The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 235 (Best of 7/18/22-7/22/22)

Episode Date: July 24, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have
Starting point is 00:00:46 changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti
Starting point is 00:01:02 and I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation,
Starting point is 00:01:22 then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Well, Miles, speaking of starting the week off right, we're thrilled to be joined by a brilliant and talented writer, musician, and podcaster whose work has appeared in Rolling Stone, Spent, Stereo Gum, and who co-hosts the podcast How Did We Get Weird with Vanessa
Starting point is 00:02:41 Baer and Jonah Baer. It's Jonah Baer! Jonah! Hey, guys. How's it going? Good. How are you doing? How are you doing, man?
Starting point is 00:02:49 Good. I mean, just ate tons of caviar for National Caviar Day. Nice. For breakfast. It was great. If I see another egg, I'm going to fucking puke, man. Too much caviar. Too much beluga, man.
Starting point is 00:03:04 You did it. What's that one what's that one uh there's like that one caviar shop in beverly hills that like whenever i walk by i'm like oh petrosian there's like a petrosian caviar like restaurant i'm like what kind like that looks like a place you're advertising that you want to be strong arm robbed when you walk like i can't think of a more like superfluous like endeavor to be like i went to the caviar restaurant today you'd be like okay i'm gonna take your watch people talk about like going places to people watch like that is appointment viewing people watching just going there and
Starting point is 00:03:37 seeing anybody who is strange enough to just go into a caviar restaurant yeah like i didn't know that existed yeah what do you think like the the target demographic for a caviar restaurant yeah like i didn't know that existed yeah what do you think like the the target demographic for a caviar restaurant is like yeah i don't know like you're a lawyer who gets like billionaires off for like war crimes and shit like that kind of vibe i feel like like the bartender at the caviar restaurant has to deal cocaine, right? Like, but it's like not even illegal at that point. It's just like, yeah, it's on the menu. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Yeah. I have a license to deal cocaine at this level. Yeah. It's all medical grade. This is a Petrosian boutique. It's like, oh, right, right, right. Okay. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Like I'm looking at their, they have caviar scrambled eggs. You know how much that dish is? 40 bucks. $36. Caviar salad. Caviar salad is a $42 fucking dollars. Caviar salad. I like how they're closed Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Okay. Just so you know. We don't fuck around on those days we're at thursday through sunday op well that's when the really good shipments come through yeah exactly i feel like there's a lot of people a lot of ascots there i've started noticing that like very rich people at a certain point you get so rich that you then start cosplaying as a very rich person again like you just like lose all self-awareness and you are you you just look incredibly like a rich guy from the 60s like screwball comedy right yeah
Starting point is 00:05:15 and the reviews are fucking frightening like every it's all five stars because i think these are all like aspiring wealthy people like i mean there's really no other place to go for caviar like really really jb from costa mesa truly appointment dining i'm just gonna i might have to go by there this week and just take a couple photos and do like those tiktok videos like hey man what do you do for a living like people in their cars people walking into the petrosian restaurant. I want to go and interview people. Like that needs to be, let's do that. We got to do that.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Just to interview, like nobody's going to agree to be interviewed, but. Yeah, but fuck their, fuck their privacy. Yeah, we'll blur their face for the purposes of the podcast. Jonah, where are you coming to us from? I'm coming to you from Western Massachusetts, the Berkshires. Okay. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Are you from Massachusetts? I'm not from Massachusetts. I'm from Cleveland originally, and then I lived in the New York-Brooklyn area for about 11 years, and I've been out here for maybe five years or so. Oh, nice. Okay. Never met a bad person from Cleveland, I always say.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Oh, yeah? Yeah. a bad person from Cleveland. I always say, Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, they're almost all good. You said that like it was a challenge. Let me introduce you to a couple of people. You know, I had this weird flashback when I got my license in New York, I had an Ohio license. I remember going to DMV and the, and I had all my paperwork ready. And the person working there was like, Ohio people, they always got it down. Like they always got the paperwork ready. He was like, I don't have to wait. I don't know if that's an Ohio thing, but that's another thing. But yeah, maybe the filter of Ohio people that moved to New York.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Yes. Like, different level of motivation. Or like, I didn't come this way to fuck up this DMV appointment. Like, I left Ohio for this. And that is the same filter I'm dealing with. Because I'm not meeting too many Cleveland people in Cleveland. I'm meeting a lot of people who left Cleveland. Yes. But yeah, I feel like everyone's consistent. Like I feel like all the people we talk to that are from Cleveland, like, no, yeah, no, it's people are chill. Yeah. Usually people will be
Starting point is 00:07:16 like, oh, yeah, let me introduce you to my high school bully. But yeah, I don't know. Seems it seems like a solid place it's a good spot it's a good spot yeah yeah see look at this it's a good spot nobody says that about their hometown good opinion uh how are the berkshires beautiful it's really nice here in the summer there's a lot of nature a lot of trees a lot of you know art and culture i mean i really like not living in a city and i really like being out here and uh yeah it's really beautiful nice sounds amazing have you have either you been out this way before i've been to massachusetts when i was younger i played a lot of hockey but it was
Starting point is 00:07:57 mostly like playing in and around like the boston area okay so i'm less less versed in the outer areas of massachusetts or outside of Boston. Yeah. I went to high school for two years in Boston. Before we started recording, we were talking about how it's a bad idea to ever give high school students the freedom of living in a dorm. I was doing that in Massachusetts, but I didn't get out to the Berkshires that much other than like once or twice. But it did seem very pretty out there. It is. And I did kind of that dorm thing, too.
Starting point is 00:08:32 When I was 17, I did a five-week guitar program at Berklee College of Music in Boston. So I had that high school kid dorm experience in Boston as well. A lot of prank phone calls going on. With all the guitar guitar it was it was a lot of guitar it was a lot of kids in practice rooms trying to play jazz or play really fast like shredding guitar right right right that was more the vibe right a lot of practice like when you watch kids go from like i like jazz guitar to being like i fuck with dream theater actually that's where i'm headed now a lot of people had the dream theater signature ibanez guitar for sure right right exactly that's where i'm headed now a lot of people had the dream theater signature ibanez guitar for sure right right exactly that's what i feel like there's always like that fork in there i grew up
Starting point is 00:09:08 a big music nerd kid as well i'm like i always watch like the guitar kids be like getting into flamenco like shredder ripping metal or being like i'm like 5d chess brain prog rock shit uh i don't know what any of that means, but it sounds great. What is something from your search history? Well, obviously, being very topical,
Starting point is 00:09:36 I was searching this morning, J-Lo and Ben Affleck's wedding. Yes. I can't believe it happened. I felt like, is this the most interesting thing about my personality? Is anyone going to glean anything about, you know, the mystery that I shroud myself in as Greta Teitelman? You know, no, but it's important nonetheless. And I think it's something that the Daily Zeitgeist, you know, it is in the Daily Zeitgeist. It's very important,
Starting point is 00:10:03 big piece of pop culture and she confirmed that she changed her name to jennifer lynn affleck no that's wild right like that is what an amazing yeah a wild swing she's now just jaffleck she's jafflek. Oh my God. The branding. She's going to get a duck to quack Jaflek. Jaflek. Yeah. Wow. Wait, so her middle name is Lynn? Her middle name is Lynn.
Starting point is 00:10:34 She was always Jennifer Lynn Lopez. Right. But now she's Jennifer Lynn Afleck. And to me, I was really taken aback. I was like, oh damn. She took the last name. I don't have Abe's last name. I love Abe, but I'm like, uh, damn, she took the last name. Like, I don't have Abe's last name. I love Abe, but I'm like, uh-uh, honey, I'm not taking anybody's last name.
Starting point is 00:10:50 The paperwork alone, I don't want to deal with. I got a good thing going with this, yeah. Like, I need all new everything cards? No. No, no. Social security? You're out of your mind. No, no.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I mean, I guess she's not really dealing with that. She has, like, a team of people that are executing on that for her. But still, it's like she never became, you know, she's been J-Lo for so long. I mean, she still will be J-Lo forever. But now she's Jaflek. I hope. I mean, I hope that's a signal that this is enduring. That this isn't some flash in the pan thing.
Starting point is 00:11:21 That this is like for her, it's like to show, yo, like, I really feel good about this man with the Phoenix tattoo on his back. I think that I think that they are like really legit in love. I really do. I feel like to come back around 20 years later, like there's something there. Oh, you know, and for like, and they've been through a lot, too. Like they've had their. And they've been through a lot, too. Like, they've had their share of, like, shitty, like, marriages.
Starting point is 00:11:56 So I feel like, yeah, it does feel like that thing where it's, like, in a rom-com where they have to go through, like, the other dating scenarios to be like, you know what? In the end, it was all about this one. Yeah. Me and Jaflek. And also the sign of a true icon and media genius that is the thing that could I would not have noticed this
Starting point is 00:12:13 story had it not been for her actually taking his name, which was, even though it's the traditional thing, was the most unexpected thing she could have done. It seems so strange that she would take his last name. She's like a bigger star than he is by kind of a lot. I like how we have like this Game of Thrones, like, conception of this marriage.
Starting point is 00:12:34 You're like, she would sully her name with House Affleck? Well, because, you know, when you become an icon of that status, you are your name. Like, there are very few people. It's literally like Cher, Beyonce, J-Lo. It's like Prince. There are very few people that are singular in their name. And then to, like, change it, it's, you know, whatever. I guess not many people are, calling her jennifer lopez
Starting point is 00:13:06 necessarily they're calling her j-lo so like that that is still there that's a good point yeah so in a way maybe it's cowardly it's like you know what until you start going by jennifer affleck in public it's meaningless when i saw jennifer affleck i thought it was jennifer garner i was like wait jenn Jennifer Garner changed her name back then? See, I don't even think Jennifer Garner changed her name to Jennifer Affleck. That would be wild, though, if he was going around just creating Jennifer Affleck. Collecting gens, that's his kink. He's like, I will turn every Jennifer in the United States into Jennifer Affleck.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Hey, Janet, you ever think about changing your name to Jennifer? No, it's not my name. All right, just think about it. Why did you ask me that? It's over. You're asking me that, Ben. I was going to say something and then I forgot about names. And that was really dumb.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And I don't know why I said I was going to say something and then I forgot. Keeping in her brand. She should go by Jennifer Affleck and not J-Lo. Otherwise, she's not me. Ben Affleck. Beyonce. I don't know. I don't know what I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:14:07 but I mean, here's what I will say. When Kim Kardashian West changed her name back to Kim Kardashian, what a branding nightmare. She had built like KKW beauty and all these other things. And then she's has since relaunched everything else but it's kind of like it's hard it's hard to counterpoint it's like when you know an athlete can change their their jersey number and just sell more jerseys because they're like oh yeah i'm this new number
Starting point is 00:14:37 now and people like fuck well now i gotta buy this version i remembered what i was gonna say when mariah carey married nick cannon and nick cannon got mariah tattooed from literally shoulder to shoulder across his back and she got mc tattooed on her wrist for her new initials even though they were the same as her old initials oh i don't know that is perfect that. That's the hack right there. 100% Mariah Carey. Delivering full Mariah Carey. Oh, that's so nice, honey.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Here's what I did. I got one too. But those are your initials. Yeah. Mariah Cannon, right? And I'd like you to write my vowels as well as yours. Thank you. That's the vibes I'm getting from that. What is something you think is underrated? Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Maternity leave. We are trying to have a little Zara. Okay. Specifically. A little Z? Yeah. A couple little Zs. Okay. Specifically. Little Z? Yeah. Couple little Z's. Okay. It has been a journey.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Last time I saw y'all, I didn't know that I had had two out of three miscarriages. Oh my god. I'm sorry. That I would then come to have. Thank you. Yeah. That's why I was
Starting point is 00:16:04 depressed. I didn't Yeah. That's why I was depressed. I didn't know because it just I just had like the hormone dump. Right. And I felt horrendous and I didn't know what was wrong with me. And I just thought I had like a regular periods and shit. And I was like, I don't know what my problem is. And I was being so mean to myself. And then I find this out and i'm like yo and uh and so it's been this journey trying to figure it out because i also have thyroid
Starting point is 00:16:33 disease and that complicates pregnancy and like my whole life i thought 40 year old me could handle everything and i pushed everything into the future basket of 40 year old Zara. Right. She'll deal with that. When I was in my 30s, ambivalent about corporate job, 40 year old Zara's got this. Ambivalent about kids, 40 year old Zara's got this. Ambivalent about moving to LA, 40 year old Zara's got this. Right. It gets easier. 40 year olds are as good right like it gets easier and uh most i realized most of my putting it off was because i never was in a job with real maternity leave that i could like rely on to take care of myself you know it's just like something we take for granted right it's just so for great and when i was coming coming on, I was like, what's my underrated going to be?
Starting point is 00:17:27 Like, how am I going to frame this? You know, and I was like, everybody just have kids as soon as you can. Don't wait. Figure it out later. Don't leave it to 40 year old self. No, you're never going to have more downtime than high school folks. Listen, high school summer. Just plan it for a high school summer. Just plan it for a high school summer.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah. Yeah. And then I was like, no, you know what it is. In my 30s, I didn't have any kind of infrastructural support to make those choices. Right. Yeah. I mean, there's so much. There are so many factors like that when most people are like, I don't know if I'm going to have kids. Like, wait, I've actually been too poor to have a kid in a way that I think wouldn't make
Starting point is 00:18:09 me feel super stressed out about like sustaining another life form. Plus, do you have you like given your energy to like an employer who is like, I will give you the humane things you need? You know, it's like a balancing act of all those things. Right. And I think we have to know that we're not entitled to any kind of alien ship abduction hero rescue.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Right. We gotta do that mothership rescue at our jobs. Gotta mothership rescue ourselves. We gotta, like, we have to turn the places that we're in. We have to turn them around. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Well, I mean, yeah, that's why it's always amazing to see again when people always the ignorant Americans like we're the number one. You're like not like we're pretty much at the back of the line for everything. And like when you look at parental leave, it's. Yeah like oh i think oh that makes sense we live in like the grossest place but we just have the cheapest consumer goods oh my god some of my family moved to london because they can do that they were like we're out of here they're a mixed race black and Persian and like half of it was
Starting point is 00:19:30 to settle the question of like private school public school charter school because they wanted the arts for their daughters they moved to London and it's all included it's all included like their expenses their monthly expenses in the Bay Area were like They moved to London and it's all included. Right. It's all included.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Like their expenses, their monthly expenses in the Bay Area were like $4,000 for rent, $5,000 tuition. Yeah. Yeah. Insane. How? How can we? Fine. And then battle racism on top of that.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Like, come on. A little flat screen tv flat screen tvs are very viable flat screen you get that but also everywhere yeah you can get that everywhere it's just like when compared to previous generations that's the one thing that is better is yeah consumer electronics someone tweeted something it's like it i forget who it was i just had laughed but they were like it's they're like it's wild to me that you can buy a flat screen TV for $300, but for the same amount of money, you will get the shittiest dresser or table. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like, that's so true. The level of craftsmanship, especially with furniture, because we use so much board and like not real solid wood and shit like that
Starting point is 00:20:45 just to like have cheap quick furniture uh yeah different yeah you gotta buy from previous generations oh yeah that's what i'm like yeah when you look at like vintage furniture like no it's not because i like the looks like look this shit will fucking go forever right also i have to say that's what I call my husband. Babe. There you go. Cheap furniture. Cheap furniture. There it is.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Yeah, I was noticing behind you, and we're on Zoom, but behind you, you are using your husband as a coat rack. Is he just standing completely still? Oh, my goodness. Calm down. Just his skin. Okay. All right. Got it.
Starting point is 00:21:29 All right. my goodness calm down just his skin okay all right got it all right let's see if you can work snorting into your overrated as well because you're two for two so far we got the snorting the antivirals we got the coke with the with the back of the house boys what is something you think is overrated um what's overrated you know what's overrated doing drugs yes doing drugs is overrated i just hate hangovers now literally the thing that keeps me from doing drugs is like i don't want to be hung over tomorrow yeah what kind of drugs you doing what does that mean wait Wait, more than drinking? Like a drinking hangover? Like, then, like, you know, I won't say what's up.
Starting point is 00:22:09 It's like maybe things that are, you know, fucking up your serotonin levels and shit. And then the next day you're like, ugh. Yeah. No, well, because all of them mess up, you know, fucking your serotonin, you know. Yeah. They're all, you know, messing with the chemicals in your brain. Hey, that's why, you know, a little bit of psilocybin goes a long way. But, you know, that's another five minutes we're doing.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Oh, okay. I get the thing with the hangovers because my body cannot process alcohol the same way it does. No, it's crazy. Like, and I, it's weird. Like, I have a thing where for me to even get to the point where I'm, like, feeling buzzed. Like, it typically, like, I realize, like, three drinks too late that I'm like, Oh, you've had enough to drink because you're good. Yeah. And then the next day, like my, I remember like the days when I would like sleep four hours, stink, like a broken handle of vodka and then roll into my like Dodge car dealership job,
Starting point is 00:23:01 like with sunglasses on and managed to work like 10 hours like it was nothing. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Working retail. Literally, I my God, I worked Black Friday at Banana Republic the day after Thanksgiving, right? I woke up so I think I was still I'm sure it was still drunk the night before. I showed up like three hours late. My boss was so mad, but like couldn't do anything about it because the store was packed with people. It was just like, you just do something like pick up clothes and help.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Right. And all day, like at work, like every now and then I'd get like a whiff of vomit. And I was like, where is that coming from? When I got home, it was like on a specific part of my top.
Starting point is 00:23:50 You know what I mean? It wasn't like prominent, but it was there and present where it was like, not all the time, but every so often I'd get just the right, you know, distance from it.
Starting point is 00:24:02 So yeah, I used to be able to do that. Be fine. Not now. Like I can't even watch the rock hung over on tnt like i used to like i can't even that doesn't even work for me yeah i haven't watched enough i like i haven't drank in seven years and i are coming up on seven years and i congratulations thank you but prior to that first of all my intake of tnt and just like also television commercials with like has gone way plummeted way down because now i'm never you're like no characters welcome i'm never so hung over that i can't just press the fast forward button you know but prior prior to that i i felt i feel like i know what terminal illness
Starting point is 00:24:48 feels like some of the hangovers that i've that i've you know gone through yeah just the worst the worst feeling yeah like being so hung over that you can't even enjoy an episode of law and order svu that's bad yeah in a dark place like where you're anticipating like the sound because it hurts you physically yeah like it's gonna make me sick when i hear it this time oh no not that yeah yeah i think that's right drugs are great good all right let's take a quick break we'll be back and and we'll talk about drugs because that's become an area of focus, among other things, with the two candidates we might be facing. Biden is on drugs, maybe. Not the right kind. Not the uppers. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Trump is definitely on drugs, but they seem to be, I don't know, working for him. So we'll take a break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
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Starting point is 00:27:54 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys.
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Starting point is 00:29:53 you get your podcasts and we're back and about a month ago, San Francisco ousted a progressive district attorney, Chesa Boudin. Chesa Boudin. I always want to pronounce his name like he's like I am suddenly Cajun. But yeah, no, it's Boudin. I'm just saying if you want to get, you know, if you want to go down the buskios with it, then that's that sausage they call Boudin. Boudin boudin anyways i remember seeing the the right-wing media slash a lot of the mainstream media the day after he was ousted in a like recall just like loving it just loving to tell the story of like this guy lost the city
Starting point is 00:30:41 he's he's a you know he's a mess mess. The city's a mess. They've just like crime is out of control. And then finding a handful of people who actually were looking at the statistics and were like, actually, it was just suddenly the mainstream media really started focusing on every crime that happened in San Francisco when this progressive district attorney came into office. And the crime was statistically not up in any way beyond what you would expect from, you know, the economy and the pandemic. But anyways, we are now at the afterlife of that event. And the DA who's been brought in, less progressive, I guess we could say. Yeah. Well, I mean, this is the thing we've talked about, right?
Starting point is 00:31:29 Like there was all this hand-wringing and pearl-clutching, like the crime's out of control. But again, criminologists and people whose business it is to look at those things are like, the three years that Boudin served as a DA, there were actually declining or stable rates of like many crimes like you know homicide and things like that but like you're saying the the fix was on when like the moneyed you know property owning people of san francisco are like let's get this guy out because he's being a little too humane with his you know sense of justice so they got once he's been out it ousted it It's time for the new regime to come
Starting point is 00:32:07 in. There's a new D.A. that's come in. And now the D.A.'s office has purged all of, you know, Boudin's old staff. And oh, man, the alternative that is being proposed isn't just like about slightly tweaking, like minimum sentences or things like this. They're talking about mass surveillance. Let me just read this from the Daily Beast. It says, quote, under the latest policy proposed by a newly emboldened police department and backed by Mayor London Breed in the new DA's office, cops would be able to watch residents in real time during a, quote, significant event with public safety concerns as part of, quote, investigations relating to both active misdemeanors as well as felonies.
Starting point is 00:32:48 The cameras available for access would include those with a variety of both low and high level capabilities. Everything from commercial to private doorbell cameras could ultimately be employed to keep tabs on possible crimes. So and that's without like granting access like that that's without them coming and being like hey can we use your doorbell they just have access that would be like a policy that i think the police department would decide if an event is arising to the quote significant event with public safety concerns but like if it's a misdemeanor but active public say like what are we saying what are the definitions here and i think what's really interesting is this is how quickly you can go from having a progressive DA to full-blown surveillance state, right? Like supporters of this new policy talk about how this will help the cops
Starting point is 00:33:35 curb the chaos of drug deals and robberies. And that's all bullshit. Like if, are they, are they proposing like a crime prevention thing where people are monitoring every single camera in real time no if anything they're talking about so they have evidence where a lot of this footage can be accessed after the fact so it's not like spying on everyone's fucking ring camera is going to be the new method of policing and i think this is again we're already living in a time where our privacy is under tremendous threat and you look at what's happening with dob's decision and the overturning of Roe. Like privacy is a huge issue.
Starting point is 00:34:09 And we're already seeing how quickly even in like how the media would say seemingly liberal places can go to this full blown like, yeah, yeah, let's just let's just fuck with people's civil liberties real quick. That might be the better option here. Let's just let's just fuck with people's civil liberties real quick. That might be the better option here. Well, yeah, I mean, the city of San Francisco has been in really deep doo doo for a long time with like wealth inequality. And like this is like this did not happen overnight. Like San Francisco has had like a huge problem with the unhoused population and with drugs and with, of course, with robbery. unhoused population and with drugs and with, of course, with robbery. And it's like we're, the police answer is always treating the symptom and not going to the source of the problem of like, why is there not affordable housing? And why are these poor people not lacking so much community
Starting point is 00:35:01 and connection that they're getting addicted to drugs? And, you know, it's just police is always the answer in this country. Well, and I think that's the most fucked up part, right? Because I'm so tired of hearing about policies and technology that, quote, will make policing easier. That's like the biggest red flag like you could ask for. Yeah. Policing in this country. They said that about body cams. They said that about body cams. And how has that worked out? Well, yeah, you can wait a few months or maybe, oh, whoops, I didn't have it on that time. But I think what we do know is that policing in this country is unequivocally a failed experiment. And we ignore new approaches to community safety at our own peril. Like the trajectory we are on will eventually lead to you cannot leave your domicile unless
Starting point is 00:35:47 it is for authorized activity in order to ensure the community's safety type shit. Yeah. Yeah. And I would also challenge that to say, like, it really wasn't an experiment like that. Policing in this country has always been to protect wealth and to protect property. Yeah. I use that in a very charitable way to say, OK, you're done with this bullshit. Like how many times do you need to see it absolutely fail in your face to be like, this is not a good thing or working.
Starting point is 00:36:18 And, you know, like to your point as well, Kirsten, it's like we're not talking about what the root cause is. Right. Because so much crime like the news likes to sensationalize, there's so much shit that's just survival crime, you know, people needing ways to make money, to support themselves in a family because they have been completely excluded from the traditional economy based on, you know, class, race, gender identity, what have you. And if we're going to actually slow quote unquote crime, we need to address the needs of people. It's proven over and over again what social safety nets can do to help stabilize people's lives. So people commit crimes because they are in need much of the time
Starting point is 00:36:59 and not because we don't have enough fucking ring cameras that police can fucking hack into. Exactly. The police are basically especially in san francisco they are private security for like real estate millionaires and la too you know tech billionaires essentially and corporations i mean you know i mean the whole like CVS thing I have one of my best friends lives in San Francisco and she's like you literally can't find a drugstore like there are no drugs because
Starting point is 00:37:32 CVS is deciding as a company to close their stores because of the loss of inventory and then the city's answer even that is actually a myth that they were pushing because they were actually running at a loss on their rentals, like for the for the locations they used to rent places. And they had like actually articulated a plan to begin phasing out stores because they weren't just they weren't bringing in enough revenue to justify the property rental cost. and they were able to then loop in this the theft ring into like sort of give give this whole
Starting point is 00:38:06 narrative even more legs to be like dude cvs can't even operate here anymore when a lot of journalists are like hold on there was an earnings call six months ago where they talked about how this was a very bad market for them and they needed to rethink their strategy here so like that's what's like wild too is there's so many seemingly good faith explanations for things that are happening. But many of them are still tied up in like this, you know, manufacturing consent for this new way of keeping people safe by being like, yeah, we're going to tap into cameras just like they did in the summer of 2020, which I think a lot of people don't talk about either. won't talk about either where many activists are saying dude they're fucking tapping into like cameras when people are exercising their right to protest and that's having a chilling effect on our ability to organize things so there's like so much shit that so much multi-layer shit happening with like they can just take one sort of really sensational bit of video and take us to this point
Starting point is 00:39:01 i feel like yeah and if you want to see like, there's a conspiracy at work with the mainstream media, or at least the mainstream media is heavily influenced by wealth. And like, look, look at that story about CVS and like why they're closing their doors. And the real the real reason is that the rent is too high, that every everything costs too much. Prices are out of control particularly in you know with regards to rent in san francisco jesus christ and that like that is a that is a story that everyone can identify with that is a story that needs to be told that people are telling in movies and people are telling but in the mainstream media they chose to take like ignore the fact that cbs couldn't even pay their fucking rent and go with it's these handful of unhoused people
Starting point is 00:39:53 shoplifting and like they they've made it so they can't even like keep shit on the shelf anymore which again the fact like it there is brutal inequality in San Francisco. It's not like those crimes were were not happening. But the fact that the the runaway story that became like a national media phenomenon became about shoplifting instead of like a story that is like desperately crying out to be told. Ezra Klein, who's like really smart for usually like half of his articles. He like, I think he started with Vox and now he's at the New York Times. And he's like, he almost got there in this article where he's talking about how like prices are the main story in the United States. The fact that prices are completely out of control and that there are things that the government could be doing to hem them in and make it so the corporations aren't able to just raise prices as much as they want or, you know, landlords aren't able to. And they're choosing not to do that. And then he, you know, proposed a bunch of like means tested shit at the end. But
Starting point is 00:41:05 he was almost there. It was almost like, yeah, so what what do we do about that? We need to have a government maybe that isn't completely and 100 percent of the time beholden to corporations and wealth only. But yeah, that yeah, it's wild. It's truly criminal. I mean, we just had an article come out from the New York Times that the average New York City rent is now $5,000. And that's, I mean, it's laughable. It's just, it's truly mind boggling. I mean, we have like a housing crisis. People are waiting in lines around the block just to see a shitty apartment on the Lower East Side because it's $2,000. Right. And even that is so high for the average person.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Right. Yeah. And I think and again, it's because America hate like the media hates to really like examine what the real issues that are harming this country are. We're not talking about it in a way of like, okay, the average, the fucking average is $5,000. Most people are raised to be like, hey, you don't want to spend more than a third of your monthly income on rent. So if this person, this magical person who can afford $5,000 a month rent, they're making what? $15,000 net? Yeah. Who is this person? $180,000 a year take home. Right. That's your net. So where is this? Because most people who would hear this right now would be like, who, why, and how many people like this are there? I mean, there are plenty of people who can afford that,
Starting point is 00:42:46 but that's not what the average person can afford. And I think when we do these things and just scapegoat the poor for being like, oh, this chaos, man, CVS is fucking up because these poor people are stealing things rather than shit is so expensive and people are so desperate. Look at what it's doing to society right now.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Look at that. Yes. But it's easier to just say oh god this this da man he's a real he's a real loser huh because everything's out of control because no one can afford anything oh right yeah yeah yikes yikes yikes that is right. And this is our annual. I just I'm trying to figure out what your salary would have to be to pull in 180 after taxes. And I just did $250,000. And that brings you to $162,000. So you wouldn't even if you made $250,000 a year, you wouldn't even be able to afford rent in average rent. Yeah. If you made a quarter of a million dollars a year, you could not live comfortably in New York City. Right. Even if you're living by that rule, because we know most people are spending 60% of their income on rent. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:02 Oh, absolutely. Spending way more than a third of my income on my rent. Everyone is so strapped. But again, when the people who report the news are people who are not strapped and have never been strapped and will never be strapped for cash. You have to be making around $290,000, almost $300,000 a year to afford rent
Starting point is 00:44:24 and to afford average rent, which is not how things work. But that's, I mean, that's what was cool about this Ezra Klein thing. It was like, holy shit, did they just find out about this in the New York Times? Home price in 1950 was 2.2 times the average annual income by 2020 was six times. Childcare costs grew by about 2000 percent between 1972 and 2007. Family premiums for employer based health insurance jumped by 47 percent just between 2011 and 2021. Deductibles out of pocket costs went up 70 percent like that does that that's in 10 years and it like you're the amount we're paying on for health insurance let alone like companies is went up 70 percent this is when we're supposed to be like getting state sponsored health care and then between 1980 and 2018 the average cost of an undergraduate education rose by 169%. And so everybody is in debt, is in massive debt. And like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:45:35 like what we were just talking about with being able to pay your rent, like everybody is in debt and they are like, well, why is, why is there a crime? Why? Why are people unhappy with the Democratic Party? And it's like, well, I don't know, man. is two and one is like six months. And they had a dual income, both he and his wife were working and, you know, doing pretty well. Like, you know, they had a good upper middle class income for a family of four. And just to consider her going back to work and then having to put them in daycare, they were looking at $4,000 a month in daycare costs. Yeah. So essentially, like for most people, that's like you would only be working to pay the daycare. So how does it make sense to work?
Starting point is 00:46:37 Like it's. It makes sense if she's going back. I mean, that offsets assuming she's making, you know, one to one point five million dollars a year. That's exactly easy. Yeah. Yeah. As a as a special education teacher. That's about the average of what they're making.
Starting point is 00:46:55 What could a special education teacher make? Michael, one one point five million dollars a year. Yeah. Holy moly. So it's like, how do we God like how do we circle that square my goodness well and i think that's what we at every at every turn like we people who are in these places positions of power and it's hard for them to abandon the status quo but like the the previous ways of thinking are not applicable and in fact in fact, they're harmful at this point.
Starting point is 00:47:26 And the challenge is to have the imagination to do things differently because we're not in the same fucking realities that we are. And I think that's what's so frustrating. My favorite philosopher said, think different. Steve Jobs, have you read his work? You read his work? It's the only philosophy we teach our kids is, you know, Baja blasts for breakfast and just add copy. Add copy for lunch.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Exactly. Love it. Hustle for dinner. Yeah, and you hustle. You get out there. You get on your grind, sir. Yes. Love it. Super healthy.
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Starting point is 00:52:32 it's the story that like is number one on your like list of just like ballot initiatives like things that you are concerned about yes like well and also the thing that most frequently is i gang tags me in on Twitter and Instagram. If anything is happening with Subway Tuna, either I have my supporters who are like, they can't hold us down, or I have people being like, is this your king? You ride for Subway Tuna.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Oh, yeah. It's so good. Till the fucking fins come off, okay? Honey wheat. Oh, wow. I've never had a honey wheat. Okay. Oh, wow. I've never had any wheat. Okay. I've always,
Starting point is 00:53:07 I look, I'm, I'm like, I've always had it just shoveling it into my house, my mouth with my hands. You just say no bread. Exactly. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:53:16 yo, just give me the bag. Just give me the bag. And then you say, I take a little sun chip on the side. I'll take a little French onion sun chip. Yeah. Perfect. And a moose boosh is what we call it delicious delicious but yeah people know i love the subway tune i love all
Starting point is 00:53:31 i love tuna sandwiches i grew up eating tuna sandwiches as a kid so like when i had like that little moment where i had like a little bit of pocket money as like a pre-teen and like on my bike and like you could go to subway that was like me feeling like an adult i'm like i have experience with tuna sandwich and i will now i will now order this rather than being like mom what do i like here so i have like this this connection with the subway tuna now people know briefcase i'm just picturing little miles riding his bike carrying a briefcase just dripping out of the briefcase all All my Subway tuna in there. A little like wet mayo drip. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:06 A little condensation. Oh man. Remember the old wrapping paper that they used to have? Yes. Like old Victorian drawings of like the early New York Subway. Yeah. Yes. From our real heads when they were doing the U gouge and cutting the U shaped like hole
Starting point is 00:54:20 out the top and then not down the side. I totally forgot about that. Wait, I forgot about that. What? The U gouge okay so if you if you look now people be cut they take the bread and they just slice it down the side and open the way normal people back in the day they used to cut around they would like lay it like this and cut around the tops so it was gouged out in a u shape treat it like a giant bread bowl i forgot about about that too. Remember the little top? If they weren't a real artist with it, the top would be mad thick.
Starting point is 00:54:51 It would just be soaked in two seconds. All that to say is... The U-Gouge. I remember those knives really well. It was like pumpkin carving knives. 100%. This lawsuit hit like
Starting point is 00:55:06 like about a year ago it's like where these people were alleging subway is fucking lying there is no tuna we took it to get dna tested they said this what the fuck is this is what the lab results said and the story came back in the news because a judge basically i think subway was like hey man like let's just call it a day oh We don't need to let this trial move forward. The judge is like, no, like we will hear more in the trial of is this fake tuna or not. So the most headlines I've gotten in years. Yeah, truly. The most important court case I'll ever have.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Right. Exactly. He's like, I'll allow it. So the takeout, shout out to the takeout. They're looking at sort of just generally, they're like you know they're they're giving us some insight into how this sort of analysis or like why the murky tuna thing even occurs so the way they they talk about is subway says that they are they got like most of their tuna skipjack tuna and it's 100 sustainable etc etc the takeout talks about how like they're the most sustainable version of catching tuna is like pole in line like individual fucking fishermen catching one motherfucking fish at a time and they're like that's fucking tuna but a lot of places most places don't do it like that they
Starting point is 00:56:15 use another process where they'll like surround a school of targeted fish that they're trying to harvest and just drop a big ass net around them and just scoop out a bunch of the fucking ocean at once yeah finding nemo and finding nemo style yeah in this process though this leads to other kinds of seafood being in the hall like sharks and turtles and like other shit and they said that could that could that could apparently be leading to this process as to why it's not saying that it's a 100% tuna. And this is apparently an issue that goes beyond Subway. Like, a lot of tuna is mislabeled, apparently. I did not know this.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Okay, wait. Now that we just brought up turtles, this is making me feel really crazy. Yeah, this does not make it better, Miles. I don't know. You brought this forth as evidence of like, so this explains it. We eat turtles in Japan, you know?
Starting point is 00:57:11 Was this supposed to make us feel better because we're like, oh, sure. It's just other animals. It's just rocks and turtles. Oh, it's like yoga mat or whatever they put in Wonder Bread. Some people were saying there was pork in it and they're like no there's no fucking pork in this it's if anything it's a bunch of ground-up
Starting point is 00:57:31 turtle and sharks you don't know what's in the middle of that that uh school of tuna you know there could be a there could be a pig in there frankly who knows what the fish are eating anyway they could be eating some fucking soprasada down in the ocean for all we know and then a little bit of pig is inside of them like everything is so fucked they could be eating yoga mats too that are just washed out to sea and they're like no the only reason it's coming up is yoga mat because the amount of fucking microplastics that are in everything now and that's another issue burger dogs we have we have shark tuna tuna turtle yeah exactly this episode is not making anyone hungry look all i'm saying the only like i didn't bring this up to say look to each their own i like i said i don't
Starting point is 00:58:17 look i are you gonna keep eating subway tuna yeah be real yes i'm being real it's taken a lot for miles not to respond to that like uh samuel jackson and a time to kill and say hell yes i'm gonna keep eating it hell yeah they deserve to die and i hope they remember do you remember in like the 90s when everyone was like don't eat wendy's chili there are there are like fingers that get cut off in it do you remember that yes lore around like people finding band-aids and fingers and all this shit in wendy's chili i just i want to point out to people so if you might be like you'll never catch me slipping eating no fucking subway tuna well guess what It ain't just canned tuna. OK, in the Atlantic about like nine years ago, they were there did a story about how this nonprofit group had conducted like genetic tests on over like twelve hundred samples of fish in the US.
Starting point is 00:59:16 And they found that, quote, fifty nine percent of the fish sold in restaurants and stores with the label tuna was not tuna. So that's including sushi yes they found 74 of sushi venues mislabeled items as quote tuna when they were not are they just dying it pink what are they doing i don't know i don't know what the fuck's going on there like i feel like i think we all just need to become vegan i think is like what's going on at the end of the day. Oh, yeah. I mean, already, I don't do beef burgers anymore. I have Nathan's and Impossible's, like what I do for my grills now.
Starting point is 00:59:51 That's my first step towards getting away from that shit. But like, yeah, when you're like, tuna's not tuna? When tuna's not tuna, the world is upside down. That's the biggest takeaway from today. Exactly. Now Mr. Kessler's got something to write in the washington post he's like uh one more fucking thing our tuna is not tuna alarm bells are going off here at the washington post but i guess that's the thing is that maybe so maybe this lawsuit is more about saying like that to get subway to be like rather than being like
Starting point is 01:00:22 yo we got a hundred percent tuna over here. They may need to shift to like, we have 66.667% tuna. Or they could just be like, it's tuna, we think. Yeah. Tuna, like trawler surprise or like seafood hash. Like there are other foods
Starting point is 01:00:40 that... Seafood hash. There are like corn beef hash is a thing that i have gladly eaten even though i don't know what the fuck is in that but did you ever eat scrapple growing up yeah oh yeah yeah yeah i'm going to the jersey shore in a week and a half of course i scrapple growing up it's but to me it's like tuna the new scrapple you know you don't know what's in it just tastes good yeah i mean and is that is that that bad i guess that's what we at the end of the day i never ate a tuna sandwich
Starting point is 01:01:10 because i was like yes the taste of tuna i'm like give me my like fish essence mayonnaise it's the alchemy of the mayo yeah fish it's like if you get a little celery in there sometimes pop it up with a dill i mean you never know but you know have you ever had scrapple no i've never but i know about it like i've i watched a lot of cooking shows and i was like you just take the trimmings and mix it up literally like the other other other other was left after the hot dog company has come and taken their picks pickings they're like okay the rest of this shit shit, we either dump it in the ocean or we turn it into Scrabble. Does it taste like organ meat?
Starting point is 01:01:53 Or does it have just generic meat flavor? No, it just tastes like tougher hot dog to me. Yeah, but it tastes like, and it's fattier. It's slightly more grizzly yeah yeah for sure or gristly gristly not grizzly like the bear it's a little grizzly too it's a little yeah i see i kind of feel like it's the meat where it goes like you get your cuts of meat and then they make hot dog meat and then they make meat for dog food and stuff like that and then what's ever left we're at like a b c whatever's left at d becomes grapple d i think is for the department of
Starting point is 01:02:33 corrections so that's what they feed to incarcerated people and then yeah it's like even not fit for what people feed uh in prisons i guess oh yeah guess I'm down to try it, though. It is good. Yeah, why not? Okay, I'll try it. Look. Bring it on. Bring on the scrapple. Bring on the half tuna. A scrapple melt is what you need. You need to do a scrapple melt. You need to do it on two pieces of Roman meal bread.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Wait, what's a scrapple melt? I've just had it. You fry it up in a pan and you put a little cheese on there i had one one of my friends bringing up her mom used to put slices of velveta on it i mean i would i would get diarrhea for like days after but i feel like you would get diarrhea by the end of that sandwich looking at it i mean honey why do you think i have lupus? Okay. The autoimmune disease came from the Scrapple Velveeta melt.
Starting point is 01:03:29 It's crazy, but it's delicious. It will give you diarrhea. If you're constipated, let me make you that for you. Okay, I'm going for it. And yeah, if there's any store-bought Scrapple, let me know. I'll pick it up. I just love how we just went from, yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:44 we need to go vegan. Now vegan and then you want to eat the worst parts of a pig's asshole yeah with velvete on it yeah you know two extremes lead to yeah exactly the middle right you want to eat the edible version of that shit that jack nicholas nicholson fell into in the batman the original batman movie then try scrapple it's yeah it's stored in a metal bin somewhere in a factory like that's how they dry age it is like it's stored in a bin somewhere where like people are murdered and then uh they they bring it out and turn it into scrapple All right. It is the one day of the year that I feel okay talking about Major League Baseball.
Starting point is 01:04:29 The All-Star game is happening, I think, tonight in Los Angeles? The one day I feel good about it. Tonight? I think. Well, I know the Home Run Derby was last night. It is tonight. Sorry, to clarify, the game occurring tonight,
Starting point is 01:04:48 it's like the NBA All-Star Game. It's like all the best guys put on their little outfits and go for a good game of ball, but it doesn't mean anything, right? It's just like fun. It does mean they turned it into a thing where I think if the AL or the NL, whoever
Starting point is 01:05:09 wins, they get home field advantage in the World Series or at least that was the case at one point. So they wanted to add stakes to it because everybody had... Stakes, so it's not just funsies. Yeah, but it is mostly funsies and they just put people in, like a pitcher comes in for one or two innings and then... Got it, got it, said it's not just funsies. Yeah, but it is mostly funsies. And they just, like, put people in, like, a pitcher comes in for, like, one or two innings.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Got it, got it, got it. Okay. There have been memorable All-Star games in my lifetime, but, like, the last one, I feel like, was, like, 99 or something. Yeah, honestly, I can't, I can't, the last time I checked for a home run derby was probably that, like that Sosa-Maguire year. 99, yeah, at FemWire. Was that when he got busted for like taking steroids or something? Yeah, but like way later. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:53 They're like, they're doing something no one's ever done. They're like, they were juiced the fuck out. Yeah. It was a moonshot. That thing's still traveling. Right. Over Mass Pike. Wow, his fingernails are neon green. That thing's still traveling over Mass Pike. Wow, his fingernails are neon green.
Starting point is 01:06:09 That might not be anything. Don't worry about it. Oh, man. Anyways, not always like, I don't know. All right, I'm not going to say that baseball players are dumb because that's not a nice thing to say, but this is not the most surprising story I've ever heard. So any player traveling to Canada has to be vaccinated, as we learned in the NBA playoffs when a bunch of players couldn't travel to Toronto. I think it was actually just one 76er.
Starting point is 01:06:35 So the Kansas City Royals had that happen to them this weekend where they had a game in Toronto. And except 10 players had to not play in the game so they were outed as being unvaccinated and you know they in addition to not getting to play in the game they aren't paid for those games and so that like what one phillyies catcher, JT Realmuto, said he could sacrifice the $250,000. What's money when I'm not going to let Canada tell me what I do and don't put in my body? For a little bit of money, it's not worth it. Wow. Which made me just wonder, like, what do these babies think is in this shit?
Starting point is 01:07:22 Like, what are they so worried about? I've seen people get pretty sick. Yeah, that was the answer. Even though they got their vaccine. So, yeah, I love also, just shout out to the class solidarity there. What's 250K on it? I know. I'll fart that away.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Just to pwn the Canadians. Like, what? That's not just a little bit of money. Stick it to them. fart that away just to own the Canadians like what that's a little bit of money to them of the players who are unvaccinated and can't travel a whopping 94% of them are from the US all right yeah
Starting point is 01:07:55 bro it's so embarrassing this country it is truly mortifying I'm just like what the fuck is wrong with like like, it's asinine. It's completely asinine. The most powerful people in our country are, like, these kinds of athletes and then other, like, people in Congress who are asking, like, doctors if someone who's pregnant could give
Starting point is 01:08:18 birth to a taco. Right. And doing it with a straight face. And, like, we constantly just, like, let that shit cook, too, which is wild to like that. When you do stories like this, they're like, hey, anti-vax person, say some misinformation right now. his hand over his mouth, just a stricken look of horror on his face, was pointing out that vaccinated players don't get asked about it, but the unvaccinated ones are given a platform to spout misinformation. So this dipshit Whit Merrifield said, like Miles said, I've just known too many people who've gotten pretty sick.
Starting point is 01:09:02 But then he said, I might get vaccinated if something happens. And I happen to get on a team that has a chance to play in Canada in the postseason. So he's basically like, he's like, my team sucks. It doesn't really matter. But if I, you know, if it actually means something, I might actually do the damn thing. Fans love that, i'm sure it's but like again like we're in this world where like these people aren't being challenged at all and so they like who was it there was a nba player who was like very adamant that they weren't gonna get
Starting point is 01:09:38 vaccinated and then like their teammates like had a talk with them and their coach like explained to them. Was Andrew Wiggins? Yeah, it was Wiggins. That's right. And then he was like, yeah, yeah, I got vaccinated. Yeah. And had a great season of his fucking career.
Starting point is 01:09:54 I think that's what this guy needs to learn. Whit Merrifield needs to check himself with. I love that his take boils down to, look, if y'all were better at baseball i might give a fuck about my life yeah right like whoa yeah and also just does not give a shit about the general like couldn't care less it all it a lot of it really does boil down to just america's individualistic like head up our ass just so the idea no other humans exist except for me right well because well again because our lovely capitalist society is built for the individual it's not built for the community it's not built to actually care for each other and give a shit about each other it is the it's the me me me me me constantly right yeah um and then if someone
Starting point is 01:10:46 dares question or have a conversation about why you make said decision i think there's such a premium that people are like that's my fucking constitutional right right that i get to do whatever the fuck i want to do even if it means threatening the health and lives of other people. So it's like, again, it's, you know, people, vaccinated people aren't the ones that are being questioned about their information and their viewpoints. It's always the unvaccinated people that are saying some fucking psychotic shit. It's about freedom, man.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Freedom from consequence at every turn for every single thing I do. That's what freedom is. Freedom from fucking consequence because I have misconstrued this concept of freedom where you can do anything you like into, I can be as nasty and fucked up as I'd like to anybody. And no one better say shit to me because this is America and I and I just redefine freedom.
Starting point is 01:11:49 The American dream is now just getting so rich that you can remove yourself from the human condition, which includes like dealing with other people. You can say two hundred and fifty thousand dollars isn't enough money. Right. And again, yeah. What's two250,000 if I can say fuck you to Canada? Am I right? Again, that's the concept in the culture of fuck you money, which is basically
Starting point is 01:12:12 I have so much money I can say fuck you to anything. And that's fucking freedom, right? And that's tight, dude. Sick. Anyways, go Blue Jays, I guess. That's the moral of that story. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:27 I would just love that it turns out like Toronto just was like this city that just crushes other teams. And they're like, yeah, bring your anti-vaxxers. Oh, right. You can't. Oh, sorry. Sorry about that. They like get to the World Series and they suck. They've just been playing like teams that don't have any players the whole season.
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