The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 290 (Best of 9/5/23-9/8/23)

Episode Date: September 10, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In 1982, Atari players had one game on their minds, Sword Quest, because the company had promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared, leading to one of the biggest controversies in 80s pop culture. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi. On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guests you could possibly ask for. People like David Duchovny, Jeff Goldblum, and Kristen Wiig.
Starting point is 00:00:43 We're doing all the dessert. We're doing all the dessert. We're doing all the dessert. We'll just skip right to it. Our second season is airing right now, so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, fam.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, Get your podcast. everything we never knew. I am showing up for my younger self and it is becoming a ripple effect energetically in my life. And that's why I feel so safe now. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Sophia, we do like to ask our guests,
Starting point is 00:02:07 what is something from your search history? Okay, so I have recently gone insane. Congratulations. And thank you so much. I've been working so hard. It's really just, it's just an honor to be nominated and win. Right, yeah, truly. On your your first try this is how you know
Starting point is 00:02:26 i'm insane okay i went from not caring or liking taylor swift at all to now joining a reddit called gaylor where i have seen multiple slideshow presentations that prove that Taylor Swift was gay with Karlie Kloss and others that prove that she was also gay with Diana Agron from Glee and also this other model from Britain named Lily they are all just the same white woman she's just fucking herself over and over again it's just like kind of fascinating and now like this is how, you know, I've gone insane. Because if you look at that search history, you will probably think I am 17 maybe. I don't know. And you're shipping Taylor with all these models.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I like I don't care that it's like I don't have a vested interest in the relationships. Right. I care about it in the same way that if like you found out that like i don't know obama and biden were lovers you were like okay i need to know a little bit more about how the fuck this worked like how did you pull this off when they when would they get together i need to all of the of the questions. Yeah. It's like, well, how do you do that and have full time boyfriends? Like, this is a lot of like, like covering being gay. Like, how, how are you pulling it off? So these images that if you have your confirmation bias set to gayler then yes and yes but also some of the stuff is like wow that is very gay i don't know that i should be out here trying to decide whether taylor is gay or not but the whole reddit is run
Starting point is 00:04:23 by other gay people who are just obsessed with the idea that like she's queer and her music is queer and she's been telling us and showing us and we're just like not getting it so as a cultural study it is the most fascinating thing and to answer your slideshow question some of them are like they're like a little thumbprint they're like a very individual snapshot of a person's mind. Right. It's like all confirmation bias, obviously. The modern Rorschach test.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Yeah, but you're also watching them interpret song lyrics where you're like, oh, no, that just means anything you want it to mean. That is a very vague lyric. Right, right, right. No, it refers to the one time that Carly bought a gold dress. It was this date. Here's the receipt.
Starting point is 00:05:06 The song that says jeans and Nikes. Carly was a Nike spokesperson in 2016. You understand how deep these women go? I love that. You also have facts now that like, you know, these models like endorsement. I shouldn't know any of this. That is what's so insane. I shouldn't know any of this that is what's so insane i shouldn't know any of it i shouldn't be thinking about it it is like an addiction like i think assume what
Starting point is 00:05:32 people feel like when they gamble just like a rush yeah it's like insane and it doesn't make any sense but you're like let's keep doing it yeah anyway the Anyway, the game. Yeah, there's subreddit. Do it. She kind of has to be everything to everyone. Right. And so, like, by keeping things that perfectly vague. Yeah. It kind of creates this thing where she can, like, break all the box office records.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Right. She lets people go watch a concert that they can also watch in person yes but i also just enjoy the fact that like she's just if she is gay she's only gay for exact copies of herself which i think is a fascinating category it's like no she's not queer she's queer for taylor right i just want to find mirror images of myself to fuck that is so wild wasn't that liberace's thing like didn't he have a lover who he gave plastic surgery to look more like liberace yes oh wow yes that is true yeah you said that so unequivocally. Yes, that is true. Well, because, yeah, I mean, people bring that up a lot as like a Liberace thing. They're like, did you know? Because it's so weird.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I wonder if like I think it's an interesting exercise just for anyone with an imagination to try and make anything true about Taylor Swift, like using the same methodology. We're like you actually if you think about it, all of her lyrics are steeped in like black Panther ideology. Right. I swear to God, there's someone right now making that slideshow. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Like, like for sure. There's a swift contingency. That's like, you don't understand what being a black Panther is until you listen to red. Right. Taylor's version. It's like Red is actually
Starting point is 00:07:25 an anthem for the Crip Gang, despite it being called Red. And here, in this thread, I will. I will. You've seen the theory that her dad is the Zodiac Killer, right? Oh, yeah. And that she's trying to reveal that through her lyrics. I mean, what? I just made that
Starting point is 00:07:42 up. That is, again, probably being built right now right right as you said it people were like this is true 100 yeah Saudi what's something you think is overrated so I think you know when you go to the like basically the U.S. border patrol the fear of U.S. border patrol I think that's overrated because I was like, it's my first time coming to America and people were like, oh, this white guy got sent back. The Border Patrol guy asked him three times, what are you doing here? What are you doing here? And the third time he must have said something funny and they sent him back. So I was like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:08:21 they're not going to let me in and they're going to send me back. And this is what happened. The guy basically was like, did you travel alone? And I was like, yeah, unfortunately, I'm single. And he was like, how long are you here for? I was like, two months. And he was like, are you here to get some dick? I was like, what? Basically, we just start laughing.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I had a whole suitcase full of my book, Sex Bomb. I'm like, oh oh no please don't search my ck then and and he was just like welcome to america yeah wow get it in yeah boom boom stamped your shit off you go i was gone i was i was gonna do anything i had to do to get in to be honest whatever he wanted so i mean that sounded like he was opening the door to that conversation yeah he's like oh is your number in your passport let me see that real quick let me get that I mean, that sounded like he was opening the door to that conversation. He's like, oh, is your number in your passport? Let me see that real quick.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Let me get that WhatsApp real quick. But the thing is, before me, I was sweating in the lines. Before me, there was this like European, she didn't look British, but she was a white blonde girl. He took her to the room and then came back to the table. So she had some further questioning. So I was like, that's a white girl. I was i'm in trouble and we just started laughing it was i was just so happy the way that worked out yeah yeah it's amazing i yeah i don't i don't i can't imagine i mean like i feel like that was a very new york interaction though too like if someone in that capacity goes oh so you're here for some dick like that feels very accommodating right yeah yeah oh yeah
Starting point is 00:09:47 yeah i'm i'm glad i'm glad he knew the audience rather than like saying that to like someone who maybe i just love how he sent a desperation you know i mean like he didn't know me right he must have just seen my but he was like why are you moving around in the in the queue i was worried about him he must have thought i was like just ready to pounce right right he was like asking why you were you were like giving a little squirm what was yeah he was like oh you're moving from side to side and i was like i just be quiet because i i just i'm not gonna argue with no one who's got authority over me like it's just not gonna happen right right right right right right you're like oh so you a doctor now you're like you're not going to come back with that response you'd be like yeah yeah i don't know what i said i must have said
Starting point is 00:10:29 something back to him i said oh you're no this one i said look how slick i am i said oh you're very observant there you go i mean yeah kind of he is he kind of landed on the on the right question right yeah so yeah wait maybe like there are some people working the u.s border patrol who are like born for this and they're like i'm just very observant and i can read people i know when someone's horny right yeah right exactly the nervous person in line whisper right while you're here so two months are you are you are you out there you're gonna be are you be hitting the app so you're gonna you staying open you're looking for love you just kind of you know you're here if something happens it happens you're not
Starting point is 00:11:14 really looking for i someone told me actually when i was in england because i'm trying to like find an agent or whatever not and they were like oh you should just join all the apps like because you'll meet the best people like that she wasn't even really strictly talking about dating but i'm very anti app and i just i just i don't like it i like real life kind of stuff so uh love would be great dick would be really good yeah yeah yeah get you yeah we need to get you to like an art opening like a gallery opening you know what i mean find some find some wavy i'll be listen there's guys on the streets collecting cans yeah yeah you're like are you willing and able then we are no a lot of them are passed out you know i'm not gonna lie a lot of them are not willing and they're not able yeah i like miles i like that you went with art opening like are you are you picturing thomas
Starting point is 00:12:04 crown affair what do we what are we picturing no just thinking like people who are kind of chill you know like that because you never know what you get in a club you know so i feel like you can tell me where you can't get in the club so i can watch out for it but yeah i feel like side you got a little bit of class to her you know so probably could do with something a little bit elevated. You know what I mean? Not just some scrub, but yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:28 But again, I don't know. I don't mean to. But I'm like classy too. Now I'm joking. Yeah. Right. My final dress at the library looking for something. All right. What is, Marcella, what is something that you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:12:41 You know, I couldn't think of something. Maybe because I got a little high. Yeah, you got a little high this maybe because I got a little high. Yeah, you got a little high this time. I got a little high this time. Ladies and gentlemen, introducing a little bit high Marcella for the first time. She's never been a little bit high on our podcast. I've never been a little bit high on anyone's podcast.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I trust you guys. I thought there was not going to be a guest host. I was like, you know what? I can get a little high. I read the comments. People get mad that I'm so mean to Jack. And know when i'm a little high i'm a little more flirtatious i like that jack you're like it's fun like you're also trying to not make that i was fine like it's all good also i love how they're i love jack's like be nice to marcella when she's mean to me guys it's okay it's kind of my thing yeah i mean a lot of and you know what's funny is a lot of guys don't
Starting point is 00:13:25 understand it too there's a comic who's like a little has a little crush on me and i'm just very mean to him oh yeah yeah yeah and and i really give it to him more because i know he really enjoys it and i'm waiting for him i'm waiting for him to be like marcelo why are you so mean and i can't wait to be like stop asking me why i'm so mean and ask yourself why you like it you bitch oh that's gonna be a moment when he when i have that exchange i'm wait i know it's gonna happen one day because it's such a got it loaded why are you so mean to me so mean why do you like it you little bitch yeah that's the real question what'd your mom do to you bro that's what i want to know what didn't she do? You little pain hog.
Starting point is 00:14:06 So, yeah, I'm a little high. So I'm a little more fun and a little more rambly, but it'll be worth it, guys. So, like I just showed you, but overrated, underrated, couldn't think of something. So I decided to Google things like, what do people find overrated? Because I was like, because it's all it's all opinion yeah so the top three things in the first three articles the number one thing one bitch wrote bacon overrated is overrated okay so i already know the bitch has no taste like i also feel like you're about to out a bunch of our former guests because you're like what if you well what if you like named a bunch of like other people's overrated and underrated and they were just like googling
Starting point is 00:14:49 like i don't have opinions what are overrated that's probably true damn i didn't think about that you're totally right but bacon come on yeah it's a sinful meat it's so good i think we've said this in the in the past we're like it's properly rated i get like 10 years ago we were doing too much it was od overrated by some people who are not worth paying attention to oh my god bacon people yeah but like who gives a fuck about them like let them have their weird little thing yeah go to the like as they say that's like the fucking heart attack cafe or whatever the fuck it's called where like everything is bacon like i get it we get it but like don't don't you gotta hate on it yeah it's so tasty it's so good what else is on
Starting point is 00:15:34 that when you find yourself being like uh like i don't even really like this thing that's fucking delicious and like makes my body like involuntarily do things like water just pour out of my mouth when i oh my god that's not i thought that was wow but but when that's your take like you're working too hard to have a take exactly i also just you know it's good when religions are like you cannot have it like you know that shit is good man it's gotta be so out of here so another okay another article i'm not going to name these people because they're all weirdos but another person their article then her number one choice was clubbing clubbing going out clubbing and it was just like you loser bitch like stop imposing your introverted lifestyle
Starting point is 00:16:24 on people who enjoy being outside. When's the last time you went to the club though, Marcella? You go to the club a lot? Well, because of my foot injury. Oh, right. It's been few and far between, but I will say like two weeks ago, I think it was like my birthday party weekend. So it was what?
Starting point is 00:16:43 Middle of August. So yeah, like a couple of weeks ago i was out and i because of my foot injury couldn't really do much but yeah i took my boyfriend to this place in medesco called crocodile it's like this old ass like it is a wedding reception without the family it is so fun there's like no drinks on the dance floor they encourage people to dress up there is a strict dress code and not like, not on some like, like high grace dress code on some,
Starting point is 00:17:08 like, don't come in here sloppy, bro. Like guys have to have their shirts buttoned up. If they wear a button up, like you cannot have a little like tank top showing underneath. Like they're very much like, nah, bro,
Starting point is 00:17:18 we're here to dance and drink and have a good time and respect everybody. Whoa. And they're on it. Like I saw them go up to some guy, some young dude. Cause he thought he could get away with whatever he was dressed up really cute but he unbuttoned his shirt to like show off and dudes came up and were like you need to button your shirt back up bro and i loved it because i was like yeah i got dressed up you should be dressed
Starting point is 00:17:37 up too couples like 70 year old couples come in there dressed matching and dance the night away like i love going out dancing and that's maybe that doesn't fall under clubbing but there are places to go out and have a good time and dance and enjoy yourself and i hate when people are like clubbing is so lame like girl you just don't like to drink and be out and it's loud and you're probably neurodivergent you can't handle all the fucking sensory overload shit that's you might be going to the wrong clubs like go to a club like this this shit sounds so fun we had another guest talk about like going to like there was like a chandelier room where they were like singing elvis covers or some shit like it's just like go find a weird club find the club yes find the club that works for you but don't shit on clubbing come on
Starting point is 00:18:25 jersey shore shit i get like you don't want to be around that i understand right right right sure you know there's so many different what about bottle wars did y'all see that clip over the weekend of the bottle war shit that was going on no like a houston nightclub it was like new york versus baltimore bottle it's like this shit people been doing for a while you just start you just start emptying bottles onto the floor for the flex oh god to be like dumping like six thousand dollars worth of liquor like onto the floor that's annoying yeah that's rude it's it's the flex you know what i mean it manifests in different ways but i'm at the crocodile's website i'm looking at they have a whole dress code sub page like so women no sports, no sports attire, no t-shirts, no sweats, no baseball caps, beanies, no overly revealing clothing.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I like that. They're like, we're modest. Then men, collared dress shirts required. No sports attire, no t-shirts, no longer short sleeve shirts, no Henleys, no shallow V-necks. Oh, Henley style and shallow V-necks? Okay. No hoodies. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Shallow V-neck. Nice dress sweatcks? Okay. No hoodies? Okay. Shallow V-neck. Nice dress sweaters? Okay. But I can't get away with my shit that I try and pull off with my V-necks. That's right. With my deep V. We know you got that J-Lo deep V. Like where I'm flirting with exposing navel. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:19:38 No sweats, no baggy loose clothing, no club colors. What are club colors? Are they trying to say like gang colors? Club colors like gang colors, like red gang colors. Oh, okay. I mean, red, I mean, red, blue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then whatever else. No sandals, flip flops, no fans.
Starting point is 00:19:50 You can't wear red or blue? Or you just can't wear all red or all blue? You're saying. It depends on the red or the blue. You can usually tell. Right, right, right. Yeah. If you don't have like a flag coming out your pocket with your suit on, then maybe we have
Starting point is 00:20:04 a problem. Wait. Yeah. wait so but you're saying this isn't on some like racist shit because it's very much like they just want or they just want everybody to come in like it's like it's a nice place like it's a nice place i'm telling you that's not there they're totally like trust me hood motherfuckers show up trust right right right but they're in their like they are there but they're in their player they're in their player fit yeah that's what i'm saying it's like okay it is it seems like it off top like you sure i get it but when you're reading it but i'm telling you it's not that they're like no no you can be hood is fucking here and you can
Starting point is 00:20:32 like be annoying and all that shit but just be cute don't feel messy on the dance floor you can't like they really are just like no we're just here it's like family like it's like a family function like no we're just here it's like family like it's like a family function i love it wow the interior does look like a time capsule it is dude it's so fun if you're ever in the central valley and you want to go out especially on saturday night friday nights are pretty empty but saturday nights are always popping they're so and it's the music is insane yeah there is music is insane dude this looks like this looks like it's like a fucking scene in carlito's way or yes dude yeah so that's what i'm saying when you walk in there you want to look cute right right right they want you to match the vibe it's like carlito's way mixed with a uh laser tag like yeah
Starting point is 00:21:16 yeah yeah yeah it's on that shit it's cute so the music like the other day it was like it went from like suavemente to like uh eminem like the music is insane it's silly it's just you're there for a silly time right right and that's the other thing that's why it's like even the music is like kind of corny but like in that fun way where you're like we never in high school yeah yeah you know you're at a party you're just like you know you're just gonna be kissing tonight that's it wow shout out crocodiles. I love crocodiles. It's the funnest. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:46 So finding a weird club is underrated. Yeah. Finding a like cool. Yeah, exactly. She was saying it was overrated, but it's like, nah, man, find the clubs that work for you. Yeah, right. And then the final article that I saw that the I I've only gave the first one for the other two articles. I got to give the two on this one because it's really funny how they go hand in hand.
Starting point is 00:22:07 This guy's idea of what's overrated. The first one is a formal education, which I agree. But then the second one is science. This guy's got some opinions on the vaccine. He's got some. He's done some research, some of his own research on the vaccine I don't think he's a fan of Fauci yeah because it's like oh yeah formal education
Starting point is 00:22:29 I agree not everybody should be required to fucking for any fucking job to have a fucking AABA any of that shit there's plenty of jobs that don't need that shit and then he said science and I was like bro I'm tapping out like we are not agreeing on the same on the same number one.
Starting point is 00:22:46 He's like, yeah, well, I got my master's degree on YouTube. You know what I mean? So that's why I can go toe to toe with any person who went to a brick and mortar college. Like, I'm not sure. Okay. Okay. I actually got a bachelor of science from Prager University. From Prager.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Which that's not usually their specialty. It's all price based. It's all faith based science. Yeah. Ity. It's all price-based. It's all faith-based science. Yeah. I got mine at Ragu University. Ragu. All sauce. Prager,
Starting point is 00:23:14 Ragu Old World Style degree. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll check in with Donald Trump. We like to do it once a week. Just make sure he's doing all right. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:23:33 In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist.
Starting point is 00:23:57 My reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
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Starting point is 00:26:13 And we won't be playing the the drake drop for this no no 61 protesters have been indicted for uh violating georgia's rico act for protesting the building of a massive military installation yeah uh-huh a lot of clear who the bad guys are, right? Yeah. Oh, of course. The protesters. Thank you. Of course. How dare you?
Starting point is 00:26:31 They're getting hit with charges like domestic terror for like trying to disable like machines or like, you know, they're like they're throwing molotov cocktails and all this other stuff. Money laundering because they were setting up bail funds. They're trying to like they're going after these people in the most fucked up way. The charges are being pursued by the state's attorney general, you know, Republican Chris Carr. And yeah, this is like a some multifaceted movement of people that realize that building these police training facilities are just merely a terrible escalation of the militarized like police state that we're experiencing across the country. And, you know, antithetical to lowering instances of police brutality when you're like, here's
Starting point is 00:27:15 like a here's a whole place where you can train on how to suppress people's, you know, democratic rights and things like that. It's like the police brutality training complex. Oh, yeah, because they want it. They want to be like, we want them to have the feeling of what it's like the police brutality training complex. Oh, yeah. Because they want it. They want to be like, we want them to have the feeling of what it's like to like, you know, kettle people
Starting point is 00:27:29 in city streets or neighborhoods so they can do it more efficiently to like round up people. And, you know, the attorney general and governor have been just steadily screaming about how like this, this whole thing is actually the work
Starting point is 00:27:42 of like an org. It's like organized criminals. This is actually the work of like an org it's like organized criminals this is a criminal organization and enterprise to sort of create this rico narrative to go after protesters and if you want to really understand how cynical and racist this shit is if you just look at the date listed on the indictments for like they like they're putting may 25th 2020 as sort of like the beginning of like this shit going down which is the day george floyd was murdered okay wow so they want to conflate this event with all of the scary blm protests to see like you see what's going on folks it's just this like large movement to sow discord and chaos when all we're trying to do is make people safer the one of the da's in atlanta sherry boston said that
Starting point is 00:28:22 her office would withdraw withdraw from criminal cases involving Cop City. But this is some scary shit. I mean, these are people exercising their First Amendment rights. And the state and city of Atlanta have just made this into a campaign of Democratic suppression. The officials, they blocked a referendum on Cop City. They ignored all the pleas from the public, all the public comment where we were like, we do not want this. Or other people in like DeKalb County were like, this is near where I live. This is, I do not want this. I do not want to see the forest raised.
Starting point is 00:28:54 So you can create this fucked up training facility. Then there were people who were like, like local election board members were removed for opposing cop city. And now we're charging protesters with domestic terrorism under the RICO Act. Yeah. Also, I was going to say that you should have so much shame that you're using the fucking RICO Act, which was used to bring down Capone. Yeah. Right. On these people. Yeah. Like just the fact like how do you even put that in your mind together as even remotely in the same camp well it's just so fucking yeah i mean i i always am shook and like speechless because like i expect people at some point to have shame and then i'm like no but they don't like what am i talking about they're heartless and yeah driven completely by money and power so why am I so shocked but it's like
Starting point is 00:29:51 every fucking time you know and to try and again scare people from wanting to put checks and balances you know on our system especially as it relates to law enforcement it's like oh you want to protest this watch us go scorched earth on your ass. Meanwhile, we're like, yeah, these people who like storm that, you know, like we have like people, capital protesters, we see judges be like, well, you know, I kind of want to go softer in my sentencing here or there, where you have a very focused AG's office in Georgia being like, yeah, you know what, let's go. Let's go Rico on them and try and make an example of these people. Also, sorry, I was just going to say I was legally arrested for protesting in college illegally. Yeah. Illegally arrested for protesting in college.
Starting point is 00:30:35 And I was part of a class action lawsuit against the Metropolitan Police Department in D.C. police department in in dc and we won and like it was one of the most kind of fucked up and traumatic things being detained the way i was i also wasn't a citizen yet i was just a resident alien and like they you know took all of my paperwork my resident alien card all my shit like yeah when the cops batoned it off of me i just never got it back but the amount of time and like effort and everything it takes to even go through a thing where you would then sue like we ended up changing the law but the number of years that it takes like and the way that they treated us you know i was zip tied right hand to left foot for like over 12 hours you know the way they fucking like treated us in jail whatever it just it was super fucked up but the fact that they did that Friday morning really early before an entire weekend of protests, that's pretty much the same tactic here. It's like they try to go used because it was they were training in riot gear cops for months before this. Like it was all they had buses numbered ready to go because they were like, we're taking hundreds of people off the street.
Starting point is 00:32:16 So then for the rest of the weekend, there's no protests. Yeah. So it's like it just like it makes me so fucking pissed because these people are going to get fucked on a much, much larger scale. What I'm talking about is child's play. And it still was hard to get any sort of justice or change the law or have anything be different. And I feel like the number one thing they tell you when you protest, right? They're like, hey, you know, you guys are thugs. You don't use the system correctly. Like, why don't you use the lawful system?
Starting point is 00:32:50 And everyone did in this instance, too. Yeah. And it's like, OK, well, I'll tell you, I did the actual lawsuit and the lawful thing. And it is. That is not you think that that's justice or that that's really what people should be doing or that that fixes anything. Like, obviously, if you're thinking that there's the right and wrong way to protest, you also are going to think that there's never the right way. Yeah. People went to those city council meetings. They gathered signatures. They did every they
Starting point is 00:33:20 tried it every single way. But again, when you have municipality in this bureaucracy that's just so intent on making this installation happen no matter what, you get these kinds of fucked up measures. And I'd hate to bring up private equity. No, don't do it, Miles. It can't have anything which is a private equity firm that owns Inspire Brands, you know, Duncan, Arby's, Baskin Robbins, Buffalo Wild Wings, etc. Their CEO sits on the board of trustees for the Atlanta Police Foundation, and they're raising $60 million from corporate donors to build this place. Like, so there's one part of it. The other is Silver Lake Management, which sounds like a cool maybe talent agency that represents bands from the east side of la but no no no it sounds like a like a like a
Starting point is 00:34:12 land lording agency right like you rent your apartment from in silver lake right exactly silver lake management they actually are tech focused private equity firm and have they have a huge stake in motorola solutions uh. the company that designed the surveillance system to make Atlanta the most surveilled city in the United States. And they also develop really cool tools for use in prisons, the U.S.-Mexico border and surprise, surprise, the West Bank. Because we talk about there's this conversation of using these sort of like crowd control technologies. They start off, they can they use them like abroad and the West Bank fine tune them. And then we end up seeing them boomerang onto our own shores used against our people who are exercising their First Amendment rights. So, yeah, it's wild to think that the ratio of cameras to people in Atlanta, it's's 40 almost 49 cameras per thousand people in atlanta
Starting point is 00:35:05 that's the highest it's more than dc it's more than new york city and you're like huh huh it also feels like we're seeing like a fucos boomerang on like the legal precedent of like okay we cheered when they used this against trump and then they're like okay so you're good with that then and then watch this we're gonna use it against your ability to protest against a fucking military installation. You know, the one that protects the right to protest, which you should be into because you're so into the law of the land. Right. No, no. That amendment, I guess, is bullshit. The First Amendment. We just don't look at that one.
Starting point is 00:35:56 That one's just like what else? And I mean, you think you look at like even protesters that were killed by the police over the court. Like it's this is it's it's it's mind blowing. And yeah, now again, it's like the Republican attorney general's like it's this is it's it's it's mind-blowing and yeah now again it's like the republican attorney general's like yeah watch this i'll use the same grand jury that got those charges for trump and we'll use it for this now yeah so and i think there's a really valid point sofia that like they're you know as we see more fear from the wealthy as we see more fear from the wealthy, as we see the billionaire owner of Cartier lose more sleep over the idea that like eventually the people are going to be pissed that we're billionaires. Right. Like, you know, the more we see that, the more we're going to see things like this where they're trying to make an example of people protesting. they're trying to make an example of people protesting. Yeah. I think it's imperative that we like keep attention on these people and like, you know, understand that these are people who are
Starting point is 00:36:52 working on our behalf, even though I think the mainstream media narrative is not always going to be very favorable to the to the protesters. Right. No. And you hardly would you hear a thing where it's like, wow, they're really I mean, again, everything is always tinged with slightly pro cop bias. Right. So they just want to make it look like it's a bunch of like hippies who want to save the trees in the forest when a lot of people like this is again, we're ramping up our militarized police state in a time when all they've proven, all we've seen from our law enforcement system is that it doesn't work, doesn't work. It doesn't prevent crime. All it does is pile up more victims of police brutality. But yeah, these are these are the stakes right now. Yeah, no, I think also these strategies, you know, always repeat. It's like every single time protesting happens, the way that they try to quell it is always tactics that they've used before. And I think one of those things is like, that's great about the internet is if you go and protest, I just want to make that clear to everybody that like you absolutely should, if you can, but you should absolutely know going out what you should do and not do have the, you know, National Lawyers Guild number on you, like, all of the stuff that you absolutely need to know, you can look up. And it's just, I think, really, really important, because,
Starting point is 00:38:18 like, a privileged fucking white woman, I was still like an immigrant, which, again, scared me, because, you know, they charged me. They try to charge me with rioting because we asked for food and writing is a felony. And if that happened, I would have been super fucked. And like, again, privileged white woman still was really fucked up experience. And you just need to know what you're going in and you need to have friends on the outside when you're protesting so that, you know, they know what the deal is. You have a plan. Just like be careful when you do it.
Starting point is 00:38:54 That's all. Yeah. Yeah. Because they ain't playing fair out here. No, no, no, they're not. All right. Have you guys heard of the game Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon? Sick pivot.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Sick pivot. Oh, yeah. Have you guys heard about this? Have seen this have you seen this you guys heard about this you seen this oh yeah wait i mean just got our guest last last time when sophia was on was like the thing the thing that is underrated about your podcast is the hurtling changes of pace. Oh, yeah. We got to hit them all. The zeitgeist comes at you quick. It does. Does your news feed stop to coddle you and think about your feelings?
Starting point is 00:39:38 Don't you get a mixture of Apple alerts that are like bummer news? And also it's like Kylie Jenner and Timothee Chalamet relationship updates than i am i mean i just go on the internet i'm like wow a hilarious joke about bussy and then underneath that it's like we have created another monster voltron of cops. I'm like, that's life! And then I scroll and I'm like... Here we go, Voltron. Is it good for your city? Yeah. Okay, cool. Bless you. Still not better.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Thank you. Oh yeah, your sexy, dark voice is gone. I know, my sexy voice. Miles, I had the deepest voice that I've ever had when you were gone. Oh, when you were sick? Yeah. It was crazy. My flu gave me like crazy deep voice. Like Barry White style? Yes. I mean,
Starting point is 00:40:30 not that cool. It was fucking mesmerizing. It still sounded like me, but much deeper. Or like, what's that opposite of helium? That gas where it makes your vocal cords super loose? Yeah. That's kind of how I felt. What's up, y'all? I sound like a rocky especially but
Starting point is 00:40:47 everybody loved it people were mesmerized you could tell asap rocky that was people were falling for him sulfur hexafluoride that's what it is bay victor like justin everybody the whole crew is falling for me. Just fucked up over it. All right. So there's a new study from six different nations. This is just like one of those studies where it's like, wow, you did everything so well to just put this into a press release. And I'm not mad at it. You did a good job.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Fine. You've gotten my attention. But basically the whole thing they're like the thing about six degrees of kevin bacon also happens in real life where there's like six degrees of separation and they kind of looked at the math of how humans form our friend groups. And basically, we are constantly evaluating. It very much sounds like, you know, a scientist who
Starting point is 00:41:52 has not spent a lot of time around other humans, like observing humans, because they're like, the human is constantly evaluating the cost-benefit of keeping an old relationship alive or making a new friend. And the study spends a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Oh, maybe he did the study because he wanted a friend. Probably. Why do we do anything? Right. And I probably read it because of that. But the study spends a lot of time basically explaining why people have friends. They're just very confused about that. I think that's pretty sweet of that yeah and to write that
Starting point is 00:42:26 article i know isn't it i kind of love it but the interesting detail is the nash equilibrium like the point at which people have no further incentive to go incentive to go outward with their friend baking or inward with their friend pruning usually lands at a place that averages out to six degrees of separation from like everyone else on the planet which is wild but that that's the i mean it makes sense like i assumed it was going to be something about like network dynamics and like how you know over over time you're like sort of compounding the number of like just you know three degrees of separation away you've like compounding the number of like just, you know, three degrees of separation away. You've like compounded the number of people that everyone knows.
Starting point is 00:43:09 But it's also about how like the sizes of those groups that each person is connected to. Well, different, you know, work out to an average of about an average of about six. Huh. Huh. How so so but that wouldn't have been true pre-internet i i think it has been true that's the thing like i think it's because we've been doing it pre-internet right that yeah yeah existed before like no no no i just mean oh i just mean do you really i guess i was thinking like it's easy for me to think of being six degrees away from anyone on the planet, like with the Internet and like also just like, oh, you have a friend that lives in this country and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. But I'm harder to track. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. So I didn't know the origin of the experiment or of the idea of six degrees. It's actually Milgram. You know, the guy who like did the experiment or of the idea of six degrees it's actually milgram you know the guy who like did the experiment yeah it's the famous shock experiment where people come into a lab and it it was based on like the trials of nazi prison camp guards at the hog and how they were like we were just following orders and so he did
Starting point is 00:44:28 this experiment to show that people will continuously shock people whether or not so so basically the people weren't actually being shocked but a person a white lab coat is like keep keep administering basically you wouldn't see the person the person who was administering the shocks quote-unquote would hear someone's sounds of pain yeah but that person was acting but the person who was shocking them didn't know they were acting right so and they kept what later churned out in addition to the result of like oh yeah people will straight up just follow orders because a guy lab coat was like keep shocking but the other thing that came out of it is a lot of ethics stuff for how you run studies because the people that were fake shocking once they found out it was fake they were like super
Starting point is 00:45:14 fucking traumatized yeah and they're like great now a great result my life knowing that essentially you used me to prove that i could be a nazi A Nazi, exactly. I have to go lay down, you know what I mean? Yeah, but you're just following orders, man. You're just following orders. Yeah. And there are other things about the design of that experiment and how some people might have really known that they were acting and who knows. The other big experiment he did that I was not as familiar with was they basically tried to connect two people in as few steps as possible just by like sending out this brown paper package and being like, hey, we're trying to get this to a divinity student in Boston. You are a farmer in Iowa that we've randomly selected from the entire population of the U.S. Like, go.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And they found they were like, oh, well, I know this Episcopalian like in my town. The Episcopalian was like, I actually know somebody who I like met at an Episcopalian conference who's from Boston. And they got this package to this randomly selected divinity student in like a matter of six degrees. And they found that to be kind of consistently the case when they ran this experiment. And the thing that I hadn't fully appreciated is like they also asked people before this experiment, like, what would you think the results would be? Like, how many steps would it take? Yeah, how many steps? And that is, like, you know, I've known the six degrees of separation.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I've known that phrase. Yeah. I've known that that is a Will Smith movie since I was, you know, properly storing memory. So I don't know what my guess would be, but the guesses range from, 100 to 1,000, two people being like, you'll never connect them.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Like it'll just, like, why would you ever be able to connect two random people? Like the world is so big and so massive. I would have guessed 12 for some reason. Really? Like 10 or 12, I think. What would you have guessed? I think I would have guessed like 100.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah, if no one had said anything about six degrees of whatever ever yeah i would probably think it would a hundred feels like i could do it within a hundred yeah yeah yeah feels like a safe bet it is it does it is a little mind-blowing you're like we probably take less than 10 you're like really yeah it seems so far away single digits i think like totally it's single digits, I think, like, totally. Fucks me up. Yeah. Exactly. Fucks me up the way my voice fucked up everybody last week.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Fucked up production. Miles will never know. Yeah. Miles, you better listen to that episode if you respect yourself. You better fucking listen, man. Watch, and I get all self-conscious, and I come on tomorrow's episode, I'm like, yeah, so what's up, y'all? I'm also, my voice got a little bit deeper.
Starting point is 00:48:04 You won't be able to record anymore because you're just blushing so hard the entire time. I'm like, he's talking to me with that voice. You stop putting yourself on camera because people can't handle it. Jax just can't. He can't be on Zoom. That's right. It's hard. Sometimes it's hard but it's like so now they can so you can apply
Starting point is 00:48:27 this now to all kinds of sort of like network mapping right if you kind of know this to be sort of it averages out to around six no matter what yeah it helps like with all kinds of like i guess you know how we look at pandemics or other network dynamic or network dynamic dependent phenomena. Yeah, it's six infection cycles and the whole world has the fucking thing is like kind of the dark side of this finding is, you know, it spreads quick. Right. And I think this is true of also like social contagion, like the how quickly ideas spread you know because that that's a thing that spreads over over social media like faster than it ever has and so i i think we're less stable like across wide geographic margins than than we ever have been like we're more susceptible to ideas that come in and sweep through and and things. And it's definitely like a power,
Starting point is 00:49:27 a powerful study because they, yeah, they specifically say when we did the math, we discovered an amazing result. This process always ends with social paths centered around the number six. Each individual acts independently without knowing the network as a whole. Yet this self-driven game shapes the structure of the entire network leading to the small world phenomenon and the recurring pattern of six degrees that's fucking crazy yeah that's yeah the small world it is funny that like even when we went to a museum in like london we ran into somebody who her majesty didn't even know but came to find out they were at the same college at the same time oh it's wild randomly like helping a stranger up the steps
Starting point is 00:50:10 with a baby stroller and we had one too and then started talking and then it's just like oh yeah my husband went there and then it's like what the fuck that's crazy yeah it wasn't even a thing where you were like wearing the same sweatshirt and like noticed each other. Yeah, no, no, not at all. Just you didn't have your two groups of parents. College hat on. Yeah. Waving a pendant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Fuck, does this guy think he is? Before running to the same people when I'm visiting a place like at different like during my vacation or whatever, like at a lot of different places and not like tourist attractions. You know what I'm saying? Has that happened to you ever? That happened to me this weekend. So weird. The Huntington Park, the Huntington Library, whatever the fuck that thing is called.
Starting point is 00:50:55 It's not in Huntington Park. Library and Gardens. No, yeah. It's an amazing, huge garden. And like we arrived with like three different groups of people, like just in line at the same time and kept seeing them. We were just on the same. We would circulate, go in all these weird different directions and kept seeing those same people.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And it's a big-ass park. Oh, it's massive. There's so many different ways to go. It's like not. Or when I rented my place in Paris, I knew one person there. And he was like, oh, what's your address? And I gave it to him and he started laughing
Starting point is 00:51:29 and he's my friend. He's half a block his place was half a block away. Oh, wow. Really? I knew one person in all of Paris and ended up renting an Airbnb.
Starting point is 00:51:46 It's like 10 12 blocks. It's I knew one person in all of Paris and ended up renting an Airbnb half a block away from him. It's like 10, 12 blocks. It's huge. So big. Find out Paris. You got the Eiffel Tower. You got a couple streets on the left side of the Eiffel Tower. You got that Triumph Park.
Starting point is 00:51:59 A couple streets to the right. Done. Call it. There's a river. We're done. You got the Champ Sports. The Champ Sports. Elieze. We're done. You got the champ sports, the champ sports, L.E.J. Got it all. See, so it comes back. So culture. Yeah. Champs had me, too.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Yeah. Amazing. All right. Well, let's take another quick break and we'll come back and talk about Donald Trump. We'll be right back in 1982 atari players had one thing on their minds sword quest this wasn't just a new game atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe.
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Starting point is 00:54:56 and the Ad Council. And we're back. We're back. And the internet is, you know, just clogged with jokes about this recent flight that had to make an emergency landing because one of the passengers had just an unexpected amount of diarrhea. It sounds like spilling into the aisles levels of diarrhea. This was a Delta flight from Atlanta to Barcelona. Was forced to turn around and make an emergency landing after a passenger. This is the quote that I think people are responding to.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Quote, had diarrhea all the way through the plane. That is a powerful description. All the way through the plane that is a powerful description all the way through the plane of that i think and then they said it was a i think then they told the from the cockpit they said it was a biohazard event yeah that would was forcing them to turn the plane around uh which is very it's some the amount of obsession with this story is kind of wild i don't know if it's tapping into like just in it like innate fear we have as people or what but i i i've i thought this was like a headline i would see come and go but the amount of like other places like vice tmz like all these other blogs that are now like writing like long form articles about it like
Starting point is 00:56:26 where did like where did the sort of like social norms break down during this event like is something like i'm now like seeing think pieces about like how did we get to the point that was in the eyes the poop yeah how what happened? What required, like, why are they saying social norms broke down? Like, isn't it just somebody who had a health problem? I think it's almost wondering, like, how could it be that much? Why is it all up and down the plane? Like, was someone in blocking the bathroom? It's caused more questions than I feel like we even need to ask
Starting point is 00:57:07 you know i don't know how much weight he lost right yeah will it stay off you know yeah i don't know might need to be like though yeah and we know it's a him because women wouldn't roll like that you know i mean like i think it was the dude had to be wearing cargo shorts. It's just coming down. It's just like a like a white cargo shirt. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Very. Yeah. But it's like and it's just wild, too, because now you're seeing like listicles like here's some other unusual reasons like poo has like derailed a flight. And you're like, wow. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing is not that abnormal. Like, right. I guess it's usually dogs, right?
Starting point is 00:57:47 Like in 2014, a plane had to make an emergency landing because a service dog pooped in the aisle. Let me get an exact description of that one. Because they're like up to three times, according to multiple media reports. The airline's cabin crew did their best to clean up the mess, but then the animal service dog, according to U.S. Airways, pooped again up to three times, according to multiple media reports. In 2015, a British Airways flight had to turn around due to a smelly poo in the toilet. So that presumably was not a dog. I'm shocked that it doesn't happen more frequently with dogs because it did. I had a, i don't tell this story very often because my it turned out our dog was very sick and like we we didn't realize it at the time we were traveling
Starting point is 00:58:31 with our dog but our dog was you know tiny sprinted out of the bag we were carrying her in made a beeline for first class and just took a massive shit in first class. The flight attendants like brought her back, told us we were going to like have to turn the plane around if it happened again. And then it happened, it happened again. Cause she was like an escape artist and it was, it was really bad.
Starting point is 00:58:58 I had always admired her for being a real one and taking this shit in first class. But you know, it like she ended up being very, very sick. Like when we got when we landed, we took her to the vet and like she didn't make it much longer than that, unfortunately. But it was definitely incredibly stressful. And I have always wondered since then, like, how do all these dogs like I see a lot of dogs on the flights? And like, how do all these dogs, like I see a lot of dogs on the flights. Like, how do they, they're, I'm just impressed that they know that they need to hold it and that they're like, you know, able to do that the whole time.
Starting point is 00:59:38 I guess it's just like the owners like skip a meal beforehand. I guess. I mean, I've flown once with my dog and that was the only fear I had the entire flight was like, you know, shit everywhere. Like, yeah, I'm gonna look like the dude with the shitty dog on the plane or the airport. I think a lot of it had to do with like my own, I think, shame around having a like more less so about the like worrying about the dog. It's like the dog will make me look a certain way and I'm not about that life. So I had to maybe put my my my frail ego aside to let the dog do its thing but yeah i don't know it's just i think it's a universal fear we all have you know yeah and i think i think there's also a lot of people like are just focused on what it
Starting point is 01:00:17 must be like to be that person who yeah had this experience right right because now all we're talking about is first the person who did this mess and messed up everybody's flight to barcelona you know what happened what how could that have happened he had too much curry could be or maybe just having like our terrible air like airport food that's one thing i'll say the the airport food is better in england than the u.s because again i hate to bring up those like easy meal deal sandwiches but if you bought a sandwich in the u.s airport it's gonna be like a 15 croissant sandwich with turkey on it that tastes like absolute shit and who knows how good it is so i feel like it could be it could be our it could be something at hartsfield jack airport, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:05 I don't quite know. The thing with, the thing with this, like the BA flight that had to be turned around due to a quote, smelly poo, which is a very English description where Americans would be like, yeah, dude, just shit everywhere. A smelly poo had to be, I like, they said only 50% of the air is being recycled. Is that telling us during the pandemic, like so much of the air gets recycled and like filtered? Or am I completely missing that stat? Because I feel like that was a thing that people were always told about how the air on airplanes is much better than you would imagine.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Right. I mean, 50% is still a lot of the air. But yeah, I don't know what that even means, that 50% of the air is being recycled and cleaned. Right. Yeah. A decision was taken to return for the safety and comfort of our customers on board. Yeah. Very classy. I think someone complained about the shit, you know. It can't have been that much.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Someone complained. Someone just couldn't handle the shit you know that it can't have been that much someone complained someone just couldn't handle the shit but in but in this one there have been videos from the from inside the plane after it all went down and it looks like there are streaks of something running up and down the aisles which is those you know it's funny articles, you're like, those images have not been confirmed by the airline. It could be propaganda. It could be scat propaganda. So I'm not sure entirely. Oh, dear.
Starting point is 01:02:33 It was very bad overflow. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Well, at least they made their flight after a five-hour delay. So who should play the guy in the movie? Right. It's a great question.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I mean, I think it kind of has to be Tim Robinson, but is it someone nervous? Is it, or is it, or do you see someone with confidence about it? You know what I mean? Like I can see it being a villain too.
Starting point is 01:02:57 It's like, Hey, I don't know what you want me to do. Right. It's just, Oh, you know, like I think if we put ourselves in that situation,
Starting point is 01:03:04 we might be a little less brazen or confident about it happening. Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh. You know, like, I think if we put ourselves in that situation, we might be a little less brazen or confident about it. But, hey. Yeah, if it's, like, a confident person, then it almost is, like, are they just doing it on purpose because they feel like they can get away with it? Like, that becomes weird. And how long till you fly again? Do you know what I mean? Like, how long till you. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Do they. Right. Do they. Do you get a new plane or they're like or you go back in the plane you're kind of clocking all the mess you're like oh they didn't really get everything but you know what i don't want to delay my vacation so let's go yeah great questions that we don't we don't currently have the answer but obviously this is an evolving story obviously that we will you know we'll we'll keep updating and we'll we'll it's not now history has
Starting point is 01:03:47 its eyes on this one absolutely we'll see where it lands so to speak uh and finally hollywood keeps trying to recreate barbenheimer in weird ways which like so one thing we're getting a low budget parody movie called barbenheimer about a group of quote fed up female dolls who build an a-bomb to bring down the patriarchy once and for all the poster is a barbie doll silhouette in front of a mushroom cloud and it says d cup a bomb barbenheimer exploding soon the studio in charge of this production is full moon features best known for the puppet master and trancers movies what's trancers i'm not familiar with puppet master uh trancers seems like it's like trying to capitalize on some other movie but i'm not i'm not sure what what exactly that is it's like uh it it's
Starting point is 01:04:48 i don't know it says it's the first one came out in 1984 the trancers the first trancers it looks like some janky version of like tron maybe not transformers huh No, it's like a fake Transformers, fake phantasm. Like this feels like not the highest level. It says a gruff bounty hunter travels back in time to 1980s Los Angeles to stop a twisted criminal who can transform people into zombie-like creatures. Oh, that sucks hard hitting it well they so this came out in 84 so they were ahead of the first transfers did yeah yeah helen hunt was even in it wow all right so but mostly people uh in studios keep trying to awkwardly force pairs of movies that happen to be releasing on the same day into the barbenheimer mold the most prevalent attempt at the moment seems to be saw patrol because saw x and the new paw patrol movie
Starting point is 01:05:52 both open on september 29th and so people are like forget barbenheimer get ready for saw patrol on september 29th what is the logic they're applying it's just that like saw and paw rhyme therefore it's the double feature of all time that's what worked about the last one which one are you gonna watch first yeah yeah which one you catching first you going paw patrol first or saw saw x first go paw first okay yeah yeah see i think you need to watch saw to like get ready to to feel all of like what is actually happening in the paw patrol movies i think you need saw to to prepare you right because the overlap of i that that that's not even a venn diagram of audiences it's just two circles on top of each other right yeah yeah yeah like barbie and abenheimer were obviously very different
Starting point is 01:06:46 movies but they can't you know they could conceivably cater to the same audience like movie lovers first of all and then like right adults but like no adult wants to see paw patrol like that that's a that's an actual scientific fact no No adult is going to Paw Patrol without being dragged there by a child. Right. But kids would love to see Saw. They would. They probably shouldn't. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Yeah, there's a lot of fun. There's a lot of creativity in Saw and things that appeal to a child. They love puzzles. Yeah, especially ones that end with you becoming disfigured or dying yeah of course but they they are like both film studios are like playing into this like they did a saw like saw patrol social media post like they they had the paw patrol puppies in a post from paramount pictures saying seven tickets to saw patrol please hashtag saw patrol and then the jigsaw doing like a
Starting point is 01:07:53 a weird children's puzzle and then i don't know it says there is no escape this is not really uh oh but the the children's puzzle is a paw patrol puzzle so it's just jigsaw having a meltdown and uh deciding to kill clearly like based on a paw patrol puzzle that picture is like of like a mannequin that they just put a pencil in the hands like that is not like real hands and a jacket you know like look how rigid the hands are in that picture it's like just dress this doll up and we'll say it's jigsaw but isn't jigsaw that that jigsaw is a toy right oh oh is it huh it's not that is who is the guy oh but then there was the guy low-key who was dying in the background right who was right yeah yeah yeah okay okay i forgot see i'm this is i don't fuck with those movies
Starting point is 01:08:43 i'm like i don't want to see something where someone's head gets, like, sucked out with a vacuum or some shit. I'm like, nah, I'm good. Yeah, I can't. I'm not giving that. Yeah, yeah. Life's already too fucked up. I don't need to be like, yo, you'll be worse if your eyeballs got fucking blown out by a fucking vacuum. I'm like, nah, I'm good.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Then, all right, so just others that are trying to shoehorn in Taylor Swift's Heiress tour and the exorcist movie uh they were trying to make it into exor swift but then the exorcist movie fucked off because they didn't want to be on the same day that taylor switch was like breaking the box office right and then indy wire questioned if the new barbenheimer could be the release of Martin Scorsese's historical drama Killers of the Flower Moon and the sci-fi drama Foe, which, like, I don't know. It's just very confusing. I don't know what they think happened the first time. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:37 It just speaks to, like, the quote-unquote brain power in Hollywood, too, where you see, like, they see a thing work once and then the first thought is we need to replicate this in the most literal way possible not like zooming out and trying to understand what happened they're like i don't know they combine the word barbie and oppenheimer and people fucking lost it so let's give us all their money. Maybe it's like a magic word and we say magic word and they give us all their money. We need to invent the new magic word
Starting point is 01:10:12 to unlock people's brains to buy double feature tickets rather than saying this was a serendipitous occurrence where it was just through sheer coincidence and people being witty on the internet just kind of became a meme where they're like i don't know these are two ends of the spectrum that would be kind of interesting rather than being like exor swift huh that'll be i think
Starting point is 01:10:34 a good mashup would be scarface and godfather wouldn't that be great yeah yeah that works at the same time hell yeah i'm i'm wondering though too like in the past i'm sure like there were a ton of weekends like this where you had two movies but we just didn't have the internet to like give it like a new name where i'm sure two like two great films came out at the same time but yeah i'm not so obsessed with the idea or we're at least out at the same time because movies used to stay out for like six months they would be in theaters they were like yeah that's that's all we got for this year folks we made three movies uh we hope you like one of them yeah the other options despicable me 4 opens opposite mufasa the lion king uh which those are just two animated movies for children what the fuck are you guys talking
Starting point is 01:11:22 about but yeah yeah it really feels like people have somehow forgotten that two movies opening on the same day is just a thing that happens literally every single week right like i mean i feel like maybe like back when albums used to come out on tuesdays sometimes you have those like blessed release days you're like yo i'm actually getting two albums today but again it's it's just the release schedule folks and i don't think you want to see this what it is is that you know the first week sales they like really mean a lot and i think it's obviously it's all about the money right so they're just trying to get that they just create that big hype so that people are
Starting point is 01:12:01 just looking at the listings and be like oh that's that's in the top. So that's the top five, top whatever. Let's go check that out. Yeah. What was the one that like Beetlejuice was going to come out like with something else? They were saying, oh, the new Beetlejuice movie might, they might have something with that new Beetlejuice thing coming out at the same time as another movie.
Starting point is 01:12:18 But I already forgot because it doesn't fucking matter. It's two movies fucking coming out. Right. I vaguely remember it, though. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah. I know that. I think I'm sure there's already articles heralding,
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