The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 284 (Best of 7/24/23-7/28/23)

Episode Date: July 30, 2023

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. All right, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined by a brilliant poet, political activist, academic emcee, and podcast host of the must-listen Hood Politics with Prop on Cool Zone. It's the brilliant, the talented Jason Petty aka Propaganda! What up, y'all? I might as well

continue the tradition here. Propaganda, aka only when I get an email from Anna. I'm on the Daily Zyguys. My name is Prop. I host hood politics with me.

I sell cold brew coffee that's prop a courtesy of me you know i'm saying that was a hard joint right there man i was like listen i keep them in the holster like yeah true mc yeah how many you ever like how many writtens do you ever, like, if I'm sure, you know, you go to freestyle battles and stuff How many writtens would you have in your back pocket? Man I mean, I come from the age where you're not Supposed to have writtens in your back pocket You know what I'm saying? But

But, you get, like You'll, it's more like you have, like A grab bag of, like Four bar, eight bar Something to finish off things in there just yeah if you get lost you can pull something out of there right right but yeah but like a full verse someone's gonna catch you yeah you know and then then you can never come back yeah yeah i remember being like really disappointed when i used to think like mixtape freestyles were actual freestyles

like it back in the day i'm like no they're workshopping like other material that's gonna end up on a track and for the real heads, that was on that. That was on that. I heard that line. Yeah. That was that Green Lantern mixtape. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

They were workshopping it. That kind of that kind of goes to like what we're going to talk about later on. Yeah. That attitude. Yeah. Talk about that when we get there. For sure. For sure.

All right. Well, what we are talking about today is hip hop. It is the 50th anniversary. We're going to just talk general thoughts on. Yeah. How'd it go? 50 years in. Yeah.

So. So what do we think? We just listened to some hip hop and we're all getting back together. What do we think? What is something from your search history? Well, it's pretty dark. Are you ready? Yeah, let's go. Okay. Yeah. It's not even noon yet. Let's go. Let me just think about that JK Rowling joke real quick. Okay. I'm ready. Get to a good place so I can bring you down. Yeah. So my last week in news, I tried to pitch this story that we never were able to do because

we didn't get a call back. But I was living and working in Baltimore at the time. And the like beloved giraffe at the zoo died. And I wanted to know what they do with zoo animals when they die. Like, do they have a giraffe funeral? Do they bury them? Is there a giraffe graveyard? Like what happens to them?

And we never got a call back. And it's been bothering me for years. So very recently I Googled it. And apparently they all get cremated, but not for reasons that you might think. They get cremated so that people can't sell their body parts like on the black market. Oh, right. And get like a giraffe skeleton. You're like, nobody's getting this skelly.

Right. If we can't have it, you can't either. Wow. That is so selfish. I want to buy a giraffe skeleton. No, I'm just kidding. You must have very tall ceilings in your apartment. Do they have horns?

What's the shit on the top of their head? Yeah, some of them have like those little guys. Antennas for Wi-Fi. Oh, yeah. 5G. Yeah, yeah. 5G. Yeah, yeah. Those aren't because they have ears and them like nubs too, right? Mm-hmm.

Okay. That's my stupid question that I want to contribute to this discussion about giraffe anatomy. Giraffe head knobs. We'll see what comes up. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Yeah. Oh, okay. And where can I buy them?

Baltimore Zoo. yep, yep. Yeah. Oh, okay. And where can I buy them? Baltimore Zoo. Yeah, exactly. Google giraffe ossicones for sale. So wait, did you Google the shopping tab of Google or did you get image results? Actually on Facebook Marketplace. They're very friendly to the black market. Right. Wait, so at the time when you were covering that story, did the giraffe just kind of pass

away due to natural causes? It wasn't like a dubious or suspicious death, was it? Yeah, fentanyl is really infiltrating the zoo. Yeah. No, I think he just died of natural causes. Actually, okay, wait, on that same subject, do you guys know this like famous hippo Fiona is like at, I think, Cincinnati Zoo? I am not, no. I'm not familiar. Okay. Yes I think, Cincinnati Zoo. I am not. No, I'm not familiar.

Okay. Yes. Okay, go on. Hippo content is huge on the internet. Fiona is a celeb. And apparently, like, that's the same zoo that Harambe was shot at. So they've just done this whole rebrand with this hippo. And I'm like, no, you can't, like, get away from your dark past.

Ooh, yeah. Wow. Wow. Cincinnati. So are they just like cranking out stars at the Cincinnati Zoo or something? Apparently they got a really good PR team. Yeah, yeah. For real. When I Google Cincinnati Zoo hippo, I see that they're mourning the loss of Henry the hippo.

Back in 2017. Oh, 2017. Okay. Well, they probably killed him. Father of famous Fiona. Oh, Fiona's father. Oh, you hate to see it. You hate to see it.

They're kind of setting us up for disaster because hippos are, you know, they will kill a motherfucker. Like, real. They're very deadly in the right circumstances. So that was like my one little kid like annoying factoid i would say like hippos are actually the most dangerous like if like to humans it's not this or that but yeah it's what they do it's what they do besides mosquitoes that's my kid's favorite fact right now you know the deadliest animal is mosquitoes because you're going very narrow for like blood-borne illnesses yeah okay which fucks my younger kid up because he gets a lot

of mosquito bites he's got that sweet sweet blood that the mosquitoes crave yeah yeah so nothing you can do sitting in bed waiting for mosquitoes to come and bite you to death he doesn't like he doesn't fuck with him be like oh you know like you could get you know what sitting in bed waiting for mosquitoes to come and bite you to death. He doesn't fuck with them and be like, you know what you could get from that mosquito. I think he does when we're not around. Would be my guess.

The fact that my youngest's hair has turned completely white. His second word was Zika. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. What's something that you think is overrated? DIY projects. Do you ever watch those YouTube videos and it's like the guy does doing backyard work and he's like, I'm just going to level the sand out with a couple of PVC pipes. And so I form that I'm just going to wrap it up for the day and then come back in.

They never show you what happens afterward. They didn't show you like the couples therapy that that man had to go into after he ignored his wife for two days. And so my wife looks at these and we tried to do a backyard project and it's not the same. I looked at these, it looks so easy. All of a sudden it's like 105 degrees. I'm holding like a 50 pound two by two concrete paver. And I'm like, I don't know how to level this sand this was a total mistake she's pregnant she doesn't she can't hey she literally can't help and so she's just trying to tell me what to do i was like you don't know how hard this is you're trying carrying something

heavy around for a long period of time i have no idea what this is like and then cut to we're like yelling at our couples therapist like you don't even know what's going on in this backyard. It's like it almost ruined us. Just this one tiny backyard project. I was like, these DIY videos are all scams. They don't show you the editing. They don't show you anything else that happens. How many takes did he have

to do to get that level sand? I don't know. They also don't show the decades of work and repetitions these people put in to make it look so fucking easy. Like, well, that guy just did it in one thing. It's like, but he's doing all these computations as he does it that he's not even describing in the video. Because I feel like all the time, like, oh, this would be easy if I, like, had actual carpentry skills. It's not just like a master apprentice of some kind.

You know, I didn't know any of this stuff. I mean, I went to law school. I can write. I can pinch zoom on a touch screen. I can do that very well. I mean, that's one of some kind. I didn't know any of this stuff. I went to law school. I can write. I can pinch Zoom on a touch screen. I can do that very well. I mean, that's a max out. We were told one of the best. Can we see that index and thumb attack? Look at that.

Wow. Dramatic. You're not going to see a snap like that anyway. That's the hand you used. He just snapped on that Zoom screen. Yeah, man. Every DIY project, every cooking thing takes me three times as much as the time estimate.

Like, I don't know what's wrong with me, but I am just so slow. I have to, like, watch it, watch it again. I'm old, I think, is possibly what it is. But even, like, I have a bolognese recipe that is I'm pretty good at. I've been making it since, you know, I was in my early 20s and it doesn't get any faster. It's just three hours. All right. This is what we're doing all afternoon. Just don't come in the kitchen because I'm going to be in there being very slow. I also like listen to like I don't I don't ever want to focus on the DIY

product I'm doing. You know, I want to like listen to a book. I want to say, you know, like catch up on some emails that I'm probably the problem, right? The information age has given us this false sense of, yes, the information is out there and that means you can achieve whatever it's kind of conveying to you. And that's not that's not true. Like you shouldn't be doing these things like I can't do a wall installment of a cabinetry thing just because they did like an eight minute YouTube video about it. No, don't do that. Why should I do that? It's not the right thing for me to do.

What is something that you think is underrated? Okay, here we go. Oh, speaking of here we go. Wow, we got a baby. The Geist Child cometh. How old is that baby? Oh, he's about to be six months. Oh, so cute.

Yeah. Hey, buddy. What's up,'s up man hi look at those cheeks look at this baby oh my god what i mean truly the most beautiful baby he's like a pixar little baby he is like a little pixar baby he has like big, like goofy animated eyes. Just beautiful, wide open, attentive eyes. Okay, you be quiet. Here, take that. Take that.

Take that. What is something you think is underrated? A nice cold glass of water. So we've had room temp recently. Yeah, someone said room temp recently. Underrated. That's ice in my water. Yeah. Give me cold water.

I think a cold... Nothing hits like cold water. Yeah. On a hot day. Truly. I think it's just easier to... For whatever reason, it's easier to drink. I'm like more motivated to go...

Have you guys seen those women on like TikTok who drink flavored water? Yes. Have you seen this, Jack? Yeah. how they all make insane like flavor water combos yeah and they're like like improving water with these like water hacks where they basically just like mix a bunch of crystal light into water yeah yeah i find it you're drinking you're drinking diluted crystal light or like Neo or other people use like fucking like barista syrup pumps and shit. Oh, God. I just can't relate to people that are like, oh, I don't really like water. I need water to like taste different.

It's like, what are you talking about? Well, I have found that the Crystal Light flavoring helps cover up some of the gamey aftertaste that you get from raw water. You know? Oh yeah, when you're drinking your raw water. When you're drinking your raw water and it kind of tastes like sewage because it's like just from a pond somewhere that they scooped it

out of, it does help to have a little Crystal Light. No, no, that's nutrients, Jack. Those are the nutrients that go in your body. That's just soup, folk. They just get nutrients that go in your body. That's just soup, folk. They just get the midichlorians out. That's right. There's also like the raw milk people now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Raw milk people have been replaced by raw water people. Even better, even better. People wasting insane amounts of money. I do feel like we've seen some improvements in, like we were talking sunscreen applications we've got we've got a bunch of stick-based sunscreen applications for my kids roll on and like something that is like a deodorant stick that just makes my life a hundred times easier and there's also the powder thing that like you powder yeah there's like a powder i mean it's mainly my wife uses it but sometimes we'll just like just shake some dust on the uh on the kiddos before they go out

you know shit all right that's what i always say ever since i learned that hippos make their own sunscreen by sweating yeah why can't we do that wouldn't that make so much sense if our sweat was sunscreen yeah yeah yeah yeah modify us so that hippos also hippos they sweat red it looks like blood that's just a little sunscreen oh wow good i want that yeah and i like the way their their tails just launch a bunch of shit everywhere yeah yeah that was my favorite text yeah hippos are the coolest anyone who just gets to like hang out in the water all day like they're in palm springs just shitting on themselves sweating sunscreen it's the life just like people on vacation but you know what those people pay for it and these hippos get to do it for free exactly they're the kings of the jungle or they're just in captivity yeah exactly

you'll pay for it with your life yeah if i see a hippo in my pool yeah wiggling its ears or whatever you're good with that i'm gonna kiss it oh well i wouldn't do that i wouldn't do the kissing because they uh the other thing i like about hippos is that they will bite a human in half look look that's what most people that's what they do to like a normal person but they can tell i'm cool right right right they respect you because you're not a hippo whisperer yeah i'm not a hater i'm like them i get y'all okay i get you i'm like one of you i'm like that grizzly man but for hip i'm the hippo lady. Yeah. I just want a little kiss. You just have to say, I can't wait for that documentary to come out about you and the hippos and your last journey to hang out with the hippos like Grizzly Man.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's sad that I died kissing a hippo, but I had to be me. Werner Herzog presents Hippo Girl. Werner Herzog presents Hippo Girl as she went to Africa for one last time she wanted to feel the embrace of the hippo

only for it to become hate I just want to do that so that when I die Werner Herzog will listen to the tape of my death and be like nobody should hear this yeah the Grizzlies really took their time with that, dude. I feel like the hippo tape

would be very... He'd, like, put the headphones in and then be like, and take them off. He's like, oh, you can hear her get bitten in half. You can hear the bones.

Oh, you can hear the exact sound when she's... her snaps in half. Yeah. It's like when you go to a sushi restaurant and you pull the chopsticks apart. And she's weirdly saying,

Whee! She seems to be fucking enjoying it. I guess the way, Jack, you would respond if you were just devoured by a great white. Yeah. Whee! Yes! Yeah.

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One of the We Build the Wall fundraising campaign hucksters just received the highest sentence yet for the scheme. He's going to spend over five years in jail. This is Timothy Shea of Castle Rock, Colorado, which makes him one of the most notorious Castle Rock residents not created by Stephen King. previously pled guilty and received three years and four years steve bannon meanwhile pled not guilty and is awaiting trial so that warms my heart a little bit to imagine him reading this headline today yeah like oh fuck fuck fuck he went down to him yeah yeah i mean it's uh i shouldn't be a surprise considering that this was such a clear fucking scam from the beginning yeah but i'm again surprised that this ended up with people having to answer for their crimes yeah pleasantly surprised by that he pocketed approximately 180 000 and was you know it was a scheme to defraud hundreds of thousands of donors. So small donations from people who couldn't afford it.

And he was just like, yoink, yes, thank you. He also helped launder the money through various shell companies. So he knew what he was doing and did it badly. So congratulations to him. Is this one of the fraudsters you're covering? You guys cover? We covered a little bit of this in between the seasons. We do these like fraud wires, which are like news stories that come similar to this.

We did it when it kind of like the earlier criminal complaints came down for this story. And I love it because it relates to a lot of other things that we've covered. We actually did last season. We started with campaign fraudsters and Trump was one of them. And one of the things that I think. Wait, Donald? I know. I know. Do we need a pregnant pause on the show? Just a moment. Yeah, let me just go listen to that. That's a baseless accusation.

Do we need a disclaimer? I don't want to get you guys in legal trouble here. Yeah. But the thing is, you know, I think the corporate media has done a disservice to us to a certain extent because they've chased everything, but they kind of don't talk about the boring stuff that's actually illegal. And so this is a great example of this was a slam dunk from the beginning. You invited people to donate to something that was supposed to be a nonprofit and all this stuff, and then they didn't even try to hide it. They funneled this money out to a for profit enterprise within seconds. It was like someone was hitting the mouse immediately as the donations were coming in just to get them out of the account. There was another great example of Donald Trump during the Herschel Walker, Raphael Warnock runoff.

Yeah. And Trump would send out these emails to raise money for Herschel Walker. Right. You'd be subscribed to the Trump campaign. You get an email, raise money for Herschel Walker. Let's do it. And so you'd click like donate to Herschel Walker. You go to a page. You would talk about Trump. It would talk about Herschel Walker and say, do you want to donate? Absolutely. All right. So you hit one click on your thumb, right? Two clicks on your thumb. You're at the donation page. And what does it have? It has two fields. One is donate to the Donald Trump campaign and then a field with you could put in a number. And then the below is a $100 and nothing in the Herschel Walker field. So you're just don't you're they know people are just going to be slapping their thumbs just like I do on my targeted Instagram. And they're just slapping their thumbs really quickly and they're just going to scam their way into donating to Donald Trump instead of getting a cool pair of UFO slippers.

They get nothing to give their money to donate to Donald Trump. Or a Wu-Tang Clan Knicks jersey. Oh, did you really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We did that in person. We did that in person, but I'm not going to lie. I saw those.

The OutKast one got served to me on the Internet, and I was like, between Jack and I, we honored our 90s rap basketball. Yes, that's right. At the end of the day, there's a part of me that does feel our show is all about vulnerable populations that get taken advantage of financially. And you can't I mean, this is going to sound terrible, but the Trump supporters are a vulnerable population and they've been scammed and they've been taken advantage of. Yes, they're racist. Yes, they're programmed to hate people and stuff like that for Fox News and stuff. But they are a susceptible group of people to influence and they have gotten scammed over and over and over again. It's just 74 million of them, unfortunately.

Yeah. You hate to see it. You just don't hate to see it quite as much as you do with other vulnerable populations. Yeah. Well, speaking of vulnerable populations, the fascists who are for Ron DeSantis, the job security is not great at this moment. Turns out it's like I said, like you said at the top, it's a little fire in time down at the Florida Fash Factory because, you know, recently, earlier this week, DeSantis assured supporters and donors. He's like, OK, look, I'm firing a third of my staff because it's part of a retooling, a great reset, if you will, to make my campaign leaner and meaner to be this like insurgent campaign to defeat Donald Trump. Yeah, OK, whatever.

But anyway, one of the people who got caught up in the layoffs was his speechwriter, this and meaner to be this like insurgent campaign to defeat donald trump yeah okay whatever but anyway one of the people who got caught up in the layoffs was his speechwriter this guy named nate hawkman and at first you're like okay fine a speechwriter got laid off sure uh but if you look deeper you realize that this guy was a fucking nazi fanboy on the payroll who contributed a ton of articles to the national review was like you know talking all the time about, like, how dope Nick Fuentes is and, like, other Groiper bullshit. And also got semi-famous for gushing over how Tucker Carlson, like, called him once because he was having a bad time. I think because he was, like, outed as a Nazi. And it's also becoming clear that this guy was the one who not only shared a video that came out recently with a fucking son and Radler or Sunwheel, which is like a huge part of like Nazi white supremacist iconography that had DeSantis like superimposed on it.

This guy is the fucking person who made it. At first, they made it seem like they were just sharing something from a fan. But now we find out it was coming from inside the house. And it's not clear if it's the same dude behind the other weird ass videos we've seen come out of ron desantis's campaign yeah but i bet there's a very graphic yeah yeah just completely off the wall like weird covers of kate bush running up the hill like just all kinds of weird like last couple videos have been really weird too but i have a feeling it probably a good chance it may have been this guy, too, because of the groiper aesthetic and just like the the sort of shit posty vibe of all the videos.

And, you know, it's not good news for Ron right now. He seems pretty fucked, like pretty well fucked, like every mainstream media, every every outlet has just agreed that he's fucked, which might be the best thing for him. I still don't think he's going to succeed, but probably needs to completely retool or do something to change the trajectory. I think the biggest problem being that he's just a fucking he's just the least charismatic human being you've ever seen. Yeah. Trying to communicate. Somehow the least charismatic Nazi being you've ever seen. Yeah. Trying to communicate. Somehow the least charismatic Nazi. Yeah.

How? Yeah. How? They're usually really animated. But yeah, I think it's, yeah, again, it's having the charisma of a Manila envelope and also just having no one on your staff who has any kind of real campaign experience. From what I've heard, there's not, he's like hired people who'd say things that are not yes, you know, basically.

And so I think he probably saw this, you know, this young guy and he's like, Hey, you're a young, can you make some cool videos that will resonate? But little did he realize like this guy, this kid is just like a, like a 4chan shit poster type mentality. So, you know, the videos that come out were only really resonating with other racist weirdos and not so much expanding a base. Nice guy, Nate. Are you kidding me? Nice guy, Nate. He did this? So nice.

Nice guy, Nate. What are you talking about? You know, Ron DeSantis is like there's this I can't remember where I read it was like this chart of like his likability after the first time you meet him. And then it just like plummets after that, because like in the news, you see him do this thing like he's going after Disney and there's a certain part of the population. It's like, oh, yeah. And then you like me like this guy kind of blows. He's so boring. And then if you even see all the videos that I normally am'm not like okay if they don't have a professionally run campaign they're toast right we got donald trump because of that but he's good at the media this guy is awful every video you see of him he's got this weird robot laugh he's like scaring his eyes are looking too big you know you can see the

whites of people's eyes too much that's like a huge flag you like it's just he's looking too intensely at people and no one can like connect with them i haven't seen him kiss one baby either which i think is another flag one thing i've seen him is wipe snot on a guy's shoulder like there's a video of him at a fundraiser he like wipes his nose like aggressively and then just like pats this guy who's sitting down on the shoulder. Like you just, okay, sir. It'll be the most normal thing he's done. Watching him try and like pal around with people in diners is worth,

like it's just him showing up at a diner and just, yeah. Laughing way too hard at like nothing and just freaking out, like not being able to eat any of the food because he's on like some strict Hollywood diet, but he's like trying to be like man of the people. I didn't eat pudding, man. I'm a sugar man. Yeah.

Give me that cheeseburger. Okay, where's my spit bag? Exactly. You like peppers in your home fries? Yeah. No onions. No onions in my home fries, please. I can't handle it.

The acid is too much for me. And no potatoes either. Wait, what? What do you want? Like the red? Yeah, just the green bell pepper. Just salt and pepper. Yeah.

Wait, what do you have? A warm bowl, one ladle of chicken broth, and cumin. He spices it up a little bit. I bet he's hung out with Gwyneth Paltrow before. Maybe. I bet he has. I would sooner believe that rather than Ron DeSantis being in some kind of Hollywood goop scenario,

that Gwyneth Paltrow would have been at Guantanamo Bay for some reason. Secret weapon. Yeah, that's where they hung out. Or she's like, yeah this is this is giving me a lot i love the aesthetic here those prisoners need to moisturize yeah yeah she actually uses tears as moisture it's like there there's something about the content of torture tears that she uses to and then she just enters the room and all the moisture gets sucked out of them

and like goes into her body oh wait i've got this great idea for a new baby, a baby shampoo. Guantanamo mores. You're no worse. Oh shit. Trademark that. Just trademark that. Yeah.

Just trade the Guantanamo mores. Yeah. A baby shampoo. Baby shampoo. Uh, all right. And then Trump seems uncomfortable. Yeah.

A lot of people over on the right seem uncomfortable. I feel like it's always a big news story, especially when the Democrats aren't in the White House. The Democrats in disarray. They're freaking out and wondering what to do. And no candidate is coming forward and pulling it together. I feel like we're getting the Republicans in disarray, folks. Yeah.

I mean, yeah, it's kind of freak out mode. It took a lot to get the media there. But I think they're kind of also being like, these guys kind of stink. Yeah. It wasn't the part where they were talking about how they thought Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene were to start fist fighting at any moment. Everything's all good over there. But yeah, last time we checked with Trump, he was screaming on Truth Social or rather like uploading full like three page PDF rants about his legal issues. Again, that's the guy's child.

You hear moaning back there. So that's say hello. Hi. Hi. Hey. Oh, there he goes. Wow. There he is. Capture that. you hear moaning back there uh so that's say hello hi capture that it's a drop i'm teaching i'm teaching everybody about the shitty former president so right now you know like he was talking about how we we felt that okay there's obviously an indictment coming based on how much screaming he's doing on on social and whether that's the dc like overturning the election case or the rico in fulton county georgia yet to be seen but he's clearly in give me attention and money mode right now which makes perfect sense because a lot of the

reporting suggests all these cases not even you can just imagine all these cases require a lot of expensive lawyers, especially the ones that have like specific purity clearances and can deal with the kinds of issues that Trump has. So that's one issue for him. And also like these semi veiled threats he's been making the last couple of weeks as it relates to his supporters. They're very passionate and I'd hate for something bad to happen. I know you would hate for something bad to happen. There doesn't seem to be like that groundswell of the MAGA freak outs that we had leading up to January 6th,

although he's trying desperately to try and create that atmosphere. So now he is asking Congress to please help me. And I'm just going to play this clip that he uploaded. And I do just want to acknowledge that. I mean, that was crazy. So when Miles was doing the Trump impression, he just held the Geist Child up and the Trump voice came out of the Geist Child. Yeah, it did.

An amazing impression. How'd you do that? Deep, resonant voice. You're truly my boy. You love that, don't you, folks? He's really good. You hear that? He's working.

He's doing a lot better. He's doing vocal warm-ups. Here's Trump begging Congress because he's V-comfortable, V-confident. Nothing's really good. You hear that? He's working. He's doing a lot better. Here's Trump begging Congress because he's V comfortable, V confident. Nothing's going on. But you tell me if this sounds like somebody who's doing this is direct to camera in front of conservatively 14 American flags. Yeah. He's crammed 70,000 flags into one frame somehow. 70,000 flags into one frame somehow. Congress, if you will, please investigate the political witch hunts against me currently being brought by the corrupt DOJ and FBI, who are totally out of control. They're going after Biden with all of his corruption, the most corrupt president in history, but they keep coming after me from the day I came down the escalator, all failures.

This continuing saga is retribution against me for winning and even more importantly to them, election interference. And then he goes on, they're trying to fuck up 2024. This is their version of stealing the vote. I just love the energy that it starts off with. I'm just going to play it again because he's like, Congress, if you will, please. Congress, if you will like i think someone was like

why don't you just don't sound so desperate right okay yeah congress if you will please please he's reading off a prompter like you can tell he's very he's one of the easiest people to tell the difference and he's very he's way less effective as a communicator when he's reading off a prompt when he's not the prompt he does that shoulder piv like he changes his shoulder angle his shoulders yeah rocking yeah just imagine the number of people that have had to learn to write in his voice yeah congress if you're listening yeah well i'm sure he has notes but i feel like he probably writes a little bit differently than i speaks. Viewer word slit. Trim that down. More caps.

More caps. But it does feel like weirdly formal. Like he's like, okay, I'm doing the thing. The big like plan, you know, DEFCON 5. I'm going to ask Congress to help me. Yeah. I don't know what he thinks is going to happen. Like throwing it back to the escalator speech,

which was the one where he called a whole country rapist. I mean, it's like, this is the one, this is the image you want to bring back. I guess that was like a great dividing line in our country, because some people watch that and were like, wow, this man's amazing. Other people were like, well, this guy makes a lot of sense.

Hey, man. Hey, I'm Kermit. Kerm man. Hey, I'm Kermit. I know. Kermit the Frog. I'm Kermit. Wet sash. Man, this is what having a kid does to you. It's like I just go into like some weird Elmo Kermit voice thing.

Well, he's all about like green grievance politics, you know? Where he's, you know, it's not easy being green. Everyone's. Anyways. Elmo believes that white men are being punished. Again, the ghost child. Incredible work. We don't like those takes.

White men are not being punished merely for the crime of existing. Hold on. The groundlings. What is happening? But yeah, like, so this is just. Elmo's dad does have a big soul patch, by the way. Does he? Oh, yeah. He is like one of those. He has like does have a big soul patch, by the way. Does he? Oh, yeah, he is like one of those.

He has like a Muppet soul patch. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't know what I think about that. He could have been in January 6th. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. But the thing is, like, we've talked about this in the past with all these stories.

Like, I get I get it. He's being indicted. But like, also, I don't have faith in the legal system to actually dole out justice in the way that like, we see it, you know, be heavy handed for many other people. So the only thing that really makes me feel that this is somewhat real is just that Trump is clearly uncomfortable. Yes. And I don't want to say scared, because I think that's too powerful of a word. And I honestly, I'm not sure he's capable of the sensation of fear as it relates to legal issues because this man has been able to skirt sidestep juke dodge whatever spin out of all kinds of legal issues that i think for him it's just more like oh shit they might okay you got to do your thing now

more than like dude please yeah although it's weird he brings the energy of an infomercial to this plea to Congress to like, yeah, democracy. He had, it's the same energy he has when he's like selling Trump water and Trump steaks. He's just like,

all right, this is my next venture. I'm going to talk to Congress. And it's, I, I, something's going on. Like the,

the Fulton, what, what do we call it? The, the Fulton indictment is that, Oh, this is like the Fulton County. Yeah. County case. The Fulton what do we call the the fulton indictment is that oh this like the fulton county yeah county case the fulton county charges seem like they're coming yeah and they seem like they're the i mean they're the ones we know the most about right because it was so out in the open well yeah he we've heard recordings of him trying to pressure the state's top election official to find eleven thousand seven hundred and eighty votes to flip the results.

His campaign recruited fake electors who signed off on a failed bid to eventually replace the real ones in Congress to overthrow the election. Local Republicans snuck into a county election office to tamper with voting equipment. That's those are all like those are pretty big and they're all talking too none of them are like it ain't some omerta shit where they're like yeah nice try i ain't saying nothing i'll do a fucking 10 10 10 year stretch on my head no they are talking and again like like we said the second brad raffensperger came out from uh like georgia to be like uh i don't know if y'all know what this guy just tried to make me pull. I was like, well, yeah, I don't know.

I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what other investigating will need to be done. But hey, here we are. The thing that I think always he gets like exonerated on all the times in some of these cases is like his mental state and what he was doing were different. He didn't intend on doing any of these things. Like I think the January 6th thing, he may be able to get off for inciting violence because he's like, I'm just talking.

But these other things where it's like the classified document where they now have him on recording saying this is a classified document that I'm not allowed to declassify this recording where he's talking directly saying, I don't think this was right. You should do this. These all speak to like his intention and what he wants someone to do. And then the act is the act. Everyone gets it. And so that, I think, gives me faith in the judicial process when it comes to this kind of stuff where I don't have faith in. It's like when there's a jury that can be influenced by a narrative in a very clear way right like he was just motivating people to use their powers of peaceful protest yeah i can see

a jury just being like whoa you know and it's all kermits and so yeah all juries are kermits so yeah that's why i think these ones are interesting and i like how they waited at least a while to come down with these indictments you You got to really get dialed in if you're going to do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's like with you could already see just sort of with Judge Cannon in, you know, South Florida, how she's already beginning to influence things with her, you know, love of Trump. But yeah, like it's these other cases that seem again, where it has much less wiggle room, especially, again, like for this Fulton case where like most people saw this without having to like, you know, go through the process of like discovery or investigating or anything like. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. I remember hearing that. I remember seeing that. Sure. Not going to lie. A lot of people saw that. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be back. We'll talk UFO hearings.

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Yeah, the non-apologies? Yeah. A little too used to them at this point. Yeah, the non-apologies? Yeah. A little too used to them at this point. All right. Should we talk Oppenheimer? I don't think that... Miles, you haven't seen Oppenheimer yet? Nah, nah.

This week, though. This week, I will go to look at Killian Murphy's spooky face in IMAX, I think. Spooky face? I need his Botox beautiful face. What are you talking about? Wait, hold on okay wait what so you killian he doesn't look haunted as fuck to you yeah but maybe that's my thing okay i'm just making sure we're seeing the same thing i'm not i'm not knocking you if that's what you're into but i'm like he he haunted uh but i get that then that's why he stays working because

you can't fake that face i like a good hollowed out husk of a man personally. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Great. Have you seen the picture where people like took pictures from the front row of the IMAX? It's like it's just so warped because it's just a wall, wall sized close up of his face. And it's like, man, his right jowl is really the star of this shot.

They shouldn't. They shouldn't. They shouldn't sell seats that close to the fucking screen. Because I saw Barbie in the second row. And I was definitely testing the limits of what is too close to a screen. Because it's like a bigger screen. And I was like, my head was jerking around. But then also the perspective does shift a bit when the viewing angle is so acute. Anyway, why am I going to complain

to the capitalist theaters to be like, sell less seats, okay? To make the experience better for everyone. If you just stand on your seat and in an athletics position and then just look back and forth really fast the whole time. That helps. Yeah. Blends into one image.

All right. So Oppenheimer, as we mentioned on our weekend digest, is making way more money than anyone expected. Currently has 94 percent approval rating from critics and audiences on Rotten Tomatoes. And it's coming under some heat for some things that it just kind of glosses over. Yeah, I feel like this week I've seen nonstop articles about like what the movie gets right and what is made up. Or other things like here's the real Oppenheimer story or things you probably didn't know were not there in the Oppenheimer movie. That seems like to be a lot of taking up a lot of space right now as people watch it. Are the articles like they actually dropped those bombs on Japan? It's fucked up.

Like, do you see how big those things were? And like super hot. I don't know if you know this, but like that's those bombs like killed a lot of people after. It wasn't just him having sex with Florence Pugh all the time in front of Congress. Yeah. Yeah. But so I guess Oppenheimer illustrates the devastation and his guilt only through like subjective visions that Oppenheimer has. visions that Oppenheimer has. The whole movie is told from his perspective. It stays on the perspective of Oppenheimer

himself, which conveniently allows a movie about one of the greatest horrors in modern history to be blockbuster entertainment for mainstream audiences. Right. But he was so conflicted when he made it, though. Just so you know. But also people's shadows

were burnt into concrete from the blood he felt bad yeah right right right yeah i don't know like hot take i feel like like it's almost like going to mcdonald's like i don't go to mcdonald's to feel good like yeah i don't think anybody's going to oppenheimer to like learn history like you're just learning about this weird dude yeah i think it on some level like i get that like as a as a work of like entertainment it's like okay there's plenty of like bummer shit you can watch if you really want to like drill down into like the atom bomb and shit like that but i think for like when you're talking about someone who's what they're what they're what they

gave to the world and you kind of avoid like what that actually ends up being, then it feels a little bit like, well, are you telling the whole story to just kind of focus on him there? Because I think there is so much complexity there that you can make like a good story out of. But I get why people be like, huh, you kind of gloss over like what, where all that work led. But OK. Yeah. Big part of the story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So one of the details that our writer, J.M., kind of points out also gets glossed over in addition to the dropping of the bombs in Japan is the land in Los Alamos where the Manhattan Project was based was like, first of all, forcibly secured and indigenous and hispanic communities were relocated lands were seized by armed soldiers who showed up with letters written in english that like the people who lived there couldn't understand because they sent no translators and part of the like reasoning that the military and Oppenheimer specifically used to pick Los Alamos as the site of the Manhattan Project was because competing sites such as in Utah would have meant evicting white farmers. And they also saw the dispossessed Hispanic and indigenous residents as a potential, quote, cheap labor force for the Manhattan Project.

Oh, my God. So they're like, OK, once they're displaced, they're going to be desperate enough to come work for us. Yeah. So, like, even if you're centering his point of view and like his decision making going into this, it is like you are having to do a lot of work on his behalf to just make him seem humane. And the big thing is like and this this part feels wildly cinematic like the sort of thing that christopher nolan would have to explicitly be like man that would be an amazing

thing to show is that like they knew the area around the trinity test site was like far from uninhabited so they're like all these communities who lived around the like where they set off the explosion who are not warned about the dangers of the experiments and like so there's like dozens of families within 20 miles and these are like largely poor families and ranchers and farmers and there there were like all these storms on the day that they were supposed to conduct the test. And a physicist warned Oppenheimer that this could be a catastrophe. And Oppenheimer relayed this message to the military by saying, the weather today is whimsical. Oh, it'll whimsically carry radioactive fallout miles away is that what he means very whimsically

oh the whimsy of radio radioactivity okay okay yeah he had that cool quote about being become death destroyer of worlds burning a hole in his pocket and he was like i gotta use this thing man like this is gonna fucking rule when we set this thing on dude you gotta put you know how thick the glasses are you gotta put on even fucking look at it it's gonna be fucking wild bro i love the two that the guy who told him that was enrico fermi yeah yeah enrique of the fermi paradox uh for people who like to talk about like space life out there yeah yeah make a story about him yeah yeah seriously so just a little like scene that was omitted so the a meteorologist warned that the weather that

morning was likely to spread fallout far and wide over new mexico civilian population right in the middle of a period of thunderstorm the meteorologist complained in his journal of the scheduled test what son of a bitch could have done this and so as the storm raged in the hours before the test fermi warns oppenheimer there could be a catastrophe oppenheimer took a break from the reading the poetry of baudelaire to relay to the military the weather is whimsical thing. I love that. Fucking reading poetry. He's about to end the lives of people and poison generations. Right, right, right.

Because, yeah, the fallout is still a legacy to this day. I definitely know about it. Yeah, it affects people's DNA. Also, that quote is so corny. I don't know. If you're quoting the fucking death thing, that guy shouldn't be allowed to make decisions? I don't know.

Right. He's like, but he's going to help us flex our power on the communists. That's the real big part of this, too. Yeah. They went through with the test. It was essentially a dirty bomb by today's standards because it like didn't succeed that well i think only there was like 20 of it that didn't go off or maybe it was only 20 went on yeah yeah 20 of the core went off and the rest was you know

scattered across new mexico and beyond literally ruined a batch of film at a Kodak factory in Indiana. That's close by, based on my rough geography and knowledge of the United States. So they're in New Mexico, and it blew all the way to... Oh, no, that's very far. Oh, wow. Yeah, what? Oh, boy. That's 1,267 miles from the middle of New Mexico to Indiana. Okay, so... That's like all of from the middle of New Mexico to Indiana. OK, so, huh? Huh?

All of middle America. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yikes. Yeah. And like that wasn't as far as it went. That was where it went and ruined a batch of film.

Like, right. That's how it was still that powerful that far away. The military collected radioactive fallout and you might you might assume that was in order to document and make decisions better but it was totally just based on like legal ass covering and for thousands of people who lived near the trinity site they were awoken that morning so this is the detail like this is the most cinematic, like fucked up depiction of this entire experiment that I could imagine. So the thousands of people who live near the Trinity site are awoken that morning by a goddamn nuclear blast that a thing that like has not been possible doesn't exist as far as human assumptions about reality, like human understanding has been possible. Or technology, right, yeah.

Yeah. Most of those people didn't even realize what had happened until the news of the bombing of Japan. And their land, crops, livestock, and water were irradiated, leading to generations of people suffering from various types of cancer. In the weeks after the test they were never advised that their land crops livestock and water may may have been contaminated like it just feels like that's all incredibly cinematic yeah but we can't tell the story from the perspective of the people

and have to do like the great man theory of history where everything's controlled by a protagonist who is sitting with detached bemusement and reading poetry and you know making massive decisions that affect the lives of thousands of people and millions yeah yeah yeah honestly hills have eyes had a better they did a better job of depicting the impacts of yeah truly the hills have eyes is is a story for the people about the downwinders from the fucking trinity blasts yeah and like again it is wild too because to tell that story you have to reveal a lot about the united states government about how commerce works about the motivations to just be like yeah we're actually don't want to displace white people we want to displace like hispanic and indigenous people We don't care about the poor people downwind.

And if they try and come with us with evidence that they actually suffered because of this testing, we're just going to fucking turn a blind eye because those people have no they they've never had and never will have any kind of financial recourse due to what happened there. So that's that's instead they'll come work for us. So, yeah, exactly. It's like, hey, hey if you want we'll test your body for a couple bucks oh that could be fun yeah it kind of reminds me when my sister and i we went to vietnam and we went to because over there they call it the american war not the vietnam war yeah and like the pictures in that museum are so much more horrific than anything you've ever been taught over here it's not a gi with like a sleeveless you know fatigue jacket on with cigarettes in his helmet singing fortunate son it's like yeah and that's what it

was we don't know about chemical warfare these other terrible things and napalm and shit like that right right yeah yeah that's always like that's always it's that's what's funny is like this way i guess it makes sense because america like the film industry is not always going to really crank out those real sort of sober eyed depictions of what our like imperial wars end up looking like on the other side it is going to be like yeah there was oppenheimer he did that and yeah maybe it was kind of like these guys in Germany kicked some butt and then they came back and they're still just kind of like we're always we're not left with like a real total telling of like the humanity of of war. But hey, that's for the European filmmakers to do because they have fantastic anti-war films.

Right. Is this movie funded? Like I know like top gun has like military funding behind it do you know if like oppenheimer does i don't know i mean unless that usually like it happens because you want to use the the military's toys and they're like fine if you want to play with our toys on camera then like we have like a say in stuff so i'm not sure uh with this one but i'd imagine i'd imagine there was some consulting on on some level probably but yeah i have no i have no idea there's an election coming up yeah right we'll see how this is used for i don't know which party will will benefit from oppenheimer seems like barbie is definitely being used by the right to to beat the culture wars uh to death but i don't know

about oppenheimer yet. I mean, it is crazy. Like the people who are called the downwinders who are like directly affected by this, like the fallout, like the government won't acknowledge or compensate those families. Like them specifically,

they're just like, yeah, nope, that never, we're not talking about that. We can't hear you. And so they, again, no, that never we're not talking about that. Yeah, I can't hear you. And yeah, so they again feel erased by history due to the film's glaring emission of their story and erased by the government. And like Biden last year extended the government's radiation exposure compensation act, but it still doesn't cover anyone affected by the fallout

from the Trinity test. And some lawmakers are trying to use the movie's popularity as a way to finally change that but so like maybe there's a good thing that could come out of this but it's it doesn't seem like it's based on sort of the narrative trajectory of the movie that that would happen right right right yeah i mean we see this all the time like just cancer clusters that pop up near like epa super fund sites or like, or how long it takes for like the EPA or the government to be like, Oh yeah, that is a cluster of cancer cases that was caused by something that happened

like in LA, like where the jet propulsion laboratory is, you know, where they were like doing a lot of work trying to figure out how rockets, how they can make shit travel very far to either destroy things or send things into space that contaminated a lot of water like in the san gabriel valley that meant there's like these cancer clusters that popped up that took a while for them to be like oh yes this is okay so we need to put like full-time water treatment like everywhere near this place because yeah we were too busy like playing with chemicals to figure out how to kill

people better. It just feels like a, I can't imagine for every, like the groups of downwinders there are, there's, you know, there's plenty more. I mean,

if you think of how long it took for people even in Flint, Michigan to even be acknowledged. Yeah. So sorry, I'm just Googling how far the propulsion laboratory is from my house. When did that happen? Oh, this was in the 60s. It's fine.

It's fine. You're a completely different water district. So it's okay. It's people in Pasadena and La Cunada, Flint Ridge and Altadena that are typically the ones that... We don't like Pasadena anyway. The parking is terrible. Yeah. And they didn't let Black people own property until very late in the game.

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