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or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh laughstravaganza. Uh, yeah. So, without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. It's time to talk about the thing that's so depressing, it's hard to talk about, and there's not much to say about it, but we're gonna talk about it because it's happening. Yes.

Children are being torn away from their parents when they are coming to the country, crossing the border, seeking asylum. The Trump administration earlier in the spring decided that they were going to change the policy so that going forward, it was a zero tolerance policy. And when a family came across, the parents would be prosecuted. And in the past, they would be allowed to stay together. And now they're being separated. Now they're just treating it.

Criminally prosecuting parents who have kids at the border to basically then exploit this sort of loophole that says children can't be held in criminal detention. So then, boom, they have to separate them. And that's all pretty much just to detour people and be as cruel as possible. Right. What do we do? I'm sorry. I can't hear about any of it without feeling like, what is the action that can be taken other than retweeting?

Yes. Right. You know what I mean? Because it does feel like as more and more things happen, the question then becomes what can we actually do in a way that it feels like

because the world is obviously so much bigger, so much more separate, you know, the way we, you know, I don't know. It's like this seems to be the first thing in a long time

that has rallied people kind of cohesively. You know, the imagery? Yeah. Absolutely. So like, great. Okay, great. So now we're all on the same page? Right. We all agreed as fuck. So now where are we going? Soively, you know, the imagery? Yeah, absolutely. So like, great. Okay, great. So now we're all on the same page?

Right. We all agreed as fuck. So now where are we going? So now what are we going to do? Yeah, where do I take my pitch for it? Exactly. Where do we take it? I mean, it's hard because on one side,

you'd think that because of all this public pressure that our representatives in government would do something about it. But when you look, especially on the Republican side, there aren't many actual Republicans that are in office who have said, who have really spoken up, or at least that are in office and aren't retiring. Everybody who's not running for re-election got their chest out like they're, you know,

that they're the new Martin Luther King. But all the other Republicans, even like Paul Ryan was like, oh, I don't like it. But then was like, the courts have to decide. No, no, no, no, no, no. You need the president can reverse this immediately. apart and putting children in custody. And one of the things that I saw pointed out over the weekend in an article is that this does permanent damage. Like they've gone back and looked at Japanese citizens who were put in internment camps during World War II and found that they are like twice as likely to suffer from cardiovascular and heart disease. And just, it's really bad.

And die prematurely. you know heart disease and just it's really bad die prematurely yeah die prematurely so it's just you know having these stressful experiences where you're thrown in prison for reasons that you don't really understand or you know kept in a holding cell uh for children uh where the guards are specifically uh not allowed to touch you or pick you up, even though you're in diapers, that's gonna fuck you up. Right. Well, just also, yeah, I'm a group of children together,

all of whom are experiencing trauma. Yeah. What it is to just be around those kids alone. Even if, say, you went to your parents at the end of a day, just that day is enough to fuck with you, let alone the fact that then this is where you are indefinitely with no explanation i i mean guys yeah guys i need some fucking pancakes up here this is no i am i'll struggle it's shameful yeah it truly is but and it's also not just as

you said you know these immediate uh quantifiable uh repercussions to the children and their parents. But then also, you know, I think America has told the rest of the world for a very long time, we're better than you. Yeah. You know, we're above you. And you do some shit like this, and it's like, you ain't got a leg to stand on. You can't be coming up in here trying to go to other brown countries telling them how to behave. Yeah, yeah, not anymore.

Because it's not like— Well, I mean, even from the the beginning we really didn't have that like but yeah right but we thought we had we were like well look at us you know i mean we're the you know the free world yeah bitch this shit ain't free yeah no he took one from mark maron and he locked the gates uh because what's really disheartening too is that like you say you would think that there would be enough people in congress to be like okay let's just introduce just introduce a bill, forget whatever the fuck is going on, because these people are so, their success or their ability to stay in office is so tied to not upsetting Donald Trump or that base, especially for Republican members of Congress, that it's very hard for them to stick

their neck out and try and speak up. And when you look around at a lot of the talking heads that have been going around to defend this policy, all of these people are speaking like they're describing non-human situations. And there's no acknowledgement of these people's humanity. For example, just, I mean, let's get one of the hottest fire takes I think I heard this weekend was Ann Coulter, who was then describing these children as actors. This was when she was on Fox and even the day the panel she was on Fox. And when she said that, they started being like, oh, I mean, just listen to this. And I would also say one other thing.

These child actors weeping and crying on all the other networks 24 seven right now. Do not fall for it mr president um i get very nervous about the president getting his news from tv because um i i also have an adios america i don't know if i well i don't i don't know if that's new yorker is not a conservative publication they describe i told you we wouldn't get away these kids are being i'm so sorry we have to go they're given scripts to read by liberals according to the New Yorker. Don't fall for the actor children. Okay. They're being given

scripts for like what to say when they get to a judge by themselves and can't speak English. Yes, right. On how to understand the process. Right, exactly. Not a, okay, when cameras show up, you cry and act like just act like you've been ripped away

from your family and then we're trying really drawn that that's your motivation right right get the fuck out of here to say that like that's if that's the mental gymnastics that some of these people are doing like yes i don't know i don't know what the fuck needs to happen do these people need to go see for themselves i mean i doubt any of them have the stomach to do that. And then, and then go on a show and be like, well, these kids are actors. It's just, it's a,

it's, it's just getting worse and worse and it's getting more frightening, especially with the rhetoric Trump has been using to like trying to paint Germany is like this country gone amok. And he's like, these immigrants have violently changed their culture. Like, yo,

this is really, really, really dark, dark language, shitty. Like the rhetoric is very scary to me. And it's like we're approaching a very, very crucial juncture, I think, to figure out like whether it's the politicians or people are going to have, I don't know, are we going to come together enough to demonstrate to the representatives that this is unacceptable, that this is shameful, that this could go down as a horrible period in our history? That's the question.

Well, right. It's like, yeah, what is the way you come together to and sort of the action? Because I don't think protesting moves the needle and like actually tugs at the lever as a power in the way we kind of hope it will. So then what can happen? Because I think you're right.

I mean, this is not rhetoric anymore, anymore right it's like the actions he's taking and it's like so and it's so rooted in the fact that these are brown children yeah right and how the moment you know and i mean look trump came out the gate in 2015 was it saying all mexicans yeah you knew what it was right yeah you knew what mean? Like, so, and that's the same man. This is the extension of that initial comment. Well, I'm curious to know, like, even for people who are Trump supporters, what they would say to this. Because I know, you know, there's clearly that group of people who voted for Trump who, no matter what, they're going to look at this and say it's fine. And I'm sure there are other people who, because as we've seen, and even I've met people who are like, I voted for Trump.

And I realized that was are other people who, because as we've seen and even I've met people who are like, I voted for Trump. And I realized that was a mistake because they were just on some, I'm just not Hillary type shit. Yeah. So, yes, I'm curious to know if those people can look at that and you could, if you engage them, if they're going to say, yes, this is right or whatever. Like, well, you know, their parents shouldn't have broken the law. They should have thought about their kids before they took them on this journey, this arduous journey. They're trying to, they're trying to flee violence or abuse or whatever. This isn't just because the Wi-Fi is too slow in fucking El Salvador or some shit.

This is for real. These parents are not coming here for a vacation. And yes, it's very tough to look at this, especially when you look at sort of what the White House's endgame is because this is what they did with the Dreamers is just dangle, like literally holding these kids hostages now to get money for this wall so that's the idea right is that their messaging is that the democrats

could make all this stop there that's bullshit that's bullshit voted for to like fund his wall exactly and if any and anyone who tells you that the Democrats can undo this shit, yo, tell them to fucking go do three, not even one. Like that is so disingenuous when people like when especially when these talking heads pivot on that. We're like, well, you know, the Democrats just blah, blah, blah. No, this is your White House administration's policy. It's not the law. And don't start using descriptions like, oh, well, it's the law. It isn't. It's a policy that you've implemented. Right. And they're saying that you could get them to stop if you did this thing, which, you know, they're not even getting full cooperation. Right. Because Republicans. Their bill is sort of like, well, you got two options, like basically not even close to some kind of a compromise. It's just sort of like, give me my wall money. And another one's like, OK, give me

wall money and then maybe we'll allow some dreamers to become citizens but also we're not gonna let any like the options that are on the table in terms of what the gop is offering are both they're just they're they're non-starters there's nothing in there that is like any kind of compromise that treats people who are trying to immigrate into this country with dignity uh and it's well that's why it's so correct right when someone's like especially now to try to come here you ain't coming here for a vacation you know what i mean you're not like if you coming under trump's america you're desperate you desperate right yeah you know desperate and then i just i wonder and i don't know if you guys found out like are they keeping records of who which children belong to which

adults I'm like very concerned that even if any of this is resolved people will not be yeah no one's gonna be I mean it seems like they must have a decent system because yeah have you ever been to a damn DMV I know right no I don't know

I mean I'm just saying that because to even think of that on top to begin speculating about how this could even be worse. No, no, no, not at all. But to answer your question, Super Producer Nick Stumpf in my ear just told me that on NPR, there were people trying to ask that exact question. They're like, do you have some kind of number system? They're like, yeah, we tattoo the number on their wrists.

Oh, I'm sorry. That's a different thing. They basically said that no one could actually quite answer the question on how any kind of reunification would work or at least how they were keeping track. Not to say that there isn't thing, but who knows if they can't even be like, oh, hi, I'm doing press about this thing and I can't even give you a talking point that would make us look even worse here. Right. It's so disorganized. The secretary of Homeland Security, we do not have a policy of separating families at the border, period. She said that over the weekend, I think, as Stephen Miller was basically acknowledging that this is their policy. And he also said, period. So they both ended their sentences in a declarative way, but they 100% contradict one another. There's also a report

from the Boston Globe who got inside one of these holding facilities for children and said that the method they have for separating the children from their parents, because they got tired of literally pulling the child who was clinging to the mother. It's very tiring. Yeah, exactly. It takes a lot out of you. So what they would do now is they tell them, we need to take your child to bathe them. It'll be very quick.

And then when they take the child away, a couple hours later, the person realizes they're not bringing the child back. So that's the sort of shit they're doing. Yeah. the person realizes they're not bringing the child back. So that's the sort of shit they're doing. And I mean, it does seem like public opinion is basically these Republican Congress people and the administration are the only people who think this is cool. Yeah, because there have been a lot of, you know, like Laura Bush has something to say. I forget who it was. Someone from the CIA was likening it to the Holocaust.

I mean, there's definitely a lot of people on the right who are very vocal in that they don't approve of this and think it's shameful and immoral. But there aren't enough people who are actually have the votes to do it or to actually put the sort of legislative pressure on the president. Because clearly public pressure means fuck all to this administration. I mean, we've seen that time and again based on, I mean, look pruitt is still the head of the epa right um so i give a fuck yeah and again this is just they're they're using human lives as bargaining chips in their legislative process because it's they just want this you know this they're he just wants his wall because he over promised on this thing and most people don't want it. And if you even listen, like Kellyanne Conway was on the Sunday shows, too, kind of doing the same thing, like half confirming that it was a policy,

but then also kind of half admitting that maybe these people are being used as bargaining chips. I mean, just sort of listen to this back and forth. Is the president ready to make that phone call to the attorney general, to DHS, to stop this policy? The president is ready to get meaningful immigration reform across the board. And Chuck, let me just tell you that nobody likes seeing babies ripped from their mother's arms, from their mother's wombs, frankly. But we have to make sure that DHS's laws are understood through the soundbite culture that we live in. There are three circumstances by which DHS evaluates a child at the border. One is, does this child actually have a custodial or familiar relationship with the adult?

And number two, is the child in any danger? And plenty have been over time. Some adults are using children to gain access to the border. Why use these kids as leverage? Well, I certainly don't want anybody to use these kids as leverage. I saw a headline that Breathlessy screamed as much, and I object to that very forcefully. Let me say this.

These children are hindered by HHS. In fairness, by the way, it was a White House official that told The Washington Post. Yeah, I'd like to know who that is, by the way. The thinking in the building is to force people to the table. By the way, I want that person to say it to my face. I really do. I'll meet them at the White House today because I think that's a disgrace. Should that person be fired?

Should that person be fired? That person should have the guts to come forward and put their name to that quote. Cool pivot to suddenly like, pull up. I know. She was like, meet me outside. Meet me outside. How about that? The real problem with this is leaks.

There's too many leaks. Yeah, that's what we need to do. And you see how she really, like when she was like, well, I don't think, I certainly don't want to see these people use the leverage. And he was like,

somebody at the White House said they were being used leverage. Then it was like, how did y'all know? Tell me who. Yeah, it's, my God. Say it to my face, though.

Yeah, who told you that is never a good defense. It just makes you look guilty as fuck. Who told you, yeah, exactly. I can't remember a time when just an outright evil was happening and you know people just felt this hopeless as to like so what do you do do you call your congressperson do we done that start laying down in front of the fucking buses as they bring children like away from their parents? What do you actually do?

First of all, if Jeff Sessions and Stephen Miller can safely walk down the street after this, people should be throwing something at them. I'll say paint and food. Pies. Pies, yeah. They deserve to have some shit thrown at them. Don't waste a pie. A waffle.

Or one of those pies from The Helps. Okay, those, that's fine. Yeah. And also, it's just on the policy front, it's worth noting that Trump vetoed a bill that basically had all the shit that he was asking for. It had money for the wall. It had, you know, the lottery thing that he's worried about. But he has Stephen Miller running this thing, and Stephen Miller is specifically just pushing it further and further because he doesn't think that there should be any immigrant. He wants to change it so that what is currently legal for immigration

is no longer legal and that you basically have to marry into the country of America. I think that's a fantasy version. Yeah you want to be a merry american yeah but don't look at this place as a bastion of freedom but also marry an american like be melania right yeah right you know what i mean they're not looking again they don't want brown people right period not from shithole countries no yeah you know what i mean if you want to come from norway but nobody want to come from norway because they got it together over there right by the way, Norway, the one place that's been statistically proven, people know I like talking about the Flynn effect.

The Flynn effect has gone backwards. It's sliding back in Norway. Their kids today are dumber than their kids 20 years ago. That's who we want people from. Come on, Trump. Norway sucks. Am I right, everyone? We hate Norway on this podcast.

Miles is totally on board here. There is a bill currently gathering support, right, in Congress? Yeah, Dianne Feinstein has a bill in the Senate right now that just needs just a little bit, I think like just one or two Republican votes. Right. And it would stop this practice. It would end the practice. It's fully meant to stop this ridiculous practice of separating families. Like it would just be like, no, this isn't going down like that. And there are people like Susan Collins who she was even like, they're like, well, what are you trying to do? And she's

like, oh, I support this bipartisan thing. And it's not even close to being humane. And yes, if Paul Ryan actually cared, then he would introduce a similar bill in the House to Dianne Feinstein's bill. But let's just be real. Republicans literally don't care. Not one of them. That's why none of them are speaking out. That's why everyone's got their heads low and trying to figure out what to do. And these are the people who are causing all of this chaos because they don't know whether they – if their loyalty is to this insane person who is running – who is the president or to morality or what the values used to be about the country.

To the insane person. Yeah. Right? Like now it's like so obvious that the Republican Party is about – It's just whatever Trump wants. Exactly. But also like just – it's about the wealthy having power. Yeah.

And if you are not wealthy, you are not a valuable person. Right. And they like – I feel like in a lot of ways we've seen that now, right? You can't pretend. You know, they – rest in the Lord. I think it's so funny the way they'll like to like call back to being like, we're the ones who freed the slaves. Oh, my God.

And it's always like, okay, bitch, you can't be claiming some stuff from 200 years ago. You know what I mean? That's like me being like, OK, I am very fit because Harriet Tubman guided people to the Underground Railroad. I can walk for miles. And that's why I'm not paying for this Amtrak ticket. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's like pulling up in an old 80s Mercedes and being like, yeah, I was doing good. So, yeah. And yes, there are people like Lindsey Graham who are vocal about saying this isn't right.

And I'll talk to the president. But, you know, that's just words. I'm not seeing you. Is he supporting the bill in the Senate? Lindsey Graham is not supporting the Feinstein bill. There's no no Republicans are. Every Senate Democrat is a co-sponsor of the bill. Yeah. So basically he's just giving a quote about the optics. It's all optics. This is bad optics for this president.

And don't get it twisted because this bill that the House will be voting on this week, I think they're going to be voting on it this week. That's just for optics too. For those Republicans to be like, well, we tried. The Democrats just didn't want to do nothing about it. Right. And that's not what this is. So, again, they're just trying to set up just all the optics for this to be like, well, they tried.

Democrats are obstructionists. But, you know, please arm yourself with the facts about this. So what is the House bill that they're trying to pass? What's that going to be? Like, why is that a non-starter? Well, because it's basically just uh the lottery would be ended your ability to bring family members over or what they like to call chain migration which is a shitty way to describe it they want to end that completely it's basically just the

most draconian version of immigration reform with really no concessions to what to what progressives want right and it would just free these children current children right well then there's other things that were like oh well you know that like you know we're addressing the family separation thing but like really on a technicality it does not actually end that practice it just sort of allows them to indefinitely uh whole uh detain like uh immigrant families it's it's the whole thing is just a show and so that's why people like on the leadership on the Democrats are like, yo, do not vote for this. This is not this. This is this is an empty gesture from them to try and, I don't know, make it look like they're doing

something for the midterms. Right. All right. So, Miles, what we'll post the link to where people can find out like specifically actions to take. Yeah, there are. But again, I know what you to sort of speak to the hopelessness that Naomi's talking about, it almost feels like how many times can I leave a voicemail? How many times can I speak to some person that is like is running the office of a Senator or Congress person? How much money can I give to the ACLU before you're kind of like, you're like, but this isn't doing the thing. And that's sort of what's good is that people are getting in touch with the frustration of being like, well, how the fuck is anything going to change? And yeah, I think, you know, as this

sort of practice continues, you'll see more things like they're in Texas. There were marches for people going to these immigration centers to try and, you know, demand that they end this policy, that there are there are actions to get into physical space. But again, also the thing to think about, too, at the very least, you must fucking vote in November. You have to vote. And if this if this really is an issue to you, talk to the people that you are thinking about voting for and try and understand where they're coming from on this on this issue because i'm telling you a lot of moderates will also be like well i don't know right and see those are the people too who are actually making this situation worse because they're so worried about the the voting demographics in their district they can't just stand on on something that is so objectively right and wrong and just be like no this is bullshit i don't care if they're they're like my district went red or whatever.

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I know. I mean, I'm using my no science brain to be like, well, then that's impossible. But also it happened to be the car of the actress Mary McCormick, who you know from Private Parts and West Wing. And it was her husband's car and nobody was hurt. But then, you know, there was a great photograph of the car with just flames firing out of the wheel wells. What?

To the point that it almost looked like something that would be dope to have if it was happening on purpose. Like a poster on a 13-year-old boy's wall. But it was not Back to the Futuring. It was just accidentally catching on fire. the futuring, it was just accidentally catching on fire. And it just seems like Tesla, I felt like this was as good a time as any to bring up the fact that Tesla is just kind of in this run of bad news with Elon Musk just being an asshole. He laid off a bunch of people recently because he overpromised on his production goals. He had an earnings call where he just talked shit openly to people for asking straightforward questions

about the goals and the things that you're supposed to- What do you plan on doing as CEO? He was like, your questions are boneheaded. It's like, okay. Wait, I'm sorry. Did he say boneheaded? Boneheaded, yes. Okay, bonk from TurboGrafx-16.

I know, seriously. He claimed that he does not promote unsafe working conditions in his factory by underreporting serious injuries, even though that actually was reported by The Reveal, their Peabody-winning journalism outfit know, super widely respected. And so not only did he just throw away their complaint and just, you know, scoff at them, but now he has decided he's going to distrust the media and call all the media liars. Oh, my God. And he was like, I'm going to start a site where we rate media outlets for, like, trustworthiness. Yeah, wasn't he going to call it Pravda or something? Yeah. And they're like, uh,

we already got that one. Yeah. And it's real journalism. So, but he just like, it's, you know, a guy who's really good at one thing,

thinking that he should run everything, you know, like people have just blown so much smoke up his ass about like how cool this one product he made is that now he thinks that he should run the media world take his fucking twitter away right he like all of them though but also you said he's good at one thing but like is he that good at that one thing i mean i think so i mean his companies are doing well i mean like spacex i think is to me more interesting than tesla for sure uh and like it's weird because he modulates between having good ideas or trying to do good things and then also just sort of being this profiteered

sort of dude. I think he is maybe good at more than one thing, but he's clearly a smart guy, but he's letting what he's good at just make him a complete asshole and all other things. One of the journalism outlets

that he was like, all right, so actually one of the journalism outlets that he he was like all right so actually here's some good journalism that like has excellent analysis that people should check out and slate pointed out that it's a outlet that is tied to a cult so like it's like a thing he's just like assuming he's an expert on some shit that he's just never paid any attention to and just doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Like the NXIVM newsletter. Yes. Yeah, exactly.

He's like they've got a lot of good points. And he's also dating Grimes, which is a weird, like there's nothing wrong with dating Grimes. Love Grimes. Objectively. But for some reason, this relationship just, nobody's a fan of it. I think it, I don't know why it makes me dislike both of them so much more, but I've never seen a relationship, like a celebrity relationship, where I was just like, well, now I don't like either of you.

Well, you didn't like Tom Green and Drew Barrymore. No, I loved. Oh, you did? I shipped them so hard, man. Oh, you shipped them before? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before you were like, God, please let, you did? I shipped them so hard, man. I was so heartbroken. Oh, you shipped them before? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before you were like, God, please let them be together.

I wanted them to last forever. Yeah, well, we all did. We were pulling for them. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's because it suggests that he thinks he's cool or he's trying to be cool.

Yeah, yeah. It gives him a cool factor. But then it also makes her, because wasn't it, and I'm sure a lot of the internet tell us, how it started was some, she got some joke about AI. And he was like, no one has ever gotten that.

Oh, really? So it seems to me like that whole dynamic is where you're like, I'm the smart one. And then after it's like, I'm changing my name to a lowercase c to stand for the speed of light. And you're like, okay, Ma. Thank you. It's like all so extra. I mean, you know, like, I think before all the Elon Musk stans come for us, like, look, I get his contributions are great, and you can't take that away from him.

But also now for him as being like the front-facing person of these companies isn't working out that great because he was doing his like, who you think controls the media, like little anti-Semitic dog whistling on Twitter. Right. And then like yesterday he was like trying to be like, ah, socialists are so boring. Uh,

he said those who quote, those who proclaim themselves socialists are usually depressing, have no sense of humor and attend and attended an expensive college. Fate loves irony. And then later on, he's like, by the way, I'm actually a socialist.

There's not a kind that shifts resources from the most productive, uh, to the least productive. So I'm like, okay, so you see socialism as a zero-sum game too? Mm-hmm. Okay.

Yeah. Do you think he was intentionally being anti-Semitic? Or if he was just picking up? Even if he was or wasn't, he doesn't understand how nuanced that could be. He's just picking up the dog whistle and blowing on it and being like, this isn't making any noise. What'd this do? You guys hearing this?

Yeah. There's nothing there. That's it. That's it. Right. That? Yeah, there's nothing there. Nazi, Nazi. Right. Nazi, Nazi. Can't hear it. Because, yeah, didn't you say that white supremacists were sort of like, yeah, man. Yeah, then they were hopping on that thread, and they're like, exactly, dude, and this

is the thing. And they're like, oh, da-da-da-da-da-da. And I think that's when other people were in the thread. They're like, yo, my man, look what you just did. Look who just showed up to your party. Right. But, you know, whatever. Well, I think that's

everything, right? We don't have anything else, do we? Oh, wait. World Cup date time. What? Oh, shit! It's the World Cup date! Woo-wee! Okay. Wow. So, it's your boy, Miles, here

with the World Cup date. Starting off with a few stories. Yeah, so to start off the World Cup date. Starting off with a few stories. Yes, to start off the World Cup date, first I want to talk about some of the results. This morning, Portugal proved that they are a one-man team and overly reliant on Cristiano Ronaldo because were it not for his contributions, I don't think the team would be capable of doing much. Has he scored all their goals so far? Yes, he has. He scored three in the first game and then won today. Shout out to him, he's got four goals i know seriously all at the same time the way they

played against morocco was very uninspired to say the least yeah uh and morocco deserved to win that game but sadly they lost and so that'll be their last match they've crashed out of the tournament but shout outs to morocco uh but in more important news, I've just been looking at sort of what's been going down for the fans out there in Russia right now. And apparently the new report is that just Russia in general, they are running out of beer because these soccer fans are too turnt the fuck up. And they're drinking the fucking they basically are drinking Moscow dry. They cannot keep up with the demand for the beer that these fans have. I know in some parts of the country, the Aussies, the Succaroo fans, yeah, they basically drank like an entire city dry,

tapped every keg of beer that was available, drank all the beer. The Swedes also did the same in another city because they were celebrating like their first World Cup win in like 14 years or something like that. So was basically it's a very celebratory thing but i still do not know how you let this happen because how do you not anticipate it is literally the biggest sporting event on earth and beer and you run out of beer yeah beer is literally the one thing you need yeah for this sporting event i don't know if they i don't know it's like running out of booze at your wedding.

You're like, what, are people going to want to drink there? Oh my goodness. Have you been to a wedding where the booze runs out? I have been to a wedding where the booze runs out. And I'm like, you failed. It's painful. Yeah. And you almost feel bad for them.

You're like, ooh, I know you don't like this because you just took an L at your wedding. Anyway, yes, they have completely failed us, the consumer, with their lack of beer. Now, on to more problematic things. us, the consumer, with their lack of beer. Now, on to more problematic things. Russian Burger King, they're so... Which already sounds like it's already going to be a problem.

They had a very weird social media campaign where they were saying, hey, ladies of Russia, if you get knocked up by a professional soccer player, we will give you 3 million rubles, which is like $47,000, and free Whoppers for life. And people were like,

yo, what the fuck is this? And it came down pretty quickly, and they're saying, we really apologize for this. $47,000's not that much money. Right. But free Whoppers for life. I would definitely eat $47,000. Double Whoppers? Yeah.

What are the restrictions here? Just get two, and then put them together. You got a doubleers? Yeah. I mean, what are the restrictions here? Just get two and then put them together. You got a Double Whopper. I mean, yeah, with the wage income gap is a chasm. I'm sure $47,000 goes a long way. Right. But yeah, that's a very, you know, that's cool. Well, Russia is struggling with population, you know, keeping their population where they want it to be.

Right. And they've like created a holiday that is basically Valentine's Day, but for fucking and like procreation. But they also don't love immigrants. So are they saying they want you to have sex with only Russian soccer players? No, they were fine with that part. I know there was a woman who like a member of parliament or Russian government who was like don't get in the window foreigners no right exactly yeah

so I mean the whole thing is very confusing yeah I mean who should I have sex with Russia tell me shout out to Deanna on Twitter for putting sending that my way moments before the recording so you just snuck that one in but yeah cool I mean Russian Burger King sounds like a cool band name so right

and is that that's gonna do it Yeah. Cool. I mean, Russian Burger King sounds like a cool band name. Right. And that's going to do it for our Road Cup date? I think it will do it, yes. Until the Spain and Iran match is happening as we speak, so we've put that aside. We've delayed the viewing of that so Anna and I can scream at the TV together. All right. That's crazy that Morocco is as good as they are.

They have the- They've got some good players. A lot of their players- They have a population of one of our US states. Right. And they are- Well, that's because the US does not invest in getting everyone to play soccer. It's not as easily available to everybody as it is in other countries. Right.

There is a white civil rights rally coming up in August 12th. Yeah. Finally. We need to get a drop for that. That's like fun and energetic. What do you want? We just want to whistle Dixie or something? Yeah.

So the man behind the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville last year just had his application approved to have a white civil rights rally in lafayette square in dc on august 12th on the anniversary of the charlottesville rally so his application has been approved but the permit has not been issued technically yet so there's still a process for that where they need to get more details hopefully at that point they will realize who the fuck is behind this and they'll be like oh no no no no no no we don't need this uh y'all can do that just in private somewhere in a field uh but yeah so i'm you know i think there there may be some possible public pressure on the parks department out there to to sort of reconsider uh issuing a permit for that considering what that man had to say about heather hire uh

yeah what's this guy's name it's kessler right uh yeah jason kessler what a surprise a german last name yeah hey not that there's anything wrong with german people it's just that they happen to have a very strange history uh he said about heather hair the young woman who was killed uh by the alt-right dude driving a car into her and a crowd of other resistance people. Kessler said Heather Heyer was a fat, disgusting communist. Communists have killed 94 million. Looks like it was payback time. I mean, I think that alone should pretty much be the answer to his permit right there. I'd be like, oh, revoked my guy.

So take that somewhere else. I know he's also suing the city of Charlottesville to have another rally there too. Good. But I can't imagine that they're going to. You realize we're all in America. I mean, his thing was approved probably like years ago. Yeah, yeah. I mean, with the optics around last year though,

November 9th, 2016. I'm sure this white rally thing was stamped in perpetuity. Yeah. Your million creature march. If there is a white civil rights rally in dc on august 12th uh i think i will probably go out there yeah whatever counter protest there is for that because that is just fucking ridiculous and unnecessary and that's not the new america we're trying to create if someone did want to rent a crop duster

and put a nerve agent inside the thing that would maybe do like a little flyover yeah fly a banner subscribe to the daily zeitgeist oh yes with the bank so so hold on so you want to you want to use this as a way to promote your podcast the dropping a nerve agent on a bunch of white. I don't know about the white and the nerve agent, but the podcast itself acts as a nerve agent. Yes. There you go. No, no. I think we should try to brand murder in the future. There you go.

Yeah. It's viral marketing, guys. This murder brought to you by Tide. A second rate podcast. What a mess. Tide. It'll clean up your murders. All right.

I'm sorry. All right. But anyways, fuck this guy. But but anyway, let's get on really ties into our better news. Better fuck Ayn Rand thing that they would have a white civil rights movement. Like, well, we're all just on equal playing ground or whatever. Yeah, we don't have any advantages. Yeah, we don't have any advantages. Yeah, well, look, the white supremacists, they're getting theirs because, look, there has been a lot of movement around the whole immigration issue and the family separation because of a lot of public pressure. And I just want to commend people for standing their ground. We have to keep we have to continue to stand our ground on this. But it's clear that, you know, I like to hear.

Yeah, stand your ground yeah exactly i mean honestly that's that's where we we have to sign to begin to really just say no no we cannot go past this line so there's been a lot of pushback on a lot of the racism and shit that's been going on there was a musician in alabama who just said some really wacky racist shit on facebook talking about uh he said he's like i'll tell you this is literally from a Facebook comment of his talking about the immigration issue he said I tell you what I'll volunteer to shoot their asses when they approach the border problem solved no more illegal

fucks coming in here period I don't give a shit about them blah blah blah goes on with some other ignorant shit. The thing that's always so crazy to me about this stuff is that the I mean forget for a moment that these racist pieces of shit um are just at their core racist forget that they have such a lack of understanding of what america has done in central and south america like why might people want to flee right these

places they're like i don't know. Has America had a history since what was it, 1954? With the overthrow in Guatemala? I think it's 54 or 56. I can't remember exactly, but like of fucking around in South America. Yeah, creating power vacuums that inevitably lead to people having

to come to America. I mean, Kissinger alone should be in jail in the Hague for all the fucked up stuff he did in Chile and wherever else. And what's funny with all this fear mongering around MS-13, people really don't, you know, I mean, really go back and look at what Reagan was doing in El Salvador at the time, putting all of this money into El Salvador to fight communists, basically, and, you know, giving training through the School of the Americas to groups like the Ataclá Battalion, who like perpetrated one of the craziest massacres in Central America.

Then all the people fleeing El Salvador to come to the U.S. and then Clinton letting their protected status expire, which forced a lot of people to come back to El Salvador. And a lot of those people were people who were dissenters from like the army there or guerrillas or other fighting groups they come back to el salvador with nothing except their fighting skills and then the seeds of these gangs now that he's like oh i'm researching these are all uh yeah there's such a lack of historical context anyway uh this man who was in his band he got kicked out of his band yeah he got three of his solo bookings just fucking axed. I mean, my guy, you should really be careful how you talk.

One of the venues you're playing at is an actual Mexican restaurant where the booker is an immigrant. Okay, my guy. So then he went back on Facebook with like, oh, man, I'm getting screwed for voicing my opinion, man, and blah, blah, blah. And this idea of I'm just voicing my opinion, I'm so tired of that shit. Like, my guy, there's no blah, blah, blah. And this idea of I'm just voicing my opinion, I'm so tired of that shit. Like, my guy.

There's also this thing is, there's freedom of speech, and there's what you are thinking is freedom of consequences from your dumbass speech. Freedom of repercussions. Yeah, exactly. We're going to take a quick break, and we will be right back. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season.

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So the number one trending thing on Google Trends this morning is actually restaurants. Really? Yeah. People just found out about these things. Restaurants. Never heard of them. You go in there. They serve you food.

They cook it for you. It's amazing. Like mom's house? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This list just came out from the world's 50 best restaurants academy, which- Okay. Good name. One of the best schools out there to send your kids to.

Who votes in this academy? It's like thousands of international restaurant industry experts and well-traveled gourmands. Oh, wow. Also us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Similar to us. People like us. People who just like to

Flex on the gram with their food Yeah It's actually the best restaurant I don't eat it So They start off with Osteria Francescana Osteria Francescana in Modena

Yes Yes Number one Yeah I couldn't believe that I mean I've only been there A couple times But it's

No I've never been there I've never been to any of these restaurants But it sounded like you guys have been uh i've been to yeah so i mean i i've been to a couple 11 madison park i've been to 11 madison that's in new york city good good hamburger um i don't think it's you know it's perfectly fine i'm actually i have some issue with this list okay i have some issues with this what's your issue some issues with this list. What's your issue? Well, I don't know how much I I don't think we know enough about the people that made this list.

Right, yeah, like who the fuck are you? Who are you? And how come Noma isn't on this list? How come Noma isn't on this list? Wait, up until recently... Noma Garcia-Para? Noma Garcia-Para, yes. No, Noma in... In Copenhagen. Yeah.

Rene Rezepi's restaurant. I mean, look, I have issues with lists in general. I'm like, this is all just spam crap. And anyone that is, you know, following, making their travel plans based on these lists, I question you. So we should, what's your list then? What's the number one restaurant in the world? Oh my gosh, that's so hard. IHOP.

IHOP. Denny's. IHOP. IHOP. Denny's. IHOP. Denny's. Oh, Denny's, yes, yes, yes. The Waffle House. I mean, I'm pretty lowbrow, so you shouldn't listen to anything I say.

But Blue Hill at Stone Barns is in here and also an excellent restaurant. I think I need to know more about what their criteria is. Yeah, exactly. I mean, El Bulli was one of the best restaurants for so long in Spain. And I just went to their new restaurant, Tickets, which is in Barcelona. And that's on there.

It was indeed fantastic because it was like a circus of food. Oh, really? Because it's only 32 on this list. I'm surprised that that impressed you. Just behind Tommy Burger. I thought Tickets was way better than Blue Hill at Stoneborn. Ah, okay. So we need to do some investigating

who these people are. Yeah. I feel like also there's this sort of thing where these are like a whole type of experience where it is an experience. It's an experience. Like going to these restaurants like there's like all these people waiting on you and it's just like, I don't know. There are also really good restaurants that are like hole in the wall taquerias.

Which I think are the best restaurants is the hole in the wall taqueria. It's more of a surprise too when you're like, oh my God, I'm having religious experience in this shipping container. Right. Yeah. Well, and my thing, you know, I was a travel writer for a long time too. And people were like, how do you find great restaurants? Do you look at these lists? And I'm like, fuck no.

I ask taxi drivers, you know, like taxi drivers know where to eat at all hours of the day and night and they know what's cheap and what's good yeah and how to stretch your dollar in a different country and so i i stopped paying attention to these silly lists yeah i feel like the hole in the wall taqueria's marketing teams tend to be less sophisticated than these crazy five-star restaurants. White tablecloth restaurants. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's time for an update on the summer of Scott. Oh, yeah. Scott Pruitt is back, baby.

Guys, our favorite kleptocrat is back at it. There was another Freedom of Information Act request to get more documents from the EPA. There was another Freedom of Information Act request to get more documents from the EPA. And this time we find out that our boy, Scott Costanza, has spent over $3,000 on, quote, tactical pants and tactical polos. Whatever the fuck those are. And tactical polo sounds like the most racist shirt you could ever wear. I don't know if it's like because it's made by like a tack gear company like 511 or something like that or it's like stab proof or immigrant proof

or whatever the fuck proof it is. Whatever it is. It's, yeah. It's to keep... Okay. Maybe you guys will get this. You know at the end of Akira, you know when,

is it Tetsuo, turns into that big blob monster? Uh-huh. If Scott Pruitt is so full of evil, the tactical shirt is to keep him from turning into that cancerous blob monster. Because if they didn't keep it in, he would expand and destroy all of DC.

Or the Earth, probably, at that point. But yeah, so I mean, again... Another classic Beckerman reference to something everyone knows. Yeah, I just feel like it's part of that whole racist person costume. Jack, you look genuinely weary. Having to read the news every day has just like- It is killing me.

But it seems like tactical polo is... Like, when you go to certain parts of the country, every piece of clothing is Under Armour. Everything is... Oh, my God. That's the scariest shit, honestly. Titleist caps. Yes, titleist caps.

The, you know, knockoff Oakley or actual Oakley, depending on if they own the roofing company or not, sunglasses with a beard and a Titleist cap and a tactical polo tucked into tactical fucking hunting shorts or whatever the fuck they wear. Cell phone clip? Yeah, cell phone clip. Oh, the bell holster. Yeah, if you got the cell phone holster, I'm walking the other way.

Yep. You don't have to worry about me, sir, because I'm worried about you. But that suggests that Pruitt used to dress like a hipster. He was blending in, and then now he has to try and blend in with his new people. I would be surprised if he was really trying to get into high fashion, too, on the side. Right. Oh, I was saying he used to wear Brooklyn Industry stuff all the time. Yeah, yeah.

He's like, yeah, now I'm wearing off-white. So cool. Hit up Virgil for that plug. Yeah. Every time we do a racist voice So far I've noticed Mine was George W. Bush It's a southern voice Apologies to the non-racist southerns

The non-racist southerns Southerners There are plenty of them They're mostly not racist For the most part They are just extremely polite and friendly people Alright That's gonna do it for this week's Weekly Zeitgeist extremely polite and friendly people. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist.

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