The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 270 (Best of 4/10/23-4/14/23)

Episode Date: April 16, 2023

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh extravaganza. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. We are thrilled to be joined by a very funny comedian and writer who co-hosts the food podcast Yelling About Pate and host of the live pop-up comedy food wine show amuse bouche please welcome back to the show it's carl hey oh my god happy to be here and i'd be remiss if i didn't say that i have had salty licorice and it's delicious isn't it good your sweetest friend is right wait

what is salty licorice your bouche is amused when you have that shit. It's like the savory version of licorice, pretty much. So it tastes like meat? Yeah. Yeah. It tastes like a nice steak. I'm like, juicy. Cheddar and onion? The one that I had was salty one side, sweet on the other.

Yeah, they'll have a licorice steak in Sweden. You cut it with a fork and knife. Real juicy in the interior. That's the only steak they have over there. I recently had a sous vide salty licorice patty. It was fantastic. I bet it was great. Yeah.

Carl, tell me about Amuse Bouche. Because before you're talking, you're like, I'm combining comedy, food, and wine. And I'm like, dinner theater? I mean, kind of. Actually, yeah. A lot like that. It's a pop-up food and wine party that we do at a melody wine bar in virgil villas natural wine bar and uh basically we have two different guest chefs every show we have

different wines on special sometimes we have a winemaker there and then uh your ticket gets you the food you buy wine from the bar everybody gets drunk and then we have like a you know a tight comedy show tightest show in town it's an we have like a, you know, a tight comedy show. Tightest show in town. It's an hour long. Three comedians. You know, you've seen these L.A. comedy shows. They're booking nine, ten people.

Nobody needs that much comedy in their life. Too much comedy. Yeah. Yeah. No one needs. I say no one needs over 90 minutes of any content. Really. Movies, comedy.

But definitely not stand-up comedy. So, yeah yeah we do a tight one hour show it's a palette course of exactly then we have a dj we dance we do the perrone which if you don't know is a spanish glass drinking instrument where you pour wine into your mouth from a great height oh i like that thing with like oh yeah spout yeah that features prominently into the entire show. So many people like just bib up or whatever before they go. They wear their Sunday's best.

You got a raw dogged baby. That's what it's all about. Red wine splattering. No, we don't use red. If you're not actively a Spaniard, I do not encourage peroning red wine. You have to. That's high level. Look, you start with white as someone who likes to, that's high level shit. You start with white.

As someone who likes to, you know, sometimes have a Baja Blast, and I am willing to appropriate Spanish culture, I feel like I'm ready for the, just pour the Rioja down my gullet. Yeah, I would say perone a Baja Blast and see how that goes. And then, you know, then move from there.

Yeah, yeah, start that. I've shotgunned them before, so. That's a terrible i think i shot gun them with miles at my house we didn't we uh i think i watched you do it and then i looked at her majesty and she's like she's like she gave you a subtle not shake of the head she's like she dialed a divorce lawyer she's about to hit send right i recently had a flaming hot mountain dew actually um and you know what it wasn't disgusting like i thought it was gonna be was not hot at all which was my right i was like this should be a little

bit spicy i know it has the whisper the the hint of like the spiciness of ginger beer i wanted it to scald my esophagus with chemical burns. Right, right. Yeah. Well, look, they can't really do it. Did you hear about how people who are eating Chipotle now, they're like, the hot sauce is way too hot now. It got way too hot. And people are fucking freaking out about it. We're also soft. And I'm like, come on.

But it turns out that Chipotle was like, I mean, we get it from the same places all the time. But then they suspect it was a batch of these chilies that they got from India that may be slightly hotter. And I forget, Super Producer Victor sent me the article because I love hearing about people who are like, too spicy, too spicy. And they're like, it was just a couple Scoville's above normal. Right. So, whatever. Peppers can be wildly, you know, there's a spectrum.

Sometimes you get a jalapeno, you're like, this is mild. Sometimes you get a jalapeno that fucks your day up oh yeah or even like a shishito pepper you could have this is wonderful sneak up on you yeah they will fucking they will jump you in an alley you didn't expect it you thought it was going to be a nice little appetizer like the bonito flakes on it guess what motherfucker this is a spicy one jenny what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are okay well recently when i had to search for a project i was doing i had to search the star wars characters because i don't know any of them

and i'm so happy for you there's so many yeah that's good for you i'm so happy for you. There's so many. That's good for you. I'm so happy for you. I know them all. I don't know. There's Han Solo, Adam Driver. Are they the same? I like naming the characters. There's Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Adam Driver, Princess Leia. There's Billy Williams.

There's Perry Fisher. There's James Earl Jones. There's a stuffed bear, I think, at one point. A stuffed bear, yeah. I did. I'm doing this project, and I had to research them because I'd never seen the new Star Wars. I maybe saw

the one old one, but never saw the new ones, except one time I saw the first 10 minutes because I was on a lot of mushrooms, and we went to go see the first one with Adam Driver and I couldn't stop laughing in the theater because I was like he was in girls and then I had to leave and then I just walked into cats it was a much better time on mushrooms and were

people laughing in that theater or there was like two people in there and i walked in just as they were doing the jenny song and it's like rebel wilson and like a you know the jenny the fat cat and she there's roaches everywhere and i was like whoa this is a way different time this is kind of more my speed right now a little more my speed yeah i should have did that i should have saw cats high as shit. Oh, yeah. Mushrooms make, like, to Jenny's point, anything can be a comedy on mushrooms. Oh, yeah. Instantly. An Adam Driver movie was great. Yeah.

Schindler's List, funny as fuck on mushrooms. Somehow, it tripped me out. In that one part, you saw the girl's coat was red. I didn't know what the fuck that was about. I thought I was tripping again. But, yeah, any film can be a comedy about. I thought I was tripping again. But yeah, any film can be a comedy somehow or you'll just laugh from it. But I also like that you were just,

were you just sort of like, okay, I am laughing way too much that I'm just disrupting the film? Oh yeah, I excused myself. I could tell people were upset. Like, was it just any random thing? You're like... Yeah, it would show.

First of all, I was on Mushrooms, so I had no idea what was happening in the story and then adam driver's pulsating face would show up morphing and i'd just be like that's the guy from girls oh my god it makes me so happy what it makes me so happy to know how much i know you pissed off star wars fans especially the first one back they was mad as fuck and i love it excuse me and then to the trailer before that had that one dude it's like this one guy who i forget who he is but he's an actor it was like a spy like me or something and he's like hanging out this or something and he's like hanging

out this little girl and he's like a big tough spy but i was really peaking on the mushrooms and i was like i thought he was a robot and i was like they're letting robots make movies now this is so messed up i think it's oscar isaac maybe i may looks real. Even in real life, this dude looks weird. Okay. So I don't think I'm that far off. Right. Oh, I know who you're talking about. Dominic.

He was like pasty white. No, no. He's like, he's just super buff. There's a lot of weird looking people in Star Wars. Okay. No, this was the part of the trailer before Star Wars came up. I don't remember. There was like some planet.

I couldn't understand what they were saying. I just know. It's all good. Yeah. You know, it was just hilarious as shit. You know, Snape showed up on the screen. You're like, oh my God, is this a crossover episode? I was like, oh my God, Snape.

Alan Rickson, I love you. He's back. Thank you. What is, what's something you think is overrated? Non-chain restaurants, I think. I think it's getting out of hand. PDX?

You hear that, PDX? Yeah, because they don't have that here. We don't care for your, Sparrow spelled a different way. What's Rabbo's? But I,

you know, I just, especially in the context of and especially in the context of like you know dating and like trying to get and this is gonna sound so awful but i i i want i'll start here i went on a road trip with my dad a couple months ago and he like doesn't eat a lot of red meat you know he's at that age where he's like i can't eat this i can't eat that i can't eat this i'm like okay great but it's just it was his birthday right and i'm like orchestrated this whole thing and he's like i want a steak really bad okay like i just want a good steak i'm like

fuck yeah let's get that shit yeah run yeah so i'm i'm googling we're in chicago at the time i'm googling i'm like where's the best steak let me get me get it. We show up to this spot. And when I tell you they burned the steak and the vegetables were like chopped so pretentiously and like, you know what I mean? Like filet mignon, you know? And it's a non-chain. So it's taps like, you know what I mean? Right, right. So I'm like, damn, I'm upset.

I'm like, you want me to pay for this? I just like trusted these Yelp reviews that you probably paid someone to do. You know who never would have done this to me? You know who never would have let me down? The Red Lobster. Outback. Yeah, Red Lobster.

You know? Yeah. Everything's on a fucking timer. Like it's so, like they've completely taken out the humanity from cooking like in those places that it's foolproof where it's like, yep, you store it at this temp. So you can only, you know, put it at this side, this side, and then you get consistency.

But I know. Yeah. I know that feeling. There are all these circumstances where it's like, I actually need things to go to plan like very specifically that I'm like, I look, I just met this person. I really can't fumble with the restaurant being awful. But I also can't take you to an Applebee's. And that's, it's getting, it's just so, I'm on.

And that needs to change. I'm on Google reviews all the time. And I'm so sick of them. Wow. Especially the people who don't use pictures. I'm like, put a picture up. Yeah, you got to see what you're dealing with. I think also too, you know, great restaurant i was in portland last time i was there i don't

know if you've been there it's like this thai restaurant where they also have like barbecue it's like a few they have like a white brisket curry that was like it's unbelievable okay i'll just say that i just i got that tip from some portlanders when I was out there. Can I ask you, how many locations do they have? They got one. No, I'm good. Oh, wow. We're out. We're out.

They got 72. They got 72 in the Northwest. If it was so good, there'd be more. If it was so good, they should have 700 locations. That's why McDonald's. Is it as good as McDonald's? Interesting. Yeah, Becca's on board. uh becca has spent time here and like me and i will wait on the

list i actually am like i haven't gotten to leave the couple blocks radius of where i'm staying and i'm oh it is interesting like portland is actually really dope um and you i've never lived in a place where you can look out the window and see mountains, which is crazy. I'm from Florida. I shouldn't have said that on record. We'll get through it. We're all getting through it. I know we said you could

swear on this, but that was a little bit too far. Content warning. Content warning. I'm from Florida. What is something you think is underrated, Payne? I actually think that nice socks are very underrated. When I say nice socks, you know, like,

I feel like, you know, guys traditionally, at least, you know, my friends growing up, used to get just whatever the biggest pack of socks you could get for the buck. For sure. Buy my socks by weight. As an adult, I've invested in some nicer quality socks. And man, I'll tell you, it's a different way to live your life.

You don't know what you're missing. It feels like you're suiting up for business like a nice thick pair of just it just feels good so well so your journey is from i'm the same way i would be like if like why would i buy up like i would i remember seeing a pair of socks like nice socks and you get one pair right and i'm like no no no i need at least by any means no but also but that's but that's my thinking too and i've definitely come to realize as i blow holes in like sock after sock because like i like grip my toes so much when i walk real that i'm like that the like the few times that i've like spent a little bit more money on

a sock or like one that was more like activity appropriate. I'm like, Oh shit. Okay. But what's a, wait, what are we talking? Like you're going Merino wool.

You're going silk infused. I've been buying, I mean, I have to plug in. Add some, add some, add some nyc.com. Okay.

How much they are. They're not cheap, but they're, I mean, you just got to try them on to feel it out 25 bucks a pair or something stupid i mean i've paid that much for basketball socks i think i'm still like middle class with the socks there's definitely like the the haines ones i grew up with i've taken a step up to like nike ones that come in packs of four maybe you know but not not individually i'm not buying socks one at a time by buying these trash to the imagination unless they're dress socks but both socks and underwear it's like i'll buy oh man a nice pair

of socks and a nice pair of underwear and then i'll try to just like just wear the like all the other ones just get relegated to the bottom of the drawer and i never wear anything else until those yeah those nice ones start falling apart do you do this thing like my underwear drawer is basically the exalted few that are at the top of the pile because they get the most rotation if i go a few levels beneath that yeah i'm looking at artifacts from decades ago or things that that's how mine used to be but like i just i i just got fed up at one point i said you know what i'm literally investing in nice underwear and nice socks yeah i just got rid of those scary ones from i don't know when right that don't match it's like

this is probably my friend's underwear i don't even know how i got this right yeah like my underwear right now looks like a ghost's prom dress like it's so like spooky and tattered and like wispy and like used to be a white piece of fabric at one point i definitely i i mean i definitely i'm when i'm reaching that same point because i kept looking at my drawer and i'm like man i use maybe five percent of this shit in this drawer i'm like i gotta go scorched earth on some of these shitty pieces when you guys travel do you overpack your underwear yeah i usually do i underpack for some like just assuming that you might shit your pants every single day or something. I always add one for the just in case. I usually

5X. If I'm going for five days, I'm bringing at least 10 pairs of underwear. I rarely shit my pants more than a couple times on a trip. But you never know. You never know. yeah you never know yeah

gotta be ready for anything nice underwear nice socks i think that's very good it's just so wild too because it's such a like the adult thing to do but for whatever reason it's like probably the where i'm the most stunted as someone who's nearing 40 years old is like gotta have those underwear that my mom bought me in college like i don't i literally have fucking underwear from what is that fucking almost 20 like 19 years ago companies that have gone extinct yeah that like i'm like head the company that makes like tennis rackets you hate that gift for christmas now you're like thank you because no one will ever want to buy that shit yeah no exactly and now i'm like oh no like these old american apparel underwear from 2004

yeah useless useless i got some american apparel tube socks floating around in my sock drawer somewhere like and where were you at your in your life that's what's like it's interesting to think like what were you like when you're living in new york or something yeah dressing as rocky three for halloween i think that's where i got them beach, me and my homie dressed up as Rocky and Apollo for the beach scene. Shit, he just still got them there. Yeah, there's nothing like the carbon dating of your underwear door. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we will talk aliens.

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I mean, lovers of the end of democracy, for sure, right now. 20 years? 20 years, a lot of gifts. What was that movie about the mountains? Brokeback Mountain? Very Brokeback Mountain. Oh, where Ginny Thomas is.

She's like, you're not going up there to fish. Yeah. What was that movie about? Yeah. You're not going there to fish. It was about the mountains, y'all. That's so funny because there is a picture of them fishing. Harlan Crow, you mean Harlan Nasty.

That was a wonderful line delivered by Michelle Williams in that film. Anyway, so just like put these things into perspective, right? The cost of a trip to go on a jet and then 162 foot super yacht for like nine days, people would be like on the conservative side could have gotten to around half a million dollars for that. But fortunately, I guess like, you know, he didn't have to fully disclose some things because the way you have to disclose things are like if you go to someone's private home, you don't have to disclose it. But the second transportation is involved, you have to fucking disclose shit. And apparently it wasn't even just to do stuff with Harlan Crow. Like it's it sounds like based on like certain flight logs, Clarence Thomas like used his jet for like a three hour trip to go to New Haven, Connecticut from like DC a few years ago. And again, it's a problem because if you aren't disclosing all these gifts, especially if they're worth more than $415, it's hard to tell how the fuck you're being influenced. Although these people swear up and down has nothing to do with

anything. I've never had any case in front of him. I'm just the connective tissue to other plutocrats and the Supreme Court justice as well as, you know, people like Leonard Leo of the Federalist Society. So there's only one time. I wish people would stop lying. I wish people would stop lying. I know. I mean, just be real, because look, I'm going to be real.

If you let me ride on your 162 foot yacht, next decision I make, that's your decision bruh it's true i mean it's like here's the thing is is you hear it and you're like wow that's crazy and then you also are like nothing will happen right exactly nothing will happen that's the thing that's the that's the wonderful sort of ebb and flow of being an american in this country and being half tuned into what's happening you're like how the fuck can this happen and then you immediately then modulate to well what the fuck i mean what yeah what's gonna what's gonna

oh is he really gonna see justice yeah well you know who knows justice yeah i know his name is literally justice thomas but like so again we we also found out like back in he only disclosed one trip back in 1997 and you know apparently this isn't just this is just the tip of the iceberg he like crow also just made it rain on clarence thomas with all kinds of fun gifts like giving him a 19 000 bible that he wanted an auction that belonged to frederick douglas wow you know what i mean that's actually kind of a sweet gift in a weird way this kind of your theory starts to hold up because harlan crowe's quote about it was like i was at this auction and i saw the item come up and i knew how much clarence was a fan of frederick douglas so i figured he had to have it

and i'm like what a thought this is so fucking thoughtful yeah telling you they're lovers man they're lovers he also bought a fifth got him a fifteen thousand dollar bust of abe lincoln yeah lovers okay i only let me tell you something if i gave you half a million dollars it could just be like yeah man i just believe in your cause but if i give you a 19 000 bible and a bust of abraham lincoln my dick has been inside of you 100 100 there's no there's no middle yeah when the gifts are that thoughtful there's like now you guys you guys have something good going on and here's the other thing like he was flown out to like this, like other retreat he has where he would like apparently this guy Harlan Crowe would host like Clarence Thomas along with other like government officials and like business magnates and be like, hey, man, they're just kicking it together. You know, I have no clue what they're talking about. I mean, yes, Leonard Leo, who runs the fucking Federalist Society, who's the architect of all of our current judicial fuckery that's going on in this country they just kick it all the time together on their little bro

hangs and it's you know all to the good what it turns out though like in the la times about 20 years ago they they like they busted clarence thomas for not reporting shit and ever since like that happened clarence thomas has just stopped reporting or disclosing things altogether like ever since he got burned he's like yeah well i'm not gonna do that shit anymore and not only that crow regularly has thomas stay at his invite only resort where again it's like it's like an all men's retreat here's the thing this place has a clay tennis court a batting cage a replica of hagrid's hut from harry potter bronze statues of gnomes and and a 1950s style soda fountain where they make

like bespoke milkshake milkshakes this just sounds great man wait please go back to the hagrid's house okay i don't i'm not, I'm not a Harry Potter-like person, so I don't know what Hagrid's hut... I know who Hagrid is, but I don't know what the significance of... Is that like a pizza shop for Harry Potter fans? I think they're all... It's whimsical.

Maybe they go there, that's where they talk about all their anti-trans stuff. Yeah, exactly. They're like, in this tribute to J.K. Rowling, the Hagrid's hut where we enter and come up with new ways to vilify and dehumanize trans people through legislation i mean this this sounds this sounds so i feel like if we want them to turn around we have to say

like oh no you guys are lovers and just be like no it's fine you know what actually these just sound like really great gifts let's celebrate your guys's love and then he'll be like, no, it's fine. You know what? Actually, these just sound like really great gifts. Let's celebrate your guys' love. And then he'll be like, I'm not. No, I'm trying to influence him for judicial decisions. Oh, good. We used homophobia to bring the truth out. Fantastic. Also, all this shit like is so influenceable.

Like I'm listening to everything you've been listing off. And I'm like, I would give you whatever you want. If you let me come to this shit, like it's like whatever you want. You're just a milkshake. Sways you. Hey, Oreo milkshake is pretty good. We're simple.

We're basic motherfuckers. You know what I mean? And he gave me a Hagrid. I thought it was a real milkshake. No, you have to fuck Hagrid. You have to fuck Hagrid just I thought it was a real milkshake. No, you have to fuck Hagrid now. You have to fuck Hagrid just to enjoy this Oreo milkshake. If you get so chummy with people and you know you're all on the same page, that's really all it takes.

Truly. Just to be like, yeah, of course, we get it. Without even saying. You don't really have to. But to be in proximity to these people is really, again, it's like one of those things where like, of course they are. And then you're like, of course, nothing can happen. And not to mention, OK, this guy isn't just giving money to the GOP. He also he's loves making it rain on people like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, two senators who've gotten in the way of a lot of shit recently. So you're like, OK, so this motherfucker knows what he's doing. in the way of a lot of shit recently. So you're like, okay, so this motherfucker knows what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's taking them to Hagrid Town.

They're all going to Hagrid's Hut. You know what I mean? In terms of what Democrats are talking about, Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee have said that they're going to address this, but probably in the same way they're addressing police reform.

You know what I mean? I'll address it by saying I'll address that. I will say out loud this is a problem. But another member of Congress was saying, like, you know, it may not be worth the sequence of events here is that we're on the precipice of losing faith in this bot like people do not give a people have already lost faith in that shit unless you're one of these like monster bastard donors that use it as like your fascism accelerator tool then in which case you fucking love it yeah so it's very it's you know it's it's it gets you feeling a little bit like ah well, maybe they'll address it out loud. Right? Like the donors just like, hey, maybe we should stop women from having abortions. And Clarence was like, I was going to do that.

Anyways, let's just party. Right, right, right. I feel like they're all so bad. It's going beyond influence. And it's really just demons hanging out with each other. Yeah. In Hagrid's Hut. Hagrid's Hut.

That's it. You know what's wild though too there was a there was like a district judge that was confirmed by trump like when he was in office they swore this guy in at harlan crowe's fucking house like the swearing in was just in this guy's like fucking library i do there is this one clip that's just kind of fun to hear because you know like apparently fucking clarence thomas like loves to portray himself as this like folksy guy who's like really not into like he's just really into RVs and shit. But we're hearing about all these like how he's yachting it up and taking PJs. I just want you to hear this, like how he would how helpful a shit this guy is when he's describing himself like in this documentary.

You know, I don't have any problem with going to Europe, but I prefer the United States and I prefer seeing the regular parts of the United States. I prefer going across the rural areas. I prefer the RV parks. I prefer the Walmart parking lots to the beaches and things like that. Oh, really what a walmart parking lot well if that's part of rv that's rv culture because you could you could take your rv to like the walmart that's like a thing i didn't know if you rv prefers putting his pubes on people's coats yeah exactly all over them i mean there's so much pubic hair everywhere i love love it. I mean, I like to go wherever the pubic hair blows. And that's where I end up, you know, just sitting down with Ginny and she comes up with her, you know, fantasies about overturning elections. And I just put pubes on Coke cans and laugh at Anita Hill's, you know, terrible misfortune.

But, yeah, we'll see. I mean, right now he has put out a statement finally, because like Harlan Crowe's like, I don't know. This guy's my friend, man. What do you want me to do? Like, I just I never did anything untoward. And it's just hospitality. Justice Thomas has said, quote, Harlan and Kathy Crowe are among our dearest friends, and we have been friends for over 25 years. As friends do, we have joined them on a number of family trips during more than a quarter century we have known them. Early in my tenure in the court, I sought guidance from my colleagues and others in the judiciary and was advised that this sort of personal hospitality from close personal friends who did not have business before the court was not reportable. And he was just like basically doing the, I didn't know I couldn't do that defense, which will hold up when you're influential in this country. I mean, if you didn't know you could do that, then you shouldn't be on the court. It's as simple as that. And also, it's just like, all right, look, like, we're poor, comparatively, to these ones. I mean, you are, okay.

I have titties on my wall, okay? You have titties on your wall. I have art and titties on my wall. Yeah, I need titties on my wall. I should get some titties on my wall to class this place up. It will. It will. It doubles your income.

Someone's going to see it. They're like, oh, shit. Okay, Mr. 0.5. Double Ds too? 0.5%? Oh, shit. That man got some double Ds on this wall. I'm sorry.

You're not poor. It's me. You're not poor. I'm not classist. No, but no, comparatively, we are poor compared to these motherfuckers. So when we hear all this shit,

when we hear all this shit, like, it's like, God damn all this, all this, but like, it's not that. I mean,

yeah, man, you rich and you inviting people, like you said, to do rich shit with you. Like why, why not the close? Why not disclose that?

Like, unless you was on some shit going on a yacht and going to somebody's house and somebody giving you a gift isn't bad unless you know all this shit is swaying your decision making as a judge of the highest court of the land so you, you just look guilty. That's why men are bad liars and bad cheaters. Because, like, you do the dumbest shit. Like, if you know you own some shit, don't not

disclose it. Disclose everything. You'll be like, what? I disclose all that shit. I don't do that because it's like nothing's gonna happen to them. Nothing's gonna happen to you. Nothing's going to happen to you. Yeah. Like the shit with my man. They're like, so what do you got?

What do you got? It's like the thing. It's like with Trump. Everyone's like he's gone. He's not going to fucking jail. He's not over this. He'll get away. He's got free.

Nothing will happen. These people, they're above the law. Just go. Just get on TV and be like, hey, everybody, I'm super above the law. So, like, don't even worry about it. Yeah. They're just wasting my time. They're just wasting my time right now.

It's all good. Don't worry. Your boy will be free after this. And I would love so badly to fucking eat these words. But again, like I've said in past episodes, history shows me the data set I'm looking at. It won't fucking happen because it didn't. They had their chance with Nixon and they didn't do it. then that emboldened reagan and they didn't do shit and now here here we go but yeah we shall see what goes on in those parts but again i think to your

point jackie's is like it the reason he can't even talk about it is because it reveals just how politicized that body is rather than being like oh my god we are completely objective i'm like in a fucking hyperbaric chamber where people can't even fucking talk to me when i'm unless i'm like on the bench here and you realize no they're chumming it up and from there they hear people's designs on what they think american can be and if they agree then you know they kind of know which which which direction to move in okay let's move on to another fucking big story too in the Tennessee State House. So two Democrats were expelled

from the Tennessee House after they joined in a protest the week before on the House floor, which only happened, the only reason that they engaged in this protest, for just so you realize, is because the Republicans

during the session, they fucking turned off their microphones during the debate because they fucking turned off their microphones during the debate because they're like, they're just spitting too many facts and they're trying to make us feel bad. We got to cut the microphone off.

So they used a bullhorn and apparently they're like, oh no, no, no. They called it a disruption and a lot of people were likening it to like January 6th on Fox. They were like, this is why we can't have people

just invading these political buildings and things like that., they were like, this is why we can't have people just invading these political buildings and things like that. And you're like, whatever, I don't have time to pick it up. It's so insane. It's so insane. But despite that, there were no arrests and the protesters were entirely peaceful. So really not like January 6th at all. These were like students and activists who are like, we are dying. You are doing fuck all what is going on. And now here's where the racist, where's the racist bit comes in. Only two of the three were spelled Justin Jones and Justin Pearson. You know, again, Jones said for, you know, basically said we called for you all to ban assault weapons and you,

you responded with an assault on democracy. So the third member of this protest was a woman named Gloria Johnson, who she was one vote shy of being expelled. I don't know. I don't know which person suddenly had a change of heart to flip the math when the vote seemed the exact same for these two black members of the state house. But when it came to her, it says she she said if my survival was probably due to the color of my skin i think it was done on purpose for sure for sure of course they were just like hey jeff why don't you keep her in just see let's see let's see these libs explode 100 and they like you know again we've there's been like blanket condemnation but when you look at t, actually, that's there's they're kind of ahead of the curve when it comes to going full fash. Like in 2018, this political science professor created like a scorecard as like a way to like analyze and assess like sort of the healthy, like the level of healthy democratic norms that existed in a state, Tennessee was dead fucking

last on that list. This is another state that has been gerrymandered so bad that there isn't a single state Senate seat that is competitive, which essentially guarantees they have this super duper fucking majority to basically be like, man, we can do whatever the fuck

we want, including expelling people who are merely voicing concern over what is happening, not to, we can do whatever the fuck we want, including expelling people who are merely voicing like concern over what is happening. Not to mention we can dilute black political power by expelling these two black politicians. And, you know, this is also just disenfranchising the many black residents that these two people represent. And and it's still possible they could run again. But we're still we don't know yet what these fucking creeps in the state house might do to try and find a way to prevent that as well but they definitely they'll definitely find a way and it's just it's if you listen to the the way stuff was said it was so disgusting and like you need to behave you're lucky to be here all that fucking bullshit that

they throw it was so yeah awful to watch really and i think a lot of people are like this is the heart like what people fear is is like a lot of copycat shit like this happening in these other red states where they have these majorities where they are going to disenfranchise voters not by trying to overturn an election by merely just expelling like rightfully elected people just to kind of keep the momentum going for whatever fucking... I'm not going to lie. I did not really know that this was

a possibility. I just had never heard of it until this. So I was like, is that easy to get niggas out of the fucking... And now like one group has done it the fear is yeah around the country i'll be like oh we can get the negros out this easy

let's do it i know we need is if we have a two-thirds majority and we have super majorities we can do fucking anything and usually you'd hope that there's some kind of balance but again the way these especially after the 2020 census the way these maps have been carved up it's fucking very very fucked up and scary so we'll see but i mean like it's good good to see i mean i don't know if it's good to see but rightfully all the people that were in the state capitol were like this is an absolute fucking disgrace what the fuck are you doing and it's so wild to see how like how cowardly these fucking people are because the second they interact with like people in the public we're like what are you trying to do they're like okay get me to my

fucking suburban so i can fucking peel out of here with my security it's just yeah so uh they're insulating themselves meanwhile like people are dying needlessly so you know this is why this to make one more point this is like one reason why i want people to understand that even though we're seeing like you know republicans lose like in wisconsin or progress more progressives getting elected or things like that the damage that we don't see is shit like this and the power that like these conservative and republican congress members have like the shit they're doing or the shit they can do under our noses is so much more scarier than the shit that we see on the news like oh yeah so if this if this story came to the news like imagine the shit that's going on that like that we don't

fucking know and the power they don't have and like the way they accumulate their power yeah that's why i think yeah that's why it's so that's why it's so important to actually be engaged with what's happening in your state it It's not just about federal politics. It's at the most local, like the shit that you're going to feel first is at the local level. The federal shit, you know, makes its way to you. But if you're not aware of what's happening, I mean, it's like the same thing. Like Ohio is also in terrible shape because it is so, that map is also carved up. They've got wild majorities and, you know, and we're just seeing like a curtailing of rights at a really rapid rate.

So, you know, just something to exhale about in an exasperated way. Yeah, it's just again, it just feels like, well, like they they were so good at like they had the the Republican Party had the patience game where they just played long term got in all these got basically under the skin and are now like like a sore bubbling up and just pus all over the skin of america just like right gross and it's too late for topical creams yeah yeah it's like we gotta we gotta cut it out gotta excise it the thing is yeah you know like to your point about like just like the long game they could they saw the writings on they saw the writing on the wall they're like okay we're dealing with decreased religious like religiosity is on a downward trend people are becoming more

into like politics that appeal to people on the left and further left. What the fuck we do? They're basically just like, okay, then we have to rig the game until they don't know. It's like, okay, they're going to beat us in basketball, but what we're going to do is we're going to sneak into the locker room and put a bunch of lead weights in their shoes and also put little needles in their uniforms

that distract them, and then the ball will be ten times heavier. The rim will also be about five times smaller, and they won't get a fucking shot in and then we'll go on the other side and do what we do so keep an eye out but yeah the fuckery continues all right let's take another quick break and we'll be back to talk about just fucking exorcisms dude and also russell crowe's fucked up accent in this movie right after this. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And South Carolina Senator Tim Scott has announced that he is running for president. Yeah. Not from his own self-loathing, somehow. I thought he would be running from that, but no, he's trying to run towards the white house without knowing anything about him. You just, you already know he has no chance. You know what I mean? That's what's so funny about this to me. Like, you know, here's the future of like the Republican party as I see it. If you don't actually come for Trump's ass and be able to beat him at his own game, you will not do shit.

That's just where energetically that's just where it's at. That's that's the only thing I think that's going to move the needle for somebody is going to be like, no, this guy sucks. He's actually not far right enough. And I'll own you in a debate or whatever. Everyone's like, you know, everyone is very they're deferential to Trump. And that's truly at their own peril. Um, right now, Tim Scott isn't even polling in the double digits in his own fucking state of South Carolina. Trump is like ahead of the field by 20 points. And Ron DeSantis is like, you know, back another flight there. Yeah. He's, he's ahead of DeSantis by 20 points. So a lot of people are like, what is the point of this? And his campaign launch video, I don't know if you saw it.

It's truly one of the saddest things I've seen. For starters, he fundamentally, I think, has no idea what the Civil War represents because he filmed it at fucking Fort Sumter. OK, well, the place where, you know, white supremacist secessionists were like, yeah, let's fucking go after this government facility and just kick off the civil war and he talks about how he will never back down but like many history buffs are like you know like sumter was never taken by the union like once they took it it was only abandoned after the fact so like so how what are the sides are you in this metaphor so exactly are you are who are the Confederates? Because the modern day GOP, like, you know, the conservatives of like that time, they were not about equality. If my recollection holds correctly about the Civil War.

I thought they were just about states rights, Miles, isn't that? Yeah, it was. It was about commerce. It was about commerce. Right. It was only about commerce. I know some people have like tweeted at me. They're like, well, it was also about commerce. I know some people have tweeted at me. They're like, well, it was also about commerce.

I'm like, that's not... Okay. The commerce of what goods, sir? Yeah, right. Which goods in particular? Was it your king by the name of Cotton? But anyway, based on the images, though, that suddenly is like, you know, America's gun divided and we're having to stand tall against people that would rather bring the country down.

They're flashing images of Bernie, AOC, Elizabeth Warren and Biden. And I think he's trying to say that they are the bad guys because that whole thing of like, you know, Lincoln was a Republican. And then just act like there's no other context that that would be meaningful to this depiction. So, you know, good luck to that man. It's kind of like a tragic comedy i think at this point yeah like his whole run because he clearly has no idea what's going on even like with his own base and that like the gop's constant messaging and like of racism and fear-mongering has turned them into a group that is incapable of understanding policy they don't even care

well about policy they only know blood yeah and like his whole thing's like i want to get to brass tax they're like bro they're gonna eat you alive the fuck are you his signature his signature piece of legislation is it's urban restoration it's literally giving tax breaks to developers to do gentrification like that is that man's like on his fucking website. That is his signature piece of legislation. Gentrification. Which I'm pretty sure passed under Trump. But anyway. Right. I mean, remember, too, when he tried to introduce like there was his like policing bill, too, that they're like, hey, the summer of 2020. Hey, you're our black senator. You should introduce this bill of incremental change and we'll treat it as revolutionary.

And, you know, he got his little applause and things like that. treated as revolutionary and you know he got his little applause and things like that but it's just like it feels like this like a scene in a movie where like a dorky kid wants to ask the most popular girl to prom even though she's totally out of his league and a violent racist like where as the audience you're like we all know the outcome yet he's still like walking up with his like like box of russell stover's chocolates and be like um kelly you know what i mean and it's just like right no man no fool get the fuck away she's race what the fuck you trying to do man leave her alone leave that shit alone so yeah there's also he already had to get an opportunity to act like a serious candidate too when he was asked about, you know, abortion, because that's

a that's a big deal right now. And it's probably it's it's proven to be a losing fucking policy platform policy point for the Republicans. And I'll play this clip for you where he's asked about abortion. And I just want to warn you, he has a pretty good answer. No, who the fuck am I kidding? He absolutely fucked the bed with his answer about abortion. Try and even decipher what he even means with this answer when he's asked about where he's at on abortion. Yes, sir. Would you support a federal ban on abortions? I would simply say that the fact of the matter is when you look at the issue of abortion, one of the challenges that we have, we continue to go to the most restrictive conversations without broadening the scope and taking a look at the fact that I'm 100 percent pro-life. without broadening the scope and taking a look at the fact that I'm 100% pro-life. I never walk away from that.

But the truth of the matter is that when you look at the issues on abortion, I start with the various important conversations I had in a banking hearing when I was sitting in my office and listening to Janet Yellen, the Secretary of the Treasury, talk about increasing the labor force participation rate for African-American women who are in poverty by having abortions i think we're just having the wrong conversation oh my fucking god my man my man wow wow wow wow so what does he say oh my god well i mean to me this this this gets right up there with the uh domestic supply of infants logic oh yeah like this is this is the actual conversation we're

having is like should we keep black women in the labor force or should we force them to have children so that uh we have more bodies for the jails like right what are you even talking about and that's where my mind went through a a calm i'm looking i look at abortion through a commerce lens right or how many bodies do we have committee meeting that i was in yeah like a but again you know go ahead man like this is so that's why it's so funny to watch them deal with this like plutonium rod of the abortion issue they don't know like to just drop it and throw it as far away from them as possible and they're like uh i think it's melting my skin because i'm holding it still like fuck off but anyway this is this is what they got this is what they got all right

buddy well speaking of what they got they got they got billionaires on their side. Yeah. And so we mentioned in passing, past couple days, that The Atlantic was entering the fray with The Wall Street Journal with a column from somebody being like, you guys, what are you talking about? Harlan Crowe is totally normal. Nazi paraphernalia collector.

Doesn't mean he's a Nazi. So this is The Atlantic know presumably considered to be like center left journalistic institution you know even though the what is considered to be the center left and the united states is actually far far right but i just want to read how the article opens, because it's an interesting, it's by somebody named Graham Wood or Graham Wood. I've never seen Graham spelled this way. It's very English, very English. Graham. G-R-A-E-M-E, Wood.

So first sentence, I've never met Harlan Crowe, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas's billionaire best friend. But I have peered through the fence surrounding his estate late at night, and once I went inside and snooped around for a couple hours. Last year, Crow and his wife Kathy put on an event to honor two Dallas humanitarians, and I was invited with about 100 others for cocktails and canapes in the Crow's Cavernous Library, a Texas-scale wood-paneled room with a walk-in fireplace and a collection of art and memorabilia worthy of a bond villain so that's an interesting start and you might suspect that him snooping outside of this compound that contains nazi memorabilia was like him as a journalist being like there's something up with this guy there's just like something that doesn't scan he's always

like hanging out with these really influential right-wing dignitaries and leaders and supreme court justices and like so i'm i've hung out i've like kind of kept my eye but it turns out that it's like actually aspirational and he he just like was hanging out there because he wants to like get invited in and like was excited because he goes on to just be like, he's a total sweetheart. Essentially, he's it's that last paragraph of it. That's really fucking wild of like where you kind of have half of the quote from the last paragraph. You kind of have half of the quote from the last paragraph. Yeah. It simply isn't possible to be a Nazi, crypto or otherwise, and simultaneously be an Abe Lincoln and Liz Cheney fanboy, let alone to conceal from your dearest confidence among them black and Jewish people your preference for the master race.

He wrote. Then he says that he and if he were ever to become a billionaire, he would buy one of those gold dinars, the official currency minted by the Islamic State. And that was like his beat. Like as a journalist, he was he was covering that a lot. So I think he was trying to like put this thing of like, OK, this is this is, you know, I'm into like I covered some pretty awful stuff and I'm kind of maybe would like a coin, I guess, just to like for funsies. Right. And then he says some strangers might suppose that because I own such a repugnant item, I must have secretly pledged my soul to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. But my friends would know otherwise because they are not morons. Ah, yes.

So it's just that like kind of dismissive Ivy League Harvard bullshit where it's just like everybody who says this is dumb. If you say someone's Hitler or into Nazis because they have a signed copy of Mein Kampf, you're just dumb and you're not as cultured as I am. Excuse me while I finish stuffing my face with canapes. my face with canapes there's i there's also an older article the in the atlantic because he's written for the atlantic for a while talking about being a high school classmate of richard spencer oh don't worry he's not a fan of richard spencer but that article opens with him bragging about being at a christmas party bash with richard spencer for reason magazine the libertarian publication and he's not like and i infiltrated this it's like yeah i got to go to this cool christmas party with reason magazine a libertarian publication but i don't know i like i'm sure there's a world where harling crow

is just doesn't have an ideological thought in his head that he's aware of, you know, and is just like tackily collecting these things based on the fact that they make the people around him ooh and ah, and, you know, they seem important. And then just like throwing them all up next to each other with no context, like it's a tgi fridays but it's like the first of all the fact that like his audience is like oh my god and like look how nice the cutlery and napkin wear of the nazis were is weird and also it's just revealing that like this harvard grad like this person is supposed to be at the center of like mainstream media, like dives in and like, you know, is giving the benefit of the doubt to this billionaire. Right.

And, you know, would not do would not even think to do the same thing with somebody who's murdered by the police, for instance. You know, so, but when it comes to the most powerful people in the country, they rush in to be like, you got to give him the benefit of the doubt. He's just into this stuff because it's cool. It's the other thing

that he says, hold on, I got to fucking, stupid things paywall and I'm going to give him my fucking money. I know. That's what makes this all so difficult.

There's this one part where he basically says, like, he's saying, like, if I wanted to unburden myself I know that's that's what makes this all so difficult. And you're like, oh, the burden of having of what else you're going to do but buy Nazi shit when you got billions of dollars. Please, y'all come see. Look at the point. And he hangs out with Jewish people and black people. He can't be into the master race. And again, I'm not even saying like it's it's a nailed on thing. I'm like, sure, maybe he has some weird quirk about

it but i'll tell you this if i had billions of dollars i'm not buying nazi shit okay right i'm buying weird fucking i don't even know what i don't even have the i don't have the mind like the imagination to put myself there like what would i buy but it feels like like that's what's interesting is that like this person who writes for the atlantic supposedly center left like widely regarded if you asked anybody like rights of the new york times it'd be like that place is center left or yeah sure like this is a person who peers through the gates of a billionaire's home at night and fantasizes about the weird murder paraphernalia he would buy when he becomes a billionaire right like that's who is at the center of the mainstream media the center of the mainstream media well look again it's all about the status quo at the

end of the day and to like begin a real earnest discussion of like this is this is why everything so fucked up might be a bridge too far and it's better to just be like is it that bad to have a ton of money and yeah you're into weird historical stuff right nothing to see here okay just keep it moving i personally think it's fucking weird to collect nazi stuff i'm going on the record yeah you're not gonna find me collecting that shit if anything i'd be like i'd buy like a weird i'd buy so much weird sports crap probably you know like meaningless shit like a fucking ticket from like a arsenal match of like yesteryear for nothing you know what i mean yeah it's just like i don't know like it that i even the thought of like nazi memorabilia just freaks me out like i don't want to fucking even like there was this guy who was a friend of a

friend who i remember like like something came to light and they're like yeah i found out this guy collects like a bunch of nazi stuff yeah and they're like but they're the and i met them they're like there's such wait that guy he's so nice he's like yeah he's kind of like really into that stuff and i'm like it's never a good sign i have to i don't know anybody who that but i gotta think it's never a good sign but it's just interesting to think about the audience of this stuff that has driven him to continue to keep a bunch of like nazi dinnerware on display a painting by hitler next to a painting by norman rockwell and a painting by george bush who he think george w bush who he thinks is a hero presumably based on his feelings about lynn

cheney he like the audience for that like the the feedback that he's getting is like whoa cool and that makes total sense because like there was a fascist coup like around the time that hitler was rising to power in the united states by the richest people to try and like have a fascist overthrow of the u.s government and like that that hasn't gone away like those are still the richest people in the country they They're still the most powerful people. It's just they've become more and more powerful. And it's becoming like invisible because they're the ones who are like writing for the fucking Atlantic. So it's just like that becomes a thing that we just accept and get like chided and called morons for thinking is fucking weird. You know, it's that is what a rhetorically powerful

way to end that defense of like but my friends would know otherwise and that's why they're my friends because they are not morons so again that's what's so funny is like you for all this like fucking posturing and bloviating you're doing in this piece you just end it you're basically the the whole thrust of the piece is y'all are just morons because y'all don't know him yeah that's not really a good defense if you're you're actually trying to assuage people's concerns about this fucking guy uh i feel like the the well he has black and jewish friends is kind of like doing a lot of work because i think once you get to the point of like i you know my black friends don't care that i have like hitler shit sitting around it's

like yeah because all you any of you want all of any of your friends want is like the accumulation of power like nobody cares and to me it's like that's like a power play right that you have like hitler shit up and it doesn't like it doesn't matter and i'm not trying to hide it and it's not like oh i have this little closet over here behind a bookshelf that i put all my hitler stuff in because i don't want anybody to see it when i'm throwing my party like he has it out because he's like making a statement about the fact that like social norms don't apply to him and that's why we're being called idiots for going like what what is going on like why would you have this shit in like out and public and something that you're proud of and it's like they really billionaires you know they are the law like legally and socially and

all of the other ways like whatever they do is fine because no one can touch them i think that yeah it's just like when you're talking about people who are trying to accumulate power like they have more in common with each other than like they do with any of us or anybody else who's like part of who might otherwise be like part of your like socioeconomic or racial or ethnic group right it's like i don't see race i just see sadistic plutocrats right that's it that's all we are we've distilled it all down to our one common thing and that's that yeah and they they have what they drive and work in one of the biggest industries in the united states that is invisible to everybody except them and the people who work for them which is like the protection of private

wealth yeah like just finding different ways to invest their billions and billions and billions of dollars. Jack, no, unburdening themselves. Unburdened, I'm sorry. Billions of inherited wealth. I didn't even want this shit, Jack. What am I supposed to do with it? I love it. That's how this writer uses his imagination is sitting around thinking about what he would do to unburden himself.

Did he CC Harlan Crowe on this when it got published? And he's like, you see that? Hey, when's the next party? Got your back. Yeah, exactly. I got you, fam. I got you.

Could you lift the restraining order now that I've written this? I promise I'll stop looking through the gates. I want those canapes. Oh, I'm sorry. Canapes. Canapes. I'm sorry.

I'm working on that. I want to be like you, a cultured person. Oh, my gosh. This also, for me, really goes back to all the data that shows like the more money you have, the less empathy you have. Yeah. Like they're so disconnected from reality and like other people being people. And I mean, I assume I don't think that like Clarence Thomas is rich rich like this Harlan Crowe asshole but the power thing still fucks with your head and like fucks with your ability to empathize yeah and I think that like both of them are just like very clear examples of uh yeah what the data

is showing us right and he's not a billionaire his real name is clarence right clancy clancy can't be a billionaire or come on now but yeah it is it's like you know there's a point where you just sort of cross the rubicon of reality and you're like sorry folks i'm over here now and actually all you people are actually haters and i'm gonna legislate you the fuck off the planet that's kind of where we're at now and guess what all my homies are rich and we can manipulate many things with this money but yeah it's easier to just be like just that whole like what was it what's the title of it it's like he's um collecting a nazi does not make him a nazi or whatever the fuck clarence th Thomas's billionaire friend is no Nazi.

You're carrying water for a dude who doesn't know your name also, by the way. Like, pretty weird. You're simping for a billionaire who didn't even want you at his party. He just made you look through the gate. Hey, Harlan! It's me!

Oh, God. It's that insufferable Graham again. What is he doing? I don't know, but he has silver paint all over his mouth and he keeps reading out of a paper bag. By the way, his big article on Richard Spence, Richard Spencer is a troll and an icon for white supremacists. He was also my high school classmate is the subhead. The title of the New York Times is a person. The title is his comp. That uh the title the new york times is a person the title is

his comp that's the title of the atlantic article no oh my god and it has like a it has a black and white photograph of richard spencer that's like kind of i don't know it's very humanizing it's interesting interesting good for. Good for them. Good for them. Yeah. I mean, I guess for the people that are aspiring millionaires and billionaires that read The Atlantic, I'm sure this is a nice salve for them. Yeah. I can buy all the Nazi shit I want.

Yeah. I'm just trying to unburden myself. The Atlantic is going to tell me that the Atlantic is going to tell everybody else that they're fucking morons if they judge me for it. Exactly. Oh, really? Oh, I'm a Nazi? I'll have you read a little piece by Graham Wood in the Atlantic that would say otherwise. And someone would be like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Huh? Just read it. My friends know I'm not a Nazi. I'm just into Nazi stuff, like in a really measurable way. Like in a really normal way. Yeah. just into nazi stuff like in a really measurable really normal way yeah but it is really like unless there's forcible legislation to rein billionaires in like there has been in the past and stopped being during our lifetime like for basically the past like 30 years right they like

because to your point tory like that that study of billionaires of the that's like the richer you are, the less empathy you have. That's not necessarily because like money makes you less empathetic. It's that people without empathy are better at accumulating money. Yeah, the amount of wealth required and like the amount of exploitation required to do that like yeah those specific people right it's probably like but two things feeding that like i'm sure the money doesn't help once you're already somebody who has been predatory enough to accumulate that much wealth but what we are just feeding them into the most influential positions in our civilization. And like that, it's just going to keep getting worse until something is done about it to

bring them in and culture at a cultural level, people start just automatically discounting everything that comes out of their mouths and everything that comes out of the mouths of people who are simping for them. Just call them sadistic plutocrats. Let's not call them billionaires. We don't have to assign how much wealth. You're just a sadistic plutocrat.

And I'm sure another thing that prevents them from being like, am I the baddie? Is our culture already deifies these people in the form of the job creator. You know what I mean? And so for them, they're like, actually, I'm God. So I'm actually creating jobs. i'm not exploiting labor i'm creating jobs and i and i put my head i rest my head at night on my third rank sheets and i go to sleep really wonderfully because i know i've created jobs i've not i'm not exploiting labor okay the needlework the thread count like it

really can't be it i'm i'm sorry and i hate to keep harping on this but this is almost a hundred years old and the quality is better than anything that you can buy right now i'm just saying they don't make stuff like they used to okay you say you hate to keep harping on it but it's all you've talked about since we got here harlan just saying this shit's durable okay the fucking fucking 90 year old hat man look at it looks like looks brand new looks brand new the furor wore it tori god i'm just laughing at the furor wore it the furor furor worn these are my furor worn these are my air furer ones that I got.

They're really cool sneakers. These weren't even around then. Yeah, I had Phil Knight makeup hair custom. Oh, no. Oh, no. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show.

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