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Episode Date: June 10, 2018

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What's a myth? What's something people think is true that you know based on your personal experience? This is, okay, so this weekend, okay, so I would say this myth is that you should talk about things that upset you in a public place. But I think this is true. I was with a friend from college this weekend. We went to Denny's, and I was talking about— The most public of places. The most public.

We were fully in the Atwater Denny's, getting into the thick of it. Right. Hadn't caught up in a while, and we, like, got onto this. Like, I was basically just, like, talking with her about one of the worst things that had ever happened to me. And it was like kind of an emotional conversation. And we were talking and drinking coffee. And then all of a sudden, Who Let the Dogs Out came on full blast in the restaurant. And we just like looked at each other like, we have to stop talking. This conversation over it's inappropriate with this music on and i was like i think i'm actually over it now because so uh yeah talk about talk about your past traumas

in denny's i think is my recommendation yeah because their their radio is wild yeah maybe we'll have to have that be a pre-loaded sound drop we do when people start getting really dark shit. Then suddenly we just, Nick, hit it. Who let the dogs out? Guys, I was just talking about my, anyway. You're like, I was talking about how my father left. And they're just like, who let your dad out? All right.

We should have remixed it. By the way, the guy who wrote that song credits the 48 Laws of Power for giving him the inspiration. No, I don't think that's true. No, I'd be surprised because nearly everybody in hip hop, including Kanye, Jay-Z, Drake, everybody. Now, I want to talk about this sort of narrative of Trump being on a winning streak. People are saying that his popularity is surging because it's up, I think, two percentage points into the low 40s, which is good for him.

Hey, low 40s are the new- Because it's been in the 30s for so long. Are the new high 60s, baby? Exactly. I do want to talk about something that I think is powering this. I don't want to get into that narrative of Trump is great at his job. I do think that there's a way in which he sucks at his job that is actually making it possible for him to have those wins. And that is just complete and utter shamelessness. And the thing that crystallized

this for me was the North Korea meeting and the sending of the letter and where he came out strong. The meeting wasn't happening. We're calling it off because you've mistreated us. And then immediately was willing to completely backtrack on that, which seems weird. But I also think it's worth noting that there's not a single president we've ever had, I don't think, who would be shameless enough to do that to just be like that inconsistent

put your foot down and be like okay there's no logic there's no reasoning there's no idea that he has to be this solid leader he's just whatever at the moment grabs him it's like playing out

iMessage's thread between him and Kim Jong-un. Right, exactly. Fuck you, don't come. I don't want to see your ass. He's like, I'm sorry, baby. Okay, what in? June 12th? Yeah.

Yeah, and this could go either way. Yeah, it's like a relationship between two 19-year-olds. And maybe that's why it works. It's reality television. If anything, I feel like the only possible positive spin on this is that the people around Trump are getting better at leveraging his weaknesses to make something good happen. It has nothing to do with him as an individual. He's still a fucking loser. Right, for sure.

But I don't know. call the north korea summit a win at all at any point because i honestly north korea wins a lot more just by even getting this summit than we do yeah sure maybe three uh prisoners were like released but aside from that like you know there's a lot that north korea gains especially kim jong un gains in the propaganda wars that he has not been able to be seen legitimately like you know by other powers because he hasn't met with like real world leaders because they won't do it and for him to get this opportunity like yo that picture's gonna be on like a fucking t-shirts already like they love the envelope that he was holding when like the ex-spy chief of north korea came to hand deliver that letter to trump over the weekend what What a weird photograph. Yeah. It looked like it was photoshopped

to make the envelope huge. Yeah, exactly. His hand's tiny. His face was very strange. In a way, that could be genius trolling from North Korea, too. They're like, yo, get the biggest fucking envelope you can get, and then get the photo of him holding it.

So his hands look wild. It's a very uncanny valley. There's a Polar Express quality to that. It really looks like it could have been designed by your guy from who designed the chucky cheese like he he could be in the hall of presidents shout out vector yeah that's a fair point and a lot of this sort of surging and you know trump being seen in a slightly more favorable light could easily just be that the mainstream media narrative of, holy shit, this guy is constantly fucking up and such a total fuck up has just become exhausting.

We knew that was going to happen eventually, that the mainstream media was going to be like, nobody wants to hear about him screwing up anymore. People are in the mood for optimism. So we're doing a pretend? Oh, like he totally fucked up and so good that we're in a war. I don't know how at that point what you do. I mean, you got to keep the pressure on him and people have to remember how bad he is because for exactly the reason that people become like apathy will set in and then this will become totally normal. And next thing you know, we have even more white supremacist and Nazi fucking candidates running for office and people want to put them on CNN. Like, yeah, let's hear this guy out.

He says African-Americans have IQs 20 points low. Get the fuck out. What the fuck is going on? Yeah. So anyway, keep the pressure up. My only thought with the North Korea thing is that the difference between now and in the past is that they do have intercontinental ballistic missiles

that can potentially reach America now. And I think other presidents may have been more in keeping with general military strategies of like being hardline and maybe not meeting with him. And he's just so fucking thirsty for a win and shameless that he will call off the meeting and then be like, no, I never called off the meeting. You called off the meeting. You're an idiot. You're lying. Moving on. And another shameless thing that he's doing that I definitely don't think is seen as a win, but it just is another example of just staggering shamelessness is he and his lawyers are laying the groundwork for him to pardon himself. It's crazy, though like they're really they're like well

he is the embodiment of the law therefore he cannot obstruct it to be it's really and you know that's gonna be like an event oh yeah oh yeah he pardons himself i hope he pardons himself as if he is a turkey on thanksgiving a smaller version of himself and he's like it's okay or or like normally when he pardons a turkey he's like and today i will pardon myself president donald trump ha ha ha i am god yeah but so it's if we approach it like the turkey it's like okay we pardon you but it's still okay for you to be uh killed and eaten. Right. This way they talk about like their their logic about him basically saying, well, I can't obstruct because I am the law is saying, quote, the Constitution leaves no question that the president has executive authority over the ultimate conduct and disposition of all criminal investigations and over those executive branch officials responsible for conducting those investigations. officials responsible for conducting those investigations thus as set forth more fully below as a matter of law and common sense the president cannot obstruct himself or subordinates acting on his behalf yeah okay and a lot of the shamelessness is just him knowing that he has a

portion of the population that will support him no matter what because racism well also people who are like the fucking constitution man the constitution if you read that shit you would understand that this is basically the antithesis of what the people were trying to do when they wrote the constitution yeah yeah and also just laws of human society like the pope can't even pardon himself no kings like so many throughout the history of the world so many kings have been deposed and like beheaded and right uh you know that's just not a thing you ever give even people with absolute authority the power to do like you can't just be like and i hereby treat myself as the convict in

question and give myself an excuse it just doesn't this is just like more high level trolling like what what that and just it shows you i mean it's heating up this is clearly you don't have to start talking like this you know you're trying to inoculate your base into being like hey i'm just letting y'all know when i do this and people act like i can't do it you can point to this letter saying why i pardoned myself because things look increasingly more and more difficult for him. Sounds like democracy to me. Yeah, right. I mean, like, yeah, I think many people like people have always said throughout this whole thing, none of his actions are the actions of an innocent person.

And I don't think anyone has any question that there's some some kind of shit went down. We don't know to what extent. But this just smacks of just guilt and right doing whatever you have to to avoid responsibility if you had any self-awareness about whether or gave a shit whether you appeared guilty or innocent you would not even broach the subject of pardoning yourself weirdly Giuliani on the Sunday shows yesterday was like and he would probably be immediately impeached so we were not even raising the issue of that but he could but he could if he wanted that's so funny because like randomly he's still trying to like play the reason card where

it's like of course he wouldn't because that would upend the constitution a full-blown constitutional crisis but he could if he wanted to but he could if you wanted to. But he could if he wanted to. Do you guys think, you said high level trolling. I had this specific thought when I was listening to you guys last week talk about the Melania thing. That it almost seems, do you think there's anyone in that organization who is sort of programming the mainstream media and social media to focus on these other stupid bullshit problems? Because the Melania thing is so weird and so specific that she's not appearing in the media. And then they put out that statement where it was clearly written by Trump and it was almost intentionally, seems like it could have been intentionally suspicious is do you think there's any chance that they're just doing this to you know force the opposition to burn calories i don't know i mean i think that there's something to that i don't know it's it's hard to think too

hard about that without going down like a conspiracy rabbit hole right but i mean this white house i mean most white houses but like this White House in particular is definitely good at the misdirect of being like, hey. And they don't mind because Trump is such a fucking idiot. Like they don't mind selling him out and making him look like an idiot to distract from something actually sinister that is happening. Yeah. But also the Melania thing just sort of played out in a very organic way. It's like we haven't seen her in a long time. I think they're straight up plagiarizing Shelly Miscavige. They're just like, yo, this turned some heads back in the day.

Maybe we could do a hot replication. In my mind, I really just think she is like burning out, trying to like deal with all that shit. I don't know. I feel like there's also a version where she just doesn't, was like, Melania, will you come out to this? And he's like, no. Right.

Not going anywhere anymore. I cannot today. Yeah, and then it's just sort of like after like weeks, you're like, Melania, will you come out to this? And he's like, no. Right. Not going anywhere anymore. I cannot today. Yeah, and then it's just sort of like after weeks, you're like, damn, she hasn't showed up anywhere. And then people start speculating, and then there's a response. I don't know if they're like, okay, this is what you're going to do. You're going to stay in the shadows. You're going to be in the cut for five weeks, and then people are going to be like, where's Melania? And then we can use that to cause a distraction.

Yeah. I think there's so many other ways to do it. She's rolling around in a disguise like when bono got into that bike accident and they found out that bono travels around new york dressed as a rabbi do you remember that story wait no what got into like a near fatal biking accident and they were like weird this rabbi who got in this biking accident as they were putting him in the ambulance has a fake beard on and this is a disguise and they pulled it off and it was from you too oh my god he was like yeah this is a disguise. And they pulled it off and it was Bono from U2.

Oh, my God. And he was like, yeah, this is how I get around without being mobbed by people. He's like, yeah, where are you staying? On Broadway in East Catarse Street. Trump has decided to disinvite the Eagles to the White House because as the video package on Fox News showed, the Eagles all were kneeling during the anthem. So their social justice warrior, non-patriot.

Get out of here. Oh, wait, no, that was a video of them actually kneeling in prayer. Yeah, or players from the season before who don't even play on the team anymore. Right, and there are no players on the season before who don't even play on the team anymore. Right. And there are no players on the team currently who kneeled during the anthem. But basically, a couple of them had said they aren't interested in visiting the White House because they disagree with the Trump administration on everything. Yeah, that's what was funny about it is that they're like, because they want to kneel.

And it's like, no, no, they just, a lot more than that. Yeah. You just got nafammed. Yeah. And you're like, well, hurry up. Outrage some kind of fake outrage. Here we go. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's really Trump's number one move is, you know, dump them before they dump you. Yeah. That's what he did with Kim Jong-un. Yep. That's what he's doing with the Eagles. Maybe he hopes it's going to work. Right.

Yeah. Maybe it's going to, like, come back and he's's gonna be like they he thinks the eagles are gonna be like we're sorry i'll be like okay you can come to my house tussle my hair yeah it's just so disingenuous and like when fox put that package together like and people just called them out immediately to come back and be like oh that was a mistake. But clearly they were crafting together as much images to try and create this narrative that was just total bullshit. Yeah, it's wild. It's wild just how much misinformation is just being put out and just blatantly and then trying to just walk it back by like,

oh, this was a mistake. Like, no, normally journalists get fired for stuff like that. Yeah, well, again, this is different. Yeah, we'll see. was a mistake like no normally journalists get fired for stuff like that yeah well again this is different yeah we'll see i mean it's funny because i don't think this is going to be the only team not going to the white house because i think as lebron james said he said no matter who wins the finals ain't nobody really wants to go to the white house so don't worry about us yeah and then steve kirk came out and was like, maybe things will return to normal in three years. That is optimistic. It's also interesting that they mistook people kneeling in prayer for people kneeling during

the anthem, because those are equally conspicuous on-field displays of personal belief and taking a political stance. But everybody's really OK with, especially people on the right, are okay with kneeling in prayer. And, in fact, probably it makes them like the players better when they kneel in prayer. A hundred percent. Remember how people loved Tebow? No matter how bad he sucked and they really tried to keep him in the league no matter how bad he sucked. And the other guy, then the black guy tried kneeling and no matter how good he was, they could not put him on a team.

Right. Yeah. Well, it's funny. We were speculating what that number looked like of how many players, like what that threshold was to activate petty Trump.

Right. Less than 10 players from the Eagles said that they didn't want to go. And that was too much of a slight. Plenty. For President impotence. Jeff Bezos called a meeting around the holidays.

This is common. He has like daily meetings that they refer to as like the war room. I don't know where they came up with that. That's brilliant. But so he takes customer service very seriously. Just for context, the way that he will, he reads every email that comes to him. He still – if you want to email Jeff Bezos, you can.

Jeff at Amazon.com, and he will read your email. He reads everything because he's like an actual supercomputer. We will get him to acknowledge the show. Yeah, we're going to start. We will troll him. Have you emailed him? I'm going to start doing it. We haven't.

We just found this out today, and that is going to be at least 50% of our time. I'm like, you look weak, homie. Pull up. I'm in North Hollywood. But then he will forward emails that are critical of products or services that Amazon provides to the person in charge of that with just a question mark. That's got to be so stressful. Just such a fucking power play.

And that's got to be just such a fucking stressful. So I've also heard from people who were considering jobs at Amazon and they, you know, talk to other people who worked at Amazon. And these are people to work at Amazon. You have to have a lot of success and like, you know, have had a career up to that point. You have to have been a successful business person. And they said that people regularly cry in the office, like just regularly get broken down. In the office, not like in the warehouse? In the office. Because I know the warehouse is like a whole other scenario. Right. So that is bad. Yeah. No, those people cry because they just don't get breaks.

Right. Oh, but the executives are even like... The executives regularly are broken down into tears. But just a great illustration of what that looks like. So during an executive meeting around the holidays, he had gotten maybe a couple emails in his inbox about their slow customer service time and how long it takes when somebody calls in to get somebody to answer the phone. And the VP of customer service was like, look, we are, according to my reports, down to under a minute. I don't know what you're talking about, Jeff Bezos. And he was like, oh, really?

Let's see. And he called Amazon customer service, put it on speakerphone in this meeting, and just waited and made just intense eye contact with everybody in the room as stretched on for a minute, two minutes, three minutes. By four minutes, it might as well have been like a year and a half because everyone was just like had sweat all of the water in their body out. And then the person finally answered the phone and was like,

can I help you? And he was like, nah, and hung up the phone. So that VP apparently resigned less than a year later. And that's the sort of fucking no bullshit craziness that it takes to run Amazon. Awesome. My guy, don't lie if something can be so easily verified. Like, yeah, we're down to under a minute yeah oh oh oh really motherfucker maybe that's kind of a thing that's not able to be measured because yeah i bet that's their record time but uh you know what if you called it like a high volume time like what are you saying just

at this point you're saying i need customer service people just standing on deck, not doing anything, waiting for the moment that someone calls. And at that point, you're just kind of throwing away money. That's someone's decision to go, we can't just throw money. That's a really good point. You can't make broad decisions about customer service. But I mean, the way that Amazon runs their business is they will just spend and spend and spend until they have the best possible product, the best solution to a problem, and not worry about cutting costs or whatever. That's why they were never profitable. But that's not a business practice that anyone has, is just to have your on-deck customer service reps just hanging out, reading a magazine. To just throw endless amounts of money away at something like customer service reps. Just hanging out, reading a magazine. To just like throw endless amounts of money away

at something like customer service. They're like, no one does that. You're taking a huge hit in customer service. I mean, customer service is great, but we're losing 3 million a year because you just have people sleeping in there. That's what customer service is. You call, you have to wait.

Yeah. Yeah. What's the longest you've waited for any kind of customer service? I have had experiences where I've had to like go do a meeting while like I have my headphones on listening to the customer service call. And then like the person picks up and like it was like an hour and a half. Right.

Picks up and hangs up before I can like get out of the meeting. Oh my. And I forget what I was waiting for, but it was infuriating. Sounds like a cool stand-up. Probably the DMV. Yeah. And the only reason I bring this up on today's episode is because this is who our president is picking a fight with. And I would hate this guy in all other scenarios, but we live in a Trump v. Bezos world, or we might be living in a Trump v. Bezos world.

What did he do? What's happened now? Well, no, just Trump has shown just hostility toward Amazon. Or the Washington Post. Yeah, and the Washington Post. Because of the Washington Post and also because Amazon puts a lot of brick and mortar businesses out of business. And Trump's background is in real estate. So he is constantly talking shit about- Trump's background is in real estate. So he is constantly talking shit about-

Trump's background is in failed businesses. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the other thing is that they are polar opposites in the sense that Jeff Bezos runs one business and has become the richest person in the history of the world and has just made that business incredibly successful. Whereas Trump has run many businesses and fucked them all up. It's not that rich.

They're opposites in that respect. Not that rich a dude. Yeah. Did you guys ever do a deep dive on that in any of the shows that you wrote for? We did many deep dives. And did he call and threaten to sue? Oh, you know, no. No, no, no.

I was thinking maybe something weird happened, but no, no. There was, we did a lot of Trump at last week tonight. Yes. And, I mean, I left right after, the election was 2016, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Time just is not linear to me. It's all blending together. Yeah, so I left, that was my last season, and then they continued to really go in on him because, you know, how can you not? That is definitely true. But it's hard to – it's just a nightmare to have – like all through the election when we were working on –

it became more and more Trump, and it became more and more depressing. It's very hard to sort of do that. We've pushed through to the other side where we're just insane and don't even know what's real anymore. Right. We honestly believe we're in the matrix. That's the only way I can deal with it. You might have thought we were joking.

But yeah, we... I was rattled to my core when you said, when you tried to explain Deja Vu because I needed to be in the matrix. I need this shit to be in the matrix. Sorry. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

And we're back. All right, guys. The primaries were yesterday. It was the Super Tuesday of the primary season. And, yeah, the Democrats avoided disaster in California. And, yeah, the Democrats avoided disaster in California. You know, the parties seemed to, I don't know, prove that they can still swing it around a little bit. Nate Silver's analysis was that, yeah, a lot of the chosen candidates by the major parties, the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, were the ones who ended up winning. Party and the Republican Party were the ones who ended up winning. And the disaster scenario that Democrats had been worried about in California, which was that because California is called a jungle primary, it's essentially the top two candidates, no matter what party they're from

in the election, the top two vote-getting candidates just end up running against each other. It doesn't matter if it's two Republicans, two Democrats. And in a lot of these districts, because there was so much energy behind Democrats at this time, there were too many Democrats running against each other. And it came down to the wire in a lot of cases. And in some cases, it's still a possibility that it will be two Republicans. There's some that are pretty close, but it looks like- Really, really close. But it looks like they kind of made it through by the skin of their teeth.

So the Democrats are still alive in a lot of the races that they need to be alive in, basically all of them. You're saying there's too many Democrats? That's what we're- So there were too many Democrats running against each other and they were splitting the votes. That's, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jesusesus christ um when are we gonna get it together right so i in

some cases they managed to get uh like the people who weren't going to make it through to drop out and you know those people still were on the ballot and they still got some of the votes, but they didn't get enough to siphon off votes from the people who were actually threatening to make it through and be one of the top two candidates. Well, here's what I want to know. Who among us voted for the puppeteer? For the puppeteer? For governor. Gavin Newsom? If there was a candidate. He's not the, never mind. Who's the puppeteer for the puppeteer governor i gavin newsom no if there was a candidate he's not the

nevermind which was the puppeteer there was one person i think at the top of oh you mean the guy who's the literal fucking puppeteer yes no i i know what you're talking about i saw that i was like i mean there was my hand just kind of went to his name and i was like don't you do it don't how fun would that be having a puppeteer yeah just uh you know proscenium he's just working out of there the whole the whole time then there's that guy peter lu who had the weird hat on who was like making a bunch of videos anyway there's there were a lot of interesting people who were running for governor but that's the thing with california so many weird people have ran for governor is that a thing that always happens we get like 27 people running yeah i remember when like after gray davis when it was you know left office was recalled right yeah uh the all the people that like ran

like mary carrie the adult film star and like all kinds it was like a circus and then it was then ended up being arnold schwarzenegger right people People saw that Schwarzenegger was running and they were like, well, fuck it. I guess I can do this too. Yeah. So in the California State Senate, it looks like it's actually going to be two Democrats. It's going to be Feinstein and Kevin de Leon, who is sort of a further left Democrat. So the speculation is that might depress Republican turnout because most people go to the polls to vote for the top of the ticket races. And that's the big race. And if Republicans don't have a candidate to vote for,

that's going to make fewer of them want to come out. But the other big statewide election was the gubernatorial race. And it was speculated that Villaraigosa, the former mayor of Los Angeles, might make it through to second and make that one also to Democrats, in which case the Democrats really would have been in business, but that did not come to pass. Villaraigosa was a distant third. Yeah, despite spending many monies. Yeah, many, many monies. And the Republicans came through with a guy named John Cox, who was the choice of the RNC,

despite the fact that he appears to be a and I think I have this right a fucking loser that was the that was the research done by super producer Sophie Lichterman but that really doubled down on the loser really doubled down on it she was like make sure you say that he is a fucking loser and not even like that he's like you know know, lame. He hangs out with the weird emo kids. He just loses a lot. He does not have a record of winning. Yeah. He's run a lot of Illinois political campaigns.

He's from Illinois. He lost in the Republican primary race to be a congressperson from Illinois in the 10th congressional district. He lost a lot in Illinois. Ran to be president in 2008. Lost before anyone had even heard that he was running to be president. Then he went- He ran for president? Yes. He ran for president.

Wait, and what's he running for? Now he wants to be governor. Now he wants to be governor of California. He was running for governor. So just wait, because he was so humbled by his failed presidential bid that he next ran for neighborhood legislature and lost. So he has not done very well in electoral politics up to this point, but he endorsed Trump, Trump endorsed him, and so he is now running against Gavin Newsom, who, again, a hunk. We were talking about a lot of hunks, hunkage on this episode. But, yeah, so we'll see where that goes. California's having some Newsom.

Yeah. Right? These are some of the jokes. I'm telling you, stay tuned for more. But, you know, I think, well think the neighborhood legislature thing was a ballot initiative. Okay. It wasn't him running for the thing. Okay.

But the thing that he put on the ballot. Yeah, he tried to get on there four times, I think. Yes. And it didn't happen. When do you just give up? You don't, but I think when you're- You just keep going until you become the candidate for governor, I guess. Does he have hobbies?

I mean, he needs to get into something else. I don't know. Losing? Wearing him down. I don't know what he does. He looks like a guy who just kind of sleeps sitting upright in a room. I don't see much beyond his visage. Hey, speaking of hip- hop and Kanye, he released

an album last week. Let's get into what people are thinking and talking about right now. The Kanye album, I think you guys touched on a little bit on Friday. We've had a weekend to listen to it. I think, I don't

know, my overall takeaway is that it's very uneven and probably the worst thing he's ever done. But it also has really high highs like a lot of his projects do. I really like the first song. The second and third are solid. I really like Ghost Town. like Ghost Town, the song to his daughter about how he doesn't want her to be hot is the worst thing he's ever done.

It's like the rap version of one of those Matt Damon quotes that starts out, as a father of daughters, I understand, crossed with one of those purity ball events in the South where daughters promise their chastity to their fathers uh which is is that the thing like they it almost looks like a wedding ceremony right like the father and daughter like like proclaim to each other that's that's how bad the song is is it reminded me of that and then i just went on a deep dive on like uh wikipedia on on the uh Chastity Ball, or Purity Ball, rather.

It's really like the reality's version of American Pie in that it seems like it's from five generations ago, but it was fairly recent. Oh, really? Yeah. I guess that makes sense. Yeah. What did you find?

Yeah, yeah. Bring us down the Wikipedia hole. What about the Purity Ball? There's just this incredible article where it's like, you know, this gray haired guy sitting next to, they just describe her as like a woman in a floor length gown with her hair and an updo. It like seems like a wedding for all intents and purposes. He pulls out a ring, like shows it to her and she starts crying.

Have you never seen these videos? Yeah. And then they're like, yeah, and that daughter is 17 years old. And that is his daughter. And they dance together and it's all sorts of weird and like awkwardly romantic in a way that I don't know. It's just totally unselfconscious about how creepy it is. Right.

Because they're just claiming protectorship over their daughter's body. Yeah, and it also has the sort of the war of art vibe where it's like they declare war on things that shouldn't be possible to declare war on. There's a quote from this article. Pastor Randy Wilson takes the microphone and asks the men, are you ready to war for your daughter's purity? You ready to kill for your daughter's hymen? Yeah.

You're like, never mind. She probably broke it on a bike seat when she was younger. That's a lie. She says that. It's a lie. You find the men, you kill them. The purity ball guidelines suggest that the daughters be just old enough to have begun menstruating.

Cool. Something that everyone should. Well, yeah, because those kind of lyrics really are kind of like, whoa, man, now that I think about my own daughter. Yeah. Men do some gross stuff. And then other songs are about him fucking other people

besides his wife, and you're like, huh? Yeah, we should just do a universal kibosh on men being allowed to be like, as a father of daughters, I understand where, like, I was on the phone with my dad the other night and we were sparring about Sam B. using the C word. And my dad was like, I don't know. I mean, as your father, I think that it's a pretty vile word. And then in the middle, he's like, oh, my teeth fell out. I was like, your opinion is invalid on this matter. Your teeth literally fell out while you were saying, I don't think people should use the C word.

Click, click, click, click. Click, click, click, click. Click, click, click, click. There is something about that because Rudy Giuliani, his teeth always seem on the verge of falling out. I feel like there's something about conservative politics and and your teeth just wanting to escape from your head. They don't know. My dad loses his teeth everywhere. It's very funny.

Isn't it a hockey thing? It is a hockey thing to lose your teeth. But your dad wasn't a hockey player. My dad doesn't play hockey. He just reports about it, which shouldn't. So yeah, it's on him. But the other day, he's like, you know, I lost my I lost my teeth and they were on top of my Elvis Costello CD collection. Which stacks so high that you can't see it without a ladder.

Most dad shit ever. All right. Back to Kanye. So apparently the album was created like fully, none of these songs existed before that TMZ interview. Oh, it sounds like it. Yeah. Well, yeah. And that's according to people who have reported on the process. It was all like put together very quickly, which the thing that used to separate his work from a lot of other people's work is what a perfectionist he is and this yeah sounds rushed and not that well thought through and even the push it to the album that he produced like sounded it was seven tracks that you got the sense it was like they took the seven best tracks from like a collection of 15 and we're just like we're just making it all killer no filler whereas this just seems like the first seven tracks of a bad Kanye album yeah something very first drafty you know we knew something was wrong with him yes based on his public appearances over the last couple months

and the album just kind of further shows that he's not in the best place especially to be creating and he's still saying the dumbest shit out loud on record and i've never come at the guy's music but this is like one of the first times i really feel sort of a little bummed for him as a creator i'm like damn you really just this sounds so all over the place the first song i actually really like a lot, but it goes all over the place from silently being like, I thought about killing you to... Like a dude on the bus or something. I thought about killing you. Premeditated murder.

Call CPS because also, who the fuck is he talking about when he's like, I thought about killing you. Best believe that. I think that's been speculated. I assumed it was Kim, but. I've heard stuff like that said on the bus to the Glendale Galleria before. You never want to start off with something about, yeah, I thought about premeditated murder into like impromptu humming.

But that song, like it feels like two songs that could have been good and then just were kind of all over the place. Because then suddenly he's like, yeah, like I've been in some bad places using the floor as ashtray. And he's like, it's a different set of rules that we obey. You're like, whoa, this is the same song? Okay. Right. Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, it's one of those things I just, I'll maybe can only listen to like three of the songs on there.

But yeah, I don't know. I feel like he had a chance to maybe do something slightly redeemable off the back of all that dumb shit that he said. And then he really does nothing to address that. Even when he talks about the slavery was a choice thing. It's just sort of like, yo, I told Kim she could have left, but she didn't. So she's loyal. Yeah. I think it's like the worst thing he could have done.

It just kind of is just like a weird, like lateral. It's a nothing. Yeah. I just want to shout out all my bipolar heads again, because I don't know. Like he makes a big deal about his mental illness on this album. That's mostly what it's about. And you can sort of hear that thought process. And I don't know, it's weird to hear someone in the thick of it releasing their first draft, basically.

Right. I'm interested in how that affects the mental health conversation, if at all. But more than anything, it's like the way you see people responding to this album who were like two weeks ago, they were like, he's dead to me. I hate he's no, no, he's canceled. He's done. Now they're like, track two is actually pretty good. I'm guilty of that to an extent. That's my jackpot program. I mean, my beefs with him have always been about his politics or what he does with his celebrity, basically.

Yeah. Because I always said that even the thick of his dumb fuckery, that's why I was so upset, because he has made an album that I feel is one of the better hip-hop albums that's ever been made. Yeezus? No, fuck Yeezus. That is a fucking trash pile. I's ever been made. And so, no, fuck you. That is a fucking trash pile.

I like you. Miles hates you. And again, but it's one of those things, too, where it shows how invested people can be when they're like, well, but I also got to find out. But at the end of the day, this just further underlines how little he knows about his own place or the world or whatever, because it comes off so odd and like just tone deaf in spots that i'm just was really like that's why to me it was just kind of like i don't know a lot of people on tour like yo this is the greatest album or other people like this

is great this is the worst fucking album fuck you and people were like getting upset over it to me i'm just sort of like he made this album in a week and he literally got flamed on tmz and his response is this and it sounds like just sort of like this impulsive thing that he did. So I don't know. Is he going to want to count this as one of his albums? Yeah. And I mean, none of the seven songs apparently existed back when he gave himself this self-imposed deadline to release the album last week. album last week and then apparently he told charlamagne in an interview that he completely reworked the songs after that tmz slavery was a choice thing wow so not only it was like last

minute album like last minute do your homework right just uh thrown together yeah all right well sounds like that there's this one point he makes where he refers to himself in the third person and then from that transitions into being able to see outside of himself and therefore being bipolar as a superpower, which I do think that he— I didn't take it like that. You didn't take that? I didn't know if it was that he was seeing outside of himself. It was just sort of like I think he called out his own narcissism in a way.

Right. He was clearly like maybe someone in therapy was like, you see how you tend to do third person? You're narcissistic. Right. Because he's like, yeah, yeah. Self-mythologizing. He's like, see, that's that third person.

He's like, wait, I heard, that's my bipolar shit. I'm a fucking superhero. That's me trying to track his thought process, which probably doesn't make sense. I mean, what do you think of him looking at his bipolar disorder as a superpower? Well, I don't speak on behalf of... No, I mean, just personally, how does that strike you? I mean...

It just seems a little bit, like, off. And that makes sense if you're in the middle of a bipolar manic episode that you would see things off. That's, like, what they're characterized by. But I don't know.

I just... It bums me out a little bit that this is, like, like well he's acting this way because he's bipolar he's acting it just I think kind of oversimplifies a more complicated illness and and basically just characterizes anyone who does have bipolar disease as like someone who's completely unhinged and can and just using the bipolar to justify stuff he says in the media of like you know being bipolar has never made me think that slavery was a choice like there's other stuff at play and there's like more context and the fact that it's

being boiled down to like well he's going through a bipolar manic episode. That seems like it's true, but there's also like other stuff going on. Yes. Clearly. And just from a public persona perspective, it seems like the parts of him that have always like kind of captured people who don't care about his arts attention, like his sort of rambling, you know, jumping on stage at award shows and just basically, you know, toxic narcissism. Like that person is eating like the creator on this album. You can almost hear that happening.

Yeah, and I think the lack of like, at least I haven't looked at all the credits, but it seems like not many people were helping him with the songwriting part. And that's always like a mark of most of his albums. Yeah, I mean, anything that's that rushed is going to be hard to not like this second rate podcast right that's right all right we still bring the heat we're going to take a quick break we'll be right back

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Brisbane, as I've been told you're supposed to pronounce it, has caught a serial criminal, the Poojogger. And he has been outed as corporate high flyer, Andrew Douglas Macintosh. It's like one of those spy movies where the bad guy turns out to be the mayor. This guy was like a big time dude in Brisbane. I guess, yeah, he works for the retirement home company, Aveo, or they do some kind of retirement village stuff.

But what's great is that like people in this area, this Green Slopes apartment complex, they were just getting sick and tired of this. Clearly somebody's just taking a shit on the path. They were sick of his shit. Yeah, a couple of residents teamed up, you know, Harriet the Spy style, and like deployed all kinds of little technology.

Like at first they were using like a night vision camera with motion sensors. It's like meant for like nature photography of like elusive nocturnal creatures to first kind of get some, you know, to build a timeline and get some blurry images to feel like, OK, we're starting to see when this is happening in the direction the person is moving. And then from there, just did some process of elimination. when this is happening and the direction the person is moving. And then from there, just did some process of elimination. And then one of the dudes just was there with his camera waiting for the moment because he knew the spot and got his picture. And this photo of this man being caught in the act, it's like what dreams are made of in terms of catching people poo-handed.

Yes. It's really something. Also, if you zoom out, like the picture in the New York Post is a wide version. And the It's really something. Also, if you zoom out, the picture in the New York Post is a wide version, and the poo is watery. It's like a pile. It's not even like... It's a puddle. Yeah, it's not even like emoji poop. It's like

soft, wet poo. Disgusting. This facial expression, too, is kind of like, what of it? I would recommend everybody look at the zoomed in version and just trust that Teresa has done the work for you in describing that because the zoomed out version is ugly. What was the quote that you said when the guy cut the picture? Yeah, in the article it says, so the photographer goes, there's a red light which goes on before the camera's flash goes off. And he saw that and looked at me as the photograph was taken.

Then he just said, hello. Hello. That's why he's staring at somebody there yeah me and i'm taking a picture like you literally the cliche caught with your pants down needs to be retired because this dude is just the most caught anyone's ever been he's just looking over to the side what's with the poo jogging though you know this is a thing that is happening in the very early days of the daily zeitgeist we reported a story from a colorado neighborhood where a specific family was having somebody shit in their yard like every day yeah and they finally you know got the person on camera and it was a woman. I don't think they ever caught her though.

It was just a woman dressed in jogging gear. Well, the jogging loosens the bowels. It's true. Because it's like when you look, because I just Googled poop while jogging and the first article is like, why does running make you poop? Yeah. No, because I mean, it's a lot of bouncing up and down. The contents of your stomach are going to get kind of pushed down,

especially when you're new to it. It's like making a milkshake. They're just giant. Or carrying a milkshake in a paper bag. And, yeah, especially when you're first training for a marathon, they even have a name for it. It's called the trots. Yeah, because there's countless articles

from like running magazines or publications that are just like, yo, avoid the mid-run poops or whatever. Yeah. Do you think this is... Maybe he's training. Training for a marathon. That's still not okay.

Or a poop. I don't care. I don't give a shit. You do not do it on a sidewalk. But I guess there's two versions, right? Someone is just a sloppy, disgusting person with no regard for anyone else and is just pooping because they have to run. And they're just so –

Because they have the runs. They don't know what to do. But they always keep the toilet paper on them, clearly, as this man did. Or it's like a really evil person who is getting off on taking a shit out there in the streets. Or sick. evil person who is getting off on taking a shit like out there in the streets or sick you know they have like a weird kink that like made them like to poop where people can see it and like leave it there for whatever reason could there be a world where he is uh so embarrassed about

pooping indoors that he has to go outdoors oh wow i actually like that that he's like been shamed about about defecating since he was a child or something. Something went off in his brain and he feels bad about it. He can only poop. Because we were talking, I think, in the office that we all know different people with really strange pooping rituals. I know somebody who has never pooped and not taken a shower immediately after. So obviously he always has to poop. And I know someone who has to keep the shower on while they poop.

I know someone who puts a towel over their lap as they poop. I know someone who puts a towel over their lap as they poop. I know someone who gets butt naked. Yeah, my brother used to take out all his clothes before he pooped. Not even jewelry. Oh, wow. Like he would take his earrings out and like anything. That's a lot. Yeah.

That's a lot of work. Or he would take out his one dangle earring. He used to wear a cross dangle earring. Hang it on the hook behind the door. I remember high school though, because he used to do that, we stole his clothes from underneath because he would put it over the stall. How did you find that out? Because we just knew because we were like,

yo, why is your fucking school uniform draped over the fucking thing? He's like, yo, I've got to be naked with my poop. Oh, you did it in public, too? Yeah, and, you know, we're evil kids. Yeah. Sorry, bruh. I won't name your name. And then there's also it was

chad yeah well obviously it was chad like do you think there's a group of these people who like it's like a community like the way furries are where they talk to each other or do you think it's like a lone wolf kind of no i think it's on your own i think there's definitely an r public pooping oh like a subreddit? Subreddit. Yeah. Maybe R trots. R trots, yeah. And they sort of share where the best poop places are. Oh, yeah.

Or like, how do you get clean right after real quick? I don't have a lot of time. I don't know. Yeah. And now for my recurring segment, what would Andy Rooney say about this? He'd be like, it's this damn on-demand culture. Everybody thinks that they can just do it wherever they want. All right, that's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

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