The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 264 (Best of 2/27/23-3/3/23)

Episode Date: March 5, 2023

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 264 (2/27/23-3/3/23)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.

Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeart on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist uh these are some of our favorite segments from this week all edited together into one uh non-stop infotainment laugh extravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the author of the new book,

Overthinking About You, about the intersection of dating and mental health. You know her from Just Between Us. It's the brilliant and talented allison raskin oh what's up thank you for having me i did not know any of that about the minions yeah oh my god what i haven't seen a single one i haven't seen a despicable me i haven't seen a single one. I haven't seen A Despicable Me. I haven't seen a Minion movie. I don't know about this rich history. Oh, there's so much going on. And troubling. It's contradictory. Jack, have you seen them all because of your kids?

Or are you just watching for fun? I have, but not in order. It's like I'll walk in for a scene here and there and but usually like if the kids are watching a movie it's an opportunity to like go get adult things done so but i i've been sucked in for entire chunks of of the main movie what is it what is adult things do you like go watch meet joe black or something just constantly paying bills. Bills stacking up on my desk and then just mailing them out the door with a real

harried look on my face. Yeah, no, I go watch Meet Joe Black. I don't know, that's like the most adult movie I can think of. Got adult things to do, kids. Like the true love between the grim reaper and somebody who met the grim reaper although it's not clear some lady i actually have never seen

meet joe black i just my parents had it and it was two vhs tapes so i was like damn that's grown up hours were you kind of like walking into the room to make sure that they were occupied and then going to do kids stuff was it like a reverse of how i treat my kids you were of like walking into the room to make sure that they were occupied and then going to do kids stuff? Was it like a reverse of how I treat my kids? I needed to make sure I was good to go watch Pinocchio. And you can watch Pinocchio three times in the runtime of Meet Joe Black. True. Meat Joe Black is very long and my dad really loves it. Like has given like he doesn't give me a heartfelt soliloquies about much, but he has been like that Meat Joe Black is a hell of a film. Someone had to say it. He may be the first. Someone did. Allison, how are you doing? Where are you coming to us from? I'm in rainy Los Angeles so no it's

really going on don't know how to function overwhelmed by the wetness it's it's been it's been rough we're just like not we're not built for it and then every time it comes up for like for people who live in cities that get snow they're like oh shut the fuck up you're like okay but it's raining and it's actually really hard for us we're not built for it it just falls apart right away like so it started raining hard friday night and someone immediately like one of the traffic lights in my neighborhood went down a car immediately like sped through that intersection knocked over a like telephone electric pole like knocked out power and internet to our entire neighborhood for the whole weekend this is just just rain just rain yeah my friend had another one where somebody hit a pole and

then she lost power and she had to stay at my house for a night yeah but it's funny that it's not just the weather it's people driving into poles seems to be a main cause of the issue yeah fascinating i didn't see that part coming yeah yeah no just right away there's a a knocked over telephone pole. The trees are getting knocked over, too, which I'm a little confused by. I think just the wind, climate change. I'm not sure. That's what I that's my catchphrase. The wind, climate change. I'm not sure.

That and the Pope is your boss. Yeah, I mean, leave it to the Pope. Pope is going to figure it out. What is something from your search history? And I'll start with you, Rachel. What's something from your search history and i'll start with you rachel what's something from your search history uh something in my search history from today is a recipe for cookie dough stuffed hamantaschen oh which is a type of cookie to celebrate the holiday of purim which is coming

up there you go okay that sounds fancy. Super delicious. Makes me want to text my friend Lior and be like, have you tried it? Would you try it? Is this sacrilegious? Where do you feel? Where are you on the line of like, this is good or this? My grandmother would kill me if she knew. If you tried hamantaschen? If you put cookie dough in hamantaschen. Oh, it's very unorthodox because the base that i'm also doing is a chocolate chip cookie flavored base and so it's a cookie stuffed cookie so uh completely non-traditional yeah i think my my grandmother would love it honestly love that we're talking about a like that pizza hut would eventually have cheese like find a way to stuff cheese into the cheese of their pizza

yesterday. And you have created a similar thought experiment that is breaking my brain right now. So it's like one type of cookie dough stuffed into another cookie. Yeah, it's chocolate chip cookie dough stuffed into essentially a triangular-shaped chocolate chip cookie. This is the greatness of America on display right now. Does the dough get baked? It's unbaked cookie dough. So you bake the cookies and then stuff the unbaked dough inside. It'll all be baked together,

but hypothetically the cookie dough stuffing will stay soft enough. It sounds delicious. I want to liquefy it and shoot it into my arteries. Yeah. I can make that happen for you. I just bought a stethoscope. Just call me Dr. Rachel. Everybody heard that she threatened me with murder.

Did you hear that? Yeah. She just seemed accommodating to me, Victor. That's all I heard. What is something from your search history victor i actually checked something in my search i checked something today so that i could talk about it on the show in my search history so it's recent search history for 10 years straight i am the number one video result when you search for how to draw a penis so if you google how to draw penis my number one video result

is me and then i'm still champion huh there you are are you just drawing up what how did this video come to be the i'll tell you how the video came to be so a long time i i i also like have a production company and so a long time ago i got a deal to do like a whole bunch of art videos where people were drawing on on glass standing and then so i built inside the studio this glass that you could just draw and then so one day i was on the set and i put on a fake mustache and then i uh i i made a character uh and then i taught people how to draw a penis. And I put it online. And it just kind of stuck around.

It's amazing. It's in black and white. So it's very artistic. It's giving the artist for sure. I love this. It's on a dead YouTube channel. Like the dead YouTube channel version is the one that has stuck around forever. And so like my current, it's on my current YouTube channel. The dead YouTube channel version is the one that has stuck around forever.

It's on my current YouTube channel, but it doesn't have half as many views as on this dead channel. The voice you did for it is incredible. Thank you. I can't really hear the voice, but you were taking it very seriously with a very silly mustache. I do break during the

video. I think that's part of the fun because my mustache starts falling off at one point and I start laughing. Wait, you're telling me that's not a real mustache? Sorry to disappoint you. I like that you chose to go for straight hair instead of curly. I feel like everyone's natural instinct is like, I'll do short and curly. But these are just like wispy hairs. Yeah, yeah.

The penis's hair is like kind of yeah, very straight. And I have explanations for all of that stuff too. So if you hear it with sound, you'll know the truth. How to draw a penis, guys. It's amazing. Yeah, it's got to be like

pretty popular, right? I just got so many extra views for that dead channel. That's great. Try to find it on the real channel. Show Victor your support. As of right now, it is at 199,000 views. So maybe

if you're lucky, you could be the 200,000th view. What do they win? An autographed penis drawing from from me after i have studied under the the tutelage of victor fartnado what what is so that channel that channel do you remember uh my damn channel that i did on youtube so yeah they gave me a deal for this channel but then they they like so we started this channel comedy channel and then they just imploded and then so and then

i never found the lot that i never not found but i never got all the login information back so i can't it's just dead it's just broken if we had a dollar for every day every day video channel or uh magazine article. Yeah, I just had to rescue all my stuff from AV Club, so it's fun. It's the life! Truly. What is something you think is overrated, Adam?

Did you guys see that was it the New Yorker the end of the English major thing? I saw it and then I said said i'm not clicking on that yeah it's it's this like so it's like one of those like very you know typical like it's got this scare headline the end of the english major and it's like arizona state university is seeing a decline in people studying english and getting their degrees in English.

Some colleges are saying like, we don't have enough students to necessitate an English program. And it's like, we focus so much on STEM within the last like, five, 10 years that people are not motivated to get their degree in English. And also there's like, that's typical like, get their degree in english and also there's like that's typical like cell phone scare thing of like oh people have cell phones they they don't read books anymore i mean this one professor's like i just got a cell i just got a smartphone and i went from reading five novels a month to one novel a month because i'm reading all these websites and it's like like okay shut up say less people don't want to study english just because of this boring attitude i hate when someone does something boring and then they're like this is news you're like it's not shut up you got a phone

it's not my problem oh my god exactly God. Exactly. And also like lamenting, like I couldn't imagine assigning middle march to to today's English students. And it's like, well, maybe that's fine. Like maybe we do actually need to focus on STEM and we don't need people like going into massive debt to get an English major. like going into massive debt to get an English major. You know what I mean? Like if it's a specialty major or you can't get one at every college, maybe that's not a problem. Well, I don't even think I mean, I'm like I saw some conversation going on around that piece that I would just think when I learn about something on Twitter, I'm like probably safer to not interact with this and never learn what it is. That's sort of my current Twitter policy. But I did see people say like, oh, well, there's also like, it's such a common thing to like, bully people who are like, history or English

majors that like, I would understand why people would be less willing to do it. And also, like you're saying, like less willing to like, if it was more accessible to get an English degree, And also, like you're saying, like less willing to like if it was more accessible to get an English degree and you didn't need to go into six figure debt to do it. I'm sure that more people would want to. But if the price of college is going up, then it makes sense that like it would be more popular to get a degree that you could probably get it like almost certainly get a job in afterwards, which sucks because then it's like, yeah, I don't know. I sort of it is a bad thing i think yeah it's it's bad yeah it's not great yeah like that people are like i'm on my grind i got a major and angel investor venture capital firms or whatever the fuck i just hate the idea that they would blame it on phones it's like okay well if phones are like phones aren't gonna go anywhere so a lot of people are i don't know it's like even like the rise in

popularity and like audiobooks it's like yeah you just need to find a way to consume the same thing that matches people's like consumption habits better right chill out i also think that that's yes chill out professor dork is a t-shirt, I have to say. I'm going to get canceled. That's a great t-shirt. I was a philosophy major, so I don't know anything about useless majors. Yeah. I have my degree in art, so.

Nice. I have my degree in screenwriting. Hot dogs. Did you? Hell yeah. That's actually, that's a trade, though. Philosophy, not so much.

Philosophy majors are all, they're like, you could be a lawyer or you could be a philosophy professor and teach other philosophy majors.

The two genders. Exactly. I consider you to be a philosopher, Jack O'Brien. Oh, that means so much to me. That's true. That's much better than lawyer. I consider you to be a philosopher, Jack O'Brien. Oh, that means so much to me.

That's much better than lawyer. I consider you to be a lawyer, Jack. Thank you so much. A closeted lawyer. You know, I've had boyfriends that have told me that when I argue with them, that I would, they're like, you know, you would make a great litigator, but it's meant to be insulting. Of course.

Yeah. And all men are so bad at arguing with women that they are like, oh, my God. Yeah. What are you talking about? Their defense is, wow, you're really you're winning this argument. Wow. You should be a professional bitch. Maybe. Maybe you should be.

Maybe I will. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? i mean just like sandy's she's just not getting the due that she deserves i think paying it's like just yeah sandy's uh recaps sandy's eagles recaps deserve more than they're getting because they don't have a comment section i think people are just only are interested in parts of the internet where their voices can be heard and not um just reading and learning because here's the internet with our voices can be heard and not just reading and learning. Because here's the thing. At first, like this eagle, Jackie was sitting on the nest

and she was getting pelted with snow. And I was like, oh, God, is she in trouble? And then I Googled and I saw that actually eagles have several layers of feathers that keep them extremely warm and their basic body temperature is 105 degrees and they thrive in snow. And I was like, oh, Temperature is 105 degrees. And they thrive in snow. And I was like, oh, okay. So she's fine. As opposed to being like, somebody help her.

Just Google a fax once. Underrated fax. Why won't somebody do something? I know. Oh, evolution did, it turns out. They always seem to be in fairly inhospitable territory. Yeah. They're like on mountains and shit yeah they live in alaska and stuff they're fine in big bear right yeah but it's all these it's just all la people being like that looks so cold it was 50 here the other day so i can identify i know she doesn't have a fashion scarf. What will she do?

What if the eagle was wearing an infinity scarf? Maybe if she had done that, the eggs would have hatched a little bit faster. Exactly. I do have to give a shout out to the name Shadow because there was a DJ named Shadow Stevens when I was young who did like, he was like adult contemporary Casey Kasem. And that name always stuck with me as like very over the top, but like kind of dope. Like just Shadow Stevens. Shadow. So I'm going to go ahead and say Shadow is an underrated name to give your eagle or child. Or your DJ. Or your DJ, yeah. I think it's an overrated name for a dog

there's a lot of dogs named shadow yes but but what about a son and that that is a powerful i would like to meet more shadows than brashton's going forward so people can you know fix that you really hear the name brashton? Yeah. In the wild. Yelled at a kid in a subway like four years ago. Brashton. And I was like, Brashton? You couldn't decide between Brandon and Ashton? Just, we don't need mashup names.

Overrated mashup names. Just pick one. Stick to your decision. Trust yourself. You're making an indecisive child from the start. Brashton is a very strong decision. That's just like you are like they need to be a snowboarder or a professional surfer or nothing.

That's it. There are certain names where it's just like, well, their fate is sealed, I guess. I guess Shadow would be one of those as well. So maybe I should shut the fuck up on telling people to name their kids Shadow. So is Merlin. Merlin? Man.

You can't just name someone Merlin. They have to be a music teacher or live in the woods. A baby named Merlin is really wild. This is my baby Merlin. I don't hate that idea. But it is a very kind of a scary thing to do to a child. Yeah. Then they just go with Merlin. I don't hate that idea, but it is a very kind of a scary thing to do to a child. Yeah. Then they just go with Merle to like kind of whatever their parents don't want them to do. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back! Yay! We're back! So, this story made me scream, oh good, a technocratic solution.

So, it started like last week, Biden was in Poland. He lauded the country for taking in more than 1.5 million Ukrainian refugees and said, the American people are united in our resolve as well. And people were pointing out that as he was giving that speech, they were also introducing the toughest policies yet aimed at turning away migrants to the United States. And, you know, one of the new rules is meant to replace Title 42, which is set to expire soon. But they were posted online last week and are subject to a 30-day public comment period. But one of the big new things is a requirement for migrants to register using the Customs and Border Patrol smartphone app. And it's just a bad app, as frequently happens when you just open something up to the whole world using it. They launched the app in

January to expedite the process for asylum seekers. It's been a goddamn nightmare because people have recorded countless errors that force users to go through all the steps only to have it crash and restart in a seemingly endless cycle is for some reason this reminded me of did you guys see cory doctorow on um on twitter talking about like this like one he googled like a thai restaurant in his neighborhood you know googled it went to the first result which was the name of the restaurant uh ordered food from it. And the top result was actually a Google ad that was like a cloned website. The entire existence of the company was just to create cloned websites of the restaurant you're looking for and then charge you 15% more.

They'll actually put your order in, but they just skim 15% more than, like, they'll actually put your order in. But they just, like, skim 15% off. Wow. So they just, like, insert themselves into this transaction and, like, find little ways to

fuck you over, get some of your money without providing any service whatsoever i mean you can see of most internet companies though right like even your your amazons which are like no we house like a bunch of like these little independent companies and we're really helping them get seen and sell product and it's like sure but you're taking a large percentage and when returns come they have to like for example if you buy a book on kindle and decide to return it months later which you can do the author then has to pay that money back to amazon right like they don't take any of the brick and mortar like

you know consequences off it's all in the same way that grubhub if you return an order or something's not right with your order they don't pin it on the driver or grubhub the restaurant pays for that yeah it just feels like we are not like the tech is not up to up to what we think it's up to in a lot of cases like it's just yeah yeah i mean i i agree with you but i think what what the biggest is, is that the higher you get up in just like power or whatever, and when people think they know what something is, like the government did not hire the best app developers. That's the real problem because it could have worked if they just hired the right people but somewhere in the government somebody was like my nephew does app development fine we can just do this project what's it's an app it's an app what how much work do we have to do it's

an app my nephew can do it and that's what happened and then it blew up right i was gonna say because canada had a similar thing if you you were flying into Canada from outside of the country during COVID, and I think even now, like you have to scan your vaccination cards and then you have to like sign a bunch of stuff and you have to be vaccinated within X amount of days. And then in order to get on your plane and then pass customs, you have to like show the results of this app that worked pretty well. I guess my, which to me is much more streamlined. It's essentially just, do you have the medical requirements to enter our country as opposed

to this app, which demands people stop in every country they pass on their way to America to be like, hey, can I seek asylum here? And they're like, no, go for it. But we're not working with those countries to like bring in that information into the app and if it's glitchy then i just i can only imagine it causing a lot of headaches for people who are literally fighting for their lives as opposed to me i was just trying to get to toronto for a film festival it seems like maybe something that a half-assed app is not required here. Yeah, and if you're fleeing

a government that is trying to persecute and potentially arrest or kill you, you might not have access to a charged smartphone. The internet. Yeah. The internet, say. You're trying to send messages for help and you can't get rid of the pop-up ads.

And you're like, what? Can you imagine? Yeah, we talked to a security expert at the end of last week and we were talking about ChatGPT and AI and they were like, yeah, the thing that it's actually going to do is just make spam and pop-ups better at tricking you.

That's what it's going to be. And like with all technology, it's all just going to be used to create the lowest denominator ads and make them better at tricking you and stealing your information every new technology is usually adopted by the adult film industry first yeah like and so i wonder what's going i don't know but i wonder what's going on. I don't know, but I wonder what's happening right now. Because something's happening. Someone in porn, let us know. In the pop-up ads on porn sites. Yeah, let us know.

Tell us what's going on. And they're not up to the task when it comes to... This feels just true almost across the board over any considerable period of time. Almost every company has a, like, information leak. Like, one of the CBP subcontractors was hacked in 2019, exposing private information pertaining to thousands of random people. I was just, like, going back through, like, now that I can't have two-factor authentication, like, through the Twitter app, I have to, to like have it through my iphone and like as i was going back through that i was like seeing all of the you know old passwords that i

no longer use but still like they've all been exposed like leaked and you know hacked like within the last like 15 years like every company is exposing your private information like they because there's just like not an overarching incentive structure for them they're just like yeah there's so many of these leaks and these hacks that like we like the the consumer can't keep track of all that shit so we just kind of keep it moving now it's just a notification that i get when i log into t-mobile like they don't even send out emails anymore but when you log into your account there'll just be a notification at the top like some of your information was leaked and i was like oh oh cool t-mobile thanks just know that your information

is in a perpetual state of being leaked thanks yeah exactly yeah at&t same shit like yeah there that's why i suggest to everybody that you don't put anything online that you're not comfortable just you know telling everybody in the world yeah somebody's making lots of money off of me and i want to cut. What? Like they're taking my information and they're making money on it from the data leaks. You want your data slice. Yeah, I want my data slice.

And it's like, I feel like, yeah, but we're all worth fractions of a penny. It's just that like we're one of three billion people who's like information they've they've leaked. And companies can pay me a lump sum up front like I do to use their apps or they can pay me monthly based off of a percentage. I'll take money either way. Totally fine to collect. Is there any technology that hasn't been completely like taken over by like spam or scams or like it i guess like tv hasn't

totally been it's just i mean it's been ruined by advertising but tv is a scam like yeah just like ask miss cleo is on there and do a hair scam this is so it's a gateway scam. Yeah. But all the communication, like the two-way, like phones, email, text, is all just slowly being taken over by, just made unusable at this point. You know what we still have in terms of unbothered two-way communication is PictoChat on the original Nintendo DS. Nice. Yeah. Nice. A classic, for sure. Does that still work? That Nintendo DS. Nice. Yeah. Nice. A classic, for sure. Does that still work?

That's where we met. Yeah. If your system works, it still works. There you go. Yeah. Go to your brick-and-mortar stores. Meet the people you buy things from. It feels good.

It's better. So wait, what is PictoChat on the Nintendo DS? I missed that. I haven't played video games since N64. PictoChat was an app built into all of the original Nintendo DSs and DS lights where it's a two-way communication system, but it's local.

So you have to be within like 20 feet or so of the other user in order for it to work. But you could like text to each other, draw little pictures, but there were no ads on it. So it's for talking shit about teachers, essentially. Exactly.

It was perfect for using in the backseat of a car even. Right. Right. Okay. That makes sense. RIP PictoChat. Now that we've said it, the advertisers are going to seize on it have you

guys seen snowpiercer yeah so like in that movie that just like in the prologue like the news clip montage prologue they're like somebody put it to combat climate, somebody put a chemical into the atmosphere to reflect the sun's rays away from the Earth. And they overdid it. And now the planet is Ice Planet. And the only people who are alive are on this train. And that definitely scared me off of this idea. I'm like, no. definitely scared me off of this idea. I'm like, no. But now the UN is kind of floating it out there again. And there's a really good book, The Ministry for the Future, that is like somebody

who really understands climate change and international geopolitical systems, writing about how the future of climate change could most likely play out and they also like bring this up quite a bit i think the author's name is kim stanley roberts yeah uh the author's name is kim stanley robinson and they're yeah it's a it's a good book it's worth reading and one of the like things that happens in the book is there's like a massive heat wave in India that kills like millions of people and motivates that country to like go rogue and do their own like high atmosphere gas release that actually works to like cool the climate. that people are writing about in news article because new news article uh in news articles uh because like that we're nobody is doing the things that we would need to do to stop polluting the planet enough to have catastrophic climate change and so the solution is to put something in the atmosphere that would act similar to like what a volcanic eruption does which is like you know the global temperature

after a really significant volcanic eruption the global temperature will drop by like a degree or two because of all the ash in the atmosphere and like the sun not reaching us as as much as it does without that stuff so bleak that like that we're we're at this point where it's like it's so clear that there's not going to be any large-scale action to yeah uh that it's like people are trying to think two steps ahead of like well there's no chance there's ever going to be any regulations that are significant enough to save the planet so what if like it's just i understand the logic behind it but it's just like oh jesus christ we're just never going to get good climate change legislation

cool just like fiddling with the thermostat is essentially what we've come up with right yeah you're like blowing the fucking nintendo cartridge and hoping for the best and just put across the entire globe yeah and that's what it's gonna be really tricky to like get everybody on board with this and like especially you, where like right now, like the super wealthy are going to be the least affected by climate change and like probably in the near future. And so they're all going to the Denver airport and they're going to, you know, wait it out. Yeah. What's the Denver airport conspiracy theory is that that there's a tunnel city underneath it? Yeah. Yeah, now you educate me.

There's a bunch of tunnels. There's some Girl Scouts in the 90s that claim that they saw the rich people tunnels. And they're like, oh, but no one ever brought up the tunnels. Why did the Girl Scouts get the tour of the rich people tunnels? I couldn't tell you. All I know is there's agent girl scouts that have been to the tunnel and yeah they're gonna go down there they're gonna um they're gonna live well while the rest of us burn to a crisp i think is the plan yeah or you know freeze you depending on

where things go but that's why the denver airport is allegedly scary i believe it there's like a really freaky mosaic there too of like people in gas masks and stuff like out of nowhere like a lot of a lot of holocaust imagery yeah there's gargoyles at baggage claim there's that big scary horse yeah uh that with the glowing red eyes whose like leg fell off and killed the sculptor that was creating it there's a lot of stuff going on at the denver airport i love getting stuck there it makes me feel like i'm in uh b movie it's exciting it is it's got a it's got a super villain lair uh feel anyway yeah big big minions big grew energy to the denver airport minions work there that's how you know shit's going down um but okay so they're gonna so the back to this study we're talking about yeah so i mean it's just the the un ep which is the

un's like environmental something or other wrote that like with the world not responding to climate change urgently enough a speculative group of technologies to reflect sunlight back away from the Earth has been getting more attention recently, and they're like, it isn't ready for primetime yet, but this view may change if climate action remains insufficient. The report says,

signaling that it's time for rigorous study of both the technologies and the potential international governance which seems like the tricky part but do they have the chemical like do they know what it would be it's just a matter of or is it just like we're we'd have to put in a lot of research to find the chemical that would you know mimic volcanic. I think they have some theories, but it's also like one of those things that you do. It's not really a thing that you want to like go with the guess and check

like method on changing the global temperature. It's a one and done. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see how it goes there. I guess my, my question here, and this has to do with the fact that I don't know how the UN works, really. What why would the world agree? Like, why would all of the nations in the U.N. be able to agree on this proposition if they already cannot agree on other climate change action? that aren't that are like not profitable whereas like our entire you know programming all our coding as a civilization has like built itself up to the point that it's like that is impossible

to do something that is not not like operating in the most efficient way for shareholder value it seems like right and so they're just like does not compute like there's just like spark there the wiring behind their eyes or is like sparking every time that you try and get them to do some sort of climate change action or you know like one of the big thought systems is like what about not gearing everything towards growth and they're like what like just blinking 30 times like because it's not sustainable and we'll blow up um right so so this would be like a an opportunity to circumvent like or try to have it both ways yeah someone's gonna make money like creating the technology yeah so it's like probably just more more jobs created we're gonna create

some jobs sending people into the stratosphere to spray volcanic ash or yeah i mean that i don't think it's like i don't think they're necessarily trying to exactly mimic volcanic ash. I think just volcanic eruptions are the thing that has like given them this idea, essentially. But it does seem like something we want to be really careful with and also something that's going to be incredibly hard to get everybody to agree on and yeah i'm sure there's a way that the wealthy people who actually control like what decisions get made are going to fuck this up for the rest of us right unless there's like some valuable uh contract to be gotten from from having done it like i think part of that like they bought all that all that property in new zealand like they're they i'm sure there's like at least a good portion of the population who like meet up in davos every year who are just like we kind of want this it seems like it would be fun and we would get to like repopulate the earth because we're they have floating mansions yeah like that so they're

like why i don't i don't want to have wasted that money so i could see even if this does turn out to be a good idea i could see this being sort of hitting some headwinds yeah as they say it sounds too much like a the plot of a michael bay movie for someone to not completely fuck it up. Yeah, yeah. The Michaels, Bay and Crichton come together to write a science fiction film that is our future, it turns out. Yeah. Well, as long as there's a weird little graham cracker inspired sex scene, I guess all's forgiven.

It's like the the denver airport thing like really i do believe that even if it's not at the denver airport like they we've already like uncovered historical documents that these exist like there's a west virginia resort that secretly had like a massive underground habitat for the president and like the leaders of the United States in the event of a nuclear Armageddon that was like there throughout the cold war in case they needed it. And now you can like go and take tours of it. But because it was like far enough into history we just are like oh that's quaint but there's there's no way that like bezos doesn't have at least like five of these already like under construction spot like yeah i i true like i'm not a very conspir i'm not a conspirator i

mean whatever zeitgang we've we've been together for a long time. I'm not a conspiratorially minded person, but this one I fully like. If you've got evidence that it's not true, I'd love to see it because why would you build an airport like that? It's the worst airport in the world. It is so weird. It's so far away from Denver. It's so like just sprawling and strange they're just counting on but then also i'm like maybe it's not true every going to denver makes me lightheaded and gives me a nosebleed maybe my brain cells are not operating as they were intended while i'm at this airport but i do i i believe in the theory look up the girl scouts that sounds also like a michael bay movie the girl scouts no you got to find the girl scouts cut to christina hendrix and a girl scout in her 40s being like i saw it i saw it yeah and like the like in a post-apocalyptic setting like with people like wandering the

earth they just like put a bunch of like scary art up around to be like don't come here this isn't this isn't where you want to be, wandering band of cannibals. That's my loose theory. We'll sick the demon horse on you. Yeah. I've seen, it might've been TikToks, but I don't remember. At this point, employees of the Denver airport seem to be conditioned to kind of like lightly engaged with this if it's brought up to them where they're like, oh, I don't know. I don't know if they tell you. Yeah. If you have any information on this, that's not just like the standard Wikipedia article,

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new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeart a book dropping, Competish, and there's a whole chapter. You were in touch with his people about trying to get his moved back a little bit. Yes, I did. I did speak to the enemy and he assured me that he was uh gonna be well out of my release thing yeah you know whatever fine it seems so there there's also like he he had a press conference where i i think he is officially you know signing a bill allowing the state to take control of disney world's tax district away from them or like to yeah basically like not letting them have the same powers as a religion and he did it the corporate kingdom finally comes to an end which feels like i don't know like he's doing

this because they criticized his don't say gay law so but but it is frustrating to me that like battling corporations who've gotten away with too much for way too long like is like that's a winner like politically that's going to be a winner like from now on because people i think are like waking up to the fact that like that is the real enemy. And it's just frustrating that the only side that is able to do anything about it or willing to do anything about it are the fascists. Like, because the center is. Yeah.

But. Yeah. Real broken clock behavior going on. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. But they'll see that this is popular and i'm assuming maybe catch on maybe not i don't know but people are speculating the time link the the timing of his big move to

fuck with disney isn't coincidental because he has a new book coming out on tuesday the courage to be free oh jesus i think there has to be 500 books by fascists titled that already like i feel like you gotta really that's not gonna that's not even gonna stand out on the fascist shelf from this year if you call like if your book has the word free in it baby it should be free honey honey and it's like pretty standard like what like i feel like if you just asked me to write this book on like in an afternoon it sounds like it's what i would come up with like it's he's 100 he's railing against elites who taught him at Yale and Harvard Law School. So it's like he's a student at Yale and Harvard Law School. And he's like these elites, you know, he uses the word elite 20 pages, 20 times in 12 pages. But I think the thing that a lot of people are surprised by is that he devotes an entire chapter to excusing the fact that he got married in Disney World. to excusing the fact that he got married in

Disney World. I think that could be a whole other book of explaining why the hell he did that. Why the hell he did that. Has he offered any explanations? You'll be shocked to learn that he blames it all on his wife.

That's so out of character for such a person as him. Do you believe it? It's Women's History Month as him. Boy. Do you believe it? It's Women's History Month, Ron. I'm struggling to believe it. Struggling. I really can't. Yeah.

I mean, he is truly pure evil and I'm very afraid of him. And also, I can totally imagine him being like, well, you know, my wife, my little princess, had to get married at the castle. Like, eat shit, man. well you know my wife my little princess had to get married at the castle like he did uh this is the direct quote casey's family was what one might call a family of disney enthusiasts they loved going to disney where like saying someone is what one might call like that's never heard that's never not condescending or like dismissive that sentence is wearing a fucking fedora that's like it is nowhere near the only thing one might call those

people yeah of course those one could call variety of things and i'm glad he did explain for his the people that are going to be buying the book who won't know what enthusiast means they they explain that he said they love going with a big three circle make a mouse i really hope i hope this turns into a very low grade embarrassing thing for him where they're like someone has 5 000 pictures of ron desantis enthusiastically hugging goofy at the box and they're like weird you said you weren't really into that wild yes like you know some disney like like a crew member definitely snapped some pics in the tunnels he does claim that he had one stipulation that was that like there couldn't be any any Disney characters at the wedding ceremony.

But there's no word about... His friend Scooby would be so pissed. His bedroom. The bedroom. The wedding bedroom. Didn't say anything about the bachelor party. Yeah. Oh my God. He had to get Goofy involved to get interested.

Of course. He definitely got Goofy. Got course. He definitely got goofy. Got goofy with his wife. I do feel like if you are working at Disney World and Ron DeSantis gets on Expedition Everest, if you work there,

you're allowed to make the rollercoaster crash. You're allowed to fall asleep at the control. You're allowed to remove a section of track. You can take it off. You're allowed to fall asleep at the control. You're allowed to remove a section of track. Okay, you can take it off. You can do a little detour. Just let it go straight off the deep end.

For sure. So he's sort of suddenly riding Haunted Mansion. He sort of doesn't come out. Then he becomes a little ghost. He becomes part of it. And it will make you so much more profitable. Not only will your taxation problems go away disney but you'll have like a legit haunted mansion yeah and ghost law is so much more lenient so like that's huge that's that is huge that's true but yeah so he was just

according to him just being a dutiful groom to be until now when he just threw his wife and her family under under under the tram in print forever so like it's so for him to be kind of playing coy about like i i guess getting married at disney is a thing that people do it's like if you're a floridian human being you know at least one million people who have gotten married at disney if you've been to disney you've seen people getting married on yeah goofy's bar and storm roller coaster and and it's like people talk all day long about wanting to get married at disney so many people we grew up with were like i'm gonna go ahead and be doing that and being a dis adult it's a Florida staple I feel

like growing up I we had friends who went all like every month to Disney and then I was like that's I was talking to my mom one day and I was like it's so crazy because it's like we like never went to Disney and all our friends were wearing all the time and she was like we literally went once a year I was like period for sure and I remembered that and I remember that and I remembered it for real but yeah no it's like if you're in Florida you're gonna go ahead and know that people are chomping at the bit to get married in Mickey's lap so I mean it's like the the concept of like Disney adult I feel like it's like that like term been coined, I guess, sort of recently. But it's like been a thing for as long as the park

is open. Oh, yeah. I had an aunt. Oh, I, she's still alive, but her house, like I was seven and it frightened me, the amount of items and things that were there. And I mean, look, I like going to Disney World

when I go, I'm smiling. Happiest place on Earth? One of the most magical places. Literally, dreams come true. Some good hot dogs there. The turkey legs? The freaking turkey legs? I'm going to be grinning when this is happening.

I'll get married at the turkey leg stand. That's as far as I'll go. I'll marry a turkey leg. I'll marry a turkey leg. I could eat a whole one of those when I was three years old. And that's normal

for a person to do. Yeah. Yeah. No, Disney don't. It's healthy. That and an eight foot gator is how you know. Yeah.

Of course. Disney adult is as old as time. And it's seeming to DeSantis seems to be a Disney adult himself and kind of being shy about it. Undercover Disney adult. You know he's got some

ears hidden away somewhere, for sure. Oh yeah. We can't in good faith hand it to Ron DeSantis ever under any circumstances. But I am I like that that precedent is being set. I hate that it's being set by a fascist. That makes my head hurt.

Absolutely. Yeah. And clearly it has to do with very complicated feelings he has and spurned. They wouldn't do the thing that he wanted. They wouldn't let him wear the actual screen-accurate Prince Eric costume to sing A Whole New World. That's the wrong movie, I think. He didn't get to select a princess as his bride.

That's true. That's true. I mean, Havana Syndrome, there's not much new to report other than that an intelligence report is drawing the same conclusion that we've drawn on this show.

That is that like this weird thing where they were like, we're being attacked by sound weapons. Our CIA agents in Cuba are being attacked by invisible sound weapons. And now they all have vertigo and have like can't function that it was actually like a psychogenic like type mass hysteria is like one way that people describe it but like they're they study this it's called a function disorder a functional disorder it's like there there is an entire medical field to it. There was a New York Times article in 2019 that was like, this is what it is. Like we've talked to experts. It's definitely

this functional disorder where like the same thing that has caused outbreaks of sickness from the beginning of time where it's like confusing, but it seems like one person is experiencing symptoms. Then everybody suddenly starts experiencing them. It can make you sick. They're not consciously making it up. It's just a thing that is not being caused by invisible science fiction weapons, but they like all the coverage of it just leaves the functional disorder part

out. And they're just like, we don't know what happened guys and so they just keep bringing it up and then not explaining what actually happened so i think it's very confusing to people yeah it it in in my in my googling tins of it i was like every single piece it's like yeah there's all this research that kind of explains this phenomenon of mass hysteria kind of caused by this, like, you know, everybody believing something so

hard that it makes them physically sick. But it also could be kind of a bit of a laser or kind of something... A bit of a laser stitch? Laser beam? The use of the word beam, lots of beams. Yeah. lots of beams causing they're like yeah

a few dudes had a headache in cuba and now we're being attacked by aliens it's kind of everyone it's like kind of they're like russia's got their beams on us and so now my tummy hurts yeah so well it also it also is this is this it may be a radical oversimplification and an inspiring stupidification of this, of what we're actually talking about. Is it sort of akin to what we've been seeing? Hate to bring it back to TikTok. Love to bring it back to TikTok. Is it akin to what we've been seeing where sort of anti-vax creators will be posting videos of their feet shaking and be like, thanks, Pfizer. will be posting videos of their feet shaking and be like thanks Pfizer like is it kind of is it like and then probably in some way because I think that some of those people are like

I feel like a lot of them are just doing a little fancy footwork and saying thanks Pfizer and I'm not denying I'm not denying that these people in Cuba had headaches I would never I would never deny that i would i would never want to say that i have a headache and then a whole nation say no you don't actually have a headache it is a horrible position that they're in like that's what sucks about this is like nobody who has ever had a functional disorder is like glad to hear that diagnosis to be like no by the way by the way you're making it all up yes yeah but yeah i i'm sure a lot of the people who are suffering the vaccine sin you know side effects that we see on tiktok believe what they're feeling you know like believe that what they're having is from vaccines

and yeah they're doing their stuff but they definitely think that they, they're, a lot of them, there are definitely people that are just putting on a show, doing the, doing the vaccine shuffle, but then there's definitely doing the stanky leg, but there, there's definitely people who,

yeah, just like get so worked up. They're just trembling. Yeah. I'm sure it's like, they work themselves into these people who are like, you know, probably not super over familiar with the intricacies of their own mental illness and how to handle it.

They're like, they probably work themselves into a panic attack. And then they're like, their legs are shaking. Right. You know, classy, which is like makes the Internet the worst possible place to even address any of this because like there's just no way to yeah to like with any sort of nuance or care addressed like because it's just a bunch of people that are like you're you're losing it like you're yeah yeah it's like a bit of a rock in a hard place because it's like oh the everything about this it's like either you have a mental disorder so strong it's making you physically sick and it's coming from within or you're being attacked by a beam. It's like either you are batshit cuckoo bananas and can't change or there are lasers pointed directly at you.

It's like what? And you're like turning to TikTok for assistance. It's just very bleak. It's very, yeah. No, it's also, it's so clearly,

it's so clearly the opposite of like what the, I guess like people who are on the right at large are like, TikTok is manufacturing mental illnesses and selling them to our teens. And like, doodly doodly, like there's like a section, a faction of like, you know,

creators on the right. Dare I say alt that are like saying that there's like a from studies that don't exist there's like tourette's is up 80 000 because it's there's like they're they're blaming tiktok creators with Tourette's for inspiring other people to pretend that they have it and then thusly have like created this whole narrative around like maybe it's not even real maybe it's like you know they're they're giving each other mental illness through the internet and it's like that's also what they're doing the calls coming back for some function functional disorder like specify that it's neurological it's not like a

mental illness per se it's like a neurological like condition that like gets locked into the pathways in like neurologically and but but they also like the new york times article that came out four years ago that the new york times has proceeded to ignore like has the smoking gun really on roll. Yeah, they're really killing it these days. They said AirPods in rolled out, man. They have so many viral hits they do. But they have the smoking gun that the people,

if they had gotten hit by a physical weapon at the time that they said they discovered it, their brain would have healed from the physical injury by now and like the thing that is always like you can tell by a function dysfunctional disorder is that they last for a really long time because like there's no way to really heal it because it is like locked into your brain pathways like the way that an addiction would so it's like the fact that it's not healing itself the way an injury would is the way that an addiction would be so it's like the fact that it's not healing

itself the way an injury would is the thing that like lets you know okay this is what it is but again they just don't give that very kind of clear and and really like interesting much more interesting than the story of like you know space lasers that we don't know about which i guess that's pretty interesting but it also like tells you about like how immensely powerful the unconscious mind is and like how much of like medicine is like just tapping into this vast like you know universe of information about how much like the mind body connection but it's just it's also the least profitable part of medicine and it is profitable to create panic that we need to invest in the pentagon's ability to invent invisible space laser yeah like a brain shield i'm like i'm sure i'm gonna see someone

on the internet being like everyone in 20 years will have to wear a helmet keeping russia out of our head or like whatever yeah there's like doofy doof yeah it's like it's of course it's a little yeah like in theory sure if if there was any information at all like that was concretely like pointing to what i believe one of the articles may have referred to as a worldwide ultrasonic weapon hello then sure read all about it but they just keep combining different sci-fi phrases i'm like that's creative but yeah but but the other stuff is like actually for real it's also like goof, goofily vintage. Like it's giving like sure. 1700. It's like,

be afraid of the sky. Yes. Yeah. And these studies are coming. The studies where they're like, yeah, sorry, we didn't find anything are coming from the people who have the most

interest in this being true. Yeah. The fucking Pentagon. Right. Like we scream to the sky for hours they did not respond many times was must we as a nation

learn to like not listen to the studies that the CIA releases it's like they're just they're goofing around I thought you were going to say why haven't we learned not to listen to the sky the sky is trying to tell us something. No, every time.

I mean, like this. Honestly, this story did confuse me. And ultimately, I was like, if someone offered to put a Wi-Fi router in my leg, I would let them. Yeah. It's like challenging. Yes. It's like the back and forth of it all it's like yeah there were sources saying that they can't not not not right disprove that it isn't a laser beam from space

but it's like come on this is like yeah this has given me havana syndrome this loop-de-loop of logic and then they'll just end it with, like, yeah, they're not not not doing this. P.S. Russia. That's the only thing that people remember. XOXO. Goof, goof, goof. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

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