The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 275 (Best of 5/15/23-5/19/23)

Episode Date: May 21, 2023

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a professor, a podcast creator, the co-host of the show Invisible Hate. It's Assad Boy! Assad! That was a great introduction.

One of the best I've ever had. Oh, come on now. Come on now. Got to show respect to Professor Assad. I'm doing well. You know, I feel like you missed a little bit about your New York experience. There's always someone urinating in the corner out there in Times Square. You know, I missed, I think, I think the NYPD is doing a good job of brutalizing people.

It wasn't happening. Yeah. So shout out to them. LA might be the new home of public urination. Because I'm seeing a lot of public urination these days. We've always been here in Portland, too. We've always had that. You know?

The weather's nice. You know? The pee-pees everywhere. Go outside for a pee-pee. happening here in portland too we've always had that you know the weather's nice you know the peepees everywhere go outside for a peepee we have a we have a lot of dog poop everywhere here in portland people don't don't seem to pick up after their dogs we have that in la too it's kind of i'm also i see it on the concrete and i'm like what the fuck like i don't know why i'm getting angry at the dog i'm like you're just comfortable shitting on the concrete right next to a serviceable patch of grass or dirt. Okay. I don't know why I'm like put myself in the perspective of the dog.

And like, that's like, and that's a bridge too far for me. Yeah. My dogs would only go when we lived in New York. They would only go as we were crossing the street. I think it's just as a test of just knew my metal they're right they just know that as i got more like the moment that i would want them to take a shit the least is when they decide to take a shit yeah yeah it's like the the red hand is blinking and in the countdown it's like three two here we go yeah so wait what did you do did you like in a panic like try and clean it up or did you oh yeah yeah i was like catching

it with the bag like wow and then about to get hit by like and like waving waving to the cars like i'm so sorry you know oh no i know that's a very high stress event for you yeah i don't like to fuck anyone's day up i'm getting secondhand stress from that too yeah what is something from your search history oh man i'm gonna i'm gonna reveal myself and my like weird interests. I'm fascinated with subcultures, right? In some cases, it's like the joy of seeing like Go Human Go, kind of like witnessing, you know, the beauty of what's out there.

But other times it's because I want to see what like God's up to, you know, like what kind of hell hath he wrought. And I saw on Twitter the concept of like you know it's been around for many years the concept of like the rise and grind bros kind of like um yes like nft zealots who just who discuss how to reach success and that really fascinated me which leads me to a recent search i did maybe a week ago which was uh entrepreneur tiktok compilation so i want to see as many as possible and frankly like i love it these are people like you tell you like uh how to make like twelve thousand000 in a month making like an Amazon reseller business or like investing in seeds or some nonsense. And there's a strange kind of eerie magnetism to them.

They kind of have this dreadful seriousness and like they act way too familiar with you. And they play like, I don't know, like the soundtrack to The Secret Life of Walter Mitty over it. It's like, frankly, haunting. And they all have like the same eyes like they see past you. Yeah. And it's all arithmetic to them. Like these robots have one tone and it's like, I'm the wisest person to walk on the earth. Right.

And I love it. Like the delusion, the solipsistic kind of performance of it all. I mean, there's probably loads of wisdom than anyone puppeting you know just like goodwill or soundbite wisdom can stumble upon but like frankly you know it's all it's all rigged anyway and it's like you're not really doing anything and i just love to see as many of those people as possible so that's kind of like how i spend my time yeah yeah It's because like, right. Like learning things about how to get, how to get that Lambo. You know, that's funny,

dude. Hey, when I look at you, I don't see it in your eyes. You know what I mean? Like I don't, I can tell that you go to sleep probably like maybe seven hours a night, which is basically like loser shit. You know what I mean? Like I'm up at two 30, you know what i know like i'm up at 230 you know what i mean and i'm looking at the like every stock market on earth and the look that you see in my eye is actually the lambo that's about to manifest that's what you're seeing shark shaped lambo i love yeah they all just want to sell their companies too it's like and then this is how you get the valuation then you sell your company like okay sure like if that's what you think but like it's that guy it's like that guy the five-hour work week this was like the i i remember like the first example of this where it's like guy who's like i'm all about this like lifestyle and

like you know how great my life yeah tim ferris and like how great my life is and like you too can have this but then like the thing he was like doing was just like selling bullshit to people and like making other people do the work for him yeah and it was like there there was just nothing there there's he like i think no good being produced other than his five-hour work week i feel like he may have actually been the originator of like how to get to lambo culture right because i believe in the four four hour five hour work week book he talks about this is how i can have a lamborghini he's like these are the payments this is what i'm making every month plus this that's lambo money

boom like problem solved one lambo boom onto the next lambo sell janky supplements online yeah that was it wasn't it yeah it was like supplements that was like his early early business and then it went into like the four-hour body and then it started getting a little wacky when he's like these kettlebells can put a butt on an asian chick was like one of the things one of the parts like was how it was written about like it's like i believe is it like a woman struggling to have a butt and he's like yeah but these kettlebell swings gave her that pop so everything i'm like i can sell you fucking anything you want a butt you want a lambo you want biceps bro it's all here what did these guys used to be like were they in the 80s were they just all like working on wall street or were they just like local salesmen they just did cocaine sales

i think the answer is spiraled out yeah right right but like what because they've replaced some job with just bull like nothing right what do they like it seems like they're all in in some version of a like multi-level marketing scheme that's exactly right i mean so what go back to 1984 and whatever was going on there you know computers are in the next thing you know what worked out for everyone like i think these like fucking gurus like you know that's the other like genre of like what this kind of person is they call themselves gurus and like they just charge you a ton of money for advice that fucking goes nowhere they're basically i feel like the kids of people who are like whose parents were listening to like personal power in the 80s

right right right you know and like early uh what's his face gigantic guy talk tony robbins yeah yeah self-help books on tape yeah like with the bag you're around that as a kid 18 tapes and a big like plastic container yeah like those disney like the old disney vhs because like that were like sort of semi-padded plastic cases i only know this because i remember my dad bought one and i was like what is this shit and i was like yeah okay maybe this will save steven covey like uh the seven habits of highly effective people like i feel like they were all driving around in their transams listening to that shit maybe yeah reading lee iacocca right you know but now they they're able to influence each other and uh we're just getting better and better as a

society i think is the is the upshot yeah and they've stumbled upon a really yeah really intoxicating offer which is sort of like you don't have like toil in your own way which is like get up and make your bed yeah it always starts it's always number one and people try that and they're like ah i actually do feel like a little bit better when like i just kind of you know get up and engage with the take a shower and yeah engage with maybe i should give to this guy's patreon this guy seems like he might be like on some next level that was that one was for free he said for 60 bucks a week i'll become a millionaire i can't even imagine what he'd tell me yeah what's something i think is overrated oh okay i got this one i don't know i don't know

maybe your audience is like cinephiles and i'm fucking myself and everyone's gonna but i find you know like sight and sound poll top movie i finally watched in the mood for love are you guys familiar with this movie in the mood for love no it's considered one of the greatest films of all time like it topped the sight and sound like a tour you know list in 2012 i think like it's always in the mix like letterbox people are always talking about in the mood for love is like actually this is the greatest film oh this is a wong car why yeah and this movie is horribly overrated it's like the thing is it is beautiful and there's like

the hallway thing with the music like if you've seen it or know it like that is great but the whole movie is just about two people who should fuck and then they don't fuck and that's the whole thing like and you're just like oh these guys should fuck you're like this is overly romanticized it's crazy it's like these two people whose partners cheat on on them with each other and then they fall in love and then it's like okay yeah so you guys can do it too you should fuck but they don't man it's and it's so interesting you bring this up matt because um i live with my sister she's you know the audience is familiar with her joelle monique amazing film critic so it's kind of hard to have an argument with her about this stuff so generally i come from a place of curiosity i'm like why is this or why does this happen she was watching some

melodramatic thing the other day. And I had the same thing. I was like, this was an eight minute conversation about whether they love each other or not. And I'm like, already four steps ahead. I'm like, just get to it. You know what I mean? And she was like, yeah. And she was like, you're missing the point of melodrama. It's like almost kissing is like the hottest thing, you know, not like not quite getting there. And I was like, all right. You know, I it's not for me, but like I'm I'm trying to appreciate the art form. The slow burn.

Yeah. Yeah. Of Will They Want They. But then you got to get to the burn. You got to get to the fire. You got to get to it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Come on. Yeah. And it's just like, why didn't they? Why? Why didn't you fuck like you could have fucked they could have fucked a bunch of times and then they don't and it's not really like it just doesn't i didn't believe the reason why they didn't fuck because

people fuck that's the thing the thing i know about people is that when they want to fuck they fuck it's okay to spoil this for me what what was the reason for not fucking there's no reason yeah i mean i get it because like for those people it's like it's like emotional edging for not fucking? There's no reason. There's no reason. That's what's superior. I get it because for those people, it's like emotional edging. Exactly. You're like, oh! Oh! Some of us are Neanderthals.

We're pro-Magnon man. We're like, just do the bang or not. Neanderthals, though, they never actually kiss. They would withhold. They were really good at it that was their thing they invented edging they invented edging as the first form of birth control

people don't know that that's why they died off they didn't procreate because they just thought they were just so big on edging it was huge that's what I'm thinking that's what I'm saying alright well cool I'd like to I'm glad to know like sometimes like there are those films and I like I like to i'm glad to like sometimes like there are others there are

those films and i like i like movies but not to the point where like i can connect with sort of those kinds of films and that's just me as a consumer i'm i'm more of a mouth agape airplane guy who views shit like that sometimes yeah no i love pretentious movies i loved bow is afraid for example that just came out was It was divisive, incredible film. I like that kind of thing. This one, my wife was asleep halfway in, and I was like, all right. Yeah. I thought there was a time, too, in the early aughts where all my friends who were big cinephiles,

like Wong Kar Wai was just beyond reproach. They're like, don't fuck, no, man. This motherfucker's a genius. No, dude. He's not, dude. Reproach. Like there's like, they're like, don't fuck. No, man, this motherfucker is a genius. Dude, he's not dude. Reproach. Approach him. Everything is good.

Yeah. I mean, you know, 2046, I fucked with that. You know, I wasn't, I wasn't mad at that.

Was that good? I mean, I remember at the time, I think I may have just said it because I was dating somebody who was like, you need to see this film. And I'm like,

yeah, yeah, yeah. I fuck with that. I have a bad habit of like, being like, yeah, what do you like? Okay, I'll try that out even though I don habit of being like, yeah, what do you like?

Okay, I'll try that out, even though I don't. Shout out Harry Potter films. Could only get through one. What's something you think is underrated? I'm so embarrassed to say this out loud. Birds. I fucking love to watch birds. Go off, bird queen.

There's so many amazing birds here i've heard of these things but i actually haven't so you're you've got a person who's underrating birds here i've heard of them but like i don't know i've heard of these birds they're little flying dinosaurs they're little flying dinosaurs how dare you yes i yeah they're reading uh what's the book that's about like the evolution of how they became so beautiful oh i don't know yeah i weirdly i have like i weirdly have an obsession with burbs and yet know nothing about them like made it a point burbs that is much cuter oh you heard that yeah oh yeah the rise of obsession with burbs i need a t-shirt that says i heart burbs now yes right please anyway yeah i like i really like them

i like watching them but i know almost nothing about them someone asked me like i had someone visiting the other day and i was like oh look it's my favorite yellow bird and they're like you mean the blah blah blah i'm like i don't know what it's called it's like it's yellow yeah yeah i don't know yellow bird i don't know i love birds you know yeah and i'm picturing that conversation happening around big bird by the way you're like i love yellow bird and they're like big bird you're like i don't know the technical name for it. Whatever you call him. I'm not going to hit you with a binomial nomenclature here, but I believe it's a yellow bird.

Ah, damn. My Google search, how birds got so pretty, did not bring up the book that I was thinking of. It's like The Rise of Birds. Evolution of Beauty. The Evolution of Birds by Sarah Hills. How Beauty is Making Science. The rise of birds. Evolution. The evolution of birds by Sarah Hills. How beauty is making science. The rise of birds. I'll figure it out by the end,

but I love that Google search. So it's good. Yeah. It's all about just, you know, they, they started, it's been a steady arms race of like how to be most beautiful bird since they started evolving

and it's like that like so humans won't kill them or is it some other no it's not like that's what i always assumed it was like there must be some you know survival of the fittest like killer be killed thing to this and it's just mating and trying to be the sexiest bird to other birds. Amazing. Yeah. I love it. See it? It's all about, yeah, it's all about being hot.

And that's also why their songs are so beautiful. It has nothing to do with us. They don't give a shit about us. I feel like you're just talking yourself into loving birds more right now. No, I actually do. I was, I was playing,

playing character of a guy who don't like birds. A bird hater actually do. I was playing character of a guy who don't like burbs. A bird hater? I love birds, too. I got nothing against them. Yeah, it's the one with the bowerbird that builds that immaculate sex throne. Yes!

The bowerbird goes around and gets all these shiny trinkets and different things like hey check this out this is a old plastic spoon like some of the dances some of the mating dances that they do it's like four dudes will do a mating dance so that one of them can mate and they are like elaborate and that was my one of my favorite planet earth segments too was on the one from all the different birds and like how they were just all getting down and then just watching like the disinterested female be like just fly away the man is crestfallen

sorry uh the evolution of beauty how darwin's forgotten theory of mate choice shapes the The Evolution of Beauty How Darwin's Forgotten Theory of Mate Choice Shapes the Animal World and Us by Richard O. Prum Didn't even have birds in the title It has burbs Burbs Burbs The burbs

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Yeah. What about Hunter Biden? What about what about? Yeah. Yeah. What about what else? What else? What about what?

Yeah, they took the mic at the open mic. Yeah, they took the mic at the open mic yeah they took the mic at the open mic you already did that one oh our house and they're like uh what about uh what about does hot pockets a bit a lot so yeah like what'd they find miles what did they unearth we've heard the threats you know in the lead up to the midterms and then after the midterms when they took control of the house they're like oh just fucking wait because we're gonna bring the fucking hammer down on joe brandon and they said there are all kinds of reports and things about how he took money as vp and swayed foreign policy um the thing is james cormor of the uh the chairman of the oversight committee of kentucky, doesn't have shit.

And he's doing the investigation equivalent of when you try to rob a liquor store with a banana in your coat pocket. Being like, I got that thing on me. Don't pick me. And someone's like, man, get the fuck out of my store. And that's kind of what's happening right now as the Republicans go on news.

People are like, even their own media is like huh but but what's the fucking evidence man like i thought you're gonna fucking embarrass this guy they're saying stuff like this is gonna end joe biden's presidency oh so as he's been saying things like many people have been going around to fox and you know giving little interviews he recently confused the fuck out of a few fox news hosts when he said he had the goods, but can't show anyone yet. And then our Senator Ron Johnson, he was on Maria Bartiromo show. And then this is what he said about like, well, like, do you have evidence? He's like, yeah. I mean, here's the thing about evidence.

The classic legal strategy of here's the thing about evidence. And money came from china and other uh adversarial countries by the way not just china but uh going into these llcs and then from there the money went from the llcs to to various biden family members what can you tell us about that what were they getting paid for yeah where the receipts again on the bank records you're not going to see bribe to change this policy you have to infer what's happening here you have to look at the bulk of the evidence you have to file the money and realize well so what did this biden family member do to earn that amount of money i mean that's what we did with hunter biden in ukraine i mean what did he i don't know if you caught that he just said you have to infer what's happening here right and then at the end of it he's like you're not going to

necessarily get hard proof is how he wraps up this very long-winded soundbite and maria maria bartiromo is like what the fuck man okay uh then uh we have another one where uh comer himself goes on fox and friends. Very friendly environment. And Steve Doocy is like, hey, man, like you're laying this thing out about all these bribes and stuff. Where's what the like? But evidence. And here's, again, just this very dissatisfied Fox News host sources between 2015 and 2017. 2015 and 2017. And your party, the Republican investigators, say that that's proof of influence peddling by Hunter and James. But that's just your suggestion. You don't actually

have any facts to that point. You've got some circumstantial evidence. And the other thing is, of all those names, the one person who didn't profit is there's no evidence that joe biden did anything illegally well if you look at the the laptop and the emails between the president's son and his associates they went to great lengths to hide joe's involvement they so this this like weird fucking merry-go-round has been happening for the last fucking week where even they're like what you're saying that shit's going on but you're not showing us anything that's going on and I just

have to say this continues again this is like never ending Maria Bartiromo is like hey Comer man you gotta come with it like you're telling us about this where the fuck are these people you said they got people who are like can attest to this you have whistleblowers and all this other shit.

Where are they? And again, it's not a great show from James Comer. More important potentially here, and that is this cover-up. You have spoken with whistleblowers. You have spoken, you also spoke with an informant who gave you all of this information. Where is that informant today? Where are these whistleblowers? Well, unfortunately, we can't track down the informant. We're hoping that the informant is still there.

The whistleblower knows the informant. The whistleblower is very credible. And all we're asking the FBI. So we now switch to, oh, man, I don't know where the whistleblower went here uh should oh actually he's just going to the bathroom but they're credible right so credible and just lastly just want to wrap it up because maria bartiromo was just like hold on bro what you just said that the motherfucker is missing like what's going on then again not a great answer but it's fantastic just in the

context of that this person probably doesn't exist. Hold on a second, Congressman. Did you just say that the whistleblower or the informant is now missing? Well, we we're hopeful that we can find the informant. Remember, these informants are kind of in the spy business, so they don't make a habit of being seen a lot or being high profile or anything like that. The spy business. We have basic information with respect to what the informant has alleged. Look at her face.

She's like, what is this fool saying? That Joe Biden, when he was... All right, anyway, so we've gone from that to... You can't expect, Miles, them to go on the hostile grounds of Fox News and stand up to the scrutiny that they always reserve for... Wait, no, actually, that... Those are the softballs.

He's taking big pauses. Like, he's on delay. Like, he's coming to you from the middle east or something proxima centauri right yeah well um they're in the spy business so they don't really they're not really high profile that's not relevant really like you're that's like asking like well who are these people then you could be like they're not really high profile people but to say like where are they and they're like well they're spies so they don't really like hang out places yeah it's like what you're saying so it's a very it's one of the shittiest diversionary tactics i've seen because like i mean i think they're what they're really trying to do they want they're running like

the 2015-16 playbook all over again where they're trying to get like a year out get some really good scandals to stick uh like they would have with hillary clinton but apparently they don't have misogyny on their side this time and there's just i don't know they're they're just they're scrambling now and you have marjorie taylor green who's like followed up that uh interview and was like they're not missing actually we know where they are and it's like what the... Okay, sure. We just didn't want to tell you that because my dad's actually a cop. Right, yeah. What? No, he's not.

All right, Elon Musk named Linda Iaccarino as the new CEO of Twitter. She is leaving her job as chairman of Global Advertising Partnerships at NBC universal. So this is she like, it seems like it's basically really focusing on ad support and like getting, getting ads.

It doesn't feel like he hired somebody who is experienced with like being a CEO. It's more like he is going to continue to be the acting ceo and he's like we need some we need some ad sales support so i'm gonna hire someone focused on the logic here of elon musk right he's like i've turned this into a hate speech powered hell site that's caused all advertisers to flee it's not it's No, it surely can't be the lack of moderation and the racist free for all. It's that I don't have someone with all the advertiser connections that I need. So, of course, you get somebody who's coming from a gigantic media conglomerate with all these ad ad relationships as a way to prop up your business when it's so clear why they fled. But elon keep going i'm sure she has a fantastic cv yeah well it does seem like her politics might line up with his because okay she follows the babylon b oh which i mean maybe she's just a fan of really great comedy but you know that's the right wing the onion but like their jokes are just fucking transphobic garbage.

Yeah, they're not jokes. As Shin Yee Pai would say, it would be a misuse of words. I would describe that. Yeah. Also follows the head of Libs of TikTok on Twitter. Oh, and she was part of Trump's Council on Sports, Fitness and Nutrition. Oh, although she also worked. Who's Council on Sports, Fitness and Nutrition. Oh, great. Although she also worked for... Who else was on that council?

Right. That's where I get all my... I get most of my nutrition and health and fitness advice from Donald Trump. CEO of McDonald's was on there as well, yeah. Yeah. But she also worked for the Biden administration creating an advertising campaign for the COVID vaccinations starring the Pope. Oh. Oh, wow.

You know who was on that on that council? Bill Belichick. Hell yeah. Really? Yeah. Yankees closer. Mariano Rivera. Mehmet, Dr. Oz.

Oh, wow. Urban Meyer and Hchel walker wow on there so yeah yeah among many yeah but because the new ceo espoused vaccines and masking and you know social justice in the past and is a woman uh-oh elon musk fanboys are melting down and rip twitter started trending at the end of last week when it was announced. These people don't know anything about fucking anything. Really?

Yeah. Okay, sure. You love to see it when their hateful politics, like, trap them, like, come back to bite them in the ass. This reminds me of, like, when Gina Carano thing, where she, like, self to bite them in the ass. Like this reminds me of like when Gina Carano thing where she like self-destructed her career for her like anti-woke politics, went and made an action movie for the Daily Wire. And like the Daily Wire fans were like, why would we ever watch this? It stars a woman doing action crap. No way. That's woke bull.

woman doing action crap. No way. That's woke bull. That's woke BS, man. They're like, what? I,

uh, yeah. I mean, it's, uh, that boomerang does, does come back pretty quickly. I like how people are just like, they just said,

all right, Pete Twitter, you just appointed a brain dead commie as CEO. I'll get this out there now. Fuck Linda Yakarino and everybody else and like really really yeah this yeah this person yeah they're such a communist but again they don't even know what communist is it's someone who who believes in science i think at this point is a communist and elon's still going to be involved right like he's going to be the cto still or something like

that is that is that what i heard yeah he's still going to be the ceo like this is this is true i think i feel like he's probably he was probably getting pressure from the board around you know his horrifying mishandling and like of everything doing a terrible job as the ceo of twitter and so he's like yeah i'll name a ceo uh who will have no power and will just only be focused on getting ad sales back and then we'll fire her once they can't uh resuscitate ad sales right like in three six months how long do you should we make a prediction is it six months is it a year that that she's there before she's fired for not yeah bringing the ads i mean i mean could her relationships actually get them to look past just how like garbage of a site twitter is do you like i don't know like is that logic really gonna track with

like i mean she's got relationships gm surely like she can get them to come back to the table. But I don't know. I mean, yeah, you got to imagine that for a lot of right wing media out there, there are advertisers that want to advertise on those platforms. And if Twitter continues to be this kind of cesspool of, you know, conservative, right wing, racist thought, you know, there is there are people that want to reach that audience, unfortunately. Right unfortunately right and yeah but they don't have i guess that's the difference is they don't have the spending power that would keep the website going like a general motors would right because it's just going to be like some crypto scheme that you know it's like about pillow company yeah or like pepe the frog coin or some shit like that. Yeah. But yeah, Linda Iaccarino.

Hard, hard row. I feel like companies are still a little hesitant to like go full on board. Like there is enough Elon Musk and like I'm sure like the CEOs of those companies in the privacy of their own right wing like Nazi memorabilia dungeons probably would would love to like openly come out in support of this sort of thing but they recognize that it's not popular but i am starting to feel like we talked before about how like america was ripe for a 1980s like Reaganite reversion, like popular culture, like goes full bore right wing and like embraces a like Republican right wing president.

I could see that like things are starting to shape up in a direction where if it's Biden versus Trump and like Trump seems to have a little bit more mental acuity than Biden does. Like I could see that being if Trump gets reelected, I could see that being the thing that all these CEOs are like, OK, finally, we can just like go full mask off. Like this is what America wants. We all like right are going to advertise with Elon Musk andk and like get full fully on board can always get worse i guess is my it's my read on this so yeah like as much as it doesn't make sense in the current you know zeitgeist for like twitter to suddenly like be able to turn the ad sales around and like for gm to start like like advertising on right wing platforms, I could

see a future where that's the case and where everything just kind of turns in in that direction, because certainly the people who make the decisions at those companies like they are on board with that. They are they all in the privacy of their own, you know, conversations with each other are having the conversations where they're like, yeah, we need to stop being so woke. Am I right? Yeah, I'm sick of hearing about how I'm making too much money.

Yeah, exactly. Of course I'm making more money than an entry-level person might come because I'm the CEO. Yeah. So do we think AMC is going to be advertising their new candy that they make on Twitter anytime soon? We'll see. Yeah, potentially.

Potentially. I mean, I might be advertising. I still have to taste test it. We'll see. We'll see how good it is. But yeah. Another thing that we might be getting on Twitter is. So I guess this is something they tried before.

Twitter blew. they tried before, Twitter Blue, where Twitter could become a dating app, according to noted relationship expert Elon Musk. He reportedly is considering adding a dating app feature to Twitter just in case people were worried that it wasn't a hellish enough site already. And the idea stemmed from a tweet from some guy who claimed that a Twitter dating app might save humanity from extinction, which we always know that Elon Musk is worried about saving humanity from extinction

with his dick. Of course. So, yeah. That's the way. Yeah, no need to worry about the ravages of climate change just worry about a data gap yeah a day hold on this guy's not fucking enough the world's gonna end racists aren't fucking enough yeah truly so he responded to that tweet

by saying it's an interesting idea that could provide jobs because that's how he gets his business ideas is just scouring his mentions, I guess. Yeah. Replying with the crying, laughing emoji. Also, that could provide jobs? Was that him pretending to be like a politician? Yeah. He's like, oh, interesting.

And that could provide jobs. Yeah. Like, oh, yes, yes, yes. Could provide him with additional children, too. Doesn't he have like 20 kids with 10 different people? He's trying to repopulate the earth like all on his own. Yeah. There already was once an official, unofficial Twitter dating site called Blue.

It was a dating service only for verified Twitter users, which never having been a verified Twitter user, I was not aware of this. Wow. But just a small fraction of the people using Twitter were able to use it, obviously. And the idea was to match people by analyzing the contents of their tweets. Oh, fuck. Which sounds just awful. Yeah.

I mean, hey, with the new AI, maybe they can refine that a little bit more. Yeah. I mean, they bragged that Blue was the safest dating community ever due to Twitter's verification system, but that obviously, since they have turned the verified tweet into a mockery of what it once was, they no longer can make that claim. No longer can make that claim, but it will be a place, I guess, exclusively for racists, Elon Musk reply guys to find each other and date one another if they're so inclined. And repopulate the planet.

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Reality Pro. Feed it to my black mirror. Oh, yeah. This is great. Give me that fucking feeding tube of black mirror actually happening. Mm-hmm. Right in my gulag. Just human centipede me up.

So these are goggles that are going to everyone's raving about how they far exceed everyone else's VR device. And they have an augmented reality feature that is the thing that kind of caught my attention because some people are speculating that they will actually like this product will eventually replace our iphones because it just puts all of the information that you typically use your iphone for puts it right in front of your eyes basically like gives you augmented reality terminator vision and like how does it do that by like adding things to like glasses. No, it actually like the, the goggles are opaque,

opaque, like a VR headset, but they have cameras. So it's like, have you ever been in like a car with one of those rear view mirror cameras? Yeah. Like the rear view mirror is replaced by like a little, Oh,

the rear view mirror is like a screen. You mean? Yeah. The rear view mirror is, I know you mean yeah the rear view mirror is i know i've seen that but i haven't i haven't actually driven one but you know i know what you're talking about yeah yeah like that's it feels like it's that but for all reality you just have turn your eyes into a screen yes yeah i want them also to like cover your ears and then have speakers in them, you know?

Yeah, right. Wear gloves, gloves that like are haptic feedback. So let's just like eliminate all the senses and replace it with like a surrogate drone. Right. That's what I'm all about. Yeah. And then like put the different. So like people are saying like the problem with this being revolutionary is like one

it costs three thousand dollars which is well above the price point of everything else but i guess that hasn't stopped apple in the past i love a consumer purchase that makes you the easiest target for robbery i know simultaneously you know what i mean that is like oh he got that 3k heads i'm like a 3k headset watch i'll sneak up behind you and just yoink that and i don't even need to sneak just walk up and punch him in the stomach and grab their glasses or there's a delay even if you're coming from the front oh the delay the delay the late off by half a second oh shit but it's man so like the thing with vr is that people are like it just they haven't created their killer app yet like there's just it's just for gamers it's like a

fun thing to play video games with but like in terms of wider adoption it just hasn't like broken through right and i don't expect apple to be the place that like figures that out. Right. But the augmented reality like that, like one of the images from the Daily Mail article about this is like, you know, showing how walking directions could be displayed on a screen in front of you. a screen in front of you yeah oh like google maps kind of like yeah in a few in a few meters you're going to turn right here at this hour right kind of thing and with like facial recognition technology like i could see a world where like now you have a database of everyone you've ever met and like can have context for that displayed on a heads-up display in front of you like i think there is something like the future is going to involve somebody somehow inventing new senses for people that like we can add to our existing senses and like new inputs for like all the amazing like capabilities you can have via technology but i just i don't know maybe this is it you definitely look stupid wearing them and look like the biggest target on the planet for

robbery or whatever like you're just walking around with a blank thing on your head like right with no peripheral vision right although like that like maybe it gives you eyes and back your head like maybe it gives you extra good peripheral vision for what yeah i mean to your point like it's not offering anything anyone fucking needs right now oh if you have an apple watch it'll that shit'll start but if you need to like walk somewhere like turn right here right here right here right here right here right here right here i don't need to walk somewhere, like, hey, turn right here, right here, right here, right here, right here, right here, right here. I don't need to see a dotted line to where I'm going down the street to be able to make sense of that. I have the ability to do that. Or I don't need to know what time it is in the upper right-hand corner of my vision. where it has all this interesting data that maybe is useful to someone in the future where it can like, you know,

aggregate all this stuff together in your field of vision. Like that's probably more useful when it's something like a contact lens you put in over your eye than full on like put this mask on where I'm like sort of like losing all sense of direction.

Or maybe not. I don't know. That's why you have the headset because it gives you direction. With the iphone with ipad or ipod it was like very obvious like what like the thing they were creating was just a much better version of something that was like having all the internet in your pocket was an amazing innovation like we didn't have to think up why that would be amazing for them whereas this is like it just feels like you're having to do too much work for them to like come up. Like, I don't think of Apple as the place that's going to maybe like after, you know, decades of development, then like, things will start to become evident where where this will be useful. like things will start to become evident where where this will be useful but my favorite thing about augmented reality is that especially if it's in the hands of corporations like you know apple

it's so easy to like there's they're doing so much work on like you know facial recognition and all the stuff that's like a lot harder to kind of program but it's so easy to just like see, oh, there's an empty space, a wall there. You know what that wall needs? Just an ad for Apple products. Just a world of ads is what we're going to be stepping into. Because it's a corporate thinking, right? How are they going to make their money back? If they're selling it at $2,000, $3,000, they got to make their money back somehow. And that's gonna create the true dystopian nightmare yeah right it'll be like just overlay it on like objects too that it doesn't think you're interacting with it's like i got hit by a

i think the latest marvel film in a poster but driving i the goggles completely obscured it because they just layered an ad over that moving vehicle. Help, I can't see my wife. Have you thought about taking the goggles off? No! No! They stay on. Exactly.

All right, let's talk about Richard Dreyfuss. Abe, I don't know. Is this your king, Jack? This is a segment of the show, Dreyus talk that we have uh most mondays we just check in with richard dreyfus see what he does what's the fuss with dreyfus yeah we covered the his last talk with bill maher it was really great in the last installment of this that a really riveting conversation uh but this time he's made his way over to the firing line to talk about just all this dang inclusion going on in Hollywood. And he's asked a question, old Dickie Dry Dry saying, hey, you know, have have diversity measures gone too far?

You know, like they're talking about and the host brings up like the Academy. They're changing its rules for 2025 awards that are you know again meant to encourage more diversity inclusion if you were trying to get a best picture film then like maybe let's do more than like what we're doing so having like at least one lead character in the movie from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group or have 30 of the general ensemble cast be from at least two, uh, unrepresented groups or have the film focus be about a group or like even with the crew, like the people that you hire, you know, like you can still have a very maybe white movie, but maybe have more women and, you know,

people of color, LGBTQ, whatever people working on the set. So then that's your way in. So Richard Dreyfuss has a very interesting take on it. And we'll just we'll just let him speak for himself. He's asked very, like, you know, the the host, you know, talks about these new efforts the Academy is making. And just Richard, what's what's your take on this? Let's hear from Richard himself. They make me vomit. Oh, let me let me just let me just actually give you the full context from underrepresented racial and ethnic groups what do you think of these new inclusion standards for films they make me vomit why this is on blaze news because well this is from pbs is an art form it's also a form of commerce and it makes money, but it's an art. And no one should be telling me as an artist that I have to give in to the latest, most current idea of what morality is.

Hmm. Okay. So here's the thing you guys are missing, though. We solved racism in 1998. Yes. With Krippendorf's tribe. Yes. Gaga Bundo, I believe, was the tagline he said when he was about to have sex with Jenna Elfman.

There you go. Yeah. I remember the film well. No more introspection needed. Yeah. I don't know why I know that film so well. I think because it was so fucked up. Like when I was like, oh, this could be interesting.

Like, oh, this is so backwards and fucked up. Like, holy shit. But yeah, also commerce. But let's allow him to go on because he does raise some interesting. By the way, I do love just his reduction of diversity and truth and storytelling through like actually giving alternate points of view involvement in the industry as being like he dismisses it as like the latest fad in morality. Right, right, right. This is where he really brings it home. And I think this is where I have to agree with him.

Like for all the nonsense racist talk of earlier, just, you know, I'm just leave me alone. I'm a boomer actor. I think he really makes a really good case with this next talking point. And by that, I mean, he digs even fucking deeper. Let's go deep. And I'm sorry, I don't think that there's a minority or a majority in the country that has to be catered to like that. You know, Laurence Olivier was the last white actor to play Othello. In blackface. And he did it in 1965.

In blackface. And he did it in blackface. Oh. And he played a black man brilliantly. Am I being told that I will never have a chance to play a black man? In blackface. Is someone else being told that if they're not jewish they shouldn't play the merchant of venice are we crazy are we crazy dude i guess the entitlement already is this like his perspective

is you're telling me i can't put on black face if i want to. Oh, no, no, no. Art. I went to a costume party with a guy in the 80s. And he went as Michael Jackson. And it brought the house down. And you're telling me that that wasn't funny he also has his glasses like all the way at the end of his nose like it's so precariously there it's just it's an interesting vibe it's grandpa tone oh yeah oh yeah he's also exactly like has there ever been an actor who like portrayed just like such like he not not

only does he seem uncool but he also seems like an asshole and like just like this is exactly what i would expect from him he's that's it's like what about bob feels like a documentary yeah yeah but it's like like like look at like spielberg knew this immediately about the guy like he he cast him in like close encounters he's like i need a man child like i need someone who would just get rid of their family because they have an idea you know like this is the kind of guy this kind of vibes he sends uh right. But he had that song stuck in his head so bad. So bad. Also, our writer,

J.M., pointed out that on Twitter, he's been corrected. Patrick Stewart actually played Othello in 1997 in a production with reverse casting where he was the only

white person in the cast and everyone else was black. Right. So he could still maintain like the sort of the overall tension of Othello of someone who is from an out group maybe say something interesting without without blackface yeah but are you telling me it's just like the way he says it you're like shut up richard

dreyfus you're freaking her i'm gonna vomit it makes me want to vomit. Okay. I do think we need to add the, it makes me want to vomit. Sound drop. Soundboard. Like that just feels like it was, he said that to me. Make me vomit.

It really does have like shock jock energy. They make me vomit. Okay. They make me vomit but and so uh great defender of uh the status quo and and obviously i mean why didn't he bring up uh robert downey jr's seminal role in tropic thunder i mean wow you're you're i have you richard dreyfus really isn't even up on all the modern blackface. You know, fucking Jimmy Kimmel as Carl Malone. That's right. You know, some of the greatest performances we've ever seen from fucking idiots.

Shockingly recently. Yeah. Are you telling me that I would not be able to play Draymond Green if I wanted to in his biopic? No. I reject that notion. I'm an artist. I can kick with the best of them. Yes.

This wokeness is a problem that you're going to ignore until it swims up and bites you on the ass. Or I die. Or I just die and go away stop being so fussy fussy old dick that's what i drive yeah he is dry wow yeah he doesn't seem like he's yeah he seems dusty and ain't pretty dusty doesn't seem like he's seen a lot of moisture in his day like when he talks like it's like when's seen a lot of moisture in his day. Yeah, like when he talks, like it's like when you eat a bunch of saltines, and like just the dust comes,

like as your mouth can't absorb, it's like... Yeah, he's part mummy. Yeah. He's doing the gradual, natural mummification process. Yeah. But hey, shout out to art, though. Also, watching the...

I was looking at, like, Olivier as Othello. My God, y'all. It ain't. It's not that. Brilliantly! It's like mid... So many people have done Othello really well. It's pretty mid.

Oh, it's mid as fuck. And then you just can't get past the black... It's like so bad. You're like, I'm sorry, what the fuck? Yeah, that's mid as fuck. And then you just can't get past the black. It's like so bad. You're like, I'm sorry. What the fuck? Yeah, that's also to me. Now, general, no more of that. So has set me on the rack.

I'm sorry. It looks like a fucking. How about this right here? Oh, my God. Farewell. Content. I'm sorry it looks like a foot how about this right here oh my god farewell content oh it's straight up like the oh it's like shoe grease it's like blackface

oh yeah it ain't like here's a skin tone right how about we take a bunch of lead pencil shavings and use that as your foundation? Yeah, it's like the shit from Al Jolson. It looks like that. Yeah. It's black face, darling.

Darling. And I will have you know, farewell, you doomed troops and the big wars that make ambition virtue. Brilliantly. Yes. Amazing. Makes me vomit. Yeah. Makes me vomit. Makes me vomit. The Nets could go

0 for 82 and I'm smiling at you like that shit's gravy. Because me and my nice fellows in Paris Okay, I couldn't go that far. I'm Sir Lawrence of the V8.

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