The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 232 (6/27/22-7/1/22)

Episode Date: July 3, 2022

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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. What are we doing here talking to each other when we have an esteemed guest? A very talented podcaster, a NextUp fellow from Ana Hosnia's NextUp initiative. She was formerly a trained esthetician, but since completing the program has moved into podcasting full time, has a new show out on iHeart right now. Go listen to it.

It's called Beauty Translated, which is all about celebrating the trans experience. Please welcome Carmen Lauren. Hello. How are you guys? Welcome. We're good. I have to say, as a longtime listener, it was very surreal to watch that just now, the whole intro. No, Carmen.

The fact that we do the whole thing just completely dead-eyed, looking off into the middle distance without moving. The fact that it also looks like shit, not only sounds like it, really blew me away. Wow. 10 out of 10. Wow. I loved it. It was great. Carmen, congrats. It's a big day. We know whenever a podcaster has their show go out to the world, it's a big day. Congratulations on your show.

Thank you so much. Just play that little harp music that delivery wards have when a baby is born. We do that at iHeart whenever a new podcast is launched into the world. Yeah, the story comes. That's what it feels like yeah working working on it since August yeah it's really nice that it's finally out into the world today so thank you yes and tell people a little bit about what they can you know expect from listening to the show and kind of like your background and all that yeah um so my background as an esthetician, I created the show thinking, you know, oh, I'm going to make a show about beauty and about like skincare products and cosmetics and things like that. But I also really, as a transgender woman, I wanted to speak specifically to transgender guests about their experience, because that's something that I've always found, like as an interest as an esthetician. because that's something that I've always found like as an interest as an esthetician I in the south I had to pretend to not be trans in order to survive and so this is like the first time

where I get to kind of talk about those things in a podcast where you know each guest I find that they have something you know uniquely beautiful about them but we don't we're not talking about beauty we're actually talking about beauty. We're actually talking about much bigger topics and conversations that are about their lives, all of that. And your skin looks fantastic. What is a step I can take as a crusty dude? What's the first step I could take to begin to be on a path of skin that looks like, you know, I got like that twilight glow? Well, it always starts with prevention.

So if you're not preventing sun damage by wearing SPF every day, then anything you're doing afterwards is going to be just, it's not going to have an effect. So you got to wear your spf first and foremost yeah that really seems to be the big the big one it's like this is boring but you gotta wear sunscreen or just don't go outside yeah yeah 85 to 90 percent of all your skin aging is caused by by the sun so that makes sense don't do it my mom yeah my mom like from the like since the 90s was walking was like driving with like forearm gloves and i remember my i remember my my friends being like is she like a professional driver like trying to know she's japanese and they don't fucking play with the sun so yeah absolutely yeah so no tans no none of that tans tan No, none of that. Tans are... Tanning, not good. Tanning is not good. But I just got a sunburn actually recently.

No! Yeah. But I almost drowned. So it was like... Oh, oh, yeah. I was like, I could have drowned in the ocean or I could have gotten a sunburn. So I would have taken the sunburn over drowning in the ocean. Glad you're safe.

Wear a life vest. I mean, but what does drowning do for your skin? Like, that's the question, you know? Like, we have to take that into account. Probably not good, yeah. I feel like the pallor of the ones you see in movies are always like... I've seen Twin Peaks. Yeah, Twin Peaks.

That's what I was thinking of Twin Peaks. And I was like, pretty beautiful dead body, but yeah, not great for the old complex. Yeah. No. As I call it. Kina, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Thank you for asking, because I truly did go into the history. This is not for the bit. This is true. Christine Brown interviewed Sister Wives 2022.

I don't know if you're familiar with the tlc show sister wives okay but it's about uh cody brown the patriarch of a like a fundamental mormon family and they've had a tlc show for like 17 years and recently one of their wives is saying i'm done cody you're an asshole i'm through with this and so when the world explodes and i can't look at that drama some people like kind of like move back and they like do yoga or like they take a break i want to lean in but i want to lean in to like some meaningless shit yeah yeah you know i can't read the news but i do want drama i do want tea but just make it about this mormon white woman and then i spend hours and hours looking into has she done any interviews what's she up to now she has a hobby she has a

cooking show she lost a lot of weight christine's doing great so is she doing like spawn con she live in that like influencer life or what yeah well they they their whole life is like being mormon and having this show but now she has a show called Cooking with Only Christine. A little dig at her. Oh, with only Christine? With only, literally, that's in the fucking title. Wow. Or with just Christine.

That's what I came for. Right. She said, look, bitches, I've been done. You stay with that man with the balding hip. I'm through. I'm the only,ris with only christine over here just christine it's wild you know it's funny how so many people i myself included like when you are so engaged with the news and current events and have to like really be analytical and

think critically about it like day in and day out so many people retreat to garbage reality TV. Like, oh, yeah, it's wild how I'm seeing this, too. Like, even like I bring up Cerise Castle, who, you know, just won, I believe, like just received an award for her reporting on like gangs in the L.A. Sheriff's Department, who's like, you know, one of the most brave journalists I've ever seen. I'm dealing with death threats and stuff. And then I'm talking about 90 Day and I get DM like, hey, man, I want to come on the podcast about 90 day fiance. And I'm like, wait, what? I'm like over here thanking you for your work. And you're like, I love 90 day. And it, I, I, I see like how it's pretty much the opposite of what it means to be like engaged. That's the reality I want to be in. You know what I mean? It makes the world look so

two dimensional and it's comforting. And you can just what i mean it makes the world look so two-dimensional and it's comforting and you can just like accept the vision of the world they're giving you and you're like great no notes this is perfect right you're right you should move back to utah christine cody is an asshole yes that's all that matters wait back to utah she wasn't in utah yes so they fled utah because they were criminalizing it and went to las vegas lived in this cul-de-sac, these four houses, like a little, they all have this whole family cul-de-sac. And then they moved to Arizona for some reason. But Christina, she's feeling her heart being drawn back to Utah because it's not a crime anymore and she wants to live her truth. But I think she's going to move into monogamy.

Okay. Wow. Okay, Christina. Yeah, I've spent days. so my life is 100 christine yeah google sister wives i get auto completes of season 17 so this has been going on for for a while sister yes i think they have like 25 kids right like since the days of big love yeah yes lots of babies you know i mean i feel like it like it came on the heels of big love almost got it i don't think i've ever seen big love oh yeah it's like an hbo prestige show yeah okay that was about like a similar scenario with like three connected homes with very different i think

three wives right and then yeah bill pullman? Yep. Yeah, nailed it. I'm getting so good. I don't think I've misidentified a Pullman-Paxson in a while. So my training has paid off. I think I just said his name wrong, but I think it is. It's Paxton, isn't it? Paxton, yeah.

I said Paxton like he's Jim or John. The one who passed away, right? Oh, yeah, see? Big Love came out 2006 sister wife season one 2010 there it is i felt like that was like that sort of brought in the conversation we're like yo we can there's real there's the real life version up the street we can talk about what what about this reality show like why this instead of 90 day fiance yeah thank you this has the hard question i you know i think that 90 day fiance feels too gimmicky and it's almost like too easy for me to understand like i get getting to a place in your life not that this applies to everybody but like you're sad

and you just want something exciting and wouldn't it be crazy to marry someone from another country and bring them over and like you just want to be messy i get that feeling i can connect to it i was there two weeks ago sister wives right where like they all have this religious aspect and they've all been together for so long and then you have the new wife robin who like is clearly the favorite and he's spending all this time with her because they have young children and then the three wives were like no i'm so okay with this i don't even like spending every night with my husband because actually I'm like, I have all these hobbies. And then they like get so deep into like, and it's this huge like sunk cost fallacy, right? They have all these fucking kids. It's all intertwined. Once you're unhappy, what do you do at that point? And in the last interview, Christine says that she was like thinking about renovating and she was like, well, we'll put our room on the opposite side of the house so we can have some intimacy. And then she asked Cody, like,

do you even think we'll need that anymore? And he's like, nah, not really. I mean, you can just put the house, like put the rooms anywhere. And she was like, he didn't even like take that as a very clear, like do you even need that shit anymore man and he was like instead of being like what do you mean oh my god of course we still need it exactly of course i love you number three and even in my darkest days even in my darkest i don't think i could ever do that much mental gymnastics knock on wood but like they're all

participating in this like kind of shared delusion oh i fucking love it it's like more yeah 90 day fiance is too simple right because 90 day fiance very easy to wrap your head around like the interpersonal drama this takes like interpersonal drama and then puts like a seventh seven dimensions on top of yes there's like heavenly father and Heavenly Father and then they're white from Utah, but now they're in Las Vegas. Right. Stifling, actually communicating your needs to a partner

every time. Yeah, I feel it. Right. Amazing. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? Oh, I'm going to get

dragged for this. No. So years ago, so I'm a watcher of the Game Show Network. I love game shows. My whole family loves game shows. We love them. You know, we've gone to the Wheel of Fortune Live. We've gone to AGT Live.

We just love it. There was a show called Lingo. There was a game called Lingo. There was a game called Lingo. And Lingo was two teams trying to guess what a five-letter word was. Right. If you know, you know. And it was amazing. Got it. So my thing that's overrated right now and really gets to me.

Don't do it to them. I'm sorry, New York Times. Wordle. me i'm sorry new york times wordle wordle totally stole lingo's idea i am standing by that if you're a lingo fan you know that's that's my thing that i think is overrated well is that really overrated it's overrated yes it's overrated as like an original creation. As like, yeah, it's totally, it's stolen. And now people are like, Wordle, Wordle, Wordle. Where were you when lingo was alive? That's right.

You weren't on the lingo train. I was ignorant. Because I'm a big Wordle head. I, you know, I'm sorry. No, it's all right. Like, I don't, I don't, I just do it as a guilty pleasure. My streak's at 164, so I'm doing pretty good. Damn, you've been going, going.

That's you not doing it? Okay. Yeah. Like, I don't, like, agree with it philosophically. I just, like, think it's, like, fun and, like, do it as a guilty pleasure. Because it's lingo. Because it's lingo. And I didn't even know. Now I have to go back and watch lingo.

You have to watch lingo. Yeah. I too was a new convert to lingo and seeing it after the fact after Worldle was like another. Oh you've seen it? Well I mean now. It was one of those things where it's like you learn about Worldle and it's like oh what's this and you think it's so fresh and new and then lingo hive comes up

and says now you all see what we've been? And you think it's so fresh and new. And then Blinkohive comes up and says, now you all see what we've been loving for generations. And it's like, oh, man. Is it the same mechanism where you guess by letter and they tell you like, wow. Exactly. If the letter turns green, that means it is the correct letter

in the right place. If it is yellow, it is a correct letter, but not in the right place. Wow. is yellow, it is a correct letter, but not in the right place. Wow. The colors and everything. Amazing. What is something that you think is underrated? Oh. Eastern hats.

Eastern? Easter hats? Eastern. Eastern. Yes. Okay. So I'd say, ooh, don't let my black grandma hear you say that. No, Easter hats are amazing. They're highly rated and they're appropriately rated. I love Easter hats. No, what is what is underrated is, I think, Eastern styles of hats versus Western styles of hats. I've been watching this Persian drama series called Jeiron. I got into it when I had COVID.

And it's set in like the 1800s, roughly. Like, it doesn't really like, you know, stick to a year, but it's like 1800s up till the 1920s, maybe. So it's the Qajar dynasty. So there's like a king. It's about this like beautiful girl and the king sees her and he's like, I must have you. And she's like, no, I wish to marry my peasant boyfriend, Siavash. And he's like, no have you and she's like no i wish to marry my peasant boyfriend see you and he's like no you have to marry me anyways it's great and a bunch of guys on it wear these hats that are like i can actually i'll send you a picture right now jack o'brien has written eastern hats um i've given you a link to a picture of a couple of these hats they're very tall and they have no brim.

And this is like an old Persian style of hat. If you've seen Jesus Christ Superstar, the Persian Jews in that movie wear these really tall, cool black hats that look kind of like Pope hats. So there's just like a lot of different styles of hat. It's like a beanie mixed with a Pope hat. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't have a brim, so it doesn't shield your face from the sun at all. It just shields the top of your head, and mostly it's about status.

It makes you look tall as fuck. It makes you look super tall. Some guys have these really tall hats. Some of them are tall and kind of pointy. Mostly they're black wool. Some guys have these little kind of round hats that it makes the top of their head look like a minion, but a black but a black minion yeah hell yeah i love this yeah this is a great this is a great series do you know what

this hat is called the abe lincoln beanie i don't know what any of these hats are called i'm definitely going to try and find out but here's another we will link off to a picture of it in the footnotes and you can do the research for us there's the minion hat i want to buy i want to buy somebody says i'm looking at them now i want to buy some of these hats i have too much hair i think uh or not too much hair my hair is just throwed out so unless i'm wearing braids i can i can wear hats gives you a little room up there but yeah i want to i want to i want to buy one of these hats and bring them into fashion i wish i was in the nba that's what we need to bring these hats like hats to modern fashion

or to the culture and to street fashion because that's when fashion hits. It's when black folks start doing shit. That's when everybody start doing shit. Black folks and LGBTQ people, whenever those communities wear fashion, that's when they hit the mainstream.

We need the NBA and the WNBA to bring this forward. It's nice. It's a hat made for people with thick hair. It's like, oh yeah, you're going to pile up all your hair and then put this hat on top of it. Oh yeah. And that dramatic, you take it off

and just shake your hair out. Like Nick Cage walking off the plane in Con Air. He lets your hair hit the wind although it's it's so interesting because he has so much hair but he's also like clearly losing his hair in that movie like the the hairline is moving back but there's so much hair yeah so i i imagine right before that shot, he took his Eastern hat off.

Yeah. And let the sun hit his full head and just was reveling in it. But yeah, the ones that I'm sending you guys are like specifically Persian hats, but there are very similar styles like all across Asia. And I think that it's just an area that we in the West have not explored fashion-wise. Yeah, this is very dope. Glad you guys like these hats. Great. Underrated. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about the Supreme Court, and then we will transition quickly to the Minions.

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And we're back. And yeah, let's dig into it. The big interview VP Kamala Harris went on CNN and just kind of walked through her experience with the news. And I don't know know it didn't seem like she was inspired to action so i didn't feel like i don't know it it wasn't reassuring i guess yeah i think just to set the table right this is the first time she she's making an appearance to speak officially right this is like against the backdrop of AOC calling for abortion clinics. I mean, many people saying, why don't you open abortion clinics on federal land in red states? Or Elizabeth Warren saying the same thing, like you could declare a medical emergency to set up medical clinics like near national parks, near federal land and try and at least create a place for for people to get care. and try and at least create a place for people to get care.

So while all that's happening, this is the line of questioning, and this is the response that we get from Vice President Harris. Federal land that might be in and around states that ban abortion. I think that what is most important right now is that we ensure that the restrictions that the states are trying to put up that would prohibit a woman from exercising what we still maintain is her right, that we do everything we can to empower women to not only seek but to receive the care where it is available. Is federal land one of those options?

I mean, it's not right now what we are discussing, but I will say that when I think about what is happening in terms of the states, we have to also recognize, Dana, that we are 130 odd days away from an election, which is going to include Senate races, right? Part of the issue here is that the court has acted, now Congress needs to act. But if you count the votes, don't appear to have the votes in the Senate. Well, there's an election happening in 130 odd days. I'm taking, for example, thinking of a Senate race in Georgia. Okay. So we just took a hard turn into electoral town when the question was, what can be done to help people that are in immediate need? And it was just a lot of pivoting. In fairness to Kamala, right,

there are some issues with providing, like there are issues with providing abortion care on federal land. That's like the Hyde Amendment is the whole thing. Like the Hyde Amendment prohibits federal funds from being used for abortions only in the event of like rape or incest or to save the life of the mother. So that's the time the federal funds can be used. So it's thorny, right? Because immediately I'd imagine these red states would go and be like the Hyde Amendment or whatever. But, you know, when you think about it, and the Hyde Amendment has been an obstacle that a lot of activists and people who are advocating for abortion acts have been like, you have to get rid of this, because if you get rid of that, that allows for safer access, especially for poor people. That's who really benefits from federal funds being able to be used to provide this kind of care. back a year and a half or so, two years, Joe Biden was the only presidential candidate that supported keeping the Hyde Amendment. And he only pivoted when it became politically beneficial to him.

If only, right, that was something that he could have even done in the beginning of taking off, taking office, that may put more options on the table. The other thing is like, I just don't understand the response from from the vice president. If she was she unaware of the problems that would arise with what Elizabeth Warren and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez were proposing? And if you and if you were not unaware and you were aware, why not explain those issues, provide, you know, articulate an alternative and demonstrate to people, at least on some level, that there is some thought going into this. And I don't like, again, that she said the priority right now is to fight the restrictions that are being put in place. Well, they are in place already. And there are people already turning away people looking for this kind of care and their lives are potentially hanging in the balance. So what, like what is happening? What are you telling the people right now?

Like that need, that needs some kind of alternative. That's why, like there, where's that sense of urgency. I'm, and it really, it just,

it freaks me out to hear somebody be like, well, you know, there is an election in 130 days. Yeah. It's straight up. Like it's like, be a shame if type, type shit. yeah it's straight up like it's like be a shame if type type shit like it's it's

straight up feels like you're being extorted to go vote and it's not like they're going to be very disappointed if that is their their strategy but that that does not inspire confidence to be like this time we swear we're gonna do the thing that but we said we're most voters unfortunately on are on their first i swear right you know like and i and i and not to say that like don't fucking do this but it is it's a very effective tactic it's a very effective tactic i mean we talked about just the poll poll swing in the polling that happened because it is a very effective tactic. And and it just it really fucking it freaks me out again to Spain to be able to do that. There are people right now who need help literally right this second in places where they cannot get it. And I don't like that that proposition because that proposition is always put in front of politicians. There are always just like in the summer of 2020.

There are people of color who are at risk of being killed by police. We need to address this right now. There are people, all these transphobic bills that are popping up in schools we need a response right now but it's just like i think they don't want to also signal like independence or moderates who are undecided that like we're not like fully on some like live shit and we're just gonna come through with some sweeping like we saved the women type shit we're not gonna go that far if that was the issue this is a overwhelmingly popular like the the the overturning of rose like wildly unpopular like that's always been my thing is like

they yes america is like a moderate country more moderate than me they're probably like do have some math behind the scenes but like this one is like a open and shut like we act now to fix the thing that will make us more popular and rather than fixing the thing becoming more popular now they are doing the we can't fix it too fast we gotta hold it out there as a thing we could do if we voted and not that like it's easy like i right there's probably problems with all the solutions that people are suggesting right now that would be made easier if there were more democrats in the senate in the house but like fight we need to, fight. We need to see you fight. We need to see you have ideas that are strong

and, like, prove that you are willing to do difficult things to help people. Yeah. Just, like, don't miss me with the voting shit. Like, what, in your heavily fucking gerrymandered district where they've already are the architects of your demise and are ensuring your vote doesn't count.

That's that's also a problem to Democrats. If your insistence is on this mechanism of electoral politics, you haven't even fucking got. They're not even playing on a level playing field there and you're still like hey do hey do the thing where it's terribly skewed in the opposite direction and not even address that dysfunction it just feels there's like so many layers to get through like where you just find yourself burnt out trying to think of what what's going to work yeah it's like they just kind of threw their hands up and were like just the messages all that they have to say is go vote but again like

you know if you're like you're saying miles if you live somewhere like for example georgia where they just made it illegal for example to pass out bottles of water to people waiting in line but not illegal for you to have to wait in line for over eight hours to cast a vote right you know like that doesn't that doesn't do anything but just continue to frustrate people you know yeah i'm frustrated and you know what and people are they reveal themselves to be resilient because despite that they'll still go and participate in this process because the message typically is your fucking life's on the line right now. And a lot of people hear that. And it sucks that we're part of this deal is dangling existential threats over people's head, but there's no, how can we demand accountability back aside from them

being like, Oh, what are you going to do? let the fucking fascist bully take over and that's like such a terrible fork in the road to constantly to look at and you're like where is another fork it's not a long-term strategy for making the lives of the people who you govern better which is supposed to be your job it's yeah yeah it's how do i stay here how do i stay here how do i stay here how do i stay here how do i stay in this office there's also a part of the interview where she's like it's one thing to like know it's gonna happen but it's another to like actually have it happen which is definitely true but it's like that's that's true for me like as somebody who like doesn't isn't the vice president of the united states but like i i would have expected there to be things in the works immediately like they had their trigger laws ready to go

when uh roe was overturned what about like how did this not trigger just a whole fucking well you know we just assumed we'd be able to hurricane of lawsuits and like everything like it just it really feels like i don't know who did the leak but it does feel like the leak worked really well for the conservative side and that they did it they saw that the you know mainstream democratic party was not going to scramble to like do what was necessary to make sure that like this shit was not going to scramble to like do what was necessary to make sure that like this shit was not going to happen and was not going to kill people they gave them bodyguards right and then yeah and so they were like all right well i guess we can go with the strongest version of this possible and the people who are like the head of the executive branch would be like oh man i didn't

really think they were gonna do it what the the heck that's come on yeah for real for real steady leadership i was they've done everything they said they were gonna do yeah yeah right and and who and who's the and now what they're gonna say is is, you know, what happens if the Senate, if they get a majority, they're going to nuke the filibuster and go for a total a national ban on abortion. Right. Yeah. Wow. Almost like, yeah, y'all should have done that first. And what the fuck were you doing? You were you guys were circle jerking around the fucking ancient racist tradition of the filibuster and like oh we can't i mean it's just it would just be so out of norms to guarantee people voting rights but remember we used to be able to get lunch together yeah and guess what they don't give

a fuck and like stop acting like wake the fuck up it, so a lot's on the plate. All right, let's talk about this latest Supreme Court decision. It regards a football coach, a high school football coach for a public school who basically came out and was like, he started praying by himself. But everybody was like, oh, he seems to like it when we pray with him after the games so then it became this big thing where he would like basically deliver a sermon at the end of football games and his players you know would obviously feel pressured to like be there and be like the best christian prayer at this public school. So people noted it to the school board. The school board was like, hey, could you not do that?

And he turned it into, you know, every white Christian male's favorite thing, which is like a opportunity to be like, they hate us because we're Christian. And like the next game, he kneeled to pray and did his sermon and all the news cameras were there and the school like it was elvis like if yeah if he's going to wiggle his hips and shit yeah exactly right and the school board was like i mean could you just like pray and i don't know, like by yourself somewhere. And he was like, you're like the Nazis basically. And so they put him on leave.

And that that was the Supreme Court decision was like he was being persecuted for his Christianity. And I don't know, like reading the opinion, just kept thinking of brett kavanaugh and how mad he was that he had to even like face questioning like the the whole narrative around him being like what is this i'm being attacked i like to drink beer you know like just like the most inarticulate, dumb, but like full of righteous indignation display by a human that maybe I've ever seen. But that seems to be the game is that they want to turn themselves as like one of the least oppressed groups of humans, maybe in the history of Earth earth becoming less repressed with each supreme court decision they like the one thing that they can't be in america is oppressed by the system because they are the system and the whole text and belief system is based on worshiping a person who was persecuted and i just feel like it doesn't,

it's never sat comfortably with them, like that they don't get to be turned into like the martyrs for being Christian. And I, I used to go to a public school that had like fellowship of Christian athlete things where you had to like sit through the wildest most like over the top you're burning in hell if your soul is not saved by the lord type shit like and it was just everybody did it because you wanted to like be on the basketball

team essentially and yeah man it's it's there's also the rudy story which is it's like i mean all this shit right like this is another like what happened to the fucking establishment clause you know like most people point out like you have a public cert because this is a public school so someone who's a public servant mixing religion and that's becoming like what a governmental entanglement or whatever like the the laws like you know the the elements for the establishment clause to be met but like i in looking at all of this right now on top of this the the row decision we're now also saying you know a theocracy is like actually the official you know now the official uh system of this country now because church and state we're not trying to

separate them it's church and state together and we're i feel like every single moment we're we're like the other thing i guess that's frustrating as i look at all these things is that we're also being like batted around being told to respect these like ancient sheets of fucking paper. Right. Whether it's the Bible or the Constitution. And those have somehow become these infallible fucking things were to to use to lead your argument with that. The Constitution says the Bible says that has become just such a potent argument against fucking logic that that's another part that completely blows my mind

is that our deference to these things too is all like just continues this sort of like fucking trip up that we're experiencing judicially well Well, I think what's funny about the coach situation is that, let's say you remove religion and morality from it. It's concerning to me that a coach in charge of young, impressionable people can't understand the concept of coercion and persuasion, right? How, if you don't understand how a child would feel pressure to participate in a prayer that they don't want to participate in because you're an authority figure and you don't understand power dynamics, just the concept of it, you really should not be working with children. Right. Like even if you don't get that concept, right? That how coercion manifests in this like coach mentor relationship. Oh,

I'm sorry, babe. Like you just don't, you don't understand enough about human interaction to work with children. And then to that, they would say, you know, they don't, for them, it's really not about coercion, right? Because for them, a kid's going to see a drag queen read a book at a library's coercion and grooming oh yeah they're so quick to use these concepts but immediately it doesn't apply the other way and i think that's why a lot of there was that twitter thread from somebody saying like this isn't like to think of it as hypocrisy is completely wrong like there isn't they're not you can't get a conservative like well what about this though but that's coercion but then this isn't they're not you can't get conservative like, well, what about this, though? But that's coercion. But then this isn't that's not the game. The game is it's a theocracy straight up.

We don't want we don't we want to completely erase and disappear for like marginalized people that don't fit with our Christian worldview. That's all it is. But we'll use the words of the law to so because we can't just be out here saying, we don't think gay people should be around. We don't like this. We don't like that. We just there are too many brown people here. So we have to we so we can use our ancient sheets of paper to sort of justify what these sort of aims are and use like these cases that are really just at the end of the day, for the fact that christianity is the number one religion fuck and fuck anything else you're saying because i'm sure i i i'm curious if someone in protest would be like okay let me test that out i'm muslim and i work for the city what can i what what where's the line for me now because if this is

saying like are we then gonna begin to dial it in more and have to be specific that's like well it's actually you know christianity but the other religions you know we're not really so we're talking to you but yeah exactly and i think that's the thing that like we're we're also looking at a lot of these decisions like yo this doesn't even make sense it's like well yeah it doesn't make sense to us because we wouldn't try and have these laws over people that gave them no options. Like in the same way that you could make an argument that says, you know what? I think Christianity is fucked up. Right. And I think it's been used to justify countless horrors since time immemorial. What I don't want, I don't think Bible should exist because I don't want that near my child. I don't want my child to even have

the opportunity to engage with that because that's how they look at these other things oh yeah yeah if your child's teacher is gay he's gonna be gay like the second your child walks into a room if the teacher is gay your five-year-old's gonna be sucking dick next week right and like the it's that well yeah you're like you're saying it doesn't make sense right because their whole their truth is that those papers whether they be in a book or on the constitution are law so even their methods of getting to those laws being upheld it almost doesn't matter like if they kind of get there in a fucked up way, at the end of the day, it was the right thing

to do because it was moving towards making their papers truth. So even if we did it in a shitty way, even if we did it unethically, it's ethical at the end of the day. These ancient sheets of paper got my back, though. That's why. And I don't care. Fuck everything else you're

saying. And I think we do ourselves a disservice to continue to look at this group like you know we got two we got two parties right we got the ones that are saying like fuck what you want this is a theocracy also we love capitalism then we have the other group that's like we love capitalism we also kind of know what's fair but at the end of the day is money over everything so it's like which at the moment it looks like the people who want to bring in the theocracy pose the largest threat to people's human rights putting aside the financial economic oppression that we just generally experience under capitalism but like now to like even call this thing a like a political party i think is completely it is so far off base.

And many people have been saying that for a long time. When you look at the kinds of things that these people read and the events they speak at, where you have people who are taking office like Secretary of State who are also believing in the end times. These aren't people who are actually looking at the world and like, okay, this is the history of this country. These are the forces at work. They're like, no, no, no. This shit needs to happen so it matches up with the ancient sheets of paper. Sky Daddy's got to come back. So I just got to make it happen, whatever Sky Daddy says. this idea that it feels like a lot of the energy comes from the pain they see it causing

us and the rest of the country. It does feel like that is a big part. That is a lot of the fuel, is that this is grievance. This is them feeling like they've been disrespected in some way and just they don't really care as long as it causes outrage on like among the on the left, but also, you know, the Democratic Party. Like that does seem to be the guiding principle right now. But that is a dark path to travel because that ultimately is about dehumanizing. And somebody made the point that, man, when you read the grooming and child molesting shit from the QAnons of the world talking about the Democratic Party, you really start to realize that they want to kill a lot of people. And that instinct to be like whatever causes the most pain, that leads to very dark, historically horrifying places. And it does seem like that is the magnetic north of this of this movement right now i mean that's that's really it is just it does seem to be headed in a very dark direction

that i'm not i'm not sure like there are two parts of the resistance that are like, so one part is like, well, we've lost and like do it, doing anything practical, like fuck all that. And like, I understand the frustration and then the center ish movement is like, I don't know. It just, I, I'm like,

I'm worried that the side, like the, the leftist movement isn't taking the urge to actually kill people seriously enough. It's a thought that keeps coming up for me as I worry about reality. I mean, you've heard people at like city council meetings like bring up execution and shit like you're like what the fuck and then you have some people like yeah yeah yeah i'm on that that is i'll i'll take that person at their word that that is the a world that they're trying to exist in yeah now whether or not it gets to the plurality of people that's like i think that's

really where we're at right now trying to figure out which way this thing's gonna go still and i think it is tough because on one hand like the democrats have completely botched their audition for having power right and then on the other side of it you've got literally these christian murder terminators who are like fuck what you heard like there are no laws that can keep you safe if you're not on this team and and now you're finding like again you're seeing it express itself in the in the voting polls too and this is like a thing that a lot of people are treating as like the one bright spot like on like msnbc where it's like you know this is bad but polling has swung eight points in the democrats direction now they were three underwater

and now they're up because of this and yes i get it because suddenly a bunch of people became acutely aware of this existential threat but then i'm like for them to even talk about it as being like well here's a good thing for the for game of elections rather than like actually you know i'm i'm already i'm already gonna take everything that this that party's gonna say with a grain of salt but if they're at the very least able to articulate something that was like coherently a plan they may do better than to just keep being like you gotta vote in november and and i feel and it sucks because it's so cynical because we've seen them dangle so many other carrots in front of voters just to be like, you know, that like you feel even like it feels even grosser in this situation, too, when you're like, man, they just literally just fucking took these rights away. Like it was.

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And we're back. And Dan, I'm just going to throw it over to you because you put this on my radar. Indeed. I'm ashamed to say I wasn't up on this. This is one of those things where I like to text the group chat beforehand and say, did you guys already talk about this? And when Jack says no, my eyes just light up. So as a little bit of context for, I mean, I imagine most of the

listeners know, but for our wonderful guests today, we are just woefully obsessed with fast food and all of the many facets and its moves in terms of offering just completely off the wall dishes to the people of the world. And anytime one of these pops up, we all hit each other and say, okay, who's eating it first? And this was another one. Four words, two hyphenated, big cheese it tostada. I saw that and I went, ooh baby, we're lighting up the group chat today. So yes, that's right gang, Taco Bell is going off once again

with this enormous cheese that's stuffed into a Crunchwrap Supreme, the only Supreme thing, anything as far as I'm concerned, and at the base of a tostada. And it's the next thing I'm trying this weekend when I'm making bad decisions. And I'm very excited about it. So are you are you referring to supreme pizza or supreme yeah supreme pizza no you know i don't like supreme pizza too many peppers

but uh yeah exactly so has the supreme court ruined the yeah i think it was has the supreme court ruined the word supreme for Hypebeast? Yes, we can no longer use that word. Yeah, we need to, Supreme needs to change his name. They do. Okay. So the Crunchwrap Supreme, for people who don't know, it looks like a disc with a soft tortilla wrapped around it.

Inside is all of the ingredients that Taco Bell offers, I think. The beef. The seasoned beef, lettuce, tomatoes, one of the dressings, cheese, and then a crispy tortilla in the middle. Traditionally, a crispy tortilla, but replaced, replaced, with this delicious, enormous, cheesy monstrosity that is the Big Cheez-It. monstrosity that is the big cheese it so it's a whole cheese it's a it's a cheese it but but it but it covers the whole sandwich or whatever the yeah kind of so like yeah like you know no you're good it's just like a big circular wrap and then in the middle kind of separating the meat

from the cold ingredients which i'm that's just a revelation in general like you know you're not mixed you know you don't have to worry about the meat making the lettuce and the tomato too wilty. You have this nice barrier in between so you get that bite and everything stays fresh. Ooh, amazing. And they just replaced that genius barrier with a giant Cheez-It.

And I can hear people's stomachs just sing in an angel's chorus. It is a gift unto us that has been bestowed by this enormous conglomeration that is inevitably giving all of us problems where is the cheese where's the melted cheese underneath in the under the cheese it under the cheese it with the meat it appears that there is melty melty melty cheese i think cheese. I think you are absolutely right about that. Yes, you have those little bits of cheese just sneaking through the meat there.

Of course, every wonderful good thing comes with an unfortunate catch. And that is the fact that this will kill you. Well, he will eat this until you are dead. That is catch number A. But catch letter B is the fact that for all of our friends outside the state of California, this delicious treat is only available at one single Taco Bell location near the headquarters in Irvine, California. Now, for some people, they're turning off the podcast and saying,

God, how could you tease me with such delicious information? But I know at least three or four friend groups that are planning their pilgrimages as we speak saying, gang, get the minivan. We're getting in the car this weekend and we're going to Irvine. That's such an LA adventure. Completely. Just like when Raising Cane's opened in Burbank and all of us who were too lazy to go down to Englewood or were not even close enough to the one in Alhambra decided to finally get a taste of that delicious chicken over in Burbank. I have a daughter in college, and she is at UC Irvine!

Oh, wow! We will be going down and moving her in and visiting every weekend now just to try. A blessing. I did not know the Taco Bell headquarters was in Irvine. There you go. Now you know. Now you know.

Now you know. I haven't gone to Taco Bell in such a long time, but Cheez-It will make me go. You know, just take that opportunity. Take that opportunity. Say, you know what? They're doing something fun and different. I'm going to give it another shot.

I love Cheez-Its. I love Cheez-Its. They're great. They're amazing. Okay, real quick. In your personal opinion, did extra toasty Cheez-Its, is that overdoing it? No. Not your bag. Not your bag. Okay, noted. No, just the plain old school, maybe the white

cheddar one. Maybe the white cheddar. They're so good. Now, extra extra toasty is for people who aren't familiar is like burnt cheese they were like hey some people like these burnt cheeses this is the first time that i've thought that maybe you might need a burnt cheese it because my one concern with this is that it gets a little soggy like the the way that the way that a cracker reacts to soup like sometimes which i still like but i i prefer a crouton because it retains a crunch a little bit whereas a cracker like if i throw cheese it's although i think i have thrown cheese it's in

soup and they they hold up pretty well so we might okay. I might have just talked my way out of that one. I think you're going to be okay. Yeah. But I appreciate the concern. I don't think they would have done this to us. No, I mean, like, that nice buttery Cheez-It, it can find a way to kind of crumble in your hands or melt in your mouth as it does.

It's so delicious. But I think there's a thickness quotient here that Taco Bell has taken into account when considering it for the structural backbone of one of their most popular items. Do we know why it's just at that one restaurant? Are they testing it out to see if they're going to mass produce it? That's a good question. Something tells me that it being near the HQ is like the testing grounds. The test kitchen is at the headquarters. And let me tell you from personal experience,

you cannot simply just go to the headquarters and ask to see the test kitchen. They will kick you out of the building. They have better security than the Capitol building. Significantly. Yeah. Yeah, the person at the front was not having it. No. But I think it must be.

It has to be a radius to the headquarters thing where they're just like, yeah, throw it out there. And honestly, it's succeeding. They're getting the clicks. They're getting the talks right now from fools like me who are going to see this and be like, gang, guess what? The coolest thing ever just happened. Because I'm constantly starved of good news these days and I take it where I can get it. Exactly. Jesus. constantly starved of good news these days and i take it where i can get it exactly jesus it's being described as an abundantly cheesy and nostalgic yet magically modern dining experience how is it nostalgic if it's just if it's new i think cheese it's

like for people who grew up on cheese it's like that that might But I was going to ask how it's modern because Taco Bell is not breaking any new ground here. No, they're still around. They're recombining. Leela has no idea. She doesn't do the junk. Like I do.

When do you think there will be like a French fast food restaurant? We can get some moules frites at the drive-thru. We can get a little bit of... Okay, bougie. Yeah, a little bougie. I'm a little bougie, yeah.

No, but we used to do like the Taco Bell used to have like the, sorry, 59 cent tacos. Remember that like back in the day? Yeah. A hundred percent. Oh yeah. And you would get like six of them. Oh yeah. Get the box.

A little thingy. Bring it to a party. Or nobody's mad at that. T-Bell party box. Why is ity. Bring it to a party. Nobody's mad at that. Why is it sounding like a Fergie song? Doesn't Fergie have a song where she starts off like, I was at the Taco Bell when I was little.

That sounds like a horrible song. I swear, there is a Fergie song where she starts off, I was like, and when the sun, and the champagne, living the life in the fast lane. Thank you, Justin. You nailed it.

I'm not crazy. Glamorous by Fergie. I still go to Taco Bell, drive through, raw as hell. I don't care. I'm still real, no matter how many records I sell.

Yeah. Fergie's for the people. Fergie's for the people. I thought that was Jack Harlow. He sampled Glamorous for his song. I need to watch TikTok. I don't know what's going on. Justin to the rescue.

Thank you, Justin. Still go to the Taco Bell drive-thru. Raw as hell. Yep. Shout out to a long-time TDC regular, Christy Yamaguchi-Maine, for iterating the same kind of idea with their now extremely viral tweet

about you'll go to Taco Bell at midnight and still find a Mercedes CL35 AMG right in front of four people piled on top of a Vespa right in front of a broken-down car with somebody in it. Everybody's eating Taco Bell. If you haven't tried to go through a Taco Bell drive-thru

on foot and been turned away, then I don't know what to tell you. For the record, to them, on a bike is the same as on foot. Even though I'm like, I'm in a vehicle. They're like, no, you're not. Oh, they won't let you? I only tried it walking because I didn't have a bike. I was way too drunk at three in the morning before bikes were invented.

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