The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 231 (6/20/22-6/24/22)

Episode Date: June 26, 2022

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I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just

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I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These

are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant filmmaker, writer, actor, comedian, podcaster who co-founded what the AV Club called one of the best podcast networks, Small Beans, where you can find he and a bunch of the most talented people we worked with at Cracked hosting podcasts, if you've ever heard of those. He's one of the co-hosts of One-Upsmanship, which is a new podcast on our network, an old podcast from the Small Beans days, but it's a great podcast that everybody needs to go check out immediately. EP'd by DJ Danil, if you need any extra reason to check it out.

He is the brilliant, the talented, the kind, Michael Swaim! Oh, brought the most important epithet last. The kind Michael Swaim, a.k.a. quick Michael Swaim. They're right outside our yard. Yes, Michael Swaim. Go call the Roman God. No, wait. We need a more permanent solution

to this, Michael. I just wanted to see if I could go low today. That's what that was about. You definitely did. That was beautiful. Hey, gang. And that was by Michael Swaim at Swaim underscore Corp. A decent follow on Twitter. Yeah, not bad. But I'll get there.

Yeah, like an okay, pretty okay follow on Twitter. Yeah, not bad. But I'll get there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like an OK. Pretty OK. Follow on Twitter. That guy. Good to see you, fellas. Good to see you, man. Thank you for that kind ass intro.

Yeah, man. Well, big fan as always. Big fan. What's new with you? All. I mean, I'm excited to be here mainly so I can talk about one upsmanship. So I'm going to immediately launch into that. I'm just thrilled to be part of iHeart, man. Back under the Jack O'Brien umbrella, you know?

Yeah, that's right. It's one step shy of stealing your identity. That's on the horizon, but we'll get there. Oh, yeah. For now, just under the same brand umbrella is good enough. Yeah. You invited me to a party called Operation Dickie Greenleaf. I didn't know exactly what that was about. That's actually part of a scam on my co-host, Adam Ganser. It's like the old switcheroo.

That's a long time ago. Got it. But yeah, me and Adam just taking one-upsmanship weekly, which has meant in my life, what am I doing right now? Playing video games at all times. Non-stop. Yeah, it used to be a monthly show. Now it's weekly, So I basically upped my

video game intake so I can stay abreast of everything. Neon White's good. Neon White's good. Neon White's good. Yeah. Yeah.

It'll be five up by this time next summer. That's what we're working toward. What, how is the video game landscape right now? How are you, how are you feeling?

Spoken like someone who knows very little about the video game landscape. How's a video game list going? That's the second time. What's your record in video games? I think we went two days where I hit them with are you winning, son?

I mean, Retro's triumphant right now. Shredder's Revenge is tearing it up. Everyone I know is talking about that. And the game I just mentioned in the babble, Neon White, super fun. It's a good time to own a Switch, which I don't usually say. So I don't know. What about your Switches? If you're listening to this today, now, the 22nd, the Shadowrun trilogy just came to consoles.

And you can get great nuggets like that over at 1UPsman Show. Or by Googling video game release dates but we don't get don't give away the whole show now it's true that's what it is it's basically just an overview of release dates yeah that's our thing no it's actually very fun and hilarious and enjoyable entertaining to listen to uh even if you don't play the video games which in some cases like there there are rare episodes where i don't know the game you're talking about but i enjoy rare episodes yeah very rare very rare very you got that switch jack how are you living as a switch owner oh man yeah you know because i remember you put on me i keep that

shit on me you sent me a gif from the Let Me Ride music video from the Chronic album. I was like, what the fuck is this? And you're like, because I'm hitting switches right now. Right. And I was like, what? Yeah, multiple. I have multiple switches. Like, okay, my man. Ah, I just

gotta keep one in every room, even though that's by design not what you're supposed to use the switch for. A switch for every room. Multiple switches. What is something from your search history? Well, the most recent thing I searched was the lyrics to Tiny Dancer, of course. But before that, it was a cheap Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. Because I keep edging over the pandemic about whether I'm going to buy a dog or not.

The latest reason I've decided not to do it is they're so expensive. You said you're edging? How does that work? I'm edging. Because I keep like, maybe I'll buy it. Are you doing something else? Okay. No, no. Okay.

Got it. I'm blowing smoke on it. Confuse me a bit okay so you're considering buying a dog i consider it yeah considering and then like i get almost to the point where i fill out the application i'm like ah i got they have to eat and walk i don't know if i want to do both of those things you know and walk yeah that's too much too much for me yeah so then the latest reason that i was like maybe if I find a very cheap dog. So I looked for a cheap

cat. Make sure you put that in the search. The initial search. Filter it out. Cheap old Cavalier King Charles. Like shitty Cavalier King Charles. B grade. I'm looking for B grades.

Used dogs. Any used dogs to purchase? I did not find one that was less than $1,000 because apparently dogs are... There's a major markup on dogs right now. That's why just rescuing. Isn't that the cheapest dog you can get? Free? So, hopefully my

landlord doesn't listen to podcasts. We are not allowed a dog in this complex which is why I need a very... I need a quiet dog i can get away with that's like the one real restriction so these were a quiet breed i was told that is uh i will say those were the dogs that we had when we had dogs and r.i.p miles r.i.p finn r.i.p emma well this is not like we we went through uh three dogs over the course of the pandemic this is over the course of my wife and i being married for you know 15 years but the one of the most stressful times of my life was being in a apartment where we were not allowed to have dogs and our dog was very quiet but like just having to smuggle him in

and out every single time right to shit and then like having to like you know every everybody you walked past you were like are they an arc are they gonna narc on me like i have to so now i have to like go outside the walls of the apartment complex and then you know put on a disguise so that they don't know it's me right and then you like start to resent your dog it's tough man yeah so good luck though good luck thank you sounds like i'm gonna have a great time i have to do the whole like oh where did i get this dog from if the landlord drives up or whatever yeah you throw it at them yeah you're like it looks like you have a dog. Yeah.

What's something you think is overrated, Kenny? Man, I'd say one thing that's overrated is having a full, thick hairline. I think we've got to stop obsessing over this. You know what I mean? Shouts. Shouts out. You know, yeah, my hair is falling out. Sure.

Have I been staring at it in the mirror for hours a day trying to convince myself that what I'm seeing is not what I'm seeing? Sure. Are all my targeted ads on Instagram for anti-hair loss products in golf clubs? Does my algorithm think I am now 65 years old? Yes, it does. Yeah, right. But the thing is, I've accepted this, bro. Yeah. I'm 6'4".

I'm a white dude i'm funny and fun what i need hair too like come on bro yeah you know what i'm saying like come on bro like i can't have all the advantages yeah i've had a good run i deserve to be bald man let me feel a little let me feel a little struggle you know what i'm saying so so you know where are we fighting back a little bit yes are know what I'm saying? Are we fighting back a little bit? Yes. Are we going to get a transplant surgery? Probably not. We're not going to see you going to Turkey

anytime soon? Listen, I'm not going to rule it out because there is a good chance I'll show up one day with a full, fresh... Full ass head of hair. Joel McHale ass looking. I'm talking Twisted Sister in their prime you know what i'm saying i'm talking 80s perm yeah i might lose my shit i don't know the doctor's like you can't do perms on this hair please can you like i don't give a

like i want you to shave d snyder's hair off his head and put it on mine like a locks of love situation do you ever look at somebodyider's hair off his head and put it on mine, like a locks of love situation. Do you ever look at somebody who got hair transplant and wonder what part of their body the hair that is now on their hairline came from? I had that question about Joel McHale, who looks great, but his hair is not the consistency of the hair of a normal hairline. It's thicker. He's got some real like

ankle hair ass yeah you know what i mean cool hair head ass ankle hair head ass i mean they usually take it from the back of your head yeah because that's like the strongest people just have like different like texture hair back there and that's what happens you never know yeah all i'm saying is if you go if you if you do it you got to know where your your male pattern baldness is going because you don't want to end up like wayne rooney or lebron james two people who were pioneers in their sports being like yo man i gotta get in front of this shit only to realize they're like damn everything behind the transplant's going to? Right, it keeps going, it keeps going.

They were pulling from the wrong, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so in a way, just like I said, for me, like growing up, because I think you inherit that gene from like your mother's side. All the men on my mom's side are bald. So I was like, this shit's a wrap. So I was doing those long looks in the reflection around 23 and like fuck what's going on although what's fun though is sometimes you take a picture where you look like your hairline's back and you're like oh look at this shit i got a good angle

yeah i was in a photo booth for a wedding and there was one i thought my shit was like painted on i look like jalen rose and. And it was just a very charitable shadow. So I appreciate those moments. It was a shadow? Like it was just like a banner that like caught your head at the right angle? I was like, y'all, it looks like I'm back, baby. We're back. Stop everything, bro.

Let's stop everything. You also got that nice chestnut hair, Kenny. I was going to say that's good for a balding man. Like you can just buzz it and then keep the beard and it looks good. Like if you got real dark hair and you go bald, it's like, I don't know. You look like it can be a little aggressive. Yeah, man. And it's also like with the transplant thing it's like dude i post pictures

and videos of myself constantly like people have already seen what's popping so if i come back with a transplant people are gonna know i got a transplant it's not they're not gonna be tricked they're gonna be like or you just got surgery like if i showed up with a if i showed up with a dildo in my pants you wouldn't be like wow kenny's got a huge dick like you would be like something's going on over there he's got something fake in there you know what i mean oh yeah i notice immediately kenny i would notice immediately on the on the day what's going on there i don't remember kenny's penis being a bright purple and plastic and like angular it vibrates sharp. A lot of sharp angles on there. A lot of right angles. The two, like, I feel like that's a good sort of line of fame

that people sometimes reach where they're like, yeah, people are going to notice I don't give a fuck anymore. And they also reach that point with teeth. This is something Jamie Loftus, like, pays a lot of attention to that I, like, now can't unsee. But it's like when people hit a certain level of fame and just suddenly show up with new teeth in their head um it's like it always happens with athletes though it's funny because like i follow like a lot of soccer players

basketball players and there's always like that like that second contract new grill smile post or like just on my new deal you're like look at your big ass fake teeth but okay i mean you're not capping but your teeth are they are capped like no other check out my mouth all cap all cap all day that's so funny i mean yeah you ever see like jeremy piven and pcu you're like that is a balding man. You played the man who played George Costanza in Seinfeld. Right. What are you doing? You don't need all this.

That's why I'm waiting. That's why my thing is a bald dude. I'm always waiting. When science is going to bring the LASIK of hair restoration back, I don't want to fucking do a fucking surgery. I don't care enough about that but if it was like yo come in here we blast your head with this laser so you walk out with a fro stem cells they're doing it sounds like the white blood cell stem cell injections

you know your boy's been doing his research yeah see that's because and i guess somehow somehow there's more integrity in stimulating the hair that was already there than taking hair from somewhere else and putting it there you understand i don't know what my line is, but that somehow feels like. You're like, no, hey, believe in the shit you still got. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't give up on it. This is my front hair, bro. Yeah.

I've definitely heard from some older, when I was in my 20s, and older bald men who were like, you guys are lucky, man. By the time you're in your 40s they're gonna have caught like cured this shit there nobody will be bald uh like just having done some research but yeah they were they were not not happy at the end of the day the progress at the end of the day all roads to just uh self-acceptance that's like the only way radical self-acceptance that was uh michael swan living in a world where like i i mean when i was younger i got way caught up on that shit because

you know i wasn't mature or like uh secure enough and who i was to be like oh yeah i'm a dude who's losing his hair you know a lot of time you just want to be like nah man fuck that yeah so it's something else and then after when you turn that corner life begins it opens up everything opens up anything can be cured with a little swag if you take your weakness and you find a way to swag it then all of a sudden it's now a strength and people are like wow look at that bald guy like carrying himself

what about Coolio he just grew the shit out on the sides and braided that yeah and we were like fuck it yeah that's something all you gotta do is like try and comb it over so it was like yeah well he did that he tried that he did do that for a while that was the end of the road yeah and then he said fuck it let me part the sea that's a tough like person to like a tough position to be in when you're balding and you

are known for your iconic hair more than anything yeah that's like joey lawrence man whoa he had to go bald with it too you know yeah he didn't make it through unscathed what is something you think is underrated ankles are underrated man and honestly i'll give you know we got a lot of body parts we like right there's nothing like a good ankle you know and absolutely ankle is a beautiful thing you know you see that ankle point you see the little bone pop out also i will say this i've been i've been boxing lately and and then you do a lot of like balancing and things like that just to work your core and shit like that and one thing that i have never considered uh is your ankle strength your ankle strength is very important to sports, stability, and everything like that.

And I feel like that's the one thing that we don't actually work on. So if you want some stability in your life, and I'm not just talking about physical stability. I'm talking about if you want your relationships to be stable. Wow, the ankle gospel. Preach it. You want your friendships to be stable. You want your work life to be stable. You want your work life to be stable.

You want your financial situation to be stable. You can't be stable on unstable ankles. So get those ankles stable, y'all. Get those ankles stable. Steph Curry. Steph Curry. Probably the biggest moment of the past 10 years NBA history is when Steph Curry decided to get his ankles strong. He did.

He did because everybody was like, Steph is going to be his ankles strong he did um he did because everybody was like Steph is gonna be injury prone the rest of his life and now he's like the most durable uh conditioned player I've ever seen yeah for somebody who's like built like that the fact that he's not injured all the time like that was people like non-NBA fans might not know but when he came in the league it was like the first couple of years, he was hurt a lot, always ankles. People were like, well, he's, yeah, he's a liability. You could have traded pretty low for him

back in the first couple of years of his career. And then he just started doing like strengthening exercises for parts of your body that I didn't know there were strengthening exercises for. And suddenly we have our ankle king, Steph Curry. You know what? I don't know if many people know this, but in that first Warriors dynasty, my cousin was on that team, Mr. Harrison Barnes.

Wow. And I've always been about this ankle life. You know what I'm saying? This ain't random. This is ingrained in my DNA. And I hit up Harrison. I was like, hey, yo, cuz, tell that Curry kid, get them ankles right. And he did.

And he did. And the rest is history. So, you know, when everybody's putting stuff in their top ten now, which I am as well, just don't forget about me. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It all comes back to the ankles and your keys. Yeah, that's what it comes back to.

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This message is brought to you by the Ad Council. And we're back. And Coachella has continued forward. Tuesday, the January 6th committee unleashed a bunch of testimony from various elected officials or election officials in contested States. And yeah, it seems like we're just getting where they're locking it in. It's like, you know,

being like, he knows he lost. He tried to fucking get me to do some shit. I wouldn't do it. And then I got threatened. Right. And that's the same thing he wasn't coming up with new shit each time he was doing the same thing and his people were doing

the same thing each time i feel like and this is like conjecture because i didn't read the full book i read like a summary but that there was that uh author that was i think it was trump's biographer and he wrote a whole thing about Roy Cohn, the mob lawyer that basically taught Trump how to do things. And I think and I've noticed this in Trump's behavior and it would be very mafioso. I think his modus operandi the whole time has been. As long as you can manipulate the narrative, you can literally do whatever you want. And as long as you can afford really good lawyers, nothing will stick to you.

Yeah. So do whatever you want. And I think we're about to, I think that method is finally starting to, like, we're going to see. We're going to see. Is there really a lawyer so good that they can get you out of literally everything?

That's what we're about to find out. I mean, his whole life, he's just been, it's more a delay game. It's not that they, like, get him out of literally everything that's what we're about to find out i mean his whole life he's just been it's more a delay game it's not that they like get him out of it it's just they delay delay delay throw uh throw enough suits at it like that people are just like this we're like tied up we're the u.s government and we're still like we can't we can't deal with this shit we're like tied up for years if we if we want to just stick after this dude who died 20 years ago by the time they get to any of this shit. He's like a master gaslighter because he just does so much insane shit

that he gets people reacting to it, and then he flips it, and he's like, see how hysterical everyone is? They're always yelling at me. Obviously, they're crazy. They just pick apart everything I do. Look at the last two weeks, X, Y, Z. And then his followers are just like, yeah, he didn't do that. You're just saying he did it.

It's just like insane. You're just playing a video of him saying he did it. Right, right. That's cap. So now, as you find out right people like uh mr raffensperger in georgia and like the speaker and i believe it was michigan these officials they basically were like i couldn't i'm not gonna go there with that like i took an oath like that was just a little bit too far that was their response to him being like hey why don't you

give me the election why don't you just fucking break the law fool put you down no okay well don't check your facebook because people are gonna be outside your house uh screaming at you and then i mean so again these republicans basically these few like elected officials who had their hands and whether it was like the state legislature or the you know the office of elections in the state they were they were apparently just barely craven not fully craven just right just fucked up uh to the point that they could like look the other way for most stuff but not to the point where many people had to break the law and then we heard from these two women shay moss and her mother ruby freeman who they were volunteering in Fulton County in Georgia, like most people do. You want to go and work at your polling place

because you think that this is a good way for you to help your community through voting because that's been something, been dangled in front of many people's faces. And these two black women, they were at this Fulton County polling place when suddenly they found themselves on the like on the other side of a conspiracy theory cooked up by Rudy Giuliani and co. About how they were walking out of the polling place or the state polling station with suitcases of ballots. And they spoke about how how traumatic that shit was i said i was just trying to help out in my community and then the president literally is singling me and my daughter out for for fucking what and when you hear that you're like holy shit i mean that's can you imagine right even being in a situation where suddenly your fucking name any and fucking anyone listening's fucking name starts coming

out of trump's mouth and being like this is the person that stole the election and what the fuck that experience is like and when you hear it from from those from the testimony of shay moss and ruby freeman you're like oh my god like lesser people would probably cave constantly like whether it was when you know when you talk about these other officials i mean i don't mean to say that they're like yeah figures of or profiles and bravery from like these like you know republican speakers of the state legislature but in that sense you can tell how much fucking pressure comes like you just get enveloped in it and that's the environment that you're still trying to be like this is i fucking have to do what's right and then yeah you realize there there is no limit there are no uh there's clearly no boundaries when

it comes to trying to act out this shit for them well it's got to be like i can't imagine being a republican that is not down with trump right now because on the one hand in your mind you want to be like well hey listen we're always the party of law and order we're the party of this we're the party of limited government which means we shouldn't even be intervening in a lot of this stuff so you want to believe that your base is common sense somehow yeah but then you see like the josh holly like those people are winning all around you and so i like to do the right thing you want to think that your base is going to stay with you but there's a lot of evidence that suggests that they're not so what an insane situation to be in i mean on both sides right like even if you're a democrat and you said something like i don't know if i can vote for joe biden like what the fuck you're talking about it's like whoa okay but in this instance it really is

like it the levels that they're going to should really i think serve as again just repeated reminder of really how one party is fully focused on doing away with all norms and laws that would prevent them from keeping power at this point law and order only means keeping marginalized people from acting up that's what 100 is that's all that that's all that means and now they've fully just jettisoned the idea of like well that means we need to live in a law-abiding or peaceful society no no it's yeah get the fuck out the way trump trump took coded language and threw it out there is no more coded language i mean if anything you could say it's thinly veiled like it's certainly not coded yeah and it's very transparent and that's you know it's to your point

like the reason people get upset if you criticize but is because the stakes are so high like the other it's like yes both sides but also one side is so much more terrible and dangerous. And that's the thing. I'm not trying to lump everyone together, but there is clearly like all parties have a thing where there's like a mainstream view. If you fall out, that's when it starts being like, well, they're kind of like one of these fringe fucking freak people

who don't know what the fuck's going on. Which brings us to Ron Johnson, who is probably, I mean, we give this award out a lot, but he is not bright for someone who is a sitting senator. And we found out. How did he get famous in the first place? He's just like a... Where do you start?

He's had terrible takes on like anything uh let me just even just i'll just we'll do a random thing where i'll just say i'll search his name with the word abortion uh he says ron johnson tells pregnant people to suck it up and go out of state for an abortion if they want one there you go that's the that's like sort of his repeated thing is like there's no such thing as a human it's just like suck it up if you're poor i don't know yeah yeah ron ron johnson is just like such a shitty stepdad name too like that's for sure the name of the guy banging your mom and he's got that ron john ron ron's are having a real moment right now we'll get to another ron who's probably gonna be the next president a. Yeah, Ron is definitely a parrot head.

He follows Buffett on tour. He definitely has a battery-powered margarita blender that he has on him at all times. He definitely is hooked on some sort of opiate. Yeah. And then his views are disinformed by everything I just told you. 100%. So he's out here.

He's in the spotlight losing his religion uh because the the the committee comes out with a text exchange from his chief of staff and this guy chris hodgson who is like um i believe mike pence is like legislative director like his like main like policy wonk guy and there's's this back and forth where the chief of staff is saying, hey, I got this alternate slate of electors that Ron Johnson has to give to V. POTUS. And the guy's like, what are you talking about? He's like, it's these alternate electors. And Pence's staff members are like, do not give that to him. And this was on the day of January 6th. This is right before the shit's getting breached. These are the text messages being exchanged, almost being like, hey, I can give him this

thing that looks like the electors from this other state. But even though the National Archives received those things as part of the certification process, and the archives know that these are bullshit electors, these are not the ones that were actually certified. Like there was no need to have a conversation about it. But clearly Ron Johns was like, got to get this in their hands, man. Got to get V. POTUS on this. So we have them accusing the two election officials

in Fulton County of like stealing ballots and like doing some shady shit with actual ballots uh and like that's complete bullshit but then we have them on the day when the thing is being certified trying to put fake votes in like trying to put votes that were not represented above the electoral results in the hands of the vice president like they just guilty of the exact thing that they're accusing everybody else of. That is their playbook. Every time.

If a Republican accuses somebody of doing something, you would need to immediately investigate that Republican for that thing. Like anyone, anyone who's like, that guy's a pedophile. It's like, Oh, I was about to say the amount of pedophilia, like that must be happening in this country with the way that their accusations flow.

Damn. I mean, Rudy Giuliani loves to throw that one out. And we all saw him on Borat 2 fully ready to go to town with a teenage girl. So that's like, you know, what are we doing here? It's just unbelievable. Constant figures, even like in the Southern Baptist Church now, that we're finding more and more out about, but don't start telling the evangelical set about where the predators might actually be in their own churches. But again,

this is all part of the playbook. Just be like, I don't know. It's fine. Like, like I think so many people clearly were like, we're doing some wild illegal shit, but if we win,

he'll be president and nobody's going to see the inside of a jail because that's, we're all counting on this shit to work. So, well, and I think they thought he's going to be president forever. Like, I honestly think there was a thought of like, we can rig this things to where Trump just keeps being president. And then I just groom his his predecessor and we just keep going down this path. Yeah. The what the wild thing is, after this comes out, like this testimony comes out in the hearings. Many people in the press are like, what the wild thing is after this comes out like this testimony comes out in the hearings many people in the press were like what the fuck what y'all have these text messages from ron johnson's chief of staff so they caught his ass on the hill right after this shit comes out

just to try and ask him like yo fam what's up with what we just heard you were trying to put these fake electors in in pence's hands and he handles it like the most panicked goon you've ever seen trying to take a fake phone call and you can hear him get called out by the reporter know about what your chief of staff was doing with the alternate slates of abductors no you're not i can see your. I can see your phone. I can see your screen. He's still pretending to be on the phone. Why was your chief of staff doing... He's just saying, can you explain...

Your chief of staff didn't work for you, Senator? Can you explain what happened there? Why was your chief of staff even offering this to the Vice President? It's a complete non-story. We missed you a statement. Yeah, it's a non-story. He've issued statements. This is a non-story. You just said it's a non-story, guys. This is a complete non-story. Just leave me alone.

It is one of the worst attempts. I've seen some bad attempts at fake phone calls. I've done, I've performed, given really bad performances, occasionally hand-me-over-the-top performances where hand me over the top performances where i'm like overdoing it oh man uh other times where i just have the phone press there and i'm just like they won't notice they won't notice and he was doing the he was doing the underacting the very

naturalistic he had that phone so far out from his ear the the reporter was like bro i can see your lock screen what are you fucking talking about like you're not even put it straight on your face and do the thing i you know i'm on a fake call when i go like this nah for real yeah and i go i'm sorry i gotta take this i go nah and i keep saying nah on my way out of the room uh he couldn't even do that i mean listen i i don't hate the game this is what i do when i have to take a dump in new york city is i walk in a bar and i'm like is this the right bar all right i'm here i'll order his drinks and then i go use the

bathroom and i come out and i go oh a different bar my fault sorry guys and i leave so i get it it's a great tool but i mean poor ron johnson though again he was like also a big ivermectin fan like i said it's hard for me to remember everything because just think of every bad policy he capes for it harder than anyone to the point where he's like we all might be horses i don't know uh but they caught him again manu Raju caught him again around the Capitol and pressed him again, being like, OK, so then what's up? Like, who gave who gave you this shit? What is like what is the deal here? And this guy sounds like like me at 13 getting caught smoking like one of my grandma's cigarette butts or some shit.

I don't know. It flew into my mouth. Some staff intern said we got the vice president needs this or whatever. I wasn't involved. I don't know what they said. But somebody from the House delivered it to a staff member in my office, my chief of staff, called the vice president. Hey, we got this. And the vice president said, don't deliver it. We didn't. Are you curious about the identity of this person't are you curious about the identity of this person do you want to ask about it

it was an intern this is a complete non-story guys complete non-story the best listen if this were if this were a real committee they'd be asking why wasn't the capital secured

who's in charge of that security this is a total partisan witch hunt uh he got a breath he's not i was not involved in this at all you know where's this motherfucker always walking to i feel like he's trying to get his steps in on this day that he should be laying the fuck low i don't know i mean what an insane i don't like who what do you mean you don't know who gave it to what an insane... I don't, like, who... What do you mean you don't know who gave it to you? It's on your staff. You're blaming your staff.

And it's such an... Staffer gives it to my intern. My intern's like, the vice president needs this, so I call the vice president. Okay, which intern? That's how shit works. Which intern? That's easy.

Say, name the intern. Since when is it a sign of incompetence to have incompetent staff? Right. Since when is that a reflection of me as a person? What do you mean, mom? What do you mean who gave a child cigarettes to smoke? Why does that matter?

Why does that matter? I have the cigarettes. I smoked the cigarettes. What are we talking about? We're just one intern away from having the entire integrity of the U.S. electoral system overturned because apparently if an intern suggests someone does something like the fucking senator has to do has to do that thing right you know what i really can't stand about these mega people more than you know everything is they've

made people like mike pence look reasonable like mike pence is the hero of this story yeah i know and he's not doing shit no exactly but that's what he's best at yeah yeah it's like how mitt romney had a moment it's like i don't want mitt romney to have a moment stop it i mean he's i mean speaking of mike pence though like this guy really we're talking like oh i wonder what he's gonna do you know it looks like there's a lane clearing up for him if he can just you know stab his old boss in the back and he had a chance to be like yo what do you think about the president and all this like the lies or whatever and this this this hearing goes you know honestly i've never seen a president lie more than joe biden and you're like oh my god i mean he has no chance like anybody who tells you he has a chance is diluted by like you know the i think there was a time when

donors were powerful enough that they could like get like push someone into relevancy but we like that's just not the case anymore and he is so just utterly like stillborn from a charisma perspective and just from a knowing like having any agenda having any ability to do the thing he's um i i really hope that a lot of billionaires are spending a lot of money on him as a candidate because he is has no fucking shot absolutely none yeah those probably in a debate trump be like why don't you kiss my ring, Mike? He'd be like, oh, I don't think that. Well, I will, but that doesn't mean anything. And okay, so I'm going to do that now, but then we can move on to a reasonable debate.

Because I'm an American and I respect a former president. Okay. Okay, now are we done? And now can we talk about Iran? Oh, you want to put my foot in your mouth too? Okay, I'll deep throat the wingtip. What's funny about it too is Trump absolutely suns his entire, like all of his colleagues, he suns them in front of his base.

And then they try to act like these people, they respect Trump because he treats this like wrestling. He is a professional wrestler as a president. And he just comes out and delivers diss tracks. And people go crazy they're not going to respect you mike pence he had people on january 6th trying to hang you there were people trying to find you and hang you well from a gallow kenny and kenny i gotta tell you the person i've never seen anybody hang like the president uh joe biden's leaving the american people hanging so oh boy i mean i

almost changed my name to mark curry because i was going to be hanging with mr cooper uh later anyway shout out holly robinson pete real real wonderful woman real wonderful woman i mean that's true uh shout out holly robinson pete uh but yeah i mean and this is all happening in the backdrop right we're like now like fox seems to be showing a little bit more of the jane six stuff more so because i feel like they're like man if we treat it like the like album that you don't want your kids to listen to guess what they're gonna go and find a way to listen to the album even if you know you mean like it's bullshit you need to waste your time they clearly are like fuck if they're gonna look somewhere else they better just hear at least our fucked up commentary on it and you've heard some things be somewhat favorable time at times

you know you have the odd analyst being like i think he probably crossed a line there and charges may be realistic and like that's the most extreme thing you'll hear. And then they shot this person out. But while all this is going on, like the GOP is like, they're spending a lot of their energy trying to like pretend what's happening in this January 6th thing is nothing to look at, while also trying to figure out, you know, aside from rat fucking the next election, how to bring in potentially turnout, so a few more voters. But while this is happening, right, you got people like Dr. Oz. He basically disappeared any mention of Trump from his socials, from his website, nothing, the words, like there's not even a thing that he's like endorsed by Trump on his website. So he basically, once he got out the primary, he basically Mariahed Trump, you know,

just been like, oh, I don't know her. But that's what the virginia guy did right who like i mean this is this is par for the course for someone in a swing state because you can only ride the maga wave so far before you're like this is it starts getting toxic if i if i stay on a little bit too long is too hot it's scary i'm too high. Too high on this shit. Yeah. So that's like clockwork. Then you have the fucking, one of the organizers of the January 6th rally, one of the fucking people who put this shit together,

the rally for him to speak at, she basically is out here saying Trump is washed. This woman, Amy Creamer, she said, quote, Donald Trump is disconnected from the base it's time for those of us in the movement to get back to basis back back to basics back to our first principles we were here long before president trump came along and we're going to be here long afterward now when she says disconnected from the base does that mean not racist enough that's usually what that means now in that context in a way or not dumb enough to back mo

brooks we talked about mo brooks he you know from alabama one of the silliest motherfuckers in the congress uh who wore body armor on january 6th but was like yeah but i just did that because you know i forgot my tech fleece in my car i just need to be warm that's why i had this ballistic vest on she was a big supporter of his. And that race just ended. And we talked about how Trump abandoned Mo Brooks's ass and left him just out there in the cold. And as a result, Mitch McConnell's pick, who the mainstream, or not mainstream, but that old school GOP Mitch McConnell wing backed this other candidate, she won. So I think this Amy Kramer woman is a bit

in her feelings about that, but also at the same time, more willing to be like, man, what the fuck? Like people being like, man, this shit doesn't hit anymore. That's kind of like what it's starting the subtext feels like when people say stuff like that. It doesn't hit the same. Yeah. Let's take a quick break and then we'll talk about the big, the big schism that's happening right now in MAGA because DeSantis is also kind of distancing and DeSantis is scary as fuck, man. Like, yeah. So let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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Yeah, New York Magazine. Yeah, come on. So they just released an article about how hard it is to be canceled in modern America. It focused on a 17-year-old kid who showed his classmates a nude picture of his underage girlfriend without her permission at a party. She found out at the start of the next school year, felt betrayed, broke up with him. And then other people stopped talking to him.

And he got put on lists on a bathroom wall of people to look out for with regards to predators. wall of people to like look out for with regards to like predators and um this is at a time when there are protests and walkouts uh due to title nine rollbacks that uh the trump administration did uh the article does not dig into that and like what you know it basically is like yeah people were offended that like some nude photos were being shared around, and so there were walkouts. But it is centered on this anonymized young man protagonist who's being treated like a pariah, which is definitely a change from the early 90s

when the coolest kid in my middle school would literally show people his penis in health class and everyone was like ah frank you're crazy frank but the new york magazine article basically asks is this really better which yes i'd say first of all yes it's way better having unofficial like social policies that err on the side of protecting young women and correcting sexually predatory behavior is better than policies that err on the side of protecting young women and correcting sexually predatory behavior is better than policies that encourage and even reward like young men for behavior that um is predatory yeah yeah the whole the whole article is so wild like in just

centering this like young man as the victim no real mention of like revenge porn the effects that has on people there's like a mention of like how some of like the black or brown students there had been allegations against them but those were like like false but not really like even following up on that um yeah there's like so many things as you're really like wait what about this what about huh what uh-huh like it wasn't until 2017 where like societally we were being like okay what what do we need to do something about rape culture is that something that needs to be addressed because prior to that it slut shaming was like the the standard practice and it was always about do the dude i don't know it's just being a dude but this girl is bad and right because there's like this inversion it's sending off alarm bells for people

who are all about the status quo and they're like well hold on hold on hold on man like we're now holding young boys to account for shit it wasn't always like this it wasn't always like this and i think that's what's really fucked up about this article because if kids at that age have the wherewithal to know someone who is you know uh acting predatory or like has no consideration for a person's consent i don't really want to be with that that sounds like a bit of progress because these were not words i even considered in my youth because the conversation was so backwards back then that everything was there to just reinforce this idea that your boys are just boys will be fucking boys if the

protagonist of this article had been a young woman facing like social backlash for something like far less egregious completely innocent, it wouldn't even be an article because that is just what is accepted as high school behavior. People make up rumors about girls and young women all the time and they deal with reputational repercussions for years. Depression, all kinds of mental health outcomes become fucked up as a result of that shit, yeah. Yeah, it's wild too that, you know, All kinds of like mental health outcomes become fucked up as a result of that shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's wild to that, you know, like, first of all, if your girlfriend is sending you nude pictures, any girl really, but your girlfriend is sending you nude pictures. Why are you showing other people your girlfriend's body? like that doesn't it's just like that like you said the the the culture of young men and boys not caring about the sacred nature of their relationship in relation to you know giving their boys you know the yeah the credence of hey man how cool am i man she giving me naked pictures like you know we got to change that shit because yeah because it's truly the object just a objectification of a human being it's now it's not you're a person you are object you are you are jpeg on my phone you're not a person and you're basically a trading card i have as like a testament to my you know masculine

appeal or whatever the fuck it is i think think what's interesting for all these people who are constantly talking about, like, these criticisms of cancel culture, there's not enough acknowledgement of cancel culture is born out of the kinds of levels of accountability that are people trying to see. Those aren't realistic. Those aren't happening. So the next place that people go to saying, I'm not fucking with this person there. I'm ostracizing them because there's no other accountability because it doesn't come from the administration of talked about the same thing of like when people are, uh, or are transgressing or like falling outside of like the norms of what we need to have,

like for a functioning, healthy society, we, it's like cancel culture or just the idea that, oh, fuck them. They're canceled is the same way we look at people who like we incarcerate. Right.

And not to say that they're even, even similar, but the idea is, oh fucked up toss them out and a lot of people who advocate for real change say we need something restorative right it can't just be toss somebody out it needs to be education it needs to be let me tell you why this is wrong this is this is what's going on because i think what happens is we have no path to actually improve somebody when they fall off. Yeah. Right. And I think that's another thing.

But saying like they've, I don't know, the approach of just being like we're being too mean to them is also like not the. And like they also removed this really important context from it. So they didn't say like where this story is happening. They're like, could be any town USA could be right next to you. But Gawker basically figured out it was like where it was. And there was a citywide movement happening in, uh,

like high schools across the city. That was a protest in reaction to what the Trump administration did to title nine, which is basically, they changed it from like being, you know, when somebody, at least the letter of the law was when somebody like,

uh, issues an accusation, like you have to take that seriously. They changed it to a procedure where like basically you put to the two people in a room and essentially say talk it out and instead of like framing the issue around one party that has caused harm to the other you know that they uh gawker did a really good kind of um analysis of this new york magazine piece and they interviewed somebody, Know Your Nine manager Sage Carson and they were like, it's basically like the

new system rests on the idea that there is harm on both sides that needs to be mediated. It treats the boy's complaint that his reputation has been harmed as something that needs to be taken seriously and that

the other person needs to like understand that and like make up for that this is just like it yeah we we're seeing like these massive dysfunctions in our society like kind of begin to have moments of reckoning and the sort of response is to like victim blame or again and be like well well, you know, it's the same thing. You look at like white fragility, right? People are now being like, well, people are thinking that they're bad because of racism. And we need to think about that. And I'll just say this.

If you do something wrong, you should face the consequences. should face the consequences so what we're telling young women is your boyfriend showing your naked body to people that you didn't give permission to is not wrong because we're being too mean to him and he's the victim and look if you're gonna choose to do that, nobody can stop you. But if you get caught or somebody finds out you did that shit, you can't fight the consequences. Take your fucking lumps. Take your whoopings. Take your L's, as they say. And that's why we have to start telling these young kids, nah, that shit is wrong. And if you continue to do that throughout your life, you will face consequences.

And that's how we change it is by making people face the consequences it's not cancel culture it's facing consequences for your goddamn wrong actions that's it yeah because you keep telling people boys will be boys then they will continue to be boys or display or act out this kind of predatory behavior yeah a very toxic definition of boys and and by the way the movement the walkout movement started in 2019 when a student reported being assaulted on campus and the faculty didn't do shit so that was before all these title nine uh changes took place then the pandemic and then they come back from the pandemic and now the laws are even looser and less in the favor of victims. And yeah, they're going to have some walkouts in the u.s that is like left-leaning or has a liberal

bias and um in a lot of cases like we you know we've talked before about how like people are talking about like well the biden administration is like carter and we're like going back to that malaise area uh and now we're going to see like the 80s come back where uh rich yuppies and like reagan reaganomics rules the day and it's like no we're already there like we're already there this is the mainstream media is as conservative uh if not more so than it was like during the 80s it's it's fucked and like the the sooner we start like acknowledging that and like using words to identify that i think the better off we're gonna be um and i think people know it and to that point jack i say we stop letting miles talk for the rest of the episode

thank you because man miles did some shit that we got to make him face the consequences. And his consequences is you don't get to speak for the next five minutes. First Daily Zeitgeist without a Miles outro. No, this episode, so it's kind of interesting for a little peek behind the scenes. We are recording this episode

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