The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 259 (Best of 1/23/23 -1/27/23)

Episode Date: January 29, 2023

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I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh stravaganza uh yeah so without further ado here is the weekly zeitgeist miles enough beating around we were thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious staff enough with the the shit you being an impending father or whatever you've seen some art we got a we got a heater today

yeah hilarious stand-up comedian comedy writer actor fashion icon yeah whose shirts are available at guarantee shirts yeah one of our all-time favorite tdz guests one of y'all's favorite tdz guests the brilliant the, the raw, the major,

Caitlin Gill! Caitlin Gill! This is me hugging the Zeitgang. I hope you can all feel it. Everybody just got a consensual hug. Only those who want one, if you're not into that, or being catch-tied.

Most of us are huggers. You're fine. Most of you are probably. I feel like it's a huggy crowd. Also, I knew, Miles, that you had excellent handwriting. I knew it. I felt it

in my bones that your handwriting was cultivated and exquisite yeah thank you that was correct it's hi what wonderful praise it is a pleasure as always to join you in your uh lovely third seat thank you it's wonderful to have you here what's your handwriting looking like fast it is hurried my handwriting looks like i am thinking It is hurried. My handwriting looks like I am thinking about the next sentence already and would like to get it on the page. Do you have like, do you have like hybrid cursive printing handwriting? Cause you know how people, like when I hear people who write fast, I always envision like that hybrid cursive while also printing. Is that you? Yeah, it's a little, a lot of letters I've just trained to run together in something like normal.

They're not the shape of a curfew letter, but I'm not lifting a pencil. Who's got the time? Right, right, right. I'm busy. You got to. I will show you a to-do list that has my handwriting on it. Yeah, I was just taking notes about what a guest needs to know on this stained book and I feel like even backwards

you know that that's exactly what it would look like. I will have you know this is a to-do list that I discovered while cleaning out my closet from over I think probably two years ago. I've accomplished half of the things on this to-do list. I'm not bad.

I'm going to say, You didn't put it down. You didn't specify. What if the goals were like climb multiple mountains? But one of the items on the to-do list is just Havana syndrome. Get to the bottom of. How high on the list is that, can I ask? How long have you been writing a list before you were like, I got to get on here. Three,

four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10. It's the 10th item.

Havana syndrome. Just enough said future self. You know what this means? Oh, shit. Oh, man. It's like shitty memento.

It's like, what? What? Havana syndrome. Figure it out. Figure it out. Solve the JFK assassination. Havana syndrome. What else you got? Climate change? Area 51.

One of my favorite jokes in the world, Sean Keane wrote himself so he would remember it because he knew he was not in a state to remember it when it occurred to him at the time and it is a list of soy cheese names that make me laugh like like a shot like i hear that i've heard that i request that joke anytime i can make sean keen do it for me and if when next time you talk to comedian sean keen i or listen to him i highly encourage that you uh shout out soy soyeses. I will just cite my favorite, Monterey John. I swear it's the best thing I've ever heard! Monterey John! I love that. But that was in a note he left himself and discovered.

The meaning of which I'm so thankful he retained. Can you imagine just opening your phone to see the phrase Monterey John and having no frame of reference? What were you thinking? Why has this been written? What past self decided that that was a necessary note? I remain ever thankful that Sean held on to just enough shreds of that memory to put together one of my favorite pieces of stand-up material of all time. It also relies on a knowledge that Jack is

a nickname for John, which the majority of the United States does not have. I will, I will have, you know, as somebody who is a born John who goes by Jack, most people are like, why the hell do you do that? That's strange. I'm a Catherine derivative. I can go so many ways. Yeah. Katie. That's right. And whatever I can. Yeah. I just can't stop starting with cats, but all the Kate ones are allowed to somehow feel like Courtney sneaks right. I just can't stop starting with cats, but all the Kate ones are allowed too. Yeah. I feel like Courtney sneaks in. I could just do it if I wanted. Why not?

I'm Courtney now. And Miles, you just have a cool name. So you're like, yeah, I'm good. Oh, Miles, I would coach that. I think I've said it before. I always wanted to be DJ in the 90s. Oh, God. Yeah. I was like, always wanted to be DJ in the 90s. Oh, God. Yeah.

I was like, why aren't I DJing? That felt like the sickest name. And I remember, I was like, yo, this name is fucking bullshit. Why can't I be DJ? DJ Tanner. Yeah. There's other kids. That is such a 90s thing.

Oh, yeah. This one kid, DJ, was like the coolest kid in my grade at the time. They're like, oh, she's surfing and shit. He's like a good surfer when we were like 10. You know what I mean? So he was killing it. Now he's like a storied lifeguard in Oahu. He never strayed from his beach path as a human being.

Now he's like, this is what I'm good at. Once a DJ, always a DJ. That's a game you have to swing into hard. Yeah, exactly exactly you can't back down from your choices as a dj exactly in a way i'm glad i did not i did not pursue that name switch and i stayed with miles and that led me towards them that kept me on my musical path so yeah okay yeah very well dj could have kept you on a very different musical it would have been two on the nose i feel like yeah you know and here's dj dj like nah come on i personally love it but that's not a great indicator of its quality i think yeah that's trolley dj names now are like the best like there's a guy named trilbo swaggins who i've seen on bills and like la DJ Yamba Yobi is another one I love.

Like those are just funny. Like I would lean into that, but yeah, as a kid, like I remember I was DJing under the name prime. Yeah. With a one, with a one for the eye.

Okay. No fucking around. That was awesome. I am seen on this side. What a time to be alive. Truly the early nineties. I have a long thing I want to talk about that we don't have time for, about the name Michael in the late 80s, early 90s, and why it was having such a run.

I don't have any answers. It was a thing. So when I was in college, we had to have multiple mics. There was moccasin mic, second floor mic, there was tall mic, there was short mic. We had to delineate the mics. They all got a prefix handle. And also the most famous humans in america were all named mike and then the ninja turtles came along and the coolest ninja turtle was michelangelo it's what why and then since then no like not a lot of cool mics got mike pence this is a stand-up bit I'm working out. Yeah, yeah, go on. Go off, King. What's fun about that is you're guaranteed

to have a mic in every audience. Get ready. Put plenty in your pocket for that. Hey, I'm a cool mic. You get on stage. Hey, so where's Mike at? If your name's Mike, raise your hand right now. Alright, Mike. The fuck out of here.

What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I was just looking at my history from yesterday. We had caper vinaigrette, which I was trying to figure out how to make for dinner. And also racist Dutch theme park. I was doing my friend's podcast and there's a theme park in the Netherlands called Efteling that recently, after a long battle, changed some very racist rides that they had. So I needed to bone up on that. So theme park, international theme park controversy. Wow.

Whoa. There's a couple of theme parks dealing with some racist controversy that they're having to undo yeah are the dutch like crying over the fact that they had to change their theme park like they do at disney world or they were really holding on to it and this stuff was way more that oh no oh monster cannibal okay yeah you found it yeah this is fucking violence oh my god and it only changed like very recently yeah and uh i mean it's a whole it's a whole different culture they have over there i suppose but they also have like a very racist ripoff of it's a small world with scenes of like africa and asia i mean just like crazy stuff that this uh still existed but and they changed that but they kept uh monsieur cannibal they were holding on to that one they

finally changed that one but i wanted to make sure i had my facts right so yeah that's what i was looking up yesterday yeah monsieur cannibal for people who don't even if you're not googling basically it's like a teacup ride where all these like pots over fire are rotating around a central like racist figure of what i'm believing is to be some kind of african person who is going to eat the people it's the most shockingly offensive thing uh that you've ever seen anyone's ever seen i'm surprised that the photo of it is in color. Like, that's how racist it is. I'm like, wait, this is before color cameras, right?

Yeah, and their excuse was like, well, you gotta understand this ride was made like 30 years ago. It's like, 30 years ago? This was not okay 30 years ago. In the 80s? We made this back in the late 80s. So you have to understand. This came out right after soul man was

released in theater so this can't be too offensive yeah right what the fuck oh my god i wonder did was the ice cream cone always there because he is eating an ice cream cone which seems yeah are you saying that makes it okay no i'm wondering if they tried to make it okay by being like, he's not just eating people. He also likes ice cream. That's not like African, like ice cream. Not necessarily. It doesn't mean he's an African.

Cause he likes that. That feels like police reform where it's like, let's change this one thing. And everyone's like, that's not the fucking problem. I don't know. The problem is that he wasn't eating ice cream. They had it. I don't know. The problem is that he wasn't eating ice cream. They added the ice cream.

Shit. What is something you think is overrated, Vince? I think canceling plans is overrated. I don't know at what point it became a thing to brag about how much you enjoy canceling plans online, but I don't know. I personally

hate when people do that, and I don't think it's that cool, and I think you should... It's more fun to meet up with people yeah i think it's it's cooler to just say no off yeah right yeah don't cancel them say you want to nah yeah because then the person knows how much food they get yeah exactly oh yeah no that's that's poor form you know what i mean if if there's a head count and you got to provide or whatever, and then people suddenly like 30% of the guest list is like, you know what, actually,

nah. Yeah. And everybody has that one friend who doesn't like to disappoint people, so their maybe is like an automatic no, and their yes is actually you translate it back to a maybe in your mind. Yeah. Right. They're like, look, Jono'sono's gonna say yes but it's a no i know him two days out he's gonna be like hey actually i'm like i already know i already know i never sorry we we didn't

even buy enough food for you man it's good i've known you since i've known you since preschool man i know what i know what yes means i got some frozen pot stickers in case you decide to show up. That's going to be your food. It's a very good point. It's a thing that I think it's been an underrated on our show and I vehemently agreed with that because I do have social anxiety and sometimes it feels

like a lot to show up to a thing. But usually when I show up to a thing after the fact I'm glad I did. Like, right. But I think more than, I think more, the thing that we liked about the canceling plans thing was just, was more so saying no to offers of plans, because I feel like that was the big pandemic shift for me was you say yes to everything pre pandemic. And then I was like, nah, like being able to like have my own boundaries is actually really important to me. So then on the other side

of it, I'd be like, yeah, you know what? Actually, I don't think I'll be able to make it where I used to be like, I might, you know what? Let me check. Let me look. Now I'm just like, nah, I ain't gonna work. Maybe next time. I did have a friend who was like an aggressive, aggressive invite turner downer where he would not only say no, but like reply to the group email with all the reasons that he would not be doing that. And you know what? Had to respect it. Oh, yeah. That's brilliant. Were the reasons like you guys aren't my favorite conversationalists? I mean, it was usually, no, it was not like the Banshees of Innisher, and it was usually more like he didn't want to drive more than 10 minutes, and it would be like, oh, sorry, I didn't bring my East Bay passport, because I will not be doing that. Ben, what is something you think is underrated? Oh, specificity of the English language.

See above the word calendrical. Calendrical is pretty good, actually. It is pretty good. I like the specificity of it to the earlier statement about the German language just cramming a bunch of shit together and saying, you know, that's just the thing. I think we wrote about this back at Cracked, just the wildest words that exist in foreign languages, and I think one of them. I think we wrote about this back at Cracked, just the wildest words that exist in foreign languages, and I think one of them, I think it was in German, and it might have been in Russian, was like

giving birth while standing in an alleyway out of shame. There's a word for that? Yeah, there's a word for that. Just like the process of not even laying down to give birth because you don't want anyone to notice.

How come no one fenestrates? How come falling out a window is the fenestration? Yeah. I mean, it's always there for when it happens, you know? I just think it's, I think it's fun. I feel like I get some. Also, do not Google German giving birth in an alleyway by standing up.

Just saying. That's not a way to figure out the word. No, that's a good note. That's a good note. I keep my safe search on because I Google some weird shit. Yeah, it's just between you and the NSA, Jack. That's right.

They're like, he's completely off the scent of the JFK assassination. We got him all looking up German words. We see it into his brain through these other podcasts. He's completely off the scent of the JFK assassination. We got him all looking up German words. We see it into his brain through these other podcasts. We're good. They have their own doomsday clock for how close I am to the truth about the JFK assassination. He's fucking five seconds, boy. Oh, and there's a specific word for it.

It's like Jack Chronologicalanderikist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Alright, let's take a quick break. Just to that point, though, I'm sorry, because, Jack, you talk about a feature of the German language, which I think does have this specificity, and I don't know, I feel like we don't have a lot of specificity

in the English language. Like, we use a lot of words from other languages sometimes to, like, encapsulate something, but we don't have like these kind of like when we do it's like mashup shit you know what I mean or like slam you know what I mean? Oh yeah no the English language I feel like is we have

we have to use a lot of different words to get at a concept a lot of the time the English language is a bunch of people freestyling for fucking thousands of years and just going with stuff you know know, like, so someone was like, like, imagine how weird it is. You know, you're learning English. Sometimes you're close to something. Sometimes something's about to close. That's fucking confusing and no one's going to

fix it. We're all just sort of vibing off that. Anyway, I love it. I feel like I'm still learning this language. That is one of the things that comes up constantly when you have a kid, the calendar less so in my experience, but the spelling and how completely fucking arbitrary it is, especially because like my kids are also learning Spanish. And so, Spanish just follows rules. So, it's just like, oh, yeah, that's how you spell that. And then English is, yeah, it just seems to. It's I before E except. You're like, what?

Right. They seem to get distracted, like, halfway through words sometimes. Okay, okay. It's a real fucking mess. I'm going to level with you. English is a colonizer language where we steal a bunch of other words from other people. That's why the spelling is all over the place. Like shampoo is like from the Indian, like an Anglo-Indian, like a Hindi word.

You know what I mean? Like the doctors from the Philippines. Yeah, like there's so many things where it's like, what does that mean? It's like, look, we kind of, once we got our boats up and running, we just started jacking other people's words. Yeah. Didn't have our best people on it. I do wonder, like, do other languages, like, is there some sort of, like,

centralized body that is like, no, that's fucking stupid. Another colonizer. France has a national body to just keep their shit buttoned up on language, on the language front. Oh, interesting. It's a true story.

Well, I don't know if it's interesting. I don't speak French. I just walk around Paris, you know, doing like a slight overbite, you know, like, like I look like I say my O's right, you know? Right, right, right. There you go. All right. Let's take a quick break.

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And okay, it wasn't everyone. It wasn't the New York Times. The New York Times got this wrong as fuck. A lot of fucking places. All these mainstream media sources that love the people just immediately trust. Have you seen their Trump coverage? Yeah, they're liberal. OK, yes.

Granted, they're liberal. It's like, no, they're not. They are right of center. Anyways, so the shoplifting epidemic that was sweeping the nation. One of the big people crying foul and actually crying wolf was Walgreens. I remember this being a big story before any of them kicked it off. Walgreens was like,

can barely keep the dang doors open in San Francisco because what is shoplifting? It's just the wild West. It's tearing this family apart. Yeah. And it's like what everybody thought. They're like, so what's it like in California?

Like you just don't have to pay for stuff. You just walk in and smash and grab everything you want from a Walgreens. Is that how California is now? I mean, as a shoplifter. Yeah. I mean, you can do that everywhere though. It's not, yeah. You could do that everywhere, though.

It's not just California. Live free. Live free, sovereign consumer, as I call them. But yeah, there was this whole thing of like, it's destroying the economy in San Francisco, and like, they have to close five stores because of a lack of law and order.

And this guy, the CFO, got on this call and he basically said, they cried too And this guy, the CFO, got on this call and he basically said they, quote, cried too much last year about the supposed problem. And as a result, they've overspent on security to try and stop the non-existent bleed. And in fact, when you look at the numbers, they said things got better this last year for the company in terms of losses.

They said, as they call it, the rate of shrink, which is like loss due to theft fraud damages mis-scanned items etc fell from three and a half percent to around two and a half percent which is not good by industry standards as i've read but we knew this and we were saying this along with many others that don't rely on the words of police and the c-suite of companies to shape their worldview like and the thing that pisses me off is that the data was there. Like there was a San Francisco Chronicle article that was like, I mean, and other earnings calls, they talked about how just the cost of doing business in San Francisco is really fucking difficult because of the real estate costs. And they

expanded too quickly. And they're kind of like, and that also helped like make the decision that they were going to close some locations down. So on top of it all, like, again, all of this was like there for most people to see and just say, I don't I don't know if it's quite rising to this, but we were just fed this steady stream of like videos of like people like shoplifting at pharmacies. And you're like, oh, no, what's going on and now like the places like cnn and the new york times are writing articles that are critical of walgreens and like my god crunching the numbers in their reporting to show the lie that they were lying this whole time like what the damn straight i've been to those walgreens do you know how hard it is to shoplift gum from there it's impossible yeah they have like cameras they have like metal detectors they've got security guards everywhere and then they have like cameras they have like metal detectors they've got security guards

everywhere and then they have the mirrors all over the place right the um also the shrinkage like they they use this term that's like lost from theft that or like i i feel like it was from george costanza yeah i thought it was from cold water but. Yeah, I thought it was from Cold Water. But I think they're always lumping it in with something else that is less sexy, but it is actually the thing that is causing them to lose more money. I remember there was a Walmart story about this, where they were blaming theft for a huge loss of like inventory but then people actually looked in and it's like more likely you're just bad at tracking your inventory

and also you're trying to replace clerks with all of these automated self-checkouts and people are inadvertently not paying for things or just like conveniently forgetting to scan something. Yes, for me, it's inadvertent and convenient. And they're not, you know, they just don't want to admit that because they just it's a cost saving thing that they knew was going to be a problem coming into it. But because the media, because these mainstream media outlets were so gullible and so just willing to, you know, be credulous that like, yes, theft is out of control. The poors are coming and they've they're breaking down the doors and stealing all our stuff. Oh, the poor little billionaires.

They have to worry about the great big poors. It's the same reason that they love those doorbuster sales where everyone's pushing each other out of the way to get the flat screen TVs. It's like, look at these poor consumers. They love a zombie movie. The local news, the mainstream media, they love to make it

seem like the poor people are out of control. We're hungry masses coming in tsunami waves with our claspers ready for your common candy. Take your detergent and Tide Pods and other things. But yeah, it's just

all self-created. The thing that really fucking blows my mind is that they actually quoted Alec Karakatsanis in the New York Times. He's been going fucking head-to-head on Twitter every time they post one of these dumb crime wave pieces. And now they want to fucking hit him up for a quote about the media's lack of like attention on this or just like kind of going, you know, really casually along with the narratives that were being put out by these companies and the police. Like, come on. He's surgically disassembled every one of these articles that you have like published, like in real time. You publish it an hour later. he has explained like what okay so this quote is from a cop this quote is from the better business bureau in your city like this

quote is just pulled from a walgreens earnings call where it was like conveniently lumped in with this other thing that you were losing money on And just like he told you in real time that this was bullshit. And now all of a sudden you're I mean, I'm glad they're coming around to the reality of their fucked up reporting, but I'm sure that's that's not how they're going to, you know, portray it or even like perceive it. Yeah, it's yeah. Again, I mean mean this is all again like you're saying all of the policy or political points that were scored with getting the media lockstep with this narrative was basically to push back against a lot of the progressive da's like chaser boudin in san francisco was ran out on a rail because of precisely this narrative of like and there's

no fucking nothing in san francisco get them out but you look at the primaries and what happened in november a lot more progressive da's got elected right oh so it's like this you know you just you can kind of you it's always you know it's it's when these these stories come out you're like oh of course you're all everyone you're all working together because it's the same aim yeah this is like a real Law & Order episode now. Right? We need like the... Yeah, like in May of 2021, California Today, New York Times, San Francisco shoplifting surge.

They got a picture of Walgreens. Walgreens has closed stores in San Francisco because of shoplifting. Is your fucking sub headline on the front image? And now you're like, wow, what happened? Man, shut the... Get the fuck out of here. And that's also your best picture if like hordes of

shoplifters are invading Walgreens. Your best picture is just like a closed store. Yeah, just the exterior of one. Where are all the poor zombies right it's just really anyway so well done the new york times and cnn and others that breathlessly just paraded this on and then now you're like oh that guy was just talking bullshit how it turns out yeah you fell for it they only caught the like five times i've done it. Yeah. I mean, nobody checks anymore.

I wonder if it was a bad strategy for them to, I mean, I don't know what their other option was, but their strategy really seemed to be like California is a socialist failed state that has, you know, the socialist DAs have lost the city. And so everybody elsewhere in the country is like, man, California's really gone to shit. We're fine here, it turns out. And oh, not my progressive DA. Because everybody seems to be voting progressive when it comes to DAs. Or not everybody, but at least the people who vote.

They love doing that with California, period. We have wildfires and they're like, it's because of all the gays rubbing claspers. That's California. They're terrible and it's God's hand. Yeah, I mean, it is. No, actually our money's all being funneled into the Midwest and that's why we have no infrastructure.

Amelia, look at where, I what it like you're saying it helps to have this like boogeyman to point to it like you know i always use the metaphor of the m night shawmalan movie the village to be like you don't want to go out there yeah it's all fucking weird and spooky like you'd never you couldn't even fucking fathom yeah but then oh my god don't tell me the ending miles don't tell me, don't tell me the ending, Miles. Don't tell me the ending. I didn't tell you the ending. All right. I didn't tell you the ending.

But a plane flies overhead and that kind of fucked it all up. Anyway, all that to say, you know, we're, we help fulfill that sort of myth

for a lot of the conservative myth makers who want to, you know, do everything they can to be like, no, progress is so fucked up and bad,

like it leads to Walgreens closing because they actually aggressively expanded and relied on not paying proper wages and automation. Did I get that right? But truly it is bad out here, so don't move out here.

Don't move to Los Angeles especially. Stay where you're at. Traffic's fucking horrible in North Carolina, that's real. It got worse. Yeah, I know, that's why I'm telling them to fuck off. It got worse. This is the worst it's ever been. I feel like traffic. I don't know what the fuck is happening. Since we got back from the holiday, it's bad been I feel like traffic since we got back from the holiday it's bad I've tried to go

to that uh fucking Griffith Park Observatory like three times and every time it's like a fucking it's like Space Mountain it's like a three hour line you'd have to like park by the studio in Hollywood yeah exactly close to walking up the hill

that's why you gotta come to Modesto. Nobody goes anywhere. I know. It's so dumb to like keep going to the same place that is, you know, just as beautiful as like 20 other things. All I need to do. I ended up just finding a bunch of other better parks. Take them up to the Mount Wilson Observatory, man.

Hey, so anyways, fuck you, Griffith Park Observatory. I don't need you. Anyways. I mean, just skipping down to somebody who is, has actually gone on the record in court being like, I am a professional wrestling character that, you know, Alex Jones. Our writer, JM, was pointing out, he was doing some research,

watching the thing, and noticed that like one of the logos was HAL 9000, but it was like kind of sweaty. It didn't make sense as a reference. And so he looked into it. And Alex Jones apparently is weirdly obsessed with Stanley Kubrick and making the case that Stanley Kubrick is like a right-wing prophet. A few years ago, they published an editorial about how the world of A Clockwork Orange bears an uncomfortable resemblance to our own. The film is too bold, too brash, too brazen in its honest yet stylized depiction of the foibles and failures of humanity in our society and too unflinching in its artistic honesty and insight for like our soft modern world which is funny first of all it's funny to like take the entire point of a dystopian sci-fi movie which is to like show

you a world that seems different but then the more more you watch, you're like, ah, but I see the similarities and, you know, and just like say it in a tone that makes it sound like it's a conspiracy that they've done this, like that it's a secret message that they're sending you. Reminds me of like the Da Vinci code where they like took symbolism in art and like reduced it to the level of like a crossword puzzle where you're like when you look at her hand she's actually pointing at a word jumble that's written over here in invisible ink that you have to solve to to find out the clue but also it's just ignoring i don't know they act like it's too woke for our world. And it's a movie that was incredibly controversial when it came out in the seventies,

like it sparked massive protests and like Stanley Kubrick banned it in the UK, like decided not to distribute it. But yeah, it's just wild to, again, like the weird confirmation bias set to 9 million or whatever. It just like,

like every like, yeah, oh, I can see it now. But again, it's always having to be, you know, bending towards whatever you need it to me to mean. And in this case, I just love it's like, oh, exactly. He foretold all of these issues, except I'm not quite sure which side of this equation I'm actually on. Yeah. And then he had Stanley Kubrick's daughter, Vivian Kubrick on, and apparently she's a huge Alex Jones fan now and is, yeah, I don't know, like violent art, far right memes on Twitter and publicly proclaimed her admiration of Alex Jones when she came on and said, I've been listening to Alex Jones for many years. I know how accurate he has been about what's going down on this planet. And also she's wearing a headlight

and a GoPro camera on her head and said that enemies of humanity are running the world and they might be extraterrestrials. And that was like in the first five minutes of the show which is just it's such a bummer it truly is that like i don't know it's it's getting to everyone you know right alex jones also thinks stanley kubrick had psychic powers and that's where he got his movie ideas again just a like wild just attempt by someone who's not creative to understand the creative process. He must've been had some, someone sending him psychic messages.

Like, how did you come up with Dr. Strangelove five years before, you know, the, the Cuban missile crisis or the decade before the Cuban missile crisis. And it's like that there was, it was based on a dramatic novel that had already been singled out by the Pentagon forile Crisis. It was based on a dramatic novel

that had already been singled out by the Pentagon for its accuracy. Repeatedly, he just kept confusing. Stanley Kubrick did really careful and intense and broad research for all of his movies. The other thing, he's like, eyes wide shut. I've seen seen masked orgies in my time but he like dropped that as an aside he was like when i was a teenager i

went to some satanic masked orgies and just like didn't didn't go further into that but he took the eyes wide shut orgy as like a sign that he was telling on actual like orgies that Stanley Kubrick had been invited to when in fact it was like this deep historical research into actual you know rituals from the 18th and 19th century like how those things actually went down also their conspiracy is that eyes wide shut was about like the real illuminati and that like powerful celebrities had kubrick killed because he died right after completing the movie which is just doesn't really hold together as a like why would he's he'd been working on that since like the 60s yeah they should have killed him before they should have killed him before he completed it right i like that they're just like yeah just the assassins are like hold on let him cook i want to see what he's doing i want to see what he's got going

they're like yeah i'm a big fan wait no we gotta finish it but then yeah we gotta punish him yeah and also again yeah the question of where he got the idea for Eyes Wide Shut could have been solved with Google. Like, that's the thing is so many of these kind of long running conspiracy theories and this kind of this comes up in Paul T. Goldman as well. Google like just a little bit of Google not even you know prolonged and detailed research but just a little bit to be like oh there are these four other explanations that also make sense. Yeah I mean to what you guys are talking about in terms of confirmation bias it's like yeah it's kind of the backwards you decide what the truth is and then you make every bit of information you find line up with it and kind of willfully ignore anything that contradicts it or adds complexity to it but yeah i mean you see that happening everywhere well and then i did want to you know just follow that story up with a story about why that will

be the last time that we ever talk shit about rich people or corporations because now they are suing us. Yeah. Not us specifically, but they're going after people who like to connect the dots out loud on the influence of money and Beto O'Rourke or also known as skateboard B is being sued. Is he known as that? I just decided to do that as a Pharrell reference, but we all know,

we know he gets down on that skateboard. We saw him get down in that Whataburger parking lot. Um, but you know, he's being sued by this natural gas magnate in Texas. Why did he do something criminal? Oh, he pointed out the fact that the natty gas pimp gave governor Greg Abbott $1 million right after the governor signed a bill into law that created a loophole for natural gas operators to be able to opt out of mandated winterization of their infrastructure? Well, what does that even mean? It's not like that could ever harm anyone. I know. What do you mean? Winterization. I have to put chains on my tires. Who gives a shit?

What could winter be like? How bad could winter in Texas be? Thank you. Did anything bad happen a couple of winters ago where properly winterized infrastructure could have prevented the death of hundreds and the loss of power for millions? Yeah, where unregulated costs led to the just absolute robbery of people

trying to not die in their homes. There was in 2021. And then Abbott signed a bill like a few months later that made it seem like he was addressing the issue of like the winter storm. And he was like, I want to make it look like I'm advocating for Texans by saying we got it. We actually have to get serious about mandating or like mandating like the proper winterization of infrastructure and like not allowing these operators to price gouge people. But again,

he left a loophole for the natural gas gang which is why the tech and the texas tribune points to the natural gas operators as quote the primary cause of outages during that time so what the fuck is going on and what is this distraught man to do for beto o'rourke saying things like this guy's influencing the governor or bribing him oh well he just pointed that out the greg abbott thing he was just like yeah he's like bill was fucked up yeah he's like look at it he's like he's carving out loopholes for his buddy this guy gave a million dollars you think this isn't connected this is directly relates to his business and way of making money and this is this is the kind of corruption

where it got but you know like any any person who's like running for office with that sort of set of ideals is going to articulate. Well, his lawyers now are saying like, well, you know what? They said this natural gas tycoon experienced, quote, mental anguish from comments, ads and social media posts in which O'Rourke's campaign suggested that the money was a reward for Abbott going easy on him. What else? Tell us what else, honey. Let's soothe your wounds. Quote, Beto O'Rourke told millions of his followers that Warren engaged in bribery, corruption and extortion and that he profited from the death of his fellow Texans simply because Mr. Warren gave a perfectly legal campaign contribution to the candidate of his choosing, Governor Abbott. When you look at the comments that his followers put in on his tweets they believe him they believe that mr warren is

a criminal that is engaged in profit over the lives of texans yeah yeah yeah yeah so your profits see the reason is if you spent the fucking money to properly protect your infrastructure and prevent the power outages for people which wouldn't have led to their deaths. After the fact, that's the wild thing. This is not like a thing where it was like, ah, hindsight 2020, we

would have really addressed that fucker. They are doing this and paying him millions of dollars campaign contribution after they've their fuck up has already led to people dying has already led to like a national news like just disaster like something that everybody was talking about and they're like yeah okay so the next thing we need to do is uh is make sure that nothing no consequences are ever felt from this right like i

i don't know i'm looking for some silver lining here and remember that our perfectly balanced judicial system is it runs on a on a system of precedent now if we could establish a precedent that mental anguish is enough to sue a politician for then perhaps perhaps we're onto something here uh maybe even corporate i've experienced mental anguish from every overdraft fee that i've ever experienced maybe a little class action suit in that direction is in order i've experienced you, mental anguish. Oh, I remember when I was in college and I had to get all those loans because like we made tuition and a student fees in the California public university system. Why don't I remember that being quite a source of mental anguish. Maybe the half million students a year that were in school with me in the state of California would

like to get together and see if there's a little something we can do to compensate ourselves for what we suffered. You know what i'm saying yeah i just yeah but if we could start suing people for mental anguish and that i i just think that maybe we're onto something here the mental anguish and if the judicial system wasn't run by billionaires right we'd be in business hey you never know let's let's open the doors but again like many people are saying like obviously it's a bullshit slap lawsuit and it's, you know, meant to chill the speech of candidates

or anyone who's wanting to point out that we live in this fucking oligarchy. So, you know, there's that. And it could be a great blueprint for other, you know, very sensitive earth fuckers who don't want to hear people accurately describe their actions.

But yeah, it's a little... It does have a dystopian 1984 flip the language vibe. Yeah. You told the truth about me, so I'm suing you. It's just an interesting state to be in. And I mean, when you also look at it too, this guy, this gas guy, he's making sure everybody's paid. You know what I mean?

Ken Paxton, the attorney general after the storm, he's like, we got to look into these gas companies, man. What the fuck was that storm about? It looks like they were gouging. The price gouging was out of control. But since then, he's refused to say like what's going on with that investigation. And then if you look at the donations, the same guy, Kelsey Warren's given at least $200,000 to Paxton throughout his career. So it's like he stays on the good side of him and then also the texas railroad commission which is the body that oversees like oil and gas and stuff in the state you know and like talks about price caps and things like that he's given like over 390 000 to like texas railroad commission candidates in the last decade so you know i mean if anything it's just one of these weird things where you see how it works but again they're like we have to prove the intent in court right you know i mean like he was just giving to like and it's it's this nebulous language that is allowed to for them to have a defense we're going i'm merely participating in the civics pro the civic process here and just giving money to a preferred candidate without really you know but we're not going to actually analyze what that

means right and I think that's what this lawsuit could end up boiling down to. Anyway, Beto O'Rourke is being sued for a million dollars. Yeah. I think Beto O'Rourke's just mad he's not a baller like this guy, you know. Yeah. And I think that's what this guy was saying.

He's like, it's just all these haters, they hate that we're ballers. And what's the problem? Let's not call this Alva Verfield Beta. I hate that we're ballers. And what's the problem? We'll call this Alva's Earth in beta. I feel like we're, this is the, I mean, chads are finally stepping up to assert their dominance in court, which it's about time. I can see by the visual representation that this is the apex of the white

male. This is, this is it. This is, yeah. We're not getting much. Every billionaire looks like flaccid wet sausage. But it's just something that happens, I guess, when you have that much money. Speaking of flaccid wet sausage, we got a fucking flaccid wet sausage all-star coming up in our next story. It's true.

I scrolled down to look at this guy's picture, and I saw in the document, which you so kindly prepare for guests there, you've included a photograph of a certain gentleman. And I mistook him for a billionaire because he has billionaire body, which is about the compliment I could give him, which I think we all recognize is not praise. And he has like he has like that vibe, like when you're so privileged, like you still look like a baby because you've never had to live still. Like you said, you're not surprised to hear the stories about. Yeah. 100%. With his haircut, that dodgy haircut.

The haircut. Oh my God. Yeah. It looks like, yeah, I got it. Who's the owner of the Raiders who has the bowl cut? Yeah.

With the haircut. Yeah. Not Al Davis. Yeah. Al Davis is, I think it's Al Davis? With the haircut. Wait, not Al Davis? Yeah, Al Davis is, I think it's Al Davis' son, maybe? Oh, yeah, yeah, he's got that, he's got that really wild edge up, like, he's got a Caesar with bangs,

basically. Yeah, yeah. Caesar with bangs. Like, real real aggressive. Bring it all to the front. I guarantee he wasn't like, give me an edge up. But yeah. Yeah. The person I'm talking about is Mark Davis, Al Davis' son.

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there is no confirmed new OutKast album. Just rumors. So anyone else who was Googling or about to Google. I'm old. I can't tell the difference between when Miles is joking and not anymore. But let's talk Oscar. Look, like I said, I'm a great liar like George Santos. Breathlessly will say things like OutKast has a new album.

But he's a bad liar. That's the amazing thing. He's a bad liar. God, Republicans, come pay my bills, y'all. That is how the Republicans want you to. Exactly. Let me tell you about the scourge of biracial people. Who better would know except for me, a misfortunate

biracial person. I wish I could change things if I could, y'all. But yeah. I mean, luckily I'm alright. I'm alright. So we're saying Santos is probably not up for an Oscar. You know what? We should just fucking ask him. I bet he's got a supporting role in something.

Yeah. He's probably gonna claim he was Jamie Lee Curtis, actually, in everything, everywhere, all at once. One of his performances at least was inspired by him. He's like, you know the hot dog thing, those sausage fingers? Those long-ass fingers? That was me. Yeah.

Yeah. I gave that to Daniel. I forget which Daniel it was, but I told Daniel. But I think just generally, as we talked about before, the direction that America wants to move like that, that like the mainstream American culture, like you can tell a stupid lie in the direction of like right wing fascism and like right wing fascist talking points and it's going to work for you you can throw a coup that tries to overthrow the government and they will bury that shit if that had been a coup the the business plot in the early 30s if that had been a coup like to try and do a communist overthrow of the u.s government they got as far as it did that like we the heads of the plotters would still be on pikes like in

every u.s city and their family members like that they would still there would be museums to that yeah there'd be country songs about it and shit yeah all right oscar noms best picture so it's a fun category we got we got hits. We got Avatar, The Way of Water, Banshees of Inishiren, All Quiet on the Western Front, the German film that came out on Netflix. Shout out to my middle school teacher who made me read that book.

Yeah, it's a classic of middle school teachers. Shout out to Spark Notes on that one. You just got to live in it for a second. Yeah. Elves, which I think is part of the Santa Claus universe. No, I think that's Elvise. Oh, Elvise. Yeah.

Oh, no, Elvis. My brain is refusing to acknowledge that Elvis is in the best picture category. But all right, man, we're in the year of maximalism it's on the list right there next to everything everywhere all at once which deserves to be there the fableman's which i haven't seen tar top gun maverick triangle of sadness which i need to see still that's like kind of the one on this list that i'm i'm like excited to see and women talking that one seems fucking heavy which is the title of a film that's not just some random thing jack said yeah dude that have you heard about that film that one i mean women women

talking yeah yeah yeah yeah i want to see that one too for sure such a sarah paulie yeah exactly or sarah paulson no sarah paulie no sarah paul. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anyways, there's some snubs. The best director category is all dudes, right? You couldn't even get Sarah Polly in there. Like you're bothering to nominate women talking for best picture, but then you can't even be like, and you know, it might be one of the best directors too. That made one of the best pictures. Yeah. They were like women directing. That's too far. Women talking will allow it. That's right. Yeah.

The Women King, which was pretty dope, kind of got shut out. It didn't get nominated for Best Picture, didn't get nominated for Director. Viola Davis was viewed as a frontrunner for a nomination for The Woman King and just got snubbed. So that, that one's pretty frustrating. Let me ask a question though, because you guys are way more plugged into this sort of stuff than I am.

Who the fuck is Oscar? Like I, I know there's the Academy Awards. They said it, it look, I think the old myth is that it resembled someone's uncle named Oscar. And that's how that, that name got like put onto the statuette.

I mean, I trust you, but this sounds like some Santos level stuff. I don't look it up. Look it up. I believe you. I believe you. Uh,

but I just like the Academy awards. Can we say, I knew we were going to talk about this. There's a lot of great film out there, but it feels kind of rigged, dare I say. Like, I'm not plugged in. I'm not in the Producers Guild of America or whatever. I'm not getting anybody checking in

on what I think about a film's merit. But, like, how can you... Hey, hey, but they do ask us about the iHeart Podcast Awards now. They do. They do. We are involved in some award giving that's all internal, yes.

Yeah, we're kind of big. But the thing is, is the Academy Award process, is it something that you guys would say is fair? Or is it something that's more like changing in the wind of opinion? I just don't know. I'm clueless on this.

I think more than I think the one consistent thing that I remember Jack saying early on was like, like, include movies that do well. Like, stop looking at it through this narrow lens of like cinema, because now like this is like the first year that we're like, oh, look at these blockbusters that are fully like part of it. oh, look at all these blockbusters that are fully part of it. But I mean, on some level, all of these things are easy to influence because for the longest time, the criticism was levied against the Oscars that they're just copying the Golden Globes because the Golden Globes nominations would come out before the Oscars and it was informing how those nominations worked. And then they were starting to be like,

we're actually going to announce our nominees before the Golden Globes, like months out. And people were like, what? Just to prove that's not going hand in hand. But I think on some level, there's like a, I guess there's like an internal momentum that brings people to say, you know, like how they're voting. But I mean, it's an industry that's like rife with parties fucking gift bags like you know there's just shit like this all the time to you know create goodwill for a film yeah it's an industry award show you know it's like industry insiders rewarding one another there's like a weird thing this year like i think

a lot of people are calling out this movie to Leslie and like it got, there was this big groundswell on social media of people supporting the lead actress in this movie to Leslie. And it was like Gwyneth Paltrow hosted a screening of the film and like it made $27,000 at the box office. So like nobody saw it, but like all these celebrities suddenly like were on board and like pushing this.

And I know a good friend of mine who is invested in like best actress, the best actress race, like not professionally, but just like cares about that stuff. I was like, yeah, she's actually like great. Like it, you know, it makes sense that she was nominated, but it does feel kind of suspicious. Like there's some

skepticism that a bunch of celebrities all just decided to start supporting their friend and that it wasn't like some sort of push from an agency or, you know, some, you know, some agent or like behind the scenes machination because they want to cast this actress and something in the future or like somebody is tied to her career in some way that makes it beneficial for that to happen. But, you know, yeah, I think there's always interesting stories behind the scenes that don't come out for years on. I will say, I always say that they should be nominating movies from five years ago. And I do think that they completely left Nope out of any of the major categories. Yeah, what's going on with that?

Nope was amazing. Yeah, I think that's going to be one of those things where that's one of the movies we remember from this year and that people still talk about. And like, it's still a Halloween costume like years from now. And, you know, it's but the Oscars miss it because they always miss. Because all these people who are assigned to CAA decided to sing the same from the same hymnal suddenly and be like, Hey man, you hear about this Andrea rise, bro. Oh, she's the next thing you hear about this Tobias Bluth. Like, it's like, what the fuck? Like the rest of the development is just going around being like, Hey, you hear about this guy? Yeah. Yeah. Sounds a little bit like a conspiracy.

I know it's, it's kind of on the nose for me to say stuff like that. I mean, but there's, I mean, look at just even like the celebrity crypto thing there's a sordid web of connections with all that fucking nft garbage that happened and like you're like man it looks like the connective tissue seems to be reese witherspoon's husband right but you know whatever yeah rrr i think also is a movie that people i i my my theory on that one is that they didn't nominate it because they they were afraid they were jealous of how much of a movie it was so they were just like no we can't we can't have people seeing that but we'll we'll see five years from now what what holds up uh i do want to talk real quickly about the razzies because that continues to be like a major headline.

Like this year they nominated movies like Blonde, the Marilyn Monroe biopic, which also on a day Armistice got nominated in best actress category for that. Also Morbius, which, you know, was a bit that people liked to do.

It was a, it was meme. it was fun meme for a little while they also nominated a fucking 12 year old yeah that was fucking that's what what a that's not cool this step you know like that's it's you you're supposed to do it like adults you know what i mean like go after the fucking adults in their own i'm like shit like who is that for is it's just for that like reddit forum where people like hate children because you do ask like well what was the institutional like intent behind ridiculing a 12 year old's performance and first of all they've been doing this for years. They nominated Brooke Shields when she was 13. Macaulay Culkin like three times. Jake Lloyd from Star Wars The Phantom Menace. He was eight! He was eight

at the time. And later revealed that bullying made him. That's traumatic. That's bullying. Yeah. There's not really another word for it, you know? The Razzies are complete garbage for a number of reasons. They published transphobic jokes. They repeatedly referred to Transformers Age of Extinction as Trannies number four. So that was recently. And they thought that was funny funny and worth putting it,

putting out there in a national, like a story that they knew was going to get national attention. But at least they do the thing the Academy won't do, which is nominate more black people. Yeah. That's true. Actor of the year. What the fuck is that? Yeah.

They've given at least 14 acting Razzies to black actors where in the same time 13 black actors have revealed received oscars for their work and in the same time so that's cool they seem to really have it out for black actors which is cool i mean it's like when you look at it all like the hatred of like a boy who was Anakin Skywalker, like racism. You're like, oh, this really is. It's like the internet found a way to give awards basically. Well, so that's exactly what it is. So you, you, you sit back, you're like, all right, what is this? Like bizarro Academy of racist creeps.

And it turns out it's anybody like to vote on the Razzies. You just have to pay for an annual membership online, which starts as low as $40. Oh, my God. And you can also pay $500 and then like try and rope in 25 friends into like joining your voting membership. It's a pyramid thing. Yeah. And then they pay and then they find 25 friends. Well, I'm assuming you're paying for them, at least on that first one.

Right, right, right. But then, yeah, they become your downstream. And the next year they're like, hey, really? The Razzies are wondering if you're going to re-up with me to be part of my Razzies team. We're actually having a get together at my place a little later on. I thought of you because you hate kids and black people. So this is perfect. Yeah.

It's like, where did they get their screeners? Like someone's server where they just watch like. Miles, screeners. There's, it says specifically in the bylaws, there is no requirement to have seen the movie first. Yes. Yes. A time to be alive.

Yes. We win. We win. We win. first yes yes a time to be alive yes we win we win we win holy shit the whole thing started out as a joke by one publicist and his friends during an oscar party which by the way if you know any publicists wolf yeah that that's exactly where the people sort of hellish origin story I would expect from this but then it got picked up by CNN and eventually spread around and for some reason these publications still give this shit oxygen when it clearly

just needs to be killed but like what do you want me to do how much fucking revenue are they that's the thing like they're like man 40 bucks a year though jack what do you want me to do what's that how much fucking revenue are they like that's the thing like they're like man we got a cash cow of fucking internet yeah exactly i mean it's it's the perfect award for our time it's so aggressively stupid and like just zero thought put into it and And yeah, that's about right. It's about right. I like how they, the founder, Maureen Murphy said that they're like, you know, we wouldn't

have, we wouldn't have nominated Shelly Duvall if we knew how hard she had it on the set of The Shining. They nominated Shelly Duvall for her performance in The Shining. Yeah. Like one of the great performances. Wow. Yeah. No, you're dumb as shit.

But like you're, like if you, you know, the fact that they recognized her performance is better than the Academy Awards, I guess. I guess. For the absolute worst reasons. Yeah. So wait, what we're saying then is that we could, you guys and our producers and me and all of us listening at home we could

fucking hack the razzies right for money oh yeah yeah geez that's the way they do it i mean it's like yeah go ahead like you can try and change some shit we get 40 bucks every time i think the most efficient one is to buy five the 500 one because that's 25 votes and the math works out better than buying 25 or dollar memberships so you would have to like do a go fund me or something and then just really drive towards some voting that and now someone who is in the the midst of all this chaotic terrible stuff in the real world in 2023 is like, I'm going to slide my 500 there. You know?

It's very important to me. Starvation, climate change, famine aside. Yeah, let's fix this. Hold on. I'm looking at this. Oh, wow, this art teacher would like new supplies for their classroom. Maybe. Nah, fuck the Razzies.

Fuck that. We're putting Avatar on the board. Also, Babylon appeared nowhere on the Razzies, so I think they made a mistake. They know better than to touch Police Academy, I hope. That's a great point. I wonder if any Police Academies

were nominated for a Razzie. I feel like that's the sort of thing they would go after. No, right? Because they would be jealous that somebody else wrote those jokes because those are the sorts of jokes that they seem to prefer.

Oh, interesting. A part of me just thinks like, nah, that's sacred material, man. Don't talk ill about Police Academy. Razzie's got big for their britches, interesting. A part of me just thinks like, nah, that's sacred material, man. Don't talk ill about Police Academy. You know what I mean? Razzies got big for their britches, gentlemen. Police Academy 4 got called out. Ah!

Which is a shame because it's clearly the culmination of the franchise. Is that Miami Beach? Look, I'm not a doctor of Police Academy. That is, oh, that's Citizens on Patrol. Citizens on Patrol. Yeah yeah with the hot air balloon on the vhs cover yes sir i believe back when we had those cartoonish film covers when can we go back to that i know the house party reboot did it and i was like i like to see that

that style come back police academy five assignment mi Beach. The rare 2 colon, double colon movie title. Police Academy, colon 5. Assignment, colon. Miami Beach. We need the audience to know what they're getting into, guys. Say the producers. Right.

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