The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 280 (Best of 6/20/23-6/23/23)

Episode Date: June 25, 2023

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You might recognize us from our first show Locatora Radio Listen to Senora Sex Ed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. So without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an award-winning journalist,

author, public speaker, the host of the new show Big Sugar. Please welcome Celeste Headley! Celeste Headley. Nice. Welcome. I can't have you guys do that intro all the time. Yeah. Anytime you enter a room, we are available for, you know, a small fee.

Yeah, just walk in and shout my name. That would be awesome. Yeah, yeah. We moonlight as town criers for any kind of dynamic intro. Yeah, we can read from a scroll and everything wow that's i don't know how much work there is for that but you know i'm not gonna lie it's it's feast or famine feast or famine it really is i'm sure we don't have to ask you this but this is that is the dumbest opening to a show that you've ever been on i have to imagine i probably don't even need to confirm that but that that's correct okay you can take that you've ever been on, I have to imagine. I probably don't even need to confirm that. That's correct. Okay. We can take that. Put the crown on. Thank you. Yes.

Here's your crown, King. Well, thank you so much for joining us. Your new show, Big Sugar, is fascinating, kind of mind-expanding, also just kind of crystallizes, to use a sugar industry term, crystallizes a lot of the things that we already suspect about the world of capitalism and industry in these United States. So thank you, first of all, for your work on that show. It's really cool. Thanks. Thanks so much. I mean, I learned a lot doing it also. It's one of those things where you kind of pull the thread and it just keeps... And you're like, it's still going? Pulling. Exactly.

Everything's unraveling. Exactly. Yeah. But, you know, it's important. This is stuff, you know, I know. So this is all stuff that we should know. But without diving completely feet first into it, I should say that one of my big takeaways after doing two years of work on this is that I don't think we should be responsible for also policing our industries. I think that we shouldn't have to be the ones constantly having to keep watch over whether industries and employers are following basic ethical rules and regulations, both environmental and human. Yeah. So, yeah. But I got good news, Celeste. We don't have to because that's what the regulators and the government do, right? Yeah. And they're super But I got good news, Celeste. We don't have to because that's what the regulators in the government do. Right. And they're super well funded and always up to the task, as we'll get into. Yeah. Right. All right. Well, we are going to get to know you a little bit better. We are going to hop into all of that feet first. We're going to talk about, you know, there's just right chock full of conspiracies. There's a conspiracy to, you know, under real, real conspiracies. Yeah, I guess people now think just conspiracy means conspiracy theory. It's like something you're these are real vast conspiracies to keep the truth about the health consequences of sugar quiet and from affecting how much sugar can be put into things. We'll talk about just this powerful oligarchical family that is kind of at the center of the story and basically like slavery that exists in the United States, you know, basically to this day, some of the worst working conditions. So we'll talk about

all of that. But before we get into the new show, we do like to ask our guests a little bit about themselves, such as what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? So I just went through my search history and what I found was me looking up specific answers to the crossword question for today. Okay. So I looked up a very specific Irish word, for example, which was the name of an Irish god in order to answer a crossword. And that's personal because I do the crossword every single day. I get very, very long strings, the crossword and wordle every day. So there you go.

How are you doing on wordle? Wordle is about where I max out. I'm excellent. I'm pretty good at wordle. I mean, I guess I'm pretty good at my average I get by the third line. Okay. That's good, right? What is that?

That's par, right? What is that? No, that's a birdie. That's a birdie? Oh, Celeste is averaging a birdie over here. Wow. Okay. That's pretty good, right?

Tiger wordles. Wow. Okay. That's pretty good, right? Tiger wordles. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty impressive. And then on the crosswords, I do that too. I Google for help on specific answers. Well, because some of them are like names and like specific. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. I don't know that stuff. Yeah. That actually makes me feel better about myself. I was like, wait, you know about like Celtic Yeah. Yeah. All right. I don't know that stuff. Yeah. That actually makes me feel better about myself. I was like, wait, you know about like Celtic gods?

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. What is something that you think is overrated? Avocados. Okay. What do you mean? Okay.

Well, come on, expand on that. Just, I mean, I say this, I'm going to get, I'm going to get email.

I'm not, cause I'm from California. I just think they're overrated. They put avocados on everything thinking an avocado is going to improve everything. And avocados do not improve everything. So example. OK, what's something that you're like, that's it's this isn't this isn't that different. You just put avocado on it.

Is there something specifically like knock it off with avocado on that? Is there something specifically like knock it off with avocado on that? I'm just going to say in general, like there's there's things like there's sandwiches that shouldn't have avocado on them. Like there's hamburgers that shouldn't have avocado. I mean, sometimes maybe, but you bite into a hamburger and avocado is this is a squishy piece of food, right? Like that's going to be a mess, you know, so maybe cool it with the avocados. Yeah. Are you, how are you on avocado toast? That's just toast? I'm a no on the avocado

toast, right? You know. Wow. Okay. Favorite avocado dish? If you gotta give it up to avocados in one form or the other, where is it perfect? I'm from California. I mean, it has to be a guacamole, but. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm just California. It has to be a guacamole. Yeah. I'm just bad at picking.

I'm bad at timing the ripening of them. Unless they're ripe at the store. I fuck up. They're like, oh yeah, three days. Then I wait the fourth day. It's got worms having a party on the inside. I'm like, I'll fuck this up. I get a little fun. You can't go really by color.

You have to go by firmness. Yeah, squishy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I like it firm like an apple. I like to just bite into my avocado and just have it crisp. It should have a crunch in my book.

Interesting. And Gen Z, I love all of your avocado creations and save your mail for celeste because i'm team avocado okay team avo over here i'm a coward oh by the way celeste i'm a coward just in case yeah that that'll be tone clear but there'll be a lot of disclaimers where i'm like big sugar uh we actually are big fans on this podcast love the domino company obviously for everything they've done for us but yeah i feel like i see now it's funny how like the avocado wave like it became a thing i

feel like in california like 15 years ago where it was just like you will not avoid it and we're like okay fine and people are like okay this is cool And now it is to a point like, for me, avocado, tuna. I like a tuna sandwich, but I see a lot of avocado on tuna sandwiches now. And I'm like, that's a little too much for me. For me personally, not a big fan. But then I see how now like it infects the rest of the world. Because when I travel like abroad, you'll see them like add an avocado for five euros. And you're like, man, that's fucking expensive but like yeah exactly yeah i think this pasta dish is fine without the avocado absolutely spaghetti bolognese with avocado

with avocado you gotta have some avocado slices thrown in there i would say just generally like sliced avocado on a sandwich like i I actually really love avocado toast, but like, that's a great, like to, to guacamole that avocado up so that it's almost like a spread that just like, Oh yeah.

Stays on there real nice is, well, I feel like we should see more burgers that have like avocado spread. I think that probably the issue there is that so many avocado spreads are just like green, like mayonnaise that's been dyed green. Right. And so people are distrustful of it. But I don't know. Yeah.

When the little chunk of avocado is like squeezing out every which way. Right. That's hard. Yeah. Because it's already like a, it's like the slipperiest food anyway. It is. And sandwiches are known

if when they're made incorrectly, you are like ejecting elements of a sandwich out the sides if you bite too hard or the wrong angle. Yeah, it's like avocado and cooked mushrooms. Like those two slippery things. You have to be careful how you use them. Yeah, like banana.

If a banana wouldn't like work on the thing, the avocado probably isn't going to work either. Yeah. Like banana. If a banana wouldn't like work on the thing, it's an avocado probably isn't going to work either. Yeah. But we didn't have generations of, you know, avocados being slippery the way we did with bananas and cartoons. So. Right. Yeah. All right. What is something that you think is underrated? So I'm going to stay with food and say iceberg lettuce so i'm x you know i'm a child of the 80s yeah and iceberg lettuce got such a bad name right like everybody was all about the romaine and the kale and like it had arugula yeah but i gotta say i'm coming back around to iceberg like i think it's gotten a bad rap. So I'm all about the wedge salad lately.

I love the wedge. I know, right? Like, I think it's pretty underrated. That's a fantastic. Oh, quick question we like to ask. If you're a big wedge head, you fork and knife in it? Or are you just taking like a big melon slice? I am definitely not melon slicing.

That is a question we ask all our guests. I feel like the last time the wedge came up, I was like, you ever eat it? Just like a big, like a wedge of melon. I feel like I've already made my opinion clear on messy eating. So I'm going to go with the fork and the knife. And how are you on blue cheese on your melon slices though are you are you a fan of that i i i have recently devised a blue cheese vinaigrette dressing oh so i don't like creamy dressings very much but the blue cheese vinaigrette i'm all about yeah playing god with a blue cheese vinaigrette yeah right yeah what was the thing though like when people were just off iceberg because they're like it has no flavor and it's like devoid of zero nutritional value to it, which turns out to be not true.

Ah, there's a little bit stuff. Like, what does that mean? Like, way more nutritional value than iceberg and that no i mean if you're gonna say iceberg has no nutritional value it's not like romaine has way more right that it's like a superfood or something right yeah it's just a leafy issue right exactly yeah so yeah it's you're just choosing one leafy green over another so yeah i mean as a child of the 80s i mean the i remember the first time someone put like a mixed green salad in front of me and i almost had a panic attack because like what is this was yard trimmings like where's my crunchy ice also a child of the 80s you know and in my you know my cafeteria lunches it was all that light pale green know, but that was all limp and watery and had been sitting in their walk-in cooler

for, I don't know, seven, eight weeks. I don't know how long it sat in there becoming goop. Yeah. And that's kind of how it got a bad rep. The iceberg needs to be fresh because it's got all that crisp water in there. Yes. It is the crispy. It's water in crisp form.

And refreshing. Yes. And refreshing. Yes, very refreshing. I just like to, after a jog on a hot day, just bite into a big handful of just a big head of iceberg lettuce. Yeah. You love it. I mean, that's why you're, I think you still can't go to the Whole Foods by your house, right? Yeah, they get mad at you. Yeah.

Well, look, they don't don't understand yeah they shouldn't have that mister there being so enticing you know but you know it's wild though too like because of factory farming and stuff like rome i remember just how romaine lettuce used to have a flavor and now it doesn't like when you buy it at the store or like arugula too like i know when i've had like good arugula because you're like whoa shit like some peppery rug yeah but now i feel like the rocket you know as it's described in other places just it's not coming the same way as it used to yeah so you know i'll go back to iceberg i mean i will just say just in in defense of iceberg it does have potassium and vitamin a and vitamin k and calcium and vitamin c i mean it is

not devoid of nutritional content right so i wonder who started saying that that feels like such a weird take because it's like it's still lettuce y'all like who the fuck it was probably big sugar big probably like you guys should have jello instead. Like, wasn't that a big movement in the 50s? Everything was green jello. Replace all salads. Yeah. You have your vegetables and fruits in jello form. You don't need these lettuce. Let's forget about the cuisine in the 70s.

Yes. Yeah. What a time to be alive. I've heard. And the fashion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I'd always heard the other food that I feel like I'm slowly waking up to the fact that it has a nutritional value is potatoes. Like, I had always heard potatoes were just like Wonder Bread, essentially, like the Wonder No, they're saving from Skirby. Yeah. They have like a ton of different nutritional value. Am I the only one? Did I just maybe like associate too hard between

potatoes and french fries potentially yeah maybe you might have i think but then i'm like you know like the inkens gave us potatoes you know what i mean so like i'm like yo i'll fuck with them so there's got to be value there potatoes have a lot of nutrients in them yeah yeah like i said and i always knew that so producer justin you cut out that part where I said I didn't know that. Okay. Cool. What is something you think is overrated? Okay. Whenever people talk about pregnancy, they're always like, it's like an alien growing inside of you. Right. Yeah. That's your baby.

Well, that's the thing is it used to be that way in a real safe kind of mental picture. Right. And I had this whole process of sort of like coming to terms with this like birthing because so for other neurodivergent folks out there, ADHD folks, we are relational learners, ADHD folks, we are relational learners, relational learners, and very visual. And I have to be able to picture shit and to be able to like fully access it. And I was like freezing up and not able to actually plan for my postpartum and third trimesters and delivery because I was just like freezing up. I was so scared all the time. I was like, I can't do this. So the first thing I did, if you want to do this too, it really helped me

to get past the like alien baby mentality into something more natural. I started watching a lot of anal sex porn. Yeah. That's what I was going to suggest. I'm glad you got there on your own. porn yeah that's what i was gonna suggest i'm glad you got there on your own just a lot i was just talking about this to like really understand the movement of the perineum and how it expands and it can stretch and what the human body is capable of just in terms of pressure down there you know it's a phenomenal thing and a lot i watched a couple of like you could look up backstage anal sex preparation okay yep yeah yeah get that o-ring ready listen there is some professionalism back there that i am impressed with yeah and now you know i think this is correct but the baby doesn't come out of that one, though, right?

I don't. Wait. Oh, really? Wait. I'm actually I could use confirmation on this, too. Yeah. No, here's what. Butthole babies are a thing if you tear.

Yeah. Sure. Sure. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course.

And then it's sort of. And it's just all one big cloaca. But this is what I was so scared of was like the tearing and the, you know, and I wanted to understand how, how is there a way where it's not going to just be horrifically painful and tear and all this stuff. I wanted to get myself out of the fear of it. And then my husband was like, I understand you going to these anal sex sites, but you could also watch birthing videos. So I started watching. That might be more one-to-one. And that blew my mind because the OB literally reaches in and is like, she's right there and touches her head and pulls out a whole human. And I had this moment where I was like, she's right there and touches her head and pulls out a whole human.

And I had this moment where I was like, yo, it's not an alien. It's not a picture in an ultrasound. I just was like really humbled because I was like, all of us come from underqualified women's vaginas. None of us know what the hell we're doing yeah we all think birth is like this noble thing but we're all just like we're so organic yeah this is this is so mammalian right right and that connects to my underrated yeah the alien thing i wonder if there was a strong uptick in that after the film like that because oh i'm sure the most visceral image maybe in film history is like that chestburster so and i i do think that things like that really burrow their way into into people's unconscious

well and here's the other thing I learned about midwife activism is that, so check this out, in the 40s and the 50s, the popular thing to do was to just put women under general anesthesia. Right. Just knock them out. Just knock them out. And they would put them on under

like purple and twilight, which if you're not familiar, those are the drugs they give you so that you're like still cooperative, but unconscious. Yeah. And the hypnobirth story is she goes in, I totally forget her name, Mangan is the last name. She goes in and says, I want to deliver naturally.

The doctor says, sure. She wakes up with a baby in her arms. Wow. Right. Like that's how little they listen to anything women had to say about their own bodies during birth. Right. And it was a part of the feminist movement to have birth naturally.

And that became bigger in the 70s. Lamaze came around. Right. Right. And and so did Alien around that time. So I bet there's a link up. Oh, yeah, that does. Yeah, that makes sense that makes sense what's uh

what's something you think is underrated y'all we gotta talk about costco y'all uh-oh wait what is what is that never heard of that you know a little a little um you know a little uh membership store membership store yeah yeah a little mom and pop membership store i it was so funny because i floated around getting a costco membership because i was like i'm not gonna do it because you know growing up all our parents had it and and you know we're we try and be trendy we're like we don't go to you know or you just make your parents you're like hey when you go can you get this for me yeah yes and i've been holding off i've been holding off but you know now you know i got my girl living with me i got a seven-year-old who's just you know teening up and you know, now, you know, I got my girl living with me. I got a seven year old who's just, you know, teening up and, you know, those bulk items really come through. Also, it's a great

act. Like if you if I take my daughter to Target is a whole thing like you could tell she's bored. She never bored at Costco. She was like, what's that? What's this? What's that? Yeah. So and, you know, the 150 hot dogs, I need to support a man who says he will kill you if you try and raise the price of his $1.50 hot dogs. And and that's that's that's who I want to support in this. Like if he joins the fight, that's who my money's on. He's like, oh, oh, Zuck and Elon trying to throw hands. Let me step in there. I've never taken my kids to Costco.

I've never thought of Costco as a, as a, like they're going to target. They, they think target is cool. So I guess they haven't seen the, the levels that Costco can. Yeah.

Cause, cause target's cool, but like, it's also a trap because once I get down that toy aisle, then it's a wrap for you. But you know, Costco, they really don't have like a dedicated toy space.

The only thing they really kind of go hard on is the books, which is like, yeah, you want to get one of these books? Yeah, get this book. Sit your ass in the room and read something.

Yeah. But, you know, beyond that, there's just so much like big shit, like because, you know, they have, they sell whole ass like playground stuff. So they're just like wowed by it.

Yeah. She hasn't even tasted a sample yet. Oh, man. Remember Fedco? Remember when there was Fedco? Man, that's where I'd go with my grandpa. We would eat for... We was doing the Fedco. We called it the Fedco lunch. You go to Fedco, and you just hit the samples

round and around and around. He'd be like, watch this. He's like, I'm going to get another one. We'd be like, okay, cool. Let's have these little smokies, sausages or some shit over and over but oh for people don't know what if you might be referencing to there is a story that the costco president uh was told like when he the co-founder of costco jim senegal was like i'll fucking kill you if you raise the price on the dollar 50 hot dog they're like these margins don't make sense for us we're we're we're hemorrhaging money here and he was like oh word i how about how about

this he said quote if you raise the price of the fucking hot dog i will kill you that's the direct quote that the current ceo said that was the conversation yeah the founder yeah apparently like it was the person who was told this who who shared this story. And it was like more of a like a joking tone. But I do love the energy of like. But you still you can joke, but you know what you're trying to say. Oh, yeah. Like, yo, I'll fucking kill you, man. finding ways to like cut costs and it was through developing their own hot dogs through that so to do that they then started developing their hot dogs and then selling it in stores mostly made of sawdust at this point yeah oh yeah still that one good though yeah oh yeah i mean it's juicy you know it's the juiciest pieces i I bet Costco, like those stores first blew my mind because I had never seen the sheer amounts of these kinds of foods. Like I would go to the store with my mom or whatever, my dad.

And you're seeing like one box of Fruit Roll-Ups, you know. And then you go to Costco and you're like, what the fuck is this like barrel of them? A nation of Fruit Roll-Ups. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, oh, this. And with like my little greedy kid mind, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want that. Give me the barrel of that shit. Those don't go bad. Yeah. No, yeah. You're like, oh, this. And with like my little greedy kid mind, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want that. Give me the barrel of that shit.

Those don't go bad. Yeah. No, no. And look, we've seen how much they go for in Israel because of TikTok. Yeah. You'll have taquitos for months, for a year. Yeah. They'll be waiting for you.

But that's how I ate when I was 12. I ate Tyson's teriyaki frozen chicken breasts every fucking day of like from 12 to 15. I'm pretty sure. Your protein intake was off the charts. Oh, yeah. And who knows what else? The fucking chemicals was off the charts, too. You did Tyson reformed rib meat patties.

Yeah. That's why the man's built like a brick shithouse. Exactly. And I, yeah. All right. Well, speaking of built like a brick shithouse we will uh take a quick break and come back and talk about mark zuckerberg the brazilian jujitsu master who also people might not remember this but you you first found out about him from the social network and his work on facebook but now famous martial artist and he's got an upcoming fight

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And we're back. We're back. And the GOP, back on their fuckery. What's the latest, Miles? It's not much here, but I just want to mention this because, again, the fuckface wing of the Republican Party, the Freedom Caucus, they were like, this is bullshit. The debt ceiling. We fucking hate this. We need to cut all spending, especially the social safety nets.

But remember, they did make a deal. The Republicans, they did a deal. They figured out. Remember, they said it was going to be real bad for the economy. But if we don't make this deal, the last minute they made the deal and Republicans agreed to fund the government and pay, you know, any outstanding balances, so forth. But guess what? Now they're deciding they can fuck shit up by going after appropriations bills to cut spending. So these are the bills that are essentially that spell out exactly how these budgets are, how the money is spent. So their little fucking, you know, clever logic here is saying like, well, you know, I know we agreed to all these figures in the debt

ceiling bill, you know, and like that. But to us us that was just a cap you know that just means we could go up to that amount there's nothing to say we can't go below that by like 120 billion dollars and that is now the logic that they are parading around in some of these committees which is basically saying like we just agreed to that being like a number the top number and meanwhile like every other sane human being is saying like how is that a fucking deal if you say this is the number we're agreeing to for this debt ceiling and then you renege on that after the fact and be like actually no that just that means that that's that's just like that's just the highest so this is going to be an issue obviously with the democrats and the white house and also the senate uh because they're always the ones who have to like end up seeing these bills and be like, fuck, man, like, what are we what is this? Like, don't they know how to just fucking do the bare minimum? Spoiler alert, they don't. And Senate Republicans aren't even really happy with this. Because even like some of their like, they've somehow awoke from their MAGA coma in the Senate. And you have people like this senator, I don't even I don't even bother to figure out who it was. Let me tell you exactly who it was. Oh, yeah. John Kennedy, who is famously not the

most consistent senator that we have said, quote, If you propose a compromise, you need to tell the truth and tell people exactly what the compromise is. I can tell you that senators are tired of getting the compromise, voting for it or even not voting for it and finding out later that wasn't the truth so so this is him complaining about this like last minute switch room exactly from the freedom caucus freaks who are like this is how we can get this is how we can extract our pound of flesh or whatever and even kevin mccarthy is like yeah i mean i guess that like i get that logic but i had to kind of make a deal with them to keep my gavel. That's really cool. So there's basically.

Yeah. So bringing a bigger and bigger gavel to work every day. Yeah. So try and take this. It's so fucking heavy. But yeah, I get anyway, more more brinkmanship on the way. brinkmanship on the way and systemically this just for some reason this reminded me of like the conversation we were having in our episode where we interviewed you know where we were talking about big sugar in the sugar industry and yeah how there was a nominal episode thank you the yeah

great episode a great podcast by the way everybody should go listen but you know early in the episode celeste was talking about how they early in the season like they win a victory like they sue on behalf of all these sugarcane workers and like get this big settlement for sugarcane workers like 50 million dollars and it's a huge win but then the side that is like capital and private money and private capital just pushes back and just keeps pushing and they have more time and more energy and more weight in our world because they're able to just do it so like even it's just like even a small win like getting them to let the economy keep moving and like having spending for these programs like they there's still a way for them to claw it back there's still a way for them to just make any any victory on behalf of

like social spending and social welfare into a loss because the system is just set up to favor any anything that is going to get in the way of you know social welfare and allow people to like it's just better for them to have a thing where they're just like no we just privatize everything and uh why why are they such cartoon villains i don't know i mean because we're we're at that phase too where we really have people who have no business participating in civics yeah you know at the even most basic level who have basically racist memed their way into congress exactly like that's how they got there yeah and then like okay what do you want to do with these budgets so like huh i don't like joe brandon they're like oh no okay well this is bad how

because there's a lot of people saying oh yeah if we have another government shutdown that won't be that bad um yeah it would be it would be uh but again this is this is the back and forth uh that we're we get to witness firsthand as we welcome new life like a world party of i want to die alone yeah truly yeah it's like the same mentality i don't care i want to die alone let me die alone yeah well speaking of racists uh one of them has taken molly and realized that they were racist and that being racist sucks white supremacy bad what what are you trying to tell me that the villainized drug of the 70s that that was the smoke screen to cover up the korean war it actually turns out to be good uh it might just might but don't hold your breath now but even around in the 70s.

I mean, I knew it was like first running out as a party drug in Dallas, but isn't Molly? Molly is like the... Is Molly... Is MDMA... I thought it was like the same cooking... We shouldn't use the street term for ecstasy. Okay, yeah.

MDMA. Let's be a little scientific here. I say Molly because, you know, I'm out here in the streets. Yeah. But it's it's MDMA. It is being treated as a psychedelic that is like being researched heavily, not as a thing that you just like give out to session, you are given it and then there is like a guided therapy session in which the kind of, you know, effects of the MDMA help you come to terms with different parts of your emotional like scaffolding and like how you've been built and how you've built yourself kind of accidentally and haphazardly in the dark of your unconscious, like you now have access to that stuff. And whereas like during normal therapy, you're just talking to a person and it can be difficult or take time. I guess it's like the thing that you hear a lot is that it's

just a shortcut to like get into a lot of these issues that people need to be able to address. And that takes a lot of time and a lot of like breaking down barriers to get into a lot of these issues that people need to be able to address and that takes a lot of time and a lot of breaking down barriers to get to. The best analogy I heard for it was that because MDMA, it fills your receptors with love drugs, right? It's like a love drug. People explain that it's sort of like

when you're wanting to dive into trauma, just raw like that with a therapist one on one. It's kind of like pouring an empty pitcher. Right. And trying to drink from that cup. Right. Versus with MDMA, then you're actually sort of filling the pitcher with water. You're filling your receptors with good feeling and then tackling the trauma. Right. And I have a few friends that it was absolutely life changing

for. Yeah, it's I mean, we see the research constantly how it's helped, especially with people like with PTSD and soldiers with stress and like trauma as it relates to like racial abuse and shit like that. It's like all we see are positives here. Yeah. There's a psychedelic science conference happening in Denver this week, actually. And there's just so much learning. And so it's a very exciting time for people who are in medicine and kind of interested in using these tools. The research that's coming through is that it's a very powerful tool. Yeah.

And a great documentary by Michael Pollan. Yeah. On Netflix, during which I was narrowly missing my husband's balls. Oh, so not the most engaging. You got a little bored there. Some parts I was like, I get it. I get it. I get it.

I get it. All right. Ball smash time. I narrowly miss. I mean, narrowly miss, narrowly miss, narrowly smashing them. But this story is from comes out of a recent study in the unit from the University of Chicago, where researchers were looking at how MDMA was like enhancing the pleasantness of certain types of physical touch. And one participant stuck out to the researchers. There is named Brendan, because at the end of the trial, this guy, Brendan filled out the final questionnaire. And at the bottom of the form,

when they're talking about like, how do you feel going like after this whole experience wrote, quote, this experience has helped me sort out a debilitating personal issue. Google, Google my name. I now know what I need to do. When they looked at that, they said, holy, wait, what the fuck does this person mean by I now know what I need to do. When they looked at that, they said, holy, wait, what the fuck does this person mean by I now know what I need to do? Like, go talk to them right now. That phrase is scary as fuck. Yeah, because they also Googled they Googled his name and found out that like, like about a year or two prior to this study, he was doxed by like Antifa, like researchers who are basically trying to put out all these names of prominent Nazis and white supremacists in the US. And he was one of them. He led a very prominent group in the Midwest. So they were like, what the fuck when they asked him, they're like, yo, so what's his plan?

White supremacist guy now that you've had some like MDMA, he said, quote, just realize love is the most important thing. Quote, I felt in that moment that all of my priorities in my life were just so messed up the way I was interacting with people, particularly people who are close to me. But there was also an almost euphoric feeling, a feeling of love. And I concluded that was the sort of feeling that I should strive to permeate across the world. So they're like, oh, okay. His background was, you know, in high school, he leaned liberal liberal but then he got to college joined a frat of like affluent white guys that were conservative and then that being around those people slowly sent him down like that radicalization rabbit hole of like hey you should read this book hey you should

check this podcast out hey you should check out what they're saying on fox and next thing you know he's leading a you know he's in fucking charottesville, like with a tiki torch. Wow. Like leading people. Yeah. So now this isn't to say like MDMA is a cure all because this guy was in a period of like serious self-reflection after being like outed, losing his job. And like there's like relationships, like close relationships began to fall apart. relationships, like close relationships began to fall apart. But he said that really had him in a state where he was trying to figure out what was going wrong. Since up to that point, he thought

he was on like a good trajectory with all this nonsense. And many experts like agree. They're like, yeah, intention is the key here. When using psychedelics. It's not like you can just airdrop a bunch of MDMA on the state of Florida. And then like, we're gonna move on, right? Like, yeah, I have the intention to at least be open to looking at your own life and be in a period of self-reflection. Because again, this isn't some magic racism eraser. And he also feels it's also not a pill that you take and have this insight. Again, it is part of a like total program of therapy where you're working with a therapist who knows you and has a sense of like where you're at. And it's, I feel like there's just going to be a tendency for Americans to be like, all right, so I take this thing and like things are good again. It's like, I take it like Tylenol and we're good. No, it's actually part of working on yourself, which is uncomfortable. This just makes it, gives you an ability to do

uncomfortable work a little bit more freely. Yeah, exactly. And there's like, you know, one of the researchers that were spoken to for this article from UCLA was just saying like, you know, all psychedelics have the potential to help people get in touch with new perspectives for other radicalized individuals. She says a drug like ayahuasca could be useful because it's like taking sort of a good hard look at yourself in the mirror she goes on to say that's why ayahuasca kind of has a reputation of doing to people kind of showing them maybe where they screwed up and how they got there in a compassionate way like which is also important. There's all kinds of studies of doing this on cops with PTSD that have been highly successful. It's like more prevalently used in the UK.

There's lots of research studies on it there. Right here. It was like it became demonized, like Nixon demonized it all. And it became part of the like smoke screen. Yeah. Look at LSD. Look at all the, you know that's the problem not yeah not creeping inequality or that kind of shit no no yeah it kind of blew my mind that the

guy who invented the pcr study found it during an uh during an lsd trip what's the pcr study like you know pcrs like the molecular tubing what is it uh that you do for covid you take like a pcr test yeah polymerase chain reaction yes oh god yeah yeah yeah he visualized it in an lsd trip oh because that's how you visualize dna samples right that's like the whole yeah francis crick actually the guy who discovered they couldn't figure out the structure of the DNA double helix. And he had the insight of the double helix shape while tripping on LSD. And also after reading a bunch of research by a woman who had already figured it out. And he just, I guess, he got a lot of credit. Trifecta. Yeah. Yeah.

But I think, again, like, it's interesting to hear this guy, Brendan, talk about it, too, because he's all saying, like, this isn't going to solve our society. It's not like this is a cure-all, but it is clear it helps people. He goes on to say, quote, a lot of these guys who end up in these movements have a history of doing MDMA. Yeah. He's like, but you have to have the right framing and mindset because that's the only way you can be somewhat open to reconsidering your own ideologies. He

said, quote, it helped me see things in a different way that no amount of therapy or anti-racist literature ever would have done. And he still says he struggles with like these beliefs that he has, but he's completely like has been able to sort of step outside of this like white supremacist ideology like oh this doesn't serve me at all or what i want like my life to be so it's it's it's a very like interesting story i know a lot of people like the shorthand would be like all right mdma for like everybody that that's the thing uh but we what we it's a it's a combination of things that really help people. But the version that he did is a clinical like, you know, under under medical supervision. And that stuff is much harder to do in the United States than in other're willing to just accept what a powerful tool it can be for therapists.

But I don't know. I say I'm kind of on the side of everybody. Let's try it. Because right now, a lot of people are doing that with Adderall. Right. And treating it like the drug that's going to fix all my behavioral shit. And I see it all the time. And there's so much else that Adderall does, too, that is so detrimental.

Totally. And by the way, the myth of the Swiss cheese brain is actually an Adderall side effect. Not an LSD, MDMA, psychedelics side effect. Yeah, right. That was like a whole propaganda train back in the 80s and 90s. So for the way that we Americans do stuff, I'm just like, I don't know, maybe more of us should just be smoking pot and doing MDMA. Oh, yeah.

It should be less stigmatized and doing MDMA. Oh, yeah. It should be it should be less stigmatized and less illegal. For sure. I'm just saying if you're gonna pick if you're gonna polarize. Yeah. Rather than going the route of like cocaine and Adderall and coffee. Right. But those help you those help you do work. Those help you do work. Look at all these phenomenal scientists that got shit done on LSD. Right. That's how it works. But pipe down about that because then we might not have need for other pharmaceuticals.

My bad. My bad. My bad. But yeah, totally. You can see the values of our society based on what drugs are illegal versus illegal. Yeah. I'm just saying that the legalization and the stigma makes it much harder for therapists. Like, therapists are afraid of losing their license.

Oh, yeah. It's very few people that get access to this type of therapy and this type of, like, official, sanctioned, like, well-designed therapy work that this person had had access to so yeah it just it needs to be destigmatized across the board and made more uh less illegal and just like thinking right about like the unpacking your trauma right because so many of us we go through shit and we just lock it up we leave it in the back of our minds and then wonder why it permeates like it ends up festering and affects other dimensions of our relationships and personalize have nothing to do with even that specific event that happened. And the power of being able to examine that is a huge part of having any kind of growth because most growth is not happening

because we don't have the ability or the openness to reflect on these things we've been through because it's so deeply uncomfortable. And it kind kind of reminded me there's like this recent clip i hate to bring up tucker carlson but he was on megan kelly's show and the way he talks about his mother's death you're like this is exactly what the fuck like goes on with people right like i'm just gonna play this because he's so casual about this and i don't like i understand like there's a lot to do with like his own abandonment issues with his mother etc etc but hearing someone talk like this you're like man this motherfucker could use some molly but anyway this is just like hear him talk just about his mother um but you know our mom was not a fan of us and was pretty direct about it and you know

that's obviously hurts when you're little but then i realized you can't control it you know you just can't control it and your mother doesn't like you okay boohoo you know it sounds really terrible and the day it actually happened when i got this call like she's dying and in in this weird little town and set on a farm that she lived on in southwestern france and and she was basically french at this point spent her life there, you should go visit her. And so I call my brother, and he's like, what? No. You know, my son's got a soccer game. And I said, I feel the same way. I don't know this person. And actually, this sounds cold or whatever, but I had already kind of made my peace with this over many decades, over 35 years. And I didn't fall apart at all. I went out to dinner. I mean, I felt sad for her,

I guess. I don't know much about her. She was an artist. She had shows. Okay. I guess. And, and all that, but she wasn't part of my life. I wasn't part of hers. And yeah, this explains so much. I didn't fall apart. I just built myself brick by brick into a horrifying month's cross toxic masculinity. It's so wild. I didn't fall apart, though. I didn't fucking hear. I'm here. I created a whole set made of wood, and I

screamed from it. Also, did Tucker Carlson just say he's an immigrant? Is he French? No, no, he's talking about how his mom immigrated to France. And he's basically saying, she's basically French because she left his mom expatted his mom's a hippie who left them at a very young age to like go hippie it up and everything yeah at six his mom was like you kind of suck and that's he he has that well the other thing too is he's i think he's also referencing

the fact that later in life, his mother hated his politics. And famously, like it was after she passed away. Right. She was also an heiress. She had a lot of money. Wow. And when she passed. No, no, no.

Swanson is who was his father remarried. Yeah. But when his mother passed, her estate was sort of it was sort of contentious where the money was going. And him and his brother fought her husband over the money, despite him being like, I don't care about her. I've moved on him and his brother. They had a long protracted legal battle over her estate. And what happened was later on, they found her will in a book that she had handwritten. And she had only left her Tucker and his brother one dollar each.

Oh, so they1 each. Oh. So they got something. Burn! But still, you can tell all of this pain swirling around. Clearly, they had a contentious relationship, but he was also like, I need that fucking money, too. That's the only thing that actually matters, right? You know who else talks about their mom like that? Bob Durst.

Oh, yeah? Bro, Robert Durst? Yep. You said Bob. That was so casual. I was like, hold on. You're kicking it with Bob? Right.

I mean, I did watch that whole documentary. Just burping up, yeah, after having memories of my mother. But yeah, I mean, like, again, these are, you just sort of see examples all the time. And I'm not trying to lay everything like, you know, that a lot of sociopaths and psychopaths will cite their relationship with their mom as the reason for their behavior.

Yeah, I mean, it surely has to do with his like, very, you know, misogynistic worldview. Yeah, because they don't understand empathy. But they are clued into pity. yeah because they don't understand empathy but they are clued into pity right and so they look that's one of the like formative ways that they look to access sympathy well look he wasn't really bummed out by it at all he went to dinner okay next question next question moving on i also think it's funny that he like it's it's almost an insult to his six-year-old self how he responds to it you know what i mean is like you now you're going to like tell your six-year-old self that like you didn't dissociate you just weren't bummed out by it at all you know it didn't bother me uh it did it did there's no way it didn't but again hey we get it

that's where you were forged in like the fires the fires of, like, a Marvel villain. Truly, like, it would be too on the nose for a Marvel villain. Like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would just be like, all right, that's a little pet. His hippie mom left him and then, like... He hates all hippies. Didn't leave him any money.

And he, like, went on TV and was like, my mom didn't like me and I'm fine with that. Well, like, you know, just like fucking steamrolling over like just a lifetime of pain. I'm fine with that. I didn't fall apart. Oh, I'm together. Okay. Rock solid. All right. Anyways. All right.

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And credits for Marvel's new show, which don't know has that has anybody seen it the i saw the credits the alien invasion one ai uh secret invasion secret invasion yes so just premiered and it's got a credit sequence created by quote an ai vendor which is not that shocking because it kind of looks like shit oh yeah it looks like all that terrible ai art that like animated ai art it has this like look that's just like not just it's shitty it's just really fucking bad yeah yeah have any of you seen the full the full credit sequence no i i actually have not i just watched it it's so it's like really unbelievable that a company that has like a background in animation and then a brand that's like rooted in comic books goes for some of the most uninspiring

animatics i've ever seen like truly like they're not even it's not even like yo this is actually wild it's just like this looks like amateur hour kind of stuff and i guess only unless you're like wowed by the idea that it's ai that maybe you look at it differently but objectively you look at you're like is this like the bootleg version of this show right yeah yeah so the executive producer ali salim said that he thought the ai credits felt explorative and inevitable and exciting and different oh although he doesn't really understand how it all works but i like the inevitable and i don't know how it works i don't know how do you i don't know man yeah but the the don't know how to, I don't, I don't know, man. Yeah. But the,

the fact like saying it's explorative and inevitable to kind of give away the game. It's just like, yeah, this is, it's progress. Just feast your eyes on this. All right.

So we're watching miles is showing us the clip. Yeah. This, this looks like every AI tick tock. Yeah, exactly. You know, it's not like, it's funny that they're like explorative.

It's like, in what way? In the way that everyone who has access to a cell phone has been doing this? Like you, like, you know, like it is just it's weird to see how many people are just trying so hard to push this agenda that that AI is the future and this, that and the third. And and we need to go. We need to just get on board because it's just proving the longer it goes on that it just isn't there. And everyone, you know, everyone keeps trying to, like, keep it relevant, yet, until it learns, until it learns. And it's like, yeah, no, that's going to be stopped.

I mean, you already have Drake suing over the AI music. I don't see AI in legal terms making it much farther because it is. It is just derivative of established copywritten stuff and is just kind of mishmashing enough stuff together to say it's a new thing. And at a certain point, people are just going to be like, okay, cool. Then you need to show the data in what your, you know, computer learning used to get that. And you need to pay me if my name is there. And then AI's gone overnight. Right. I mean, the company behind the sequence released a statement being like, the AI was merely a tool used by these artists

whose name we didn't list. And then, I guess in the actual credits, you can see the people's names. But like, one of them seems to be made up. Like, the AI technical director is credited in the show as sagan's carl which people are like is that are you just reworking carl sagan's name because that name has no internet presence other than this one credit yeah yeah i'm i'm really curious like and is that

then you're like oh so you actually did credit the ai right like are you just doing that sort of like tongue in cheeks you'd be like and then sagan's carl the homie that came up with this real lukewarm fucking uninspiring opening it's gonna it's gonna be uh i don't know i mean like i i can see you see a lot of people who hear ai and they just get excited but like to like it sounds like this producer is like one of these people just uncritically being like, yeah, man, it's like,

I hear like, it's like all over the place. So we figured this would be like a cool way to step in. I don't know how it works. I don't know if that's like worth replacing, like actual human beings who are artists who could provide something that is like miles ahead of this, but I don't know if that'd be cool.

Plus also look, let's be real. The budgets got scrapped, and we had to use an AI, the cheapest way to get it done, which is probably I don't know, to me, that's what it sounds. The reason you would do something like this is to save money. Yeah, I mean, that's the whole, like, when you look at the, we are not like, if you listen to this show, like you, you're probably not getting the impression like everyone's super excited about AI. But like the stock market, like the the markets are so excited about AI. Like that's driving like all the growth on the stock market in the past like year or so is like how excited people are about AI. excited people are about AI. So you just really get a sense from like, you know, this executive producer who he's listening to is people who are on the money side and are just like, we can make

all this work disappear. And that is so exciting. Hey, Mark, Mark, show him that show him that one opening you asked the AI to make for the for a Hulk show we just made up. Look at that. A computer just did that i just typed a word in yeah so i'm telling you this is the future man it's the future and that thing that's like i also hear a lot of people too like i get from friends who work in the non-profit space like how much chat gpt has helped them with grant writing and i could see how like for something like that it may feel like this really mundane process that you can just kind of now free some mental bandwidth up. But as I hear more about like people using it for

writing and things too, like, I'm just not sure we are going to be able to adjust what like a curriculum needs to look like in a world filled with AI that is like, is actually at the same pace that the AI develops. Because I feel like the worst case scenario is like, we embrace all this and people have just lost the ability to think. Cause it's like just easy to be like, I don't know. I type my desires into this blank box and then something appears. Yeah. All right.

Well, we'll, we'll see if this Sagans Carl turns out to just have a, an amazing career in that. Yeah, yeah. He's just some guy who doesn't sleep at night. Did they hire that? Did they use the AI to concoct the lie for them?

Right. Was that the end of it? No, no, no. We had artists. This one we just made up. I mean, that would also be wilder. It's like, but I am Sagans Carl. Yeah.

That is my name being yeah we'll see i can't open the door help me you guys arizona tea uh fans i only drink one i'm like loyal and which one you want mucho mango mucho mango i fuck with that watermelon and i remember when that energy rx dropped and i thought i was on some new new i was like oh this is gonna be what i need to do these uh long nights yeah i think i in the very beginning i was like i remember the peach one blew my mind and then i was on the ginseng green tea one for a while because I think just the colors were like very vapor wavy for me, like in the late 90s. Oh, yeah. But now whenever I, if ever I deign to grab a can of Arizona, it's mucho mango.

I don't know. I think it's the most chemically. Yeah. It's, it feels like thick, right? Mucho mango? Like it's not. I mean, like you mean like the flavor. No, no. It's like a juice. Basically, it's not it i mean like you mean like the it's not no no it's like a juice

basically it's pure whatever pure unhealth so these these are this is ranking the tea flavors one of them is like part mucho mango but oh yeah i've had that one yeah yeah half and half ice tea and mango is their lowest ranked on this list of taste. They're actually given that an Arnold Palmer half and half the like, which is, I have to say just based on seeing the iconic can many different places like those have to be a couple of their most popular, right?

Those are, those are getting the lowest marks. And then, you know, up top top you got your like number five is iced tea with lemon flavor which is that's the high who's no that's number five that's no okay the the green tea with ginseng and honey is number three but that and that's like one of the more iconic cans with like the cherry blossom yeah dude that shit has like there were so many i feel like reebok did a shoe based on that can like that can is like it's basically the new aesthetic it's like the solo fucking jazz cups yeah you know it's like the arizona iced tea can

vibe but the the whole thing like this i we this article came out right in the aftermath of the sugar episode we did earlier. And I was just like, OK, so what are we looking at for total sugar? Like one of the Arnold Palmer, they're like, it just tastes like watered down and like kind of sucks compared to the one with just lemon flavor. And like that one had the big one, the one that they like that's in the top five has 59 grams of sugar, which like the daily allotments 24, whereas the Arnold Palmer only has 44. my actual health needs to be and what is healthy yeah i'm always fucking horrified looking at labels because them also the amount of salt and shit yeah i'm i can't fucking believe sometimes i'm like what the fuck i'm getting 40 of my salt from this like one thing oh fuck that uh but i like it's and i think what it is it's so super freaky to me because I think on some level, right, I have this like childish idea that, well, they sell it in the stores because it's like it can't be that bad for you. Otherwise, they couldn't sell it.

But that's not how any of this shit works. Like, it's about making money. And then you put yourself in that, like in these situations and you're like, wow, this is really it's almost like you have to work harder and you have to pay even more money if you want to avoid eating. Like, you know, having to consume like massive amounts of any of these ingredients that we're just inundated with. Yeah, absolutely. The number one they gave to black and white iced tea, which is one of the least sugary on it. It's like 14 grams. So you still have sugar left for the day. OK, so you you still have 10 grams of sugar left for the day okay so

you got a half of a fuck your sugar okay yeah again i have such like weed dealer brain i'm like how many grams yeah oh yeah yeah i'm like oh that doesn't look that bad and then you think about it in a ziploc bag and you're like oh shit that's in one can yeah if i'm guessing this is not none of these are drinks that you use as pre-workout. No, no, I don't. But, you know, some, you know, when I was going to Barbell, you know, we got like some power lifters and, you know, to get energy mid-workout, you want like this, like a rush of sugar and carbs. So they would just eat gummy worms. Now I'm about to be like, hey, maybe y'all need to bust out. Wait, people are eating gum. Wait, hold on.

You got to put me on because I don't I don't. The only gym I've been near is I don't even know. Jim Marie, the children's clothing store. Yeah. Yeah. You know, because, you know, when you're gassed out and you're kind of like you need a little more kind of like sugar uh and and like carbs to kind of like get some more energy they'll they'll crank a gummy gummy worm bust that out i'd be too worried that people would compare them to my legs and arms hey fella look at that what are you eating

your legs there buddy these are gummy worms. Yeah, yeah. Bodybuilders prefer gummy bears because they are sweetened with ingredients like dextrose and corn syrup, both of which are fast-absorbing carbohydrates because these ingredients don't have to be broken down through the digestive process. They are quickly absorbed into the blood and utilized by the muscles.

If he wasn't just reading, by the way, his eyes just rolled back in his head and that all just came out of his brain. Yeah, yeah, my neck got extra veiny. He wasn't just reading, by the way. His eyes just rolled back in his head. That all just came out of his brain. My neck got extra veiny. He just warged into the mind of a health fitness expert. That's the kind of shit I would hear when I'm 17 and be like, oh yeah, gummy bears is a fucking workout food.

That's why I eat them every day and don't work out. Just because I read this one thing that it's a bodybuilder's secret. Yeah. Oh, shit. Well, now you're going to see, hopefully see Arizona iced tea cans. Yeah, yeah. I'm near you. Just pop that off with almond sugar. All right.

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