The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 277 (Best of 5/30/23-6/2/23)

Episode Date: June 4, 2023

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I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.

Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have

changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti

and I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation,

then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one non-stop infotainment laugh extravaganza uh yeah so without further ado here is the weekly zeitgeist miles yeah we are thrilled to be joined in our third oh yeah very funny stand-up comedian writer actor, actor, producer, creator of Boast Rattle, a compliment contest. Never seen it.

A podcast where famous comedians rewrite classic movies they've never seen. He hosted the podcast Faking a Murderer where he talked with eight comedians for eight hours about the show Making a Murderer but didn't tell his guests that he'd never seen it. I know those are old credits, but they're very funny

oh yeah very funny welcome to the show the hilarious kyle some of those are still around yeah you know it's hard to make puns out of new true crime shows otherwise i would i would be out here pretending to know about those um you know there's not the the didn't winks it's hard the jinx is even my newest reference you can tell how much television i watch winks the stinks it's me did you guys hear about this lindbergh baby i'm here to tell you about this new true crime things very hot the stinks is a podcast where you just keep farting with your guest in the room but i'm pretty sad everyone they bring it out on our uh fitbit pun discussion earlier that was a good time yeah i know we were talking i mean let's take

them back through it you know we're talking about the succession finale yeah uh we were talking about how you know i think our last sentiment before we went into the weekend was uh it would be awesome if they somehow presaged the orca attack yeah and um had like all the succession children get their whole shit bit yeah um and then they were like swimming around in the ocean at sharks and they reference fucking sharks they're like i don't want to get in there there's too many sharks and then they got in there did you start levitating when that happened because i almost like a fucking i almost like had the hydrogen atom like burned into my forehead like fucking dr manhattan i'm like yes i'm seeing it all now their whole shit shall be bid but the internet is so cruel they could have got eaten by a regular shark and people would have said you guys weren't even close because you said orcas right right exactly no you didn't predict anything yeah you said fucking orcas dumb dumb yeah but upon uh

reiterating we wanted to see them get their whole shit bit kyle you came up with a brilliant invention oh yeah to track your bowel movements and the health of your poos there's the shit bit yeah which lets you know how many i how many times i would say the opposite of steps how many times you uh your legs fall asleep on the toilet every day yeah oh yeah yeah if you don't like the shit bit you can get the crap a watch it works with ios um just kind of depending on what operating system yeah that's tim uncooked salmon is in charge of the crap a watch i believe uh would that be a toilet or a peripheral device you wear i feel like the toilet is would be the most effective tool it's just all about getting you into their ecosystem um yeah yeah their fecal system their fecal system the biome the apple biome

okay i'm sorry uh this is gonna be funny this is going to be the Orca to Shark closeness in like five years. There's something that's going to come out. They're going to make you didn't call it the right name. So you didn't predict it. Right, right, right. We got to keep it big. Jackie Sneal. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are or what you are interested in right now?

Let me let me talk to the ladies real quick. Fucking Maxwell show. in right now let me uh let me talk to the ladies real quick let me talk to the let me talk to the ladies in the house yeah turn your radios down you wanna all right so let me tell you something you know how it always surprises me that like men don't know about the female body like basic shit you know and things like that you want to know how to get a dude to learn just like the most basic shit about things like periods and tell them like you might be pregnant. And that motherfucker is going to get on the Google search and that nigga

going to learn everything about ovulation. He going to learn shit about your uterus lining falling down. Right. He going to learn. He going to learn about your cycle. He going to be like, all right, so is your basal temperature up or down?

Wow. Italian basal temperature up or down there wow italian basal temperature let me what's your what's your basal temperature now now now when you got the mucus coming out of the the cervical mucus is that thick or you gonna let he learns he that's how he learns right like miles and dan both like now what the fuck is that let me tell you i just had a baby i'm like this is new you just had a baby but see it wasn't but it wasn't a pregnancy scare you were ready for the baby you was like oh the baby coming i shit i did my job the same way the same way when you're trying to be like yo is this is this it is this it you do start being like okay what's like did you do the p-stick? You know what the hormones are like? Yeah, we got it. We got to learn this shit. We got to become we have to know it just as well as our partners, especially if they are women. You know, we got to know this. So that is what's my good. That's my good.

I mean, apropos of nothing, I'm guessing you didn't have any kind of moment where you thought maybe that your your fortunes had changed in terms of the fatherhood department. Oh, you know, listen, no, I'm not saying all that. I'm just saying that's just some material you're working on. That's just material. I'm just saying for the ladies out there. Allegedly. Allegedly. want you to know that if you want if you want your man to know a little bit more and and you're not like trying to conceive just be like whoo my mood is feeling a little weird i feel a little strange right now yeah they i think the like super hetero hip-hop men would be like yo you mean like lil

wayne that late text oh shit i know about that yes but i think that's i think that's i i it always baffles me when i like i said it does baffle me that like we have not been expected to just know more i mean hey baby that's just patriarchy you know what i mean like we live you know you grow up in a fucking existence where it's like yeah and there's you and then there's them other people and then as long as you're as long as your shit working, don't worry about it. The women will handle it. And then you realize you're like, oh, that is not equitable at all or any kind of world I want to live in.

And then you learn shit like, I shouldn't say this because this is a joke, everybody. But then you learn shit like, if you ain't ovulating, then you can bust raw nuts. Oh, right, right, right, yeah. You mean the old fucking yeah terrible terrible man logic yeah yeah old head logic right i had a family member like that oh one of my younger cousins who was living like that and i was like bro you like that's not science and he's like

he's like but hey man if you worry about that stuff then it'll happen and i'm like yes i'm like are you manifesting my sperm got worry in, then it'll happen. And I'm like, yes. I'm like, are you manifesting? If my sperm got worry in it, then it's going to find it. You cannot manifest contraception. Okay. But okay, do whatever you got to do. What is something you think is overrated? Well, I was racking my brains on this.

And actually, Miles, your comment about wearing shoes really resonated with me. I actually hate wearing shoes. I was reminded being in this last bowl at Soho Works of I used to work for a branding and strategy agency. And we had a meeting I thought went quite well. And then my boss called me into a one on one huddle afterwards, which I wasn't sure what the message was going to be. But he was like, a one-on-one huddle afterwards, which I wasn't sure what the message was going to be. But he was like,

we all saw you, including the clients, carrying your shoes around outside the meeting room. Please, please at work, always keep your shoes on. I was like, you know what? Very embarrassing, but probably fair enough. Wait, so were you going like sockless, like full on bare feet? No, no, I had socks. I had red socks, which is a terrible British habit.

And just thinking I was, you know. Nice low key, bright red socks. That put in one hand, shoes in the other. I feel like, I guess sometimes when, I'll take my shoes off. I've been at that place. I'm like, get these fucking shoes off. And then like, I'll walk to like the office kitchen in like my socks. But the only time I remember getting in, because I've been in a similar situation. Like, you're not wearing shoes. I'm like, you act walk to like the office kitchen and like my socks. And I, but the only time I remember getting in,

cause I've been in a similar situation from like, you're not wearing shoes. I'm like, you act like I'm in bare feet. Yeah. Like different. It's different. It's different. I'm at least respecting, like I'm having some kind of foot covering on. I just don't like the structure of my shoe and it's more comfortable.

So please leave me alone. And I'll go back into my office and look at Reddit. That's one of the, uh, the always that was articles every summer, which is like, what's the correct etiquette on the airplane based on the frontline experience of the cabin attendant or host or hostess. And, uh, the advice is always, you're allowed to take your shoes off, but not your socks, but you have to take your shoes back on before you go to the bathroom, which I'm, I'm, um, I'm, I'm often keen to do. Yeah. You don't want to wear towels on your feet to go into a bathroom that's what i look that's what a sock becomes at that point but yeah

i'm sorry i'm like looking there's a fly flying around here and i thought there was a bird in the miles no i'm about to clyde frazier this motherfucker like i'm like catch it real slow shake it around in your hand then release it just release it back in the room and let it start all over again but no i am a big shoes on energy just for everyone that i have ugly feet that smell bad okay i've always kept my shoes on and i've always looked upon people who just sit down on an airplane and take their shoes off with wonder and awe well my shit smell good. That's great. I'm never uncasing some stinky feet. I'll keep the socks on because it's cold on an airplane. People who go bare feet in the fucking plane, no, that's a violation. I will say that.

That is a violation. An FAA violation. Yeah, 100%. I cleared out an entire dorm floor in a basketball camp when I was 12 12 years old with like my my socks oh no like that happened to like yo like the other wing of the dorm that's so funny what is that shit that happened to me in fifth grade not me but a kid in my school we went to this like camp and like we were in these dorms and his shoes smelled so fucking bad like everyone lost their minds and it kind of turned into like a low-key bullying thing yeah you're like yo this wasn't

great and it was like he cried and shit and i remember like oh damn i'm glad my feet don't smell because that's how they get you yeah it was definitely formative and that's why i wear boots to bed when i sleep i keep my boots on i know that's i remember when we were on tour once you're like hey do you have a like some garbage bags and duct tape i'm like for what i yeah i will frequently even if you're in a hotel with like the little the windows that only open a crack i will hang my socks out the window i've lost my sock get the foot spray. Get the foot spray. And they're actually not that bad anymore. It's just, but I'm pretty self-conscious about it.

But the pain, the trauma has already occurred. The pain is there. The pain is there. What's something you think is underrated? I just watched Nanny, directed by Nikyatu Jusu, and I don't know if you've heard of it. Phenomenal.

I feel like it's not getting enough love. I have hardly seen anybody talking about it. It's so beautifully shot. It's like a psychological horror movie about a nanny who works for this wealthy white family, and she is Black. And it is so good. And it is black and it is so good and it is chilling and beautiful and heartbreaking and just a really incredible film. So, yeah. And I haven't seen hardly anybody talking about it. So, yeah, I love it. Yeah, it came out in 2022. And I remember when it came out, like the reviews were so positive and I was like, I've got to see this. And then it just disappeared from, like the conversation so yeah yeah i think people were a little like this is in a horror movie you know because it's sure it's real it's different and it's real and it's really interesting and uh and they take it in like incredible directions so i think kind of horror fans were some horror fans were a little

like i had to think during that yeah so they didn they didn't like it, but I loved it. I thought it was absolutely stunning. And you can watch that. It would appear on Max, the one to watch. Really? Max.com. I don't know. I just said, Nanny, where to watch because I speak to Google like I'm just learning the English language. Mine says you have to

throw your pennies, your tuppence at Jeff Bezos for this one. Oh, really? Yeah. I watched it on Amazon Prime, but I think it's around. Okay. throw your your pennies that your your tuppence that jeff bezos for this one oh really yeah i watched it on amazon prime but um i think it's around okay hey look pick your poison you know it could be miles has a miles has a professional relationship with bezos and i have one with zazlov so our listeners know yeah we're always doing the work too we got a we got a chat thread bald bros all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some dystopian shit. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer

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It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And let's talk about Taylor Swift. Her concerts are sweeping the nation. Everybody's excited on social media and they're so excited they're apparently suffering from mass amnesia because some Taylor Swift fans are reportedly attending Taylor Swift concerts and then have no memory of the event afterwards. It's called by people on social media, not by the medical community. It's called they're calling a post-concert amnesia. So what are people saying that they're just like they're like, are they true?

Like, I don't know what happened. One person claimed that if it hadn't been for a video of her at the show, she would have told everyone that it didn't happen. Another person said she had spent so long dreaming about what it would be like to see the singer in person. She later claimed she couldn't grasp what was reality. It's hard to put together what you actually witness. So I don't know. Has she like Taylor Swift? So I don't know. Has she like Taylor Swift? I've seen the, the like, so there was a tweet that was like one of my tweets of the day that was like comparing the like stage design to the really complicated shirts from season

two of, I think you should leave Dan flashes. Yeah. Dan flashes really super complicated shirt pattern. Yeah. They're more expensive. Yeah. More expensive because the patterns are so complicated and like her stage design looks pretty complicated so i don't know if she's like

done something that has like i've never heard someone say it's hard to put together what you actually witness right before i is it because like part of me is thinking like one version is like hyperbole from fans to talk about how amazing it was that you you're like, literally, I don't even know what happened. It was so magical. But like, are there actual people like, no, I'm actually worried. Like, I don't know what happened. More like on that level is more like it was such a dream. Like, I don't know if I was just out of body or whatever.

Or I guess or they're saying like, it's hard for me to Like, I don't know if I was just out of body or whatever. Or I guess, or they're saying like, it's hard for me to specifically even call back something from the concert. I know I was there, but that's about it. After that, I just went into an absolute dream state. If the CIA were to align itself with an artist, I feel like that would probably be the correct, like that would be the choice.

Taylor Swift. Yeah, yeah. Right? Oh, yeah, I think so. But it's a little, I mean, like that would probably be the correct like that would be the choice oh yeah yeah right oh yeah i think so but it's a little i mean if the idea is that it's such a transporting and extremely magical experience that you're literally not able to form memories it makes a little disappointing that i've certainly never i don't have ever experienced that i've definitely been drunk enough i don't remember what happened in college but um but the idea that has such a transcendent experience that you can't remember it kind of makes you wonder like what am i i'm missing out on the on the highs in life by not being a big taylor stan now i'm getting like

fomo because like i've seen artists that i've absolutely obsessed over yeah and been like i'm there i'm gonna be front row and i remember that shit like yeah i fucking it was magical like i was like i'm here i'm experiencing it exactly how i want to but yet to your point i was i'm like so is there like another level like another level are these people just getting really drunk for the first time like it was crazy i like had seven to 12 drinks and now i get no so according to one psychology professor, this is something that can happen when someone is in a highly emotional state due to exciting or distressing factors. The neurons associated with memory start firing indiscriminately, which makes forming new memories difficult, which is the opposite of like I had always heard when you're in like a heightened emotional state, you are more likely to like have a like flashbulb memory, you know,

like that's, that's when you have those memories that really stick because you're like, have this heightened state of arousal. Don't tell that to Ron DeSantis, who's denying people from Guantanamo recognized him. Right. How are they going to remember that? It's like,

I don't know, man, people remember shit in those moments. That's what i know some people claim not to remember parts of their own wedding is the example that they're giving so it's like and i so i've noticed this like with being a dad like i will look at a video that i've taken of my kids and it's like just there i'm like i don't remember that at all i don't remember saying those words at all i don't remember my kids looking like that because because i'm so like that has to do with just like i see them every day so like what they look like is just what they've always looked like in my brain but

you know i i think there's something there that's like missing from my understanding of memory because the only thing that i had the only interaction between memory and emotional state that i've really had room for and like the thing that i built in when i was like a teenager based on like accepted knowledge was that like scared or excited you your memory like works better. So, but, and then really drunk, your memory doesn't work. Those were the two things that I knew of that could affect your memory. That's my psych degree. And then like, there was also the stuff about, you know, repressed memories of abuse or traumatic experiences. But like, I had always kind of, because a lot of that stuff ended up being recovered through hypnosis and like led to it with involved in a lot of the satanic panic stuff

but it does seem like there's a little more here where like there are forms of heightened memories or like excitement or you know like with my, it's like the love is so strong. Like my brain can't look directly. Like it's like trying to look directly at the sun or something. Your brain just like isn't big enough to take it all in is like kind of how it feels. So maybe that's what they're experiencing with Taylor Swift concerts. Maybe there's a new merch opportunity,

like the spinning coin in Inception that could be sold to Taylor Swift fans before the concert. So they knew their thing. Or you know you're here. Yeah, exactly. Because she's a master of repackaging things they already have. And be like, well, what about this version? This will only be available for 24 hours. And it has half a song on it that you haven't heard.

How about that? Buy that. But yeah, maybe she does start selling reality totems. So if it keeps spinning, you know what's going on which is funny because when you say that jack the first thing i was like well does this happen at beyonce concerts because that's the only other group of people who i feel like i get the swifty connection like these people the parasocial relationships that they have with taylor swift is to the next level so like i can tell that they're already like operating in like a psychological space that might be different than other fandoms.

But it's interesting because the only thing I was like, I just searched Beyonce post-concert amnesia and an article just came out 10 hours ago. Oh yeah. Beyonce fans also getting post-concert amnesia at Renaissance. So I'm like, is this a marketing thing? Like what the fuck is this?

Could just be a few people on Twitter reported not being able to remember something and everybody jumped on it. But like, I mean, there are psychology professors and like this Psychology Today article claiming that like we focus, this Psychology Today article totally does not vibe with like

how I feel like my memory works. They're like, you focus on experiencing the world, not remembering it. So if people are truly living in the moment and enjoying the concert, they're not necessarily doing the work of trying to make new memories. It's like, I don't intentionally ever make memories. I'm not like, oh, I'm remembering this so fucking hard right now jack you member in you member in right now god damn this is good remembering but yeah so i don't know but i get look i'm again all i take from this is i'm actually

i have fomo that i've never blacked out at a concert. Like that wasn't chemically induced. I blacked out at a concert for understandable reasons. That wasn't chemically induced. Okay. That wasn't me abusing Xanax or some shit. Like I'm talking about like, I'm fucking levitating because I love the artist so much. And now what is the Swifties again?

Or I'm part of me. Like the joke, the jokey side of me is like, I think they just want to forget that she's with maddie healy and all that that's happening right now right yeah anyway but is the concert like i guess it's hard to ask this question because you you can't really but like are people saying it's like a really great concert who aren't like inherently huge taylor swift stands oh i don't know i mean i the people

who i know who are taylor swift fans who have gone i feel like everything's been so pot like no one is saying a bad word about it yeah obviously because the tickets were so fucking expensive and hard to get i think that's the other part of it too is like you're probably so stressed because you spend like a fucking mortgage payment and a half trying to get a ticket to the show yeah but yeah i mean the other thing is too they're wearing people are wearing uh adult diapers to the shows no yeah really because they don't want to miss a thing like there's a bunch of tiktok clips of like people helping their homegirls like get into some diapers another person was like uh was like

taking a selfie videos like i'm at the show and nobody knows I have diapers on. And then you like move back and they're clearly wearing under their skinny jeans. Like, yo, uh, something going on with your yoga pants. I'm seeing a thin blue line appear in the front, like a's diaper but yeah like again i i get that part like i think i've told this story i peed myself at the front row of jay-z at coachella a few like 10 years ago because i did not i didn't want to miss anything and i when i saw how far i would have to travel to go to the restroom and then fight through a fucking gigantic pit to get to where i was i was like no we're doing this right here yeah so and also like we already mentioned everything about you smell your pee smells fantastic so it didn't oh yeah yeah i'm very well hydrated you know what i mean you're not

gonna get that like that sort of terrible like uric acid oh yeah no no no no no all right america is rethinking the whole parking spot thing thing. So there's a new book by a guy named Henry Graber that's pointing out, like, specifically, New York City could repurpose some of its three million curbside parking lots, which would then provide, like, the amount of space that's taken up by parking in just New York City to put things in perspective is the area equivalent to 52 central parks. That's like, how is that physically possible? Because every street in the city is lined on both sides with park. Everything is. And there's no alleys in New York.

Yeah. They don't have, could you make 52? Like what's like, what is the proportion of central park demand i'm sorry i'm getting like real nerdy here i'm like because you've got central park is about 150 tooth of the amount of parking that there is if you need to visualize it that's actually really helpful that's a good way to put it now i can picture it um yeah i mean it wouldn't like

you wouldn't be able to move the buildings around and create 52 central parks obviously like the equivalent square footage is what they're saying? Yeah, equivalent square footage. You know how your intestines are like 7,000 miles long or whatever they are? That's what parking is like in New York City. You look at Manhattan from above, you're like, there's no way that my crap-a-watch could fit and do all that. Now, unwind it. It's 52 Central Parks. And then that makes the sidewalks where the trash goes.

Right. And then that makes the sidewalks where the trash goes. Right. Well, that is one of the things people are pointing out is it would make it possible for there to be proper trash storage so that you could actually put trash in New York City in containers. No, no, no. Which does not currently happen. And it's why New York is synonymous with like having a horrible swarming rat problem not only does it not happen when you type that sentence out in the dock a red squiggly line goes underneath it that's like how little new york has for trash

cleanup but like just living in new york there are like these massive snow banks of trash on the sidewalk sometimes. It's truly wild. I remember as a kid, we pushed our friend into it when we were walking because we were like, dude, when he gets next to it, just fucking launch him into the trash. And he disappeared. We haven't seen him since. Just shouldered him. If you don't do it on that opportunity, you can do it nine feet later at the slightly larger truck.

Yeah, exactly. I don't think this was an efficient way for cities to rebuild, but New York has never quite fully burned down like San Francisco and Chicago like to do. And what happened when San Francisco and Chicago burned down? Those parts of the city have nice alleyways for storing trash. That's right. I'm not saying that. I think maybe this parking thing is a better idea than purpose fire, but I'm not a city planner. Precision arson is your solution, Kyle, to every problem that we raised before we started recording.

It really, really is. It is. Yeah. Everything from like, yeah, like protecting our democracy. The debt ceiling. Precision firing, now it's the debt sky. That's right. Which is the link. Yeah. I mean is the thing out yeah i mean i think

yeah new york just got 9-11 and we got a police state so that was like the best we could do manhattan has tons of places to store trash uh yeah that's true you have to rebuild a lot of make these alleyways and yeah really and really cool camera arrays they're just jetting up from everywhere to be like what is this like we're looking at you we're looking at you motherfucker nah it's it's made everything safe forever but so our writer jam kind of looked back at some some past examples we've talked about paris um we've talked about some cities in the netherlands uh zurich back in 1996 flat out stated there would be no more parking in the city like if a developer wanted to create new parking spaces they would be required to remove that many parking spaces from the city streets

i love that that's like a nightclub it's like one in one out yeah exactly like yeah the fire marshals there with the clicker hey sorry i'm sorry i need a few more out just on a stool holding a clicker paris has been street parking, replacing it with underground facilities. And last year, they passed a law requiring parking lots big enough to hold around 50 American-sized cars. Jesus. I love that. We stand for something in the global community.

When they see American-sized cars, it is the hot dog car from I Think You Should Leave. That's right. Right. If it can hold 50 American-sized cars, they're required to build raised solar panel canopies covering at least half of the surface of the parking lot, which would be the equivalent of 10 nuclear power plants.

So, I don't know. That's cool. It seems like these are all positive ideas. Hey, just with that, you'd have nice, clear streets and the power of 10 nuclear power plants. Like, wow. This does sound like the meekest superhero origin story. Right.

Solar man. He could be called like the Paris Accord because he was parking his Honda and accidentally got electrocuted by the solar panel. And now he's just pretty attuned to traffic flow. And then Berlin, one neighborhood experiment with getting rid of parking spots altogether and are like allowing bikes and scooters to occupy

spaces that used to be exclusive to cars. So this is all like, these are great. When you look at pictures of these places, it's like, here's what it used to look like. And it's like an American city. And now here's what it looks looks like and there's just like all these amazing creative things that they're doing with all the sidewalk space and you know like they have things called bike highways in paris that are just what used to be streets that are now you know parks with bike lanes going through them essentially in the u.s so there are around

two billion parking spaces in the country uh which amounts to nearly seven parking spaces for every car which seems like too many guns and parking are uniquely american problem yeah that's got to level out if you just like get rid of houston right yeah maybe like all those statistics like there was just a move at the like when cars first became a thing like they encoded all these laws these like zoning codes that mandated minimum parking requirements for real estate projects that basically said that when a new building goes up there's a minimum number of parking spaces that need to be provided or like the city will fall or else and like everyone has been like that turns out that's not the case jackson wyoming a

study found that there were 27 spaces for every home so there's just wait you're telling me there's 54 parking spaces in jackson wyoming that's right but it was actually like inverted at this time like when these zoning restrictions went into place uh the cool thing was like among young people like was driving like that was and like public transportation was like what the old people were into and used but like driving was seen as like individualistic and like you controlled your own destiny and like that's the the book on the road is like the bible for this shit but i don't know it feels like now we have an opportunity with a generation coming up that like doesn't even get their license at the same rate as ever before right and that think cars are shit um so it seems like there should be

an opportunity here to roll some of this shit back but it's just a matter of you know getting out from under this massive system that there's one thing i've found it's that americans are generally receptive to uh wide sweeping change so i think if this is presented on a local and a national level and they hear it from anyone they don't care for they'll think if this is presented on a local and a national level and they hear it from anyone they don't care for they'll be in this is something they'll jump on board for just listen to reason on this one yeah we have like these dumb fucking zoning laws and like the worshiping of parking spaces and we're i think we've talked about the past how cars are getting too big for fucking parking spaces because every car manufacturer is like people will buy bigger

cars for more money so just make them fucking gigantic to the point you can't even park them in the old parking spaces. And a lot of that has to do with the national automobile dealers association. Cause they're just like a massive lobbying group. And they, you know, they're, they, they got all the dealers on one page and like, they definitely help push through a lot of that kind of stuff too. I don't have like a massively informed, uh on this but i do know that tire companies like firestone were very big on sabotaging transit in los angeles oh yeah los angeles used to have like a huge amount of rail systems yeah like above ground like san francisco style rail cars and then they just pushed they were invested in by a company that was essentially funded by firestone and general

motors that just was like we should get rid of all these and make it impossible to get around this because la used to have so many more stops such a vast transit system yeah if you look at the old layout of that old system your your eyes would water and i mentioned this on a past episode like growing up like you'd you'd you'd like trip over the old infrastructure, like in the street. You're like, what the fuck is this? It's like, was there a train here? Yeah, no, 100 percent. And it's like the like the asphalt is like revealing a little bit of the track.

And then some older person's like, that's when the trolley used to come through here. And you're like, no fucking way. Get away. Get in my Honda. It was like it would be from like long beach santa monica this is just super specific to la but like massive and sprawling all the way out through the valley and everything yeah just completely replaced because for some reason a tire company wanted more cars yeah yeah and even buses instead of the transit which are a lot less efficient and

harder to track and things like that yeah i think it was that and also just that it was like seen as cool like it really was like cars were seen as cool. Like it really was. Oh, yeah. Cars were seen as cool. I mean, they still are. Early freedom, you know. You're 16. You can get out of your house and go somewhere on your own.

Yeah. Go smoke pot by the lookout. How'd that work out for James Dean? Right. Exactly. He was making sausage. Actually made him seem really cool. I just saw a statue of him up at the observatory.

There are some U.S. cities getting rid of the minimum parking requirements at least there's been 15 in 2022 alone um which it also has an impact on the housing crisis because when you like are building something that requires you to build a bunch of like find a bunch of parking spots for it it just like changes how you approach the thing it makes it way more expensive and then those costs get folded into uh the the cost to the builder oh wait no sorry folded into the rent or the price always um regardless of whether or not you they love to pass those savings on to you yeah that's right um just get you you guys want in on this too we're thinking about going in on some parking regardless of whether or not you, they love to pass those savings on to you. Yeah, that's right. Um,

just get you, you guys want in on this too. We're, we're thinking about going in on some parking. You guys want it. All right. Why not? No, we have a big problem.

That's right. Also, apparently we have a big problem with, uh, people murdering each other over parking spaces, uh, which I wasn't aware of, but,

um, yeah, it's an annual multi dozen occurrencezen occurrence apparently it was weird i took a guy's parking spot that he really wanted he was really angry and then i tried saying no no there's seven of these for every car in america yeah he wasn't listening to reason that didn't calm him calm him down and you should have you should have an abundance mentality sir not a scarcity mentality there's a car i drove up to griffith observatory with my dog and we're hanging out up there and there was so little parking that people

are like almost fighting each other to pay ten dollars an hour yeah yeah i had that same experience and just turned around i was like well this has been a nice ride drove off the edge of the cliff yeah i was like it just drove into the ocean. That's what happened to the O'Doyle family. No parking. It just went right off the edge. You know what, kids? How about we go to the ocean and get our whole shit bit instead?

That's right. I'd rather do that than this crap. But yeah, it really does bring the weirdest shit out of people. Because I feel like on the internet, you always see videos of who like stand in a fucking parking space like with their hands on their hips and they're like no go around go around my husband's coming with the car he's coming with 45 minutes away yeah my husband's almost born and it kind of and i get so like fucking incensed by seeing those videos and i'm like i like for what and i you can tell when you know how shit can go left in those situations because people are so

fucking protective or exercise this bizarre fucked up sense of ownership i think chicago has like wild unwritten rules about chairing off snow spaces that you've dug out like if your car was if it snows around your car you're allowed to put a folding chair and take keep that spot for the day if you've done the work if you've done the work or something like that and you know you know the thing about those unwritten rules is everyone loves them yeah when someone just throws that chair 40 feet and parks there you're allowed to key their car and take a shit on the hood yeah yeah zyking let us know what are the weird parking laws uh there has to be i feel like there's a lot of this weird unwritten stuff that exists can you cover the sidewalk does a chair take a spot where you know i mean there's got it it feels like city to

city and town to town i was always blown away like when i was in seattle recently how people just park on the wrong side of the road too like just they're like yep i don't know fuck it park on whatever side i want to to park this car and like as an like la person where we have just such fucking draconian like parking enforcement rules i'm like is that is that's allowed here in this whimsical town all right let's take a quick break. We'll talk some shit about Seattle off mic and then we'll come back. No, I'm just kidding. But what the fuck? They parked the opposite way?

What's wrong with them? And how'd that work out for Kurt Cobain? Thank you. And Jimi Hendrix. That's true. That's right. All right. We'll be right back.

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research. No medical research, but like actual medical papers. And that is news. Listen to like every, you know, professional medical association and pediatric care group. So my mind is so blown. So Louisiana State Senator Fred Mills is a Republican. OK. And just just so you know what kind of Republican he he has like a flawless record as an anti-abortion sicko. Like he's got one of those perfect ratings from those anti-abortion groups, but he just used his position to make his state the first in the

South that has voted down a ban on gender affirming care for minors. And you're like, huh? What? As the chair of the health and welfare committee, he blocked a gender blocked a gender affirming care ban bill from reaching a floor vote. And you're probably thinking, is this one of those moves where they vote down like those super vile, extreme fucked up version to make it seem like, OK, we're not that bad. And then just replace it with one that's just like a couple degrees less like fucked up. No, it's that he read medical reports and analysis. He read the report from his own state, the state of Louisiana, Louisiana's Department of Health that said what basically all medical professionals have been saying about gender affirming care. No, it's not mutilation. It absolutely saves kids lives. It's not something people come to regret,

like at some kind of ridiculous 30 percent rate or whatever, like those weird talking points that Republicans have. Most kids getting this kind of care are around 15 and 17, not four years old. Also, no minor child has ever received any kind of fucking surgery, despite all the lies you hear about like these doctors who will like mutilate your child, this, that, and the other. So when he voted to kill the bill, he basically said, I read the reports and the stats, and I was convinced that this is something that should be left between a patient and a doctor because ultimately I trust doctors and that they're not like groomer pedo demons like my colleagues have been saying. I just I don't know.

I just read the thing. And again, it's important to note that while there's this report from the Department of Health and the Department of Health in Louisiana, there was a similar report from Florida last year that a lot of Republicans have been waving around to be like, look at this report on gender affirming care from Florida. OK, this is, this is why, this is what we're fighting for. This is the report, as you can imagine, coming from Ron DeSantis's Florida was devoid of any kind of real medical research or anything. This is what a, this is how a Yale professor categorized this quote unquote medical report from Florida. Quote, the report makes false statements and contains glaring errors regarding science, statistical methods, and medicine,

ignoring established science and longstanding authoritative clinical guidance. The report makes false statements and contains glaring errors regarding science, statistical methods, and medicine. Ignoring established science and longstanding authoritative clinical guidance, the report instead relies on biased and discredited sources, including purported, quote, expert reports that carry no scientific weight due to lack of expertise and bias. So repeated and fundamental are the errors in the June 2nd report that it seems clear that the report is not a serious scientific analysis, but rather a document crafted to serve a political agenda. And you're like, wow, how did this happen? Anyway, the whack jobs in his party are already calling for the bill to be bypassed and sent to the floor for a full vote. The governor in Louisiana is a Democrat and he would most likely veto it. But again, it's a fully red state house, so they could override the veto. So it could be an interesting merry-go-round. But for now, this is a great moment for anybody who gives a shit about gender affirming care and rights for trans people. And it's just like this weird moment where a guy that looks like a cartoon

version of a Republican actually read the facts. And I'm still, I'm still shaken to my core. And yeah, now he's being harassed. Like the national right wing apparatus is like, this guy's a groomer and already coming after him. And when he was asked by the local paper, if he cared about all the people focused on him, he said, quote, why should I?

I didn't run to serve them. They don't live in district 22. They don't even have a 337 area code. So I'm like, wow. Interesting. Think for yourself sometimes. Yeah, it pays off. It's just a similar thing happened, I feel like in Utah, where they had like a super hardline bill and there was like, well, one passed in Idaho up here. The session HB 71 passed the House. It bans all gender affirming care for minors. The governor signed it becomes law January 1st up here. And we're already between that and our extremely draconian anti-abortion laws. We're actually seeing a ton of medical professionals

leave the state. We're losing a ton of doctors because I talked to a doctor on my podcast or our podcast, I guess. But he said that, like, you know, you go to school for 10 to 15 years. You can't risk a felony charge. You can lose your medical license for a felony charge. And all it takes is somebody to say that you provided gender affirming care to a minor. You don't even have to be fully indicted and everything like that and be found guilty because what will happen is just the charge itself will make it so that you lose your malpractice insurance and you can never get it back once you've lost it. It's very difficult. So they were like losing tons and tons of doctors from the state right now because they're like, I'm not going to fuck with that. I'm not going to risk

losing my malpractice insurance. And I kind of feel like in a way that Idaho, you know, Idaho, Utah, Florida, these places were like test cases for these really horrible, horrible laws. And what you're seeing is places like Louisiana say, oh, actually, maybe this is a terrible fucking idea. Also, sadly, I watched all the hearings for HB 71. And it was very, very heartbreaking to see how many of the Republican senators and House members said, I read the research. This every all the research goes against this bill. I have trans family members that this will affect, you know, minors. I think this bill is terrible. Still voted for it.

They all still voted for it. And it was like a ton of people who were like, I'm morally opposed to this and then still voted for it because they didn't want to deal with the fallout. They didn't want to deal with the national right wing, you know, fascist machine coming after them. So they just voted for it. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's like it's so the way this guy looks, I got to show you this guy, Dr. Fred Mills. He like if I just showed you based off just a vibe check, like this Republican, you think he's a, where do you think he lies there? He's got like a,

like a all white seersucker suit. Like he looks like foghorn leghorn as a doctor or some shit. But yeah, it is like, again, and I think this is only to do with the fact that his background is a pharmacist probably led him to have half a fucking brain when it comes to like medical research to know yeah there's shit i don't know yeah and if all of these professionals who

like i know are not like like you know goony whack jobs are saying this is actually beneficial for these like young people well who the fuck am i to like push back against that and yeah and a lot of people suspect you know his terms coming up and this is maybe like his last act to do something like normal before like you know exiting uh politics but my god yeah he he clearly wasn't fazed by like people like matt walsh coming after him because we're seeing constantly like you know like we talked about last week the target stuff how many how easily you're seeing people cave to this kind of outrage in a time that like you know this the the attacks on like gay and transgender people in america is just

it's like there there've there've been a hundred bills i think that have been anti-lgbtq bills that have signed the last five years and 50 of them have come this year jesus christ like that's the that's like the rate at which this shit is ramping up and yeah we're in a time more than ever where we need to be able to like demonstrate like that we stand with these communities but again if you have enough people who want to go live on instagram and tear down your fucking store displays in a target and then yeah it's it's causing a real back and forth but it's unfortunately just leading to more discord and violence. like politics and it's like carefully coordinated and they're using insurgency tactics to like and dark money and the fact that they have a lot of money behind them to do these things but i mean

like there there's this uh recent report that like 11 people are primarily responsible for the majority of book ban requests like that in right like that we're seeing that happen in so many places across the country and it's just like a handful of extremist people again it reminds me of like the westboro baptist church where for a decade they were like at all these events and you were like man people in america are so dumb and then that you find out it's like a single family that is doing this shit. And like, I, I just think there is sometimes a level of like hopelessness that might take hold because the way the media covers it is that it's like, well, that's half the country and the, there are reasonable people in the other half and it's like not it doesn't seem to actually be the case yeah just well you i've seen it a lot with like you know like in states like montana other places that have had like drag bands where people come out and they counter protest the fucking ignorant people who want to go and be hateful and they're

fucking outnumbered every fucking time i've not seen one time where there are more be hateful. And they're fucking outnumbered every fucking time. I've not seen one time where there are more like hateful bigots, you know, out there in mass than a group of people who are there for acceptance or equality. And they're like, yeah, man, there's just more people here. And yet I think it is it is a little it is dangerous to like kind of keep focusing on it because it does give this impression. But just like we talked about with like Moms for Liberty, there were enough parents who saw Moms for Liberty groups pop up in their areas and they were just like talking to other parents like this is bullshit. Right. And they're like, yeah. And like, do you even know these people? Like, no, I never fucking heard of these

people. They don't even have kids in our school district. Yeah. But they're well funded and they're exactly what really well organized. Like when HB 71 went to the governor, like when the anti-trans bill went to the governor, like when the anti-trans bill went to the governor's desk here, you know, everybody, all of us were like, call, call, call the governor, email. And in the end, he got thousands and thousands of calls and emails in support of trans people and against this horrible bill. But the group funding it, the Idaho Family Policy Center, which is funded by outside money, people not even from Idaho, they robocalled. They set up robocalls to the governor and they were

able to make it look like they had more calls like on paper. But then it turned out that they had spent like $5,000 to get these calls. They were just robocalls. They were fucking fake. So like, yeah, I think it's easy to think, oh, oh, we're outnumbered by these bigots. But even here in Idaho, which is probably one of the hardest places to be trans, like Florida and Idaho maybe are the hardest places. But even here, I really think that the average person does not give a shit. And it's really these outside actors who are the same people who are burning masks. They were able to take this group of people, get them very fired up.

These QAnon people get them fired up about masks, get them fired up about tyranny. And then now they can just laser beam them to anything they want, essentially. And it's not that many people. Like you said, it's like 11 people with a lot of time on their hands. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think this is distinct from Trump supporters. I think Trump does have a lot of supporters who show up at the ballot. But like you know, a lot of the school book bans. Like, I think most people, even if even if they're Trump supporters are like, I don't want my children to like not be able to read books. But like the Trump the Trump supporter in the QAnon thing is like it may be not QAnon, but the Trump supporter base is always like surprises me in the other direction, like how big it actually turns out to be, unfortunately. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's there's a white grievance politics and then they're totally off the walls.

Like we basically want Nuremberg laws. Yes. You know, right. For gay people. for gay people. And that's, I think, you know, that's like the one historical parallel that we have to be able to be like, there's like, we're seeing this momentum building against a group that is on the margins of our society. And this is, I don't know my history, my history lessons. I'm like, okay, well, we got an election coming up and I've read all these stories about how Trump's next bite of the apple is going to be if he gets into office. It's all about radically expanding the powers of the president's office. Yeah. And it all, I don't know, seems seems really bad. Yeah. Just as a historical pattern, which is why, like, yeah, let's get you a Winnie the Pooh book.

And I think that would be nice. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I think that would be really nice and soothing. Yeah. Maybe that's what it takes. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

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