The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 236 (Best of 7/25/22-7/29/22)

Episode Date: July 31, 2022

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So without further ado, here is the weekly Zeitgeist. Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the wild card of Mount Zeitmore, a hilarious stand-up comedian, actor, musician with a 7.4 rated album on Pitchfork. Author. No big deal. You can listen to his podcast, Cold got me like or stream it on twitch his new book the advice king anthology is available to order on vanderbilt university press vanderbilt university that's right you hear that you fucking academic elitist he's here university the same one

you talk about at every goddamn dinner party. Yeah. Same one. That same one. You go to goddamn Turks and Caicos and tell everybody your son, you know, just got in. Well, guess what? This got into Vanderbilt. Oh, that's so great. He is going to love it. Honors at entrance.

Honors at entrance. Braden's doing great. Yeah. And also the, you know, Rick, who's the local judge he actually dismissed his uh vehicular homicide case so he's he's got a clear plate to go to college now we're really happy for him yeah they're having this conversation on a beach towel three after three hours after they murdered somebody you know but that's like the phone call with the business decision yeah not like in a cool way it It's gauche to talk about that.

So you just talk about like fucking Vanderbilt. But yeah, I took over Vanderbilt. Yeah, that's your university now. Oh yeah, I can go over there anytime I want. I can be like, Chancellor, what's up? Anyways, hold on to your butts because the poetry window is open. It's Chris motherfucking Crofter! What's up? Hey. I'm so glad to be here so good to

have in my in my thank you in my barn or wherever or wherever i'm in the storage unit i broadcast from yeah you see what's behind me uh yeah just a bunch of junk looks like a yard sale huh not really it kind of looks like I'm living that yard sale life. What, do you got a hammer there? It's not even mine. It's my landlord's stuff. It's like a bunch of children's toys and hammers. I mean, whatever.

Somebody else's life that I live in. Looks like a beach high lie. Like one of those beach high lie. Oh, like scoop ball things? Yeah, probably. You know, I don't know. Scoop out the seat. I'm like, i have to block a lot of stuff out yeah hey that's modern american yeah surviving as a modern american when i look

at that pile of junk behind me all i see is a i see a fresh pineapple i think all i see your dollars all i do i see like i see a fruit. I see a nicely arranged fruit bowl. The kind that like Cezanne or whoever would have painted or whatever. Getting arty on us. El Greco. Yeah, yeah. I just had some cold brew. I start talking about artists. El Greco is one of those rare

like, I don't know, renaissance, but like master painters who also sounds like a bookie, like a little bit oh yeah nobody else feel me on that well it's all right it sounds like a mob boss my last episode hashtag el greco hashtag canceled so uh so uh yeah like i i don't i was an art history major, so I like to sprinkle in... Oh, you were? Yeah, yeah, but I didn't...

And I was a sports gambling major, so... Yeah, I didn't go to class or anything, so I'm always, like, looking at paintings and being like, Is that an El Greco or a... Mm-hmm. Yeah, it could be El Greco or probably Rembrandt. Yeah, could be. Or it could be freaking be no way to know could be uh pollock jackson i mean they're all very similar it's impossible to tell them apart i mean what el greco and rembrandt overlapped but not pollock come on no chris holy shit miles i'm just flexing on us with the knowledge. I'm just saying.

I'm just saying. Yeah, Chris, Miles has changed. I can read your expression. And yeah, Miles has changed. I figured your whole shit out, Chris. Holy God. So this is like, wow, this is like a serious podcast now. Okay, I don't know.

Oh, okay. This is one of those serious podcasts. Oh, fuck. Oh, okay. This is one of those serious podcasts. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. So you guys are going to have to guide me along because I, like, have been, like, completely. I got back from New York. I was in New York doing a play, acting in a play.

Oh, wow. I was gone for six weeks and I came back to just, like, I don't know if it's depression from, like, from COVID I had when I was in New York or whether it's from just, like, I don't know if it's depression from COVID I had when I was in New York, or whether it's from just like being, you know, bopping around New York City and then coming back to like this living situation that I'm not crazy about, but I'm sort of spaced out. Like I'm not sure if it's long COVID kind of stuff, but I definitely feel like I had COVID like a month ago now right and i feel like

i feel a little odd like i yeah i don't know so i'm a little bit spaced out so you know if i if i or if i just talk about depressing shit today if i'm just like you know sorry i'm just trying to like i'm trying to get everybody's got to work through their shit you know i can't quite you know what i mean i can't quite i can't quite feel normal i'm trying to get... Everybody's got to work through their shit. I can't quite, you know what I mean? I can't quite, I can't quite feel normal. I'm trying to figure out how, but, you know, I can't get the joy from, you know, I'm drinking as much cold brew as I can. I'm watching as much Abandoned Mind videos as I can.

And I still can't seem to get back to my usual level of, you know, just like barely hanging on. Now I'm like, usually I'm hanging on with like, you know, three fingers and now I'm hanging on with two oh i definitely felt that like maybe that's a little maybe that's an overstatement but you know but i'm hanging on i'm not feeling yeah it feels a little bit different i i can i definitely hear that i mean i feel like other people who have experienced like a similar thing where they were sort of confused i'm like i don I don't know if I'm like, just have a general malaise or if I have long COVID is something I've. Well, right. What a time to sort through symptoms. You know what I mean? Like, well, how could you tell? Like, I mean,

you could have, I can have a lot of ailments, but I mean, like it could all be just reading the news. Like, you don't know what I mean? It's like, I don't know. I either have long COVID or I read the news or I'm clinically depressed or I'm just a realist. I mean, how do you, you know, or else I have too much clutter behind me in this Zoom video. Like, what could it, who knows what it is? It's hard to pinpoint. and stomach issues. That's always good. Yeah. Is my stomach fucked up? Yes. Or is that because of Mitch McConnell? Is it causing, is my stomach causing it? Or my brain? Or my brain causing my stomach?

Should I have put two cold brews in that fucking beer funnel? I've drank as much cold brew as I possibly can today, and I still feel like shit. And I still feel so anxious and uneasy. I've eaten so much candy, too. so much candy too oh man not doing anything to

settle my stomach i mean you've taken all my suggestions drink as much cold brew as your body can possibly contain and uh candy just family size well that's the thing is also i have like a 1950s idea of what like right health is. It's like, I went bowling. I still feel horrible. I exercised. I went bowling. I went bowling and smoked a bunch of cigarettes and I still feel like shit. Did the hula hoop for 15 minutes. I ate a huge

hamburger with green peppers in it. I don't know, Doc. Something's not right. I bought a Plymouth. I bought a new Plymouth and everything. I drank nine Rheingolds. I worked on the car. What the fuck? I feel like absolute shit. I'm wearing my strappy undershirt.

That's what the doctor's about to ask. Are you wearing the strappy undershirt? Look right here. Oh my god and you're and you're smoky enough you're smoking just unusual gosh i don't know what to tell you except for maybe just uh i don't know have a couple more beers and go play more pool yeah you know some more men have a few schlitz are you gambling enough that's the question. Right. What is something from your search history? So I've already given the game

away a little bit because a couple of things in my search history are Waterpark Vegas and American Ninja Warrior Vegas but I can tell you the other thing we landed on which was Monster Jam Vegas because that was the last thing I... I was in Vegas for a full week and I was pretty bored during the days.

Monster Jam? I don't even know is it that is that is monster trucks that is a monster truck tournament hell yeah big trucks huge tires doing backflips jumping over things it was and also that the addition of jam makes it feel like they're getting to like you know go off book a little bit just like just noodle around with the monster truck like it's just a monster yeah freestyle and anyone with their own truck can kind of sit in it's just a jam baby we're just getting down at the monster hey do you mind if i brought my truck if do you mind if i just you know if i brought my truck if do you mind if i just you know do you mind if i jam with you guys sure uh i mean i'm in the famous truck called grave digger but what do you got i got this uh

old one chevy s10 with a tunnel cover we could kind of vibe out with it it's mostly made from a cigar box uh my granddad made it yeah been passed down for generations it's been through been to a few jams. Wait, was Gravedigger present? Because I feel like at Monster Jam, it used to be Bigfoot was the monster truck. They were both there. Bigfoot and Gravedigger were both there.

Oh, yes. Then it's a proper Monster Jam at the Thomas and Mac Arena. That's exactly it. That's where it was. That's the only place it can be. I thought it was like some like 90s hip hop remake of the Monster Mash. But I'm glad it is what it is.

I've definitely heard from like people who I wouldn't expect necessarily to be Monster Truck fans just in the traditional sense. Being like, I went to a Monster Truck rally. It's awesome. And now that is something I'm into. Like I identify as a monster truck person, you know? I don't know if I would put myself that far in the category, but I'm definitely someone who gets bored on the road doing stand-up around the country and looks for things to do.

And, you know, maybe I'll get something i could talk about on stage out of it or maybe i'll just get an experience out of it that i can tell people about or just enjoy myself for a couple of hours before i go back to the hotel room for you what's been the most fruitful sort of like experimental event you went to like in the same vein you're like holy shit i got a lot more out of this in many levels than i thought I would. Oh, that's a great question. I don't, I honestly don't know. I think some of the ones that were just surprising, like going to a laser tag with another comic,

that was a lot of fun. That was just like, I was expecting, I hadn't been since I was a kid. I was like, all right, let's see how we go. And then it was just, you know, we absolutely murdered the kids oh my god i just realized now it's just like real you know you're doing stuff during the day and most people have real jobs so if you go and do these things it normally ends up just being a couple of idiot comedians and then just parents like a seventh grade birthday party exactly i went to a seventh grade birthday party and i was like

i'll let the kids have their fun and then like one of them shot my kid and then i was just on a rampage after that give me the fucking blaster yeah i was like not doing fun stuff i was i like found a good spot and then just like sniped the hell out of like everyone yeah wait so we're first nutting it were you playing at Ultrazone? yeah we talked about this yeah where you used to work where I used to work and Dr. Dre watched me make me very uncomfortable

did you go there too Matt? was that where you went for laser? no where's Ultrazone? that's in the valley like in Sherman Oaks and we don't even need to tell people that usually Justin you can cut that out because UltraZone is nationally famous. Everyone knows where UltraZone is. It's the one surviving

place, actually. Did you go to UltraZone? Was it UltraZone, then? Oh, UltraZone? No, what is that? Oh, it's probably UltraZone. That's actually the first thing that Miles had on his resume when we were thinking about bringing him on for this show was a proud alumnus of UltraZone.

Exactly. And no follow-up, just UltraZone. That's it. That's all you need to know. Is a week the longest time you've ever spent consecutively in Vegas? And follow-up, is it the longest time anyone has ever spent consecutively in Vegas? Because that feels like a long time to be in Las Vegas. It is a very long time. I would say Penn and Teller have beaten that amount of time

by several decades, but other than that... Yeah, but they have to get out. They must travel every day. Well, they definitely don't live on the Strip. I'm pretty sure they live in nice houses and then commute into the casino. Yeah, I would say that is exactly five and a half days longer than you should ever spend in Vegas.

Vegas is fantastic for about 36 hours and that's the limit. I had to work on a Senate campaign there for two months. Were you on the strip? Dude, just like literally one block off the strip? living in this extended stay like hotel like on halloween like kids are trick-or-treating and like i had like a front row seat at like the financial collapse of america and i changed at a molecular

level being there for two months i'm not gonna lie it definitely put something put some pep in my step to get the fuck out of politics all right uh well i'm thoroughly disturbed what is something you think is underrated i've got an underrated and an overrated that go together this week. And this one goes out to all my white friends, all my white homies who listen to this podcast. Underrated. Hats. Overrated. Sunscreen.

How can I put this? I was on an outdoor shoot recently, and they were like, we're going to be outdoors all day. Protect yourself from the sun. You could really tell who had been outside and who had not. I just was spending the whole day watching people's shoulders roast. And it's not fun. And they're like, it's fine. I put on sunblock.

Sunblock lasts for two hours maximum. You have to keep putting it on. And even then then you're not going to get every single inch because you can't reach every single inch of your back just wear a hat just wear sleeves it's 100 effective it's not sticky you don't have to reapply it you just put it on one and done baby you go just don't i just see so many people get sunburn and they're like oh it's not a big deal. It is a big deal, man. Your skin is roasting from the light.

It's not cool. It's not normal. You're going to get skin cancer. I'm upset for you. You smell like a turkey on Thanksgiving. I'm getting hungry. You're making me hungry. I do like to reapply my hat, but that's just because I like to do funky little tricks with it.

Like spins and flips and stuff. Or like bobbling on top of your head yeah yeah that move that's always a fun one i was told by a 13 year old that wearing your hat like like just sort of setting it on top of your head is the dominant way to wear the hat because it makes your head look bigger and the way that jack is wearing the hat is not i'm i'm not gonna say it's submissive but it is not dominant oh i'm a big i'm a big hat sub yeah they say oh wow look at this sub sandwich that just pulled up with his hat all low okay and i'm coming that big dom energy because i got like a 10 gallon fitted yeah just real real high but yeah, I got to recommend, got to recommend above all things, hats and shirts. I think they're great ideas.

You know, just you got to wear. I feel like there's sort of a feeling kind of the norm here is that when it's hot, you show more skin. And that may have been a thing that you could do when we didn't live in a time of heat waves literally every summer. But, you know, it's hot. It's not the heat. It's the light. You know? It's the light that burns you. It doesn't have to be that hot for you to get sunburned.

Protect your neck, guys. You know, bandanas are your friend. Shirts are your friend. They soak up your sweat, which is nice. I didn't ski growing up, but there would always be kids coming back from ski trips, and they would just have white there, and then their face would be an ungodly

bronze color. Yeah, goggle tan. It weirded me out. Did I see goggle tans? Yes, Jack, I grew up in Northern California. I saw some goggle tans. I'd seen a goggle tan, okay seen a goggle tan okay Okay called him

Sorry I was too busy shredding the gnar All winter Came back with a freaking sick Goggle tan it's like hella sick Yeah exactly The shirt I was wearing this dude came up to me And goes oh you had some friends in Nam that were POWs I'm like nah dude it's cause I'm carving

Pow on the fucking mountainside, Brad. Fuck out of my face. Out of my face, loser. There is this, I felt like this weekend, though, sorry, that like over the weekend, there were so many viral posts of white people getting absolutely violated by the sun's rays. That's what I'm saying, dude. They don't understand. They're like, oh, sun is my friend.

You're not also like, you know, my boyfriend was boyfriend, it was like, I was like, do you want to wear sunscreen? He was like, no, I don't like putting stuff on my face. I was like, for sure, dude. And then we were talking about it and I was like, so why do you feel like you need to be stronger than the sun? Yeah. Here's a question for you. Why do you feel like as a man you have to be like no it's fine i'm i don't the sun even if the sun hurts me it's okay because who cares because it's you know i can take it do you think that you are you can beat the sun the sun is a you know what i mean in a way yes that's how potent i am you are extremely virile extremely tough my balls are so big that they will block out the sun and i will shade myself with them and i was also like my my circuitry

was pretty much formed at a time when i thought i was invincible like in my teenage years and yeah it reminds me of like people like i i do i think you're right to single out white people i think people like i've always made fun of how people from new england are about the cold where they're like this is this isn't cold to me this is cold to you that's this isn't shit i'll wear shorts in this shit like that's how basically all white people are for the most part with regards to the sunscreen and the sun yeah and i i my my wife is not white and wears a lot of like sun protective stuff and that's the only reason it's evident to me that i am a like i my the where i was coming from was incredibly wrong my wife's weird we've talked about people wearing driving gloves

on this podcast before, and I was like, wow, driving gloves. My wife was wearing driving gloves. I just didn't know that's what they were. But yeah. Oh, yeah. She's like, I'm not cooking my arms up. Yeah, I'm not cooking my fucking hands.

What are you, crazy? Yeah. I remember my mom used to, first, she wore long sleeve and golf gloves, and all my friends would be like, yo, your mom plays golf? But like, why don't you take her golf gloves off?'m like bro she's so fair-skinned she just and she reads too much about the sun but i i'm on the other side there's also like toxic like people

of color anti-sunscreen sentiment too which is oh we got melanin right you can still burn you can still burn with sunscreen i know and i'm saying i was raised on that version too where my dad would be like telling my mom like you need sunscreen not this brown young man here we're good we have melanin and i and then it took like my friend to become like a nurse like in our 20s to be like you know that's all bullshit right i'm like yeah it's still i don't get burned she's like yeah but your shit will degrade like the effects are there you might not burn but everything else happens i'm like oh no my beautiful skin that's all i had and going back to uh four

year olds real quick but sunscreen sucks when you have a four-year-old and you got to put sunscreen on every inch of their body and they are like it they they don't like that shit but i would just say at least my four-year-old does not like that you try to put it on their face and their nose is running and then you're just rubbing their own snot mixed with the sunscreen all around their face and then they're crying and there's sand and you know it's because also it what it does is i remember as a kid it just delays you from getting in the fucking pool or doing whatever, like meeting up with your friends. You're like, yeah, I'm here.

You take your shit off. You're like ready to hop in the pool. You're like your parents like that. Now, let me rub your back for five minutes to put the lotions on or what. And I'll wait for it to dry and then go in the pool. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back.

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Yeah. Yeah. So the Coachella owners, which AEG is the company that most people are probably familiar with, but they are owned by the Anschutz Corporation, which is not, as you pointed out, Miles, the made up Nazi company from the man in the high tower. But it does. The Anschutz Corporation. I'm like, oh, yeah. Yeah. They own everything.

You heard AEG. That actually stands for the Anschutz Entertainment Group. If you weren't aware or AXS dot com where you buy tickets like they they they're behind Coachella. They're behind Stagecoach. They own a ton of sports venues like they're they have their hands on fucking everything like in terms of like live entertainment. And we talked recently just just some context about how Coachella is like this marketing event that was created by people who are like, yeah, man, people really liked the like Woodstock and like those idealistic things. What if we took that but made it completely just marketing and devoid of any value other than like cultural signifiers? What then? So Coachella, like all the way down is, you know.

It feels very it starts to feel more gross when we get through this story where you figure out it's like wait is it a collection yeah it's like a donation gathering event to put more right-wing wackos in office yeah not to say that the line is that clear but when you start digging in uh popular information if you follow that newsletter the work of judd legum reported along with the rolling along with the Rolling Stones, along with the Rolling Stones, along with the Rolling Stones, along with Keith Richards and fucking. Go, Rick. All right. Yeah, exactly. They're doing their thing. They reported that, you know, the company, the parent company, the Anschutz Corporation, made a pretty sizable donation to RAGA, which is Republican Attorneys General Association. Just days after the row decision the

the dobbs decision that overturned row came down the raga like the day row was overturned they blasted out to their supporters said hey man we could really use some cash man because we're gonna need to put in more attorneys general that are gonna fucking lay this fucked up human rights violating hammer down. Are you in? Can we count on you? And clearly the Anschutz Corporation was like, yes, you can just give us a few days to get that money together and we'll get it right to you. And this isn't the first time this company or their owner has given to right wing causes either. Like in March, his company donated a combined like seven hundred to the gop leadership funds that are like focused on getting majorities in the house and senate they're you know like they're called like

the leadership funds or whatever and he also seems to have a knack for giving to anti-lgbtq groups as well like the alliance for defending freedom the national christian foundation and the family research council when pressed about it onshut's defense was called it fake news that but they're like these are these are fucking taxed you have this is document the fuck you're talking about and added quote i unequivocally support the rights of all people without regard to sexual orientation end quote okay um and and then at time he's like look i don't see sexual orientation like to me everyone looks the same 100 never had sex he's saying like so it's really not relevant to me i don't really want to have an opinion on that right you know i give to a lot of people and that's the

thing i i want to take a side note here because you're you're pointing out something that i wish more people acknowledged especially in this field the more innocuous the name of an organization is, the more fuckery they tend to be up to. Right. Exactly. Like like the the Family Research Council. Right. Alliance Defending Freedom. It's like back when the CIA had Air America. And that's right. That sounds dope. That's fine. But now it's like a knee jerk reaction for me, man. Every time I hear a really innocuous sounding name for a political organization, I'm like, Oh, the cleaner it sounds. Yeah. When those groups are getting together,

all the founders are like, what if we called it the gay people shouldn't exist alliance. And then people are like, no, no, no. They're like, why? That's what we're here for. No, you got to say something like the Family Research Council. Do you have any idea how many Harvard and Yale graduates we have working to come up with a beautiful name that sounds perfect and hits people's brains exactly right? Yeah, we don't call it Gay people shouldn't exist you dumb fuck even if we have we have all the money in america to spend on coming up with the right name for this

so when he was pressed about it they then found it was like okay you know what i'm gonna stop funding any groups it turns out that are involved with any anti-lgbtq anything but then pitchfork like a year or two later looked into it again and he was just giving a smaller organization that have a history of anti-lgbtq like activity and so again you know this is just sort of when the parent company was asked about this whole you know their support for forced birth they were like oh took a very similar path of like one of the spokespeople for the company said that you know, the company and the owner Philip Anschutz does, you know,

he believes totally in the right to choose and did not support the reversal of Roe and either the company or the individual himself received, saw, or was aware of a Republican Attorneys General Association fundraising solicitation based on the reversal of Roe v. Wade.

TAC has contributed to RAGA since at least 2014. No contribution to RAGA by the Anschutz Corporation or Mr. Anschutz has been based upon, informed by, or motivated by any RAGA position on Roe or abortion. Mr. Anschutz makes contributions to numerous organizations, usually for specific reasons. He does not review or support each of the positions taken by such organizations. Okay, I gotta go. What the fuck? Just a straight up run on word blast to be like,

Yikes! You caught us! 100%. Like, that's, how is that any different from someone saying, Okay, did I donate to the Nazi party? Yes, but it's because I like the uniforms i did not do much other research i think the armbands are cool it's like hitler's stance on vegetarianism and not smoking okay so get off my back like if you if you do you think everybody should smoke

do you want to kill animals then all right who right. Who's the real monster? I'm just a single issue donator. Hey, look, I met him in a Reddit subreddit group where it was people who had beef against art schools that they didn't get into. That's what we bonded over first. I didn't know that's what he was up to. That's not fair. Like, I just, I only knew him from Reddit. That's the same energy that all these people have. But this is just, again, another example of how the billionaire class has a public facing company that's aligned with a festival like Coachella.

Yet in private, the owners and even in public, the company itself are actually a bunch of sick fucks who are hell bent on ending democracy. And just I just wanted there's a there's an interesting report that came out in the last week from Common Dreams and a few other groups that just showed just how much billionaires contribute to the two parties. So the Congressional Leadership Fund and the Senate Leadership Fund, these are both funds that Anschutz donated to directly, raised a combined $188.3 million in the first 16 months of the 2022 campaign cycle. Nearly half, about 90 million or 48 percent came from just 27 billionaires. And Anschutz is one of these 27 billionaires. A whopping 86 percent of the GOP's billionaire money comes from, quote, Wall Street tycoons, which are the people who benefit most from our shitty tax laws and loopholes.

So they have a vested interest to stay in the game of influencing politics. And then on the Democratic side, you look, they raised about 154 million in that period, about 25.8 million or 17% only came from 19 billionaires for Democrats. So they're only beholden to 19 Democrats who aren't giving as much, but still outsized donations. And a majority of those billionaire contributions, again, comes from the investment sector. I mean, you know, the Clinton administration is the one who let Wall Street become a total fucking casino. So it's been a good it's been a nice relationship since then. And made the shape of the government like Wall Street logic.

Like we're not, you know, allocating funds for like projects to help the public we are investing in these things and then we use wall street logic and like investor call logic when we're like talking to the press about fucking like well we're means testing everything like everything has to be like framed as this like financial thing that's like paying back to rich americans essentially who needs a pension get a 401k that's the rule right right exactly i mean this story just i feel like we could just cover this story every day from now like this is the whole thing that like that is so much money that is being put in by these billionaires and they're not doing it out of

kindness or the, because they don't like pay attention to what happens to their money. Billionaires pay way more attention to what happens to their money than you and I do. Like they love their money. They are absolutely, they're doing it because they expect something in return and will make sure they get it or they will destroy the person who doesn't give it to them like that is the mentality of a billionaire that is how you become a billionaire is by like liking your money and making it work for you at like you know two degrees that are just completely absent of any like morality or anything like that but so this is what like the the supreme court has made possible is that we have an entire system that is just designed by billionaires like when you look at the founding of coachella

like the two people who founded it were just like people in punk bands who are like the sort of people who maybe in a past generation like start like creating like a community like you know build build something cool they're like cool people who like you know uh rock stars like to hang out with like they're it like plugged into the artistry and instead you know they are fed into this system that is controlled by billionaires. And the result of that is that like Coachella, a cool idea becomes a funding mechanism for right wing like politics and for ideals that just end up protecting rich people's money. That is what the entire American project is at this point for all intents and purposes. And it's all happening behind closed doors. We're fucking out in the open. Yeah, well, right.

But it's not behind closed doors. It's just not the part that the media pays attention to. And that is because the media is also, like, the amount of money that they're investing. They're creating so many jobs. Like the, the people who like created Coachella, like that every like New York times fucking,

you know, writer, they're making like a good living. They, these people's money is putting people's children through college. And like those people now take their marching orders from billionaires. And like that is how you get to a system that we're in right now, that it's just it's completely fucked. Yeah. I mean, that Upton Sinclair quote couldn't be truer where it's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it.

Absolutely. And that's been true since fucking Upton Sinclair. Also, this is like, whoa, I feel like we, we get angry at the New York times. We get angry at it.

And like, I feel like they, they're not making the mistakes because they want to be necessarily. No, making the mistakes because they want to be necessarily there are billions of dollars that are sending thousands of people's kids through college that are buying that bias and like yeah and same with the people who found a coachella and now like are you know work in these like swanky giant things and have like million dollar mansions and shit like that and you know like that is this is the system it's like billionaire money just buying a friendly you know a friendly to billionaire

atmosphere yeah and all this focus on their maintaining their wealth has just led to just complete destruction of social safety nets in this country and then what's going on with crime it can't be because no one has options or is supported it's because there's not enough ring cameras to hack or whatever fucking logic they're trying to write but like yeah but since like you know they can buy votes we've just been sliding the scale the other way and we're just like you're saying jack we don't live in a place that considers the needs of a working person. We live in a place that always centers what the desires of the billionaire classes. And then you can dress it up as policy or these other things.

But the gist is always going to be, if this shit takes a bite out of the billionaire classes, fucking bank account, you can pretty much bet that this shit will not pass because they have too much influence with the people who have the votes to make things a reality. And I just want to say those 27 billionaires that were bankrolling the GOP super PACs alone, their wealth increased by 82.4 billion during the fucking pandemic. pandemic meaning that the fucking barely 90 million that they gave is less than one tenth of one one percent of their overall pandemic era gains right that's can you imagine all the costs that's like that's an investment that the average person would salivate for oh easily like you would

do dirt for that i would i would commit crime for that. But the other thing that I think is part and parcel of this, we're talking about the complicity of this system at a structural level, is that there's no real insider trading law for Congress. And it's an apolitical point. And people sometimes don't like to hear it, especially if they consider themselves very partisan. Right. And they're saying, oh, you know, but my side or this one is the good one for some reason. Like Pelosi, I believe, is cyclically in hot water that somehow mysteriously goes away when people learn about the profiteering that occurs on a routine, regular, I would say normalized and systemic basis there. I know for a lot of us listening today, this is maybe we're preaching the choir. Maybe the statistics and specifics are new and maybe it's really disheartening, but it's the truth.

It's not a conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy on the part of billionaires. Yeah, measurable. theory it's a conspiracy on the part of the leaders yeah measurable you can yeah you can tie the amount their proximity to an industry to begin to understand why they vote a certain way or why certain legislative uh ideas are injected into bills and things like that it's pretty clear but again if the if the mechanism that people use to understand it is going to be pushed through like a funhouse mirror of corporate interests, the shit that they're going to see is not going to be that. It's going to be our Joe Manchin and Christian cinema. It's all them.

It's like, no, it's all of you. But you're lucky that these two were particularly lacking moral scruples that they're like visibly just going to be like the the centerpiece for it for it all but really these are just these are just like a zit on the gigantic ass of our fucked up political system where it's like i need to zoom out look at the whole nasty butt because it's the rules sound like the you guys were talking about uh kids before in some previous episodes you know and i hope everybody's kid is well listening to this. But if you have ever caught your very young child trying to cheat at a game, it sounds like that's the kid who wrote a lot of these laws, especially around superpacks. It's like, don't know. It's not directly, you know, contributing, right? No, I get to have the power. You don't get to have the superpower.

Like, I have the, yeah. Wait, hold on. What kind of controller are you using? Wait, that's not fair. You can set the buttons to turbo. That's why you're fucking me up with Chun-Li. That is an argument that Miles got into with my six-year-old recently. By the way, Miles is always pushing to uh

pull the focus out on the whole nasty butt i will say exactly stop zooming in on the zit man you're missing the zit for the ass but i mean this is the ass oh my god this is this directly ties to the national mood of like people just being like what like what like we the the surreal phenomenon of having the president that we elected being in office and not being able to do anything he wants to do and the fact that this isn't given as the explanation is like well he can't do it because the billionaires don't want him to do it like Like that, that should be 80 point font on the front page of the New York times. Like every time something fails, but instead it's like, yeah, cinema and mansion got in his way again.

And you know, that's instead of like, yeah, this should be all we're talking about it. But you know, those same billionaires own or invested they own the you know washington post or they own the corporations that advertise on the new york times and so you have to like you know listen to a podcast story about coachella to hear somebody talk about it like right i mean fucking... I mean, it's just a... It is frustrating. And when really every time,

if there was, I don't know, some shred of journalistic integrity, you could just say, here's the bill that's being proposed. Here's who stands to make less money as an industry because of these changes, right? Because even with something like build back better we're talking about clean energy and we're talking about moving towards renewables so that sounds

like the money is going to be moving away from fossil fuels and towards renewable energy now when you say the money's moving away from fossil fuels you're damn sure that the fossil fuel industry is going to be giving as much fucking money as they can and getting in the ears as many legislators as possible to make sure that money doesn't go towards renewables. Because most companies were probably more invested in trying to kneecap renewables than seeing the future and being like, you know, we should probably get in on this shit too. Because that's kind of where it's at. like, you know, we should probably get in on this shit too.

Right. Because that's kind of where it's at. And now, we're the ones paying for it because a group of wealthy fucking people are saying, you know what, in this instance, I can't stand to make less money. And guess what? I can spend fucking less than 1% of what I made in the pandemic and make this shit disappear.

Neo-feudalism. That's why I'm shaking my fist in the air. Even though it's an audio podcast. And I think that's why i'm shaking my fist in the air yeah right even though it's an audio podcast and i think that's the hard part i think for just in general jack like you're talking about how like you've had an evolution from starting the show right where there's a part where we really do want to believe that the way that we've been raised or taught of how the the political system works is actually centering the American, you know, and that's like the first lie that I think most people have to like.

I think, again, many people are still reeling with the fact like, is that not true? And then because if that's not true, then it's like, well, then what do I have to do? And I think that's scary, too. What does that mean? I have to do that if no one's looking out for me. And I think being outraged and getting, you know, more aware of what's happening around you is the key to that. I think we should open it in the dilapidated water park river country in Disney World. Oh. You know, just that they're already used to like having a micronation down there. Yeah.

So true. Old theme parks and malls. They have kind of infrastructure like plumbing and shit like that. Ventilation. Yeah. I don't know. All right. I just got like my any any micronation I'm involved in is going to involve water parks.

Yeah. Colonize the water parks. Thank you. Done. The time has come. Colonize abandoned malls and water parks. It's time to colonize them. All right.

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But America just turned it into we do the impossible. It's like 110% being. It's like, well, that's not a thing, man. I can make gold from wood. What? Alchemy is our national motto. Yeah, that's the national motto.

That's a fallacy and incorrect i don't know where work ethic alchemy that's that's everything it's like well that's impossible so you're a dipshit we're a dipshit anyways uh america has a toilet problem kalamazoo michigan just decriminalized public urination and the mainstream media lost their shit. This is, you know, according to them, this was purely done to ruin the lives of business owners and devalue property. Kalamazoo business owners upset after decriminalization of public urination, defecation. And in 2017, New York City cops gave cops the discretion to pony urinators with a civil summons instead of a criminal one, which, by the way, giving New York City cops discretion over anything is never, never going to help. But I'm sure this just led to rich white stockbrokers being able to pee wherever they want when they're drunk.

And that's that's about it. Because the cops aren't cutting a break for anyone else, it turns out. But when they did that, immediately, Tucker Carlson was like, this whole city smells like urine. All of a sudden, the first time that New York had ever smelled like urine. But yeah, I mean, public urination shouldn't just be decriminalized it should be legalized these laws really only serve to punish the most vulnerable according to one report 20 to 30 percent of unhoused people have been cited or arrested for public urination in 13 states public urination is classified as a potential sex crime yeah oh my god like you'd be a sex offender for public urination which is right wow it's like and imagine if you're unhoused and they're like you'd be a sex offender for public urination which is right wow it's like

and imagine if you're unhoused and they're like you're now a sex offender which means you you can't really be anywhere now right like with all of the you know the the the sort of boundaries that come with like places you can live near or whatever being near that's yeah anyway yeah but their way these laws are a way of criminalizing homelessness essentially in skid row in la there are 15 000 people and just five public toilets oh my god so that's one public toilet for every 3 000 people so it like not having public urination you know as a criminal act is essentially a form of entrapment because it's like physically impossible that you won't go to the bathroom there. There's also some stories in Piedmont, Oklahoma.

A cop gave a $2,500 ticket for public urination to a three-year-old. And in Ferguson, Missouri, which you might remember them, the Ferguson Police Department. You might remember them, the Ferguson Police Department. Well, in Ferguson, a family let their two-year-old and four-year-old pee in a bush, something I've done near constantly as a parent, just because kids constantly have to go to the bathroom at the most inconvenient times. It's like they have a sense for what is the most inconvenient time, and that's when they will have to go to the bathroom horribly badly. And that's when they will have to go to the bathroom like horribly badly. But a cop came by and arrested the dad for child neglect. He was held for nine hours and felt found guilty by a judge. The couple understandably later sued the city.

But you'll never guess that the family were black. So shocking. So, one solution is there just absolutely needs to be way more public toilets available. Yeah. I mean, isn't that how you solve a problem? Well, not in the United States. No, that's true.

In the United States, they're like, well, let the market solve it. Let the free market solve the toilet. That's what they did. Like the Starbucks announced that they would open their washrooms to everyone in 2018. And people are like, see the market working. They know it's a good publicity thing. Because Starbucks are everywhere.

Right. People need to pee. Except Howard Schultz recently came out, you know, now that he's, you know, probably now that he's like probably turning right. I mean, he's like union busting and has been was criticized during his presidential run as a Democrat. So I'm sure he's basically a fascist at this point. So he then recently announced that they will actually soon limit access to customers only, which amounted to a loss of critical infrastructure for the broader public in the United States. Like, so a company changes a store policy and it radically fucks over the country. That's the that's the united states but this this feels to me again like putting

like dumping a bunch of of labor on service workers who aren't being paid a living wage anyway that now you have to police the toilets like yes i think that was the fundamental problem with the mask mandates was that you were you're literally asking service workers to enforce and get a state a state regulation like policy law something something right it's like you don't yeah and like your life being threatened like that's it's not worth that it's not it's not i've always found that people who don't want to wear a mask in public seem to be very reasonable and just like easy to talk to and like here you want to hear you out that is i feel like people

not like refusing to wear a mask when it's appropriate or required is like the domestic violence of like gun owner of like mass shootings it's just like oh those those those are the people who are going to flip out and try and fight you in this subway or wherever you are. Thanks for bringing it back to subway. Yeah. Can I just throw in really quickly, historically, that cities were adding lots of public toilets until desegregation, and then they started closing them down. Huh.

Huh. Wow. Interesting. Fascinating stuff. The hand of white supremacy is always in the shadows. Always. Always. That's why we don't have enough toilets because yeah white people yeah countries like iceland have around 56 toilets per 100 000

people the u.s has eight yeah for one because people don't have to pee right exactly hey pissing your bootstraps yeah yeah we we have strongerpower, so we're able to just hold it longer than people in Iceland. But yeah, it's straight up. It's white supremacy and racism. Like that. Yeah, it's and it doesn't even again, like everything. When there's a problem, they don't fucking actually address it. People are pissing everywhere. What's the problem? Because there's not enough toilets. What's the solution? Fucking make them not enough toilets. What's the solution?

Fucking make them sex offenders. What? Wait, I'm sorry. Did you did you skip a step there? Nope. That's what we're doing. That's how you stop them. Like California sitting on a record breaking surplus of, you know, taxpayer money. you know, taxpayer money.

And rather than like spending that on building public toilets, they instead, you brag about having a surplus and it works. First of all, the media is like, holy shit, Newsom, we should make him president. He has a surplus. And then also. It's austerity. It's austerity. And yeah.

And then like start freaking out about San Francisco having like poop on the street. Like that's that's how people you look at a place like in London. Right. I was just there. They got they have public urinals fucking everywhere because they're like, man, too many people leave the pubs and shit or whatever. And they just piss all over the street. Yeah. Their solution was, well, then put up some fucking urinals that people can use and like more toilets for people and then you're spending less time cleaning up piss in the streets and giving a person to use the fucking bathroom but london has some experience there i'm like they used to use the streets as the sewers so they would know they've evolved you know they've come around like how do we solve this everyone used to use it as the sewers though well that was i like the the the like spanish colonizers when they first came to like south america they were like what the fuck is this your streets are clean yeah right where do i go pee it is definitely a european settler european colonizer movement of yeah yeah, we just kind of shit everywhere.

Right. But we also put you in jail for it. Yeah, right. We put you in jail for it, not us. That's our right. That's our divine right as colonizers. Now, show me the closest place I can defecate on something sacred. the closest place I can defecate on something sacred. So just to kind of close the loop on this, the U.S. government and various local organizations have pointed to the high costs for installing public toilets. But in fact, you actually save money by investing in restrooms

because you wind up spending millions cleaning up all the pee and poop around your city. Never mind like public health right yeah according to the world bank every dollar spent on urban sanitation brings a return of two dollars and fifty cents to the economy through reduction in medical costs and increased productivity whoa whoa whoa hold on reduction in medical costs i'm sorry that's actually what happened here fam not profitable anything i need to increase the medical cost so i can keep my Well, hold on. Reduction in medical costs? I'm sorry. That's not what will happen here, fam. Not profitable. If anything, I need to increase the medical costs so I can keep my pockets fat, okay? Like, what the fuck?

It's so frustrating. That's people pooping on land that I'm not going to because I'm going to my country club where the people who have to poop and pee everywhere are not allowed in. So, you know, it's just the public parks that get shit on and peed on and make people sick. And it's not my country club though. Anyways. Piss on your local country club. Yeah. Let's start the movement. Start reaching out. Just being like, hey, golf clubs, golf courses shouldn't exist, right? And see what kind of response you get. I bet there's more people who agree with you than you say. All right.

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