The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 261 (Best of 2/6/23-2/10/23)

Episode Date: February 12, 2023

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 261 (2/6/23-2/10/23)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just

starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.

Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Well, you are here for a banger of a guest, because in our third seat, we have one of our favorites, a hilarious stand-up comedian actor writer who's written issues of batman for a little outfit called dc comics and dropped a new stand-up special

called bury me loose a year ago please welcome back to the show the brilliant the talented what's happening i'm back it's me you do, Yedoye, a.k.a. I didn't prepare a bunch of nicknames. I wish you had said something up front before we got to this point, and now I'm embarrassed. Bro, I almost embarrassed myself. That was off the top of the dome. I stumbled a little bit, but we got there. Yeah, I do feel like that's a lofty endeavor to take on off the cuff, you know?

Yeah, yeah. That's a big risk you took. I respect that. Hey, man, I'm here to take risks. the cuff you know yeah yeah that's a big risk you took i respect that hey man i'm here to i'm here to take risks that's what i do yeah sorry my voice cracked when i was shouting your name i apologize that's okay i have that undignified yeah i just get i get nervous you know it's okay that's okay by the way i'm coming to you live from my batman chair you probably can't see it because it's dark as hell but i got the batman desk got batman lighting going on oh yeah yeah i got the little you know i got the the screenshot from into the spider verse behind me yeah we're all black nerded out over here yeah you got a

bisexual lighting situation going oh yeah very purple right now definitely going yeah if batman was in high school. All right. Yeah. I'd love to see it. Are you pitching something? Oh, it's already pitched. Oh, shit. The ball's in your court. Oh, shit.

All right. Let's talk after the recording. Let's go. Are you, is the DC stuff ongoing? Are you still writing Batman stuff? And what was that like? It's ongoing. I just finished my second one end of

last year you know it's one of those things it's cool it's a badge they're out there it's it's a very it's a very exciting thing but you know it uh it also doesn't pay the rent so i'm like you know it's fun it's cool but i'll do another one when i do it let me i might be putting you in the hot seat here but what comic books did you really gravitate towards when you first were coming up in the game i was a manga kid growing up so i was reading like naruto and one piece and all this stuff i actually grew up on like comic book cartoons more than anything i was like watching the the spider-man animated series batman animated series uh x-men that's like what really got me into it and so like yeah it was a little

weirder that they asked me to do this up front because i was like oh i read them but i don't like i'm not a huge nerd like that well how did they find you because i was doing anime videos on youtube got you got you oh wow that's really cool yeah i i also came up similar the the x-men cartoon the uh mask of the phantasm batman film i probably wore that copy out yeah a lot of that i wasn't super into the comics um that was more of my sister's bag but yeah now that i see they're coming back with the james gunn slate of the that brave and the bold title in there that really got me excited because you know the for you know the comic book nerds out there you guys are familiar that brave and the bold title

coming from the the silver age and golden age of of comics is really hearkening back to like the foundation of comics and i kind of i'm missing that with you know the popcorn flicks and and marvel and you know i i kind of i kind of enjoy that but i want to get back to the roots of like you know not just the entertainment factor but the philosophy of comics yeah yeah i mean bro i just i feel like like a lot of people i'm living the life that i wanted to live as a teenager right now you know while we're still semi in a pandemic and i'm just i torrented a bunch like the entire x-men batman catalog just all of these things i wanted to read my whole life torrented very legally obviously you know yeah you know for the law purposes above

yeah i'm just like finally getting to to like a baseline level of knowledge that i wish i had my whole life that i felt like i didn't have access to right you know i feel like there's a bunch of nerds that grew up that like didn't have access to the shit that they liked yeah i was i was just gonna say there's so many people it's hard to keep up now especially as a nerd now i mean it's the you go online there's so many takes i i can't keep up people are bringing up you know superheroes like oh i've been a fan of this guy for 30 years i'm like i never heard of this dude in my life the research is intense nowadays for sure yeah you know it's one of the craziest uh imbalances of power is like going out as someone who's now

written batman and i like my my view on batman is like, dude is a fascist. He's a whole fascist. He's a cop. I think that's very obvious. And it's, and it's hard to write for, for him and sort of think about the themes of it rather than like diving into this brooding character and like romanticizing him and then like going out and tweeting stuff like that and getting responses from people that I know have read more of the comics than me but they still think like no he's not a he's not a cop what are you talking about he doesn't know he doesn't and so i can't like argue with them right but even though i know the real world politics more than they do right yeah but they know that they know the fake world politics more it's so like it's such a bizarre batman asks the question

what if there was a cop that was competent didn't fuck up every single time that he tried to do his job i mean he fucks up he fucks up a lot yeah i guess a lot yeah he's recidivism rate of batman is through the roof yeah it's ridiculous yeah everybody's just right back he also uh kidnaps children and puts them in harm's way like all the time so you know yeah that's not super fun either that's a good yeah there's a deep deep a deep commentary about batman that is not even getting touched on. Yeah, right. What if there was a cop who was like all the other cops, except he dressed as a bat? That's the question about Batman. Yeah.

Yeah. What is something from your search history? I was looking up, I looked through them, and the only appropriate thing to talk about is, I was looking for Beyonce tickets. Ah. Yes. I can't do it. I'm out.

I'm out for a concert. Jack, when was the last time you went to a concert? The last time I went to a concert was, it might have been the Jay-Z Beyonce show. Jeez, God damn. Wow. Yeah. That was a minute. How about you, Dan?

How about you? I went and saw the lovely Carly Rae Jepsen at the Greek Theater not too long ago. I think it was about a month and a half. Oh, that's great. I love that. It was lovely. It was fun. I am completely prepared to cash out.

I lost my shit during the Taylor Swift uproar. I'm a huge Taylor Swift fan. And I tried to get in the front. I've seen her three times. The shows are always amazing. I got kicked out of the Capital One, like, pre-sale thing, and then I just quickly looked at the things, and I looked at my wife, and I just went to StubHub, and I bought nosebleed seats for $400 each. Wow. Yes, and it's something I'm proud of.

Your listeners may not know this, but I'm an older Latino man. I, you know, I bartend in Covina. I've got to face working class Filipino and Mexican men all the time and tell them the same stories. Hell yeah. It's wildly embarrassing. But I looked at my beautiful white wife in the face and her and I have never been to a Taylor Swift concert together. And I told her this is the last time we're doing anything like this. Forget it. There's no more concerts after this. And I pay for that. I looked at Beyonce. It's the very exact same thing. You could tell everything you're getting access to pre-sales and all this kind of shit. And I am

simply out. There is nothing that you can experience. I think at a Beyonce concert where it's going to cost you a thousand dollars, $1,200, $1,500. It's just not ever going to be worth it. That's how I feel about it. And I love Beyonce. Yeah, I do too. It really seems like the whole, I mean, it is a industry that is controlled by a monopoly. And I feel like that's fucking it up for everyone.

Right? Yeah. That just feels like it's really made, put a sour taste in people's mouth. Yeah, I can't do it anymore. So I don't know what the future is for the concert industry, but it does bum me out not to see the queen, you know, holding hands with my beloved, you know,

looking into her eyes, singing songs from Lemonade, you know, cheating songs. Songs about cheating. This one's our song, honey. eyes, singing songs from Lemonade, you know, cheating songs. Yeah. Songs about cheating. This one's our song, honey. Why are you so into this? She's just looking at me, crying, weeping slowly. I'll never forget when Lemonade came out.

It was on HBO Max for like three hours. I don't know if you guys remember this. And I had Chatterbox, my Sunday night show in Covina that I was going to go to. I had an hour to take a nap. I was like, let me just start this thing. And I was like so taken aback. I did cry for sure. But I just took in the whole thing.

And I was so deeply moved. Just thinking about Jay-Z cheating on Beyonce. Yeah. Yeah. He fucked up. yeah he fucked up i mean the best thing to come out of all that is that the to find out the reason why uh solange pushed him in the elevator was beating on him is like the coolest thing i've ever seen that we have on tape to have beyonce's sister beating up jay- for cheating on her. How cool is this? It's great.

I feel like that would have been a lot of people's responses to hearing that he cheated on Beyonce. Like, it didn't need to be her sister. Like, I feel like if his homie had found out, he was like, what? Are you fucking stupid? What are you doing? Yeah. So you are going. You will be there.

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. You're not going. Okay. No. Good for you there. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. You're not going. Okay. No. Good for you. I will not. I will.

I probably will like the day or two of. If there's something, I hate what I'm about to tell you, but it's sad. Everything's gotten so expensive. I have money, okay? I'm not rich or anything, but I'm a wildly successful neighborhood bartender. I get a few commercials a year, so that's like a windfall of money. I don't have to worry about money. I'm very grateful for that like that. But, you know,

I do the grocery shopping in the family. A sandwich. Now, if you go somewhere to pick up, a sandwich is $20 at the door. I'm just feeling taken advantage of, okay? I'm starting to feel like this is too much now granted i'm

getting older so i wonder if everyone just feels this way if we're just not if the thing is to just talk about money like this but i can't yeah it's the inflation yeah it's simply like they just raise the prices on everything and there's nothing to stop them from from doing that and they call it inflation but it's really just corporations realizing that they face no consequences if they just charge more money all they face is more money which is good like that that gives them their friends during their earnings calls think they call them geniuses for doing that shit so it's you know i know there's more complicated dynamics involved,

but that seems to be the main one as far as I can tell. And sandwich inflation. Yeah. They're making us pay $20 for a smaller sandwich, which is infuriating. I'm telling you, we went to a place, and I don't want to call it out anyway. It was a fine sandwich. It was even very tasty, but we spent $50 the other day. This is like just walking out with the things. And, you know, hey, well, you know, well, how lucky were we to we spent $50 the other day. This is like just walking out with the things.

Hey, how lucky were we to spend the $50? That's all I got to say. This is what happens when you're a wildly successful and able-hearted bartender, guys. I have helped build that bar for 15, 16 years now. What's something you think

is overrated? I put a list. It's either harry styles finding nemo or once y'all were talking all zombie content so y'all could pick which one okay i i want to hear about all but i mean harry styles i think is pretty i i think we get that one right i i i am had no beef i want to be clear that that young man has never crossed my mind in my entire black ass life. Not one time had I thought about Harry Styles, but it only took a few nights ago for him to become my number one enemy. I have to now retroactively go back and hate because I listen.

I disrespect. Yo, I'm not even get started. The kind of beehive member I am. I'm surprised y'all ain't hearing me hit the ground from like oh no okay listen when listen i knew the minute trevor noah because he knew better i wouldn't know we're not talking about that enough but let's respect how much trevor noah knew the black community was not gonna let him say something that wasn't beyonce so the minute he walked over to that white woman to ask her to say it i was like oh oh, no. I didn't see it, but that's an amazing move by him to be like, you want to take this one? Literally. He walked up and he was like, hey, you want to say this in a minute? And I was like, what's going on?

What's going on? What's going on? I was like, I'm going to go over to an old white lady. And I, you know what? You know what's crazy? I was prepared a little bit. Like, if they had said bad bunny, I want you to understand, I would be talking shit. Like, not the same way, but in my home, I'd be talking would be talking shit like not not the same way but in my home i'd be talking mad shit but not online in the same way because i would understand

i can't intellectually defend it from the same position i get it global impact undeniable yes yes highest grossing tool i can't deny these stats but harry styles it's yeah it's just such an industry award where it's just like the music industry award rewarding itself. And like the people that they want to be like, we look what we built. And when my man said, did you have a speech? He said, he said, he said, this don't happen to people like me. Incredible. He said that. And I was like, if I jump through this computer and tackle this child, I am curious.

I was like, I know you not saying that. Look at Beyonce and her black ass face. It's like literally every phrase of that sentence needs to be interrogated. What do you mean by things like this? They were trying to defend that, you know.

They're like, oh, he means because he was poor. I was like, oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. never been a poor white guy. You showed it. Get it out the mud, Harry. Okay. So him, I'm now officially a Harry Styles hater. Finding Nemo, you're out on.

Yeah, 100%. I've been a Finding Nemo hater since day one, as a child. It was one of the first movies. It wasn't the first time I walked out of a theater. That was Osmosis Jones. I like that you're a young person just walking out of movies. Listen, upset, you know.

I remember I was trapped. I would have walked out. What happened was, you know, I have five siblings, so my parents, you know, they were tired of us, so they sent us to the movie theater all day. They thought it was like a full set of tickets.

It was like Lilo and Stitch, Finding Nemo, all these things were out. So get to finding nemo and i'm like what is this incredibly stressful movie and i have felt that way every day that is the most stressful film it's so dark the way it opens holy shit like the anxiety is not flared up i'm like okay so his mama dead he's disabled his daddy is a single daddy struggling. His daddy, he don't listen. First and foremost, I never liked his little ass. Right. Don't listen.

I can't stand him. His daddy gave that man one instruction. No, don't go there. Don't go there. He can go tapping his little one fin up there. Now your daddy has to be stressed out for the entire film. Because now you stuck in a pet shop. And your daddy's only, out for the entire film because now you're stuck in a pet shop and your daddy's only what do they give him as

a companion as comic relief a fish with dementia I've never Dory breaks my that is the most stressful and you know what upset me this is what I don't like about the gaslighting the Pixar who I was responsible because I'm like how is

this not incredibly depressing and tragic to people why does nobody but me see this they love dory like this is cute i'm like you all not stressed out it's not sad but then they had the nerve to come up with finding dory and i never i didn't finish it because i didn't make it past the first five ten minutes it's admirable you put it on honestly even try even starting it shows you're a big person so terribly traumatic sad backstory to explain why fish has dementia almost like you know it's tragic and sad why am i watching this why am i watching this so finding nemo and terrible i don't know why people like that i don't know if people are sick it's not even like a musical i don't even

understand it like i don't understand why my generation cl. I don't know if people are sick. It's not even like a musical. I don't even understand it. I don't understand why my generation clung to it the way they did. It's not like Lion King and all these other people have soundtracks, the Little Mermaid soundtracks. Finding Nemo has nothing but a lost fish, a single daddy, and a fish with dementia.

I feel like if Pixar has a whiteboard that's just like a pool going for who can get the most depressing shit into a children's movie. Yeah. Just whimsy. And they're just ramping it up each time. Y'all see it up.

Y'all see it up then. I just saw the opening thing. And I was like, yeah, the opening where up, where he loses his wife. Him and his wife are together in love. They can have kids.

They can have kids. Yeah. You like cry three different times. Yeah. They can have kids. Yeah, you like cry three different times in the first five minutes. I'm like, why is this like this? Yeah, so that. And then all zombie content. I'm saying for the same reasons. I don't understand the appeal.

Vampires, I get. Werewolves, less so. Mermaids make sense. Zombies? What about dead, decaying people doing feet? Why do you want to see a bunch of maceris walking around the place what is this movie y'all like i don't i will say the one thing that i i finally watched uh the last of us show this weekend and what i will say is it is actually really mercifully light on actual zombies on the screen that thing i was like oh

this is it's like it better than the game which is just like all fucking zombies on the screen that thing i was like oh this is it's like it better than the game which is just like all fucking zombies all the time not all but it's like it's good in that regard but then in the same vein i think that's the whole point i think that's the whole point of zombie content is it's not the zombies it is an excuse like they are the most unobtrusive easy to evade like yeah monster but the whole thing is that society has crumbled and people are like dying to live in a world where society is crumbled and so and i also to keep coming up with zombie content after covid is crazy people would kill themselves we won't even people don't want to wear masks. You think people was doing combat out here and fighting the surviving zombies.

What do you even, what do you even fight? Why do you want to do this? You want to be in a zombie world? The minute they tell me, if they come and tell me there's zombies running the streets and the zombies looking for you, I'm just going to,

I'm just going to end it. I'm going to take myself out the game. I'm not, I'm not letting zombies. What? And I got to be around here. And also I don't out the game. I'm not letting zombies what? And now I got to be around here. And also, I don't like the way the zombies have to work. Why in everything zombie related? No, for real. Why

zombies don't ever be dead zombies and just be chilling? Why do zombies have to be like working for the night, the walking dead? You know what I'm saying? Why is it like that? Why are they trying to recruit? They don't even have an agenda. What's the purpose? What do they do?

Just hungry. The dating apps have started to do dumb shit like making you answer quirky questions. My favorite one that I've ever personally answered is what is your zombie apocalypse plan? My plan is to keep eating people's brains until someone kills me.

You would be a zombie. I'd be a zombie right away i'm zombie from day one i'm like even before you got bit yeah i'm not even the one getting bit i'm like yeah i'll try that that fucking join the winner whatever yeah y'all will go be a zombie not me i would i would honestly i would probably engage in mass destruction like no, no, honestly, I would. Yeah, well, I think that's what's so funny about it. That's what people like. Yeah. That's, people like the, yeah.

I didn't see Zombieland, but I feel like there's a part in that movie where they're, like, riding dirt bikes through the White House or some shit. Like, it's, that's, that's the dream that people have is just, like, society falling down, no longer having to go to your job and like the whole idea that it's easier from zombies yeah but the the idea that it's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism i feel like it's yeah that's the only version of a world without capitalism that people can imagine. So they just go with that. They're like, this is better than the soul-sucking, you know, soul-withering day-to-day grind. The more you talk, the more convinced I am

that God needs to send a flood. Like, I'm listening and I'm like, well, this is where we're at. It's grim out there. I think it's also like a version of capitalism people can comprehend, which I think it's like, it's just like when your only job is to like run from these dudes and like get enough calories to survive one more day. And that's it. Right.

Like people can understand that competition. Oh, of course. Yes. Don't get me wrong. Yesterday I was getting in my Uber and I realized I left my key upstairs and I had to run up the stairs fast to get my key and run back down. And I was in the Uber fighting for my life, like trying to breathe, like stressed out. I was like, this isn't how life is supposed to be. Me being rushed like this, this little run with a lot on me.

You're talking everyday obstacle course zombies. Zombies that are expanding their army and getting faster every day. People that want zombie apocalypse are like CrossFit people. They're just like, this would be fun. I could do a lot of pull-ups. I think it's just the idea of a walkable city. Like a walkable suburbs is so

outlandish to people that that's what they need to invent to make it possible. They're just like, man, could you imagine just being able to walk down the middle of the street? That would be amazing. It's like, man, that was imagine just being able to walk down the middle of the street? That would be amazing. It's like, man, that was 70 years ago. People could do that. Oh, God, that's so depressing.

What is something you think is underrated, Gabrus? What's underrated is just smoking flour, just smoking grass, smoking actual weed, no infusions, no diamonds, no no th and i i'm a fan of all that shit but there's something pure about just having a montepulciano versus like a 12 different ingredient cocktail like the idea of like someone put the energy into growing this flower and to making a top shelf and then you grind it concentrate it slip it flap it fuck it jam it into something you know a banana flavored fucking uh paper or whatever all that jazz that happens all fun and games but i think i've i think one part i'm saying this is because i've fucking blown my tolerance out my asshole i can like can't afford to be a stoner anymore and there's

something like i got into weed because it was like, it's natural, man. And now I'm smoking like this is the distillation. And it's like I'm getting a little outside of natural now. I get a little more sciencey. It's not this is not the weed that whenever you talk about like Willie Nelson smokes weed and is still like lived forever. It's like he's not smoking like 12 different infusions on top and like and so in my head it's i i've been trying to do that with food too you know going back to more like whole foods like the the thing you're eating the ingredient is the name of

it like oh i'm having chicken what's in it it's chicken yeah chicken going back to that vibe. Yeah, with grass for myself. Look, I haven't gotten high in maybe two years. However, I will say. Not while you're pumping. What's your problem? No. No. God, it's. Well, also, yeah, my partner's sober.

My partner, we'll talk about that later, is sober. And so I just don't want to be the only one high, you know, in the house. Unless, you know, when the baby can get high, then we won't hang. But I love flowers. There's no high like just good flowers. That's it. I am so convinced of this fact. Well, the fucking shatter and what's the other one?

The dabs and all the things that get you too high. I'm someone who doesn't have a high tolerance. But two or three hits of really good flower. And I'm not talking about vaping. And I'm someone who doesn't have a high tolerance, but two or three hits of really good flour, and I'm not talking about vaping, and I'm not talking about, I mean, yeah, I'll smoke not a split. I don't want it with tobacco, but just straight flour.

It's so beautiful. It's just perfect. It's the perfect fucking high. Yeah. I am sober, but when I was smoking weed, I don't think any of those things existed. And the flower would get me way too high. I'd really feel like, oh my God, everyone hates me?

Well, that wasn't the flower. That was your personality. Yeah, that's just my bad personality. Exactly. I wouldn't blame the weed for that, Jack. Come on. Yeah. It wasn't just in my head. Everyone was like, man, that guy sucks. Sometimes you are right. Sometimes, yeah. But yeah, I feel like Willie Nelson was smoking some shit that was like grown on a farm in

Kentucky that was defended by those sharp sticks with poop on them. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like that. Just like the real old school shit. A mo poop on them. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like that. Just like the real old school shit. A moat of goats. Yeah. Well, like you, like when I went to like New Zealand for a few weeks once with my wife

and like nothing is labeled organic there. And like a Kiwi was like, told us, it's like, oh, nothing's organic. Everything's organic. So we don't have to write it. And it's just like, oh, it's a get oh, nothing's organic. Everything's organic, so we don't have to write it. And it's just like, oh, it's a possible world where it's like, oh, the default is the safest

way that everything is grown and processed and shit. Right. The kiwi, wait, was it a fruit kiwi or a person kiwi? It was a fruit kiwi that was talking to me, but they were from New Zealand, so technically it was a kiwi kiwi. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a delicacy there to like get something that's like grown in it. Like the American version. Like they're uber wealthy or like have a section of the. They're like, these are from farm cows. They're depressed and the meat is bad.

And it's like, ooh, just like the American. It's like eating like foie gras. It's like the animal was treated so poorly, the food tastes better. Oh, yum. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing

for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members and others whose lives and careers have been impacted just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.

Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.

I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.

From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?

And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila

caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved.

You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And the media, like, I'm mostly observing this through headlines that I just, like, see shuffling across the New York Times, Drudge Report, CNN. There's always, like, an update on, like, no classified documents in Biden's beach house last week.

And now they're looking for classified documents in Pence's. And I haven't given a shit about this story, like from the start. And at first I was like, and that's because I'm anti-Trump. And like, you know, I was like critical of myself for not giving a shit about it. But it's just like, I don't know. I couldn't be less concerned that Joe Biden is like hoarding documents to sell them to other countries, like because he's like trying to make money off of being the president. Like that's what we were interested in from Trump. And that does sound like some shit Trump would do. Joe Biden is not that cool. Like he's not doing that shit. He's not that interesting. He he is doing this by accident. It doesn't matter. It's just a talking point for Fox News to be like, well, what about this? But I feel like

the mainstream media just, I don't know, they have this logic puzzle in their brain where they're like, well, if president also has documents he's not supposed to, then other president who did it gets away free. And it's just I don't know. It's nonsense. I think it's kind of like an inertia machine to once you have like a headline that, you know, whoever's running the website or producing the show and they're seeing like, oh, ratings go up when we mention this thing. We didn't expect the documents situation to go where it went with trump we expected it to be like a one-day story then it's like oh hey here's some more oh hey here whoa this is looking nefarious this is looking weird you know and they're like

oh shit president biden oh shit and it just becomes more of like a like oh well this story got mentioned and it gets headlined so now here's another thing we'll just bridge these two things together and here you go here's another story for tomorrow it's so lazy yeah now here's another thing. We'll just bridge these two things together. And here you go. Here's another story for tomorrow. It's so lazy. Yeah. I just don't understand what the president can do with classified documents at home that he wouldn't just do at the office. Like he's not Naruto.

Yeah. I'm picturing him just reading Ninja Scrolls and doing the same jutsu for 500 episodes. But beyond that, I don't know. I don't understand what what the concern is and how much of this is just old men having poor record keeping like i just i don't where's what's the story here i just don't give a fuck the trump one is intriguing that's different is vaguely because they were like hey you have these documents he's like i do they're like give them back and he was like fuck you uh and then he was like, fuck you.

And then he was like, I was like, I don't, I don't have those documents. And then they were like, Hey man, we're here. Like,

look, the documents are right there. You were holding them. That, that was weird. And he's the type of person, he does have like nefarious relations with like the Saudis and all, all sorts of wild shit. So like, it's just, it's another one of these things

where you're like trying to pretend that Trump is like other presidents. And it's just like, that's not, that's never gonna be the case. I mean, bro, I got a framed magazine cover I stole from the vice offices in 2018. Is that bad? No?

Should I give that bad? I don't understand, Like, what's the problem? They canceled the show. Yeah. So now the way these searches are being conducted is like they're confirming what the person, the person's like, okay, come on in. I think Pence might actually plant documents so that people think he's more interesting because like he's so whack like the the idea that they're searching and pence is just like so sad yeah there's no way this motherfucker's up to anything or is like not so careful that he would actually do it but like i feel like to like get the pop and to get the headline, I think Pence might like plant some documents. They're just like, hey man, these are from JSTOR.

What is this? These are like research papers. These are available. Yeah. All right. On the subject of kind of relearning stuff, scientists believe they've just discovered the secret to Rome's self-healing concrete, which I didn't really know that's what was going on with Rome's concrete. I did know that there

was like a recipe that Rome had figured out and that we like that just got lost. Yeah. Like, oh man, we should have, should have hung on to that to that one but yeah it's always interesting to me to be reminded that like we forget shit all the time like we lose books to history we lose important secrets recipes yeah it's something with limestone right some like crazy yeah recipe situation yeah it's like hot lot like hot lime uh seems to be which i think that's also just like a flavor of tostito but like i think it's like hot like yeah it's something that like interacts with it in a way that like creates heat and that like they thought that what they were seeing was like an error and and they were like there's all these like white chunks throughout

the thing i guess they didn't mix it well enough and right it turns out that was like the signature that they should have been using to be like oh no they were really on to something and when this shit cracks and that like all you need to do is get it wet and it reforms. Right. We lost so much cool shit to history. Like, we don't even know about. Like, wasn't there like a birth control plant or something that existed around the time as well that went completely extinct? And like, what was that? Some like flamethrower technology or some shit that they had?

Yeah, grease. Grease fire. Yeah. Greek fire. Yeah. Yeah. Just, I mean, I constantly wonder how much cool shit. Because this stuff is equivalent to what we're,

I mean, maybe even more technologically advanced than what we're dealing with today. And I think we kind of have a bias of like, if it's old, it's not worth it. But this is fascinating. It's like, okay, so we got this cool technology. And I see, I understand that it's cool and practical and all this stuff,

but what we could do is let the mafia infiltrate all the workers unions and we can just build infrastructure that's destined to crumble in like two to five years. And, you know, we just stimulate the economy by having these people. Exactly, that's what, I think that's really it though. I do, i like even

like without the mafia like you sell more concrete if the shit you know like you sell more iphones if they break after a couple years like after the fourth update like with that phone like i i think and also like i didn't realize so making concrete accounts for 7% of global emissions, and concrete is the most consumed material on Earth, second only to water. Yeah, I read or watched or something very recently that we could cut down 95% of all production and consumption and have plenty for everybody. Everybody in the world. Right. But we don't want to. But we don't want to.

It's not creating jobs, you know it. We're not creating jobs, and that's what's most important. You gotta create jobs that don't meet anyone's needs. And don't pay very well either. You need three or four of them just to live, but you know what? Keep busy. Yeah, we gotta them busy so that they have to work so that they never stop for a

moment and be like, wait a fucking second here. We got to deify the state. We have to deify the state. That's what it's all about. Everybody. Yeah. I really do think it's important. Like my understanding,

even the fact that they've known that there was this better form of concrete and they just like haven't been able to like figure it out completely blows up my understanding of like our scientific capabilities which admittedly is driven mostly by movies like face off and iron man but like you know i just assume you take a little chunk of the roman concrete and you put it in like a little machine you analyze it yeah like a microwave looking matter analyzer and it's like it is this and this and this and then you're like boom i mean it's like you said they just thought they didn't mix it well and they never tried to like just do it that way yeah right it's just like recreate this

yeah i don't know man i think that's some military industrial complex shit because you know all science is for the military and whatnot like you mentioned iron man every like every couple years i feel like the biggest science news is they're making a real iron man suit and nobody is like for who yeah not one time is that have i seen an article that's like for who who is that for yeah they're making they're making gundams though they're making real gundams they did uh the the last like boston scientific robot that they showed everybody like it they the way they the context they put it in was a construction site but it was like it's like massively powerful bipedal robot that was like that like came from a sitting position

like leapt to its feet did a backflip like threw this massive like bag of weight onto this platform over its head leapt onto the platform and it's like we built a gazebo in 20 minutes like that's not what that was for come on you don't need that for the fucking construction site like that like what is that killing like having going through a you know obstacle course with machine guns or something if you like just be honest about what you're building this shit for right like what and even even when it comes to this concrete shit i think they're gonna like even if they figure it out like 100 the way you know we're gonna get the watered down version of that it's not gonna heal itself they're gonna make it so you have to replace it even more you know how they give us the cheap shit where it doesn't

work right right yeah right they uh they got the police dogs already uh the little black mirror police dogs out there. And I've seen people push those over. Right. You know, they're very vulnerable. That's the thing. That's what I was saying about, like, so I had a big thing, like, earlier, like, a few weeks back where I was talking about how amazing. Like, somebody figured out something about the second bounce in the human gait.

Like, the human, like the the human like how we walk is this incredibly complex thing that like defied scientific understanding for a while and i was making fun of all the robots that they've tried to make walk on two feet and like they just always seem like they're not good at that and so somebody sent me this video of the new Boston Scientific construction killer robot to like just prove it. But yeah, I feel like when you get them in the field and it's like not, you can't program it so that like they know where everything is. And, you know, it's like the Tesla self--driving car unless they've like scanned the course and

like cleared it ahead of time you know but there might be a banana peel and in in its path right upends everything think about all all of that and they they figured out how to make the titties bounce in dead or alive in like 2002 but we're still but we're still stuck on walking yeah it shows you where where our priorities are as a nation you know i mean that's right i put the second hitch in my step to avoid creasing my my jordans i think i think yeah that's what i yeah by the way you know your great jordans and your uh special yes oh hey thank you those are what kind did you wear uh the blue the greats oh fuck yeah i got a pair of those upstairs the ones yeah a lot of people shit on mids but those are fire yeah no i'm i'm a big fan of those they were

actually uh they were stolen when i was in oakland on tour for real but you know i had a good run with them yeah there you go never got them creased before beforehand yeah the problem with those is the suede you know the the colors like the crease on. You know, we don't have to get into all that. But they do turn greenish. Yeah. Yes, they do. Yeah. All right. And then there's and the last week Labor Department announced a surge in new jobs. Biden is taking credit for the job boom, arguing that it's now crystal clear that his economic package was rock solid. But a rock solid package from Biden. Okay. That's right.

Yeah. He's virile. But it was actually led by bars and restaurants opening back up after the vacancies sparked by the pandemic. And there's also a vast downward trend in technology, finance, and manufacturing firms are laying off workers, and then like leisure and hospitality is adding jobs. So that's what we're seeing, but like the quality of jobs is going down, but there's just like more of them. The quality of life you can live with between like the tech job and the leisure and hospitality jobs is like the it's a shame that again this goes back

to our point earlier they seems like just there's an active push to just preserve jobs that will grind you into dust so you have absolutely no time to think you might need to have two, three, four of them just to make it by. And I truly do think we've brought this up a number of times on, on the podcast, but I think they really do not want to have what happened in 2020 happen again. And it seems to be in the system incentivizes, you know, this, this immune system you bring up a lot, Jack of like, just, there's like a sentient capitalistic organism that just wants to preserve the jobs and the things that are going to grind us down to the point where we just cannot think. Yeah. Make the most money. It doesn't matter if it's make the most money for the most people. It's just make the most money. So the most money needs to be

changing hands. Like that's what the system is designed to, you know, drive towards, grow towards and then protect once it once it has it. Yeah, I can't. I don't remember who the specific example is, but I feel like there's been a big spike in people kind of going mask off with that rhetoric and explicitly saying this is a time we need to punish the working force and whatnot. this is a time we need to punish the working force and whatnot. And we need to limit the power of the, the buying power of the working class and all of these things. I mean, I feel like they're being a lot more explicit about it because people are stuck in this mindset that there's no alternative to capitalism, even though we have this critique of it,

which is why I, which is why I talk about Doomer shit up top. Yeah. I think people are so stuck in that mindset that this is the way it has to be. Right. And, you know, there are obviously barriers to finding our way out, but there are barriers to just being in it as is. So, you know, why not give it a shot?

It already is uncomfortable. So we need, yeah, it's's it really is impossible for like that. There's this I forget who said it, but it's that it's easier to picture the end of the world than it is to picture the end of capitalism. Because we're like capitalism is so thoroughly, you know, ingrained in not only our society, but like just in everyone's mindset. know ingrained in not only our society but like just in everyone's mindset so so like it's either like a modern day world like where that a movie takes place in or it's like the apocalypse it's just like you know everything has fallen apart they nobody can imagine some alternative where it's just like no things are things are actually better here yeah i mean i do know who said this that uh capitalism seems inescapable but so did the divine right of kings that was ursula just like, no, things are actually better here. Yeah. I mean, I do know who said this, that capitalism

seems inescapable, but so did the divine right of kings. That was Ursula Le Guin. You know? Yeah. And that's real as fuck. That is real as fuck. I feel like there is a way out. Margaret Thatcher only said that shit in the 80s. You know? That's not that long ago. You know?

I don't know, dog. They said I couldn't write on the Garfield reboot. And I feel like, what do we need a Garfield reboot for? There's another way. Exactly. There's another way. Let's take a quick break. And we'll come back and talk about balloons and other fun things.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine.

Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way

we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas

be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance.

It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring.

This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. And yeah, in the context of the conversation we were just having, the Super Bowl, and in the context of like just everything, the state of professional football, where people die, get injured, you know, die on the field and are brought back to life.

And then everyone's like, oh, we're good. Because when he woke up, he asked if his team won. And then, like, the other big draw of the Super Bowl is the ads. It's so humbling. It's so dark. Like, we're cheering for commercials. Yeah. We're, like, so excited to be sold stuff.

It's, like, we're all like yeah super bowl is just a big clusterfuck tag sale and we're like and i have 40 people over my house to watch it every year it's like holy shit it is so such a dark crystallization uh and it came from like a good place where it's like peak competition we you know this is good for us and get some steam blow some steam off we don't have to fight each other in the streets because we could say fuck philly or whatever but now now it's become so fucking crazy people are people are like literally dying not to mention like the fucking butterfly effect of what happens to players post playing in the nfl but like we are

still going ahead with this like uh oh yeah we we we take our shoes off to get on planes because like i know that's someone something people say all the time because one time a guy like had a shoe bomb on now one time not just one, people have died playing football or paralyzed, and we have not changed. We go, all right, we ask them if they're concussed now, and we make them wait seven days before they sacrifice their body for us again. And any instance like this, because they activate the money right wing people who are like, football players make a fortune. They can fucking deal with whatever and it's like football players make good money but it pales in comparison to owners people who sell the ads like the people who build the stadiums the people like all that shit is where the real money is yes if a player is making 10 million if a team is willing to make pay a player 10 million dollars imagine how

much money they get from that like when you hear the friends all the friends cast all got paid a million dollars an episode while i guarantee nbc was making way more than six million dollars an episode shocking amounts of money right no one will lose money like no executive will choose you just can't but the idea that it's like if if this quarterback's getting paid 20 million dollars we need to make at least 21 million dollars to say so ticket prices go up advertising sales go through the roof everyone's got fucking gillette on their helmet or whatever you know what i mean like the shit is we bury ourselves like we put ourselves in the hole to begin with sorry this is just coming from a guy

who was like 11 super bowl boxes and i'm fingers crossed something happens for me and i can finally afford cobra health insurance this year no i think that's a really good point i mean i appreciate it just because my analysis of football is effectively that just like i tried to watch try to watch the niners eagles game because i'm from the Bay, and I turned it on for a second and was like, oh, wait, I fucking hate football because it's just ads. I can't deal with this. I would like to just see the plays. I don't want to see the ads. And also, it's insanely violent. I mean, football, it's not going to end. It's only going to get worse and worse and worse until you're like, oh, it turns out there was like, you know, like like some kind of, I don't know, fucking underground ring of

trading cheerleaders or some shit like something disgusting. Oh, keep going. Like because, you know, you've got so much yellow king shit like from True Detective Carcosa. We went to we went to Jerry Jones' ranch and things got awful. Yeah, yeah. You know, we juice on like baby toes or something. Like, I don't know, what is it going to be?

But it'll keep on going and going and going. Goodell will be there the whole fucking time. He's still going to be there. Yeah, Goodell not going anywhere. But I do think you could. Two suggestions on how to change football. One, bring back the two-touch. Not bring back.

Start the two-touch tag football. Two-hand touch? Yeah. Two-hand touch. They did that at the Pro Bowl, actually. They did flag football. And the players were like, that was actually really fun. Really?

I didn't feel like I was going to die. Yeah. Yeah, they did something with two hand touches and like that yeah that that is absurdly difficult and requires a lot of athletic grace to be able to like get the get the flags off people and then the other is just you know seize the means of production democratize the entire thing and have players have buy-in and not yeah they own it they will own the nfl yeah bring a fucking players should get revenue share and that will motivate them to play better than anything else if players get revenue share and residents get revenue share of like tickets or it brings money into your city that like the metlife stadium

is sold out or whatever if it helps at all that we we only have to stay in the community yeah we don't have it can't just keep going to guys who don't even live anywhere millionaires billionaires who was like yeah i sold the naming rights to this stadium and now your fandom has to stand in a stadium named for fucking health insurance company the fucked up thing is the fucked up thing is that those are taxpayer funded in a lot of cases like building projects we pay for and then they take that and and charge you 120 dollars to park fucking six miles away and yeah the entire system is just like, built to siphon money upwards. I pray that, like, in, like, 50 years, we're talking about football and cars the way we think about smoking and drinking and driving. Oh, God. You know what I mean?

I really hope that, like, 50 years from now, people are like, can you believe we were doing that? Like, oh, how many people were paralyzed? If you were to take a bet in 50 years, what goes first, football or cars? It's hard. I honestly believe they're, like, weirdly tied. They're, like, intrinsically tied together. That's like heart and lungs of the American body, you know? I don't fully know.

I can't imagine a world. I think football can go first because cars are too individualistic and like anything that's like can you stop doing this thing there are a non-zero number of people who will do it more just because they were asked to not do it right like the amount of people i know personally who said i'm not taking the vaccine you know me trying to tell me to do something i ain't gonna do that shit the amount of people i i have like six people i can count that didn't get vaccinated because someone said they should that's insane i agree with disagreeing i agree with disagreeing i agree with disagreeing on fucking someone telling you what to do but i don't think like you should be like no i'm not

gonna wear a seat belt because you want me to bitch this country is about it's about tricking us into having solidarity with one another it's like tricking us into thinking yes we're doing the individualistic thing right but actually we're just helping each other right briefly on just a rundown of the there there will be no crypto ads. All the crypto companies pulled out, which was like that was the big feature of last year's Super Bowl was that like it was all crypto and people like this is the new normal. This is get ready for the era of crypto. And then everybody got so drastically fucked over by that. Again, it was just it was what we were talking about, the upward siphoning of people's money, but just without any product around it to like disguise what was happening. So it's just like, hey, give us all your money. Hey, that money's not here anymore. And yeah, so that didn't have a long shelf life. And those are those ads are all gone. Do you guys remember the QR code that was just bouncing around for like three

minutes? $14 million they spent to put that QR code up. The, there was the Larry David one for which he, he has been sued or is being sued. Matt Damon coming out, telling us like he got roasted for that. Like,

yeah. Read the fucking room. People like, yeah yeah like fortune favors the brave and the brave thing to do is give me all your money and there's so much shit at play that angers me in this and so i'm just going to rattle off some of some of the things that drive me crazy first of all we know we were just talking about how everything in america is like how much money you have obviously and that's because if you don't have money, you're more likely to die. Money, unfortunately, equals staying alive in this country.

So you're a person with a couple of G's. And Matt Damon says, hey, give me a couple of G's and you should be able to take out 10 G's in a little while. And someone goes, that's amazing. I could stay alive longer if that works. Now, Matt Damon is taking this ad. He's getting a huge payday. He is a millionaire. And he's getting a huge payday because he cannot even fathom being without money.

No less. And to him, without money is X amount of millions of dollars. So he needs to take that ad or else he will have less money and be at higher risk of dying people and then people harness that energy in the crypto company and people at the top are making money off of all these people who know they need the money to live these people are going to live they're getting the stem cell dips and fucking norcal or whatever the fuck they do and all that shit is at play and they just know money is the only way we can stay alive this is you know this is just like you know they're we really need to redo glenn gary glenn ross but

with crypto you know like the whole it's just the whole thing because it is because my mind just keeps coming back to like it's men it's men who are gullible as fuck when it comes to money and speaking of like lemming mentality like the only way you can convince a lot of dudes to do something everyone else is doing is if you trick them you tell them they're going to get rich by it and trick them by saying like you're on the inside i know this is a super bowl ad that millions and millions and millions of people are watching right now. But only you, sir, Ian on the couch, only you know the real truth. You're going to invest right now. And it's just like, it's like, it's like what happens when I see Jennifer Aniston on a commercial. Like, I'll fucking do anything she wants to fucking sell me.

Like, I will buy literally anything. That's just smart. Water. You just touched on another layer. Fuck Matt Damon and Jennifer Aniston for doing commercials. Commercials used to be the place where a broke-ass actor could get their health insurance or they could feed their family for a year. Now Jon Hamm's doing H&R Block commercials.

Paul Giamatti's got a fucking Einstein costume on trying to sell me Verizon. These guys, those jobs, it used to be corny to sell out. And it used to be, don't sell out, do art. You're an artist, Paul Giamatti. You're an artist, Cecily Strong. You're an artist, Fletch. But now,

it's no longer about art. We equate qualitative success, like financial success with qualitative we are banksy is considered a great artist because his shit sells for a lot of money like it's like that doesn't mean he's good at art like people are like avatar is a good movie because it made a lot of money i'm like no avatar made a lot of money because it is a good movie right like it's it's not and so now we there's no judgment to someone who's like i'm in an ad like larry david the fucking king fucking saturday i'm not gonna sell out the king of i'm just myself on my show and then he does that that's yeah what does he need money for you seinfeld residuals could build a fucking

school a school in every city in america yeah but it's so great like we have the last laugh guys because like last last year it was like shit this is our reality to jack's point like this is just going to be it and then sam bankman freed loses 14 billion dollars and and we'll ultimately be fine probably oh he'll be fine but it implicates so many people including all politicians on all sides and the fact that we were all just sort of like walking down this primrose path together and no one was like adequately warning us like there's absolutely no kind of again for the gullible dudes out there there's no kinds of protections around something like crypto and what bankman freed actually wanted to do was to make it all legit, basically be a legitimate bank and then

get all of the assistance that banks already do. So we want to replace banks with these things that are not banks because they have a different name, but are essentially banks. Yeah, we want to replace these banks with banks that I'm in charge of. i got more money oh that's an interesting disruption what a fucking tech disruptor i want i want to sell you pizza instead of these assholes hey thanks pal yeah the the matt damon commercial i was just like we might have been able to see the everything you guys are talking about in this ad it i i had forgotten the details but matt damon strides through a cgi hall of adventurers past one a man who might be christopher columbus is probably christopher columbus so great great choice on your hero there to a mountain climber three a right brother for a man attempting to kiss a woman at a bar. So like, if there's like some Chad shit in there,

like you want to be a Chad, don't you, bro? Five, a group of multiracial gender balanced futuristic astronauts. So wait, that's all except for the last one. It's again, all fodder for gullible dudes. I swear to God, Francesca, you saying that made me think like if they just did an ad of like, you want to get rich and get pussy, send a thousand

dollars here. I think that company would make fucking ten million dollars immediately. And way more honest. You're going to be a fucking explorer. You're going to discover a content. Shut up. Just like get rich, get pussy. You know what I mean? That's way more honest. Yeah, absolutely.

Alright, that's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist please like and review the show if you like the show uh means the world to miles he he needs your validation folks i hope you're having a great weekend and i will talk to you monday bye weekend and I will talk to you Monday. Bye. Thank you. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in.

Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation,

then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese.

On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.