The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 237 (Best of 8/1/22-8/5/22)

Episode Date: August 7, 2022

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I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just

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I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These

are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. We have a fantastic, hilarious stand-up comedian and writer. Somebody who you've seen on TV doing their stand-up thing. I saw a clip of Kimmel that basically made me laugh so hard. I was like, who is this dude and why aren't we doing something with him? Well, guess what? Shout out to super producer Ana Hosnier. doing something with him.

Well, guess what? Shout out to super producer Ana Hosnier because this person is also contributing to the latest, latest series on the Clown Parade feed on Big Money Players Network. The first episode just dropped last week. It's called Don Saldivar Presents The Weakest Loser.

Okay, and you got to check this out. Please welcome none other than Martin Urbano! Welcome, Martin. Thanks for having me. How's it going? Thanks for coming on, man. You got Don Saldivar Presents The Weakest Loser. So in your clown parade feed,

because this is like every, you know, last time we had Greta Teitelman on who was doing her stepmom character. Martin, you're taking over this time and you're doing a lot of like game show stuff. Every episode is going to be a different game show, right? Yes. Like, where is your mind at where you go like where we're comedians like you can do whatever you want you're like yeah yeah yeah okay i want to do a bunch of different game shows what's this is a very big big thing for you game shows all of the

coolest comedians end up becoming game show hosts you know know, Howie Mandel, Steve Harvey, the goat, Chris Hardwick, the goat, all those, you know, Louis Anderson on an equal level. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I like games. I like to play games. I like to make people happy.

My stand up is, you know, a lot of interaction. So I figured, you know what? Let me just make a game show. OK. And let me do a character of somebody who is canceled right and game shows and podcasts are not easy because you don't have any of the visuals i think someone who has to craft a unique game show every week it is so challenging i tried to be like you can go look at pictures on instagram and the audience was like we don't want to do that girl we do not do not. We want everything housed in just this podcast.

How did you go about deciding which games you wanted to use and how you're going to implement them into an audio-based sound place? Well, also, I didn't quite understand the project when I initially had signed up for it. I made it very complicated

and maybe a little too hard to produce. There was a lot of work that had to be done on it. So I appreciate Anna and Olivia. Yeah, I don't know. I had been doing a Zoom game show. That was what I did during pandemic. Okay. Like every week I was just like writing a bunch of new jokes and a bunch of new games.

So I had a bunch to pick from to fill, you know, four episodes since I've been doing it like a week. Every week for like a year. And Martin, you're in New York right now, right? You're a New York based comedian. Yes. I love it here. Are you from out there? No, I'm from Texas.

Oh, okay. But I have been here six years today, actually. Oh, wow. Happy anniversary. No, it's not actually today, but like in a couple of weeks. But doesn't it feel special when I say it's today? It does. It feels serendipitous.

Also, but it feels like a thing like you could tell people in New York they wouldn't give a fuck. Like if you're like, hey, actually, six years since I moved to the city, huh? They're like, get the fuck out of my way. Everybody remembers, actually, when I moved here. Because I feel like I see that all the time in L.A. Like you'll go to like Griffith Park or like a park and somebody's having like a party and then you overhear them being like you've been in la for five years party and i'm like what the fuck is that shit okay cool listen we it takes some time to adjust okay you don't know because you've been here

forever i'm scum i'm local scum i know know. When you migrate here, you're like, oh, crap. How am I going to do anything here? It's so hard. I have no money. You got to pay to get in everywhere. Street festivals cost money here. It makes no sense. It's a wild space. That's why we snuck in everywhere. You're like, I survived 10 years. It's like, I don't want to compare it to a prison sentence.

But sometimes you're chalking it up. Like, I did it. Another year. I didn't leave. I stayed. I'm making it happen. It's the one prison where the prisoners try to like move up to the next nicer prison. Like a next deal that they're in. And now I'm in this creative prison. It's actually, this prison is a lot better than the last one. Still a prison though.

Kyle, we got to ask you, our guest, what's something from your search search herstory i'm in history that is revealing about who you are my search is gender neutral so herstory or history are both fine by me uh from my the last thing i google search was how do you know when jalapenos are ready to pick oh i have a jalapeno plant that's doing very well oh i only plant this doing well it's right out my window and i i don't i'm so i'm like when do you when can you eat them yeah and it everything you look up they're just like kind of you know which is not helpful like in any capacity right they're just like you know you know look at look at them when they look like it and i'm like well i don't they don't look like they're on top of nachos at

a baseball game so i need you to give me more information they don't don't have the same vinegary taste that they do out of the can. They're like other peppers, though, where they change colors, right? Yeah, that's, I mean, it's, you know, you dive into any world, but the world plant people really, every world has like a deep culture, but plant people seem to be an isolated deep culture. It's like I Googled, likeled what happens if no one likes you. So it turns out they've been ready this whole time. One caterpillar ate

a whole jalapeno and I'm like that dude is vibing somewhere. You got the hungry caterpillar in your house? Now he's over in a different plant that he's at. He's like wearing a drug-rugged poncho. I made a wing sauce with him. It was so hot that it cleared my nasal

passages wait so I'm just doing this alone how big like I mean how big are your jalapeno peppers getting them because when I see them at the store I see like some thick ones these ones are these ones are are uh less store more farmer's market sad stand that you're like avoiding eye contact as you leave right because the guy has three they're doing all right i have like and they keep growing which is nice it makes me feel the rest everything else is dying tomatoes aren't doing good everything else dying but jalapenos has the jalapeno before right when you logged on before we went on mike we noticed that you're a smoothie gang joelle are you smoothie gang too are you smoothing it up okay so power smoothie

i can see the color through your straw seems like a traditional red, berry-ish vibe at the very least. There's a lot of dragon fruit in this. I'm not going to lie. Okay. A lot of dragon fruit. Kyle, you lifted your cup. Now, can you lift it into frame one more time? I'm looking at this cup.

What is in that? I don't know. Aside from dirt. It looked... I don't know. I don't know. But one of the things... Coconut, but that's not that color., coconut, but that's not that color.

Spinach, but that's not that color. And they're also not the colors that mix together. It's, I don't know. It has some ingredients like, I don't know a lot of these more obscure fruits and vegetables and things. And I'm afraid to pronounce them. I, one time I was a judge on a spelling bee and I had to give out the words. And this was a charity spelling bee for like Warby Parker in the Lower East Side. So picture the people that are at this, right?

Wait, who are the contestants? Like the Warby Parker employees, like the CEO, like all the, it's like a corporate event for them. It's like their Christmas party. And I said out loud to these people your your word is akai oh no and i've never seen more thick frame glassed white people upset right it's literally like i accused them of gentrifying the lower east side they were all so defensive so quickly people were screaming acai.

And I'm like, look, I can't even afford the fruit that's your spelling word. Right, right, right. That's also just the irony of those people being like, oh, you're mispronouncing it. Yeah. Excuse me. Sorry, no one here actually wears prescriptions. And it was just I. So I'm afraid to say whatever is in this

smoothie but it's a lot of a's and o's and bals asparagus you're like i don't know is that what it is it's got some aspergis uh asparagus right i think cacao i think i'm dyslexic every time i see cacao i think it's cocoa same oh i just when i see it i just think of it as the thing that wasn't actually chocolate growing up like when you saw like in la i remember like in the eight like 90s and shit to like with cacao and it looked brown and i'd be like oh really and i'm like that's not fucking the fuck out of here with this shocky as hell cacao has not made its way to missouri yet let alone when i was growing up. Yeah, no, you're good. You're better off. And look

at you. You're drinking healthy stuff and I'm drinking old, stale ranch waters. I thought you were going to say Old Bay. I'm drinking Old Bay. Just a nice cup of Old Bay. A cup of watered down Old Bay seasoning. It could be tasty.

Caleb, what's something you think is underrated? Ooh, democracy. I was thinking about this earlier. Everybody's like, ooh, we got to protect it. It's like, I remember it. It was like six years ago we had it, and it sucked. Like, I know it's worse now, but everybody's like, oh, democracy. It's like, it's fine.

I hate having to pretend it's so good. It's better than not democracy, but it's not it's fine i hate having to pretend it's so good it's like it's better than not democracy but it's not the shit right party is like i you know can we like it feels like a lot of people want a certain thing but even though there's a majority of people that want it it's still not happening how does this work exactly right democracy it got us bushed twice it got i mean it's not the it's not the shit it's okay it's just hard to it's hard to hold that sign up i'm like wait so wait you think this is overrated i think it's overrated okay okay got you got you got you i asked it was under i was like oh

yeah underrated no no we're gonna stay on democracy though because it is overrated it is i mean it's not that great in our you know uh the republic in which we live in you know clearly that's the distinction we always have to make uh yeah it's i mean we have a system that's very easily hijackable if you got a ton of money and that's all we see is the news channel you can like get you just tell my parents anything and that's gonna happen i'm like hey that's not nice they're like did you know caleb that subway tuna is a hundred percent turtle it's like no it's only part turtle mom right he's saying on fox i heard it was made of yoga mats and it's like i'm sure it's not all the way because i've i've licked my yoga mat and it doesn't taste yeah look it's like subway bread

i tried one of those jalapeno cheddar yoga mats Doesn't hit the same Like the bread does You gotta toast that yoga mat They don't want you to know That's the thing, you gotta give it to Quiznos I have not tasted my yoga mat I'm gonna be honest with you guys But I have done downward dog You haven't worked out hard enough

I've done downward dog on a couple subway breads And let me tell you man I'm not as stable on them joints You're leaving flavor on that mat man You're leaving flavor on that mat subway bread saying let me tell you man i'm not as stable on them i'm not as stable on them joints you're leaving flavor on that mat man you leave a flavor on that i'm leaving flavor on the mat it's like a it's like a cast iron skillet you know you gotta don't wash it it's like it's like the cupcake paper you know at the bottom oh yeah you know you're gonna leave all that cake on there i don't think so like that shit oh it's like the cheese on the mcdonald's wrapper oh the wrapper

that's the best cheese one that's phase one that's the first thing i do and then you look at the little corners that are left on the wrapper you go oh i got your ass talking dirty to your cheek yeah it's so wild how i still even in case you bringing that up, the excitement I felt of just being like, oh, you fucked up. Yes. You're mine now. It's good. It's good. That's the best part of any burger is the cheese on the wrapper.

And don't be ashamed to just bite the fucking paper off. Like I said, when I was a kid, I used to eat the little cupcake paper. So I think we know underrated is paper. There you go. Eating straight paper. Jackie, what's something you think is overrated? You know, I read this in the email. My first thought, if I didn't try and edit it,

Tupac. Wow. Come out swinging. And not that he's not, he wasn't a gift to the culture. All the culture is mostly mine. He was, he is, but, you know, I'm an East Coast girl. I'm always going to be Biggie till I die.

Right. You know, and Tupac to me, he was just so, he was just so disturbed in genius ways that I'm like, how much of it was that? How much of it was talent? genius ways that I'm like, how much of it was that? How much of it was talent? How much was just, he was angry because he was, you know, he understood the world as it was and hated the world. He didn't have much power.

He felt hated or misunderstood. So all that, to me, I like about, a few songs I like. I don't really find him to be the club, let's go dance, Tupac. No, you're not. No one's throwing it back to Tupac. That's for sure. That doesn't happen.

And it's funny, growing up in L.A., especially at the height of the East Coast, West Coast beef, I've always preferred East Coast rap. Like the golden era of rap in New York is one of my favorite genres of music. And that's no disrespect to the to the west coast scene because the west coast scene is you know every every part of the united states has contributed to what we have as hip-hop today but for sure personally i like a biggie punch line more than like the pros of tupac yeah because i feel like that's sort of the difference in their like lyrical style and i think yeah for the longest time people were like well which one's better and i've always been like they aren't comparable like yeah they are comparable they would never be in the same cypher like you you wouldn't see

tupac trying to battle biggie like that this is not how that's that's not how they engaged with him and whenever they had an album together or a song they were probably forced they're probably like look y'all y'all gotta put our shit together because quash is east coast west coast crap right you know they didn't have a natural friendship they tried to but realized we just don't mesh yeah i came up in the era of the south got something to say that's where i recited on it i like i like tupac and biggie although both have songs i cannot listen to sometimes biggie's so dirty i was like oh my god yeah he was a sex symbol it's very it's very weird but he was a sex symbol yeah well i mean a lot of the 90s you're like huh you said what about what yeah well you listen to him and little kim lyrics you're like this is not

you got to be 30 at least to listen to this shit i feel the same way about trina i was like oh my way oh my god trina is such a like you can, nowhere near your family. Can you put Trina on it? Oh, no. I remember, I remember I had, like, the, like, a mini poster of the Lil' Kim hardcore album cover. Like, on, like, a translucent binder thing. And my mom saw it. She's like, what? Is that Playboy? I said, no, this is Lil' Kim.

This is music, ma. This is hardcore. Okay, this is a big mama thing. One of my favorite tracks. You know what's funny? Back in the day, back in the TLC days, when they had condoms on their clothing as part of it, I had a keychain that had a condom in the glass in high school. And I came home one day and my mom broke the glass, took the condom out.

I forgot all about that until now. Why? And I was like, so you don't want me to? Yes. I don't, do you or don't, I don't know what the mixed signal here,

but yeah, it reminded me of that. It was like on that don't advertise it tip. Yeah, exactly. It was like on a key change-out. It was for decoration. That's not the one

you want to use when you're trying to get down. Right, right, right. I thought it was in glass, like great glass in case of emergency. And very dangerous for the gentleman involved in that situation. All the risk he has to take now, but you know.

Wait, it was in a glass? It was in like a keychain like this. It was inside the glass in between. Oh, got it. So like in a glass case, a yeah break in case of smashing yeah smashing case of smashing yeah yeah exactly there it is okay okay all right uh well we'll take let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk about some news after this i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

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And toxic men seem to be at the wheel of many things. And we see it manifesting all over the place. You got white men that are angry that they're losing status. So they double down on xenophobia and racism. They see themselves as less potent gender equality as an existential threat. So we get even more severe laws that restrict people's body autonomy so many conservatives

are living in this like fucked up hell world where men are at risk of being wiped off the face of the earth because someone used the word patriarchy in front like around them which feels like just the general vibes like what so I'm the fucking bad guy now like oh and you're like what yo chill the

fuck out and also yes but we see it in like i brought up the fake ass tough guy persona of like ted cruz when he wants to act like a real badass when he is a shook one with a like a noodle spine and we definitely saw it a couple weeks ago with senator Josh Hawley. So for those that don't recall, Josh Hawley is a senator from Missouri. He on January 6th, there's a very famous picture of him gassing up the rioters. He's like giving them like the power fist. Like, yeah, y'all going to fucking fuck shit up in the Capitol. Do your thing. Take back your country.

And then when shit got so dire in the actual Capitol, he fucking ran away for his life like some non-patriot man. What the fuck was that, Josh? So I just to set the table, I just want to like before we get into his response about the January 6th stuff, I just want people to understand where Josh Hawley comes from, like as a guy, like as an American politician. He did not step out of an 80s movie. he's not the bully in an 80s movie i mean he he's like a guy who it's like a like it's almost like a villain origin story where you the whole time you think you're like this is the bully grown up and he's the villain and it's actually the victim of the bully who like became the bully after years like crime it was you noodle

the whole time yeah so i just want to play this clip of him saying this out loud at a conference of other like-minded creeps and just you know listen to this this is his explanation as to why i'm just masculinity in america's going down theing drain. We'd be surprised that after years of being told that they are the problem, that their manhood is the problem, more and more men are withdrawing into the enclave of idleness and pornography and video games. I found the comment by one young man to a Wall Street Journal reporter particularly evocative.

Particularly. And particularly heartbreaking. Particularly. He said, I'm sort of waiting for a light to come on so I can figure out what to do next. That sounds like someone who's just been crushed by capitalism. But sure, that does sound bad men are i'm i'm i am pissed right now he is stealing all of my material that's straight from my stand-up the idleness of manhood right now pornography video games so you know he's like one of these guys who's constantly like banging the drum be like yo the

left is on a campaign to make men less masculine and diminish their role in family life in order to bring about the end of the white family which is where all these roads lead which is all just off the tree of like anti-semitic tropes about like who's really trying to destroy the american family kind of shit and anyway that guy the one who is very secure in his dickness uh was probably not going to react well to a room full of people laughing their asses off at a clip of him running like a scared shook one uh and that's what happened during the january 6 commission when they played the footage of him like on a security camera like running like away from the like rotunda to be like oh fuck get me out of here and you could hear the whole audience

be like they're like that's the guy earlier who was so rah-rah about the fucking insurrection well he has now combined the absurdity of that earlier sort of speech that i played for you uh and he is now melding that with his anger at the people for seeing how scared he was to announce that he is a man actually just so you know so much so in fact that he is writing a book on manliness and i don't know how much of a better defense you can come up with and saying i'm right i'm literally writing the book on manliness so back the fuck up what's it called you know get ready martin what would you call it i mean i'm guessing if you were doing this as a very transparent play to be like i i felt emasculated

in this clip now i'm gonna double down by saying I'm writing the book on masculinity. What would you title it? Twelve Rules for Living Your Life. That feels about right. Was that Jordan Peterson book? Wasn't it that? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Right. Some dumb shit like that. Wait, what did you say, Joelle? I said no vaginas. How to be a man. No. Right. Exactly.

Well, both were close. It's called manhood. The masculine virtues Americans need. Josh, shut the fuck up. Oh, my God. It's inspired. Oh, my God. Hold on, Joelle.

Let me tell you if it's inspired by some really cool shit, though, too. This is from, I think, the Kansas City, the local paper saying, quote, the book appears to be a more in-depth version of the speech which i told i played an extract from in which holly will draw from greek and roman philosophers jesus and his political icon teddy roosevelt he'll focus on traits he defines as masculine responsibility bravery fidelity and leadership he just hopped on 4chan he was like okay so they're quoting some greeks and romans great teddy roosevelt carried a gun uh none of that conservation shit we're not gonna talk about none of that but the gun part he was in the army dope or the navy so that'll be perfect and uh okay cool yeah bravery this sounds like the whatever they put like well you know in high school you get like a little

it's like a school quote and then it'll be like i don't know oh yes responsibility like these are our core value beliefs like you sound yeah like a child i also think if you have to write a book on how to be masculine i don't know man i don't know you man. I don't know. He sounded insecure in the daylight. We got to read the book, to be fair, before we can... I don't think so. I think so. I mean, read the book in its entirety, at least twice, just so that we can really know. Have we thought

about this? I think, like, you know, as men, we should think about this. Like, he said, you should never sit down to pee. What? Yeah. That's a great rule. I think that's cool. I mean, I don't know that. I feel like that's the kind of shit that's going to be in his book. It's like sitting down to pee is a slippery slope to you being in like a reprogramming camp to pick your new gender, which is how all of these fucking people think.

But just so you guys know, because if it's just when you thought it couldn't get fucking weirder. No. Because look, the book is about compensating for not being man enough. Whatever the fuck even thinks a man is. He's going to be doing some press and some promotion that he tied to the announcement of this book being released prior to the release. He will be one of the keynote speakers at the Stronger Men's Conference. Bitch, what? Well, I'm going to tell you what.

I got the motherfucking trailer for the Stronger Men's Conference 2023 iteration. I'm just going to start a couple seconds in just so you can see. Okay. Tell me if you can make sense of what this fucking conference is when I play you the

fucking trailer for it. I got my tickets early. Bird special, actually. Oh, but before even knowing Josh Hawley was even announced? Yeah, they're going to be sold out for sure. I mean, off the strength of 2022s. I mean, that was a memorable one. This is just a part of the trailer. Incredible. Space men.

Okay. Immediately incredible. Stock footage. Men. Cowboys. Monster truck. Fire. Phallic space. I like to call them penis fires. U.S. Senator. All these people I never heard of.

A guy swinging a flaming log. A guy riding a bull. Someone boxing. Oh, shit. Oh, they got the Jesus hands hands up they're really crazy and fight to win okay so in what you know the fucking race war they don't got to tell you out loud what the fuck they're talking about we got to fight to win the race war against the communists or whatever the fuck you're talking about did did you see the imagery in this so for people i know we were just ranting over it we got to fight to win the race war against the communists or whatever the fuck you're talking about.

Did, did you see the imagery in this? So for people, I know we were just ranting over it. What did we see? We saw a bunch of space dicks being launched into there. I don't know why there was repeated rocket launch footage, but I get it.

Cause there's a space race and we like Elon Musk. That was trending for a while. So space. Okay. Boxing is the manliest of sports surprisingly no football or basketball shots like boxing is essentially the only what i'm gonna call a sport uh you also saw some monster trucks yep a very strong man spinning some fire a flaming log it looked like a telephone pole was not a small, it was not a baton, y'all. It was very much a log. Because this is a man. Yes, because

he's a man, right. Because man. Not dinky. Bigger, better. We get it. Pretty much what you might see your dad flip through on a Sunday when he's tired. If you just rapid fire flipping through channels, these are like his favorite channels, you know? You have that setting on your satellite dish or whatever. Right, right, right.

Those are the images you would see. Like Spike TV. Yeah, exactly. It was very Spike TV vibes. It was everything Spike TV stood for, but condensed into like a 40-second montage with stock footage. So there will be monster trucks. I don't know.

Can't think of a manlier event than that or people who couldn't know less what who they are than if they have to go to something like that uh pretty tragic i just josh howley is one of those people who can't ever like you only ever see him yelling directly to the camera or talking directly to his audience because if he had to do any kind of debate he would crumple immediately as we saw recently in the um congressional like discussions on abortion where he was just going after this professor and she was like okay but like let's take a step back what did you actually say and what do you actually believe oh so that's violent that i'm denying the existence are you denying their existence sir is that you can a man get pregnant no okay well then he's like i don't know a man might i'm going to the stronger men's conference in a few months and there may be a different speaker they're showing

that men can do anything so elated at men wanting to be able to be like listen now we are the creators of life be being able to like grow develop and then push out a baby is the most badass thing a woman can do and i'm shocked that men aren't like fuck it and now we can do it too clearly we're the superior like sex right yeah well i'm sure they i'm sure they'd want something like that but yeah we'll see at the stronger men's conference what comes with that but i know the harlem globe trotters that may have performed at a previous one it's it's i think it's probably this intersection of like christian like evangelical stuff and like sort of like a convention to try and court more young people into being fascists i want to apologize

to the hotel staff in advance this can't be a pretty weekend for you. Now you see a lot of weird conferences come and go, but this is going to be really hell for the ladies. I hope the men step up and really, you know, y'all clean the bedrooms and stuff this week or something. Give these women some time. That's not what I learned at the stronger men's conference.

Slippery slope, actually. And I heard that the strongest Men conference, Kevin Feige is going to release more Marvel movies. He's going to unveil Phase 69 of the fucking MCU. They love Captain America. So, you know.

Except the actor that plays him. I don't think Chris loves them, but they love them some Cap. Yeah. Let's move on just to check in with the Pope. Pope Francis last week, he made a week long penitential trip to Canada. And I'm sorry, a trip to, you know, going across to apologize for the atrocity that the Catholic Church, you know, their role in residential schools. in residential schools.

And many people were hoping that he would pull up as the face of the Catholic church, the leader of the church and offer, you know, like proper acceptance and say, you know what? We fucked up. That was our bad. We need to right our wrongs and this is how we will make them right. So that didn't happen.

Just, you know, for starters, there was a lot of pressure like for a visit because more graves were discovered at the sites of former residential schools last year. And Canada's Truth and Reconciliation Commission called for the pope to come to Canada and apologize back in 2015. And only now, seven years later, did it finally happen. It's like, oh, why would you drag your feet? Right. You're going to go and accept your responsibilities though it's a little under the seven years well yeah uh for the survivors were quick to criticize the pope's apology which you know used the language of saying that quote members of the church and religious communities cooperated in residential schools while not actually saying

that like the entire institution as a whole or the collaborators like in this institutionalized abuse and you know murder of children so the pope didn't really also commit to you know the one word that will always hope we will see some reality around reparations for survivors or funds to continue the search for burial sites. But because there's all this scrutiny, the Catholic Church committed to raising $30 million to, quote, support reconciliation projects for survivors. And people said, oh, that sounds like a decent amount of money. However, if you look, they have what many people called a weasel clause because they

just said they would raise the money through their, quote, best efforts. Well, as we know, these cemetery sites are a tax incentive. So I'm sorry. It's all it's all it's all very murky. Doing PR for the Catholic Church has to be an exhausting thing for everyone involved. You either have to fully believe everything they're saying or you have to have no moral scruples and saying absolute nonsense at the expense of like all of these people that have had their lives ended or damaged irreversibly. But their best effort to raise that 30 million, they they raise less than four million. So they fell short by almost 90 percent of that goal of like their best, quote unquote, effort. And just you put all of that money into perspective. They said, yeah, we can try and raise 30 in 2016.

The Catholic church managed to raise and invest 128 million for a cathedral in Toronto. So some of that priceless art church sell some of that priceless art church. Yes. And that is fucking ridiculous. And that is something that they've had to do. Like a lot of people had said,

Hey, you know, y'all have a lot of fucking assets that you could you know just liquidate and make people whole just want to hell of gold up in there have to put autographs some da vinci code copies and sell those online even the blu-rays seriously oh hey well you know you don't got a smartphone get them on cameo give a fuck start doing some came Cameo. One Cameo. Man, the Pope could... I mean, for how weird Catholic people are about the Pope, I'm sure you could get up.

I think one of the most optimistic times is when we thought that the Pope was good. Remember this guy? The problem was we were ranking him against other Popes, and the last one was a Nazi. The bar is just nazi or not nazi and we're like this guy's got to be good he washes feet he's not a nazi he used to be a bouncer he probably uh isn't just also still a

terrible person well you know it just means you got a run point for the he's probably not complicit in uh millennia of crime like he's like no no see i'm i'm here to make everybody forget about that because i'm a real old guy letting steam out of his collar a very very fancy pope garb did the pope just say a new pope they were like oh no That's when the smoke comes out. Yeah. It's time to get a new one. It's gone bad. And all in all, just in terms of like what this apology was, the Canadian government basically said like, dude, that really didn't go far enough. And they know about apologies up there. That is like apology culture.

Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, I mean, they even say sorry in their own way that we all know very well. Unlike in our fucked up country where we don't know that word at all. Actually, it's actually fuck you rather than sorry. And so the pope at least called for a, quote, serious investigation into the church's abuse in these residential schools. But then they wait. No, they later walked back that statement by clarifying that it was a translation error. later walked back that statement by clarifying that it was a translation error. And that what the Pope really meant to say was a serious search, not a serious investigation.

What's the difference? I think investigation sounds, look, a search sounds like some shit you could do on your phone. Okay. An investigation sounds like you got to get in the physical space. Investigation implies potential results. 100%. Searches a bunch of people in the woods knowing there's no one alive in there. And a lot of people are saying, you know, you don't have to do that much because there are thousands of pages in the Vatican that are naming the clergy who were parties to this abuse. So maybe you don't have to do much except maybe

what you got back there i hate the church and i see somebody who was raised catholic and did everything up to confirmation and the idea that you would come down and talk to these people and and not at the very least have some kind of plan and a whole ass load of cash ready to go day one like thousands of babies are dead thousands and y'all are coming off of a scandal where millions of children were assaulted over years and and you helped you helped it happen by moving people around and being like god forgive so what can we do i don't know how they expect this to help them with their drastically dwindling numbers i don't know how they expect this to help them with their drastically dwindling numbers i don't know what good they thought this would do like it's the base pr we're

in the age of the apology of the professional apology so you had to have known better at least to some extent your pr you have great pr folks you pay a lot of money for them they had to know better yeah imagine the pope drops like a notes app apology oh yeah with like with like the red like misspelled words lines appearing there investigation is spelled wrong yeah it says investigate toin he screenshots it and we're just dragging him because his phone battery is dying yeah we're like no you look how many unread Gmails he has. Fucking reckless. But this whole thing, right, it's all part of this same pattern of just like, hey, yeah, that's bad. And then when people say, what about action?

I mean, this is par for the course for many organizations and industries that have these kinds of histories. They're truly giving cops a run for their money on taking care of their own issues. Seriously. And there's this also moment when the Pope was in Canada, that he was at this event, an apology event, and he was gifted a headdress. And a lot of indigenous leaders were really pissed off about that because they were like, this does not this is not the fucking this is not something we want to be interacting with the pope in this capacity to give him a headdress. And he was wearing this headdress during the ceremony. And the Vatican's like newspaper took like a picture of him wearing it. And it basically to sort of give the optics, it's like all good in Canada.

Pope flawless with the apology tour when in fact it wasn't. And there was just, you know, a lot of words, not a lot of action. And it didn't seem like much other than trying to just maintain whatever the church's reputation was, however good or bad that that is. And just so you know, for the cost of this one trip, they could have just paid the reparations to survivors. Of course. I want to go to bed. This visit cost it potentially between 50 and 100 million dollars for this papal visit papal visit however you want to pronounce that oh man well they used taylor swift's jet so that saved them a little bit yeah exactly cut down

on the emissions i think that's what her team meant when they're like it's not actually all her fault we leased the jet to the pope too and that's right wild so talk to him please uh rabid followers although his aren't on twitter it doesn't seem like imagine you tweet i hate the pope and then like at pope stan 69 it's like you just don't understand him yeah wait just wait oh really have you heard these speeches then talk to me about his oration skills. If we want this to get, I think we need to start thinking of alternative ways to get these sort of situations fixed. We need to start like getting actionable people to do things. We need to make the Pope say something bad about BTS.

Oh, to create like the kind of polarity. If he said something bad about BTS, there would be irreparable damage done to him on the internet by 11-year-olds. There would be nothing he could do about it. They are the most block. Oh, right. So, yo. Okay, and I hate to, you know,

like articulate a conspiracy theory out loud, but what we're saying is we need to create like a QAnon type movement where we're saying that the Pope has been against like these gigantic fandoms to mobilize the fandoms against the Catholic Church. Yes. Okay. I think that BTS fans are like a high school band. They're the largest voting block that actually exists.

And if you can get them on your side, then you'll be doing okay. All right. Well, I one time tweeted who's more famous oprah or bts and i have never gotten more replies to a tweet in my entire life oh my god and i've never been swatted more times in my life for merely positing the question so just get bts fans to think that the pope hates them and that they will raise the money i feel like they're too smart they're going to be like look we weren't fucking with the pope because of the residential schools. We don't need.

You're probably. You're probably right. Of course. You're probably right. They're an educated. The children will lead the way. The children will lead the way. All right.

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Alex Jones is in the stand, is taking the stand for his defamation case because he's been saying Sandy Hook was a false flag. Nothing happened. These are actors, crisis actors, et cetera. The parents are suing him. This is one of like three defamation court trials he has to face. He's being sued by the parents, obviously. He always says, oh, it's performance art. It's, you know, I'm not, I don't really mean what I say, et cetera, et cetera. And the case was looking up

and down, but mostly not great for Alex Jones. It's like the evidence was mounting against him. But then in this moment, the lawyer that's representing the Sandy Hook parents, this guy, Mark Bankston, he basically I don't know. He's like, hey, man, I have all your texts because your lawyers sent them to me. And he's like, so I know you lied about never talking about Sandy Hook in your text or your emails. And it's like this fucking it's wild. I'm gonna play the audio for you because it's, it's pretty, pretty breathtaking. So you did get my text messages and it said you didn't. Nice trick. Yes, Mr. Jones. Indeed. You did give this text message to me. You don't, you don't know where this came from. Do you know where I got this? No.

You don't know where this came from. Do you know where I got this? No. Mr. Jones, did you know that 12 days ago, 12 days ago, your attorneys messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cell phone with every

text message you've sent for the past two years, and when informed, did not take any steps to identify it as privileged or protected in any way and as of two days ago it fell free and clear into my possession and that is how i know you lied to me when you said you didn't have a text message about saying look at him did you know that's on the show i see i told you the truth this is your perry mason moment i gave you with my phone and then mr jones you need to answer the question

mason moment i gave them my phone and then mr jones you need to answer the question anyway so this goes on and alex jones like oh this is your perry mason moment fucking cooked again i just want to say you can't see it but they pan over to alex jones's lawyer as the guy's like yo fam your lawyer sent this to me he's he's trying to act cool about it he's like rubbing his lip with his index finger like no this is all good this is all cool no we're good i'm this is no problem what's also amazing i love that you can hear the adrenaline in that lawyer's voice as he's telling like alex was like do you know how I got these text messages? It's like he was waiting to fucking just dunk on this motherfucker. Drop that fucking hammer.

That's 10th grade mock trial. He's been ready. Oh, yeah, 100%. The last time I felt an adrenaline rush like that, I feel like when I play Uno with my nieces and nephews, and I'm just stacking up a ridiculous hand, so I'm just stacking all wild draw fours, and then just fucking go out on them in three moves and watch their jaws drop. That's the closest thing I could ever experience to what that man just did.

Anyway, so everything about this is really, really fucking amazing, to be honest. It's funny. I want to see the fallout. I am interested in what the fallout of this specific part is going to be. I know, you know, some people are saying that he could drop his lawyers for malpractice or something. He's trying to go. He asked for a mistrial. His lawyers asked for a mistrial because of that. And it didn't happen. The judge was like, no, because I don't know if you heard. Right. Mark Bankston, how he says, like, you know, I got this Bankston, how he says like, yo, I got this 12 days ago. And he's like, and now it's not privileged or anything.

I can I can use this now against you as evidence. And so what turns out what happened was one of the one of the fucking paralegals on Alex Jones team dropped a fucking file into a Dropbox folder that was meant for shared evidence between the between the plaintiffs and the defense and basically dropped it in the shared fucking evidence folder now there is there like there are protections in the state of texas for shit like that like there's like a 10-day period where you can reclaim the evidence and ask for it to be sealed and be like that was errantly handed over we can't actually have you know, they can't actually submit that. But when that time came and the mistake was made, they just like basically told Mark Bankston, the lawyer for the Sandy Hook families, to just quote, please disregard that.

That wasn't an official saying that was privileged information that was errantly transmitted to you. I need to have it sealed based on this statute, they just say hey please disregard they were like no like we downloaded that shit if you're not properly going to take the steps to protect that then guess the fuck what we are going to surprise motherfucker through in court so that's exactly what happened so i feel bad for that part no i don't feel bad for that paralegal if anything that paralegal helped a lot because now the January 6th committee, they're like, hey, man,

let me get those text messages really quick from you. Because if you remember, Alex Jones was in and around there quite a lot during January 6th. So there could be a few. Who knows what the ramifications are. I mean, we're yet to see what the real ramifications are

from the January 6th committee. But the only thing I'll say is. I would all of this January 6th is Alex Jones shit, all of it, man. White people know they get to stay in court for a long ass time. The longest motherfucker that stayed in court that was black was O.J. And then they still got, got you know was only on trial for like four or five months these motherfuckers have been in on trial and

getting dispositioned and meetings and shit for two three four five years like put these do something like in this shit they survived to go to trial which seems like the less likely outcome in other circumstances if this was a bunch of black people this trial would have been over in three hours.

On the steps of the Capitol, it would have been over. Yeah, well, true. It wouldn't even got there. Just like, damn, man. These motherfuckers. You want to know something even more disgusting, right? So his lawyers were like, we need a mistrial. They're like, this is your own.

You're self-owned. What your own this you fuck you self-owned what the fuck you talking about in the closing statement his lawyer like in trying to make alex jones seem you know like a victim or someone that deserves their sympathy he like recited that like holocaust poem of like when they came for them i said nothing and then like when they came for me no one was there you know like that that like the poem about just sort of being able to speak up in the phase of oppression in trying to paint alex jones as some kind of fucking freedom of speech like revolutionary so i have a feeling that jury is hopefully we'll come back with a very swift verdict but who knows who knows a lot to unpack

there but yeah you'd love to see those people fuck themselves up because you know that in a way that's a light light reminder of universal karma right i wish i could have i wish i could have been a fly on the wall when he went to the back with his lawyer's team like oh yeah finding that out man he's like i'm done they got me i don't know who and he keeps saying he's like man if the judgment is more than two million dollars i'll be finished but then people also found out through those uh that file that they errantly transmitted to them they're like uh it said at one point you were making eight hundred thousand dollars a day on a good day god damn so miss me with this i only got two million shit yeah man hate hate

pays i i filed for bankruptcy yeah you filed for bankruptcy there's a big difference you're not bank you just applied that's like me saying hey man i'm in harvard they're like oh you are well i applied to harvard okay well you're not in harvard then you applied yeah but i might be in there i don't know it's the tactical baths separate LLC? Because I'm going to say that the profits from the tactical bath amass over $2 million alone. Right? Yeah, seriously. There's so much money in saying weird shit. Yeah. There's just so much money.

And look, if you have no moral scruples, there's an audience for some of that terrible, terrible shit. Like, clearly, I mean, $800K a day at certain stretches of like info wars popularity frontline did a pretty good special on alex jones called united states conspiracy that i recommend if you need your alex jones primer it goes back into his history a little bit the frontline is really good at not talking about elephants in the room but put the evidence always pushes you to this inevitable conclusion they're kind of quiet about huge issues sometimes where race is at the center of an enormous topic but they don't really talk about it or women's rights are at the center of an enormous topic but you still wind up in this place where it's like oh this is intensely

fucked up they're really good at it uh and the alex jones ones is it's pretty excellent because it's so easy to just be like this dude is a fucking buffoon right right and that's the elephant they leave out they don't talk about how fucking dumb he is and how dumb all this shit people are saying that believe all this stuff are but they do a really effective job of sort of explaining how he got to this position and the position he is in now. Right. And as someone who was like, who is this cultural figure? It was a helpful primer.

So it leaves out some important information about how stupid it all is, but it is an excellent catch up on how the hell Alex Jones became a national figure. Right. And hockey nutraceuticals. Yes. Get your nutraceuticals, folks. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist. Please like and review

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