The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 267 (Best of 3/20/23-3/24/23)

Episode Date: March 26, 2023

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh stravaganza. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. My name is Jack O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined once again by my co-host. He is Daddy. Up from the 36 chambers of poop oh it's miles come back straight from the i guess brooklyn zoo i can't i didn't have the time to improvise or write an aka i'm back from parental leave, paternal leave.

Wow. I will probably take a little more time later on. But thank you so much for everybody. How are those blowouts, though, man? The blowouts, my God. I thought I was watching Liverpool versus Man United because it was a 7-0 blowout. I think I did hear while you were out that your team's doing really well, right? Top of the league, baby.

We. Top of the league. Top of the league. Say we are top of the league. We. Top of the the league baby we i mean yeah we're eight points clear right now uh man city how much of your mind was taken up by that versus you know what's funny we were doing so well the baby was born we took fucking l's like with and i'm holding the baby in the hospital and i went oh my god i'm like i thought you were the i thought you were powering us through and then shit leveled out i was able to accept my child again and everything is good but yeah i'm i i keep telling everybody this i'm not sure how to speak i've only been speaking to her majesty and the geist child himself and that is kind of the level of my banter.

So bear with me as I get back into it. Although I might just come in on a tent. I don't know. Look, this is, we're all experimenting, right? You sound great. We're so happy to have you back. I'm excited to be back. I'm very excited to be back.

You were greatly missed in all seriousness. I saw all the good combinations. And I was like, fuck. I remember being like oh i'll call in when gabrus is there i didn't yeah i know yeah you were like you had big plans you were like i'll like check in every once in a while yeah like daddy uh man on the street yeah reporting and i was like no you don't do that what are you talking about yeah that comes from someone who's had a child and i'm like in the midst of my yeah i think i got the bandwidth for all this he did not he did not he did not uh miles yeah we are

thrilled to be joined for your first episode back by a very special host executive producer at big money players yeah responsible for some of the funniest podcasts in the world yeah also one of our co-workers. Yeah. Because Big Money Players is our sister network, so it's weird to be this formal. But please welcome the brilliant and talented Olivia Aguilar! Olivia, hello! Hello, hello, hello, my brothers.

Hello, hello. What's happening? Hello, hello. Not too much. Oh, my goodness. I feel, like, honored that this is miles is back from like paternity leave and it's like it's huge this could be the worst episode ever i was gonna say the expectations it could be really high or people are gonna be very disappointed by the end of this episode look

olivia i'm just relieved that you're the guest and it's not somebody i'm having to get to know uh like from my first episode back like you know, we have a lot of overlapping friends, too. We even see each other outside of work a lot because of the people we know. So it's good to see you. And I'm relieved that it's you. And I will do my best. I was going to say, we definitely have had a lot of overlapping friends and a lot of baby overlap. I think when we last saw each other may have been at our friend's baby shower.

And of course, I had to take I don't know if I ever told you this, but I definitely took like a sneaky photo of you sitting. I think you were with your wife. And then I did like kind of like a back sneak photo and then sent it to the ladies of iHeart. And I was like celebrity spotting. And of course, yes, of course I did. was like celebrity spotting and of course yes of course I did I got celebrity spotting in the way I'll send you the photo but you were like mid-bite into eating like a macaroni salad yeah yeah yeah that's me and you're like this was drinking all the juice that was meant for the kids yeah this was all meant for kids they definitely had adult beverages oh my yo i'm sorry this is this is

real shit if there's juice boxes juice boxes scattered about yeah i went to my friend's like baby's birthday party i drank all the juice boxes there's so many juice boxes to the point that like other parents like you know some for the kids there's like adult beverages to them like i ain't drinking man i want these little apple juices i never had these before they're so small were they always this small or is that like part of this new woke oh by the way miles there's been some changes around here this new woke shit where they uh are so worried about sugar you know i think so i mean i remember i remember when the tiny ones came out i'm like that's for Because back in my day, we were sipping like Ecto Cooler.

You remember Boku? Boku? That might have been like just a thing that happened when I was in like second grade. No, no, we didn't talk about Boku. They had a juice box that was called Boku that was just like two regular juice boxes stacked on top of each other. I'm sorry, did Richard Lewis do a fucking commercial? And Richard Lewis was the spokesperson. And I knew that at seven.

I was like, oh, yeah, that's that Richard Lewis juice box. That's definitely not a woke juice box. If you got like prime Richard Lewis going, well, I don't even know what he's saying. I was just going to say stand-up era Richard Lewis being the spokesperson. That is not a woke juice. It goes well with a cigarette. Yeah, he's out here being like, you know what?

I don't even know. I haven't even seen Richard Lewis in a while. I don't even know. I had to stop right there. My powers are coming back online. Give me a moment. Who should we get for this child's juice box? How about the dark existentialist comedian Richard Lewis?

Isn't his whole stand-up thing just being... Hold on, let me get a screenshot really quick, Justin. I have to hear how this guy is selling fucking juice. His nickname was... I feel like the Prince of... I'm going to get it wrong, but it was the Prince of Mean or the Prince of something. Like he was a burn, like burn roaster. Richard Lewis is coming through.

He's wearing all black with a massive mullet. He's in a darkened room. And this is how he's pitching Boku drinks. So I go to a party and I got my choice of Coke or Pepsi. This isn't right. I want a Boku, a seven fruit blend Boku drink. So I go to a party and I got my choice of Coke or Pepsi. This isn't right. I want a Boku. A seven fruit blend Boku. I mean, all this carbonation is very unsettling. I don't want to belch anymore.

Belching is for babies. I want to be refreshed naturally, calmly. I mean, it's my undeniable right as a man of the 90s to quench my thirst in my own way. I want a Boku. The man of the 90s. I need to get quenched. People invite me to a party, I'm bringing my own Boku. Boku fruit juice cooler from McCain.

Oh, whoa. OK, I don't need to get dark. But when he revealed his Boku, it looked like a bomb attached to his body. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Too big. Richard, Richard. A man of the 90s. What a fucking marketing campaign.

Man, I totally associated it with when I was seven, but I guess it was the 90s or maybe... Also, shout out to him. That was one take. There was no cunt take. Yeah, one take is really hard. That was a fucking professional. He's the best.

We got a challenge now for our next ad read. I did a quick Google search just to look up his nickname and his nickname was the Prince of Pain. So the Prince of Pain. Is afraid of bubbling bubbles. The Prince of Pain. Carbonation thinks carbonation is too uncomfortable. thinks carbonation is too uncomfortable that's so funny that they steered so hard into being like a juice box for adults that they got richard lewis to pitch yeah and that the wow that the main hook

point is that you want to stop belching yeah it's unsettling i'm a man if you're a man you know you hate belching it's so rude and it's disgusting that's why i go for juice like huh all right am i right do you do you sophisticate john stefan what is something from your search history that is revealing about you john you want to kick us off sure i look you know you said you you jack you've been listening to a little bit of blocked party the last few days and um well look i'm a pretty uh white guy and um just uh searched i think probably the most white guy thing i've ever searched uh this happened last week and stefan was actually present for this uh but i had to google search how to get kombucha out of a laptop.

We were just about to record an episode of Block Party and I spilled about half a can of kombucha on my MacBook Air keyboard. Somehow I knew it was a Mac. Yeah, exactly. No question about it. Kombucha's never been spilled on a PC. That would have actually been a first in history. You can't Google it. There's no results if you look up kombucha PC spill. But yeah, so I did spill a kombucha on my MacBook and I was Googling how to take care of that.

And turns out I took it into the Apple store and luckily didn't hit the board. So I only... Hey, look at that. I only owe them $480 for a new car. Okay, that's not bad. Well, the guy at the Genius Bar would have been like, well, this is like the most common.

This happens like 10 times a day. Let me guess, kombucha? He just looks you up and down? Let me guess. I feel like there's a big portion of LA's population that would have been like, that's actually good for your computer. Good for its gotten health back.

You actually don't need to take it in. You should just let it rock a little bit. It's going to grow some healthy biomes in there. Yeah. How about you, Stefan? What's something from your search history? Well, this is something... John's going to hear this and be like, of course.

And he's going to kind of be mad at me, I think too. But, um, I'm a big fan of like, uh, digital, like card games. So like Hearthstone, uh, I got like way too into and still kind of am. And this is a recent development for me. Like reason is in like the past, like four or five days. Uh, but I've started playing a game called Marvel snap. And so my, my search term is Marvel Snap beginner decks. And have any of you played the game Marvel Snap?

No, I'm assuming. No. I mean, I'll ask John. I know what the answer is. John, have you played Marvel Snap? No, but I have a life. Okay. Well, the thing is, this has taken over my life.

It's a very fast-paced, very addictive digital card game you can play on your phone or on your computer and the games are like two to three minutes long so you can play like you know one to four of them on the toilet depending on kind of what's going on there um and i'm i'm just like hooked to the point where it's like oh this, this is going to be dangerous for me. There's no doubt in my mind. It's incredibly addictive. And you collect a Marvel, an individual card, and then that is yours. I feel like this is backing up into NFTs somehow, just in my brain. I feel like it just barely dodged being somehow connected to NFTs. And the thing is like i'm not even like a marvel guy necessarily like i've stopped watching the marvel movies and like

i so it's not that it's just that the gameplay itself is like so perfectly and like tightly designed to the point where i think john would actually like it because john's a big board game guy and likes strategy games and things of that nature so i I think there's a chance he would like it, but it's just like such a hard sell to get John past the Marvel stuff. I think. What are you talking about, man? I love,

uh, what, um, Avengers S dot T dot a dot T dot I dot O dot N. I saw that thing that's coming out. Uh, I don't know. I don't want movies,

but I Avengers station. Yeah. But it's an acronym. I can't read what what did you just spell station yeah station ad for it i think it's i don't know what station i think that's a local thing in vancouver actually oh is it only oh you're right yeah it's a completely immersive and educational experience that brings visitors into the world of the avengers I did not get a lot. I would be there. It's not educational in there. They probably got like a grant for funding because they had the word

educational in there. I guess it educates you about Marvel. Yeah, that's true. Learn about the entire MCU. But what does station stand for? S-T-A-N. That's how much I know.

Scientific training and tactical intelligence operative network. Okay. Scientific Training and Tactical Intelligence Operative Network. Okay, so they had some science in there. Incredible. This is where the minds that used to work for the CIA have gone to write for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Everybody's talking about STEM. We need our own. What's the acronym for us?

Stephen, where did the Marvel Cinematic Universe lose you? i i have a pretty specific answer to that i feel like it was um was it guardians of the galaxy 2 i i think no i was kind of on and off but the last one i saw in theaters because it was kind of like well there's nothing to do this weekend let's just go see a movie was the last Thor movie. And it was to the point where we almost like walked out of it because we were, it was just not, maybe just not for us.

I mean, it's, it's not aimed at us maybe necessarily, but it just like really pissed me off. Uh, I guess like everything about it. That was loving thunder. Yes.

Yeah. Um, what imagined dragons? I thought, I thought Christian Bale was good. Love it. Love it. Thunder, thunder. See? I thought, I thought Christian Bale was good. Love it. Love it. Thunder.

Thunder. See, I do have range Jody, but Jack, where, where did it lose you? Like right around the same time with, uh,

watching the, uh, Dr. Strange one from Sam Raimi. Like I was like, Oh, this could be cool. It was like,

and it had like cool moments in it but it just i feel like every time i watch one of them it inevitably gravitates back towards a lightning fight like cgi lightning just yeah like that's everyone's power like if i i think they just need to set an internal rule for themselves that if a giant like purple lightning portal opens in the sky we have made a mistake and need to like you know go back and rejigger things because yeah yeah it's the beam stuff is just like it's everyone has the same power and then everyone gets hit by the beam and they're just like kind of they're just like singed a little bit they're like fine you know it's like daffy duck uh logic yeah um so yeah i'm not i don't like marvel necessarily but the game

itself is like it's incredible like within like a day i was like oh this is like taking over my entire life and it is so all right what is something you think is overrated? Oh, man. You know, something I think that's overrated is I think I might have done this in some way. And this is just definitely I feel like the more you come on this pod, the harder the overrated because you have those like built in overrated. Yeah. Like, oh, yeah. And then as you go, you're like, okay, now I'm searching from overrated. But mine is just like getting the first take, you know? Like there's one thing about takes, you know?

We all know about the internet take. But I also think there's an even more nefarious thing, which is people trying to be the first person to have the woke opinion. And I hate saying it now the word woke it's been it's really devolved like we're you know we're talking about back when i was on mount zeitmore and coming on regularly how overused woke has been and now it's become like truly a battleground like there's battleground states and now we have battleground words and

woke is one of them but it's only used by tugger carlson at this point yeah like just yeah yeah just the the rush into having like the most conscious take on something a lot of times you just see people fumble because they didn't wait to see the situation pan out and this is sounding very political and it's about to get very not political in a second when I talk about the Bayonetta voice actress debacle, which I'm guessing neither of you have heard about that or know about it. I have not. Why would you say that about me, man? How could you think that I missed the Bayonetta voice actress debacle? But I do want to hear your take on it.

I'm familiar with Bayonetta. I have not gotten into the whole culture behind the voice acting of it. Well, the new one isn't going to have the original voice actress. And she hopped on Twitter and she was like, I had to pass on this role because they were only offering me $3,000. And, you know, whoever, you know, whatever that actress that took the role, just know you'll never be the real Bayonetta, whatever, whatever. And the person who took the role was Jennifer Hale, who is like a very prestigious voice actor, most popularly known as the voices of Female Shepard in the Mass Effect series. Just the goat. And also, she's very, very like a union stand. Like she's big about SAG, making sure video games go SAG.

When the voice actors struck against, you know, the video game community for SAG roles, she would host, you know, these talks at her own home to tell, you know, non-union voice actors why they shouldn't break the picket line. Like, she's in it. So it's a rough accusation. And then, of course, it eventually comes out that she negotiated a price and they accepted it. And then she tried to negotiate higher and they're like, well, we can't pay that. So they went somewhere else. But they're like, you know, but, you know, we'll give you a cameo. And, you know, for all that done, we'll give you a cameo. And, you

know, for all that done, it will give you three K and that was the full story. And so that comes out and you have all these people who were like yelling and like standing on the front lines to be the first to like, know what's going on instead of just being like, oh damn, we, we had the wrong information and fucked up. They would, they, would they would do these this backpedaling where it's like well it's still kind of fucked up that you know yeah and to me i was like you put yourself in that position because you wanted to be the first person who was right instead of being like let me see the situation unfold and i don't mean it in the way where we had you know video footage of black bodies laying on the street and you had, you know,

conservatives being like, well, let's wait till all the facts come out because the facts was the video that we all could see. I'm saying that when one person is saying something and it's truly not, you know, you don't need to stand your ground there. You can just wait to see the response in that. Maybe you can wait that out. So and rushing to get first, if you're wrong, maybe, maybe, maybe just say you're wrong. Yeah. Stop being afraid of being wrong. And that is a take that I think I've said before. of that, like on the conservative side, that story where like Ben Shapiro was trying to get someone on his network. And then they were like, oh, I'm mad about what I'm getting paid. And then people took sides. And then the full story came out of like that guy was getting so much money and opportunity and he was just complaining for no reason. But then the lines had been drawn and it

just kind of span out. And yeah, it's hard to have people really want to have a hot take i think it's you know that instant gratification of like look how authentic i was but first and then you have to be like oh wait no i didn't i didn't mean that as soon as you are found to be wrong which means you were never authentic so you have to you have to really be careful and pick and choose your battles. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated, Anna? Baths. Baths. No, I mean, a lot of people like taking baths, but

I just think, I don't think we talk about baths enough and how great they are. Probably my favorite kind of indulgent thing to do is take a bath in the middle of the day. If I have time, I mean, having a young child and during the work week, that's usually not possible. But if I find myself with a pocket of time during the day when I'm alone in the house,

I can take a bath while the sun is still out and it's midday. I mean, it's like, it's amazing. I feel like we should talk about it more. And you can do so many things to your bath. You can put bath salts in there, bubbles. Right. Ducks. Yeah. Ducks, bath beads, like make it smell good. Live ducks, rubber ducks.

It's like going to a spa, but you know, you don't have to pay any money and you don't have to leave your house. I experienced a bit of a bath renaissance when I had a kid as well, just because, you know, you remember, oh, baths, right. Is that what happened for you? You feel like a young kid brought a bath into your life? Mr. Bubble, which I advocate for as well. And then also, I think just having an uninterrupted block of time alone is also at a high premium after having a kid. So that's probably part of it as well. I think baths are for people who aren't me, I feel like I'm steeping in my filth, like a teabag. Well, this is the bath conundrum.

Take a shower first. Yeah. What's the end game? Okay. Shower before bath is something I need to try. Before bath. Okay. Now,

now we're talking. That does make sense because yeah, I just like a little soak. See, I always solve this by going shower after bath. Interesting. Okay. Yeah.

But then you're still steeping in your own filth for a little bit. The shower before bath had never occurred to me. Just a quick rinse, you know, because then also you don't have to kind of, I feel like taking a shower right after a bath kind of washes away the bath glow. I just want to get out of the bath and chill. No, you're right. You're right. Putting a little oils in there. It's just the bubble bath. I need

the skim of bubbles to not see below the surface what's happening down there when I'm in a bathtub personally. That's just how I feel. Well, this is a callback to the thighs thing. They're distracting. I'll say it's pretty distracting. My eyes can't see the light that you shine. The lyrics to Kiss by a Rose are really kind of, they seem like a daydream that someone, like someone trying to write a

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And you mentioned that like hell is tied into it. And so I was just like that. That's always interesting to me. to it. And so I was just like that. That's always interesting to me, like America, America's obsession with hell, like the very early American texts of like Cotton Mather just being like, we're all just on a on the verge of falling into hell and like how how that informs culture in America to this day. But I was curious to hear you talk about that with regards to finance in particular. Wait, before I tied into finance, I think it's really interesting that you pointed that out

because you guys earlier at the top of the show were talking about that, about how everything is going to hell in a handbasket because, you know, scams and stuff. So I think it's really fascinating that that's such a permanent fixture in our culture, this fear of like... Fear of hell? Yeah. We're in hell. Yeah. My famous catchphrase, we're all in hell. I'm having a great time though. Good. I mean, hell should be fun, right? Right. Yeah. All the fun people go to hell. Yeah. It's like a party where you don't know if things are going to go terribly wrong. Yeah. Best time. When it comes to personal finance, and I would say particularly with debt, what I was trying to unpack and understand is why we have such strong ties to morality and why people have this, like people feel a sense of moral obligation to pay back what they've borrowed

and like i can understand that kind of from an arm's length but like when you double click on it you can start to see like a history of like the catholic church and when it broke and we had that like protestant reformation thing happen and it all had to do with with like with debts right but then if you zoom out even further like ancient societies have always felt like a debt to the gods. So they would do animal sacrifices or human sacrifices. They would, you know, there was all this, this idea of debt has been with society for, I think, as long as humanity has been around. Right. And so I just really wanted to explore that. I think what makes people like my

shit when it comes to finances is I'll just zoom all the way out and say like, hey guys, we're just these flesh bags sitting on a rock that's hurling through space and time. And yeah, you should have like an emergency fund and stuff that's cool we should do that and put money into your 401k but like your actions and energy reverberates into the universe forever so like be about that vibe like i can hold those two things in the same breath but also not make it about like you're shitty because you're not following along to what god said you should be doing so you know and all of that just comes from being an intersectional person, growing up when I grew up, where I grew up, being the person that I am, being queer, and always feeling like I had to kind of negotiate or understand how people were

going to perceive me and then try to make them comfortable so that I was safe. That just, that's a part of my upbringing and that just permeates my work. And, and then the health thing, like the Christianity thing, why are we, I'm just a curious individual. And the more I learn about money, the more I try to understand anthropologically, psychologically,

evolutionary, biologically, like the weirder it is, the crazier it is, the more I'm seeing that everything is super connected. And, um, it's just a fascinating thing that we've created here yeah it's all made

in like our own like the we built a system we've been talking about fractals a little bit on the show lately and like the these small patterns that then get like blown up into massive kind of patterns that look exactly the same over over the course of like an entire civilization or over the course of all of history. And yeah, it feels like we've built a economic system that mimics how the like very first, you know, people in America with power felt about themselves and with regards to God. And now, you know, people are like, my credit card debt means God hates me. God is mad at me. You know, it's like 300 years later. Jesus. I feel like another parallel, too, is that all finance to me sounds like priests talking. Sure. You know what I mean?

Sure. I feel like the entire financial industry is kind of, there's a language. It's like learning, it's like the reason the Catholic Church was doing everything in Latin, you know? That's exactly it. Because it was like, well, no one understands this.

This isn't for the peasants. As far as i can tell cnbc is or what's the financial one is it msnbc cnbc no csnbc as far as i can tell cnbc is in latin completely i completely like i don't understand it and it makes me feel like oh that's that's above my pay grade you guys can you guys can run all the banks and stuff makes me feel like, oh, that's, that's above my pay grade. You guys can, you guys can run all the banks and stuff like, you know, like you guys, yeah, do, do whatever it is you got to do with the, you know, the securities, uh, stuff. And, you know, so then the rest of us kind of just, uh, back out. And we also take their word, like financial people's

word. It's like, it's like a priest. talk directly to the money god you know they they person they have a personal relationship with the invisible hand of the free market so you know we'll let them do it i've been on the inside and it's just like mad boring it's like so painfully annoyingly boring. And I have a very high tolerance for boring shit. I realize that about myself. And I do wonder, are they making it boring on purpose? Are they just boring? And then sometimes I take a left and I'm like, does everything in society now have to be entertaining?

Is there a problem with that? And I kind of feel like, yeah, the answer is yes. Like I'm literally trying to entertain people like da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, like do stupid shit about finance and then trick them and then be like, okay, let me teach you a quick lesson for these five seconds that I'm holding your attention and then do something weird and unexpected again.

Yeah, it's just, it's a weird thing that we've created. And I agree with you. It definitely, it's kind of like the law where it's terrifying. You don't understand what the hell is going on. And then you have to pay somebody to help you navigate it.

Yeah. In theme of a scam. In theme with today's episode. Well, fortunately, the law experts are usually pretty kind and, you know, on the up and up.

Absolutely. Lawyers, I think they're called. Yeah. Lawyers. Yeah. Very warm hearted individuals trying to do the right thing. Never like taking any jokes. All right. So let's let's get into one of the scams of the day. I'm not going to ask you to explain what it means that the Fed just hiked rates despite the bank turmoil, because I don't even. Yeah, we'll just let them do that. Yeah, we'll just let them do that. Yeah, they know.

What do I know? I don't know. Leave it to the adults. Finally, adults are doing stuff. But so you might remember the guy who introduced florida's don't say gay bill his name is joseph harding and he claimed that the bill was about defending the most awesome responsibility a person can have being a parent and therefore we can't acknowledge anything except my very strict interpretation of who should like who in schools was basically his thing.

You know, as a new parent, I want to say that being a parent means that you just, you take your kid away from anything, anything that might, you know, make you uncomfortable personally. Exactly. It's not really about the kid as much as it is about just like, don't embarrass me. You know, that's me out with my child at any point. Just like you're being weird right now. And then just making sure that no one else embarrasses my child further or me. Yeah, that's good. Don't say gay is what i'm saying yes exactly so anyways that same person pled guilty to committing 150 000

in covet 19 relief fraud uh faces up to 35 years in prison so you. So you can't make this shit up. It's so good. You can't write it. It's so entertaining. You got to teach your kids to be on that grind set mindset, you know? Yeah. But so Harding took COVID relief funds intended to aid struggling small businesses by using the names of dormant business entities and claiming that they were still in operation during the pandemic, which they weren't. The businesses were the Vac Shack, which is a store selling discount vacuum cleaner bags. Oh, wow. I like that. I wonder why it's dormant. I don't know. It's a great question. I was just talking to somebody about how strange it is that there are still places in this world that only sell vacuum cleaners. They're just coasting off the inertia of that being, I guess, a business with good margins.

But it's like you never see anyone in there. Good enough for a brick-and-mort can't imagine vacuum store guys it's probably a front right it's gotta be it's yeah almost definitely yeah but then a vac like going being like no the vacuum store is actually not specific enough yeah and niche Yeah, just go drill down to vacuum cleaner bags. Nope, actually still not specific enough. I want to corner only the market of discount vacuum cleaner bags. We're Ross for vacuum cleaner bags. Don't buy any of those fancy brand new ones.

We have some irregular bags. You know, going against the grain. Everybody else, like Walmart, all these big box stores or places where you can get everything. And he was like, nah, I'm going to... Come to Rick's Vac Shack. We got Hoover discount vacuum bags.

We have iRobot ones to the Roomba vacuum bags. Also, crack cocaine in the back right yeah i mean definitely for sure that joe's vac shack yeah and then he had another one that was a supposedly a 46 acre horse and cattle facility now that he was smart to keep nice and vague so nobody really knows what that means but it hadn't been active since 2017 and so yeah that's how he's showing his kids what's up yeah yeah that's uh you know i love the thing is now at this point every time there is like a morality police who a self-appointed deputy of morality, morality police.

Yeah. Yeah. They always like this always happens. There's always something. There's always it's just like it just it's inevitable. You just wait for it. And then it's just like, you know, it's like all the people who are just like groomer, groomer, groomer. And then they're all arrested for having like child porn and stuff.

You're just like, it's just it's just the next logical step. You just know it's not even fun anymore. You know what I mean? It's not even like poetic anymore. Like I used to have fun when I would be like, look at that. Isn't that some poetic irony?

And now I'm just like, can we stop with the... It's cliche now. It's cliche. Stop with the cliches, guys, please. It's almost as if you publicly, you know, try to ridicule others about morality. It's almost as if you're trying to cover up something

each and every time. Every single time. Oh my God. It's like, I'm not even offended that these guys are getting in trouble for these things i'm offended that they're just so hack so predictable yeah yeah it's just like guys get some new material if this was pitched in a writer's room in succession they'd be like okay but like we need something else yeah right it's just although the the stupidity of the businesses that he was trying

to make happen is kind of pretty succession level funny that's true yeah you could see kendall roy just pitching joe's back shack to uh merge with the business yeah and then on on another parenting front and scam front so sofia coppola's 16 year old daughter went viral after posting a tiktok in which she i'll just read the quote from the video because it's pretty it really it just really gets into it. People are calling it the best Coppola film since Godfather 2. She just opens up, make a vodka sauce pasta with me because I'm grounded because I tried to charter a helicopter from New York to Maryland on my dad's credit card because I wanted to have dinner with a camp friend. There's a lot of becausees in that sentence. It's, you know, it's Hemingway-esque, you know, like sometimes Hemingway will just like go on one of those runs,

short sentences, and then follow it with a bunch of, and then because, because, because. Pacing. Yeah, pacing. And this is just breakneck right out of the gate. She also goes on to say she doesn't know the difference between a garlic and an onion and had to google image search pictures of onions she then like cuts a shallot i believe is she a baby she's 16 cool okay So she is a baby. Yeah. She is a child. Like,

that's why I'm not like, I don't like, it's just a, like, I kind of am just amazed. It's, it's just a little pinhole into the world of, of being,

of being a Coppola, of being a Coppola, of being somebody who has enough money that you have to be like, we need to change the passwords on the credit cards again because our kids are trying to... They keep trying to charter a military jet to drive them into the sun. Yeah. She also says her parents have banned her from having any public social media accounts because they don't want her to be a nepotism kid yeah that'll stop it uh good on them yeah no way to have foresight yeah i mean the only way to stop

this they don't want a nepotism baby they gotta murder their child there's yeah but i i mean wait but she was posting this on social media though right yeah i think she took over her she stole it parents account also oh okay like their credit card and then like towards this this video by the way which you know i i'm summarizing as if it's a feature film is like 45 seconds long of course. Then her babysitter's boyfriend shows up and she says, my parents are never home. So these are my replacement parents. Oh, and then she's heartbreaking. I know it's like super heartbreaking. She asks her babysitter's boyfriend what he thinks of the helicopter fiasco. And he says that he thinks she

should call it a fiasco because it's like a feminine fiasco. It sounds cooler. Yes, queen. So, you know, they still got it. Those Coppola's and their babysitter's boyfriends. Why is the babysitter's boyfriend there? I don't like it. I mean, I guess if at this point, if the babysitter is essentially raising this baby then then maybe these really are

her replacement parents but it's just uh feels a little weird to have the boyfriend just like hey what's all oh i'm just here just grabbing this plate of gobble ghoul you guys uh you know keep keep doing whatever you're doing i don't like it it's it. It's a good gig if you can get it. Yeah. Boyfriend of Coppola's babysitter. Yeah, man. I mean, it sucks because it's like I, you know, I, of course, am not defending any rich nepotism babies or whatnot. and babies or whatnot but I do

appreciate that Sophia Coppola and her husband were like we don't want you on social media and she just ended up doing it anyways by like that to me is like that there's some normal kid

trapped within that you know who is just like she's acting out in the ways that she knows how to, which is like stealing parents' credit card and trying to charter a private helicopter. Yeah. It's a different, it's a level of privilege. But at the same time, you know, we'd all try to do it if we had a helicopter to charter. Yeah.

And if our parents just never showed up. Like a regular person would be trying to log into their parents' Lyft account or something. Right. Yeah, yeah. Exactly, exactly. So putting that into a little bit of perspective. And then also, you know, I kind of get the Sofia Coppola not wanting her to have an account, like a social media account, so that she wouldn't become a nepotism

baby I think it just is like so I don't want you to be a public figure because then then you're going to just become like one of those many like you know all those USC kids who like pretended that they knew how to ski or whatever and then they got

yeah and they got into like USC like and so there's something admirable there, I guess. I mean, my grindfulness here, I'm thinking that... Be grindful, sir. I'm thinking, okay, what is the money-making opportunity here and it is an uber for helicopters for rich people's kids like how has how does that not exist like a snapchat version though it disappears after right i mean it'll appear on the credit card statement but it's you know uber was trying to do helicopters oh that's right they did have helicopters what am i trying to have the route be right over um the 110 like the same route where that one it's like on the 110 i think where

there's like a train there that takes you to i don't know where that goes because they don't yeah but there is a train in the middle of the oh yeah that yeah yeah yeah yeah it was gonna so i guess they everything goes around that because they don't want to contribute to, like, noise pollution. Because there's only 40 helicopters every hour going over every house in

Los Angeles because of the LAPD. Yeah. They just circle sometimes. Sometimes I just like, I'm like, you're bored. You're not fooling me. This isn't like, who are you looking for? Who could you possibly be looking for? You know what I mean?

Like, what is this Pablo Escobar around? Yeah. Who is helicopter important? Yeah. Very few people. It's a flex on the pores, frankly. Totally. Absolutely.

Yeah. flex on the pores frankly totally it's like absolutely yeah it's like we care so much about catching poor people that we are going to flash this helicopter's bright ass light into people's is he in there good check i fucking hate those guys it's the ultimate flex so that's why we can't blame sofia coppola's daughter for wanting to take a helicopter. I mean, and I don't want to get in trouble with your audience. Obviously, ACAB, all Coppolas are bastards. But I do feel for, I mean, she's 16. She's, yeah.

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And people seem to be on board. People are like, it's actually really fun, y'all. Yeah. Sorry. Which is also what I'm hearing about air and what I'm hearing about the Blackberry movie and the Tetris movie is like that. Sorry, this is just who we are. Unfortunately, this is what a good movie is now that sorry this is just who we are unfortunately like this is the this is what a good movie is now and yeah you know i liked the social network i mean i think i think it makes sense you

know we are this uh we we're we're so consumed by brands now right because we're like locked in on the on the internet and i think some good can come from uh from movies like this like air and so where you kind of dehumanize the the brand where you're like no this is a an idea made up of people and these are the people behind it because there is this weirdness when you see brands on social media and like the brand managers running the account and doing memes that it gives these brands a personality a person yeah and i feel like movies like these can actually work against that hopefully and be like nope this is a company and this is the people behind it and i think social network is a great idea because i feel like that movie was the downfall of the like making you know mark zuckerberg seemed cool like i feel like that movie was the downfall of the like making you know mark zuckerberg

seemed cool like i feel like that once that movie came out people were like oh he is kind of a dick and he has it made him seem more charismatic than he really is because jesse eisenberg is like an actor who's very charismatic on screen but it also was like yeah but like what this dude decided ultimately to do was big and vast and fucked up, like real fucked up and not, you know, not something that he probably wanted to approve. Like that's, you know, I think best case scenario, it gives us more insights like that. Worst case scenario, though, we're like getting to see these people making corporate decisions and like they're being like made into heroes. Well, like the things that make those corporate decisions possible is like, you know, grinding lower paid workers to, you know,

and just, you know, people being threatened with starvation and lack of health care. Yeah. I mean mean work around the clock yeah and i'm actually here for this like we're you alluded to this earlier jack about there's like a big allegedly caveat with the origin story about the full truthfulness of it or not and actually we should just talk about that before i give my point about sure yeah so the this movie the flaming hot cheetos movie is the story of a somebody who I think was like framed as a custodian in the original origin story who worked for Frito-Lay and was just like a big fan of their work and was also, you know, a tinkerer, had a little shed in his backyard. So Richard Montanez is his name. And he basically tells the story that he, you know, worked for Frito-Lay in like a custodial capacity or was like, you know, a lower level worker. I think it was first

pitched as like he was a custodian and then tinkered with these flavors like putting elote like mexican you know the mexican street food of elote of like grilled corn with lime and chili and he was like what if we put those spices on cheetos like what like these would be good and then like it it was so good that he then like brought it to the frito-lay ceo at the time roger enrico and he was like this is brilliant and flaming hot cheetos was born except for the fact that frito-lay claims like none of that is true and i i still don't know like where i fall on this like somebody i want to see somebody do like a real deep dive into yeah what part of it is true because obviously like frito-lay is not going to want to be overshadowed or also like legally liable

to like pay this person more than what they have already paid so they're like you know actually it was it was being test marketed already when he claims to have come up with this idea and just like real like their story seems to want it both ways they're like we came up with this idea and it's a very boring story of like test kitchens and marketing and and none of his thing is true but we love him and we're here to celebrate richard and he contributed in some way but not a way that's legally liable to us like yeah i i uh i'm actually here for this like because you know how many examples of whitewashing do we have where we find out the person who really invented something was from a marginalized community while some land owning white man claimed all the credit. So, so, and,

and also to their credit, they're even willing to, I guess they added in lines where they poke fun, like a narrative lines where they poke fun at this, maybe not being all the way true necessarily, which is much more than my history books ever did. So I feel like, you know, this is a good, like, you know, if sure, fictionalize more origin stories of companies or take all the white people out of it, put more black and brown people and people of color in there, people from marginalized communities and say they did it. And I don't care if it's a lie.

I like the representation. It's more than what we've had before. So, yeah, I like seeing this. Yeah, no, I yeah, I'm always wary of companies being like, you know, that's not true. We were doing the test kitchen. I was like, OK, who was the head chef? Who was it? Because it was a white person. Then his story still stands because a white person didn't like pull that from his culture. white person then his story still stands because the white person didn't like pull that from his culture you know right where it's like it's like cool show us the receipts because you know usually

that's how they respond competing with the white guy's idea mayonnaise cheetos yeah instead they're like take my word for it please how about we dunk the cheetos in milk huh i'm just a little worried that these cheetos are going to be too spicy and they're going to cause people to masturbate which was that that's one so in a moment we'll get to it yeah because that's where cornflakes came from was them being like we need to create a food so bland that it will make kids stop jerking on. Yeah. But yeah, it's a,

it's a mess, but like, this is apparently a messy, fun movie that like relishes in certain exaggerations. It's less the founder and more like it's got some adaptation like vibes to it where you don't know really what to believe. But it's it's a little bit fun. And I'm I'm I'm happy with that.

Yeah, this seems like a fun way to to approach that. And apparently Ava Longoria doing doing some pretty good work and her directorial debut. So that's that's exciting. Yeah. And and these movies can be fun. We already pointed out like you know the mighty ducks i had fun with that when i was a child that's kind of you know it's more about like team and stuff but there's branding all over that shit oh yeah yeah mighty ducks angels in the outfield of course the true story behind uh the formation of the california angels baseball

team but i mean like there is a pretty good track record with these movies like money ball i would put in this category because it's like telling the purported true story behind like the oakland a's like like relevance they didn't even win anything but they were like relevant for a period of time when they had a very low payroll social network ford versus ferrari was i think the most recent example of this that was like oscar nominated yeah the founder steve jobs all the steve jobs movies like the that the genre of steve jobs movies becoming yeah its own thing so that leads me to the question of like we already pitched lunchables like the lunchable story told from the perspective of because that was like Oscar Mayer was like, nobody wants to eat hot dogs and bologna anymore. What do we do? And then that invented Lunchables and became it became like one of the most profitable thing in foods, but also gave a bunch of people horrible health issues because it's one of the least healthy foods ever pawned off like sold to children but i i could definitely see like i'm

kind of surprised that i haven't already heard about a coca-cola origin story movie me too like that they must just be being very precious with that but the origin origin story of Coca-Cola is like, has to be the Holy grail of these movies because it was invented by a heroin or like morphine addict who like veteran of the civil war where everybody came out of that war addicted to morphine because they were all, you know, shot up and in so much pain. I can, I can imagine maybe Coca-Cola doesn't want to be associated with

the Breaking Bad type character, but I think they should poke fun at them. I would have so much respect for them if they did it. Yeah. Yeah. And like, so at that time, one of the treatments for morphine addiction was cocaine. They're like, try this, this healthy drug. And that's where he found out about cocaine and how he started putting it in his beverage and just, you know, the immediate out of control popularity of Coca-Cola because it had cocaine in it. And people were like, give me a, give me a, I think they would call it a dope at the time. And it would be like three, three times stronger than it was meant to be. They would just like put extra, extra syrup in it it and people would just run around high out of their mind it's the most american thing that's ever happened like the whole pulling yourself up from your bootstraps

capitalism drug-induced mania you gotta you gotta love it yeah somebody like this might need to be its own like long running hbo series or something because there's there's a lot of story there. Absolutely. And then Elon Musk, of course, like the Elon Musk movies probably, you know, 15, 20 years from now are going to be coming. 2024. Relentlessly coming. Yes. He's shopping it around right now. I also, and on a serious note,

I did, uh, we, I pitched the, uh, Patagonia movie at the beginning of the record session, just cause like that guy has an interesting legacy. I'm not fully, uh, immersed in everything that happened there. I just know some people in the area that he took over in Chile. He bought a lot of property with the intention of preserving this area and making it pristine. And, you know, the guy who owned it was, you know, this rich white guy who was buying land in a country with indigenous folks who were skeptical of him. And there's a lot of stuff there. There's environmentalism. There's activism.

There's capitalism. There's adventure because that guy was going all around. I keep saying that guy because I don't know his name. But, you know, he was climbing mountains. He was kayaking. There's a whole, like, fantastical, like, Yellowstone type of movie in there somewhere. Yeah. And he left the company to the employees, I thought, or at least was talking about doing that.

And then he died tragically while he was, like, I think he was kayaking on a river and drowned or something. But, yeah, it was a fascinating story there. Yeah. How about you, if any, like, pitches for brands? I mean, there's got to be some good, like, the invention of it. I want the Mountain Dew story. Oh, yeah.

There you go. We missed it. There you go. From Mountain Ale to X x games you know and it'll be like it'll be like a like a like a triple x action extreme sports you know from moonshine to kickflips i love that exactly like the moonshiners i mean that is actually the origin of nascar is true like people running moonshine around in those cars that looked like that and evading the police so i mean nascar and mountain dew could have a great coach both as well yeah yeah oh hell

yeah that sounds amazing green light at hollywood take our idea there you go you know and also this And also, this is a very specific, an extremely specific, like, point of hitting this up. But there was a thing where there was this company called Chatters in Utah. And it was basically a bootleg In-N-Out. Because at the time, In-N-Out only was in California and I think Las Vegas. Those were the, like, it was being like, we're a California restaurant. And so they made the bootleg chatters and In-N-Out sued them. I think they tried to have the defense of like, well, In-N-Out only exists in California.

And so In-N-Out basically made an In-N-Out in Utah after that case. And now that there's one In-N-Out that's in Utah because of this chatters. Because it's like instead of the founder, it's like the origin story of McDowell's. Yeah, exactly. If you build it, they would come type B. origin story of McDowell's. Yeah, exactly. It's like, I'm gonna... If you build it, they would come, type B. Oh, yeah. That sounds incredible. And Utah is

fascinating. Like, just all the weird culture that pops up there. Floating soda shops. Yeah. Alright, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist please like and review the show if you like the show uh means the world to miles he he needs your validation folks

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