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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist.
These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop
infotainment laugh-stravaganza.
So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist.
Dan, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a former games industry project manager turned full-time content creator from Northern Ireland.
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flying through the cosmos.
Please welcome Psyche!
Hi!
Hello, I'm so excited to be here.
I'm Psyche, aka, I guess I have to have an
aka, so aka
the gayest witch on Twitch.
Because someone once called me that
but I think they were trying to insult me and didn't realize that I
actually took it as kind of a compliment.
Sorry, say it again.
The gayest witch on Twitch?
The gayest witch on Twitch.
He said, and I quote, you are the biggest, gayest woman I have ever seen, and you kind of look like a witch.
Nice.
And I was like, thank you.
That's like three compliments in one.
But yeah, I think he meant gay as well.
Yeah, some correlatives in there.
Like the biggest, the gayest the yeah i mean like
that's pretty impressive right that is i'm i'm impressed take my crown please yeah i'll take
that that's fine how is northern ireland what's the uh what's the weather over there it's wet
really really wet i love the fact that i can look at my like little weather
thing on uh my desktop and it has like rain coming and that's what it says right now but
the other day it was like rain sunshine rain sunshine rain on and off it ended up settling
because it just couldn't decide but it's like never mind forget it all the time like that's
just the way it is that's amazing that's my right sounds about right and i mean hopefully it doesn't inhibit your ability to
celebrate fourth of july this weekend we do a lot of that here your favorite holiday you know it's
funny you say that but like actually i think we might have some american neighbors because
fourth of july we moved into this house like two years ago my first fourth of
july like i never noticed it's coming obviously because it's not celebrated here but we had people
setting off fireworks and i was like what's that for and then i looked at the date and i was like
oh i think we do actually have some american neighbors it's also illegal to set off fireworks
here but they do it anyway that was my next that was my next question yeah you need to have a
license nobody does apparently nobody cares either.
So it still happens.
There you go.
Yeah.
Still okay in the United States,
which is so dry that a single misplaced firework
can just set the whole country on fire.
But we still got to do it, you know?
Still got to do it.
That's the way it is.
Just blow shit up.
Kids in the middle of the street in Los Angeles, California, just blowing things up, setting off car alarms.
It's great.
The one time I experimented with big fireworks was when I lived in Missouri.
I was picking my friend up at the Kansas City airport, driving back.
And I had turned off the part of my brain that notices these things
because i was living in the middle of missouri and was just like yeah that's missouri but my
friend was like hey we've passed like 40 warehouses that all advertise like having the biggest
cheapest best fireworks should we like do something with that and so we got a bunch of fireworks
set them off in a park in the middle of the night well very
drunk and it was one of the most fun things i've ever done in my life so i will like our younger
listeners don't just remove this from your brain but yeah like i i had always looked down upon the
fireworks culture and then i did it and i was like, oh right, because you're blowing things up
and it's awesome.
Exactly.
You get to make your own little Baz Luhrmann film.
What is something from your
search history?
I have never seen the movie The Bodyguard
which is my own fault
because I grew up in a black woman's
house. Someone recently told me that bodyguard which is my own fault because i grew up in a black woman's house but i someone recently
told me that whitney houston holds a katana in that movie and i had to immediately google it
and i was not disappointed a little disappointed because i wanted to see her really really going
at it you wanted to see her fucking swing it yeah whacking some bamboo or anything but it's just
this scene where kevin cosner lets her hold a katana and then he like throws like a silk sheet over it and then it like
slices without her like doing anything and that was just really badass so you heard it here when
you send ninja that's relevant to my interests how is that not like the most memed like gift like that exactly?
I sure give the watch this give this everywhere. What about this?
Yeah, we live in a world of so much fan art where people are like making all the Naruto characters black or something like that
So I think it's time we got some Whitney Houston holding a katana fan art
And if anyone is listening and you got the
artistic capacity tweet at me I'll I'll ban my you 50 bucks I don't care I miss what I miss when
like I miss when like the biggest stars yeah like also acted in and did well like I feel like this
new crop of stars we have uh now probably like lady gaga is the last one uh and
like there's more coming but who are like i'm not saying like the stars aren't acting but like we
used to was okay as an actress i mean yeah a fun fact a lot of people don't know that well maybe
some people do know this but she was originally cast as one of the daughters on the cosby show
or some shit i think oh. Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah.
And then she turned it down and went to music instead,
which was a good idea.
But yeah, man, I miss Whitney Houston.
Are you still talking about Lady Gaga?
I was like, what?
No, no, no, Whitney Houston.
Whitney Houston, sorry.
Lady Gaga was going to be Claire and Cliff Hustle's daughter. Oh,ire and cliff okay no she was gonna be on the cosmic
show she was gonna be their white daughter yeah uh she was also a infant uh but no it's just like
i think that's dope and now and i mean like not just actors who singers who act but like the top
of the echelon like now we have beyonce and i'm sorry
yeah beehive but beyonce is a terrible fucking actress listen it's it's been like it's been
over 10 years since gold member i'm sure she's got some lessons down i don't know man dream girls
came out the gold member and well we got we got hayley in uhermaid. Okay, there we go. We'll see what's up.
We'll see what's up.
Rihanna was very good in everything she was in.
She was just in bad movies.
I guess so.
I just choose not to be a great actor.
Yeah.
She was in Battleship.
Battleship.
She was a great part of Battleship.
But of course, nobody fucking saw that.
No, I didn't see that.
Yeah.
Like, let's get some of these singers like lead roles and see what they can,
and like cheesy rom-coms.
Like, remember The Preacher's Wife with Denzel and Whitney?
Yes.
Terrible movie, but also very fun.
It was so fun loved it what uh what's something you think is overrated rachel the kardashians oh no no no no no no we're about to be fighting let's go
no i'm joking you can you can proceed uh yeah no i i i respect the hustle i mean
they clearly know what they're doing and they're like marketing you know mavens but
they have no talent like actual talent you know it's just they're infamous not famous you know and
uh yeah i just i'm over it you know I was over it a long time ago and yet
the people still keep, keep paying them and signing up and watching the shows and buying the clothes.
Yeah. Not for me. Yeah. What is the, I feel like their talent is like American-ness or like the,
I don't know if they just like really put together all the skill
sets that you needed to be famous at this very specific time and yeah yeah will will they continue
will they continue to be a name that like people recognize 20 years in the future will it like how do people like that who
become famous for something random and don't really have a discernible you know artistic
skill how do they fare over over the course of history i'm trying to think of like other examples
of that i guess we're at like peak they're not that being taken seriously right yeah maybe so i think there's
also like a a disposable nature to the kind of thing where it's get it while the getting's good
and then just that is a flame that will burn out there's like a the the first to see as a as a avid
hulu or who will just take in as much content as physically possible in the first episode of the
new kardashian series which i binged. In the first episode of the new Kardashian series,
which I binged the entire series of, kind of a joke.
New series or new season? What are we talking about?
New series, the Kardashians on Hulu.
It's like Keeping Up with the Kardashians,
but they're just running it back, basically.
They're like, we wanted our own,
we felt like Keeping Up with the Kardashians
didn't have our artistic imprint on it.
Okay.
Yeah, too much Rob in it.
But anyway,
Kris Jenner goes over all the businesses that the Kardashians are like
running and you know,
I could be naive,
but I haven't heard of a single one of them.
And there's something about this kind of like,
let's just kind of get this money train rolling as much as physically
possible.
And then when people stop caring in, I don't know,
five years, six years,
we'll have enough money that we can disappear
off of the face of the earth, and that's totally chill.
It feels like it's a flame that is burning
as hard and fast as possible.
Kind of like a climate change accelerationism kind of thing,
where it's just like, let's just get the going
while the going is good,
and then be out to our bunker in Calabasas.
We'll either flame out or we'll cause the end of the world indirectly.
Something like that.
Yeah.
It's all disposable, whatever it is.
So it's like, you know, clothes, whatever.
Yeah.
Candles.
I don't know what they're making.
I'm just like looking at IMDB, like for Kim, you know.
TV star, entrepreneur, fashion designer and author.
New York Times bestseller.
She is actually one of my favorite writers, but that's prolific.
Yeah.
There was something I like to admit, but she's one of my favorite writers and authors.
Totally.
Wow.
Wow.
This bio just keeps going.
Wow. wow wow this bio just keeps going wow well i guess uh if you build it it will come right oh it's yeah it is yeah okay well it'll be interesting to see because we i don't think
we have a corollary right like we we don't have somebody who was famous for being famous in history that I know of. And maybe we do. And that sort of thing just ages so poorly that nobody gives a shit enough to remember them. But I am curious, like, what that will look like even, like, 40 years from now i feel like these characters exist in literature in different ways where it's
like someone who's who's like fame precedes them and they just you know the story is about kind of
like on some great gatsby shit like they just they just are famous in the in the world of the book
and it's about their descent into self-destruction yeah and something something aging painting in a attic for the kardashian
existence right we'll see i feel like people who are famous for being rich like gatsby don't age
that well like i i just i know that whenever i read something from the 50s or like right i think
actually earlier than that like the 1910s they're like a regular john
d rockefeller over here and i'm like that name i know but like all the other ones i don't and
i also don't give a shit about about like that and it makes you sound like incredibly old like
there's nothing timeless about a famous for being rich person well we also thought that about donald trump for a while so
it does seem like it's all bleeding together now a reality show famous for being rich and
the president maybe our greatest president some are saying and everything and everything that
has like a person's name put on it is just being replaced by a brand anyway.
So it's like your whatever your famous Aster name is or some whatever.
I'm just going real Gilded Age here.
Any of those names are just being replaced by Smoothie King or Mercedes.
So it's like, you know, whatever, whatever famous name you thought would last forever is just being replaced by Build-A-Bear.
So, yeah, you know, those are the three main ones. Smoothie King, Mercedes by Build-A-Bear. And those are the three main ones.
Smoothie King, Mercedes,
Build-A-Bear.
Did you ever watch Entourage when they were doing that sell
of Vinny Chase to every single
agency? It was like, we're trying to get
Vinny Chase in here. Smoothie King,
Mercedes, Build-A-Bear,
Vinny Chase.
Brands recognizable
around the world. You're our Smoothie King, Vinny Chase. Brands recognizable around the world. Your art smoothie king,
Vinny Chase.
He signed with CAA.
Claire, tell us something that's
underrated in your opinion.
I recently
rented a
convertible car
when I was visiting LA.
Highly underrated.
People, I'm going to say everybody should drive around When I was visiting LA, highly underrated. Okay.
I'm going to say everybody should drive around in a convertible at least once in their life.
With the threat of large objects falling off of other cars and hitting you in the head.
It's thrilling.
And it's like, music sounds better.
I don't mean to sound like i'm stoned but it just you know it's just an insane experience and it was i was specifically driving in la i don't know what it's like you
know in like dallas or whatever history shows it's not not a good place to have a convertible but
i would say that it's just so fun i can't speak to being a passenger in the backseat of a convertible.
That seems maybe overrated, but underrated, right?
Driving a convertible in LA.
I just watched Thelma and Louise for the first time like a month ago.
And so I'm catching the vibes.
I love the idea of winning your hair, but I would absolutely have to wear a scarf because
like after half an hour at full speed it would be an issue but there is something about driving
around certain parts of LA specifically pretty much anywhere on the east side you start to feel
way more glamorous and or cool depending on which like if you're in Beverly Hills and you're driving
around in a car that's like clean and semi-nice you're like my god am I wealthy what's happening
over here like I feel very posh and it's amazing or you know if you're like my god am i wealthy what's happening over here like i feel
very posh and it's amazing or you know if you're like in east los angeles and the fashion district
suddenly you're like oh this is where cool kids are and i'm here so therefore i must also be cool
and i can only imagine that a convertible is just really heightening all of those feelings
i'm a convertible you've convinced me you can like put the top up too right like it's not
at some point point putting the top up or else the top of your head will get sunburned
right yeah that's kind of what happened to me that's just i i like to undercut people
who are excited about a thing by tempering it with the practical uh well you can always put
the top up and wear a hat and uh i've never i don't think i've ever driven in a convertible
i think i've only been in a like one of the jeep wranglers when i was in high school that are like
made of paper except for a roll bar and it was like driving on the highway with that person was
a very like violent experience oh no but just just because it's like everything is like you know
flapping so hard they're just it's like yeah just your car is a half tent at that point but i i have seen a lot of people driving around la and presumably rental
cars and that are convertibles and also it seems like generally like 50 plus men have like old
school convertibles that they proudly drive around in and like kind of yeah we'll make eye contact with you as they as they
pull up in their convertible and they did yeah yeah we did we did the head nod and i yeah
the fellow convertible driver yeah all right well i i now have my marching words i'm gonna
i'm gonna drive a convertible before it's too late.
With your amber scorpion tattoo.
Beautiful. Yeah.
I don't know.
What's a good Leo tattoo?
I got to look that up.
I mean.
Get a lion with a crown on its head.
Okay.
King shit.
That definitely matches my energy.
Totally.
Yeah.
Get some blood splatter on the teeth.
Yeah. A lion is just eating and just kind of taking a nap under a tree yeah yeah yeah just like a tired lion yeah all right let's take a quick break
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And we're back. And like we said up top, everybody seems to be coming to the
same conclusion that America is currently having an existential crisis like in in as far as its political systems go the
american people seem to be asking like why do these parties exist like on the one side it's
like mega people being like they why won't they agree with trump but i think the majority is
people being like hey we voted for democrats we've voted for democrats like in in the majority is people being like, hey, we voted for Democrats. We've voted for Democrats,
like in the majority, eight of the last nine elections. But it does feel like there is a
paralysis that is happening with this party. Like what else can we do here? And the answer that the New York Times
seems to have come up with is just doubling down,
blaming extreme leftist politics.
It was like a truly baffling story.
Yeah, the New York Times is,
I think we can all consider the New York Times
to be a conservative rag at this point.
It seems like every week they got some new shit everyone's getting mad about
in their opinion section or elsewhere.
They're just all about the status quo.
It's not a surprise.
I agree with that 100% that they are.
I would even take it i don't really think there's an
there isn't an extreme left because extreme the only extreme left there is is people on the
quote-unquote extreme left just sometimes are equally as fucking annoying as people
like for different fucking reasons uh
you know it's very much because you know white people have gotten a hold of wokeism and their
only way to do anything is to say my way or the highway type shit which you know i i get that
but i would prefer the new york times to be about as conservative as it gets.
So they were open about it.
Yeah.
Well, not, I'm just saying like,
if that is, I want to live in a world where that is,
the New York Times, what they represent is the extreme right.
Because right of that is even worse.
Right of that is even worse, right?
Yeah. And I, you know, that's what's even worse. Yeah, no, it is truly worse. Right. Yeah.
And, you know, that's what we're, you know, because I, you know, everybody, I want progressive.
I want to be I'm in a progressive thing and everything like that.
But I'm not a progressive thing, but I'm not fucking I'm not like dumb and think like the right is going to go away forever.
Like, that's just not a realistic thought.
Right.
No. the right is gonna go away forever like that's just not a realistic thought right no but if we can eradicate what is seemingly taken over and ruling our country apparently with an iron clan
fist with this which is the extreme right then i'm all for that i don't know how we get there but
it's i was i don't want to go off on a tangent or anything i had this uh
viral thread about a week ago uh famous catchphrase by the way i don't want to go
off on a tangent but i had a but i had a viral i wanted to make sure that people
caught the trademark the implications of the trademark in there as you as you said it thank
you so much go go back and let us do the other DZs where I guess there's always a point. And you can drink if you hear me say that. But I was watching this video by this economist who is also this historian. And he was talking about what happens to these empires who are on the top historically.
are on the top historically.
Before, we were like the country with the reserve currency,
which is the most internationally strong currency in the world,
which people trade off.
And because of that, they tend to lend us money,
and we get to kind of determine the policies for a lot of the rest of the world.
Before us, it was the British.
Before the British, it was the French.
Before the French, it was the Dutch. And we forget about the Dutch, but the Dutch invented ships,
and they invented capitalism, and they invented the stock market. And we've seen all of these
empires who were on the top at one point kind of go through these periods where they were at the
top. And those periods lasted for like 100 150 years
and if you look at it historically from even before the dutch where like this the spanish and
like the portuguese like we're kind of we've kind of reached that point where economically our
leaders are just borrowing a lot of money rich people i mean like the divide between the poor
and rich has increased uh rich people are playing the stock market they're you see them investing in
things like gold and stuff because they they think that the market's going to tank because they
borrowed money and all this stuff it's just like um it's on a larger scale it it seems like america's dying i think we're all in this kind of like weird
existential crisis but at the same time i think we're just gonna have to get used to not being
the world's biggest superpower and we're just gonna have to focus on like making our lives
better like like the rights that we fight for are important yeah it's it's not just voting that we have to
do it's like we actually do have to demand change from our leaders who are ineffective and they're
ineffective for a reason it's by design you know yeah yeah but yeah the center is just not it
anymore no yeah like the center isn't in anymore because like i said like the center almost has to become
what we need to be just the right and yeah and and you know it is right because or else i don't
think like because you can't be just you can't it the extreme to the right of the center is too extreme right so any any movement toward that
direction uh the status quo is why we have led to the extreme right status quo we not codifying and
doing things and being like oh it's okay is what has allowed people who for instance have wanted to
control and take away women's rights and women's reproductive
rights and and all the things we see kind of going away because the inaction of the center
is what's allowed them to just kind of keep operating kind of in the shadows and now they're
operating in the fucking light right exactly yeah I remember growing up and thinking like, I can't imagine people being like
openly bigoted as they were like, you know, when we see black and white videos of like the civil
rights movement, I couldn't really picture it. And now it's, it's, it's like commonplace.
It's commonplace. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's people who are younger than me as well, too, which is a really surprising thing.
Yeah.
It's nuts.
And honestly, it's all from like 4chan and stuff.
It's all this stuff I'm very familiar with. there is desperation among people who are coming to this conclusion that we have a political system
that only serves corporations and the police essentially at this point and yeah that you know
that like so so there's anger and discomfort and the way that people deal with that is like looking for something outside of
the status quo and the mainstream that is currently ignoring them and the you know the
four chans of the world are one of the things that is offering a solution it is a horrifying
like you know white supremacist violent ideology but it's also it's there and constant the left
seems to be like struggling as of now to like fully put something together that is like
consistent and coherent like you know we had for a while with sanders, I think part of it is because the left by design is diverse and
egalitarian. And we consist of a lot of different people from a lot of different backgrounds and
the right. And I feel like we see this over and over in history. It's like they value a specific type of lifestyle, which is this white American way, Christian identity that they rally
around and push and try to gather people in. And that's how fascism happens. You wrap people around
one identity and then you blame all their problems on other people and then they stockpile a bunch of guns so yeah it's
kind of a scary place to be in but like at the same time when we when we push democrats and be
like we need to push gun reform right now we need to codify roe and wade right now like the situation
is more desperate than it ever has i mean last week we saw the Supreme Court just push through a bunch of shit.
We saw them push through,
they got rid of some coal regulations
for coal mining and stuff like that.
It just seems like they're doing
every evil thing in the playlist
as fast as possible.
And it's a really pivotal year.
Well, let's talk about another thing
that American capitalism has ruined, and that is email.
So it's just, it's basically like, I don't know.
I want to ask the question, like, what can't capitalism ruin?
Is there anything that is not going to be ruined by capitalism?
Nothing sacred.
Nothing.
Yeah, truly. to be ruined by capitalism nothing sacred nothing yeah truly like so basically the latest development
is that like google was banning was like you know identifying political ads and sending them to spam
filters and a republican by the name of dr ronnie, who you might remember. I think that's Ronnie Jackson.
Jackson.
You might remember as the guy who gave everybody drugs in the White House, like was the dealer for like, I think, both the Obama White House and the Trump White House.
And Dr. Feelgood.
Yeah, he was Dr. Feelgood.
That was his nickname.
And then he think he got drunk and wrecked a government vehicle at a Secret Service going away party.
What a legacy.
That was sick.
But like Trump was like, we want him to head the VA, I think.
And everyone's like, wait, what?
What do you mean?
That guy's like basically your drug dealer.
Why would he head the VA?
He doesn't have any sort of like mass administrative experience.
And then he got drunk.
I think like just part of him was like, oh, man, I'm way over my head.
I better do what old Dr. Ronnie Jacks does when he's in over his head and get drunk and wreck a government
vehicle. And so that was the end of all that. So he was relegated to taking a job as a U.S.
congressman and got elected in 2020, made headlines for claiming that the Omicron variant
was a conspiracy concocted by the Democrats. And he was also noticing that his emails that he kept sending
out to the people he was trying to get to give him money were getting sent to spam. And so he
went on a rant about how Google's Gmail was actively suppressing Republican emails and
sending them to the spam folder, which he claimed was a form of election interference.
And like a North Carolina State University study actually did find Republican emails
were more likely to go to spam folders in Gmail than other services like Outlook.
But it's less a conspiracy and more that republicans send a lot of bad spam like which
which is known like just trump's campaign has sent out emails like mislead using misleading
subject lines that read as a message from friends or family and like subject lines that appear to be an email bounce back notification like just all the
like phishing tactics just go hard as hard as you can to get as much money from these people as you
can but the democrats do this shit too like there was a um i was just gonna say yeah the democrats
just sent out a final notice. May Democrat membership pending. May Democratic membership pending?
I'm sorry. I don't remember signing up in the first place.
You have 17 missed messages to renew your Democratic membership, bro. This is your final notice to renew your membership before tonight's critical end of month deadline.
That is from the Democratic Party.
That's pretty bad.
Yeah, it sucks.
But anyways, they sued Google to be like, you're doing bad stuff.
And Google is like, all right, I don't know, whatever.
Fine.
So basically now they can like apply for it.
It's a bill that seeks to make it illegal for email service providers to automatically put campaign messages into the spam folder.
Pilot program for political parties to bypass bypass spam detection systems.
they are powerful, the Republican Party is able to reach out to Google and get them to let let let them like ruin your inbox. You know, on this, this really feels like kind of a, like a weighing of a
weighing of priorities thing for Google here, because I know we've all seen those like Senate
hearings or whatever, where they're basically grilling is it sundar pichai who's the um ceo of
google basically grilling him on so does my phone know where i am right if i go sit on the other
side is it gonna know that i'm sitting with with my with there are friends on the left over here
and he's like you you have to turn on location services like answer the question and it feels
like this this whole like spam thing i don't think they necessarily or Google necessarily sees it as a problem. Like what you're saying, they're just
like, yeah, fine, whatever, just send your damn emails. It doesn't matter. Because you know,
it all just mixes in with every other email that people are getting. Like,
I every day, I feel like I'm unsubscribing to lists, I didn't even know that I was on.
And then three days later, I'm getting another email from that same thing. And it's like, well, you need it to allow
10 days for that unsubscription to go through. So we'll keep sending you emails for the next 10
days. And it's like, it just keeps piling on to the point where it's like, I have like two or
three emails that I need to check per day, basically. I mean, like, there's more, this is
personal email, work emails are different. But there's, like, three actual personal emails that I need to check a day maximum out of the maybe 30 or 40 that I get.
Right.
And it just, it just, it does not feel like a problem to, I mean, to our email providers.
Yeah.
They don't give a fuck about them.
Because we are not their constituent.
The corporations are their constituent
they're there to keep things moving smoothly and yeah it's it's just bad i feel like it's just
interesting to think about like all the technologies that capitalism has ruined like email was useful
and a great idea for a few years and then it got flooded with spam. And it's just like an arms race between marketers and the technology companies to keep it from making their product unusable.
But then the big technology companies eventually get worn down or they get so successful that they have friends in high places
you know i were i used to work for a website that like made wrote articles list articles that were
full of content and were not like did not have ads that were like following you around and tracking
which direction your eyeball was looking and now like any way it's to the point
that like when i read articles not on just like random websites but on like news articles it's
like they have the most deceptive ads that are like there to trick you into clicking on them
at all costs like even at the cost of continuing to read the article you were there to read. Like it's just it's wild.
It's all broken.
And it's yeah, it's all it just is the evolution of all technologies.
It seems like.
Yeah, definitely.
I feel like I don't know.
I mentioned this on my stream the other day because I feel maybe I'm just really cynical, but I feel like social media
as a whole has changed so very, very much from like when it first started. I feel like I don't
really understand. And I don't think it's just because I'm getting older, because I feel like
that's the immediate like jump to is that, oh, yeah, as you as you get older, social media makes
less sense. But like I've been on social media since its inception. And I just like not i like i don't understand instagram anymore i feel like i don't know what
it wants for me i don't it like i don't know what to to put i'm constantly plagued with ads and
it's half the time it's stuff that's like creepily relevant to me and then the other half it's like
i don't even know why you think i would want to see this. So I don't really feel like I understand how to engage with it.
It's not the same as it was before, if that makes sense.
That's what the best and brightest minds of the past 20 years have been working on,
is making Twitter and, well, I feel like Twitter, like,
is the thing that has saved it is that they suck at marketing.
They do. The ads aren't like ever
relevant and so they're easy to skip but like instagram you know the best and brightest minds
instead of like building our infrastructure rebuilding or fixing u.s infrastructure or
we'll talk about that infrastructure around the country they go into marketing work for these massive you know technology companies and find
ways to market like that's that is the big evolution of the past 20 years is like marketing
has gotten way better for brands not for humans it has taken away away our free will. That minor pesky thing. Good old free will.
I also feel like we're kind of in an arms race of efficiency in that like email used to be good
because it was quick and it was like, I can send you a letter over the internet. But nowadays it's
like you're competing with Slack, with Discord, with text messages about like getting messages
to people. And so there's this like need to make your email so urgent. It's like you're saying,
it's like, you have to sign up now, urgent, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's like email is
quickly losing relevance at all. And it's like these kinds of, I mean, I guess it's interesting
to see. I mean, I will say, you know, I'm typing stop into my phone so often these days from whatever
political text messaging that I'm getting being like, hey, this is Nancy Pelosi, and
we really need to talk.
I'm just like, stop.
But it's like as they look for new venues to kind of like grab your attention in this
kind of like market of instantaneous interaction.
It's like emails really phasing out.
And so I think the spam thing is almost kind of
in that last desperate attempt to hold on
to this kind of archaic technology.
Yeah.
And yeah, just like the last,
I think that's probably also what's happening
is Google is like,
well, nobody fucking uses Gmail anymore.
Sure, fine, have at it, whatever.
We're working on a new
technology where you know in two years we'll be recording this podcast over zoom and nancy pelosi
will join and start she'll join the chat exactly yeah we see we have a really really great thing
in northern ireland i'm i'm not even like I realize again, I sound so cynical, but
in Northern Ireland, we're so behind like businesses are behind politics is behind.
We don't use email here. Like we obviously we use email for like online communication. But I mean,
like our political parties don't use email. They don't use social media. They don't have a website
half the time. They're really really behind it's so weird like
i it's something as simple as like having a um a business that you want like my hairdresser or
my tattoo artist i want to book something and they take all of their bookings through facebook
and i'm like i don't have a facebook anymore i got rid of it a long time ago like can i call you
or email you or something do you have a a website with a contact? No businesses here have that.
And like political parties, I still get just leaflets through my mailbox.
I don't get a digital version of it.
I still get leaflets.
Yeah, yeah.
For sure I get leaflets.
But they also, yeah.
See, I just think they don't know email exists.
I'm not trying to be super, super cynical.
I swear.
I know that that goes against the fact that I'm always arguing with people that yes in fact in northern ireland
we do have the internet and electricity and cars because some people seem to think we don't but
like at the same time businesses and like the as far as the government is concerned it's really
like stuck in the past i don't know why it's bizarre it sounds like you might be leapfrogging
certain technologies like maybe we don't have
email, but then it's like, but we have
the next thing after TikTok
already. We had cell phones
that we call the mobiles, but we had
SMS messaging before the US
did.
Which is really weird because you guys had
pagers, right?
We had pagers.
We didn't have those.
We've had some stuff. We didn't have pagers or anything like that, we we had pagers and we didn't have those right we've had we've had some stuff so we
didn't have pagers or anything like that but we had sms messaging like really really super early
on and i still remember when i met like my online friends in the u.s and i'd be like because i used
live journal or whatever and i'd be talking to them and they didn't have sms messaging or like
they knew of it because it was something that existed, but like it was quite expensive. So they just didn't have it. They, they use their pager instead or whatever. And I always
thought, why is it that like Northern Ireland was ahead of something technologically speaking,
yet we still can't use email? Like, what is that? Yeah. We're definitely doing the leapfrog effect.
Yeah. Well, hey, we'll see what the next technology is that pops up. You could be like,
actually, no, I'm kind of glad that we skipped email for this. Whatever that may be.
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So we got a couple options here.
Senator Lindsey Graham won't comply with the subpoena.
Maybe we can talk about that on yesterday's trending.
COVID seems to be going up.
Well, like the New York Times just published a thing that was like 50 percent of people say we're back to normal.
So, no, I mean, we are not so wishful thinking but i think the big
let's go cern yeah the particle accelerator yeah which they fired it back up july 5th
so down depending on who you ask it either led to the discovery of three subatomic particles
that have never been seen before um which they gave like cute little
penta quirk tetra quirk and i forget what the other one is or if you listen to other people
it is the thing that just threw us all into another dimension so you might want to double
check that the sky is blue the declaration of independence was signed in 1776
and back to the future starred eric stoltz because very good i know it was really starring ben stiller
you move was he did he try out for that uh yes he did yes he did. Amazing tryout. That's so cute. Didn't you know?
I didn't. Yes.
Dan, as our
kind of resident
song, or sorry,
resident science expert,
I don't know, man. My brain
doesn't work. I have some friends in high school that would hear
you call me resident science expert and just
spit their coffee out.
As a resident person who's kind of interested in science stuff.
So the Large Hydron Collada.
Yeah, the Large Pina Collada.
Yes, they fire two high energy particle beams
and they travel close to the speed of light and then collide.
It's like this giant seven mile long ring like track that is
designed to do the thing that you're not supposed to do in ghostbusters where they cross the cross
the paths with across streams yeah thankfully thankfully in uh in in science terms or rather
i shouldn't say in science terms but no sure in science terms the amount of power
that is created the amount of energy that is created is so vastly smaller than the amount
of energy needed to do anything like say collapse a star or create some sort of enormous explosion
or rip in the space time there's a lot of a perception that like what we're trying to do
here is recreate what like a black hole does or like you know fire energy at each other in such a speed that is
just like only perceptible in space and and whatnot but the fact of the matter is it's like
you know a star collapsing on itself to make a black hole you were talking about such an
expenditure of energy that it's there's no there's no amount of resources on our planet that could
create such an amount of power it just simply is it is a total physical impossibility so what is
going on at cern is always fascinating real quick it does sound like you are speaking as somebody
who has done a lot of research into like what it would take to end the world. It sounds pretty expert to me.
Yeah.
Well,
you know,
like it's guys,
it's not going to happen.
All right.
Like,
look,
I've been thinking about a lot of ways to rip through space time to rip the
universe in half is like,
you're going to believe me.
This is small potatoes.
We're not,
we're not anywhere close to what we need.
Okay.
Indeed. If we had about like fifth planets worth of these, okay, then maybe we're talking.
But otherwise, no, I think it's just an awesome way to discover these things.
And to clarify what you're saying earlier, it is a pentaquark and a pair of tetraquarks.
So those are the three particles that we have discovered.
So it's one and two of the other quantum i like my understanding of quantum physics very loose and just i i just
like keep it nice and charming like one of the one of the directions they can spin is like lucky
is not one of the things yes exactly that's good enough for me i'm like all right you sons of
bitches like that doesn't make any sense.
But we'll go with that.
Yeah.
But, you know, I think what's what's what's funny is that, you know, this is kind of the
extension of a meme that came out the very first time they launched up the Large Hadron
Collider, which was like, here's a live camera feed from the Large Hadron Collider.
And it was just like a viral or I mean, a then viral video.
I'm trying to remember the last time or the first time they fired a Large Had they fired a large agent i'm gonna google that while i'm telling you the story i
think thank you very much i appreciate that but it was a video a quote-unquote video feed of just
like a purple hole expanding in the center of it and then one camera gets absorbed and then they go
to a different camera and it gets absorbed people like something like war of the world style like
there is an emergency happening at the large
agent collider right now and thankfully we had the internet at that point and we're able to
you know go guys it's cool this is not i will just point out the last time that they fired this
thing up was between the time that donald trump announced his run for presidency and everybody was like this is a joke and then
the time that he was elected so i'm just saying that the stupidity is is fun to track because the
like the scared fears that people aka i have are are pretty fun a TikToker claimed that last time the collider was activated, they were
all thrown into a new timeline.
So it's very important to
keep your vibrations high.
Don't shoot people.
For the July
weekend would put you at risk
of falling behind if you drank
over the weekend was another thing.
But just keep your
vibrations high because this time they're going to be turning it on moving it much faster
which i kind of love i love the idea it's like yeah they're firing the particles faster this
time so guys mercury is even more in retrograde yeah Watch your butts. Get ready.
It's very silly. Very silly.
I love a misunderstanding of science sometimes.
That's the best
kind. But it's the age of Aquarius.
It is the age of Aquarius.
I like astrology and I can make fun
of myself.
We're all having fun here.
It's entertaining.
Much like fun of myself so hell yeah you know so we're all having fun here it's entertaining yeah but yeah no i mean you know much like much like the uh much like the james webb which we will get information
back on in five days yeah so this is we should check in oh yeah daniel's science corner as it's
we'll be back tm we'll be back this is something you've been kind of keeping an eye on keeping us up on for a while that they sent a big telescope into space
and the pictures are being slowly it's like unusual suspects when the drawing of kaiser
soze is being like slowly put together and facts through that's what's happening with the pictures
of deep space and what what are you hoping to find in these pictures?
I just think significantly clearer pictures
of the planets that surround our,
that are part of our solar system,
deeper looks at, you know,
there's a very famous Hubble picture
that is just kind of like the universe.
And it's just a sea of stars.
And you look at it and it's like,
each one of these little beads of light in here
is its own galaxy. And it was one of those first kind of like breathtaking images of space that's like, oh, shit, it is so vast and so deep, completely beyond our understanding. And if anything, you know, more clarity.
pictures that we'll get of of the other planets in our solar system will be remarkable you'll be getting all sorts of you know phone and laptop backgrounds for for ages to come from super high
res images all right that's all i care about yeah exactly sweet i had a random really geeky thought
you know how like they say perception is reality so it's like you know we look at these planets
and it's like we can't see any life forms but But what if they exist? But because we don't know what they look like, we can't see them.
Bingo.
Bingo.
We are going to see it.
It is taking in all sorts of light, all sorts of radiation.
Like we're going to see shit we have no we have absolutely no idea about.
I mean, like, will we see anything sort of like I don't know if we're going to see anything world changing.
And frankly, if we do see something world changing, there will be a whole campaign similar
to Don't Look Up that's like, you know what?
Don't worry about that.
A, it's not real.
And B, those aliens aren't coming for us, baby.
But like the last time I talked about this on the show, I'm always hoping that we make
quote unquote, the discovery that the Star Trek aliens decide to put the walls down and
say, okay, you guys found it.
You have now discovered that space is much more
vast and active than you thought it was, and we
need to welcome you to the Federation
and save your planet before you all kill
yourselves because your information is
in fact valuable. Your lives do have value.
And yeah, don't
kill yourselves. We're the Federation. I'm
Jean-Luc Picard. Thank you for listening.
And the Republicans are like, fuck you!
Fuck you!
You're not better than us, Picard!
Yeah, exactly.
And they get teleported
Go home, Avatar!
Yeah, exactly.
I like how they're in Boston.
Yeah, for sure they're in Boston.
All of them are in Boston.
Like, Boston will even,
whatever hypothetical reality that is where we finally make contact, All of them are in Boston. once you get to a certain level of technology, you just want to build with other life
forms and create this giant,
beautiful work of
art that is intergalactic
network of civilizations.
And
Boston will still exist when that
happens. And they will be like,
fuck you.
I'm going to fucking shoot the fucking aliens.
Like Harvard experts will be like announcing this.
And there will probably be somebody from Southie in attendance just being like, go fuck yourself, dude.
Go fuck yourself, dude.
For real, dude.
Go fuck yourself.
You think you're better than me?
There was.
All right.
So one thing the jam included
in this story is and he was very quick to dismiss it he said and then there was the apparent human
ritual sacrifice on the grounds of cern presumably to open up the gates of hell it really was filmed
at the cern facility but it was obviously a group of pranksters who snuck in and then it's like a video that looks
straight up like you know da vinci code shit yeah and it like but did they ever like catch the
people like i don't it it feels i don't why are we saying it's so obviously people yeah this feels
like one of those things where a company investigates itself and goes, well, we didn't find any wrongdoing.
Right, exactly.
That is definitely your CEO actually sacrificing somebody who ran away from home.
Like, yeah.
It does feel like the kind of thing that like a bunch of just, I mean, a bunch of nerds would be like, could you imagine?
Did you imagine if people believe this?
And then they make a funny,
a quote unquote funny video and it causes a massive conspiracy?
Yeah, I don't know, man.
There's a I got my eye on you, sir.
There is I can trust you at all, dude.
There is a there's a story about a like an artist at MIT that made Escher stairs. Is everybody familiar with MC Escher,
those famous paintings and images that are impossible staircases or impossible structures
and stuff like that. And this dude made a very well edited convincing video about how he actually
built a set of Escher staircases and invited people to come to MIT to look at it. And the
video is super convincing. But of course, you get there and he's like, No, it obviously not. These are physically impossible things to create. Like,
no, of course, it's not real. And people were so mad. They were like, What do you mean? You made
this whole video about it? He's like, Yeah, as a fucking joke, you idiots. It's physically
impossible. People still for fell for it anyway and were
so mad when they got to the escher stairs and they weren't real it's like yeah guys yeah no
i actually turned my hands into those escher hands that are like drawing the thing but they're also
part of the drawing i actually did that shit that's wild yeah i'm a flock of birds now
flock of two-dimensional birds crazy all right and i'm a flock of birds now. A flock of two-dimensional birds. It's crazy.
All right.
And I'm a Dali painting.
There you go.
There you go.
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Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball.
And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
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