The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 254 (11/28/22-12/2/22)

Episode Date: December 4, 2022

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Speaking of hero, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a reporter who you know from the NFL Network as a TV presenter. Isn't it? I like TV presenter as a thing.

Yeah, that's very British. She's also the host of the podcast Benched with Bonetta. It's Rachel Bonetta! Hi, guys! What's up? Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here. To go backwards, there is no other apple that exists

other than a Granny Smith in my world. I don't need to dabble. I don't need to test out new flavors. Yeah. Come on. I feel you. Yeah. You're begging to be let down at this point.

And I really think we should retire the Red Delicious. Yeah, the Red Delicious. I think we've all agreed sucks. I mean, it's just, it's a pretty looking apple, I guess. There's something about that, that color where you're just like, wow, that looks like it's not going to suck. But then you have it and you're like, this is the suckiest apple. Why would anyone eat? I just don't understand.

The reason I will eat another apple is if it's covered in like caramel, like a candy apple. I'll mess with anything at that point. Yeah, pretty much. I'm putting anything in my mouth. I feel like the only time I will eat a Granny Smith is when it's covered in caramel because it's too tart. Oh, no, it's a perfect amount of tart. Sounds like you're afraid. It tastes like a crab apple.

Sounds like you're afraid of flavor. Oh, very much so. I'm a coward. Sorry, did they not give you that in the pre-show prep? Yeah, yeah. They prep every guest by going, just so you know, Jack O'Brien, big coward. He's afraid of everything. Including intense tastes that aren't sugar.

Don't mention any sour apples. He actually gets mad. Yes, he starts salivating uncontrollably like Pavlov's dog. Wait, Rachel, have you ever had an apple that's not a granny smith though i feel like i have but i just don't granny smith's my go-to i'm not messing around i'm not even looking at other apples at the grocery store i feel like new apples what are they putting in there okay i'm recently a little bit like shooketh this morning i'm gonna be honest because i just i didn't just realize but like it's kind of been in the back of my brain, but it's kind of been brought to my attention that all of the candles that I've been burning in my house is just filled with cancerous materials.

And now all of a sudden I'm like, well, what else has it? What else do I need to cut out of my life that brings me joy? And I feel like a new apple on the scene, screaming artificial. I want to know what was in your candles. Now I'm afraid that. beneficial i want to know what what was in your candles now i'm afraid that guys any any candle any candle you've ever burned in your life is just cutting a minutes off of the end is that true we're done it's christmas time yeah i love the smell of christmas we've been doing candles for a while i feel like i don't know and i guess we've been dying of cancer dying of cancer we've been dying

of cancerous situations later on in life. That's true. That's true. I'm at the point in my place that it's like it's Christmas time. I want to feel festive.

You know, maybe later on in life I'm not going to want to be around. I'm going to be old and just like rickety and I'm going to enjoy my time now

with my candles. Yeah. That's the situation that I've been faced this morning. Yeah, that's how I feel about heroin too.

So you just do it. We're all going to die someday. Live your life, man. Live your life. Yeah, slow it down a little bit with a little heroin. Heroin. What is something from your search history? Okay, so I have been holding a baby a lot and i'm like well this will just make my

arms naturally like chiseled and my forearms will be strong because i'm holding a baby yeah not happening uh not happening fast enough so i was it's more just repetitive strain injury and like it's like tendonitis is happening real fast so i'm i'm looking up forearm workouts oh yeah and like they're pretty easy because you can just stay stationary and i haven't even done them i've just looked them up and i think forearms are probably the hottest part of well men i'm straight and like dudes but uh but i don't know anyone maybe i don't know i've never really admired forearms on women. But I think it's just lifting, putting your

arm... So I'm looking at forearm workouts. That's what I'm looking at. You could get one of those things tennis players in the 80s would use. It was like an arm brace with a tightening rod, and you just flexed your wrist. It's like a machine that you just kind of flex your wrist

over and over for people. Miles is revving a motorcycle, an imaginary motorcycle. I think I just want to be able to lift the baby with one hand. Like, oh, I just have your shit.

Yeah. Wait, so where are you most feeling it? You said like, are you like, you get an elbow pain? I already have, I have repetitive strain injury

from a lot of computer use and other bullshit. But yeah, like right in by the elbow it hurts yeah it's because the head the goddamn head yeah so big how am i supposed to run from the saber tooth with this head just like this floppy headed baby right so yeah that's what i've been looking up also i was looking up and i i feel i looked up ch Grace Moritz, the actress, and whether or not she was also Florence Pugh. And I don't understand why those are two different people.

And I think Florence should just subsume Chloe Grace Moritz. Just like I think Dallas Howard should subsume Jessica Chastain. I don't think we need both of them both right yeah too much yeah speaking of like forearms we should just there should be an arm wrestle one can survive my money's on pew and howard oh you got pew and bryce dallas howard in those ones yes face offs okay cool i was actually gonna put money on that bryce dallas howard i just said just said Dallas Howard because I don't know. See, clearly I don't know actors and people will be offended.

They'll be like, they're very different and here's why. I don't think they look the same. Yeah. Francesca, you're embracing the fact that you're a parent. You know what I mean? This is the true mark of a parent is you start saying actors' names wrong. Dallas Howard. I've always done that though.

I'm the worst person in LA because i do not remember anyone's name at all dude i'm surprised you're still working you've been fucking up saying dallas howard oh i'm not working as well give me a job okay i'm done first of all floppy had a baby good good rapper name you know yes there's been a lot of baby renditions but yeah i that is one of my favorite things to think about is like when a person who is like similar looking just comes through and subsumes that like consumes the career of another person yeah it's just yeah there's there was just room for that particular face like for one actor we've talked about it before and i'm completely drawing a blank on like which actor it is but i mean there's another one like when fucking jenna fisher got murked by amy adams

that's it yep remember when amy adams pulled up on the office as katie as like the alternative to pam people were like and even in the show people were like going up to Jenna Fisher's character, Pam. They're like, yo, check out the new, the, like the hotter version of you that Jim's fucking with. And yeah, to this day, I feel like that was like another thing where they both arrived at the same time. And that was part of the bit. That was part of the bit.

Yeah. It's part of the bit, but like, yeah. But I think at that point, Jenna Fisher doing fine. She's like, yeah, yeah, I'll get these checks. Right.

Right. You go ahead and you fuck with the aliens and shit like that. I'm going to just sit back and give looks to camera. Like, yeah. Pullman and Kevin Kline, I guess, have both like succeeded by while looking somewhat similar.

But I think Kevin Kline is like, not at all. Oh my God. They don't like Kevin Kline. Kevin Kline is like... Not at all! Oh my god, you're saying Kevin Kline has like a square-shaped head and Pullman's like a very strong oval... Totally different. Huh. Alright.

You can cut that. No! That was censored. For some reason, I associate them, but they don't have... they're a bad example of this yeah do you remember who we were talking about miles like it was some actor who just like came through and ate someone else's career because they yeah they're similar but i mean i can't remember who it is i was just talking about amy adams the other day that's why that's the top of my mind but like i remember at

the time when kira knightley came out they were like oh she's gonna give natalie portman a run for her there's always like things that happen like this but i feel like they're similar but they're just like one is stretched out though one is like taller natalie portman but still not as similar as dallas howard right and jessica chastain and my i do not like jess Jessica Chastain. I do not like Jessica Chastain. I'm sorry. Yeah. Do not. My brain has room for one red-haired actress at this time.

Thank you. Yeah. Florence Pugh and Chloe Grace Moretz is also a really good example. What's something you think is overrated? Oh, man. I think online shopping is overrated. Cyber Monday. overrated oh man i think online shopping is over overrated cyber monday honestly it's just because i feel like it curbs impulse buying like why like why would we want to curb that that's like the stuff that the retail therapy dopamine is made of like and you can get like extra like extra

gifts for people that you that were actually intended for you. But then you realize you didn't need like if you're actually in person, you can just like impulse buy. But when you're online, you're like, oh, I can second guess that I can just put that in the cart and I can just leave that tab open for 20 years. I call that spiritual layaway because you're like you know what i'm gonna i like the idea of me buying this so i'll go as far to put it in my cart and shit i might hit checkout but don't ask me for those credit card details just yet i'm not there yet and i totally get what you mean because i like when i look at stuff online i'm like oh yeah that'll be cool and like to your point i'm like i don't know i'll be cool. And like, to your point, I'm like, I don't know.

I don't really need all this shit. Like, whereas in person, I remember when they used to have fries, electronics, this like electronics store, there used to be the line to the checkout stand was a gauntlet of impulse buy shit. They're like, try and get through this line without picking up a loose stick of gum or a DVD or some shit or a spindle of rewritable CDs because they got me every time and I'm like yeah to your point I'm like there is there's a power of physical space shopping there is there is and then not to mention it's like the the person at the

checkout line you know they're they can actually convince you to buy even more shit you don't need right but it's a good thing in this season you know because then you always have extra shit to like you know wrap up and it helps the economy which is the thing that controls my mood you know whether the stock market's up or not so that that as long as i'm helping the economy doing my part going out into chain chain and box stores and just, you know, help in America. Go to small businesses. Oh, damn. Yes.

But they're not on the stock market. And that's the only thing that I care about. I just make sure the line go up. You walk in there. Hold on, hold on. Is this gift shop publicly traded? What? All right, never mind. I'm off this.

Oh, can I tell you something? There's a moment in a different world where someone says they say i want somebody who loves shazam in a episode 5 or season 5 episode 13 the name the words shazam are uttered i'm just going to play this really quick because look i don't care what the censors say we have to get to the bottom of this she said she wants i think somebody took her diary hold on where is it someone who loves shazam look at yourself and then jasmine guy's going off anyway just saying found a moment where shazam was evoked on a show where simbad was on a different world what see uh-uh shazam what the fuck that's just but the but the false? Uh-uh. Shazam. What the fuck?

That's Shazam. But the false memory is Sinbad was Shazam. When really Shaquille O'Neal was Kazam. And that is the movie. That's what I'm just saying. So what are they talking about in the show? When they say, I want somebody who loves Shazam. Are they getting the name of Kazam wrong?

No. I think someone stole her diary and they were going through like, she was like, oh, I wish I could find a were going through like the like she was like oh i wish i could find a guy who likes this and she was saying it was just like a throwaway line but the words shazam are i'm saying just very narrowly saying shazam was said on a different world there's just crumbs everywhere no see sin bad was definitely shazam and i think and i think that maybe they like they scrubbed the movie because it was so bad. But I definitely remember watching.

Can you imagine how bad that movie would have to be? That they've kept this conspiracy up. It's even more comprehensive than the JFK assassination conspiracy. I love it. They just covered it up so deeply and like they have an entire wing at the pentagon like full of cia and nsa agents just scrubbing the internet every time somebody like mentions or like posts some piece of definitive evidence of it like they're just on them they just disappear that person oh no yeah i don't know look i like though the idea better that shazam

was a film it was just so bad we can't nobody could watch it yeah i'm more invested in that thank you oya because i needed that yeah now now i'm a shazam truther they were gonna get contacted by some shadowy figures like you don't wanna you don't want to see this movie you don't want i would stop digging if i were you yeah exactly oh you don't want to see this movie. You don't want to. I would stop digging if I were you. Yeah, exactly. Oh, shit. You don't want to see where this thread ends. It ends in the movie Shazam, which is really bad. I know your internet was getting all choppy.

Yeah. And Oya was the one who mentioned it. Oh, no. Yeah. Okay. Never mind. I mean, we love Kazam starring Shaq from 1995. The only Azam movie until the DC one recently.

Yeah. Yes, exactly. I know not of Sinbad. Who is Sinbad? Oh, the sailor. Of course. Of course. Of course.

What's something you think is underrated? Oh, I think cranberry juice is underrated. I'll order a cranberry juice. People always think you have a UTI when you just order a cranberry juice, but I enjoy just drinking a cranberry juice. I feel like we need to normalize ordering cranberry juices with our UTIs. Wow. Wait, just on ice? A little soda? Yeah, just on ice. Just on ice. on ice little soda yeah just on ice just yeah just on ice okay and then is that like is that you at a bar and then you're like you don't want to drink so you get the mixer or do you even look you're like no there's this one i'll go to the store to get a kind of cranberry juice that's a nice sipper both both like if i don't want to drink i'll i'll i'll get a cranberry juice i'll have a cranberry

juice with like dinner i'll have a like anytime juice is around i'm like is a cranberry juice. I'll have a cranberry juice with dinner. Anytime juice is around, I'm like, is there cranberry juice? Wow. I like that with dinner. Almost like wine or something. You're like, no. Yeah, yeah. I'll put it in a chalice.

Yeah, yeah. These cranberries come from Boston. Right, right. Notes of the bog. There's a peatiness to the cranberry. Right. Yeah. I feel like it's definitely one of the more complex juices definitely one of the more allowable juices like you can't order apple juice at a steak restaurant i feel like but oh yeah no unless you're a child you know but yeah cranberry juice even then even then they're like get the wine he's what is he six yeah i like that i'm gonna try that

i just want to have a a glass of cranberry juice and a wine goblet and a wine but yeah yeah just you know because we just our last guest too uh that was on yesterday rowan he was talking about how like he's like man red wine is so overrated he's like it's just too complex you drink it with stuff and he's like a big food guy to is so overrated. He's like, it's just too complex. You drink it with stuff. And he's like a big food guy to say, like, the experience of, like, having to drink super complex red wine with food is just a little weird. And, like, kind of, you know, there's better ways to enjoy wine. Ian, you're a red wine guy, right? I'm a red wine guy.

Yeah. You talked about that in your special. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love a red wine. i got into it during the pandemic okay okay see and like just like in your stand-up when will when will the rappers embrace their wine drinking and let that come out in the lyrics because we see like so many players in the nba

they're like we love red like they're becoming wine connoisseurs. Yeah. It's a thing now. Yeah. I mean, to this point, I feel like the Beastie Boys are the only people to rap Chateauneuf de Pape in their lyrics. So maybe, you know, we could have, I don't know. I don't know what. Well, Snoop has the wine now. Oh, he does?

Yeah, he has 19. He has a thing of 19 crimes. He has his own brand of it. Oh, yeah, that's right. See, bring that in the verses, Snoop. Yeah. Yeah, Snoop can get away with whatever he wants because he's like such a connoisseur of weed

that everyone's just like, well, he's high. Yeah, he's high. Has anyone actually tasted 19 crimes it's the 20th might be drinking it uh i i like 19 crimes it's like my favorite like low like cheap wine oh so it is good okay i'm that's what i'm trying to find out yeah yeah it's good like yeah it's good it's good yeah people drink it people like it all right let's take a quick break we'll come back we'll talk about some news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,

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And we're back. Back. Back, baby. And as we were talking about up top, you know, fewer people are drinking milk, fewer people are drinking sugary beverages, fewer people are like alcohol is probably at any point in human history. Absolutely. Just as like on a per person, per body basis. Yeah. Which sucks because water is boring.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I hate it. There is that. There is that part. Yeah. I would much rather be drinking Mountain Dew or Diet Coke. A hundred percent.

Yeah. But my wife insists that I drink water. She checks on my water consumption daily. My wife? She cares. My wife has a big water

container thing that actually coaches you through. It has the little things written on it. This is a thing that was given to her so she didn't like go out and get it no it's like yeah it's in our house and it it like yells at you it's like chug chug keep going you're almost there all right now start over that's like you're that's one for the day you're a piece of garbage piece of dried out garbage you would blow away in a stiff wind you look like a pile of ash but anyways i don't know how do you guys feel about just water in general i try to drink a lot of it like every single night i will go to bed with a full

cup on my nightstand and then by the morning morning, there's just like, you know, the top layer is just like collected dust from the room. Oh, there's hairs in it. There's a spider. I haven't touched it. Oh, no. There's like little bubbles. Do you ever get those little bubbles in the water

when you've left it for too long? I don't even understand those bubbles. Those bubbles are like, well, you've just been sitting. And it's like, yeah, even understand those bubbles yeah those bubbles are like what you've just been sitting and it's like yeah well we got some guys in here doing some stuff going on don't worry about it we're having our own little ecosystem i usually i agree with you water is boring i usually have to put something in it i usually put like a hydration packet to make it taste like fruit punch so that i'm not actually drinking water. But I'm getting extremely hydrated in the process. I just put ice in it.

If it's cold enough, then I will really, really enjoy it. But yeah, no, I find water to be boring and useless. Yeah. I don't think the human body needs water. You're a water truther. I'm a water truther. I think the water lobby is trying to convince us that body needs water i think you're a water truther i'm a water truther i think the water lobby is trying to convince us that it needs water when really what we need is tall glass of non-fat milk that's right some love and care i do think that like putting a glass of

water on your bedside table and feeling like it's your duty to drink it, which I also do, is probably... That's not something our parents did. Our parents were like, why would I drink water, right? Yeah. When I could dissolve some instant coffee in there. I can't remember a single moment from my childhood.

I remember smashing some milk and putting the chocolate syrup in there. I would drink milk all day long. There's not a single occurrence that I remember in my life of drinking water when i was a child yeah orange juice was the healthiest thing to drink as far as i was concerned when i was a kid yeah dr pepper did no problems for me dr pepper was medically advisable yeah it's a doctor made it uh you know over the counter medicine yeah exactly it's pepper mostly yeah no i used to drink water i remember the first time i got

totally fucking like made fun of for the water that i drank because we had these neighbors over the sonnenbergs bunch of assholes and uh they were like fucking sonnenberg they asked her oh you guys uh can i get a glass of water i was like okay and i brought back water and they drank it and fucking this kid he was just like is this tap water and i literally didn't know what he meant i was like what is tap water it's water yeah like you know how like water comes out of things? Yeah, it's from the tap. It's like, what's a tap, bro? It's water.

It's coming from the water guy. What an asshole. Yeah. And I found out that like people didn't drink tap water. And I was like, okay, well, what do you drink? And they had like one of those sparklets things. And I was like, you fucking bougie pieces of shit so this is the sonnenbergs i'm sorry the main thing but you know since we're all doing it constantly we might as well be good

and thoughtful about it and now there is such a thing as a water sommelier god vice article it's full of absolute bullshit claims like that water on its own is actually not good for the human body come on i'm gonna read this quote uh hot tank h2o with nothing else is distilled water with zero minerality which is not good for the human body it's great for your car battery it's great for your electrical appliances first of all no it's not my friend what are you talking about you don't even know how water works asshole drop your phone in there it'll start working better yeah but it's shit for the human body that's so funny that's like just like the kid from idiocracy going water you mean like from the toilet but he's like gone so galaxy brain about water that he like hasn't like he's stopped understanding

the very basic properties of water that like you shouldn't put electrical appliances in them anyways water you mean it's great for swimming in. Yeah. That's what it's great for shower, but it's not great inside body. Right. So that's what's sweat is, is the body taking all the disgusting water and putting it out the body. Exactly. Thank you. Everyone knows.

Everyone knows that. Yeah. But that is one of the water sommeliers. So, you know, their claim is that, like, you need water minerality. It's probably true that pure distilled water may not be as good for the human body as water with minerals in it. Tap water. Tap water, yes. We're going to get to the superiority of tap water, by the way.

Oh, hell yes. So tap of tap water, by the fda which the fda is beholden to a lot of a lot of lobbies and very underfunded and does not so you're more likely to be poisoned by bottled water than you are by tap water wow like even to the degree that like the very baseline, like what you are allowed to have in water. Tap water has higher standards than bottled water. Just like. Are you listening? I am loving this. Are you listening the Sonnenbergs? Yeah.

I was trying to protect you. Yeah. Also, a lot of the minerals they talk about in this article are things that, quote, could be good for you when they're like potassium, zinc, iron, magnesium. These minerals could provide important health benefits like lowering blood pressure, improving blood circulation, strengthening bones. But I do feel like water in a lot of ways is operating at the level of like placebo effect like where you're just like really not not that like you don't need water it's just placebo but like the idea that like one water is better than the other has a lot to do with what you are bringing to the experience yeah it's like people i know used to like only buy fiji. You guys remember Fiji bottled water?

I think Fiji is the worst, consistently worst water I've ever tasted. Well, to me... Dasani? Worse than Dasani? I have Dasani I fucking like, actually. So I'm wrong. You like Dasani? I gotta go. I gotta go.

This is what I'm saying. Eggnog boy. Eggnog and Dasani. Hook it up. You got a weird tongue, bro. Dasani was the first like cold bottled water I ever tasted. And it was like, well, I tasted it at a time when bottled water was like a novelty. Right.

And so, you know. So Dasani is nostalgic for you? Yeah. Well, it's just like it got implanted in there in some way that i can't help because yeah no i don't think i'm right i'm not like dasani is actually good and everybody else is wrong and i'm right i think i it just got like locked into like my brain in some way that like dasani i'm associating dasani with like cold, good water. Yeah. Well, people used to do that with Fiji water, too. I mean, I swear people acted like it was like the good water.

And it was like, I think you just think that because the label is got a waterfall. Pretty. Yeah. And you're like, oh, they're just like suckers for like a good marketing campaign. Yeah. Like a liquid death. Number one. Yeah. You know, that company just like got listed for trillions of dollars

so much money and all they're selling is canned water which by the way canned water maybe it's good for the environment I don't know always terrible always I feel like I'm always drinking pennies it's never been good not once oh have you tried drinking pennies they're good

put a little penny in your water i'll drink liquid pennies before i drink all my opinions are terrible all my opinions about drinks it's got a smack of pennies in there delicious yeah yeah i mean that what that's what you know i i've started noticing about tap water once i had like whatever sparklets or distilled or special rich guy water is that i'll be like oh yeah i guess los angeles like public tap water does smack of a little bit of rust but it's not like it's not bad it's just kind of i don't know it gives it a little kick that's what i like to think i gotta say to say, I think like drinking, growing up drinking tap water might make you like more of a superior human. Like, you know, I have a really small dog and he's very close to the ground.

I just call him like a garbage dumpster. Like he'll just eat anything. So he never gets sick. His stomach is just like rock hard. I grew up in the middle of nowhere and we drank out of a well. And every so often you'd have to put like a little like bleach or something like that in there to kind of clean out the well. But we were still drinking it. So I just grew up drinking a little bit of bleach every now and again.

Now I'm rock solid building saunas and hot tubs. You know what I'm saying? Tap water doesn't hurt. Yeah. When we started this call, actually, you were walking across your room with two big piece of lumber on either shoulder like arnold when we meet him in commando yeah and a beer helmet that was just connected to bleach which i was like straight bleach yeah i mean the best tap water i ever had like i don't know if does new york city still claim that it has like the best tap water in the world? It really...

I bought into that in the early 2000s. I was like, this is... New Yorkers and their fucking water. Always talking. It's the water. That's the difference. That's why the bread tastes better. Shut up.

Shut up. You don't know what you're talking about. It's the water. Literally, they've opened up Brooklyn Waterel like stores in la where they just talk about we we ship the water across america and we get the good water i'm like this is this is all fake this is fake there is some like cool poetry to like the minerality of water like basically yeah the water picks up so the reason that water that is absolutely devoid of minerals actually tastes bad to people and like you do see that over and

over it like comes near the bottom and taste tests even though you would think like well it's pure so it would taste like nothing at least but when you put water without anything in it next to like in your mouth it actually leeches the minerals out of your mouth and then that's what you're tasting is it like and so water just on its own like really in absorbs a lot of like minerals and stuff and so right you're like water just naturally is full of like minerals because it's, you know, it's traveling through vast underground like lakes and reservoirs that are, you know, all rushing under our feet. Like there's like a cool poetry to it. tastes like where you live and what minerals you are getting in your body is determined by like what the underground oceans of fresh water that

are under your feet are like around which is I think that's like cool yeah there's something like natural and beautiful about that you know or it sounds good but I agree you know with Rachel that you would it'd be nice to put a little bit of, a little sugar flavor in it.

Yeah. Or bleach. Like minerals are good, but is sugar not a mineral? That's a real question. Is sugar not a mineral? Yeah. Oh. What is a mineral?

A rock? Yeah. It's rocks. Yeah. It's just like it's determined by the rocks. So we're drinking little rocks. That's a yeah it's like the the rock flavor they so the sommelier i thought this was the best their best contribution in the article they said water can also feel dry silky creamy or even sparkly when you're drinking it which i agree with like that's a good description

of like some of the things that I've tasted in water before. Morning water, you know, leftover from your nightstand always feels dry. Yeah. Might be because it's high in calcium, they say. That's the one that leaves a dry mouthfeel. Oh. Yeah. Water that's low in minerality also leaves a dry mouth feel and can also end an almost metallic taste because

it soaks up the minerals in your mouth. Binder explained. That's so strange. Yeah. Kind of grossed out by water. Yeah. I went looking in Vice, or I went looking elsewhere because Vice are cowards and they wouldn't name names of what the best

bottled water is. I'm curious. It does seem like when you look at all the different taste tests like at least in the top half you find tap water just like tap water is as good as bottled water it was right the whole time as bottled water and like there's just huge variability on almost everything else. This honestly, I just feel vindicated and it makes me feel better about the years I spent drinking just straight hose water because I always thought water out the hose was the best water because it was the most like flavorful.

Cause there's something going on with that. The nozzle of the hose. I think hose water is not supposed to be drank is that right or i think it's just ultimate tap water it's like top tier tap yeah but probably like the first little like few gushes of water that are coming out of there was have just been like sitting in the sun that's the most flavorful right just the first few gushes of water. Taking in all the minerals from the hose. Yeah, you get all those nice amoebas and then they meet all your other amoebas

in your body and they become friends. Why you shouldn't drink water from a garden hose. Written by one of the Sonnenbergs. Yeah, Dasani. Big Dasani. By Nestle. Owned by the Sonnenbergs, yeah. In reality, most outdoor faucets and garden hoses, those made prior to 2014, are not meant to be used for drinking water.

Oh, whatever, dude. I'd turn out fine for the most part, I think. Yeah. Do you guys have a favorite bottled water flavor or bottled water? I guess we've covered that yours, Matt, is tap water. Well, yeah well yeah yeah if but that bottled water my favorite would probably be like you know arrowhead i feel like that is to me this was like the like classic it's just like it's cheap got a little nozzle i like that i feel like mine's a little like frou-frou but evian i feel like tastes the

most like there's no taste to it it's just water yeah even smart water sometimes can have a taste to it and dasani for sure just tastes like yeah there's dasani a nice cold evian also i feel like i'm a woman in vogue when i'm drinking it i feel like i'm flying first class if i'm getting a bottle of avion at the airport everyone thinks i'm flying first class is avion not also a skin cream am i crazy i don't think so but you're i see let's go where they should hannibal lecter mentioned avion skin cream in the movie silence of the lambs but i could be wrong about that it just sounds like it. It's a very French name.

It does. It just sounds hydrating. I know there was like a mister that they sold for a while that like you can mist your face with Evian water. Oh, I love that. Oh my God. I need to find that. Just the height of class. I'm looking up Evian Skin Cream.

I would hire people from Craigslist to come over and just mist my face with Evian while I worked. from craigslist to come over and just missed my face with evian while i worked i think evian evian did do well in like the public taste tests like i guess mother jones did one uh there was like a college that did a big bottled water taste test and evian kind of fared well both times dasani was like ranked near the top for one and then like near the bottom for the other so I feel like it's it's very subjective I guess I feel like Dasani is like cornered the market on like movie theaters like it's the only yeah water that you can find there I will have an extra large bag of the saltiest popcorn I've ever had in my life. And I'm still not touching Dasani. I will die.

I will die in my seat. I could be. Yeah, I would. I would never have water with popcorn because it's just like that. You're basically creating an ocean water in your mouth because it's like salt and water. I'm just saying sometimes you get like the chocolate, you get the candies, you get candies you get the popcorn you're like okay at least i can be good by getting some water yeah i'm not gonna go full gremlin and get you know vanilla coke but if it's dasani i won't do it i'll go full gremlin yeah i'm pro tap water but i was just like thinking about like where i

would get the tap water and i guess it guess there's something and it's probably incorrect, but like going to a bathroom and getting water from the tap at a public place like kind of grosses me out. So I probably wouldn't do that. That's true. go to like the subway bathroom and just you know be like i'm gonna fill up my water bottle but you know at home like if you were to fill up your water bottle at home you would probably fill it up in the the tap from the kitchen sink but there's no difference between that and going to your tub and just putting it in uh you know from know, from there. Is that weird? I don't know. I'm never doing that. I'm doing that all the time. I'm going to do that right now.

I've got to be desperado. If I'm going and filling up my water bottle from the bathroom, that means I am so hung over. I can't even make it to the kitchen. That happens. Yeah. I'm just saying, you know, like it's all,

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is we the people which is defined by just some vague bullshit about unity which only exists as a flimsy pretext to put a bunch of christmas trees and lights uh which yeah just should just be the theme of people like christmas decorations and we do too yeah like dr jill look you don't gotta you know you don't owe anybody an explanation be like i'm putting decorations up motherfuckers what are you talking about a theme it's december how about that yeah wow i don't know i feel like there's a lot of disrespect happening for both the constitution and Christmas right now. I got it. I loved it.

I, every photo I liked. Yeah. It just looks very classic Christmas shit. Classic. Yeah. It looks like Christmas shit. It looks like the kinds of houses.

Like I wish like my like immigrant mom and black father would make our house look like when I was a kid. I'm like, why don't we have all this cheesy shit up there? Like, man, we don't fucking with all that like when I was a kid. I'm like, why don't we have all this cheesy shit up? They're like, man, we don't fucking with all that. So when I see this, I'm like, oh, wow, to be white during Christmas. Yes, I have a stepmom who is white and my mom is Chinese. And my family in like my main home, we kind of did like wooden like nutcracker things and sort of like a little more sort of like the wooden train underneath and nothing to like. Wow.

That's nice, though. I like that a lot. Yeah, it was a lot of like Swedish stuff. It was like a lot of again, a lot of classical music. my white stepmom's home it was like the stockings were like faux fur and everything was sort of bigger and like bigger bulbs on the trees and much more like you know like uh all the like um jingle bell jingle bell jingle bell rock you know like that was it was a different kind of christmas it was a whiter in my opinion a whiter christmas yeah yeah and i thought that was fun to experience both. Yeah. And there is nothing unwhite about the Biden family. They are extra, extra white.

It's funny that. So part of me is like, yeah, but I remember when Melania put up her Christmas decorations and we were all hating on them. So, like, is this just the equivalent of them? Like, those are objectively screwed up looking like they were like the wild looking forest yeah it was so well it was just like good it was the it didn't it didn't bother me because i don't give a fuck but it did feel it felt like the sort of like it just really exposed hypocrisy of those people because it is the exact thing that would cause them to set their own hair on fire. Like the somebody doing like a modernist, like frigid take on Christmas cheer is like the exact thing that they would be so fucking pissed about.

That's a good point. Yeah. But because it was melania they couldn't say shit the blood trees yeah blood trees what yeah it looked like some like mythical forest creature was having like had sickly bowel movements like they're like those didn't look like trees they look like piles of weird shit that were red bjork like bjork inspired but not by bjork because b Bjork inspired. But not by Bjork because Bjorks would be way cooler.

Yeah. But anyways, people... This is actually an age-old tradition of people looking for hidden shit or conspiracies in the Christmas decorations. I think a lot of Q people thought that there were QAnon messages in Melania's Christmas decorations.

Even though as we heard from leaked audio months later, her Christmas decorations were just like, who fucking cares? I don't give a fuck about Christmas. I work my ass off and now I have to do the Christmas decorations and I don't give a fuck. Yeah, it really felt like that. Christmas decorations and I don't give a fuck. Yeah. It really felt like that.

So Biden's White House had been kind of free of those types of controversies. But now we got the controversy over Hunter Biden's love child, which feels valid to me. This does feel like the sort of thing that people would call out at Trump's White House if he had a bunch of stockings up for everyone in the family, except for an unacknowledged love child of Don Jr. or something. I feel like people would call it out. And that does seem to be the case here, right? Hunter Biden is a dirtbag who tried to wiggle out of paying child support for a kid that dna testing proved was his back in 2020 not saying they should have a stocking but it at least gives you a good chance to point that out if you're trying to call them the same on either side sure like yeah i think that's what's going to be interesting is for all of the like outrage about like the trump family

like i don't know like you you already tried to like shrug off the fact that like jared and ivanka were just took off with hundreds of millions of dollars from their time there and like this is kind of like and this guy's got problems and i can't realize like what that's gonna end up sounding like but you know go do as you will republicans with your majority there's also the secret satanic messages that are in the deck get to those the satanic icons yeah that's right there's a satanic goat head hidden among the trees and wreaths according to some people could you ask flotus why there is satanic stuff in her Christmas decorations.

Said Teresa Longwell. What it is, is it appears to be a deer head with deer antlers and a golden mirror that is in the state dining room. And which was first donated to the White House in 1946. Oh. nothing you just wheel in for christmas right hey switch that eagle out for this satan head yeah okay i'm sure there's all sorts of weird shit like that hidden all over the white house though oh my god you know illuminati shit but shit. But that would be fun to just go on a little satanic trip around the White House. I mean, that is, yeah, I feel like in five years,

when whatever, not five, maybe 10, but when Stephen Miller is president, or, you know, there will be QAnon-led tours of the deep state and the White House is one of those stops. Right.

What's even spookier about that place is it was built with slave labor. Ooh. I won't mention that much. Yeah. Shh, shh, shh, shh. No, no, no, no. We don't mention that. We don't mention that.

Just a quick tour through some of the past controversy. So back in 2009, there was a freakout about how Obama hit a Mao Zedong ornament on his tree. How did he hit? It was hidden. I mean, sure. Okay. It was on the tree that he let everybody take pictures of.

Uh, but you could tell like he had this look, this like nervous look on his face that was like, he's trying to hide it because obviously a, he's the secret communist and b he liked to leave clues to the fact that he was a secret communist all over the place what in a place that was going to be photographed millions of times and also like that portrait of matt that's the andy warhol mouth like yes turns out y'all you fuck with art yeah people just people just looked it

up and it is a pittsburgh ball pittsburgh like christmas decoration because warhol was from pittsburgh and it was a celebration of andy warhol i see but you know look i mean this is definitely one of those it was hidden because it was on the back side of the tree it's not the prettiest ornament and you got to put something on the the backside where there's going to be less photographs. And that's what it is. You put all the janky ones or in my case all of them are janky because they were just bought from Target in one fell swoop.

Oh, really? I always collect ornaments. Oh, wow. Oh my god, that's amazing. We actually have a Christmas tradition here in this household. Francesca. I'm just kidding. I'm just hating on you. I haven't.

I haven't. I'm like crying. I'm like, why does she have to stay there? I haven't lived enough adulthood to do that. I feel like. Or like I have, but not, you know. Okay, to be fair, I always forget. And then my wife, Her Majesty, is like, we got to get another thing.

I'm like, that's right. Yeah, let's get. And I'm always like advocating for like the easiest thing. And she would like something very ornate. And I'm like, nah, but see, this wine cork can be put in a paper clip and then become the ornament from this dress. That's it. But that's how you got to think. You know, you could take one was I took like a hotel like key card.

And I was just like, fuck it. There's an ornament. Oh, well, that's a bridge too far. Hey, look. And that goes on the back of the tree actually very little money being spent at target sounds communist i could decorate an entire tree with all the hotel key cards i have like oh my god accidentally keep all yours just kept no of course not but i'm like oh look at this i have a weird thing with like i never return them but then i i come back home with i'm like oh look at this i have a weird thing with like i never return them

but then i i come back home with i'm like why the fuck do i why did i keep this exactly i don't you don't mean to take them oh i do i i run out of the hotel laughing maniacally you'll never fucking catch me like i got this i didn't put it in the box got him I put a different I put a credit card in the box to fool them. Fucking idiots. I lost a shitload of money on that. Also, back in the 90s, just to give people a reminder, if you haven't already had enough of a reminder what it was like to be alive in the 90s from our Kevin Spacey crush stories. Back in the 90s, a former FBI agent claimed that Hillary Clinton decorated one White House tree with drug paraphernalia, condoms, and cock rings.

Yeah. Eh? There was a conspiracy theory, very unbelievable conspiracy theory, that Hillary Clinton was cool in the 90s. And I think we all know now that that was not true. It's the same thing with Hunter Biden. I mean, yeah, maybe he was a POS to his B-A-B-Y. But they make him out to be hella cool.

Like all of the Daily Wire's movie about him. Yeah. Like whoever super cut all his videos of him, just like shirtless with, you know, a couple of women in bed, smoking crack in a sensory deprivation tank, like next level party. Come on,

y'all. That would have been, that would, that guy would have got Maxim baller of the year in 1998. You know what I mean? Oh, now. Also, the trailers for that Hunter Biden Daily Wire movie, it's the most competent I've seen Joe Biden look. He seems like he's capable of running a country in those trailers.

Yeah, exactly. Rather than making up black people he was friends with back in the day right anyways keep it keep an eye out by the way the all all of these things these conspiracies are debunked because you can look at photographs of them so like people were able to look at the photograph of the Mao Zedong ornament and be like, oh, this is a Pittsburgh ornament that you can buy lots of places. Here are the five Christmas trees that were up in the White House. None of them have cock rings on them.

Ah, boo. Damn it. Yeah. But. There are cock rings, though, at the the foot at the foot of every stocking yes yeah or a little a little anal bead just like drug paraphernalia condoms and cock rings is such a like who would just what an imagination of like and what is that like i love when fucking cops are like paraphernalia like get right get, bro. We're talking stems. We're talking fucking

hypodermic needles. Those tiny little novelty bongs. Yeah, like little neon green acrylic bong earrings. Yeah, but it's like the little gnomes that are made out of clay, but then also on a pipe,

you know? Yeah. With little googly eyes. Exactly. The cutest paraphernalia. Yeah. Yeah. Huh. Well, we'll get to Water Somalia's tomorrow,

but I think all our listeners are going to be fine with the fact that we instead diverged into stories of the Spacey crush. Yeah. So far, yes. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show.

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