The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 263 (Best of 2/21/23-2/24/23)

Episode Date: February 26, 2023

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 263 (2/21/23-2/24/23)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeart on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist uh these are some of our favorite segments from this week all edited together into one uh non-stop infotainment laughstravaganza. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the architect of this show's destruction.

A brilliant comedian, writer, actor. Many a successful stand-up album. The Blake album, Stuffed Boy, live from the pandemic. Some successful voicemail albums. Todd Glass to Blake Wexler. We started on Billboard. Please welcome the hilarious, the chaotic. He's riding

a recumbent bike in short shorts and his plumpers are on full display. It's Blake Wexler! Hey, hey, this is Blake Wexler, a.k.a. The Birthday Bay, a.k.a. Born Bjorg, a.k.a. The Flat Birther, a.k.a. Age Against the Machine, a.k.a. The C-Section Star. the birthday bae aka born björg aka the flat birther aka age against the machine aka the

c-section star it's great to be here i turned 34 yesterday oh hey yesterday congratulations yeah three days ago whatever yeah i'm riding it out yeah right hell yeah on the recumbent bike you're a c-section baby, the C-section star baby. That's me. Look at that. That'll be trademarked by Monday. Mama said cut it out. Tight.

Get this thing. Get it out of my body. The belly of the beast. Yeah. As it's colloquial referred to. Yeah, thanks for having me, you guys you guys hey thanks for being here blake how are you holding up after uh the philadelphia eagles you probably heard about this did lose in the super bowl it came across my radar and i am journaling and handling this in a very mature way just because they lost one game doesn't mean all

the nice memories from along the way absolutely are invalidated yeah the real super bowl ring is the friends we made along the way i agree and it's it's a ring of friendship and we're all holding hands uh around one or one holding call just because you lost another horse poop yeah it doesn't mean you can't eat the poopoo anyway yeah i can't i couldn't agree more it's there what did horses go away just because we lost the super bowl they're still around they're still exactly losing shitting on our streets and someone has to do something about this it's true clean it losing the super bowl does not make the horse poopoo any less delicious so I agree. Or more delicious.

Before we get to any of that shit, though, Amy, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? I like that you call the rest of your show shit. That bullshit. That's good. Real professional stuff. Thanks for tuning in again. Before we get to all the bullshit.

Let's see. Well, this weekend I'll be in Oregon. My Portland show is sold out, but there's still some tickets for Salem. And if you're crazy, McMinnville, a lovely little town, you can go to a winery and then see some comedy. Yeah, both about an hour

outside Portland. So I got you guys covered. And then a couple weeks i'll be in alameda in the east bay at the alameda comedy club and then i have a new clip up on youtube i haven't seen it because i don't want to look at the comments but i hear it's great so you should watch it give it a thumbs up i did. I was at the show, so I remember it. But yeah, give it a thumbs up. Maybe leave a nice comment. I don't know.

I don't know what's going on over there. But yeah. And my whole special is up on YouTube, too, if you want to see more. And go to amymillercomedy.com for dates. They're going to say moi. If you want to see moi. If you want to see moi, come see me live. So your search history is just amy

miller stuff no i've gotten so much better i'm really growing up i can't i just can't be bothered with what people are although i was on the new york times tiktok yesterday i okay i encourage people to see this because it's maybe the dumbest piece of media about comedy I've ever seen in my life. Like, it's just about what water bottles people have on stage. It's like the most inane. That's hard hitting journalism. I don't know what you're talking about. And then I did read some of those comments because, you know, TikTok comments are hilarious a lot of the time.

Like, even if you're getting roasted, you're like, these kids are so fucking funny. But, you know, there were people that were just like, why aren't people using reusable water bottles? I'm like, I just took the bottle that they handed me at the taping. I didn't call ahead to Comedy Central. Like, I'm'm gonna need a clean canteen on stage it's just it's the most insane thing it's literally just about water and comedy dude are they trend chasing are they like i feel like they just like gave one kid like a tiktok assignment and he was like what about this right it's like he doesn't

know anything about stand-up but he just noticed that we have water bottles sometimes and has a bottled water company ever reached out to you and been like we would love you to influence for on our behalf because that kind of makes sense sense. It seems like the advertising community falling down on the job. Yeah, maybe it's happened to other people. I might not be famous enough. Or according to this piece, I don't drink enough water maybe

because they do clip out like the Robin Williams special where he has like 17 bottles of water on stage. And they're like, some comedians move around a lot and they get really thirsty i'm not exaggerating this piece by the way but i don't move at all so i think one bottle is probably good for the whole half hour there you go i don't know it's wild you have to go check it out i mean no wonder these these teens are so depressed about climate change because all these comedians are not using reusable water bottles. They're just chugging 17 bottles of water on stage, throwing them away.

And look what it's done to our planet. I can't hear for a good time, Amy, not to watch you destroy the planet Earth. Well, what's wild is in the last six months i've been doing a new bit about plastic bottles and i'm like oh you caught me you caught me too early with this clip let me let's do a follow-up in a couple months when that's when that's been taped so wild the new york town tiktok needs to get up on their shit i'm disappointed and they're really trying all right what is something you think is overrated uh radical honesty like okay i don't know that i think i think that we can sometimes like put a lot of value on being like honest for the point of being on for the

sake of being honest and like i don't i'm fine with white lies and like i would honestly rather have someone be nice to me. I'd rather have you be nice. I don't, I don't like when people have a personality, like I just tell it like it is. And they're just mean. Yeah.

I'm not into it. I think it's overrated. Yeah. It's a lot. It's a lot of energy to be around those. Yeah. Yeah. For your little experiment,

I have to like just gird myself for like the most uncomfortable 30 minutes of my life you know like that exactly yeah it's it's it can be pretty selfish right yeah yeah exactly it's like you're that yeah you're kind of pushing that on someone else without necessarily their consent or they're asking for it i love it in small doses though oh me too, me too. I don't think I could pull it off as a lifestyle, like a 24-hour lifestyle. But this kind of came up when we were talking. There's that The Cut article about new rules of etiquette. And one of them was like,

don't tell people who you think they look like. That's a perfect example. That is great advice for you. However, if you have a lookalike about me, I want to know what it is desperately, even though I'm not going to like it. I like that is an amazing little glimpse into like how people see you when they first see you that like you'll never be able to get other than that way. And it's like uncomfortable and I don't want to know it all the time. But I also have no idea like how people perceive me. So like somebody who's practicing radical honesty, it's good to like get get next to them for 15 minutes if you're in the mood, you know. What is is there one that sticks out in your mind of like a look like that you got that

that made you happy? John Mayer made me happy. That's a good one. And then Walton Goggins made me unhappy. I got Walton Goggins. Right. Sometimes it's a big ego boost and other times it's crushing. I'm like, oh, I don't want to be.

I changed my whole life once someone told me that I was a Walton Goggins guy. It's irreparable damage. And I think it's that thing of like you remember the bad comments so much more than the good ones. It's like one radically honest comparison to somebody you don't want to look like. And yeah, you're on a whole new life trajectory. Walton Goggins is not a bad looking guy or anything. No. It was just like the, it was a character that this person was like saying, oh my God, you so remind me of them.

And like, you look exactly like them. And it just wasn't my favorite. Well, I don't see it. Oh my God. Thank you so much. I need to Google Walter Goggins. I bring this up every episode now just so people can from like vice principals and I think justify.

Oh, OK. This guy. OK. Yeah. Yeah. I see. Good name, though. Great.

Goggins. Amazing name. Yeah. Like such a Civil War soldier who like died on the battlefield. Just incredible. Was born to die on the battlefield just incredible was born to die on the battlefield like a civil war battle and this is all getting edited out but it's good it's good it allows me to get to know you better mason mason what's something you think is underrated uh elastic in waistbands and socks okay because like it was i i found out

recently it was invented in like the 30s and 40s and i can't imagine waking up every day and having to tie my underwear on and clip on sock garters and there's like nothing better than i like tall socks and like that feeling when you have a sock pulled all the way up is just awesome and i just feel like i haven't appreciated that enough yeah it's just that they invented a thing that hugs you. Yeah. And we take it for granted. But like, you know, it wasn't that long ago in the 30s and 40s when underwear literally had button and tie buttons and ties on it. Yeah.

It's amazing. It seems unthinkable. These are my regular suspenders and these are my underwear suspenders. And yeah. Yeah. Everything is just held up by a series of clips yeah that's amazing the 30s and like before that yeah you see a lot of belts and strange undergarments that look like you are in traction like underneath your clothing yeah yeah it also

makes probably a little down the road for for, but it makes getting your kids dressed much easier. Getting kids dressed must have been a nightmare. Like that's why they just all wore like a burlap sack back in the day. What, Perry, what is something that you think is underrated? I'm also going to go with a clothing item. OK, so and I came to appreciate it recently because I just turned 50 a few months ago. And I remember back probably when I was Mason's age, somebody said, never skimp on anything that separates you from the earth. And I've realized recently that shoes

and good shoes are way underrated. I want a shoe that like when I take it off at the end of the day, I don't feel like my back and my feet and my legs are going to, you know, killing me. But, you know, I would maybe generalize and just say anything that separates us from the ground. Did an electrician tell you that? Whether that's a mattress. Exactly. Grounded. No, I think it was somebody that had way more money than me and he was talking

about like why he bought a really expensive car so he was justifying that he's like anything that separates me from the earth i'm going to spend a lot of money on so that it's it's reliable but i i come to appreciate it with just like shoes i just wanted shoes that don't hurt i just lost a sneaker auction this morning, so I agree with you. Trying to get those Jordan 3s. The 3s. The 3s. The white cement 3s that they dropped on my ass.

I saw that. I saw that and I was like, I ain't even gonna try this shit. Superduser Justin got him. Oh, Justin got him? Superduser Justin gets every... He's the only person I know who actually gets, like, wins these sneaker. Oh, Justin.

I'm going, Justin, what's your address, man? I'm going to be over here for you. Yeah. You're just going to need to wear 14 pairs of socks because he wears, like, five sizes bigger than any of us. I love it. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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And, you know, Muhammad Aziz and Khalil Islam were cleared because there were just so much evidence that they, again, were not there that day. Weren't present for murder. Weren't present for murder. Meaning they were in jail during the event, allowing law enforcement agencies to murder Malcolm X, which like does sound like how police forces seem to operate. Sounds very familiar. Yeah. Like falsely accused and in prison somebody so that, you know, like, again, the details aren't all there about like police officers walked up and like pulled the trigger. But it seemed like they were told this was going to happen. They didn't stop it. They arrested, according to this letter from an NYPD officer who was like, yeah, just wait till I'm dead and then you can you can release this.

But they arrested parts of his security team that would make it difficult for him to be murdered. And then when it happened, this officer threatened to resign. But his supervisors told him that they would charge him with false crimes if he did, which, again, seems to be their M.O. in this case. So, yeah, it's it's a mess. So, yeah, it's it's a mess. I just I remember when the article came out about two of the three assassins being cleared due to like all of this evidence, the New York Times article just like really seeming weird to me because like so it contains the sentence. Nor did it uncover a police or government conspiracy to murder him. But then later it says, Mr. Vance's reinvestigation conducted with the Innocence Project and the officer office of David Chani's, a civil rights lawyer, contended with serious obstacles. Many of those involved in the murder case, including witnesses, investigators and trial lawyers, as well as other potential suspects, died long ago.

witnesses investigators and trial lawyers as well as other potential suspects died long ago key documents were lost to time and physical evidence such as murder weapons were no longer available to be tested which again like just that's super convenient for the police to lose all that shit yeah they are the custodians of that evidence right like, like, lost to time. Like, will somebody in time lost them? It's just lost to time. We're going to go ahead and blame time on this one, Tess. Well, you know, as what happens in Marvel movies, a portal opens up, and then the evidence gets lost in the space-time continuum,

and, yeah, I know it happens. And then, so, I know it happens. And then, so, on top of all this shit, there's this part of the New York Times article that's, like, buried down, you know, five, six paragraphs down. Prosecutors' notes indicate they failed to disclose the presence of undercover officers in the ballroom at the time of the shooting.

And police department files revealed that a reporter for the New York Daily News received a call the morning of the shooting indicating Malcolm X would be murdered. So there was somebody who was like, hey, this is happening. They had undercover officers there in like in the ballroom and managed to like convict two people who weren't even there somehow and like didn't disclose that they were present for it like i don't know a lot about how undercover officerism works but you're an undercover officer you're in a ballroom somebody dies don't you then like out yourself as a police and start

investigating the situation right away right if you're surprised Unless you're the murderer. Right. Yeah. It's very suspicious. I'm glad that she's bringing this case. And yeah, I don't know. We'll see where it leads. Probably not in the New York Times. At least not until there's like irrefutable reporting but so that's i think i don't know hopeful news that people will

continue to like get to the bottom of this shit may justice be served yeah in uh well speaking of served starbucks has a new secret weapon and it's olive oil. That was the best transition. That was a serve, honestly. Yeah. Talking about justice being served in the assassination of Malcolm X and then turning it over to Starbucks. Yeah, that's great. It was a transition as smooth as olive oil. As olive oil blended into your coffee, which is apparently a thing that Howard Schultz saw some Italian people doing in Italy and was like, that, we're going to do that. And it's my idea, essentially. Supposedly, the olive oil creates a velvety, smooth, rich texture with the buttery, round flavors imparted by the olive oil, pairing with the soft chocolatey notes of the

coffee i don't know which coffee they're talking about there because i've not tasted many soft chocolatey notes in starbucks coffee rarely soft hard cigarette butt would be my favorite hard burnt ass cigarette butt maybe like if you Have you ever accidentally eaten, like, just the darkest unsweetened chocolate that, like, you can't... Like, your mouth just revolts and, like, just starts spitting it out like that? I can see that maybe a little bit, but I don't think of them as soft chocolatey notes

by any stretch. Well... Maybe they're talking about the Frappuccino? Mm. Yeah, yeah. The mocha. They're soft and chocolatey when you put just a shitload of chocolate ice cream. Five pumps of chocolate syrup.

Soft. Yes. So Howard Schultz, visionary, in his third term as the CEO of Starbucks. This is the thing that like these CEOs who like luck into having great success and then, you know, leave and people start treating them like human beings again. And then they're like, actually, the person who I picked to succeed me is a maniac and I'm going to come in and take that job back over. So he's in his third spell as the CEO. But we need him because, as he said, this is a transformational moment for the company, which they will bring together an alchemy of nature's finest ingredients.

I mean, that's poetry. An alchemy of nature's finest ingredients. Here's what I will say. And let me preface this by saying that I don't know anything about cooking or making food or anything that you can consume. I'm famously very, very bad at it, but I am really good at eating food and enjoying. One of the best. Thank you. And enjoying tasty food. I don't see how the flavor of olive oil could. I just I feel like it wouldn't complement the soft chocolatey notes of coffee. Right. Like of a good coffee. And maybe I'm very for it. I'm going to be honest. I'm here for it. If I see olive oil in a dessert at a restaurant, I'm always going to choose that dessert. I actually love... I had a gelato in Italy that was lemon, olive oil, basil, and I still think about it. Oh, my God. Your bougie bona fides right now are just spiking. i'm telling you i'm sorry this is who i am

i love an olive oil dessert i love an olive oil consumed one in italy even no this was an option for like for drinks for for desserts yeah yeah i mean i think because it's not like salty but it kind of gives you that savory note that you want with a little something sweet. And when that bulletproof coffee trend happened, I love trendy stuff, so I tried that for a while. And

the butter and coffee combo, I kind of dug. A little bit of fat in your coffee is kind of nice. Yeah. Milk shouldn't be the only fat that we're going to consume in our coffee. Yeah. We should be putting ice cream also. Yes.

Thank you. Finally, someone's at it. Yeah. I actually have done that where I didn't have any, because I'm a big old baby. Also, I think everyone's just learning that I am actually really bad at eating food and I have horrible taste. I'm actually really bad at eating food and I have horrible taste, but I love the like whatever brand like coffee made like liquid non-dairy coffee creamers that are just like so sweet. And it's like not even real.

It's like chemicals made in a lab, but I, that's how I have to drink my coffee adding so much of that. But I didn't have any of that one time and, but I did have vanilla ice cream. So I just added a bunch of vanilla ice cream to my coffee how was it and it was brave of me thank you so that is here so many temperatures in one cup i was yeah was it good yeah was it good no it didn't well because it's not as good as the the coffee mate is just like molecularly structured to the second like a drop like enters the coffee.

It immediately mixes at the perfect rate. You know, exactly. Beautiful. It's that and climate change. Like we really have to trust the scientists. Yeah. I don't know. I like I lost my nerve on coffee mate. I was drinking so much coffee mate for a long time. And then I was just like, I have this is probably bad for me.

My insides are so fucked up right now. Oh, my God. I can't stop. Teeth started falling out. Yeah, it's but it is. I can't stop. My teeth started falling out. Yeah. But it is good. Well, I like my coffee black, which is why I'm even entertaining the notion of the olive oil thing. Because that's about as sweet as I'll take it.

But my dad, Caitlin, used to mix. He used to scramble eggs. Your dad's name is Caitlin? Sorry. Yeah, my dad, Caitlin. He used to scramble that coffee mate stuff in with our eggs. Which sounds really fucking gross. But it's actually because you know how it tastes good when you get a little bit of maple syrup on your eggs.

Yeah. OK. It's like that. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it like turned them into like a cloudy, like cotton candy style. Like, you know, just because there's, like, so much scientific engineering in that. That, like, you just, like, heat that and suddenly it turns into the alien spaceship from Nope. It's just, like, this beautiful, like. Yeah. Wow.

I won't try that. But I admire your dad, Caitlin's bravery. Yeah. So, shout out to my dad, Caitlin. It's tough to tell if it's your dad's name is caitlin or if you have multiple caitlins in your life and there's the dad caitlin and then the other caitlins just based on how you were saying it but can it be both yeah i mean this is based on a an actual italian trend that that harold schultz saw and so so like it's probably it probably can be good you know it's just this doesn't seem to be the coffee to know i think you're right though

like you're right starbucks are not the right hands for this like i would trust it at intelligentsia even though i do think intelligentsia is very overrated i would trust olive oil coffee more in their hands. Intelligentsia seems about right for you. Just based on what we've heard. I said it's overrated! I admire the consistency and specificity of your tastes. When is Coffee Bean going to step up their game and start putting, I don't coffee bean no one ever talks about coffee bean is what i'm saying everyone's like oh starbucks this starbucks that yeah it's so true and i feel like coffee bean because i think they peaked in 2006 like every

celebrity was always getting coffee bean in 2006 yeah And then they fell into a portal. That's what happened. God bless Dunkin' Donuts. Yeah. Ben Affleck. I'm living for that, by the way. I'm so here for all of that partnership. Yeah.

It's cute. It is. I kind of fell off Ben Affleck for a minute until he got back together with jlo and duncan oh man he should not fight his roots yeah but they uh just with regards to the you know exchange of ideas between starbucks and italy as a nation. Like, Starbucks takes their ideas. Italy does not want to take any of Starbucks. They flopped big time over there. So, anyways.

I can't imagine. Yeah. Why would you ever go to Starbucks in Italy? Right. It's truly, like, you just want to see all of the American tourists in Italy. You go to the Starbucks. But yeah, it's like shocking to see a Starbucks in another country, I feel like.

All right. Russell Crowe is the Pope's exorcist. So prepare. It's about time. Thank you. Thank goodness. So the trail dropped. I recommend, I mean, i actually don't like you you

could totally miss this i will tell you the important thing is that he does say if you have a problem with me take it up with my boss the pope but there's also so like our writer jm kind of did a dive into this because this is based on a real character as like all the exorcism movies are like this based on actual events in the spookiest year 1987 the and this person is like a real like he created the nba of exorcists. They've got a team? Yeah. It's like the official league of... Let me see if I can find the name

of it. You've got to be a certified exorcist. The League of Extraordinary Exorcists. Yes. Exactly. In addition to being Pope John Paul II's number one bottom bitch exorcist, he is also like a like a right wing political commentator in real life he has blasted the evils of night clubs harry potter and yoga which he claims yoga i'll read some direct quotes for you

from from this man practicing yoga brings evil as does reading harry potter they may both seem innocuous but they both deal with magic and that that leads to evil. Yoga is the devil's work. You think you are doing it for stretching your mind and body, but it leads to Hinduism. All these oriental religions are based on the false belief of reincarnation. In Harry Potter, the devil is at work in a cunning and crafty way. He is using his extraordinary powers of magic and evil. And then this is my favorite. My advice to young people would be to watch out for nightclubs because the path is always the same. Alcohol, sex, drugs, and satanic sects. Sex and sects.

Yeah, sex sects. Sex and sects. Yeah, sex sects. That path is always the same. I feel shorthanded because I've been to a nightclub. I've done three of those things and never got invited to the satanic sects. Seriously, I've done all of these things. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing.

Nothing. Nothing. Always the same. Can I just say, so his name is father gabriel amorth amorth which sounds to me you know in like exorcism movies where someone's being possessed and then like the demon or the devil is speaking through the body that they're possessing. And they're like, like, Jessica isn't here anymore. This is a more.

Yeah. It sounds like his name. There is no Jessica, only a more. If you would like to leave a message for Jessica, though, just, just let me know. A more.

Yeah. A more is definitely the name of one of the Dementors from Harry Potter. I think that's why his feelings were hurt by Harry Potter. It just feels like the most

evil name possible. Exactly. Maybe that's the M. Night Shyamalan twist at the end, though, is that they need an exorcist for the exorcist. Tess, did you see the trailer? Because that seems to be what's at stake. They're like, if the Pope's exorcist gets possessed by the devil, Western civilization falls, type shit. Wow, that's beautiful. type shit so wow that's beautiful yeah i was i was thinking what if he yeah he's he's a he's possessed and that's why he's so good at exorcisms because he's like a demon talking to other demons

yeah he's like i i need you all to leave the room it's like perform this exorcism just like that like angel or blade like they're like vampires are part vampires and that's why they're so good at like their job they they know the mo takes one of the people exactly yeah hey cop and criminal are one in the same it's yeah it all goes back the cops are evil that's right a cab includes the Pope's exorcist. Exactly. I also love how like there's just rampant, not love,

but like there's rampant pedophilia going on in this organization for decades and they think Harry Potter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and then also like, of course it's like,

yeah, then there's progressive people that have issues with the Harry Potter. It reminds me of that thing of like, yeah, we all agree the government's messed up. Which way are you talking about? Right. Yeah.

Yeah. The, yeah, they have to make up satanic sects in order to distract from what they're doing. Exactly. Yeah. All right.

Well, the Pope's exorcist is coming to a theater near you. Will probably be seen by way too many people. I'm going. I'm going to an AMC. Are we going to have to be anti-horror movie podcast now? I don't want to, but I think Jamie one time was on here and was talking about the Conjuring movies being based on just the the worst humans yes they're like really yeah creepy yeah she knows more about it than i do but yeah it's just it's always bad but i mean it makes sense though like have you guys met anyone that like you would think dabbles and exorcism were conjuring? Yeah, my best friend. Yeah?

I mean, dabbles? We all dabble a little bit. We're all kind of part-time exorcists. Yeah. I've dabbled in the satanic sect. But like to throw yourself into it as the career. Yeah, exactly.

I dabble in satanic sex. S-E-X. Yeah. 6-6-6-9. It's all in together, you know. It's just a big stew of good times. I'm just saying that if I make that my full

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Yeah, that's my business. And that's the cliffhanger. Yeah. Do they find them? What was your favorite block in the Tetris universe? Because there's Flatboy, who is just a total flat. Flatboy is my favorite. Well, Flatboy was the most badass one

because you always set your shit up for flat boy exactly if you can just get that flat boy right in that what a feeling that to me that was the first time i fucked yeah yeah the sexual like undertones of this conversation are revealing a lot to me about like why i was so into flat boy yeah Yeah. You put that flat boy, like right in that crevice and you're like, Oh yeah. The whole thing goes all at once. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And that's like kind of how I've organized my life since then is like, just like build up a bunch of shit and then like hope for a big payoff. It all comes together at the last second. Oh no. The flat boy didn't come i'm just just fucking waiting for that flat just piles and piles of oh no where's the flat boy my whole professional career as well has been put backing myself into a corner and praying that something a one out of a million chance would happen will happen and so far not so good no flat boys many a washed up comedian is sitting on a park bench that they

live on right now going i just never got a flat boy i just needed that flat someday my flat someday my flat boy will come so it sounds like it has less in common with that pitch that you just made. I feel like that was also kind of what they went with for battleship. I think they were like, okay, so we got to do battleship. Let's aliens come and you got to sync them by guessing with our battleships. Yeah, that one was... There's pixels that also have like... A swing and a mixed.

Yeah, a swing and a mixed. Yeah, some people liked it. So this is more... This has more in common with Argo and the new Air Jordan movie where it's like international intrigue. Ben Affleck's directing it. Well, Ben Affleck is directing the Air Jordan invention movie,

and they wish Ben Affleck was directing this because it does feel like they were like, what if Argo, where the stakes were Game Boy? Yeah. Instead of the freeing hostages, the stakes were you get to play Tetris on the Game Boy. It's not about the Russian inventor of the freeing hostages the stakes were you get to play tetris on the game boy it's not about the russian inventor of the game so much as it is about the dutch video game designer who bought

it and introduced it to western audiences he has to like travel behind the iron curtain in order to like get so get the rights to the theme to to their anthem? Because isn't that their national anthem that's playing in the... I thought that was a Russian national anthem. I think it was. You can see that very easily. Entirely possible. And then it starts speeding up as the blocks start falling faster. Which taught us to, you know, be wary.

Stalin just got a gun to the audience faster. You'll never get a flat boy. Yeah. Yeah, actually, the Russian version, there is no flat boys. Yes. Yeah. They're all equally sized. Yeah. Yeah.

yes yeah yeah they're all equally sized yeah yeah but it's the story of like him basically licensing tetris seems to be the sounds fun yeah i like that i like contract law in every movie that i can it reminds me of this like analysis that Malcolm Gladwell, my king, the only person who I go to when it comes to intellectual discourse. Yes. Recommendation on private jets to take. Absolutely. Yeah. He was on the low lead express flight logs. But he did do he did do a story about like he he likes to read those CEO biographies.

He likes to read those CEO biographies. And he's like, when you actually look at how they tell the story, it's like this heroic, singular CEOs, heroes journey through like the heart of darkness to like everybody tells me can't do it. And it's only his idea. And like he, you know, triumphs over evil to increase shareholder value or whatever the fuck. And like when you actually look at what they do, it's just, you know, like a series of very mundane and predatory decisions that they make. They find one thing that they can exploit and then exploit it over and over and over again until they're billionaires. It's just like very rote and mechanical and like uninteresting but they find ways like there's a whole section of your local bookstore that is these retconned stories that like turn the narrative of how this person built a

unnatural immoral amount of wealth like it turned it into like a hero's journey. And that's what this sounds like. Like the guy did have to go back, like make friends with the inventor of Tetris and, you know, get get interrogated by some Soviet diplomats. But in the end, they were like, we kind of like this guy. We'll we'll let him have the have the rights because that's how business works. And they're turning it into like this spy thriller where he like steals it. You know, he's this. I imagine because there's sometimes there's a premise so boring that you're like, well, if they're making it, it's got to be good.

Right. Right. You know what I mean? Because there's not the only thing that's holding it together at this point is the ip of tetris which they i mean maybe we live in that world now where that uh it alone is enough to sell the movie but i i can't imagine that it's not like really good like at least as a script like it's like oh no this is a fun thing because we're missing something we're missing because there's definitely something there there's no way it can't be that it sounds can't be as bad as it sounds right it sounds so boring dog i mean i would say that about like movies where the thing

is getting made for with no IP attached. But this, I feel like probably... There's been rumors of a Tetris movie for a number of years, and I feel like the assignment came before this premise. They were like, all right, Tetris is a thing that everybody cared about. I've never been so aware that my brain was being rewired as I was like I don't know

what it did to it but like when I would play Tetris on the Game Boy and then like close my eyes eight hours later and I would see Tetris I would see Tetris and I would play Tetris in my head and I'd be like this can't be healthy I certainly have other thoughts like I'm hungry yeah

like the it's that being on a boat and skiing are the only things that have ever like rewired things so much that like i close my eyes and i can't undo whatever that did to my brain yeah yeah yeah no it's but but but the thing is is they're definitely taking multiple pitches you know they're taking a lot of pitches with this Tetris IP. And so I imagine for them to choose the most boring sounding one that they're like, oh, no, this is this. There's something there. Yeah. Yeah.

It feels like they're doing a clean sweep through my child. Like Mario is coming out in like six months, then Tetris. sweep through my child. Like Mario is coming out in like six months, then Tetris. It's just like a clean sweep through like the things that I cared about at age seven to eight, you know? Yeah.

They're just coming through. I'm trying to think if there's going to be guns and roses. Weird Al Yankovic just had a movie. That was one that was big for me at that period. What actor is going to play Crash Bandicoot? Do you think? That's the question. Is it Giamatti?

Yeah. Is he going to take that too yeah sorry what were you gonna say blake i don't i don't remember but i think it was oh no i do so i believe there was like maybe as a someone who wants to come off as intelligent and fails almost unilaterally but i remember there was one movie i don't remember the name of it but it sounded so fucking boring and it won all these awards all every smart person was like this is a genius movie and ever since then i'm like i'm not going to be tricked again if a movie sounds boring it must be to what matt was saying it must be a brilliant film so i will not go out on a on a limb and say this will be bad because i can't be fooled again i won't be

publicly fooled about this but it's gonna suck well what's the movie you're referring to specifically you know what would be make great podcasting is if i remember the name of it but unfortunately you remember you don't even remember what happened in it yeah you just remember the sensation of being like that's's going to be boring as shit. Was it the constant gardener? Because we've talked about this. We've talked about the constant gardener. Sounds boring as shit, but it's not at all about constantly gardening.

Yeah. It's not about somebody who just is really into gardening. No, it's about like, what the fuck was that about? There's like a pharmaceutical company. UN stuff? Yeah, pharmaceutical. Yeah, I don't know. Intrigue's happening in Africa. It's in Africa somewhere. And there's this song that's like a pharmaceutical. UN stuff. Yeah. Pharmaceutical. Intrigues happening in Africa is it's in Africa somewhere.

And there's this song that's like, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

I knew we were going to end up. I'm in. I knew we were going to end up with this story. Singing called Bureau. That song fucking rules. Sing this song from all right so i'm gonna keep talking but i want you to do that under me talking i think that's gonna like give kind of a fun like it's making a spiritualist vibe i think the thing that i object to is the hero of this story is not like a person. It is just a lawyer story of capitalism as it happened. Like, I don't know. It's a bummer. country where the mainstream media treats the destruction of a 7-11 front window as more serious

than the like violence done to black bodies so like it makes sense to me that this is just like where they think our values are and maybe they're right but it's just i don't know human stories used to be bigger than like story of how tetris got licensed and yet you know if if somebody told me that this end this ends up being really good i wouldn't be shocked i guess yeah i mean here's the thing brands is all we got now dog thank you like thank you wake up and smell the folgers coffee specifically and And or blue bottle. Yeah. You know, because the brands, there are overlords.

Liberal blue bottle. Yeah. Liberal blue bottle. You know, like the brands are, they are our overlords. They are our bosses. They are. Our signifiers. There are signifiers i drink black

rifle coffee to let people know brother but exactly to let people i know i finish sentences or i respond to people finishing sentences by saying fuck yeah brother yeah exactly i mean you know it's a way uh it's your lifestyle It's everything is brands here. So, you know, you got to get with it. Start, you know, brand, brand. You got to get brand, brand. Brand, brand. Brand, brand. I got brand, brand.

And I'm cool with brands now. That's right. Another brand story. Brand, brand. Feels like it's working from the same currency of like, what if people do thing to branch? And by the way, we are recording this on friday so if important news has happened over the weekend doesn't matter nothing's important it's the same shit ever talk about it anyway another spy balloon okay yeah i also just realized we're off on monday

so oh man yeah sorry if yeah if we've missed a bunch but but we're talking about dumb shit. This is going to be great. Nobody wants to work anymore. Nobody wants to work. And that is what we're talking about. Nobody wants to work anymore. Thank you, Blake. There's also the Winnie the Pooh horror movie that we talked about. It was basically Winnie the Pooh's copyright lapsed after a hundred

years after the first oh so they can so anyone it's up for grabs it is but it's only the first book which only included piglet and winnie the pooh no so no tigger no tigger it's it's seinfeld without kramer so yes okay tigger was kramer that's true yeah that's airtight yeah no red shirt because that was actually a disney addition to the branch so okay it was just butt naked what if he has a blue shirt yeah i mean could be but so basically a uk filmmaker who until recently worked for an electricity supplier full time while making micro budget horror films on the side happened upon this idea and realized that the Winnie the Pooh copyright was going to lapse. Made this movie. It's called Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey.

It is. I'm OK with this, actually. Apparently, it's very bad. It's apparently not good. Well, I mean. apparently it's very bad it's apparently not good well i mean people are saying it's amateurish sloppy and quote embarrassingly bad but this is who who's saying that yeah critics film scientists or some shit but it depends which ones because at this point it like i wouldn't be surprised if all the like the ones that are like marvel the ones

who are bought out basically yeah are just like disney told us to say it was bad right yeah yeah the same filmmakers are also working on horror takes on bambi and peter pan so it feels like this is the opposite side of the coin of like hero's journey where the hero is the acquisition of the rights to distribute tetris on game boy this is the opposite where it's like the ultimate violence that you can do in our like cultural mindscape is to make winnie the pooh a real edgelord sick fuck yeah you know like this is the ultimate meaning yeah winnie the shit yeah we're not saying poo no more we're using swears dog i feel like this is a bummer because like i think there could have been an interesting horror movie based on the fact that first of all each character in

the winnie the pooh universe definitely definitely represents a different, like, mental imbalance. Sure, sure. So there's something interesting there. There's also... So Pooh is a glutton. Eeyore is depressed. Pooh just seems high. Eeyore suffers from depression.

Piglet definitely suffers from, like, anxiety. Like, chronic anxiety. Tigger is a tweaker. Yeah, or, you know, he's, like, just manic. ADHD. Oh, yeah or you know he's like just manic adhd oh yeah that's true he's probably manic kramer so yeah kramer yeah but and then there's also like the idea so i guess the premise of this is that christopher robin returns to the hundred acre wood like as an adult and like poo and piglet have gone feral and like murdered all the other characters and like this idea of like children's imaginary imaginary friends and like the

imagination of children like that like being abandoned like that that is examined to great effect in like Inside Out and Toy Story three and four like the toys being abandoned but never dying and just like existing perpetually at the bottom of like a landfill stuck in place yeah is like dark and interesting and has been handled well but this feels like they just like turned it into an exploitation film it's like a few degrees away from just doing parody porn, which I think is fine. You know, if you're going to,

if you never said anything else yet. Yeah. There's nothing wrong. I'm, I'm great friends with people who make the best parody porn over at wood rocket. They do great. They did the Simpsons porn.

They did. What are they do? Rugrats, which is a strange choice, but it wasn't, they weren't hard to do. Yeah. Hard to do, but I thought it was a high wire act. Rugrats, which is a strange choice, but it wasn't, they weren't. That was hard to do. Yeah, hard to do, but I thought it was. It was a high wire act.

Right, but it was a brave choice. So, but, you know, so like making the, you know, lapsed IP, you know, horror film of child thing seems like, okay, have you considered making a sketch? Right. Try that first. Do it, start with a sketch. Yeah. How long does this have to be yeah you do get the sense that they were asking that as they set out to make this movie like how long does it like for a feature how long how long we talking here yeah yeah we're talking 10 minutes to get a distribution.

So I'm going to start with a number and you tell me if it's higher or lower. Six? Seven? Eight? Okay. Well, surely it can't be nine. Not me. 10? Jesus Christ.

11? Kill my son. We're going to be here all day. Oh, no. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist please like and review the show if you like

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