The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 230 (6/13/22-6/17/22)

Episode Date: June 19, 2022

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I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese

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That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the

making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza.

Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests here. Dare I say, a wild card. A very funny writer, graphic designer, illustrator. One of the funniest standout comedians doing it. His album 16 Bits is available wherever fine comedy albums can be streamed he's coming to you live from a roku background from a trapped tcl roku tv please welcome the brilliant the

talented steven wilbur welcome to the berry patch a production of iHeartRadio. We're the only all-berry podcast within the Daily Zeit, guys. So we're talking about that finale. Turn up the faders and turn up the haters. We are cracking into it. I thought you were talking about berries, the fruit. I thought you were in honor of National Strawberry Shortcake Day. Do you think that they lined that up because Strawberry Shortcake Day? You're going to need one after watching that finale.

And then you're going to be so full of sweat and shame from eating copious amounts of strawberry shortcake. You're going to need a bath. I heard. I'm one episode behind i cut the penultimate episode on saturday i'll turn off right now get out of here is there a class action lawsuit for people who like saw the finale and like are distressed now and i was like they what they're sending out the mailers right now the little postcards that you injured by the very finale you may be entitled to compensation the the last

finale left me the finales of this series leave me feeling very being like that was very impressive and i i just want to like rent a motel room and like smoke cigarettes and be depressed for the next week like i just it's very it's dark damn all right so i guess i'm gonna have to buckle up for that one so uh that's why i haven't even started the season yet. Oh, this season's good. I really enjoyed it so far. I really enjoyed it. That's what everybody's saying. It's like funny.

It's fun. And I was like, well, let's see. Let's see how it leaves you. Yeah. Yeah. This last one's a real knee slapper. It's a real. It's like, oh, am I watching reruns of F Troop or something?

This is great. The funniest show I could think of yeah you are can you describe your your background a little bit what you've done there because it does it does evoke oh it's a gentrified roku city they've got an AMC, Dave and Buster's H&M. It's sad. Combination, Target, H&M. You'd love to see those.

I do. You still also kept it real standard. And there's also an improv. They're big into stand-up. It's got to have a place to work. It's really diluted. Yeah. There's got to have a place to work. Yeah, but it's really diluted. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of weird stuff being said.

Not the kind of stuff you want to be associated with, really. It's just a revenue machine. It's not the art. It's not comedy, man. Ashley, what is something from your search history that reveals a little bit about something about who you are? The most recent thing was Joan Rivers divorce late night bad. OK, because the latest. The bad at the end is very.

I love Joan Rivers is like a female comic. I don't know too much about her life but the latest season of hacks ended and everyone was like oh it's so much about joan rivers's life blah blah so i wanted to see like oh is it as bad and messy as on the show and it turns out it's way worse it's like way way worse than on the show like the show is so nice and tame compared to what joan rivers had to go through which is that she did not go through a divorce. Her husband just straight up killed himself. Oh, wow.

Yeah. And then left three videos that were like, Joan, here's why I did this. No. Yeah. Whoa. Like, it was straight up like, Joan, my daughter, here are the videos. Like, yeah, really intense. Wow.

And they were like, let's make a show about that. Yeah. really intense. Wow. And they were like, let's make a show about that. Yeah. All right. So they pulled from a lot of different characters to make Debra Vance, but everyone thinks it's mostly Joan. And so this was like breaking down like why it isn't Joan, because everyone's like, well, you know, she's not as dark. Like she's more of a Lucille Ball type. Right, right, right. I love when you have to make, like,

make an exception for the fictional character. Like, hey, don't worry. It's not that bad for this fictional character. Because the real one's way worse. What the fuck, dog? Now, before you judge fictional character Debra Vance. Exactly, exactly. Right, right, right.

Oh, man, my favorite thing about Debra Vance is she got that soda machine in her kitchen. Oh, yeah. She's an icon. That's, like, of favorite thing about Debra Vance, though, she got that soda machine in her kitchen. Oh, yeah. She's an icon. That's like, of all the shit in that show that there is to like, aside from the performances and the writing. I'm like, man, that fucking, she got a soda found in her fucking kitchen. In her kitchen, in her tour bus. She has a Christmas room.

That's when I was like, I want to be her. I would have a Christmas room. You would? Yeah. I love Christmas decorations. I hate having my Christmas decorations in boxes, having to pull them out. Just let me go into a room, pull it all out, get my stuff. Oh, yeah.

I have Christmas lights up in my window that I rationalize that they're for mood. But really, they're like icicle lights on my window that I just like to have. When I was a college student, I also believed Christmas lights were wonderful decor. Who doesn't? I mean, it's like the cheapest thing. Wait, hold on. How many feet for five bucks? Oh, shit.

Tell me. I can do it on my desk and the floor. You know how many Grey Goose bottles I can light up when I dangle the fucking lights inside? Oh, shit. Make it real nice for the dates. For real, so they know. Oh, you had money? I guess.

You bought these expensive bottles. You had at least $8.99 to spend at Target. Yeah. If I add up, okay, so that bottle's like $32. $64. That adds up. Okay, that's cool. You at one point had $64. It adds up. Okay, that's cool. You at one point had $100.

But you have one towel. Alright. And a half pillow. A half pillow? Half pillow, no pillowcase. What's a half pillow? One you get from an airplane? Yeah, exactly. It's the one that's shaped like your alma mater's

mascot, and it just says your high school graduation yeah like when you got off etsy you're like this is your pillow what is something you think is overrated overrated uh always again forgetting to think of anything before doing this podcast what's overrated red pandas go with red no not overrated god i'm just like so too excited about everything right now i'm just like everything's anything is good it's perfect i have such a high tolerance for bullshit right now because i'm like oh we can go back outside you know some things i'd normally be like the city walk garage i'm like no it's paradise i want to pay 30 dollars to park in a parking lot thank you rick i just i don't want to repeat myself i feel like i always say the same things i feel like i want to say breakfast tacos but maybe i've said that before

so i don't want to just be repeating. They need it. I'm going to say overrated Saturday, underrated Thursday. What? This is a young person's take. Oh, yeah. It's a young

person's take. Yeah. A couple of years. Wait, so what's that wait sorry now like explain to me i mean i i understood saturday okay if i was in college but go on well not just college first of all we're all in college again now that we can go out again after covid time is meaningless we're all podcasters here we don't have a traditional work schedule i just think saturday there's too much pressure to have fun to like make that good focal point of your week and be like that's the night i'm gonna have fun

right and thursday is like if you have fun it's like a bonus right yeah yeah okay so like when you're you're saying like do you realize how much fun you're having Thursday in the moment? Or like when you get home and you're like, damn, I did that Thursday. Yes. Yeah. I think it's just like, it's like a fun, you know, if you go out on Thursday and you have fun, you're like, oh, that I didn't expect to have such a good Thursday. But if you have a, if nothing's going on on Saturday, you're like, man, this is so depressing. It's Saturday. If nothing's going on on Thursday, it's like, well, it's Thursday. Right. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, I get that. I was like, I felt the same. I went to see Jurassic Park last Thursday and I was like going out to a movie on Thursday. I was like, this is the fun living, baby. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You're in the moment. But I didn't realize till I got home or like afterwards. I was like, that was sick. That was dope. But I just did right there going out to a Or afterwards, I was like, that was sick. That was dope. What I just did right there going up to a movie on a Thursday.

Right? Just like, who can stop you? No. It's just, I don't know. It's cool. Everything sucks. But honestly, it's cool we don't live in the 50s and have to put on a suit and tie and go to a job every day, right? I was going to take your overrated, underrated, and extend it.

I think weekends are overrated. We didn't used to have them in the 1800s. Thank you. Let's just work all the time. Okay. Okay. Anti-union Jack over here. That's my nickname.

Yeah, he's like, he bought a vintage Pinkerton uniform. He's going to be wearing later to the Grove. Oh, man. No, I mean, I do think there's a lot of bad things about the work all the time, no boundaries, every day is a work day because of email, you know, thing. But I also think the flip side is that every day is also a weekend. Every day is a day off if you want it to be. Yeah.

Mindset. It's the opposite of the grind set. Right, exactly. You bend the spoon with your mind by making every day the weekend. It's the fine set. Yeah, maybe it is a collegiate mindset, but you know what?

That's how I'm feeling right now. That's great. We're all in college again. We're like super seniors. I want to get to where you are. I feel like we're super seniors in LA. Right, right. The super seniors of LA.

I'm going to go places and I'm like, oh yeah. That's what we'll name our secret club. Super seniors of LA. Which just sounds like a bunch of people who meet to walk at the mall. Yeah, exactly. Sounds like a retirement community. You know what? Again, the line between the retiree lifestyle and the collegiate go out every night lifestyle, pretty thin.

Yeah, fine. Finally. What is something that you think is underrated mohanad something is underrated that's a that's a hard one man i just i just feel like i'm in the because of social media i look at everything as overrated that yeah that i have i think my my brain is poisoned right now that i do not enjoy the small things in life. But I'd say something underrated. It's not really special. It's very basic.

But lately, I literally have been doing absolutely nothing and just laying on my couch and playing FIFA. And that feeling of happiness that gives me absolutely amazing. Everyone is like, oh, just go to the park in New York. It's the summertime.

No, it's not. No, it's not. Everyone is doing it. I get sweaty. In my apartment, I don't get sweaty. I just play this one game and get really good at it. No one gives a fuck that I'm good at it.

Except me. I love that. I'm sure your couch is comfortable. My couch is amazing. Yeah. You know, you got some sun in that room. I'm seeing some sun in that room, so you get some light. Yeah.

Yeah. It's great. Yeah. Everyone should, you know, everyone trying to make plans and go outside during the summer, like, just stay home. Put the AC on. It's perfect. Yeah.

Yeah. No, you're not going to peer pressure me into enjoying the company of others. I agree with you, man. I agree with you. Because, listen, I, for the longest time, for most of my adult life, I'm 35 now, most of my adult life, I would have guilt. Like staying in a bed past like 9 a.m. You know, like even if I wanted to to i would be laying in bed and be like i gotta get up i gotta get up and you know and then you know in our profession sometimes we do

i have to be on set sometimes at like 6 a.m or you know so like if i have a job i have to get up but if i don't have a job i would still have that guilt lately over the past like two months two three months i've been letting that guilt go and saying, if I'm still fucking sleepy and I don't have to be nowhere and it's 839, I will stay my ass in bed until I feel like I am not exhausted or tired anymore. And it's such an underrated thing to let go of. Just relaxing. We've had the worst couple of years years i think that's because of the pandemic man like the because it was like the time of the lockdown like you're just like man a lot of the stuff i thought mattered that much it does not really yeah so well that's the

you know i guess the silver lining but yeah somewhat yeah nah man taking care of yourself and video video games are underrated and i know you know that just set some people off i know some people are like what you mean underrated video games are one of the most highly rated things of all time yeah to you but there are some people there are some people who think video games are a waste of time and to those people i say to them are a waste of time and to those people i say to them it's an underrated thing to sit down because you'll be thinking you you have to strategize you feel happy when you win you get some anger you're not directing it at anybody you know what i'm saying it teaches you not to throw your controllers across the room so you learn

anger management it's a lot of shit that video games can do for you. It gives you a thick skin, especially when a 10-year-old yells at you when you play online. You're like, well, I have a thick skin now because these kids are assholes. That's Jack. Jack be yelling at people online.

That is. I usually claim that I stopped playing video games when I was, you know, I gave up at stage of N64, but, uh, I'm really,

I just really went underground and now pretend to be a 10 year old. Who's really mean to people, but you're, you're exactly right. Like the, I am definitely one of those people who has that voice in my head that like video games are a waste of time. Like don't,

you know, that's why I quit playing video games and it's i don't know now now my kids are like if they grow up if we continue to be a household without video games like that that's weird right that's like the being the family without a tv in your household now yeah like that's yeah yeah get him a switch get him a switch and you'll start playing yeah i i hear good things miles and i had a thing yesterday where we got to see each other in person which was lovely and both ubered over give give ourselves a little break and he pulled up with a switch with him to a work thing which was i loved I loved it. Love it. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break.

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oh my good man daniel uh haven't you heard this is this is the the coup is the word this was the moment where we got to see the jan 6 committee finally you know do their thing i guess the big thing to start off is right we we saw january we saw it all in real time you know we saw trump was trying to overturn the election the second it became clear basically that he had lost like pennsylvania and georgia was like well i don't know what's this like blue shift happening we're like okay we get it yeah and so we've spent the last year or so just thinking of how easily people can like breach the capitol and like assault cops and shit when they're on the side of white supremacy. And I think a lot of us are like, how can this happen? I mean,

aside from white supremacy, but like, but we have to ask how, wow, how can we do nothing? And we're at the point now, I guess, as we look at this whole sort of like arc of January 6th, where we're potentially moving into the accountability phase as the committee, you know, kicked off their primetime special on Thursday and pretty well laid out in the sense that they didn't have to do too much speculating and just basically let a bunch of receipts fly. Yes, yeah.

It wasn't like, well, what could it have been? They're like, oh, and here's this. Here's that. Yeah, it was kind of like there had to be accountability because there was so much evidence they couldn't ignore it it was just like oh come on you guys you did it right in front of the camera like please you know it's like a thousand hundred thousand cameras everywhere you go but okay so we heard from like capitol police where they described how violent the whole thing was how they were knocked unconscious and then like came to and then like had to go back out to try and hold the line. They were people. They were like slipping in blood because of the carnage.

Liz Cheney first, like, you know, was saying kind of revealing how much Donald Trump was into the idea of Mike Pence being harmed, which was I mean, we had obviously heard like from people saying this or that and the others, not necessarily speculating, but saying that this may be part of the testimony. But now to hear it out loud as this, it does kind of feel a lot freakier. You will hear that President Trump was yelling and, quote, really angry at advisers who told him he needed to be doing something more. And aware of the rioters chance to hang Mike Pence, the president responded with this sentiment, quote, maybe our supporters have the right idea. Mike Pence, quote, deserves it. So there and that was her saying this is who's on the lineup for kuchela you know what i mean she's saying this is what you're gonna hear that wasn't that that wasn't just that was

the teaser yeah that's the opener that's just like yeah yeah and you're like okay and again this isn't like no one was like surprised but it's's like, OK, yeah, this I guess come out with it. We'll see what, you know, eventually happens if they refer anybody for like actual prosecution. to like fraud or that like Dominion voting machines were being controlled by anyone other than the person casting a ballot. And then they had testimony from other Trump aides who sounded pretty shook, where they're basically talking about the fact that, yeah, you know, we know that this wasn't that he lost. We knew that. In this clip, Miller describes a call between the Trump campaign's internal data expert and President Trump a few days after the 2020 election. I was in the Oval Office, and at some point in the conversation, Matt Oskowski, who is the lead data person, was brought on. And I remember he delivered to the president pretty blunt terms that he was going to lose. And that was based, Mr. Miller, on Matt and the data team's assessment of the sort of county by county, state by state results as reported?

Correct. So, you know, being like, yeah, I was there, and when we pulled up, it was like, hey, yeah, yeah. That's a big L. Yeah. Yeah, it's a nagging, yeah. Just so you know, sir. And then we even got an Ivanka appearance, a brief Ivanka appearance, where, you know, sir. And then we even got an Ivanka appearance, a brief Ivanka appearance where, you know, a lot of people are like, oh, I wonder if she's going to actually, you know, say that she, you know, believes, you know, what the fuck actually went down that day.

And here's this one, which I'm sure Donald Trump loved to hear. Donald Trump loved to hear. This is the president's daughter commenting on Bill Barr's statement that the department found no fraud sufficient to overturn the election. How did that affect your perspective about the election when Attorney General Barr made that statement? It affected my perspective. I respect Attorney General Barr. So I accepted what he said was saying so you know just things that we all suspected but now we get to hear them out loud

and it's very hard to spin that although many people definitely tried but it's like wow you can hear in every all these people's voices like they know they were trying to do something illegal you know it's clear that they weren't all under some like the legitimate belief that they were stopping the steal yeah i just i my favorite part that i loved how you could see through trump's kids how afraid they are to talk to him directly so scared like all the words like oh my god someone should really talk to daddy and if you could tell him uh not to do this he doesn't listen like they were also he doesn't listen to us like i almost feel like he might not recognize Don Jr. If he walked in the room, like, probably. I'm just curious how, you know, people have seen like the kind of like power, quote unquote,

that like the president could like wield per se. But I'm just so curious who really didn't have like, whose job was it to go and deliver this information and was so scared about it? That really does surprise me it's like how how scary quote-unquote can a single person be even despite regardless of their job that you're just like yeah we're just gonna go along with what will ultimately lead to us you know inciting a riot like putting us on a grand jury trial like just because we didn't want to be like hey yeah it's not looking good i think you know it's it's half they have like plausible deniability like

that day like even though i was along for the ride i knew it was a bad idea but i think they equally had the same desire to maintain power by any means possible and they they honestly like i said back then they were on that like they had the star from mario they thought they were they could get away with anything because they were on gassed up on that white supremacy like like yeah what's gonna fucking stop us like we're rolling with the president well we got the president we got rudy giuliani like it yeah it honestly that feels like that's, you know, that's clearly what it was. And I think to go against it. Right. Because we're speaking of cults. You start speaking out, then you'll just get purged like many other people have over the years or like people who claim to be like a person of, you know, good conscience.

But I do want to just mention also, because like we're saying here that they knew what was going on. This is Liz Cheney talking about the amount of Republicans in Congress who were also looking for fucking pardons right after the 6th. Representative Perry contacted the White House in the weeks after January 6th to seek a presidential pardon. Multiple other Republican congressmen also sought presidential pardons for their roles in attempting to overturn the 2020 election. So,

you know, that's what I'm curious about. If we know that that's bad, and then I'm sure they have on wax people being like, hey, you think I can get one of those parties? What's up with those parties?

Yeah. Something up here. I feel like I might be in trouble, you know, just cause a little light treason. Cool treason. Cool insurrection. Yeah.

Little pardon. Just a little pardon. Just a little pardoning. It, it, this is just, it's just a very, very,

I think it's just like gross when you just kind of hear about how out in the open it is and that's what this like these hearings are going to just show like just how overt how little finesse was involved because these people really just felt that there was nothing that could stop them from overturning an election which i think is really real scary fucking and also i think also reveals that all of their strategy is around merely like the math of the electoral college because if we just had straight up simple majority this wouldn't have even been a fucking question but we have this like archaic thing of the electoral college to be like i don't know man you could lose the popular vote and still fucking win so and that's you know i think that's a big issue but anyway we're gonna say now just

just kind of like a very basic question of like what what are we getting out of these hearings other than having this mostly known information be more public per se are we getting potential people you know what's the punishment here well they could they're going to refer people to the department of justice so okay so so it's it's a it's a here's all the evidence yeah and maybe something happens out of this that way so at the end and they go and here's your here is our referral to the department of justice so you can actually have a so they can look into you for real criminal shit. Yeah.

What irks me? I mean, I shouldn't say irks, but like, you know, go ahead. You can use strong language like that. I will be irks. What irks me about this is that ultimately we are leading to basically a proposition of evidence to a group of people that will then maybe exact justice. to a group of people that will then maybe exact justice. But that time in between these two things in between now when that justice is exacted, like, what does the narrative shift to at that point, that, you know, again, in this very bury your head in the sand strategy by the GOP, we enter a time in which in theory, nothing is going to happen. While cases are put together,

while evidence is like put together, while lawyers are hired to like make the actual trials happen we enter another time period of narrative shifting of hey look at that they had these hearings and guess what well nothing happened i think the difference being is the first the first versions we saw like impeachment and things like that are political processes and the department of justice actually has their, they, they're also investigating January 6th on their own, like in a criminal, like in the context of a criminal investigation.

Sure. So it's like concurrent things happening. And who knows the DOJ might arrive at the same conclusions as well. But this is also just to show like that the work of really the committee is to say, this is our analysis of what occurred because we need to a figure out how to make sure this never happens again. It's sort of what their stated goal is and to recommend how to prevent that. You're barring probably just saying that we need to abolish the Electoral College.

But, you know, that might be step one. Sure. And I think like we are going to see a beneficial media shift. I think there are a lot of moderate Democrats and just moderate people in this country who do not believe that a terrorist attack or violence or anything when the when it's a white people, when it's the face of whiteness can actually be a serious threat. I think there are people who don't realize how bad the coup actually was and now they're seeing this footage they're seeing this evidence and it's like oh wow yeah you you can't deny this like people who knew this was bad or like it was bad but really look at how bad it was yeah like that was like antifa and you're like no that's your go yeah that was you guys that was yeah like and you can hear them like being like like they played this 10 minute video that was put together uh by this documentarian

and director what's his name quested i just want to give his full name shout out to the nick quested like who was like with the proud boys and had like some documentary footage with them that's like really incriminating also and was like they're like on the cap at the capitol with the proud boys documenting shit side note he was also a music video director like dmx's stop being greedy music video from 1998 uh big timers get youron video. Get your motherfucking roll-on. Yes, he directed that video. He also directed the G-Depth special delivery video. Oh, my God. How do you go from that to hanging? I'm going to do a thing with the Proud Boys.

Proud Boys documentarian. Dude, and you're like, man, I was the guy making revolutionary videos of kids doing the Harlem Shake. Come on now. Come on now. And Trick Daddy, I'm a thug. Baby, because I'm a thug. That guy, I bet he wasn't shook. He was like, man, I've seen so much

shit at this point. He's like, I did a DMX video. Wow. January 6th, nothing. This is nothing to me. not nearly as many guns so during the hearing they played this 10 minute video that's fucking intense you know like i i remember at the time i was really interested in in what like looking at all ingesting all kinds of fuckery videos from january 6 and then i was like uh kind of it's kind of fucking grim and then they really put out this 10 minute video show like like the timeline of President Trump, like getting the people in a frenzy. Also then talking about the moment that Mike Pence doesn't

do the thing that he's supposed to do, which is to like throw into question and nullify like the votes to send it back to the state's shit and how Trump tweeted and how that like got through the crowd and like, you know, set off all the hang Mike Pence things and you can like it's really laid out like chronologically and it just a brief like 10 minute thing just to kind of what your whistle and this video was fuck like alarming a ton of body cam footage from police officers

where you're seeing like these MAGA people just like trying to just fucking kill them and beat the shit out of them and so while all this was happening right Fox News they told people like we're not gonna fucking talk about this shit don't worry about like it's nothing here's a immigrant caravan you need to worry about which is quite literally what they did and so what they did was they just had tucker carlson he went his he did his whole hour commercial free like we're talking hip-hop

radio like they're like we're going commercial free for 60 minutes only on q109 like yeah he was like i don't even want the sponsor money like i will take the l on that throw it all out exactly that's and then like hannity also went a straight hour nothing you know he did fucking he just had nothing nothing to say except for people to come on and say all kinds of stuff and throughout that all the things you heard like the kinds of uh the thematic sort of bullshit that they were spinning during the hour was it's whole this whole thing's a flop you don't need to watch it because like don't even bother you know the democrats are now they're trying to change the definition of like rioting was like another segment they had

trying to debate like you know but what about 2020 when people were not assaulting the police like that uh if any police were beating the shit out of those people and if anything you're like wait how come the police beat the shit out of those people? Okay. Anyway. And then there were other things like Liz Cheney is helping Democrats go after conservatives. Like she's a traitor. And no. And another one was like, you know, actually no cops even died that day. Actually. It's like they took some of them took their own lives.

They were so distressed. Like, and don't, aren't they supposed to care about the cops? Don't they like the cops? That's the whole. Aren't they at least like the blue lives matter but now they're like not anymore it shows honestly how fucked like they know how bad it is and how it looks that all they can do is try and be like whatever you do don't look at the documented evidence of what happened. Just look at that at all, because they can't say it's fake. Like that, they can't. That hasn't really been a thing.

I mean, you can't say like, oh, it's Antifa with masks on. No, no. Like these people, like they've been identified. They've confessed. They've all said they follow Trump and he asked them to be there. Like that shit is you can't really. They found themselves in a really hard position there. So I want to show this one moment. Right.

So when they were showing this 10 minute video, that's like super compelling, just like all this other shit from from January 6th. They Fox had, you know, they were playing it live as if they were doing like the like real sincere coverage, quote unquote. But what they did was they just took a feed of the main chamber where the hearing was happening. And the one that's like trained on the audience, not on the people presenting anything. So you don't see any of those people. You just see the people in the crowd looking towards the camera. It's a super wide shot. And during this time, they're playing this 10-minute video that shows all the darkest stuff.

And someone on Twitter, at Manny Fidel, did a side-by-side showing that in real time what any normal person would have been watching like from the January 6th hearing and what was going on in Fox. And they kind of alternate between the two. So this is the footage that would have been on cnn or any other network basically for her entire career and profiting off of it but also she has to bring up this whole oh

it must be a big trump thing no it's not a trump thing there is the fact of the matter the only reason that people were there so that's kind of gives you an idea of the two realities that Fox was just so, I mean, like you're saying, Ashley, they're so invested in keeping these people in the dark that they're leaving money on the table. Yeah.

That's so dark. Like how? Come on. Yeah. It's really wild. And like, as damning as that is to see, it still just strikes me as the kind of evidence that is not going to make it past our own, you know.

Sidelines, it's going to stay on this side that's like only seeing that content being like, can you believe they're being brainwashed like this? And it's like they're never going to see that. Yeah, they're never going to see that. I think the issue here is like that even like with probably how Democrats think, well, we got to convince these people. It's like if they did that shit then just go handle it yeah like what you don't need to be like well

we gotta make sure the sentiment is there to enforce the law yeah and I'm not like trying to be like we got we need laws and shit but like this kind of shit is what leads to more suffering for marginalized people when you have this group of people who are like fucking doing everything in their power to fully take over. And the stakes there are so high.

Like, why? Why is this like a polling thing? Yeah. And I think with the Democrats, I don't even know that they're fully convinced that MAGA and these people are people that they need to end. Like, I think they see them as a formidable opponent because they know that, or they believe they can beat them. They're like,

we may as well keep like encouraging these like fringe weirdos. Cause Oh, they're easier for us to beat, except they don't realize that they're not. And they're just making these people seem more legitimate. Truly. Yeah. It's, it's a very very it's a double-edged sword and that's why i think watching all this you're like i know how fucking bad it was you know what i mean i know that they were all it's a coordinated effort

from people like oath keepers proud boys uh people at different in different states lawyers all kinds of people were trying to help do this shit i get that i don't need like and most people don't need you don't need to explain to the the maga crew why like well and this is why they're in trouble okay okay this is why they're in time out like what the again but i think because there's so much capitulation to the right it's just like just inbuilt into our country because it basically is part of the country so it's barring a massive identity shift i think this will continue anyway i just want to also talk about donald trump because after that ivanka stuff and bill barr and all these people just being like no i was like bill barr was like it's bullshit as he said the idea that there was fraud oh shit he

trump had a fucking meltdown on Klan Twitter. I'm sorry, Truth Social or whatever they call it. And he started off by attacking Ivanka's credibility. You know he's mad if he's attacking Ivanka? This is the way he truthed. He said, quote, Ivanka Trump was not involved in looking at or studying election results. Ivanka Trump was not involved in looking at or studying election results. She had long since checked out and was, in my opinion, only trying to be respectful to Bill Barr and his position as Attorney General.

He sucked. That's in parentheses. He called her by her full Christian name. Like, is that what he used to do when she wasn't doing the dishes? Ivanka Trump didn't hear. And that is his favorite. We all know that much. And he's just like, no, she was checked out. She was a bum.

Could you imagine if Donald Jr. has a similar moment and he just goes, that nasty looking freak boy. Ain't nobody like him. Like not even using his name. We wouldn't even let him in the White House. Yeah. That's your name. That's your fucking junior.

That's your kid. But Ivanka Trump is confused and she was only trying to respect the office. But then the thing about the Pence stuff where Liz Cheney was saying that he was like, yeah, maybe he deserves to die or whatever. He said, quote, I never in all caps. Never. Never said or even thought of saying wow hang mike pence this is either a made-up story by somebody looking to become a star or fake news the so-called rush on the capital was not caused by me it was caused by a rigged and stolen election okay he said they're clout chasing yeah i love that yeah you know how you become famous when you

say that the president wanted to hang his vice p vice president you know that that like yeah that's the top of the charts uh that's what gets you all the twitter followers uh yeah we get it paris and sex tape calling out yeah exactly via whistleblower for an attempted coup. Yeah, boom. Sick spawn con after, we all know. And an E-series. We get it. We see this a hundred times. Like, exactly. Okay.

Get in line, buddy. It's like more predictable than going on The Bachelor. We get it. We know you're a whistleblower for a coup. I wish people were famous for something these days. You know what I mean? I just want my mattress. You know what I mean? Just a mattress. That's all I want.

Rather than just clout chasing on our good 45th president's name. Like, really? So, yes. That's kind of like the stakes right now. If you go on Fox News today or this morning, you'll see they're saying everything but January 6th. They're talking so much about Britney Spears' wedding right now. It's ridiculous. Their Fox News is desperately looking for anything

else they can cover. Anything else. They'll be like, oh, there's a sale at Kohl's, actually. Like, what? Did they even buy ads? They're like, no, I'm just looking through some emails I got in my promotions folder. Literally, the headline right now is like joe biden went on a late night show and laughed gas is six dollars

what's he laughing about what is that really what it is yeah it's literally like joe biden's desperate he's laughing on late night the other one jesse waters was like joe biden sent that man to brett kavanaugh's house i think and it's like wow that it's wild so this is the state of america like we said coachella night two probably more receipts will be raining down from the sky hopefully so tune in or don't just listen to us moan about it again let's get all the good stuff there. Yeah, exactly. All right. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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Coachella primetime event. Was it really postponed due to that dude not being able to make it? No, no, no. Technical difficulties. They said technical difficulties. What? Yeah. They said they're having.

What the fuck does that mean? Really? I have no fucking idea. I mean, they're fucking 90 years old, dude. Like somebody probably misplaced a thumb drive. I'm like, where's that stick with the videos on it? You know, like, fuck, we're fucked. They're the ones that are going to fucking.

Oh, fuck. But yeah, was postponed due to technical difficulties. And if you read the fine print on the poster for Coachella, you knew that it was subject to things like that. But they did, I think, as like a consolation prize, release some footage of Representative Loudermilk from the state of Georgia. So I don't know if you remember right after January 6th, there was a member of Congress who was a former military that recalled another member of Congress giving tours, but to them looked suspicious because it looked more like recon than it did. Hey, and this is where I eat lunch.

It was more like, yeah, man, like, look over there, take a picture of this entrance to this tunnel. And that sort of raised some alarm bells. So I believe let me just make sure it was. Yeah, it was Representative Mickey Sherrill and louder milk filed an ethics complaint against this person, against Representative Sherrill, because of this allegation. In 2021, around that time, completely denied giving any fucking tours at all. Never gave a tour ever to anybody around then. The fuck are you talking about?

Then this spring, he kind of revealed a little more. He's like, OK, fine. I may have given a tour to like a family with like some small babies or something, but that was it. Like, there's really nothing to see. And then he even went on to Laura Ingram's racist shriek show to double down on the fact that he did absolutely nothing. And this is all just a bunch of hokum. And I just want to play you this because things begin to change for Mr. Loudermilk. Then they say, oh, it was at the Capitol complex.

There were hundreds of people in the Capitol complex, the House office buildings. In fact, it was the Democrat leadership ordered the gift shop open on the 5th because there were so many visitors there. So Mickey Sherrill's accusation that there were no tours allowed. Well, there are no tours allowed at the Capitol, but there were plenty of people at the house office buildings because it was just another day. And now when it comes out and no mistake about it, the Capitol police were clear that they are trained in looking for suspicious activity. And the group I had in the house office buildings had did nothing suspicious. I mean, it was a total lie. I'm just going to say, Congressman, it was a lie.

It was a smear. They did the same thing to Donald Trump. OK, cut to Wednesday when the January 6th. The headline there on the Cairo was they smeared good men. Is that is that a play on words that i'm not understanding they like a few good men no there's that what they were they smeared good men i feel they're they're completely out of ideas over there because they're like man we're gonna have to fucking look at video of your ass giving a tour in a second but oh they're just smearing you i can't believe it and so cut to now this fucking footage coming out as the January 6th committee describes it.

Quote, surveillance footage shows a tour of approximately 10 individuals led by you to areas in the Rayburn, Longworth and Cannon House office buildings, as well as the entrances to tunnels leading to the U.S. Capitol. Individuals on the tour photographed and recorded areas of the complex not typically of interest to tourists, including hallways, staircases, and security checkpoints. So, now, he's out here being like, alright, so what? But they were there for the gift shop. It had nothing to do with any January 6th stuff, just because that guy was wearing a MAGA

hat, and then you also found out that one of the people on the tour was live streaming shit or posting shit to Facebook on the 6th, talking about, we coming for you, Nadler, Pelosi. And those coincide with pictures they took in the Capitol. So it's very it's like one of those things, too, like we're saying, like that politics isn't like fucking real anymore because this guy is just he's been lying the whole time. He's on another show that's pretending to a certain group of the country that it's news and being like it's all fake it's all nonsense and i even have

this letter from the capitol police that says they didn't see anything suspicious which to me i think is actually the thing that sticks out the most at this point because he's like they're trained into identifying things that are suspicious i was like it looked like some of them were taking selfies with was that suspicious to people who broke into their job right so i'm really curious now you know they say the next day we'll focus on trump and pence but i'm like the more and more we we look at it and as many of us remember watching the events on the six being like yeah when's the day about the Capitol Police? Right.

Like, do you have, is that another day, too, where you'll talk about anything that was determined to be untoward or maybe aiding and abetting what was happening? Because that, it's weird that this letter helps to, quote unquote, vindicate this guy who was giving a Capitol tour. Now, I don't know if it's because their own incompetence and they have to say that just to be like yeah we saw that and it was it was fine okay maybe we completely fucked that up but it's the same thing i don't know it reminds me of how like the police in texas too are like we can't show you guys body cam footage or else they're gonna know our secrets yeah the i mean this is being programmed. The whole thing is being programmed by like an ABC News present former ABC News president who made is um one to like the thing that really got people was like kimberly guilfoyle getting paid too much for her speech which is like women

making money like they know they know americans don't don't like that so like i feel like they're doing all of this with like targeting like things and then they've decided to ignore the role of the police in this and just be like, well, Americans love police. And in fact, we will put one woman who was run over by the rioters out front and center and make that a heroic thing. Because I think those are two assumptions they've gone on with. They're just trying to program this as much as possible like a michael bay movie i i have a couple of questions for you guys if that's is that cool yeah yeah so so one i'm curious what you think of the fact that they're

not going to do any criminal anything and then two i'm just so what's your take on on the event itself? Like, like, so just just to put my cards on the table. And this might be wrong, but I'm always skeptical about sort of heating up political rhetoric in the society. And as someone who studied, who studied coup attempts and things like that, in the past. I mean, obviously, I think what happened was very disturbing, and particularly if you were a congresswoman in the building on the Democratic side. I mean, it could have been very dangerous and incredibly scary. But I've always been skeptical about calling it a coup attempt because it just seems like it didn't have any of the features of what a coup attempt would need to succeed.

And it seems like this might be—and I'd love to hear if you think that I'm wrong, it seems like this might actually like channel energies in a direction that is not particularly helpful for achieving left-wing transformation. It's basically spectacle, not only spectacle, they're not even going to do criminal charges. So I don't know what, so just to lay my cards on the table, I guess I'm a skeptic in that regard. I was just wondering what you guys what you guys think. Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely skeptic. I'm skeptical of any time the American government is in charge of tackling extremism of any kind. So from that aspect, I'm like, this seems like a way to just basically try and push public sentiment in one direction or another.

I mean, obviously, if anything, you know, they're going to wreck up. They can recommend things to the DOJ. But the DOJ has their own investigation happening where if anything's going to happen, it's probably out of that investigation rather than this like show and tell of like, remember how bad it was when like they were there? I think with like the coup, I like I think even with naming a cuchella, it's very tongue-in-cheek, right? And I think for Americans, we had never seen anything quite so brazen on TV like that, that it just like, people were like, what the fuck was that? And I think because probably our vernacular, thexicon that we use to in talking about politics is so all over the place that we're not even using the words that we even know to mean anything

because we've got like technical sense yeah like a democracy even we're just like well if we really want to pick that apart but i think for me you know the as i saw it was pretty much the audacity of powerful white people being able to say, yeah, there's a way we can just kind of keep, just do as we please. And I think that was what, that's how, that's what I saw. I was like, wow, they, they're the fucking law doesn't exist to these people at all. Because like you're saying it was, it was the sloppiest attempt at overthrowing an election when like drunk Rudy Giuliani is running point. So in that way, we were saved by their ineptitude and they're just like like weird, magical thinking. But, yeah, I mean, I guess that is that isn't a dimension I had really thought about of like what the like rhetorically what that would do because yeah it i do get the

sense or it's very clear that you know conservatives or people on the right want to just as easily categorize any kind of action from protesters fighting against capitalism as like an insert like using all of these other words to kind of just like nullify the the importance or like what people are fighting for, for sure. Yeah. Or like the emergence of new domestic terrorism laws. Oh, yeah, absolutely. That'll be used against the left more 90 percent of the time, you know. So, yeah, it's just an interesting moment because it was obviously so dramatic that it's of course, it's going to be a central thing. But I just am worried about sort of the channeling of energies

into something that's pure spectacle when we should be focusing on, especially now that this is a criminal thing. And I don't think the DOJ is going to do anything because no one wants to start that precedent. I mean, when Biden, when Biden lose, when the Dems lose in the midterms, he's going to be impeached three times. That's the new norm. The new norm is now the president's going to be impeached. So I don't think that the DOJ is going to prosecute because none of them want to go to jail. Let me, that's why they never prosecuted Bush, anyone in the Bush administration for violating not only international, but domestic laws. So I think it's a, it's a very interesting moment and it's good to be, you know, to be able

to talk about it in that sense. Yeah. And I think, I think it's also important for people to like, see how disgusting it is to like how you're saying like we saw some fucking terrible shit and nothing is going to be fixed and i think getting people familiar with that pattern is also pretty important because you will see hey are you like trying to protect a like an unhoused community or pushing backs against police violence they'll fucking shoot you in the eye. Right. But if you're there saying MAGA and fucking America first, you're getting selfies. Right. You know, and I think that and I mean, that is that much is clear, I think, to most of

our listeners. But yeah, there are there are many other dimensions to it that as we I think because like you're saying, we have most people are experiencing a reality where there's no ability to affect change then we have these weird moments where people want to put all their eggs in the basket where it's like mother time exactly russia gate you know yeah yeah yeah got him the myth of fucking steel dossier i do feel myself like pulled in two directions because I do worry about fascism, fascism in this country and like a belief that like it can get much worse because it i said there are two paths for america to go forward i don't think that like and it sounds crazy and probably might be a little bit like extreme but it really feels like the energy has just gone from the like neoliberal like let wall street lead type kind of ideal that was considered mainstream in america for so long And now like you could go left,

like democratic socialist, or you could go in the direction of fascism and the like America, like I've been using this metaphor of like having like America having an immune system and like America being absolutely allergic to anything that is like slightly socialist and being very welcoming of things that are fascist and like i i just i feel like so seeing these things like i i see seeing like what happened on january 6th like it's still like i i think it's serious because it's an indicator of where things are headed and how much worse things can get in this country.

Like, I think that's where the seriousness and like my attention to it is coming from. Not necessarily that like they almost they were like right there and could have overthrown it. overthrown it but just like that this this seems to be what the country is more comfortable with than any sort of even like soft socialism absolutely in this country that's fair absolutely yeah yeah no i mean it's it's all very it all comes together and we just look and we're like wow because also too you think about all these people now these maga q anon people who are sending into positions of like secretary of states or being able to now have like their hands on the votes and stuff. You're like, oh, my God. Like, it's wild.

They're really like they're really going for it. And yeah, it's odd to see just a lack of urgency about being like that's on a very basic level. Not good to have people who are outwardly being like i don't believe reality and i will determine who you know what votes mean or i'll have a lot of influence potentially in an electoral decision and those things yeah they all come together but i think with the reason why america i think is just more open to power just like when you put two things in front of like the American consciousness, it's like, what's the one that's more aggressive and dominates the week? Yeah, yeah.

That's kind of more our vibe since the beginning. And so anything that's like about empathy or being like, no, like we need to we need to take care of each other. Like, what the fuck is that? I never heard of that. take care of each other. Like, what the fuck is that? I never heard of that. I also think an important thing to think about is like what looks more fun, because I think generally there's like more despair in American society. Like people just feel totally disconnected from power. They feel totally not in charge of their lives. And I think the big appeal of someone like Trump is that he channeled all of those in a direction that seemed like almost jester-like, you know, like that seemed more fun. And I do think that we on the left need to embrace

that element of fun, not in obviously a horrible, racist, disgusting way like someone like Donald Trump or Ted Cruz or someone. Well, Ted Cruz is not fun. He just can't fake it. But I do think like that's an important element of politics that we never talk about. It has to be like exciting when you go to a protest and you chant it like feels good. It feels fun. It feels good to be part of something. And I think that we've sort of ceded that territory. And that's not I don't think that's good for for political strategy or particularly winning over people who don't really pay attention to things. But we need to get anything done in this country. Right. So come to our leftist Coachella. It's going to be a really fun event, y'all. We're

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And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil.

I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's

Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.

Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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