The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 257 (Best of 1/9/23-1/13/23)

Episode Date: January 15, 2023

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Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? It's right here in black and white and prints. It's bigger than a flag or mascot. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist.

These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the classics, an early guest, one of our favorites, one of your favorites. It's been way too long since he's been on. He's a hilarious actor,

improviser, who writes on TV shows like Grand Crew, video games, TV shows about video games. Please welcome Thought Dead, trademark. It's Ify Waterway! Yes! Yes! A.K.A. Ify Shuku. Every time

I check my bank account, Ify Shuku. You wouldn't even believe my bank amount if he should go i can't count up the whole goddamn amount if he should go i made it and sometimes i forget that i'm famous just like i'm amos turn around it's the worst uh little uzi verse of 2022 he ruined a baby keem song. But beside that bar, it's actually the worst bar. The verse itself, okay. That bar,

he made a famous Amos reference in the year of our Lord 2022. But yes, I'm here. The dad in me appreciates that. The dad in me sees the dad in you. Yeah, you're like, oh, it's time to pack my kid's lunch. You're right.

You're like, I'm late for school. You're like, hold on. Let me put on I Just Want to Rock by Lil Uzi Vert. You ready for this one? Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. That song goes. It has no reason being as good as it is, but it is. I have a question for you dads out here is it do how often are you

like it when when you're trying to like rock a baby you know what i mean are you do you ever just rap a verse like because i feel like people have baby appropriate songs but i have so many rap verses memorized that i feel like if i could summon it i could be like you know i could just lean into it you know like oh my baby i rock a fly baby in the summertime for sure oh yeah okay yeah and i and you look they're they're so young they're not even going to remember all the words you're using so you can just go full explicit on that rock on the first few years right pretend i know the whole rap god verse by eminem and they were like you know i was spitting that shit perfect when you were a baby yeah you just don't remember because you were a child yeah it's it's definitely like more of my brain is dr seuss shit now like i

just realized access like we were waiting in line somewhere and we started doing i don't know like some silly you know shit and i realized i know all of dr seuss's abcs like by heart oh you can just like spit that back which is not like that hard you already know what order it comes in because of the because it's the abcs but yeah there's a lot of rhymes that uh start taking up space that used to be occupied by ghostface versus i think yeah for sure italian ital Italian music down the river with your chick clinging. That's gone now to my bit all player you mad for. That's right. Ify, how are you doing, man?

It's been way too long. Yeah, I know it's been way too long. It's, you know, I've been trying to squeeze in here between gigs, but like it really was a quick runner last year because i was doing twisted metal at the top of the year and then right after twisted metal i was back in grand crew but now um you know i'm chilling um you know you know you're developing some stuff you know inside baseball but you know now i have free time i've been dying to come on the pod and it's now is the perfect time because i think if i would have went in when i was like right after the room when i was just like you know like neck deep in writing a tv

show and not coming up for air but now you know i'm back on my gym routine and part of my gym routine which you know this if you don't know this already uh you know uh zeitgang if you are on uh spotify you can do the daily drive. That's, that's my shit. And what they do when you do the daily drive is they mix in the NPR kind of like daily up first, and then it goes into your,

your music playlist. And then they'll pick like a, you know, a podcast. That's your vibe. I think they figured out that I'm a leftist. So then it goes to marketplace, then it'll place more playlists.

And then if you come back in the day, you'll get the updates with NPR's kind of up next updates, which is great. So why are you trying to, hold on, man. I just told you I was having a kid and you're trying to take money out his mouth. Okay. Because, you know, we have a morning show too and then we will update you later in the day. I also

give music recommendations, but yes, shout out that other app. Oh yeah, yeah. That other, I know. I totally came you later in the day. I also give music recommendations, but yes, shout out that other app. Oh yeah, yeah, that other, I know, I totally came up with it. But you know,

definitely, because when I was in my Deep Pod one, I was, I was double dipping, you know, listening to y'all, listening to this. And,

but also I do think Spotify does need to get the TDZ because y'all would fit the vibe more because it is funny having to go from NPR's tone to like Baby Keem and I'm like this would never be on KPCC or wherever you're listening. They are never going to be like, okay, the needle

drop after Ira Glass hop off is going to be the... They're trying to do it sometimes and it's embarrassing every time they do. It is jarring. Whereas, like, if the needle drop came off of us, you'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. I mean, we go out on some bangers. So, yeah, if you work in Spotify, definitely let them know to get TDZ in that daily drive.

Yeah, let them know. That's my new campaign. Come on, y'all. To make up for what I just did, I'm definitely going to see what I can do to pull some strings. Man. Also grand crew was dope. I got to tell you. Oh,

thank you. So good. Yeah. I can confidently say this next season is going to be funnier, you know? And I think, you know, if you,

if you're like, I feel like when you're in the city and you're tapped in, everyone kind of knows that first season is kind of more establishing everyone's relationships. Yeah. No. And second season, we were able to just go like, what of more establishing everyone's relationships. Yeah. No. And second season, we were able to just go like, what's the funniest shit we can. Yeah.

I feel like you guys were able to get to that pretty quickly, though. Like, oh, yeah. After like the first few, if the show really fucking caught its stride. And I still love that pipe Jerry or Jerry pipe joke. I don't know who wrote that one. Oh, yeah. I forget who did that. But what I do remember is I was trying so hard to be pipe oh yeah that was like i forget who did that but i what i do remember is i

was trying so hard to be pipe jerry i was like and then when they when we saw pipe jerry i was like no y'all got the right one because your boy is buff but that guy was shredded wait tell the pipe jerry joke what what is it oh Oh, so Nikki in her phone has Pipe Jerry and Jerry Pipe. One is a handyman. One is a stripper. And she calls the stripper up when she wanted the handyman. But he comes in as a handyman. So they think it's him.

And he just starts getting it. I just love the fucking difference of Jerry Pipe and Pipe Jerry. It was so different. The fine balance. Yeah. It was so different. The five balance. Yeah. Yes. What is something from your search history? Recently, I was searching sandwiches near me.

I love that. Which I thought was like kind of funny, but pathetic. No. Little thing to search. It's near me. You know, it's like, what's just near around me and arm's length. Yeah. Reaching distance.

Yeah. You kind of. Yeah. That's like you're like you're basically just typing into your phone. I'm hungry. Sandwiches within earshot. Yeah. I can yell sandwiches and I wanted a sandwich.

I would you know, I did a couple day trip type things that we've had some family visiting over the holidays and that some of those days really feel like okay now you got to have a sandwich after like a day trip and so i needed one in the vicinity and where'd you end up well we just ate at we were at the botanical garden huntington botanical oh yeah oh yeah beautiful botanical garden and we just ate at the cafe there because it was too hard to get to another sandwich. But I, I was thinking of some and I didn't get them, but I'll eventually get there. You ever, it's funny when you say sandwich near me, because, you know, like Google always auto fill stuff for you to be like, I need a physical therapy, like orthopedic, blah, blah, near me. Near me?

Or do you want it really far away? Part of me, I like, i'm like some weird like early search snob where i'm like that's not how you're gonna fucking figure out where it is you know you don't need to have it in there specific but obviously it's optimized to use your location just figure that on your own but i it's for whatever reason whenever i see you near me i'll never do that i'll fully type in the city i'm like well i was desperate for a sandwich that's why i allowed the autocomplete i was like you're right yeah i need it close it needs to be here now food there not that great not that great no it was japanese garden it was immaculate who doesn't love a japanese garden

actually it was like i'm semi-joking but it is the most packed place and you are like this rules this is tranquil as hell yeah Yeah. It's wild how diverse all of the flora and fauna and stuff. We're like, okay, now we're in Asia. Now you're down under in the succulent desert area. Are you a dad already or this is first baby?

You're talking dad talk. I'm a dad. And let me tell you, I love me some flora. Don't get me started on fauna. Oh, my God. It gets nuts. But dads love different types of things growing. I have my father-in-law here, and he has pointed out many a tree.

And I'm interested. Hey, kid, let's go to the church and the choir, man. We'll go on a boat, cruise around the bay, check out the flotsam and jetsam, you know. We do it all. That would be really nice. Yeah, so that's what I'm into now. Not so much jetsam, actually. I had a bad experience with jetsam. Just flotsam

game is on. You flotsam or jetsam? Flots. There you go. Flots all the way, dude. Now, Miles is definitely built for this shit. I have Sam or Jet Sam? Flots. There you go. Flots all the way, dude. Now, Miles is definitely built for this shit. He's... That's great. I have unending

useless knowledge to bore my child with. Yeah. And then... That's what they need. Exactly. And then they'll regurgitate that at school

and they'll be like, what are you... What's going on at home? Yes. My son already does that. My son talks about Costco a lot. Right. Oh, no.

Yeah. I'm like, oh, no, but oh, yes. Yeah. My kid will talk about like Taco Bell, like how to get a Mexi melt, the carceral state. And Ronald Reagan is why we have unhoused people. Where's the cheesy gordita crunch? Last time I went there, they didn't have the cheesy gordita crunch meal anymore. Wow.

They may have you a la carte that thing, man. I don't know. Your listeners are just eating this up. They're like, wow. No, our listeners are holding it down. No, because they knew my love of the Mexi Melt, and somebody who used to work at a Taco Bell is like, this is how you can order it still.

This is how you just tell them how to assemble it. And I was like, thank you so much to your listeners. Thank you, sir. Coming through. Here's the cheat code. Because as I think about it, too, you're maybe shortening my life as i become a parent if i keep up with the taco bell hacks so you know but that's okay too because

you're going to want to get out at some point so it's like if i'm going down taco bell and die like a man yeah with taco bell that's on man thinkers actually mexican pizza clutch to my i love you son i see you heart attack your way out of there. What is something you think is overrated? Staying up late. Yes. Spoken like a true father. Yeah, this has become such a dad cast.

I know. Check out the botanical gardens. You said it and I gave an involuntary yes. And I will say also even more sadly that I've always kind of felt that way. Even in my high school days, I was sort of known for like kind of cutting it off at around midnight was like my cutoff in high school. Yeah. Wow.

I was like, there's nothing's going to happen anymore. It's over. Wait, what do you mean? Nothing's going to happen. That's what my DARE officer said. Nothing good happens after midnight. So that's kind of how I feel that for different reasons. Right.

I would say my, my counterpoint to the dare officer, I'd be like, no, do your drugs earlier. Right. And then you could still get a good night's sleep. Yeah.

Don't, yeah. Don't be, don't run with the sun. Exactly. You don't want to be running with the sun. No, you don't want to wake up refreshed.

And you're like, I had a great insane night last night on tons of drugs. I got in at 1145. Exactly. I got home safe. 1145. Exactly. 7 a.m. to 1145. What is, Allison, something you think is overrated? Well, this goes right kind of into what you guys were just saying. I feel that everyone else in their goddamn opinions are overrated. First of all, I personally overrate them. But being someone who has a podcast, occasionally I hear, frequently I hear people's opinions about everything about me and my show.

And, oh, the way you pronounce that word bothers me. The way you say this bothers me. And because I do overrate it, then I have to be like, fine, I guess I'll just change the way I do everything to appease you. So I just feel like in general, people with all their opinions, if they happen to have to do with me and are negative and make me feel bad. No, thank you. Just, you know, they always say, you know, living on the words of others is a double edged sword, you know, because the compliments like power you up. But if if you really lean on that, the criticism will fucking just cut you in half too. And I think it's about for me personally,

like throughout my life, I've tried to get away from that because I'm such a people pleaser that I really do care a lot about what people think. And it's more about centering yourself in everything you do. And realizing that the most true living experience you can have is to honor what who you are sincerely and really understand that outside commentary can allow those words to like penetrate into your soul because then you're completely doing yourself a disservice and not treating yourself with the sanctity that you deserve so that is beautiful and i agree and i actually that's sort of, I, I go back and forth a lot. Like that's something that for the most, like I, I have that realization, maybe not as

eloquently as you put it, but I have that realization frequently. And then all of a sudden I will find that like, oh, this, these comments bothered me. It's weird. I thought I was a little more armored. Um, all that being said, allow me to say i'm being somewhat facetious like yeah for the most part i love that people listen and have an opinion and of course i want to hear feedback and all of that stuff i'm just saying occasionally i'm like not today people occasionally they should consider shutting the fuck up just everyone yeah but at the end of the day you know it's like you have no responsibility to be like oh i heard that it's like yeah say whatever the fuck you want i'm not the same you know fuck out of here i'm just i'm look live your shit from the inside and let that resonate outside

don't let the shit don't don't do that shit in reverse don't let the outside shit affect your internal state you know what i mean like that's so good. Recently, I let your internal truth resonate out. Oh, I think it was. I think it was Harry, noted Ginger, was saying that the royal family's policy is like never complain, never explain. And I was thinking that's the opposite of my policy. I'm constantly, I'm the most over explaining person in the whole world. And I'll complain too. Yeah. Yeah. That's healthier. Yeah. Cause the other side of it, you end up writing a book where you just like air out every weird thing that's happened to you in your life and be like, okay. Yeah. All right. I do want to

read it though. Yeah. I know Anna right now. She, we've been getting updates from Super. She's got the audio in real time. She's like, Prince Charles wears Dior sausage. And we're like, Dior sausage? And it was a typo because she went to say Dior Sauvage. And when I responded to her and said, I was over here searching Dior sausage, but Dior Sauvage is so perfect. But as I was trying to type Sauvage, it auto-corrected to sausage. Like, I couldn't get it to... It was like, no, you definitely mean Dior sausage, my friend. That's amazing.

Yeah. Dior sausage. What were you envisioning? Like, some kind of high-end sausage that he put on his body? He has sausage fingers. I don't know. So I was like, I thought this was something... Yeah, but I wasn't

envisioning sausage that he put on his body. I'm sorry. When I read that text, it fucked me up so bad because how do I not know what a Dior sausage is? You got into a car crash. I listen to so much rap and luxury brands are named. You kind of buy osmosis

or kind of up on shit i'm like the dior sausage like is that a food or is that like a piece of jewelry that he keeps on him like he got that dior sausage on him i have no idea but what is dior savage is that a line of something that is the super offensive johnny depp cologne it's dior's cologne that they have where like johnny depp is in the ads playing electric guitar around like indigenous peoples like oh god in the desert and no no just very very running with a wolf or some shit yeah running with a wolf so many scarves like he's just being swallowed by scarves and he's just out there in the desert with the moon and wolves and indigenous people and heavy-handed nonsense it's it's like a thing that they they doubled

down on him being the spokesperson for the product as he was on trial oh wow yeah anyway shout out the sausage though yeah but the sausage has a great snack what is something you think is underrated Teresa I'm gonna go real basic organizing bins uh I moved in my boyfriend recently and into like where he already lives oh thank you but I've been like it's great but you know this is probably something guys who have been through this will relate to, I think, because I think that it's more common than I realized. I move things around constantly because we didn't move in together. So I'm like shuffling things around.

I started getting bins to put things that are out like, oh, floss, pens. Now everything's in bins, but it's still like around because I'm not trying to. So now, like his friends will come over and be like, ah, I see there's more bins around. Like, just like all the loose items that were out and about are now in bins. But I love it. And I think that it doesn't distract from his flow.

So like, what do you mean by, do you mind showing me like, so give me an example of something that yeah and then there's a well i wish i can't grab it now but these bright room clear ones if you target sells them they're great you can stack them like by our so you're just organ it's not like you're filling up like rubber made storage containers yeah man they're everywhere they're in the bathroom they're the kitchen it's like that what is that ludicrous song like uh in the car in the bathroom oh oh yeah

in the backseat at the movies you can push me and just pull me yeah i know that one yeah yeah yeah yeah give it to me i can't i can I can't recommend anymore these clear bins because they stack. You could put like coffee pods, tea, chocolate, everything. Yeah. No, that's true. They're nice. I've never. It's funny.

So you've probably seen this. I feel like Asian people use like Tupperware too as a container storage things. No, it's not at all. Yo, I remember my mom, she was like, I'd be like sixth grade. She's like, your room's a mess. She's like, I organized it. But just put all my pens in a fucking Tupperware and other shit like that.

And a yogurt container. Or old cookie bins. That's the thing. You go to an auntie's house and there's those Danish cookies bins. Oh, the blue one? The blue metal one? That's for sewing.

That's for sewing. You open it, it's just like sewing. Yeah, it's sewing. That's for sewing. That's our sewing kit. That's our sewing that's for sewing it's just like sewing yeah that's for sewing that's our sewing kit that's our sewing kit but yeah i think it's just it is funny because i think of that too i have it's just not in my brain to think of buying organizational bins or holders or things like that so i think as just how i'm kind of a like a messy person people who have been to the iheart office back when it was running my desk looked like some

kind of fucking hoarders like nightmare but i'm i'm learning your office for you i literally love it like it's like i think a new addiction because if it's fun to organize percentage when you're organizing? What percentage of the stuff are you throwing away? Am I high? Oh, wait, I'm throwing away. Yeah, it's my high. How high are you?

And what percentage of the stuff are you throwing away? Well, so like, I'm trying not to throw away too much because that's the part I think will become annoying. Like literally, I'm like, my boyfriend's like, it's fine, do whatever. So I just try to reorganize. But I already moved in, so a lot of my stuff is gone. So it really is just rearranging.

And I think that part, I love it. Because sometimes until you move, you don't realize what the flow is going to be. So I've had to shuffle where the keys go, like maybe four times. And that is probably annoying. But my boyfriend is a saint, and he acts like he doesn't mind.

I hope he still loves me. I'm sure he does. You're lovable. Are you saying that they've also improved the container gate? Like it's no longer like the containers that you can get are better than they used to be? Yeah, I think so. I think they realized we were using Tupperware and repurposing like old boxes and shit. Like I used to put my magazine in an old amazon

box like cut in half and now it's like you know you don't have to spend a lot you can just couple bucks and get these like nice plastic bins that stack and or my mom she'll put fucking wrapping paper like nice wrapping paper on other boxes to turn them up yeah my mom had this closet of old boxes like literally i'm like we don't need. It's like stores that are out of business. She says, boxes for us. She's like, what do you mean we don't need this May Company box anymore? I feel like the one time we made a real run at getting organized, my wife and I are both very disorganized people.

Really? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I thought your wife was like the opposites attract thing. No, no, no. We are like identicals attract in that respect. Because Her Majesty looks at me and is disgusted sometimes. No, that's it. It's

truly like we were like, should we really get married? This is going to be a problem. We really love each other, but this is going to be a problem because we are identical, like identically ADD messy people. And we've made it work so far but we've like made multiple runs of getting organized and sometimes it like that the last time we did it

like via a container store approach the stuff just kind of looked like shit and ended up kind of all over the place we just had a messy house with containers in there yeah you gotta go not to him because i used to be like too ambitious and be like i'm gonna do the whole room and then you start doing it and then nothing matches but yeah the little thing you start small like you you organize the desk and then you you get like you know oh now i have confidence i could do the kitchen i could do the bathroom and then pretty, it's like the insides are good so you can then, the outsides follow. Right. Yeah.

Oh man, such is life. Yeah. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil,

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Got the double thumbs up, like beginning of Top Gun and Top Gun Maverick. That's how every movie starts, isn't it? Go, movie, start. And we're a go. We're characters now. All right, so conspiratorial thinking abounds. Miles, this is your story.

I'm going to let you take it from there. Well, I think, I mean, that's true no matter who says that sentence, I would say. But yes, it is all. that's true no matter who says that sentence i would say but yes it is all i mean look last week right when you know like the anti-vaxxers i think they believe they got a gift from like blonde haired jesus when like nfl player damar hamlin collapsed passed away like momentarily from a cardiac arrest and was a revived immediately the fucking tweets and posts talking about died suddenly just ramped up exponentially there's this group called the center for countering digital hate and they're a non-profit that looks at disinformation and things like that

they said that the phrase died suddenly uh had quadrupled that day like with a daily average is only fourth about 4 000 mentions000 mentions. This is doing about 17,000 where people are going on this whole died suddenly. And do you guys remember, we've talked about this phrase died suddenly before, because there was that shitty, I guess, documentary that they called it, but it was really just a montage clip of people collapsing due to any other reason aside from having like a covid vaccine and actually not dying and people are like oh man this is fucking scary man look at what the vaccine's doing to people people are just dying left and right well this like the fervor around that shit hasn't died

down and this guy specifically just recently came back up in the news you may have remembered us talking about him his name is christopher keys he He was the guy that was called the vaccine cop who wore like a fucking badge. And he tried to citizens arrest a fucking governor for like approving vaccines for kids. And he also remember his last, I mean, we really talked about him because of his last science breakthrough. Let me just, let me just remind you really quick what he's told a room full of people, what the antidote to the COVID vaccine was, you know, Take it with a grain of salt, but go do the research. Because this is going to just be like there's no way. But the antidote

and I'm going to kill my credibility but what credibility do I have anyway? So hey, the antidote that we've seen now and we have tons and tons of research is urine therapy. Urine therapy.

Okay. And I know a lot of you... And a lot of you are like, what the fuck is this dude? Yes, he's talking about drinking your pee-pee so you can negate the vaccine and be free. Well, now this guy's back at it again. And he's this...

So he was on a plane and he was asking the pilots if they were vaccinated because they could die suddenly due to their vaccination. So this is, we're just going to play this clip. This is, he was just like going up into the cockpit like, hey, how you fellas doing? Blah, blah, blah.

You guys aren't vaccinated, are you? Let's play this. This is him walking up to the cockpit. We just found out another pilot dropped dead. Yes. You guys aren't vaccinated are you i hope yes oh my god both of you are you serious speaking through the oh my gosh you're young enough okay so he's laughing off he's like yeah okay yeah sure thing more on that later i bet you guys

will be fine then guess what the the fucking flight landed because no one's dying suddenly as shit and then this is he goes up to the pilots i guess just to like double back on being like yo i know i was talking about shit like let me just check in on you guys one more time because i don't want to take that out thank you guys thank you give your card real quick yeah please guys the documentary we just put out called Died Suddenly by Steve Peters. You said you were young, brother? 27. But again, we've had over 1,000 athletes drop dead on the football field, 23 years of age.

Please go look at it. That's a lie. We have a team of over... You hear the pilot just goes, that's a lie, right back. Because it is a fucking lie. Yeah. He's just like, get the fuck out of my face, dude. That's thousands of people aren't going down. He's likely referencing this like website that just has a list of fucking athletes that have died.

Like for any reason, they'll be like 66 year old rugby legend died. Yeah. Okay. And just leaving it at that. And I think it's worth mentioning all this because Tucker Carlson has made the same claims on his show. And we're now looking at a like house of representatives where like the plandemic adrenochrome gang are going to be setting a lot of the agendas for what kind of legislation they even discuss or the, you know, the business, a lot of these, of a lot of these committees and McCarthy, he finally got his speakership, but he basically had to give away all his power

to these people just so he can have a bigger office and hold a wooden dildo. And we're going to pay the price because of this, because now we have people who are, if you hear even what he said in his first speech, he's talking about things like looking into the origins of the pandemic or like looking at like what's going on with the CDC. All of this language is meant to begin a ton of quote unquote investigations that are just going to challenge people's sense of like established truth or reality going into 2020.

This is who we are seeding ground to when people are like, he's made some concessions and seeded some ground. Like this is who he's ultimately seeding ground to is the guy who wants to make his pilots, let him watch them drink their own pee before takeoff to make sure that they're covered. It'll only be a matter of time until Dr. PP is going up to do like some kind of testimony in front of Congress or

whatever, about how like he's seen, he's seen, he's seen it all folks. But again, this is all, it's just very dangerous too, because when you look even how epidemiologists are talking, they're like, man, the way these, these diseases mutate and we have new variants, like we're looking at like a new pathogen, like every six years that we have to contend with, whether it's like SARS or MERS or COVID, like they keep coming. And so there's no, there's no world in which you got to be like, we don't need to look into any

of this shit anymore. Right? Like it's all bullshit. And there, I don't know how on earth the country can protect itself. Cause it did already did a terrible job when the shit started in 2020, when the GOP is basically going to tell americans like hey fuck science they don't know shit really yeah they've like built out the scaffolding already for the next pandemic and now everybody like prior to the pandemic like people i think like they there were there's been a huge drop off in like the number of people who actually are not skeptical of fucking vaccines just across the board. Like it's done. They've done quite a bit of damage and it's, it's very frustrating.

Like this is one of the most frustrating sort of cognitive biases to deal with, like the sampling bias or sampling error where it's just any news story can be used to make the Kate. Like it, it didn't make any sense to me like it hadn't crossed my mind that the nfl story would be used in this way to like try and bias people against vaccines but it's it's like the you know that year everyone was like god like 2018 is on a weird one

all these celebrities are dying and it's just like no there's just a lot of celebrities who are in their 60s and 70s and 80s at this point you know it's like that it's you're just seeing it's like i used to think people in russia were the wildest drivers and it turns out it's just that russian that like most Russian cars have a dash cam and so you just see all the footage of the wildest shit that's happening on roads everywhere around the world happen and like they actually share the footage as opposed to you know we don't we don't all have cameras constantly taking the footage in hey well now we're catching up because now more American people have them now and the clips are starting to have American license plates in them. Yes. And they're equally fucking out there

drivers here. I mean, shit in L.A. I think where I live in Glendale is like considered the worst driving in the country. Really? It is. I mean, the 134, the 134 lawless. It's lawless. And I grew up driving on that shit. I'm a good driver because I've had to transit the 134 the 134 lawless it's lawless and i and i grew up driving on that shit i'm a good driver because i've had to transit the 134 protect yourself oh yeah i mean that's had some of the most fucking fucked up accidents ever on it like the 134 yeah there was one where the guy like was ejected onto like a fucking freeway sign. Wow. Yeah. I think I remember that. Yeah. Yeah.

What a way to go. It's just a lot of wild. Anyway, but all that to say, yeah, our confirmation biases are out there, but it's just very scary to think of like how even in our, like when the,

when the pandemic started here in 2020, like the CDC and the government was like, it looks like a lot of stuff's happening in New York right now. Should we start testing for that? And they just did it. And then, you know, Q Curb theme song. People have to remember in general that state lines are just made up.

Right, right. Because a lot of times people will be, you know, I'm from the East Coast and I'll visit home and people will be like, wow, California, there's a lot of like fires and stuff out there, huh? And it's like, you live here too. Yes, I'm closer, but your planet is also on fire. It's not just like, oh, it's only California,

and once it hits that line, we don't have to worry about it. It's only slightly further away from you. I think, yeah, we have such a terrible compartmentalization problem in America, like whether it's class or race or like whatever. People like, well, that's that's for this other thing outside of my little box. I think I'm inside of it's like, no, motherfucker. To your point, it's like we're all on the same rock, you know, and the problem happening here can get to you. They will eventually.

Yeah, I flew here in like a few hours. Like it's happening. You might want to like, you know, take some cover or something. Right. Yeah. Well, a little bit further, but still, you know, part of a part of an ongoing trend that we've been tracking here that we're seeing happen in Brazil is the rise of fascism and like a very specific type of fascism that is like mega fascism i guess is but so bolsonaro lost his election and well that's what they say we don't know we don't know we don't know we don't know we got according to who according to who yeah but it's all part of it. It is like what you satirizing your show, what the P doctor, the only doctor I listened to. Of course.

And this Bolsonaro thing are all a part of this same trend of people feeling disaffected and lonely and feeling, you know, rejecting the kind of liberal mainstream status quo in many cases for like good reasons and in many cases for horrifying you know racist reasons but they are like it's a growing it's a growing movement that it feels like we're not doing the right things to prevent but what the latest kind of flare-up of this is that after he lost the election he he kind of pulled a Trump and, you know, disappeared to Florida, but continued to spread wild conspiratorial nonsense to the point that supporters storm Brazilian Congress over 2022 election loss is was the number one story over the weekend on TMZ. What TMZ? None of the rioters are dating Pete Davidson, but that was their number one story. So TMZ is on to it. I think we should be, too. But I don't know. He's been his protesters have been blocking roads, setting vehicles on fire, camping out outside military headquarters, urging the armed forces to intervene. And yeah, a lot of American media outlets are comparing this to January 6th, partly because we are incapable of seeing a global news story and

not making it about ourselves. Yeah, well, but also when Steve Bannon is a Bolsonaro advisor, you know, and he was ringing that bell from over here, like last year saying like, I don't know, looks like real contested. We'll see what happens. I mean, he was his whole thing was like, I'm hoping for another January 6 in Brazil. And it's weird, too, because like it it was everything about it was just kind of off. Like it was on a Sunday. So no officials were there so like they weren't necessarily like stopping the certification of an election or something they just like pulled up and

just like ransacked the place and that was like about then there's even like a q q shaman q anon shaman like fucking like like analogous dude but in bra in Brazilian colors who also showed up, there's like so much imitation happening to you. That's well, every country has the same has one of every type of person, right? Yeah, there's an Italian one. Yeah, they all have one. Yeah, but it's but it's funny, too, because like, they go into it thinking they're like, this is what the people want. Like, they're on this, like waverighteousness. Like even with the January six people, they're like, we're patriots or whatever. But the problem is like, I think because they think they're on such a like righteous course and then they like objectively lose an election. It's like, well, I'm not going to fucking say, oh, maybe I was, maybe I didn't represent the will of the people. Right. They're going to double down and be like, no, fuck it it put your face paint on and now we'll storm the capital like i don't know if you saw that one clip where the one guy's like yeah man we can take that building we can we can get in there and there's a guy behind him who's

like and then what like on january 6th and that's kind of the mentality it's like yeah you're angry you pulled up but because you're all there motivated by this like like all of these very disparate principles like everyone's there for their own fucking weird reason like yeah it's it's they don't quite turn into like this hyper potent thing but i will say this i mean obviously brazil has had a military dictatorship so they're not far off being like y'all get involved like like y'all did in the 60s to 80s, please. Yeah. And apparently the local police report to the governor, who is a former Bolsonaro ally. And this was similarly to January 6th. This is being planned openly on the Internet for at least two weeks.

I think even there was even more planning to the to the point that the buses were chartered that showed up for the storming of the Capitol. Like, this is like, you know, the Civil War reenactments. They're like, all right, this is what you do when you lose an election, and then you have a right-wing dictator on the ballot. I love that everyone for all this stuff has to use social media and text messages. You know, like, no one is like, hey, if we're going to be secretive, obviously we can't text. Yeah. And they all just text openly.

And then they get subpoenas. And it's like, look, it's all here. I have every text that they wrote to each other. Like, I just can't help it. You know, it's convenient. I like the blue bubbles. We all got to have iPhones when we're planning. The second they figure out they're sec oh it's trouble but until then uh yeah their egos will continue to assist those who are seeking to hold them accountable keep texting

yeah put it on put it on getter or whatever site yeah signal i think there's something that is like specifically social media driven about the like that specific impulse of, well, there must have there must have been cheating going on because everyone I speak to and all the information that I see is like creating this world where he's going to win in a landslide. And that is because you are being fed an algorithm that is designed just for you based on what you want to see so like that it again it's like a very it's a lonely world by design and that it is it has been designed exactly and only for you and so it doesn't actually like where else are you going to find the people who agree with you, but on social media, because you can't go door to door.

Right. Right. Just thinking of storm in the capitals. Nice to meet you, neighbor. Just knock on the door. Hi, I just wanted to see what you knew about a violent overthrow of the government. And I might be able to interest you in joining us this weekend. It's a quick yes or no. Yeah. violent overthrow of the government and i might be able to interest you in joining us this weekend it's a quick yes or no yeah but the riot was condemned by pretty much everyone except for steve bannon and other mega folks who were like yeah brazilian freedom fighters that's what we're looking at there were some there were some quiet republicans like they're still the ones that are

trying to figure out like where their soul is yeah or. Or they're like, I'm not going to rah rah it, but I can't say that's bad because then I'll get just absolutely, you know, assaulted on the internet by the MAGA people. But yeah, we shall see. Yeah. But Dan, it sounds like you, when we mentioned him earlier, like Steve's a friend, Steve Bannon. Stevie B. Yeah. Steve's a good pal steve bannon stevie b yeah steve's a good pal uh he and i have the same skincare regimen oh great and yeah i just he's a beautiful fun guy love him yeah do the same dental routine to sleep with a bunch of jolly ranchers in your mouth yeah and just i love me i'm like steve how do you get those cool red spots all over you jolly ranchers all your insides are on your outsides because you're so evil that your body can't contain I'm like, Steve, how do you get those cool red spots all over you? Jolly Rangers.

All night. Your insides are on your outsides because you're so evil that your body can't contain any kind of maladies. Yeah. That's true power when your body starts turning itself inside out. Yeah. When you look like the emperor or whatever from Star Wars, you're like, cool, you're in a good spot. You look like the bad guy like the worst bad guy ever made in movies you look like him got that palpatine swag palpatine yeah okay rise and grind i'm on my palpatine palp dude i nailed him you called him palpatine

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2012 you might remember what a time i didn't but you guys did kim kardashian was flower bombed she was being interviewed on the red carpet someone came up and i i thought it was going to be more like violent than it was. It was more of like she was sprinkled with flour. Her head did go back and to the left as it happened. But she was at an event launching a new perfume. It drew attention to the product and the seriousness of baking ingredient based attacks. Absolutely.

Like police were called and everything, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department says deputies were called to the London hotel because somebody threw powder on her. And, you know, you don't know that it's flour. Exactly, yeah. Could be the cocaine that her PR agent was doing. Tea! Also, that's an expensive prank.

Yes. Literally. Don't want to fucking throw, like, a quarter pound of cocaine on somebody okay do you i've got eight ounces of money she bravely refused medical treatment at the time paramedics were called to the hotel but kardashian refused medical treatment and described it as the most craziest unexpected weird thing that ever happened to me oh do you want to jack you said you've never seen it do you want to see the do you want to watch the video the okay the story yeah i mean

the audio is just interesting because she's giving an interview and the person just utters fur hag because it was like an anti-fur protest supposedly but she's giving an interview she's talking she's talking oh here comes a person from the back with the bag here's the thing though this is the beginning of kim kardashian's terrible acting career because knowing what we know now her her reactions are very like i knew that she was gonna she's like feigning outrage she's like oh no she's smiling she's like feigning outrage she's like oh no it's smiling like she's smiling she's smiling right here yeah she's like smiling oh shit it happened according to plan anyway so yeah what were you saying about this adventure and then set up what walks off with her head down like almost like trying to stifle a laugh yeah yeah yeah yeah

or it was kind of doing that thing where like someone threw a like on a reality show where someone throws a drink on someone and they're not trying to let that phase them so they go oh okay right right and just wipe the drink off right before grabbing their hair yeah yeah yeah absolutely anyways we recently learned that it was all a pr stunt she was totally in on. Her PR agent and her planned the faux attack in order to create a media moment. She supposedly told Kim Kardashian, if we create media gold, guess what's going to happen? Everyone's going to be talking about your perfume. Everyone's going to buy it.

Did that happen? I'm wearing it right now. Oh, okay. Oh, gosh. I thought you were saying you always wear white diamonds, you said. It's a little, it's a melange. Oh, you're switching it up? Classy, honey. He's classy.

Didn't Tom Cruise have something similar happen to him too where he got flower bombed? Literally the same year? He got sprayed with a squirt gun, I think. Was it? I thought he got flower bombed too. Oh, did he? I think he did. Maybe they were like, this works so well. Or maybe he got glitter bombed too. Oh, did he? I think he did. Maybe this works so well.

Or maybe he got glitter bombed. He got, I think he, wait, let's see. There's a whole thing he said. Slips get attacked. Glitter bombed. Flower bombed. Kim got the flower. Who is this?

I think Lindsay Lohan got hit with glitter and flower. Oh, yeah. What? Yeah. What? I don't glitter and flour. Oh, yeah. What? Yeah. What? I don't know. That looks like a liquid. What did you say?

Maybe he did get wet. He did at one point get sprayed with a squirt gun. And I just remember because he has this like very friendly facade. But when he got sprayed with a squirt gun, he went away fast. It was. Yeah, because I thought this was a part of something about Mary. Somebody has a screen. I was like, what is happening in this picture? He was pissed. It went away fast. He turned it up. Yeah, because I thought this was a part of something about Mary. Yeah. Somebody has a screen cap. I was like, what is happening in this picture?

So, yeah, he got mad. Lindsay Lohan and the screen cap that they used of her glitter bomb attack looks like she's being hit with molten metal. Yeah. Or like a grenade went off. I don't know. Or like a grenade went off. I don't know. This is interesting to me because it suggests that like there are those times where you hear a conspiracy theory. Like I had recently heard that all the don't worry, darling, extreme media push controversy was all part of some 4D chess plan. And it did seem to like it had a big opening weekend and then yeah kind of died off after that

but that is a big opening weekend is usually a testament to a really successful media push and i don't know like this so first of all it's such a bad idea like to say out loud, we're going to make people buy your perfume by dumping flour on your head. But it is also like the, it was definitely like conceived by someone who was doing too many stimulants, I think, whether it be coffee or what it was, but it's, it does kind of open my mind to, okay, I'm going going to be viewing any anything like this in the future through new glasses because of this right yeah i mean it makes sense because so much is like celebrity is such a spectacle yeah that all you have to do is you know think a little bit ahead of how people are going to respond to what's happening to a celebrity and you get this kind of shit like all the time or like it would be like

oh if someone does this then it's popping if you got all this talk around you know the stuff that was going on set or whatever people are going to be talking because i feel like is the the days we used to just take movies in there would be a billboard there would be a fucking bus bench ad there would be a couple music videos and you knew a movie was coming out right but i think in the age of like the internet everything it's like those same i don't think those work in the same way and they kind of have to do like run psyops on the fucking audience to get them interested on some level right well related but not related i was about the whole, I don't know if you've all talked about it, but the Jen Shah thing, right? So her bringing a fake bag

to her sentencing. Everyone has been talking about that and I'm like, as much as people are like, oh, this thing, I'm like, that's what these reality folks have been crafted to do. They've learned how to make every moment of their like, anything happens. It's a

moment. And so like, i'm not surprised that someone would come out and say kim kardashian's flower blonde thing was a moment for me i'm sorry but i'm laughing because as i'm looking through the photos there's these people vacuuming up the flower and it's taking me down every time i see someone with an actual vacuum vacuuming up the flower. But all that to say, crime scene cleanup. I'm not surprised. Yeah. Clean it up.

Yeah. I'm not surprised at all. Yeah. But I'm curious to hear from you guys, any any Zyke gang, what are stories like this that you always suspected were an inside job? There have been rumors that Paris Hiltonilton and kim kardashian's sex tape leaks were both you know things that they did that you know what whether it was an inside job or not both like exploded their careers and to the stratosphere you know so paris hilton say that wasn't she wasn't a part of that she has come out and said that but it's

always been rumored that so right because because joe was that wasn't a part of that? She has come out and said that, but it's always been rumored that. Right, because I feel like the guy she was with was a total fucking predator. Right. Yeah. I don't know what other things. I mean, I'm not saying this is an inside job, but when the Caitlyn Jenner Vanity Fair cover came out, when she came out, that the day like the renewal of the patriot act was going on and there was a lot of outrage because edward snowden was like being like you know what the nsa is kind of up to right there was a huge conversation around surveillance uh but the debate

like on like the day before there's all this debate going on and then that like they were like trying to get the votes right and they finally got it through just served as a great it was more of an example of a great like pop culture distraction while something really fucking like like despicable is happening yeah yeah yeah that's what i always thought like when you look at the dates of it you're like wow that's i think just more serendipitous for the military industrial complex and surveillance state right then caitlin chenner ends up being a republican politician yeah and then you're like and then at the end it's like it wasn't up right just so you know i feel like julia fox was never interested in kanye but that's not necessarily something i think was a setup that just seems like self-serving like social climbing of the lowest common denominator variety yeah but

i don't know what other you know like was it tom cruise jumping up and down on the couch that felt contrived that did or was that real you know like what where do we land on that i think that was a dean scream level like the media ran with something because they were ready to pile on you're doing the opposite and because he when you picture that moment in your mind what do you see like do you see him jumping up and down on the couch like it's a trampoline yeah in my mind i think so why what actually he jumped on the couch stood there for a second and then jumped off like when you go back and watch it it's somewhat underwhelming he just hopped on yeah he hopped on and hopped on he like i'm not saying the the version that came through into the like collective

consciousness was earned by just like his intent being intense to a degree that it's like well that person's really not human and their career is built on them portraying humans up to that point. And since then, Tom Cruise has been like, all right, what if my thing is just I'm the most intense person and I will die for you to watch my movie? But I don't think the media had to work too hard on that one as opposed to the Dean scream.

But I do think that that one wasn't it was just people were ready to be like this person is we're out on tom cruise right okay yeah that's my theory anyways but yeah he say i love my wife or did he say i love that woman i love that woman i believe is what I remember. Yeah, that's a lot of coke. Very believable. Yeah, there's a lot of... That's a lot of drugs, honey. Yeah.

I don't know, or thetans, you know? Yeah, I think he's just got the natural. He's got that CEO energy, you know? Yeah, because he's like, if he weren't an actor, he'd be like some billionaire who like... Oh, for sure. Let millions of people die like under his watch.

But I don't know. 40% of his day clapping, you know, like just that. Right. All right. Well, speaking of other movie stars, Mel Gibson is reportedly making Passion of the Christ to cruise control as a writer. J.M. put it. It's not called cruise control. But it's going to be Christ control. Yeah. Passion of the Christ 2, Cruise Control, as the writer JM put it. It's not called Cruise Control.

It should be Christ Control. Yeah. But he's apparently just months away from making a sequel to his torture porn blockbuster, The Passion of the Christ. He had talked about the... Wait, what's it about? So this is interesting. So he's talked before about the project

and said that it's going to be wild and a vast theological experience that is an acid trip, which sounded cool to me, much cooler than the first page of the Christ. I don't know if y'all saw that, but that is the least movie like anti-Semitism was a little wacky in that one oh my god and there's just like no there there's no plot it's just a person getting beat until yeah the thing and look and jim caviezel is doing great now yeah it really sent him on he also i'm pretty sure got struck by lightning while he was on the cross during the filming of that movie. It's like, how many signs do you need? Like, this is, this is the sort of thing y'all believe in. Like how many side signs that a,

a God is up there not wanting this to happen. Do you need, if that's what you believe in, but anytime, anyways, the, the idea is that it will happen in the time between Jesus dying and Jesus rising in like some like heaven, hell, netherworld thing. So it's just going to be a totally different genre.

It's going to be. Hey, I love to see someone really take this religious, their religion and treat it with the proper sanctity. Yeah. And respect it deserves being like hey man what about between friday and sunday though what the fuck was what was going on in that's right huh when he was in the cave saturday yeah yeah do you think it starts off like friday like it starts like the first thing you see is fr. It'll start out with, but, but, but, but, but it's Friday. Yeah. But then they,

yeah. Then they have him. What? Like in a, I don't know. It's, I can't believe like someone's fine and whatever. Yeah.

There's always somebody wants to make Jesus stuff. Yeah. So there's a, there's a history of people trying to make sequels of this because Mel Gibson can't like copyright the story of Jesus or antisemitism. So, you know, lots of people have been like, hey, this is a recipe that works. So there was a Christian film producer who tried to crowdfund $40 million to make a sequel. It didn't really go anywhere. Most fucked up attempt to make a follow up to The Passion of the Christ came from the original film's screenwriter, Benedict Fitzgerald. So Benny

Fitz, after the movie came out, was not getting any job offers, which is, you know, it is one of the most successful movies of all time. But on the other hand, the film was, let's say, controversial and also literal garbage. It's one of the worst movies. But also, I was just like curious about like, what was his backstory? Was he working? Like, did he write Lethal Weapon 4 and then Mel Gibson roped him into this or what? Not a ton of credits, but is from like, have you ever seen quiz show movie quiz show where it's with ray fines and john tuturo yeah and this guy who is like from a famous intellectual family

becomes a famous quiz show contestant and gets all the answers but but he's cheating. And like, that's what it seems like this person is. So his dad is a famous poet critic named Robert Fitzgerald. And when he was a kid, Flannery O'Connor babysat him. But so he's like literary royalty. And this was kind of, he like worked on a couple of TV shows and then this was his biggest thing. And then everyone was like,

oh man, we really didn't like that. So he hasn't been able to get work, but he was able to get a big payday by saying, actually, okay, what about prequel? Any interest in a prequel? And everyone's like, hell no. But he was able to raise money to make the movie by turning to a Mexican drug cartel.

OK. Signed an agreement with them. Was was. Oh, they sign agreements? Yeah, exactly. Was shockingly incurious about like, what are these people? Where's all this money coming from? Right.

From these people that nobody in Hollywoodllywood's ever heard of right and the cartel sued him over some money he couldn't pay back and the cartel sued him yes i like that the cartels are like hey man get a business agreement this guy's we don't know this guy yeah we don't know and we don't know how he moves so the cartel signed over the rights to the movie to two men one of whom wanted the other to give up his half of the script and when he refused the other guy kidnapped his brother with the ransom being a faxed note agreeing to give up his half of the passion prequel oh my this is the movie this is the movie i don't understand why someone's not making this a movie just be writing what is happening i'm saying yeah stupid this guy

runs afoul of the cartel there's fucking kidnapping over the rights to the passion of the christ this is the movie why is no one making this is this option has someone optioned this because we should yeah this is actually a fantastic movie that you could make. And you don't have to tell them how to do it. Yeah, exactly. The script was then sold for $1 million to a producer who was immediately

questioned by the DEA. And then when an arrest was made, the government, like the U.S. government, claimed the rights to 10% of the future prophets of mary mother of christ the name of the movie because it was going to be all about mary which they then ended up losing in court like they got sued to give up their rights to it and then after all that movie was never made because the script had become tainted but this is the legacy of a passion of christ sequel which is

like on one level it's like the titanic sequel like it's a thing you would joke about it feels impossible but yeah i should i just not a lot i gotta see this movie now about this fucking guy going to the cartel to make a film that is so awful. And the downward spiral that ensues, that's, that's where I'm at. Yeah.

You know, but I just like the, the, the pivot was all right, then let's do it. Like right after they take them off the cross until Easter Sunday, we'll do that. Okay.

We burned the prequel. We don't, nobody has the rights to the acid trip in the fucking cave in the tomb as it were that's right so we'll see well i'll be eagerly awaiting that talking to satan the snake the serpent do you think what is that gonna look like you know what i mean how do you even do that that won't i feel like even christian people who fucked with the first one might even be offended by whatever the director's depiction is of all this other stuff. Oh, for sure. It's going to be wildly offensive

and boring at the same time like the first one. Is there going to be a scene where he's like, you know what I mean? Like going into a wormhole. They're spinning the camera as he's, yeah. Whoa! And then he lands in like a dark

void. Where am I? Welcome to hell,esus you're mine unless you can beat me in this fiddling contest james brown gets a whole sequence because he's down there entertaining welcome to hell and the door is open and it's just jesus is like what is going on i mean that would be in a way if you said there's a fucking sequence where jesus goes in a fucking wormhole to a black void which is hell and then he has a dance battle with James Brown. Yeah. The lights pop on. Yeah. I'm like, okay,

look, I don't fuck with Mel Gibson, but this is so absurd. I might have to torrent the legal version of the film because I might have to see that. Absolutely. Yeah. I would watch it just to laugh.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh man. Well, so wait, would Jim Caviezel come back for this? I have to imagine. I don't think he, so wait, would Jim Caviezel come back for this? I have to imagine. I don't think he's going to object.

Jim Caviezel, he's gone full right wing mega. Yeah. Yeah. What's that going to do? I know. I mean, talk about controversy on top of controversy. Hey, Pastor of the Christ 2. And it'll probably do extremely well from conflict marketing.

Yeah. Called electric tumulu. Yeah. It is funny to me that they blamed for the flower bombing. Like their made up villain was an animal rights person. Like they're just always, they know. They get blamed for everything. Yeah.

They have the 4D chess mind to know that, like, the media wants to blame. Like, they won't look too deep into that. They would love to blame an animal rights person. Right. Yeah. There it is. But, yeah, I mean, the conflict, the first Passion of the Crisis is probably the best example of conflict marketing. Like, that movie is a monster, monster hit.

Yeah. And I don't, like, they were, churches were being like, it is your duty. You will go to hell if you don't go out and see this movie. Because isn't it an Aramaic tune and shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember that part in a whole bunch of different languages. Yeah. Well, can't wait to see the shroud of Turin.

Like, is he going to use the shroud? Does he tie that up in like a nice head wrap or something? Right. Like Rambo stuff? Yeah.

Oh, wow. Okay. We're starting our own. Yeah. The three of us are about to write this script, John. We have to write it.

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