The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 269 (Best of 4/3/23-4/7/23)

Episode Date: April 9, 2023

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Our guest today is a force to be reckoned with. Not only is this person a motherfucking doctor. I'm just always going to shout out the doctor part because i don't know that many doctors impressive and yeah not only is this this fantastic person not only they what a media critic they're out here educating they're also a fantastic writer on their grind right now in hollyweird trying to get it done which again i believe this is going to happen and if you know this person you know they are trying to get it done, which again, I believe this is going to happen. And if you know this person, you know they are going to make it happen. But without further ado, please allow me to welcome to the microphone.

Dr. John Paul Higgins! Oh, I was also very happy when I saw all the melanated folks on the screen. Oh, what a day. What a day. What a mighty good day. Yes. Also the host, obviously a black fat femme as well.

Yes. Our sister show. Yes. Yes. How are you? How are you, Dr. John?

You know, I'm doing quite well. You know, it's, it's been a, I'll say it's already April and I'm looking up and I'm going, may, I mean,

March was like, I gotta go yeah i don't even remember and there's 31 days in march too that's like literally zipped by so i'm like god it's already april 7th but i'm feeling good you know we've been we've been doing really good over here in the the black fat femme world as well as in my own life and world things have been all right so everything's good beautiful thing okay it's a beautiful thing what's it like you know i know you what what kind of what kind of pitches you got going right now what kind of pitches you know so i i said this last time i was on the show and i'm gonna say it again hire me you know i am i there have been some really cool things that have

have been moving i have something that's actually getting ready to come up that i can't announce right now you know ndas is something else when you live in a world full of NDAs. You know, they tell you, this great thing happened, but you got to shut your mouth about it. And you're like, no. Forever. Forever.

You sit on it forever. Let me ask you something, Dr. John. Can I call you Dr. John? You sure can. Dope. DJP. Like, let's be real. Let's be real.

When we have NDAs, because, you know, we all familiar with NDAs. On average, how many people you break that NDA for? I break the NDA for the people that's in my immediate circle. Obviously, my husband's going to know about it. Yeah.

Because, again, it's real hard to do anything without my husband being like, what's happening? So usually. Where you been going for a week? Right. What are you doing? Who are you doing this with? You got to break the NDA for your family. Usually, my mama will know

my mom will usually be the second or third person i call outside of my manager but you know when it starts coming down to friends i have friends who are like oh god what are you up to i'm like i'm not telling you nothing because you can't even keep a secret so no and let's be clear and let's be clear this is hypothetical you haven't broke any nd you haven't even told your husband no you haven't even told your husband for No. You haven't even told your husband. For anybody who's listening, this is a hypothetical. This is actually an improv comedy scene we just did. Yeah.

One word suggestion was NDA. That's all we did. Yeah. But no, overall, that's been a part of the world. And then, you know, I've won some awards for a script recently. I actually placed finalist with Series Fest. You know, I've gotten awards with Crown and and scene play and also the santa barbara there are a few other ones that i'm waiting to come through to see if i won or not but it's really cool just to see people actually paying attention

to the shit i you know that i have to say and i write so it's really cool pardon me i was like man i mean i made a mistake asking them what was going on. I'm like, what the fuck I got going on? Now you're over here to host some of this badass show. No, no, I'm good. You host and shit? You got a baby. We're not starting this episode off to

where I go like, man, I'm down on myself. And then the two of you get to go, hey, you got a beautiful baby. Hey, listen, you know how the Melanated folks do when we be like,

man, shit, I'm just trying to be like you. I'm trying to be like you. That's all we say. I'm just trying to be like you, bro. That's all we say. We're all trying to be like each other. And we're trying to be like you bro we're all trying to be like each other and what better three people to try and be like than us right now nick gotta ask you as the guest on this show what is something from your search history that's

revealing something about who you are what you're into right now oh gosh you know what the first thing that came to mind was that do you know you can't drive uh from do you know you can't drive you know you can't drive yeah no i've been watching you and buddy you gotta use your turn signal you uh gotta get a license it turns out you have to use your hands and they're not all teslas it has to say tesla on it for you to watch his hands free. Let go and let Elon. Let go and let Elon. That's what I would say. That's funny. It's a video of like, here's somebody sleeping while driving. Here's the worst part. It was a Ford Fiesta. Yeah. But you can't drive from North America down to Argentina. I just found this out. And I was looking at my search history said that was a

thing I just looked up. There's a there is a region at like the smallest, skinniest part that connects like I think maybe like Colombia to Ecuador maybe. And there's just no road there. I think there's something called the interstate of Americas that just kind of stops and it gets too hilly and too jungly and everything. And I was just like, I i never knew that i just assumed you could drive everywhere yeah because i know people that have driven like all the way up here from like central america and things like that and i can but you're saying that there there just comes a point where you're like hey man like what would you do like there's just no road travel at that point like i i guess there has to be a ferry situation, I would assume. But there's no road anymore.

Like, no, because I was watching some video of like some of the migrants, you know, like that come from deep south America. And they say that when they get to that point, there's no road for them to even like walk alongside. They have to carry all their crap across like these rivers and these hills. And it's just like this really dangerous, it's too dangerous for workers to even work there because they get, you know, bitten with mosquitoes and the heat and the, it's just like dangerous for them.

So everyone's just like, I don't know, figure it out, fly down there. Maybe they don't want to connect with each other. There's some probably, there's some States that are in America that probably would rather if Florida couldn't connect to them.

But, no, knock on Orlando. Yeah. But, you know, I just thought that was interesting. I don't know, but for some reason, the first thing that pops into my head is just like, someday someone's going to tell me they drove all the way down to Argentina. I'm going to be able to call them out on it.

I don't know why that's the... All my information I get is to call somebody out on it. Wait, wait. So wait, yeah. What was the, like your mental path to be like, hold on, I need to get to the bottom of this. Like, I've been trying to figure out what's going on with South America for a while. I don't know. I kind of don't know why we don't help them out more as much as we help like other countries. Well, I mean, we help ourselves too. Yeah. We helped ourselves to like, yeah, we helped ourselves to like not necessarily for them, but for ourselves. We helped ourselves to like fruit, you know what I mean?

Where like Dole came in. Like, hey, you need help? And that will like, we'll fuck up anybody who's talking about sharing the profits of your fucking fruit. I mean, it's even like it even goes like, I mean, it's that and it's even like, even earlier than that, they just like

europeans came in and just like just stole all their wealth and and then tore down their like you know their structures of you know these like massive civilizations yeah yeah yeah and it's just they've been kind of like screwed ever since and uh i'm just sort of you know it just feels like these people down there's a lot of people down there that need help that's why they're like you know taking that's why they're taking the chance across these like places with no roads that that that nobody wants to civilization doesn't want to go to it's like i don't know i've just been kind of fascinated that i don't hear this discussed more about uh well how it got to be to that point it's well it's the same way why a lot of people don't want kids learning about the civil rights movement and things like that.

It's like if they knew what we fucking did, they'd be like, this place is a fucked up nightmare. So better to just deracialize the Rosa Parks story, for God's sake. So the kids figure it out, which is their solution. Much in the same way, like for all this hand-wringing about MS-13, it's like, why don't you read a fucking article about the U.S. interventions in El Salvador? And you understand that we're the reason there's MS-13. And they're like, oh, the boomerang has come back. But hey, that's for another show. Check out Behind the Bastards,

where Robert will be talking about all that kind of stuff. It's a great episode. I'm on it. Yeah. Are you? Did you do one of those? Yeah. We talked about U.S. militarization in Central America post-World we talked about U.S. militarization in Central America post-World War II. Google School of the Americas and you'll realize we had a really cool

way to train people up on being like, oh yeah, y'all want to learn how to murder people that are like, we should share the money. Stop that right in its tracks. Have a TV. They're like, they're fucking socialists, man. This is how we're fighting the Cold War. Just with this shit. What's something that you think is overrated overrated um i'm gonna go with golden retrievers i was just i was just in uh idle wild uh-huh idle wild is a place

that um i guess because it's like an unincorporated like city or whatever anyway their mayor is a golden retriever it's one of those oh really up up in the mountains yeah mountain town of Idlewild I think I heard about this a long time ago yeah mayor max who is extremely cute don't get me wrong uh-huh has nothing to do with his cuteness he's yeah yeah I mean he's a corrupt politician, of course. Yeah, exactly. He's a capitalist fucking pig. Can be easily bought. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Even more than any. It's not so much that they're corrupt. It's that the price is so low. For some milk bones, you can fucking, you're changing the police presence on your street. It's a nightmare. No, it's just that, like, so wild is like one of those like mountain towns there's like you know cabins and fucking you know whatever like like wine stores and maybe not i don't know i

don't ski but probably not skiing actually i don't think you could be out there yeah it's just one of those like you can go fucking hang out the local economy seems to mostly be based on people doing mushrooms because like every other shop has like mushrooms on the t-shirts that they sell. Oh, like on the doorway. It's like, yeah.

Like ask me about my friend, Syl. Like a lot of mushrooms. So it was really fun. But, but one of the things they have is that I like, I guess 2 PM, presumably every day,

maybe just every weekend day. I don't really know. I don't know. I probably during the week, he's hard at work, you know, growing out legislation for the good people of Idlewild. You can go meet, you can wait in line and meet Mayor Max. However, Idlewild is one of those towns,

because it's again, like kind of a hippie-ish mountain town. There are dogs fucking everywhere. Whoa. You know, just like people, people just, everyone has their like cute ass dogs. It's wonderful. Right right and like the idea like people waiting in line to see golden retrievers when there are literally like dozens of cute dogs everywhere you look is some shit that is like fucking ridiculous wait so are the dogs just roaming free like you know like you're in like kingston or

something like what are we talking about oh no People have dogs out. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's just, it's, it's a cutie town. Literally. I took it literally like, wait, there's just dogs fucking everywhere. No, no, no, no, no. Sorry. But what I mean is there's just like, right. Flavor of cute dog of any size is everywhere. And so the, the idea that like a golden retriever, let's be, let's be honest, the kind of like, you know, the cis white man. You know what you're going to get when you see one. Yeah.

It's like the boringest, wackiest dog. No offense to Mayor Max, who. Wow. You know, I like it. Yeah. The deference you've paid to the office of mayor. But yes. Yeah, exactly.

You know what? I'm just saying my chihuahua is just going to beat the, beat the brakes off mayor. Hell yeah. November. And this is, this is my opportunity. Oh my God. Can we run your,

oh my God. This is another, can we run an insurgent campaign to get your dog to be the mayor? You know what? I think the key is to get my dog to be the DA of Idlewild, the takedown mayor. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Building power. I look all the time at my old tool set of lobbyist muckraking and fuckery tools and how they're going dull. So I'm like, please give me something. I can bring this motherfucker Mac down with one print ad,

one robocall, And if we have budget, a 32nd video spot, we could. Yeah. And this day of, of, uh, you know,

digital marketing. I just think there's so many, so many viral options. I think a groundswell of opportunity. Yeah. We exploit AI where they're like, wow, mayor max is dressed as a fucking Nazi.

Okay. And his off time and he's anti-mushroom, okay? A lot of German shepherds in Mayor Max's history. What's up with that? What's up with that? I don't know. I'm just saying, it's interesting.

It's an interesting choice. I wouldn't have made that choice. Yeah. Personally. If these dogs could talk. So yeah, fuck, not fuck golden retrievers, but overrated.

I think we can agree overrated. Overrated. Agreed. Yeah. The golden retriever was like but overrated. I think we can agree overrated. Overrated. Agreed. Yeah. The golden retriever was like the dog of the 80s and 90s. Yeah. You know what I mean? Everyone fucking had was like the gold standard.

I remember like in class before I had a dog and people were like, and I have a golden retriever. And kids like, I have a golden retriever. I have a golden retriever. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Yeah. It's some eugenics shit, man. Any town that has all these like golden retriever. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Yeah. Uh, yeah. Eugenics shit, man. We had a town that has all these like golden retrievers.

Something's up. What's the golden retriever to resident ratio. That's what we need to know. You know, golden retriever specifically very small because they're the ruling class. It's like the 1% mayor max is the 1%. Wow. Wow.

I saw the cutest thing thing i saw a very fat i'm some kind of mutt but it looked like chihuahua size but like curly poodle hair but with like no fur on its tail at all like a little rat tail sticking out it was it looked like it looked like a wallace and gromit sheep right it was like the cutest thing i've ever seen and he was just rooting around in the snow bank while mayor Max was getting pet and photo ops. And I was like, this is something's up. And have you seen Mayor? Do you know who Mayor Max's father is?

That Labrador retriever. Yeah. He likes to hide where he comes from, Mayor Max. You know what I mean? His father's brown. What is something you think is underrated, Arden? Thank you so much for asking. I feel like being a good party host is underrated.

Like there's an, I take throwing a party seriously. I know this. I'll say this before you go, I will underscore, underline, cosign. I think anybody who has been to Arden's house for a party will say, yeah, you don't fuck around when you host a party. So I will give you that honor

right now. I say, yes, I agree with wherever you're going. I just want to let the audience know this is not a lie. I throw a kick-ass party. She does. I throw one a year. Here's the thing. I actually had a therapist back in the day who helped me. She was like, look, bitch, nobody, at the end of the day, you got to be a relaxed host. So the second the first guest shows up, you're done. And you got to be a guest at your own party and just trust that people are adults. And that, so I literally, I also don't believe to me, I don't, I'm not a bartender gal. I like an elegant elevated house party. I put out all the alcohol anybody could want.

So whether you're sober and trying to hide that you're sober, you mean you want to make a little like, like, you know, a little seltzer water with some bitters or whatever. Or if you're like, I'm going to drink all the alcohol in Los Angeles. I don't care. I don't give a shit. Build. How about it? Do you? Yeah.

You have some great tacos at your party. Always have. Always have. Great snacks. Oh, guisados. Excuse me. Guisados. Yeah.

Let's not be. Let's not fuck around. I know. I'm like, man, I'm here for the guisados. Guisados. Excuse me. Guisados, yeah. Let's not fuck around. I know. I'm like, man, I'm here for the guisados. Guisados. Then I also have to say, it's got to look gorgeous. And again, it can even just be from Trader Joe's flowers. Most of my flowers are like, make it look beautiful.

Hide anything you don't want stolen or broken. You hide it. And then after that, break or steal whatever you want in my house. I don't care. I didn't know that. I don't care. Okay, good to know. I'll be like, okay, if it's not hidden, it's like for grabs. I don't care. I didn't know that. I don't care. Okay. Good to know. I'll be like,

okay, if it's not hidden, it's like for grabs. I don't care. Literally. You got a nice TV, Artie. You got a nice TV on that.

Take it. I literally don't give a shit. Take it. I like your art, homie. If it's not, if it's not locked away with the cats, take it.

I don't give a shit. Then you need a little area. So like we got some shy guys. They can go like, I put a little smoker section outside. I will leave like packs of cigarettes. I don't give a shit if you want to smoke everything. Don't judge them.

They're in the smoking section. You know, and then I hire a DJ and I clear out my living room. And you don't have to dance. There's just different things to find. You got to, everybody needs an activity. But also let the shy people go hide in the corner if they want. Like leave your guests alone. They're adults.

They can do whatever they want. Don't worry about them. And just let them have at it. And, like, I always say an end time, even though it's not really an end time, but I say it to make people actually feel like they got to come. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, it ends at 11, even though it really ends at, like, 2. I say, like, 7 to 11 so that people will actually show up by, like, 1030. Right, right, right.

I love these tips. Yeah. As someone who had a wedding in the last year, that was the best advice I got because I'm very much like a people pleaser type personality. And they were like, I was like, man, I'm so fucking stressed. And I remember like my cousin-in-law or whatever was like, man, you got to like, you need to be a guest at this shit. Don't be like, you need to stop being a host. You need to be a guest right now. And that little sentence completely flipped the switch in

my brain. And I was basically out of my wedding suit and in a, you know, shorts and a Jersey within 10 minutes. Cause it's also like, if you're so worried about, cause I get so anxious if somebody doesn't know someone, like, are they going to be okay? And just trusting that, like, they're adults. They've all been to parties. There's enough little things that they can keep it moving. And, like, you know, I try not to have assholes in my life. So, like, anybody they talk to is going to be fun and cool. Absolutely.

Yeah. See, you know you're taking care of that art in Maureen's house. Yeah. There's my underrated thing. I love a party. You don't have to do it a lot, but, like, just leave your guests alone. And also, you know it's going late because she is a motherfucking night owl thank you yeah all right by the way i also leave flowers for all my neighbors in a note and i warn them in advance

it's gonna be loud and like i kind of free i sort of i just i'm like i don't leave my number for them to like text me to shut it up but i leave them like a again just trader joe's like roses it's six bucks yeah i like you but here's some flowers too yeah because yeah r.i.p to your sense of tranquility but here are the flowers just so you know please don't bother me all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about some news right after this i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

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It's really tragic. If cynicism were a pill, it'd be a poison. We'll see that our fellow humans, even those we disagree with, are more generous than we assume. My assumption, my feeling, my hunch is that a lot of us are actually looking for a way to disagree and still be in relationships with each other. All that on the Happiness Lab. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. And we're back. Trump indicted 34 counts world excited. Now we don't know if it's exactly 34 counts. I don't think it's been unsealed. But that's what sources who know have been leaking that number that is three, four counts right now. And the day has finally come. The one that apparently like Trump thought would never come. But hey, here we are. So this is in connection. This is in New York. This is in connection with the stormy Daniels hush money case. And it should be noted, this is by far the weakest case against Trump right now in terms of like the severity of charges and how defensible the charges are.

So before you start, you know, popping off and shit like that, just know this isn't done and dusted. So I'm going to go ahead and say this. This won't be the thing that puts Trump in jail, if at all. And I only say that because I'm only looking at the strength of history behind it, where criminalized presidents just don't fucking criminal, powerful people just do not typically see justice. But there's also something I was hearing from some like legal people were saying that because he has a lifelong secret service protection from being a former president, that that could complicate like the form of confinement that he would have to go under. So it's like, I don't know if like he's gonna have

secret service with him like in the yard like in the pen or anything like that or if it's something like they said more likely to be like house arrest and like the secret service acts as his you know jailers or whatever anyway it's like white house arrest could it be i know i know know. So he look, he's doing a you know, he's right now he's just he's standing by and standing back. But again, we will see what happens in that very specific way. However, it is good to see that we are seeing an actual fucking indictment because this is a first. But I'll tell you this, what will happen is this dude is going to be arraigned on Tuesday, assuming that he doesn't become a fugitive, which it sounds like his lawyer said he's willing to turn himself in. And that's probably the better way to go unless you're trying to you really think this is some Wild West shit. But I don't feel like he can run that fast. You know what I mean? No, but he'll be the thing is I come and get me. And he's like, MAGA, MAGAa smurfs assemble and fight the feds and i'm like and then when only like 15 people show up he's like oh fuck but anyway he is getting

arraigned he is gonna have to go in front of a judge like a fucking normie and then he's gonna have his prints taken he's gonna have his little mug shot taken uh just like a loser normal ass citizen would rather than you know orange god boy so let's talk about the reactions to the indictment since that's the one thing we can actually look at and talk about yes wait can i say before we get into this what you were talking about how like he is unlikely to actually like go to prison off of this there's a tweet from 2016 october 1st from at bronze hammer that was like, that's been being reposted a lot right now. That's like, well, I'd like to see old Donnie Trump wriggle his way out of this jam. Trump wriggles his way out of the jam easily. Ah,

well, nevertheless, that's what it feels like. Like it's going to happen. It's like, he's going to find some way, even like house arrest. It's going to be like, what a mansion, you know? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. And exactly. And we'll see even, you know, his his lawyers right now. And Joe Takapina is like, oh, these are like they're trying to enforce federal election laws in a New York, you know, in a New York court and blah, blah, blah. And so we'll see what the defense looks like. But I'd imagine that they feel like they have some kind of case.

And clearly the jury felt there was enough there to indict him. So we'll go from there. And I think keep in mind, too, for all the talk of like this is overblown or whatever. Michael Cohen, his ass went to jail in connection with all the shit this is about. So they determined that his actions were illegal in that case. And if Trump was the one giving the orders, then how the fuck are you going fuck you're gonna act like anyway i'm sure he'll find a way this is like oj being caught for the jerseys you know what i mean we're gonna get him on something yeah it's like when he kidnapped or like the guy who had his heisman didn't he like try and kidnap that guy or something it was where is that the jerseys thing

that he was trying to steal his like his merch back basically, in Vegas from this dude's hotel. And, you know, to that point, a lot of the people in Trump's camp are saying, like, this trial has to be OJ on steroids, I think was the phrase that was used to try and create as much of a spectacle as possible. Oh, yeah. So, first up, Trump was apparently caught the fuck off guard by this. Like he thought it would take weeks for something like this to happen or didn't even think it might even happen at all because, you know, privileged ass motherfucker. basically hopped on the phone and began his quote unquote defense, which is to basically attack and degrade Alvin Bragg and, you know, just the rule of law in general, which is something they love to evoke so much. So first I want to play this. This is just a little bit of schadenfreude. This is Fox News. The second they announced that Donald Trump was indicted. And just listen closely because you can hear the fucking, the gasps.

This is so amazing. Huh? Uh, this is Fox news announcing that Donald, this is like the break. They, the moment they break news to tell you that he's been indicted here. Uh, we have just gotten word. Former president Donald Trump has been indicted by a grand jury in New York. Trump was under investigation by one more time. We have just gotten word. Former President Donald Trump has been indicted by a grand jury. That is so funny. Y'all dumb motherfuckers.

Really? I never know. Really? He's been held to account. OK, so so we had that that's how they started things soon after jesse waters said that this indictment was a quote disgrace adding that quote no one wanted this not even the left wanted this bitch who are you talking to on the left he's like they're for abolition which i also support yeah in this very narrow context for him but yeah this is again like so we started like first i think it's funny to watch the pundits try and figure out what like the the line they were supposed to

tell was because first just like this is unbelievable and then they started coalescing around sort of this more consistent theme which we'll get to but he also was like he's like this is actually going to help trump and so like they're democrats the democrats actually did this because they think it's like it'll make him easier to beat or whatever i don't know what the fuck they're talking about but there's some real mind twisting going on greg gutfeld who has one of the top shows in late night. Comedian extraordinaire, Greg Gutfeld, who is still constantly looking for writers in case anyone on this team wants to submit for his show.

Oh, really? It's always popping up on writing opportunities. And I'm like, ooh, I could get such a bag. You know what's funny? His writer's room is fucking up because there were six hours in between when the indictment was announced and when he went to air and he didn't have anything on it they just went like their main story was whatever the fuck they had already pre-written was pro sports teams having

like like pride nights and they like at the venues they're like jurassic park they're like if we don't look it in the eyes it's not happening you know i think i don't know if yeah or they're just like they're just not nimble writers like what if we don't look it in the eyes, it's not happening. You know, I think I don't know if they're yeah, or they're just like, they're just not nimble writers. Like, what do we do? What do we say? It's bad, right? But Gutfeld just kind of went on. The only thing he said is like, this is actually really good for Trump, you know, because like, it basically guarantees his nomination and his mugshot is going to probably be his campaign poster. Oh, that's true. You know, I could see that happening. Yeah. But I'm saying at this point, I guess, I mean, you have to actually, you're going to have to steal the election, you know, pretty hardcore. If your whole thing is like,

we're only going to appeal to people who think that certain people are above the law in the context of like your political allegiances, but I'm sure it'll circle back to something because the economy's tight and he'll find some kind of fake populist message to act like he's like this actually makes me the most like man of the people candidate fucking ever I actually heard his new

campaign manager is the Hamburglar so he's leaning hard into the criminal aspect of it and the two dudes from the cookie crisp was the cookie crisp also like god was it cookie crisp uh also like burglar ass i think so i'm trying to remember okay hold on because what was the one that had like two like english cops or whatever i'm completely fucking misremembering all this

anyway zai king right in what what cereal am i trying to remember when it was like those two like bobbies that were the the logo um Tucker Carlson meanwhile he said this could be the start of the purge he's like the rule of law appears to be suspended tonight not just for Trump but for anyone who would consider voting for him this is what it seems to be it is a political purge that sounds like if Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro had a baby that's like what you just sounded like. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was a really good one. I mean, Ben is like, well, this is

absolutely ridiculous. If you actually look at the facts, I mean, this should never be happening. And in a country that we're supposedly the leaders in democracy, we're not going to really be setting an example for the other nations like Russia and China that are basically going to make a mockery of everything that's happening here. I'm scared. And my body for that. I'm scared.

And my pussy is dry. I'm sorry. No wap here. It's dap. I turned the wap to dap on that. But dap it up one time. Ben Shapiro crushing. Do you know who fucking Tucker Carlson

had on as his guest for this monumental occasion to talk about it? Fucking Adam Carolla. Bro. I can't. I cannot. What's he up to these days? I've done shows with him.

It makes sense. Yeah. He still performs at some clubs that I perform at. Wow. Yeah. When I saw a set clubs that I perform at. Wow. Yeah. When I saw a set, I was like, yeah, this makes sense. The man show went too way. The man show.

Yeah. It made a Kimmel and it made a Corolla. Yeah. I just love how that literally caused like a split. And Kimmel went left. He goes right. And here we are. But Adam Corolla, he was saying, again, he's like, this is all political theater, you know, just to bait more Trump supporters into protesting so they can be arrested.

So he's claimed a honeypot operation to get more people caught up. I thought it was Antifa, though. So he's saying that they will commit violence. I mean, that's like they're going to be violent. So you're going to get you're just trying to trigger them. Right, right, right. Exactly. You know, they're gonna be fine.

I mean, that's all they're trying to do. It's political theater for people to just. And that is obviously a huge concern. And we'll talk about that a little more. But he also claimed that there's like a religious angle to Trump's arrest because the left is a religion and Trump is Satan. So you got to get. It was very like. I think even the audience had trouble following it's very

we didn't all leave our churches and temples as teenagers and argue with our families over thanksgiving for us to be called a religion fuck you okay we're a bunch of heathens and we stand by that nothing yeah we don't even say bless you when you sneeze motherfuckers yeah i yeah when i hear when i hear someone sneeze i I say, what the fuck? I say, thank science. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.

Do you ever use that trick to look in the sun to sneeze? No. Does that trigger a sneeze for you? I don't do that. If I'm on the edge. I want to blind myself. Oh, if I'm on the edge of a sneeze, I can look straight up at the sun and it fucking brings it right on out that way i do that to pray to our lord and savior uh donald trump so because he also looks at the sun our lord and savior apollo from the apollo capital investment

group uh so i also want to touch sean hannity uh he was also oh i should say this at the end of tucker carlson's show he said some wild shit he made this offhanded comment like under his breath but clearly audible where he was like yeah might not be the best time to give up your ar-15 and can i just say about that too like i mean he's been recently there's been a lot of tucker carlson stuff where he's been talking about trans people with ar-15s yeah and then in relation yeah to the national shooting and all of that they're now like proposing no guns for trans people specifically yeah that's so you're admitting they're people well

i mean it's it's all just fucking cruelty for cruelty's sake, because, again, I think that I like to get to like the attacks on the LGBTQ community is because the Republicans cannot fucking do battle with anyone at their level. They get smashed out. So the only people they can go, they have to push the weak around because that's the only people they can. people they can and i say weak more in the sense of like marginalized or the lack of support from mainstream culture that that's sort of the way that they're eking out their victories because they're taking l's in every other arena they're like yeah but guess what we just restricted the ability for these people to be happy so that's cool right base yeah i just like i don't think that they have an end game because it's also short term like they don't care about the environment they don't care about like people dying They don't care about like people dying. They don't care about human rights

because they all just want like within their lifetime for their careers to be extended and for them to be wealthy. And I'm also like, I feel like if they had just become an influencer, like it would be easier. You know what I mean? Like there are other less stressful ways

to get the bag, dude. Like just start an OnlyFans. Like you're like, you know what I mean? You're already showing your ass on TV. Do something with ethics. A Christo fascist OnlyFans is one that I'm scared of. No, those TikTok women

who are doing the housewives bit where they're like the trad wife thing. Oh, yeah. People are like, oh, that's like a fetish. And I'm like, fuck yeah, get your bag. Get your bag and then just keep your bag there.

And please don't give your money to any political movements. Don't use it to buy guns, you know? Yeah. Trump's little infant son, Donnie Jr., decided to use some Colombian inspiration fuel to go on his, like, live stream. And then he just, like, rattled off a bunch of dictators to make some. Because, like, you know, pot um fucking duterte hitler stalin you're like what dude and he's like and trump and trump uh this would make them roll over in their graves because they wouldn't believe how authoritarian this place has come but meanwhile pretty much all of the Republicans have fallen into line to come to the defense of their orange stepfather and using their favorite tools to do so.

My buddy, anti-black racism and his cousin, anti-Semitism, because they are all doing some combination. You're hearing this on Fox nonstop right now. I was up all night with the debate with the Geist Child. He was a little fussy. I think he was excited to hear about the Trump shit. So we were just watching the news and I would look, I'm watching Fox News like 2.30. Jesus Geist, okay, of Nazar, of Nazar trends. But they're all doing some combination of dehumanizing language for DA Alvin Bragg, which is like he's a thug or he's an animal or some shit like that, and then evoking the anti-Semitism part by insisting he's a George Soros-funded thug man

to basically, I mean, this should, I guess, do their dog, and it's not even a whistle at this point, it's dog full voice screaming at this point. But yeah, they're just trying to, you know, pit. They're saying the black guy and the Jewish guy hate Trump. You see, guys, that's who the enemy is. Yeah, because he's anti-black and anti-Semitic. That's why they would hate Trump. Although, hey, I love my blacks, including the two tokens I pay to stand behind me at every rally. Thanks so much. I will be paying your hair relaxer bills you invoiced for. And here in Georgia, you know, we've got the one that Fannie Wallace is working on right now.

And she's a black woman. I just I'm like just thinking about when he gets indicted here. Yeah. Black woman where that's going to happen like already because we already know his rage for women of color. But anyway, Hannity did the smart thing, and he had two black guys on his show to go after Alvin Brad. And so I just want to play this moment where he's, I don't know who the fuck these people are,

but this one old dude just goes, he's like, he gets the crowd going and then they they they pan to a crowd shot i just want you to watch this whole clip because like there's an audience cheering but i want you to really pay attention to like the audience dude it's a very weird moment i got news every ounce every second of time i have i'll donate and i'll get news for you alvin bragg after we defeat this lawsuit we're to file a civil rights lawsuit against you for malicious prosecution. Larry, thank you both for being here. What the fuck?

So uncomfortable. Who is this man? Who is this? Oh my god. It's such a weird, like, there are people screaming. This is like a Chappelle show. That's like what Chappelle's audience looks like. A of like overexcited white dudes yeah exactly and jk

rolling to the side too but yeah so again this is just we're seeing them all kind of unify around this message alvin bragg has gone too far because he's prosecuting people that are committing crimes. Even Ron DeSantis is as couldn't resist getting self-tanner all over his mouth and said that he would not even extradite if the feds wanted him to, which really isn't a thing, but it sounds provocative. And like so many Republicans right now who are trying to run for president are looking at a moment where, you know, you could fucking maybe turn your back, but they have opted out. And, you know, I think it's as if they believe that powerful white guys should be above the law, which is like maybe unifying them. And I mean, their their genuine shock seems to really indicate as much because they say things like, oh, really for uh for like a for a federal elections

thing that's obscene like you're saying that you shouldn't that you can break the law in that instance it's a very very we're in a very sticky situation and all of this is not great for people that hope to see like less violent fuckery around trump's lies because right now like manhattan is being like fortified as they prepare for trump to turn him, turn himself in. And, you know, they're already having to like assess like the dozens of threats that are starting to come in, especially against the D.A. So it's clear he's trying to do like a January 6th style ramp up of misinformation to try and inspire some kind of violent confrontation. But we're yet to see exactly what kind of appetite there is for this. Like I know Marjorie Taylor Greene is trying to start to kick things off.

She's like, I'm going down. I'm going to New York to protest. You believe me, I'll be there Tuesday. But I don't know if that's enough time for all the dark money groups to, you know, coordinate air travel and buses for their acolytes to be violent. You gave us so much information. And it was also valuable and such a great perspective and what i have to add is that alvin bragg is such a gotham da ass name and i love it they're shutting down the island of manhattan as alvin bragg goes after the city's biggest joker yeah the country's right yeah um people have said that this is another thing, too. You go to like MSNBC.

I was watching all the news channels last night and it was wild how they're all around the clock with it. And some people look so fucking tired because it's like three thirty or four in the morning. And like pundits like, yeah, so we're going to keep saying the same five things over and over for hours. But one thing that a few people said, like, this is a somber day. over for hours but one thing that a few people said like this is a somber day you know this is the first time a former president has been indicted for crimes and and i'm like but every fucking president is a crook and and that's a basic ass level war crime like war crimer so i bet those people were sad when the queen died fuck that yeah no of course they were it's a somber day for us who believe that ascending to certain offices of power make you superhuman and therefore

you can commit like untold transgressions against untold amounts of people you just know that george bush is just like having such a field day with getting away with his work right he's like oh my god he's like that dude should have painted after he left office. His finger paintings. He's like, hey, you know, he's probably in a field right now painting. He's like finger painting Abu Ghraib. He's like, I got away with it too.

You know, just like horrors. I know, yeah, when he signs all of his paintings with a palm print on the back because he can't write. Oh, my God. Like a little doggy. Yeah. Like a preschool project.

You're humanizing him now. You don't have to feel bad. And vandalizing him. Yeah. And vandalizing him. Carmen went, aw. Aw. Being a war criminal.

Like, aw, the war criminal. Are you trying to start a little war? Yeah. Oh, how about your weapons of mass destruction? You can't find your weapons? Fucking hell. God. And what a dark world we live in.

Because honestly, all we can do is laugh at the hopelessness over the millions of lives that were completely upended by that fucking war. But, you know, if you're like a normal everyday person, this is what's sort of upsetting, right? Like you will get thrown in jail and even killed by law enforcement for less and it's about again for me i'm like it's about fucking time there's some at least demonstration that there can be accountability although i don't know what level it will get to so i will save my celebrations when shit actually gets real and we are hearing like guilty verdicts and things like that and see where that goes but it's again i'm like it's with bated breath i will i will say though it is heartening it's nice to at least see that goat shit going to this point yeah it's like

seeing a cop actually getting indicted or like you know try yeah well because like all the time you're like you know exactly like it's like seeing shit on video and you're like, that is a fucking crime. I don't even I don't. That's a crime. And now we're at least again, maybe seeing it happen here. But the thing is, he's already he's already got two trials happening this year. He's about he has two civil trials he's facing. One is a 250 million dollar fraud case in New York, the civil trial. And then E. Jean Carroll's defamation case around her

alleged the rape that she's accusing him of. So the first one, I think the $250 million fraud case starts in October and then the defamation case is in April. That man is doing more hours than I am this year. That's crazy. He is booked and busy. I need his agent. is booked and busy okay i need his agent yeah you need his terrible lawyers and aggressive like next year you see me doing the giuliani tour you're like what the fuck please don't have fake hair though that you sweat out like in the press conference what if i wiped it off right now and you were like what the fuck no he was doing drag when he did that that was drag oh yeah i'm telling him like that was i love that so much oh my god that's so funny that was good southern drag too like this even thing about like you know when you talk about accountability for presidents right like

we let nixon off the hook and that that definitely emboldened Reagan to go Iran contra the fuck up. And he was like, man, what the fuck are they going to do? You know, and now I think we're just we're seeing that momentum carry on to its logical end point or not end point, but where we are today in the form of Trump, who's only seen. These other examples of like, yeah, you can get away with shit. Like if you get to this point, yeah, you can, you can fuck around like whatever. So like I said, it's the weakest case against him.

When you look, uh, what is being investigated, like you said, Carmen in Georgia and what the DOJ is doing with their special counsel. So we'll see. Yeah. What happens and how long it takes for legal jeopardy,

his legal jeopardy to ramp up exponentially. But for now, we got, yeah, that on exponentially. That's a good one. We got that on tape. That's on tape too. But can you imagine? Legal jeopardy sounds like the most tedious jeopardy. You know what I mean?

So monotone. I don't know the laws. Yeah. What is the jurisprudence in regards to bail? I'm just regurgitating. That's your answer? No, that was like, that was this prompt like a judge in India gave to chat gpt to figure out if someone deserved bail oh really yeah that

was like gpd say like it just arrest all my overlords or what no yeah right no it was it just basically it was like looking up wikipedia it just sort of like recited the law back to this judge i knew the entire legal system was based on Wikipedia. I knew it. We all had a hunch. You don't need a lawyer. You just need ChatGPT. Right.

Oh, can you imagine? Because ChatGPT fucking passed the bar like in the top 10%, right? I think it would do a better job than Gwyneth or that other dude's lawyer. At least it wouldn't fucking simp over gwyneth the entire trial i think someone as a it's probably gonna start off as a goof where someone represents themselves at trial with the help of chat gpt oh my god and then oh fuck wow why do we have to all right that's already gpt jd to you okay yeah you know the funny thing is we could ask chat gpt to write us the the script for that movie of somebody using chat gpt actually chat gpt wrote

this episode i don't know if you know that carmen like everything that's coming out of your voice is chat gpt i'm chat gpt we all are in a way we all are chat GPT that's gonna be some fucking dumb TED talk when we're at the precipice of like cultural apocalypse when they're like in a way we are all chat GPT and we should embrace the fucking darkness

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just throttle off you know trump and Trump and get on to DeSantis because he knows how to do this stuff well and he's smarter. And he is all those things. The one thing, though, that he just does not have, despite his like, you know, quote unquote, keen legal eye to be as cruel as possible, is that he has no fucking charisma. And there's nothing interesting about him, except that he wears cowboy boots in the weirdest times.

And I'm thinking just because he likes to get a couple inches off them heels, and that's why he does it. But that's like he really lacks any kind of magnetism outside of his ability to be really cruel through his legislation in the state of Florida. And ever since then, ever since that midterm moment, it's been a slow slide back down the charts you know it came out with a strong single but the album people just didn't aren't

buying and he's had moment after moment where trump would send some you know shade his way like trying to smear him and he would just back down or fucking hide from the media so he didn't have to talk about taking an l so publicly. And so when you see that, you're like, Oh, he has no appetite to actually, you know, do battle with Trump in any way that you'd need to eventually,

if you're really trying to go for this nomination in the Republican side. But I think we're really beginning to see the limits of this man. Like, you know, if you were a Pokemon card and you flipped them over and you look at the stats, he would have negative 120 charisma points. His weakness

would be standing up for himself and his special attack would be eats pudding with three fingers. If you heard the... There's an anecdote about how he eats pudding with his bare hands. Yeah, anyway. That's not me just making up. That's me

taking from the rip from the headlines folks that i really enjoy eating with my hands but pudding what what no no you like meat with your bare hands or like get bread dipping stuff like there's something very tactile eating with your hands but not blitting sir gross yeah i think desantis' real problem is the fact that he can't straddle the line appropriately to reach both Trump and connect to his past. Right. So he went to Yale, you know, whether he earned it or did anything good while he was there is up in the air. But he went to Yale, which means you're an elitist. You're getting rid of all of these books, but you kind of have all of this past history with. But I've read all of them and love them.

It's just I don't think he can do like you. You have to go full dumb slash like hostile towards academia. Yeah. Yeah. You have to be so in your corner. Like the reason Trump got to be so successful is because he was like like i will literally not hear any argument that isn't my own thought i'm not going to come to the table or debate you there's no backing down so either you have to be trump essentially and meet him with all of that energy or you're totally screwed and you're and because you're pandering to an already very specific alienated audience

there's nowhere to go from there like sensible republicans wherever they are if they still exist are not looking at desantis as an option right that's not far enough away from trump for them and trump is still out here working so they not, his followers are not looking to replace him. They don't know what hole DeSantis is trying to fill with this craziness. Other than, you know, failing to try to like take down Disney and making sure kids can't read, I guess.

And eating pudding with his three fingers. That is a disgusting image. You know what it's from? So it's like this apparently happened four years ago. It was on a private plane from Tallahassee to DC in 2019 2019 plane where they provide you with silverware i'm sure sir it's all as it goes is he enjoyed a chocolate pudding dessert by eating it with three of his fingers according to two sources familiar with the incident again i don't know if it's true but i love if this is fake i love this kind of shit like be like yo this guy eats pudding with three fingers like in front of people who he knows are writing about him there's a lot of questions to be asked here because it's not like privately with your buddies

where you're like listen i know it's gross but this is not like it but maybe that's just like maybe that's his tack to populism like trump did he's like yeah i mean who doesn't eat you know pudding with their three fingers you know i'm a regular american people like yeah fuck spoons man yeah and then he found something it resonates with the toddler demographic 100 i also love just the idea that that that what's what is happening on private planes where he him and amy klob, she's eating salad with a comb. He's eating pudding with three fingers. They're both looking at de Blasio going, eating pizza with a fork going, what's this maniac doing over here?

That guy's a real weirdo. Yeah. You know, and you're right, though. It's like an impossible situation. So, you know, Trump comes along and he's the new hit movie and all the other studios try to make the same movie again. But they don't understand is that you can't you can't be Trump to Trump. That's like a contradiction of the whole thing. You you can't like because if you're Trump to Trump, you alienate the Trump base and you need those people. Right. Or you don't be Trump to Trump and then you're

not being Trump at all because Trump doesn't take exceptions to Trump. So really, the only real viable options, I think, for a Republican right now is to sort of like kiss the ring of Trump, sort of like support him until he just fades away. And then when he doesn't want to run anymore, get his blessing and then run. And that's one way to be successful, because if you blast him, if you do this, like, you you don't this wavy thing then you you're either you're losing his base which you need to like win you know or you're just not being him and they don't have they like you're you're not being the trump that we want you to be the other option you can be and i don't know why i i kind of wish nicki haley didn't go down the route nicki haley could be this person where she's like, I'm not going to play this DeSantis Trump game, you know, and I'm just going to be this like old school Republican

where I just am not going and hate and everything. And it feels like even she's like taking a page from this Trump stuff. If any Republican could come out. Well, go ahead. No, to your point, and I think I'm just finishing your thought is they all this is what has happened. They all are in fear of the influence that he has. And they have to just sort of like model themselves after it. David Frum in the Atlantic sort of puts it this way. He's like, he's like, why are you going to fucking like buy the tribute band album when you could just buy the original album? You know what I mean?

Like, why are you fucking with the tribute band? Because they're not going to do it as well as him. And that's kind of like this weird position that you're in right is like the the thing is i think the only way you can differentiate is to truly differentiate and like to your point is disagree with him out loud or say shit like yeah this dude is a mess and his law breaking is not a good look but every person that says that ends up getting the fucking buzzsaw and they're like, ah, they run away from it very quickly. And the few that stood up to it, they're like, all right, I'm not running for reelection.

So it's like almost like, do you have the metal to actually attempt to do that? Because that would be the only way you could do it. But I don't know if there's enough in like the national conversation on the right that everyone is feeling like, yeah, man, that's bad. We do need to move on from him because people are still talking about January 6th in some corners and things like that. Yeah. If you have if you were sort of like a more moderate Republican, OK, and you wanted to you're trying to get that like whatever the eight percent of people that decide every election or whatever, you know, you could base. You're not going to you're not going to lose QAnon because QAnon's those MAGA people there.

They their hate for Joe Biden outweighs, you know, their love for Trump or whatever. So if like if it's between you and anti-Trumper and Joe Biden, they're still going to vote for the anti-Trump Republican because they hate Joe Biden so much. And I think there's a lot of people in the middle that are undecided, that are tired of all of this, like, you know, dissent is where the woke goes to die is Florida and Trump liberals. They're ruining this. They're tired of all this hatred. It's over. You know, it's like they've seen all the Marvel movies and they're kind of tired of superhero shit right now. They want to they want something a little bit. They loved it for so long. And now they want something a little bit different. And especially like men like republican men running for office there's like this through line of like hey i'm buck fuckville and i'm running for congressman and guess what i made love to this pile of bullets before the director said action because i'm about your second amendment rights and you know what

i was always told one thing to never back down from a fight. And that's what I swear to do. I will never back down from a fight unless it's with Donald Trump. The second he calls my name out. And which is so funny that for all this like posturing of like, I'll never back. That's all they do. And I know. But again, I think it's all in service because like the people that it's attracting aren't necessarily thinkers they're all mimics and the mimicry is getting to a certain point and yeah it's hard to know like you know who ends up on top but i just do want to play this one clip because it is kind of satisfying this is from like ron desantis's like i might be running for president tour where he's also like hawking a book but he goes to iowa very you know a very strategic place to visit when you're thinking about running for president. And this event was so backwards. Like the second he comes on the stage, the stage crew took the like struck the podium from the stage.

And then DeSantis gets all confused. He's like, my podium, my podium's gone. And then you hear the governor being like, he needs his. Just listen to how like how smooth this is and we'll just take in a bit of schadenfreude for how you know uh lackluster his tour is actually going there they go the podium he was about to speak at the lectern thank you all right well they took that okay did you take my podium away from me? Oh, Jesus.

They took the podium. Well, it's great to be with you. Greetings from the free state of Florida. We want the podium back. You know, I love Family Guy, and this is one of my favorite episodes of Family Guy. I listen to Lois. Where'd the podium go? I don't know where it went. How's everybody doing here?

All right. Can we get the podium back? Peter. Peter, we need the podium back. Peter, wait. This reminds me of the time I became king at Disneyland. So, yeah. Apparently, what's funny, too, is he was working

with an events company that does a lot of the top draw conservative events. They they backed out of their contract with DeSantis's campaign because they're like, dude, his they like apparently their belief is his like his campaign's a mess. And they don't want people they don't want people to start associating his fucked up events with their company. Like like with that podium thing. And they're like, you know what? Probably better off. with their company, like like with that podium thing. And they're like, you know what? Probably better off.

We don't like we normally work with like the most vile, racist, xenophobes, transphobes, homophobes, all the phobes you can, you know, imagine. It's just a bridge too far. You're just unprofessional about it. So we will see where he ends up. You know, and you're right, too, that nobody has seen DeSantis talk for a length of time. They get these little sound bites. And when you if you're going to see DeSantis, if he goes in a debate with Trump, Trump will destroy him because Trump is a performer.

He's Don. He's the Don Rickles of the Republican Party. And he can just take them all down. And he's not going to be he has a couple of talking points that he has that he works into stuff. But he's not he's not good on the fly. And he sounds like kind of Kermit the Frog a little bit. but he's not he's not good on the fight and he sounds like kind of kermit the frog a little bit and um and and yeah just as soon as people like hear him talk it's it's it's going to be bad it it and it kind of reminds me the other thing is like i don't know if we're gonna get into the marjorie taylor green thing at all but i don't know if we have time but yeah but go on okay but but here's here's what they like about DeSantis.

Because all you need to do to be a Republican candidate is like one sound bite of you telling somebody to shut up. You know, like you turning around to a press going, hey, how about you shut up? And then people are like, I like this guy. And so they've seen DeSantis. They like that he'll say shut up. I think he told a kid to put a mask on one time. They loved how he talked to that little kid. No, he's like, take it off.

He's like, take it off. You don't need it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To a teenager or whatever the kid was. Yeah, no, a literal teenager, a child. Take it off. And they like a guy who's like rude and sort of goes against everything they sort of preach to, a very unchristian way to sort of speak to people. But they like that.

They like a guy who's like not afraid to tell somebody to shut up. And we won't have time to get into marjorie taylor green thing on 60 minutes but like you know that that is why that that is sort of the problem with the marjorie taylor green 60 minutes episode is that you know they they whatever uh there's just they let her talk and that's fine you should let her talk but, you know, people like her because she is the type of person who gets on and tells people to shut up. Right. And,

and then they're like, Oh, I like that. But you have to show the, if you don't show the whole breadth of what she does, you're misrepresenting why people are criticizing her. And she's like the perfect example of like, what has been going on systemically,

I guess, for in Congress for forever, which is people come in like DeSantis and Marjorie Taylor Greene and go, Congress is full of bums. We got to get rid of the bums. Right. And then they become the bums. And then who are you, though? I'm a Facebook bum, but I just got to Capitol Hill. I'm one of the bums on Facebook, but we're moving on up, folks. got to Capitol Hill. I'm one of the bums from Facebook, but we're moving on up, folks. You lost a shot.

I mean, it's a merry-go-round. And yeah, it's just Ron DeSantis, I hope that you can find the exit door as quickly as possible. Get the fuck out. I mean, we'll see. Again, we just don't know what is going to happen. He may have some new

material, or we don't. But oh, to your point, Nick, I was going to say, like, he's not going to be able to go toe to toe with Donald Trump because Donald Trump is like just a bully. You know what I mean? He'll fucking he'll say whatever the fuck he wants to you. Ron DeSantis isn't like that. And if Trump was like, look at you, everybody, you should see his shoes he's wearing right now.

How many inches do those add, Ron? About three inches. So what? So what? Without them? So with them, you're five, six. So with them, he's wearing right now how many inches do those add ron all right about three inches so what so what without them so with them you're five six so with them he's probably about five three folks your boy right here look at these i'm wearing flip flops these are flat as can be i'm six three bring the tape measure out and then ron de samos would be like um i just i just don't think that that's germane to this conversation like you lost bro you said germane okay it ain't gonna fucking work. Unless you can come back with like,

oh yeah, I was just actually reading the Stormy Daniels thing, and you know, I heard your favorite character in the Super Mario world is Toadstool, if you get what I mean. All right, anyway. And then DeSantis gets the gamer vote. But anyway, we shall see.

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