The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 262 (Best of 2/13/23-2/17/23)

Episode Date: February 19, 2023

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These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. So, without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. In our third seat, a comedian, actress, podcaster, who you know from Florida Girls, a black lady

sketch show, iCarly, from her podcast Scam Goddess. Before all that, from being a guest on this very podcast, our most requested return guest, holy shit shit she's back it's lacy mosley oh my god that's your plug in florida girls you really reached back to to the the back of the imdb also love that you ended with and also but don't forget that like i'm her podcast father that's right

that's right before all of that the i found her and made her come to an alley in santa monica and don't forget it also we're at a we work which is a scam so i know oh my god yeah the ultimate original scam yeah it's all a scam it turns. I think that's what we've discovered. The whole fucking thing is a scam. It scams all the way down. Life. Lacey, so good to have you back. How have you been?

Oh, my goodness. I have been absolute trash. You know, every day, scratching and, trying to like do good habits. I recently realized something that took me probably too long that you have to work out not just because you want to look cute on Instagram, but because like you need the endorphins to regulate your mental health. And I was like, why do I feel horrible all the time? And then I started working out again. I was like, oh, my brain. OK, right. Cool, cool, cool time? And then I started working out again. And I was like, oh, my brain. Okay.

Right. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Just move. Yeah. Yeah. Even if it's like a walk. Like nature, really be nature-ing. I went out into the nature this week.

Have you ever been to tree people in LA? Have I ever been to tree people? Oh, the place. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. But it sounds like somewhere black people aren't welcome. So I've never been. It does kind of give that.

No, it's actually really cute and like hippie-ish. And people donate trees like, I guess when they die or whatever. They donate like themselves to become trees when they die? I don't know if they're in the trees. And I was curious about that. I wanted to know. Sounds like very morbid. You're like walking through a beautiful forest and you're like, that was a human at one time.

That's Ted. That's Tommy over there. Angela. My blood and guts nourished the roots of this tree. Honestly, I would go then. If that was the premise, I would go to that shit every day. No, that sounds great. I'm glad that you did the Black

History Month thing because my Black History Month hasn't been that great i got a ticket see yeah from the police for speeding now did i deserve it listen i was late i'm 400 years late because of the police hear me out i'm 400 years late because of oppression okay so i gotta speed i gotta be 66 and a 35 that's my business we gotta we gotta we gotta make up for lost time that's why we gotta get there quicker exactly he said where were you going i should have said to freedom and then maybe i got out of the ticket yeah i didn't think of any of this at the time i was just hoping i didn't get you know you know how the cops be so i was just like sorry mr sir please i was a good negro back to blue i'm gonna say i'm gonna say you didn't deserve it i'm gonna say you didn't deserve it and you know what i didn't i didn't deserve i didn't get a beyonce coat and i don't deserve

that during black history month i i know there's some i know there's some white folks out there that got the codes for beyonce that y'all didn't y'all didn't come up off them codes for your black brothers and sisters and I see you I just want y'all to know that that would have been allyship I got the code last night though and I'm in there damn I'm in there MetLife Stadium good view nice I'm like I'm not gonna get Beyonce sweat on me which is what I wanted right but I am gonna see you know her pores so yo when the ticket's so expensive lacy can't get beyonce sweating on it because lacy out here balling out of control y'all y'all i am poor stop that why would you say something so egregious when they eat the rich they're not coming for me with the with the tulip no absolutely no i will be eating with everybody else i feel like the beyonce tickets are the latest like not since the like people were getting the

shot like and and people wanted the shot or like did you know like that everybody wanted the same shot and that like it's the great beyonce tickets are the great equalizer where it's like everybody wants these tickets and if you get it you are just a better human being than i think the rest of us so which which checks out i mean yeah i don't i didn't have a code to come up off of unfortunately yeah jack why don't you give us your code give us your code jack yeah we were actually talking about you yeah yeah you can tell i give off vibes like i have beyonce code you actually do you actually do you ain't get them i heart codes that's huge for me i didn't yeah i i do think i heart had like something that was allowing people to like get in line or something but i don't think it was allowing people to get in a line that led to getting beyonce's sweat on them okay yeah my thing is like i'm tired of the

resellers like i am a scammer i love scam culture however like do the work like kim kardashian said like nobody wants to work these days like how are you just gonna have a bot steal a bunch of tickets and then flip them online like if you want to flip ticket, you should have to go in person like they did in the olden days and scalp and have them inside of your jacket. You've got to wear a trench coat. It's got to be long. And you've got to have them inside your jacket like Hustle Man. And you've got to, you know, show your wares out in the parking lot. I don't like that you can just steal them on the Internet and flip them on the Internet.

There's no work involved in that yeah just a bunch of like stamford computer science grads are like controlling the all the tickets to all the shows in the history of yeah i don't like it rafael we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history so the last thing i was listening to another podcast, I think New York Times. We don't acknowledge that those exist. Yeah, it doesn't exist anymore. It's gone, actually. The last thing from my Google search was ironically about Bing.

Oh, yes. Bing. They're teaming up. Just clawed its way back to relevance. Yeah. With a partnership. With that creepy chat GPT, the one that can write those college essays. Yeah.

I was like down that rabbit hole. And it's scary because, you know, we watched Google make smart people smarter and kind of ignorant people more ignorant. Yeah. And now we're going to come upon a new society where they can't even accidentally come across the right information. It's just going to, the search engine is going to tell them what the answer is.

In sentence form, but also maybe, yeah, if you don't know how to use it, you might draw the wrong conclusions. Yeah, it's got controlled by billionaire monopolies and ai itself still racist still sexist feeling lucky button on google was wordy like that's what they've decided to go with here i'm a little nervous i'm feeling lucky and i will not shut up my favorite type of people just constantly feeling lucky regardless of you know outward

indications of or results and just can't can't shut the fuck up so what would you learn what would you have you did you see any of the results? I think I saw some results where somebody was like, where is the avatar showing? And it wound up with them like down a very strange path. What I do is I don't have the, it's like private access to test it out right now, but I test out other AIs. I work with a group called Athena Coalition

and we oppose Amazon and they are authors of their own AI stuff and facial and things that they sell to like governments to oppress their people. And it's really scary what's out there. Like if you ask it basic questions, a lot of these AIs, you could see what they call guardrails. But really, they actually like you could see it censoring results. You could see it, you know, saying like,

no, you don't like, if you ask about armed revolution, you'll see them always responding, you know, like, yes, the most successful ways historically to change oppressive systems have been violent revolutions. But however, however. Not for you, not anymore. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no not anymore! Yeah, yeah. Shh, shh, shh, shh.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Here's one very carefully selected sentence from the I Have a Dream speech. I just also love... AI is like... Even the uncensored version of it, it's just like, this whole thing is like educated on, number one,

the totality of the internet taken credulously and number two like people who love ai like that's who interacts with it most and guess what people who love ai are fucking creeps so like yeah like on the whole any listeners who love it but you know what i mean it's just like, of course it's a fucking creep. It'll just be whatever Andrew Yang would reply with. Yeah. Oh, God, that fucker. He's ruining being Andrew at about my age and Chinese.

Oh, no. He fucked it up for me. On the one hand, but on the other hand, the same hand, but I'll just pretend like it's another hand. I forgot. What is something you think is overrated? Thank you for asking

Jack. Hey Nick, what's something you think is overrated? Now this question is out of left field, but I think I have an answer. Chubby Checker oh chubby checker is overrated that is a hot take that i think is correct okay now it might not be the most timely take but well i just heard of them i'm tired of these damn kids telling me about chubby checker man shut the fuck up forever teenager we need telling me about Chubby Checker, man. Shut the fuck up.

Forget it. We need to talk about Chubby Checker. If you see, he's probably 90. But if you see him, he has an impeccable hairline and haircut. Does he? It is. He's still here. He's still alive.

A team. The same team that did makeup and hair on the whale. Fair. So Chubby Checker, we all love him. He's the twist guy. He brought us to our lives. I'm looking at a picture of him in 2005. He looks amazing.

Yeah, he looks amazing. Wait, was he like 12 when he was famous? Because he's only 81 now. No. Okay. I don't know. But I feel like he was maybe a person who looked older when he was younger. Because he was born in 41.

Wasn't he famous in the early 60s? So, yeah, 1960 is when his big song came out. So he was 19. He looked like a middle-aged... I guess everyone looked like a middle-aged person back then. Yeah. They were all drinking lead. Also, he's probably, you know,

the heft helps. Yeah. And he's very tall. It's crazy that he's still chubby. Yeah, well, you can't lose your... I mean, you know, at this point, if he comes out skinny, who's going to see that concert?

No one wants to fuck with skinny checkers. Yeah. Skinny chess? No thanks. Yeah. Skinny chess. So, okay, everybody thinks they love the twist. It's a dance that, you know, anyone can do because it's literally moving right to left.

Yeah. Almost not a dance. Right. So, in 1960, Chubby Checker at 19 releases Let's Do the Twist. And it's number one hit. It does great. He's a genius. So, then in 1961, the label comes back

and they say, Chubby, you did it, and you gotta do it again. You gotta give us something else. So then Chubby's like, you know what, guys? I'm not full of ideas. I can't think of another chance. So in 1961,

he's eventually saying, I got it. I figured it out. He releases Let's Twist Again. Like we did last summer. Which, incredible move to reference a previous song in a song. And a song that has staying power. Like, people still play Twist Again. Like, I've heard that song all these years later.

No, another hit. So he's a genius. Okay. So then, 60, 60 61 those are his years 1962 label comes back they say chubby you did it twist man you know he's he's got a new nickname at this point and they're like you're the twist guy and he's like i know i'm the twist guy let's fucking hit it everybody get in the basement because the twister's coming that's what i would have said to him for sure when he was coming into my office as an a and r executive back then yes 1962 he thinks uh let's let's uh let's do it he releases twisting usa that's right which i assume he thought there was going to be a twist in for every country. But this song was not a hit.

And so I think at that point, he starts to lose it a little bit. And a couple months later, he comes out with Slow Twistin' and La Paloma Twist, which are sexy twist songs. Yeah. Because the twist is not sexy. You're bound to knee your partner in the groin. Yeah. So he got some slow versions is not sexy. You're bound to knee your partner in the groin. Yeah. So he got some slow versions, not hits.

And then, let's say summer of 1962, he's at the end of his rope, and he's lost his mind. He doesn't even know why he got into the twist game, and he releases, teach me to twist. Which, you know, he's lost his mind. We're like, Chubby, you taught us to twist. I forgot to twist. Which, you know, he's lost his mind. We're like, Chubby, you taught us to twist.

I forgot to twist. It's like some set, yeah. You know, the way to really like learn something is by teaching it. So maybe he's just like, you guys have clearly lost your love and passion for the twist. How about this? I'm going to play a fucking mind game with you you teach me to twist what if what if we tried that but just yeah sheer desperation like a panic idea like an idea it's like a sad like attempt to get uh you know like people talking

you know just to get some engagement like sounds like a degenerative neurological disorder where he's slowly like, teach me to twist. And then it's just like, where are car keys? And it just keeps going down. So, not a hit, folks. So then that same year in 1962, he pivots and he thinks, maybe I'm just...

Like he was twisting. Yes. He twists. Thinking about struggling now. He says, maybe I'm the dance guy for dances that aren't really dances. And he releases Limbo Rock. Oh. That was a Chucky Checkers. But I'll tell you what the song was. A fucking hit.

Yeah, a huge hit. He's back. So then in 1963, you got to do it again. He comes back with Let's limbo some more yeah did he really yes this is this psychopath's journey

I mean he's only 23 imagine he's a child he's a child so then not a hit and then he's like you know he's starting to rethink everything and he's like maybe I am, he's starting to rethink everything. And he's like, maybe I am the twist guy. And then also in 1963, he releases Twisted Up.

Back to Twisted. Not a hit. 1964, nothing. He doesn't release anything. He goes insane. He gets an Airbnb in Big Bear. He takes a gun and a dog and he waits a year just thinking there's got to be something else. And then in 1965,

bam, he's back with Let's Do the Freddy. Yeah, that's a left turn you didn't expect. Where'd that song come from? His name's Chubby. Well, Freddy and the Dreamers released the song that same year.

And so he was just listening to the radio and he was like, they're doing a dance song. Chubby's the dance guy. I'm releasing the song. Did he steal their dance? He stole it. Also, the dance is basically lifting your arms above your head and sticking out one leg. It's the Daniel song. Oh, okay.

That's all. It's a dumb fucking. Why couldn't he be like, put your arms to the side. It's the daniel son oh okay that's all it's a dumb fucking day why couldn't he be like ray put your arms to the side it's the chubby just say your name anyway not a hit he's gone he's done that's it that's the chubby checker everybody loves so much you're right he apparently appeared in a film called don't Knock the Twist in 1962. Nobody's knocking anybody. You better watch your fucking mouth about the twist, bro. Imagine if he had had like a TikTok.

And he just like comes out every week with like, why are people ruining my twist? A New York Times op-ed in defense of the twist. Yeah. Wow. Dude, that is. He's. You're right. You just took us on yeah so overrated i don't know if he's overrated i don't know if that's what i took from that wow what a what a run what is something you think is underrated what do i think is underrated i okay so i grew up in the suburbs and there's this trend all over social media to act like eating at Olive Garden or something is the lamest shit ever again. This is the opposite of what I just said, but flip. meal for a reasonable price is fucking terrible yeah like you go to these places olive garden

outback steakhouse wherever there's always families in there people are just spending time with each other just having meals laughter you know whatever love and i i really i don't like this like trend on social media there but it's like ew you ate that fucking olive garden oh my god that's fucking nasty right bitch there's a reason they, you ate that fucking Olive Garden? Oh my God, that's fucking nasty. Right. It's like, bitch, there's a reason they're popular and that they're everywhere. Yeah.

I mean, this is like the girls who are going to Erewhon and being like, this is my $600 ice cream sundae with the exact same people. Yeah.

Those are fucking lame. Hyper obnoxious. When people are like, it's so bleak in there. It's like, you're just, you're scared of poor people. I guess you find like the idea of not having money gross.

And that's what you're saying. What? There are people in there who don't have as much money as you maybe. And you're like, oh, my God, it's so bleak and depressing. Exactly. Not everybody's going to go to fucking Jose Andres restaurants every fucking chance they get. And that's fine. gonna go to fucking jose andreas restaurants every fucking chance they get that's and that's fine that's like you shouldn't look down on people because they that's where that's where the the

treat meal is for them they're you know there's sunday after church meal or whatever the fuck like there is nothing wrong with people fucking spending a little bit of money because that's all they have or even if that's what they want to eat you know even if you do have money that's where you want to go fucking whatever man i don't. Also, have you ever been teenagers? That was the time, man. We go to like our $15 little restaurant or whatever. We could afford this. It felt like kings were really balling.

Yeah, we could smoke in a restaurant. Forget about it. Yes. The bill was never enough. Nobody was like, what the fuck kind of mathematics is it with a shared restaurant bill when you're in high school? Yes.

It has never once been enough. Never, never. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's like that, all that, you know what it is? I think at the end of the day, and I think this is true for my standup,

and I think this is true just for how I live my life. I'm really tired of people being mad about the wrong shit. Yeah. it's very exhausting that people spend so much energy on the wrong shit like you're really mad about valentine's day bro get a life you're mad about families going to hometown buffet or whatever the fuck like dude let people just have their little pieces of enjoyment however they can get it like the world is hard enough like the news is sad enough and like that's the shit that you put your energy into you're mad

about the wrong shit you gotta be mad about the right shit you gotta learn how to like channel your anger your energy your negativity into the right places yeah get out there and vote people thank you thank you yeah we used to we used to hit up. There's an Applebee's and a strip mall in Lexington, Kentucky, with a cigarette machine in the back. And that was every Friday night for. You know what? And that's actually that's the other thing, too, is that I think that especially left wing liberals and shit there, they concentrate on like shitting on shit they shouldn't be shitting on. It turns people off you know and i think that's that's part of the problem that um i think a lot of liberal democratic people

they they focus too much energy on the stupidest shit and it's like bro you can't get people on our side if you're gonna shit on like the things that they just simply enjoy on a weekly basis or whatever the fuck right like sex scenes in movies yeah well that is yeah that's puritanical movement of being like no more sex scenes ever like yeah children what yeah it's weird yeah yeah i feel like the liberal urge to make fun of nascar is not is not good it's not good for for the big d democrat party it's also just like it's a thing yeah people just enjoy their shit like let people enjoy whatever it is yeah they're like little pastime shit isn't actually affecting you like why the fuck are you mad about it you know yeah

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Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown

in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County rebels will stay the Boone County rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print.

They lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When civil rights said

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Mike Pence has been subpoenaed by the special counsel investigating Trump's attempts to overthrow the government, I guess, and experts are calling him a potential key witness in the case. And he, I feel like when I, any time I imagine him,

I just go back to that moment where he is between Trump and Nancy Pelosi and just trying, like, jamming his eyes closed, trying to teleport himself out of the moment. Just being like, God, don't just let me let this be over. I feel like that's what where he is all the time. He's just constantly reciting the Lord's Prayer. Right. Yeah. That that's the face that he gives. Yeah. I mean, he's trying to run for president for that and would need the support of a demographic that shit is trying to hide that shit

because he doesn't want to be revealed as the person who brought down trump because trump supporters like fairly recently tried to murder him in public yes and and he's like kind of like how does he campaign he's like look if i don't keep my promises my neck is real snappable it is like you could totally hang me you know there's a million ways you could kill me but until then vote for me like that's gonna be his bid i think there's also something going on like during trump's administration there he pence was always the billionaire pick he was always like the coke brothers boy he was always like you always heard behind the scenes like he was ready to step in and like he was meeting with all the donors and he was

and i think like that's what's going on here is that he is i'm sure it's going to switch, if it hasn't already, to DeSantis, but there's just something about the billionaire class that wants Mike Pence to be the president because he's so spineless, like almost a medical scientific miracle how spineless he is. And just, he is their guy. He's literally an earthworm in a suit yeah he's just worming around yeah and so i think i think that that's why we keep hearing about him and why he thinks i don't know if he even believes really deep down that he could win but there's a lot of money riding on it it's just so so funny, the cowardice, right? Like

you see at least DeSantis, who I think will absolutely just implode going up against Trump because he can't. He won't. Everyone's still scared to go against Trump. But DeSantis is just like he's like a little leaf that's just in a wind. And he's like, oh, please, little gust, like take me to where I need to go. Lord is my shepherd. I shall not want like he's just in a wind. And he's like, oh, please, little gust, like, take me to where I need to go. Lord is my shepherd. I shall not want like he's just waiting for like the cues on how to play every single thing to his advantage or not. But but until then, he's not going to like take any kind of stand. So he won't condemn Donald Trump. He won't say Donald Trump legitimately legitimately lost the 2020 election. He won't he will not come out on any side of anything. He won't say Donald Trump legitimately lost the 2020 election. He won't,

he will not come out on any side of anything. He just wants the Lord as his shepherd to guide him into the White House. And that's not going to fly. It's not going to happen like that. And so, I mean, one thing I think about all these stupid classified documents is like, they're way too many classified documents generally like we're over classifying everything that doesn't mean yeah throw it to the fucking blogs that everyone should watch and read everything no no it just means like clearly you know how many more people have classified documents in their homes right now in their third homes as fucking congress people a lot of them so

you know i've been reading about you know david dan of the american prospect wrote this whole thing about like actually we've been over classifying things for decades so it's just a it's an endless tit for tat story yeah but it is interesting in terms of maybe he does have stuff that's like remember the alternate slate of electors that was supposed to be handed to him the day he was going to confirm the election results? For sure. Does he have those? Where are they? Was there an alternate plan?

Who's the Trump's lawyer? I'm blanking on his name who basically came up with the alternate slate of electors. Like, you know, there was a lot of like, this is our secret plan dossier. Yeah. We've sprayed it with perfume it's cool water it sounds it smells great and we're gonna win you know like you you know there's some shit that probably should get like glued back together at this point from you know from the shredder that it went through right so the the fbi began a consensual search of his house. But that so he's trying to portray it as him him being more like Biden, where he's just like, yeah, sure, let cooperating. But I do go back to I don't think anyone actually gives a shit about classified

documents in anyone's house other than Trump's. Trump, it makes sense that it would be a problem because it like you could actually see him trying to trade state secrets for like preferential tax treatment in Dubai or some shit like that. You know, like, yeah, he he has that vibe. And like, I don't I don't think anyone thinks Pence or Biden or any of these people is so. But it's just this logic trap that the mainstream media has fallen into that they're like, well, if we treated it seriously with Trump, we must treat it seriously with them. And it's like, oh, God, that's that's absolutely like nobody is worried that Pence is like engaging in like spy craft. spy craft or already sold the information we know that like we know he's already like made good on that if the deal's done and but yeah you got npr being like um is it fair that uh the former vice president biden uh did keep the just like shut the fuck up we know because trump we know and like i hate to say this like oh i don't care because it's my boy. Biden's not my boy. Biden's not anybody's boy.

Biden fucking sucks. We just know that like. Pence sucks. I'm not worried about either of them having fucking classified documents. Yeah. Oh, God. I just have to say one of the lawyers who talked about the alternate slate of electors, if you guys forgot his name. Kenneth Cheesebro.

Yeah. Yeah. Cheesebro. Oh, yeah. That Bro. Ooh, yeah. That's a rough one. Kenny. Cheese Bro. Cheese Bro.

Cheese Bro. What he walks into is a law firm. It's like when someone named Luke checks into a basketball game and everyone's like, Luke, Cheese Bro. Cheese Bro. Cheese Bro.

Cheese. What's that from i forget anyways can i just say though rating like pence the reason pence doesn't want his home rated is because you know they don't he doesn't want anyone to find out his like little snm dungeon yeah with like weird pictures of like mary magdalene looking real fly you know yeah i was gonna say he definitely strikes me as a dude that would have a basement full of like mary magdalene looking real fly you know yeah i was gonna say he definitely strikes me as a dude that would have a basement full of like kneelers with nails in them you know what i mean like that kind of stuff where you're just like all right dude okay the loose nail is a design feature not a bug yes yeah 1000 where he's like i need to kneel and look at her and pray and oh god documents yeah exactly yeah it's some opus day weird ass shit 1000% where he's like I need to kneel and look at her and pray documents it's some Opus Dei weird ass shit

in a little bit of pee yeah exactly and a place to bleach your eyebrows no one's asking what's in the eyebrow bleach alright let's talk about this list we talked about it last week it's just a fun list to return to.

These are new bits of social etiquette that New York Magazine is suggesting. Is it perfect? No. Is it elitist? Well, I'll tell you that the very first rule is you don't have to read everyone's book. We can't be expected to spend all our time metabolizing content by friends or friends of friends. Like, so way to start with one everyone can relate to. You know, all of my friends have books.

Everyone has just written a memoir. And I haven't just gotten around. Oh, my God. Wow. They open with that. It's crazy that they open with that. Real approachable. There's also good stuff.

Like, there's good stuff in there. There are hundreds of these and there's some good stuff that we talked last week about. One that was never tell anyone who you think they look like. I agree with that. It's such a weird... It's just weird. It's both

weird. It's bad for anyone who's doing the, you know who you look like that you are about to say something that is gonna fuck you like fuck that person up or whatever but it's so it's so revealing that it's always interesting like i do want to know what they're gonna say i'm not gonna like it but i desperately want to know what the fuck they're gonna say that's why i always like as someone who's mixed like it's so funny because ethnicity really is in the eye of the beholder absolutely people will tag you and be like is this your doppelganger you're like what are you what world but that being said jack you do you do look like el chapo's son yes i'm sorry oh yeah that's right.

I hope you talked about that. It's so funny that this came up. I did not talk about that. But yeah, you pointed out on Twitter that I do look a little like El Chapo's son, who I was like, yeah, I will take that. He is hot and very young. He's a good looking guy.

Yeah, he's hot, dangerous, young. Good brows. I'll take all that. Great brows. I'm going to have to do a google i've never seen it looks like i'm 1000 gonna google that but it's just funny like as a fat person i get i mean i've gotten chrissy metz from this is us like twice since i've lived in natchito and i could not look anything less like her other than we're both fat women

like where i'm like oh my god? I don't look anything like her. Nothing. Like, not a stint. Like, we don't dress similarly. Our styles are not the same. We don't have the same hair color. We don't have the same eye color. The only thing we have is big round bodies

with big round heads. Like, that's literally it. Her makeup's fly. I feel like you crush it on makeup. Oh no, she's a beautiful woman. Like, that's it, though. We just don't look alike right and like what yeah but people people are really reflexive reflexively go to that a lot

i talked about how i got walton goggins one time and it ruined my day walton goggins i don't know that is very funny actor from vice vice principals and it was just did you just look him up yeah so walton goggins is early man like look at this moment he's like he's got chromagnon yeah uh here are some news so those are the ones we talked about okay last week some some new new rules because that's what they would have called it if bill maher hadn't one up the phone. What's that? I said, were you going to break into one? Don't pick up the phone. So one is don't post RIPs for celebrities unless David Crosby was your actual uncle.

Refrain. I think this is true if you're just posting a picture and being like, oh, man, R.I.P. That said, I love a celebrity story like it. And I feel like you get true and like wild stories about celebrities like behaving badly when they die or behaving like awesomely when they die. die or behaving like awesomely when they die so i will allow a personal anecdote about said celebrity when the celebrity dies personally what are you guys's thoughts i'm with you on that i think if you have a personal connection of some sort and it's to a degree that you feel compelled to do that you know and you've got like you said you've got some sort of anecdote or some sort of you know relevance or an interesting sort of take i think that that's fine i do think it's weird when people post videos i'm like crying or like you know what i mean where they're like in tears and it's like you've never met that person you don't know them

they don't know you like you've got to calm down you know what i mean just handle that process it whatever you need to do but i don't think you need to involve the rest of us. Yeah, but it's also held in. You should not held in. You should cry and but then i have to maybe admit something that's gonna get me a lot of hate i think the closest i was to like crying when a celebrity died call him a celebrity call him a 21st century socialist when hugo chavez died it fucked me up you know as a socialist as someone who's like, you know, believes in the Latin American left. Yes, he wasn't perfect, but reduced poverty by 70 percent in that country, extreme poverty by 90 percent. It fucked me up that he died slash was given cancer's the thing. Here's what I don't like about posting RIPs of celebrities. It always makes me feel guilty that I didn't like that celebrity harder. So I retroactively try to be cool and be like, totally. I knew blankety blank.

You know what I mean? Like, I'm not just Googling them now and ordering their books. Yeah. Another elitist one. You and Bobby De Niro may go way back, but to everyone else, he's Robert. This is true. This always makes me hate the celebrity a little bit, but it's also like a fun way. I think celebrities should keep doing it because it reminds us that they are not like us and they're trash.

But who is the intended audience of this article like that that was like this is this just for like james marsden like the like it's a very random thing like this person must have been like around some real d-bags that are just like referring to like are they just like randomly referring to bobby oh no bobby who oh oh De Niro did you know you know Bobby yeah like how is this how often is this happening that this made this article all the time to New York magazine editors and they assumed the rest of us I guess it was like one dinner that he felt on the out of and he was like you know what rules okay like that's what it also feels kind of like a troll. Like I've read all of these. I feel like some of them are pretty satirical. Like one of them is like, don't wake

up your partner ever, ever. Uh, if you think there's an intruder, work it out with it on your deal with it. It's like, yeah. Yeah. Which is true because I always think there's an intruder and there definitely is not, but maybe there there is and i have woken up my partner but like oh i'm not supposed to use partner unless quote you want to get something out of it according to him right which is like straight people can't use partner unless it's like a there's an angle which i'm like that's terrible that's right that's super terrible like i take such umbrage with that because like i'm a 45 year old woman i don't have a boyfriend what am I 16 like that's just ridiculous like that is and also like as women I think in general women are more comfortable using

the word boyfriend like whether we're two or 100 we will use that because it's like we want to say we have one but like men have been avoiding the word girlfriend forever like there's nothing like my friend like and then as they get older it just gets worse like some 50 year old man's like oh this is my lady friend where it's like yeah i get it bro you still fuck like you don't why do you partner is fine partner is the best word that's who that person is it is your partner in life like but i've also been on the other side where i've said partner people like oh what does she do and i'm like uh me, how do you not know that, what? Like, just to assume that I am gay because I use that.

You know, not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's like, it's just, it's so silly to me. Like, what an antiquated version. We're still hung up on this, if you're not married, that like, you can't use a word like partner. It's been long enough. It should be normalized and without, and it can be open, whether, you know, that person's same sex or it's it should be normalized and without and it can be open

whether you know that person's same sex or not it should just absolutely and also if there's an intruder in my house i'm not gonna have to wake up because he's gonna be awake and that person's gonna have a fucking gun in their face so i don't like not in my house i'm sorry like i've got we got cameras i got things for a reason and if i get up first they're gonna have two guns in their face like that's gonna be both of us. But if they track mud in the house, you will pop that rug right in the washer. And it'll be fine. That's what I'm saying.

Shoot someone. You know what I mean? Get rid of that body. Dig a hole. Roll up that rug. Put it in the washer. It just makes sense. Not because you did anything wrong, but just because you want to, you know, it's a hassle

to bring the police in and stuff. And you're completely self-sufficient. All right. One that I want to induct into the like these need to be absolute rules for everyone. The other two were the celebrity lookalikes and also white people only get to pronounce 50 cent like I just did. They don't get to do 50. That is the other. Yeah.

I think those are two hard rules that need to be, everybody needs to agree on that. I think this one. Also, why are we still talking about 50 Cent? Why is that? Who are these legions of people that are still? I say never stop talking about 50 Cent. Yeah, 50 Cent. What about Flo Rida?

How do we treat that one? I think just insist on pronouncing it Florida. And just own, just steer into the whiteness and irrelevance. Do you like the music of Florida? Florida was a wonderful rapper with a terrible hairline. That's right. For group dinners, this isn't even funny. This is just one that I want to add to the, you know, the Ten Commandments.

For group dinners with friends, always split the bill evenly. But if you're drinking and I'm not, offer to pay the entire tip. Yes. Yes. Perfect. Common sense. Yes. Common sense.

The itemizing of it and like being like, let me see here, just just leads to chaos. And then, yes, people who don't drink. It's it's not fun to. Really not fun to pay for other people's alcohol. Yeah. Yeah. Big time. I think that's not great.

It's not the end of the world, but like it's it's a very courteous thing to do to be like, hey, since you didn't drink, you i'll pay for the tip anyways but you have but you can't like you have to offer if you're the one who didn't drink how do you ride that it's very difficult also another one i just want to induct saw someone shoplifting no you didn't there we go agree with that fuck up shut up yeah yeah shut the fuck up quiet down karen that's not your business anything in general that is a crime against a piece of property shut the fuck up okay it's not that's not a person so you can also saw someone digging in the trash just let it go let it in your trap it's fine it's fine it's fine it's trash you put it there you threw it

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. and did you guys did you guys catch the the jesus themed ads yes and i was very confused and scared i was very i was i was watching i went to the super bowl and watched it at the soho house last night okay okay oh you know know, we was ready and it was a lot of black folks in there and we was watching this shit, you know, in the big ass rooms. And when it was all these images of just angry people, we was like, what the fuck is it? Because we weren't really watching the commercials, but like that one, like made everybody like stop and turn and start watching it because it was just a bunch of images of people being angry and people pointing at each other or kids standing on each other to pee. It's these weird fucking images.

And then it would just be like, Jesus, yes, I bought ad space for the Super Bowl. And the kids are starving. Jesus, why are you buying Super Bowl ads? Those are expensive. You know how much work of Jesus you could have done with the payment of Super Bowl ads for Jesus? I think we did enough colonizing and

crusading for people to know about Jesus, okay? Y'all went everywhere under the guise of Jesus while y'all were stealing stuff from poor people. We know about him. When the Beatles were the most famous people in the world, they said they were as famous as Jesus. And everyone was so furious that they canceled the Beatles for saying that.

So they're pretty well known. The Super Bowl commercial alone to your point lazy they probably cost around 20 million dollars people that is insane so who how many people have given their money to this organization under the guise of like philanthropy and christ and all the things that people who love jesus the most never do because everybody who really bangs with jesus super super hard and likes to throw him in other people's faces they don't ever do anything that he said like charity you know like helping one another loving that neighbor they harm that neighbor like it's so confusing to me but also it's disgusting to me like we really need to like bully them i'm gonna cyber bully them right after

this because they could have done so much good with that money. And instead, they just decided to flex with a Super Bowl ad. Like, it's like, oh, Snoop Dogg and Martha Stewart. And now, geez, us? What? I don't even, I really don't even get it. Like, what? The us is there in his name. The us is, I, there's no I in Jesus, but there is an us.

That's true. There's a you, though. That's right, a you. There's a you. There's a you and't us. That's true. There's a you, though. That's right, a you. There's a you. If you want to spend $20 million on ads, at least make that shit funny, man. If it would have been a funny Jesus commercial, I probably would have went to church next Sunday.

I ain't been to church in a couple years. He's up on the cross and he's like, y'all ain't gonna act right for me? Look what I did. Look what I did. Have you ever had, stub your toe and cry? I had nails in my feet, people. And the sexiest body up here.

Y'all ain't got ass like me. Shredded. So the ads are all being run by the signatory, which sounds like some shit a villain would say. Like, it sounds like how a villain would call a signatory yeah welcome to the signatory everybody it's a christian foundation that raises money for causes that they claim inspire and facilitate revolutionary biblical generosity that's a that's a freaking ponzi scheme money laundering that's a bull so you telling me your whole y'all just raise awareness assist they're like y'all just raise awareness.

They're like, y'all, we got 30 million awareness. This is tonight. What is that doing? The awareness is says meter is off the is off the charts. Off the charts. We did our job. So according to Fox News, AOC was roasted by conservatives for criticizing the campaign after she tweeted. Something tells me Jesus would not spend millions of dollars on Super Bowl ads to make fascism look benign. And people were like, what? These ads are part

of an effort to spread the message of Jesus to LGBTQ plus people and other communities that have like felt unwelcome by Christianity. So what are you talking about? Except it turns out the signatory, also known as Servant Foundation, has reportedly donated more than $50 million to the Alliance Defending Freedom, which you know by that title, it can't be good, designated as an anti-LGBTQ plus hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. So what do they need 50 million dollars for so they can go to joanne's fabrics or hobby lobby because that's the real oppressor they go to hobby lobby and get get cardboard cardstock so they can go harass the gays at brunch because that's what they do like yeah like and also you have to be so bored and so sad in your life to be like where

are the gays having brunch go Let me get on Yelp. And then y'all have a poster sign, make it party. And then y'all go outside of the brunch. Y'all, we meeting at noon. That's when they like to get there. And just stand outside and be like, we don't like you. What? Especially because brunch be good.

Like sit down and eat a waffle. Like you mean to tell me you holding this sign is better than you eating some french toast with some maple syrup and some mimosas come on now they're just out there with like dry cereal and it's a flop bag cheerios are good too that's why they mad that's why they mad they got bran flakes and shit why people why why everybody why the gays is eating like fucking... The gays are twerking next to their poached eggs and they are mad about it. They are pissed.

Honestly, I'm about to get involved in hate groups because it's such a great scam. I'm just making a company called For Hate and just ask haters to give me money. I'm not going to tell them what I'm doing with it. But I'm like, no, don't worry, y'all. We're going to get the hate up.

Yeah, just do the opposite of this. Yeah. Just do an openly hateful group and then secretly spend the money on good things. Because that's what they're doing. But they're not spending it on good things. They're just pocketing it. It's all a front. By good things, I mean brunch.

Yes. They're spending it on good things like brunch. They're going to see me at the brunch while they're rioting, being gay as fuck. I'm like, ma'am, I'm like, I'm getting on the inside. Don't blow my cover. They also helped draft the 2018 Mississippi abortion law at the heart of the Supreme Court decision last year, allowing states to ban the procedure. Currently leading a new Supreme Court decision last year allowing states to ban the procedure currently leading a new Supreme Court case arguing that businesses should be able to discriminate against LGBTQ plus customers so it's the opposite of all the things that they're claiming they're it's they're doing the work of of trying to address yeah they're trying to address the pr front you know like it would be like the whatever

this train company's name is like next year just like running an ad about how they're all about the people and fuck chemicals or something you know and honestly thai commercials look more like ads for jesus than those jesus ads did like thai commercials or or commercials for like drugs like medications where they're like biking and then they're in a tub and they're like outside blowing than those Jesus ads did. Like, Thai commercials or commercials for, like, drugs, like, medications where they're, like, biking and then they're in a tub and they're, like, outside blowing one of those little flowers

that, like, all the little seeds go around, dandelions. Like, those look like commercials for Jesus. Like, oh, we're helping. We're out. We're living. But they just showed us, like,

a bunch of people yelling and it was in black and white and it was kind of scary and it was like, why is this, like, Old Testament? Like, why y'all trying to terrify us during the super bowl yeah they i'm telling you they literally had a picture on one because they ran like four commercials last night or some shit uh they they had a picture that showed a little boy on his fours on his hands and knees with

another kid standing on him pissing in a urinal. And I was like, that was one of the pictures. And I was like, what the fuck is this commercial? These are the weird, that's the weirdest. You know what that makes me think of? The love of Jesus. Yeah, that's what Jesus would have done.

Whoa, Jesus. Jesus would have got on his hands and knees so that I could reach the urinal. Also, the commercials at the Super Bowl in general were just terrible. They're bad now. Everything is just devolving in front of our eyes. They're like, oh, we'll just get influencers and celebrities and that'll make it funny and good. It's like, these used to be fun.

I used to like watching the commercials. We turned the music up this year. We were like, this is terrible. Like, I didn't even give a shit about the commercials this year. They used to be very fun. Also, companies now start promoting their Super Bowl commercial. And, like, three, four weeks before, or laying foundation for, like, the reveal of the commercial commercial even though they had about six seven commercials like the eminem shit with maya rudolph who look i love my rudolph but like man that was

just so boring and such a trash campaign it didn't make sense it wasn't funny it makes me mad bring back if trump want to win a presidency make super bowl commercials great again all right yeah bring back some what's up you know like fun stuff like hey i bring it back every day at the beginning of a zoom call you know every zoom call i join that's my friend thank you i've been a lot of practice i'm not gonna lie a lot of practice lacy this is mainly what i've been working on since i saw you pay it off yeah let me of practice. I'm not going to lie. A lot of practice, Lacey. That's mainly what I've been working on since I saw you last. It paid off. Yeah. Let me know if you need me to donate to your practice fund. We used to spoof commercials.

Remember that? Like, that commercial was spoofed in Scary Movie. Like, I can't even think of a commercial that would be spoofed today. Yeah. No. Besides this Jesus commercial. Actually, maybe the Jesus commercial knows what the fuck they do. The Jesus commercial is iconic. Honestly, it was a hit. No. Besides this Jesus commercial. Actually, maybe the Jesus commercial knows what the fuck they do. The Jesus commercial is iconic.

Honestly, it was a hit. Camp. It is camp. What if they were like, well, we just liked it because the Jesus commercial is camp. Right. We got Mithrigan, Megan Mithrigan, and we got the Jesus commercials. Did you see Mithrigan? I haven't seen it yet.

I actually heard y'all talking about it. I got to see it. But it's camp and I know everybody loves it. So also the Jesus. Yeah. commercials did you see mithregan i haven't seen it yet i actually heard y'all talking about i gotta see it but it's camp and i know everybody loves it so also the jesus jesus they on the sorry just one last detail on this because you did mention hobby lobby so on the website for he gets us they talk about how jesus promoted women's equality which is a little undercut by the fact that one of the campaign's vocal donors is Hobby Lobby co-founder David Green, the man himself who has supported anti-LGBTQ legislation, waged a years-long legal fight to deny medical coverage for contraception on the basis of religious beliefs. So yeah, the very person that you would assume is involved in this.

And like that, that is most known for opposing the sorts of messages they're trying to claim. Like Jesus is on board with this is, is involved. It's like, they were like, well,

we got to get the main bad guy involved all this time. I thought the hobby was like knitting and yarn. The hobby is hate. Yeah. That's what they do it in the lobby gotta practice yeah but it's it really is the equivalent of like a youth group pastor who like sits down like puts his hat on backwards and is like yeah no i get it like i want to you know jesus was just cool and like he just liked to rap with his friends turns his seat backwards and then like by the end of the month of youth group he's like talking to you about masturbating and how it's like the devil wants to kill you because you've masturbated or some shit it's just the bait and switch that old bait and switch cool cool pastor and i'm not falling for it anymore i was just involved in a

youth group i got scammed you guys i gotta gotta stop going to christian gotta stop going to christian youth groups i got it's uh they're like why is this grown man here once i hit my 40s they were like maybe not but i just like i'm still youthful. What's that like about? Thank you. We didn't even put an age cap on this, okay? Absolutely. I belong with the youth. I get that. Jesus' love doesn't have a number. But now I get it.

I understand the hate groups more because I used to be like, why do they want to be in people's business? But I'm like, oh, it's a grift. They're just stealing your money and using it for whatever they want. And you don't really have to try much out when you're for hate. It's not much that you can show for that that is a spreadsheet of like, you don't really have to try much out when you're for hate. Like, you know, it's not much that you can like show for that. That is like, you know, a spreadsheet of like, look how many hates we did this week. Like, no, we're doing the work.

Right. You can spend the money however you want. It's a grift. Yeah, exactly. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show uh means the world to miles he he needs your validation folks uh i hope you're having a great weekend and i will talk to you

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