The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 297 (Best of 10/23/23-10/27/23)

Episode Date: October 29, 2023

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These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a creative and political activist who hosts Beyond the Pale and WBAI in New York. A must listen these days. Always a must listen, but especially of late. Is a caucus member of Jews for Racial and Economic Justice. Co-founder of its electoral arm, The Jewish Vote. Please welcome back to the show, Raphael Shimano!

Hello, hello, hello, hello. Glad to be back. Yeah, it's good to have you, man. What's up, Raphael? How you doing, man? It's good, you know, considering gestures to the world. Yeah. Doing okay.

But trying to... It's so weird. I think a lot of people feel this, but when the world is like this, you're supposed to sometimes lock it out and do your job job. And it just seems really challenging to get into normal modes like doing laundry

while you should be in the streets in what feels like all the time right now. Yeah. You've been in these streets recently arrested and for your work trying to get chuck schumer to help bring about a ceasefire yeah and to convince his niece to stop acting and stop comedy. That's the first ask. Amy Schumer's social media posts. Yeah, watching the social media masks slip

on. Oh, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa. All right. Well, we're going to get into all of that. Plenty more. But first, we do like to get to know you a little bit better by asking you what is something from your search history that's really learned about who you are? I don't know. The thing I always do, and it's probably always the last thing, is always,

I'm a bad speller. So it's every random word to just get the Google auto-correct and then use that. It's a really boring last search term but it's what i need i uh that's my my lifesaver over there what's uh what's the what word you're getting hung up on uh one is always like so now i developed a nomadic device to remember this one principal versus principal pal and i realized like you know the principal of the school wants to be your pal right yeah but don't trust that motherfucker yeah but you just picture the principal of the school wants to be your pal right yeah but don't trust that motherfucker yeah but you just picture the principal of the school turning his bat his baseball cap around backwards hey raf i want to talk to you yeah raf i want to talk to you about some of your instagram posts my man come on into my office my dude

there you go my god everyone's gonna know how to how to spell that yeah that's like i always get like the same thing with a capital like a capital versus a capital building yeah i don't know the difference well i still see that one get through like in like established i guess at this quote unquote outlets for journalism and i'm like you can't fuck that up now yeah i certainly can can you tell me how you keep it straight because this principal shit is gonna save my ass every time i know i mean words i just the toll toll ol is always the building you know that's how because i for whom the bell tolls right Right. Yeah. I guess the buildings around like an, Oh,

you could do that. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. But I think I only remembered it cause I only saw capital written as a kid first. And then when that new one, Hey,

capital. It's like method now. Yeah. Cap to cow. So I, the, I used to get desert and dessert mixed up. Cal. Cal. How's it over here? So I, the, I used to get desert and dessert mixed up.

And then a girl I was dating, it's like, well, you always want more dessert and dessert has two S's. Wow. Nobody wants more desert. Yeah. So once. Yeah.

So there you go. We just, we just spun off a new podcast yeah yeah there you go also roll uh when you're when something is rolling uh two l's you know it's the l's get on a roll yeah so that's you know and this this could be the whole show matthew mcconaugust hey what do you know there it is yeah all right what are you doing to write Matthew McConaugust so often? We were doing it. There was a run.

Oh, when he was talking about running for office. And we were fully in support of it. So we had headlines such as why not now? McConaugust Hay, why not now? McConaugust Hay. McConaughey, why not now? McConaughey.

Yeah. McConaughey, how about this handsome fella? I do like to watch his scene in Wolf of Wall Street on a somewhat regular basis. The vocal warm-up right into him just fully embodying everybody I know who has ever worked on Wall Street. It's amazing. Patron saint of Wall Street br Street. Yeah. It's amazing. Patron saint of Wall Street Bros. Yeah.

What is something you think is overrated? Because it's spooky movie season, I think Ari Aster as a filmmaker is a bit overrated. Ooh. He's the Midsommar. Midsommar midsommar hereditary and then the one that came out most recently beau is afraid afraid didn't see that one i think that he let me clarify i think he is good at making a horror movie that makes me feel very scared and unsettled. Because I saw both Midsommar and Hereditary in theaters, and they were effective horror movies in that I felt miserable and scared the whole time.

Yeah, it's not enough to just be scared. You want to feel worse, just like bad in general, like you've got a flu or something. Full body aches i have an emotional i left mid uh no i left hereditary with like a migraine headache because i was just so tense and like right hell yeah but i don't think he's a good storyteller i think he's a good director and i think he gets good performances and i know i think he's like good at i I think he gets good performances. And I know I think he's like good at, I guess maybe, is he overrated? I don't know. I just think he's, I don't like his screenplays.

Like, I think he's not a good storyteller. I think they're kind of sloppy. I think that he doesn't know how to write women really at all. Like, you know, there's, and he, like his treatment of mental health and mental illness is really not good anyway it's really like i think there's a lot of filmmakers like that now who are they have all the power and the thing they choose to do with that power is to just like be like i'm gonna do my own little stories and they would be like so much better off just you know finding finding other people's stories to tell yeah or like i don't know send your draft to someone and get some notes well he doesn't need him because i saw that thing martin scorsese is like the pacing from killers of the flower moon

is like inspired by midsommar and he's like ari aster is the fucking goat and i'm like i wonder what that means for this oh yeah this guy's never gonna not make his own screenplays after that one after this yeah yeah you're goodbye to any chance but like scorsese spielberg kubrick like those people all made other people's screenplays like those yeah you know you can still be a good filmmaker and not just write bad screenplays make your own like the two or however many scripts that steven spielberg wrote are like not very good he's a far better director than he is a screenwriter so what are his i actually didn't even know the oh let me look it up here i I used to know this, but...

AI, I think? Oh, maybe. AI was a collaboration with Kubrick, which also, yeah, like maybe... Yeah, it's by Spielberg, and then the story by Ian Watson, Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Right.

That's written and directed by Spielberg. Oh, and he wrote The Fablemans, which tracks because it's like pretty autobiographical, but makes sense. I like didn't like that movie very much. And then Goonies is Chris Columbus based on a story by Spielberg. I will. I will give him that one. I think Holtergeist is good. But that's also three people writing with a story by Spielberg yeah i didn't realize until very recently that richard donner made goonies like directed goonies i always thought it was christopher columbus because he wrote the screenplay richard donner like really was responsible for my entire

childhood with like superman goonies and lethal weapon which i saw way too young. I was like, those are like my three favorite movies, dog. My three favorite movies, dog. Yeah, those hit pretty, pretty hard. What is something you think is underrated? Apparently, we've been severely underrating the money-making potential of movies for adults. Right. The Scorsese film did very well last week, and now it had an incredibly high budget,

but it performed very well. And obviously, this is coming off the summer when the Oppenheimer movie, a biopic of freaking Robert Oppenheimer, made nearly a billion dollars worldwide, made more than any of the recent Marvel movies has made. There is clearly, they have clearly created a void of demand for movies for grownups. And it's because once upon a time, the narrative was, well, it's just, it's just Tom Cruise,

the last movie star. He's the only one keeping it aloft. It's like, no, not really. The last Mission Impossible movie did not do well. But there clearly are adults who want to go out to the theater with their families or and not watch the Mario Brothers movie. They want to see something for for grownups that looks good on a big screen. Some adults want to see the Mario Brothers movie. OK, laugh.

Mario was probably a movie. Chris Pratt's a fucking genius, man. His voice was fine. How does he do those voices? He just disappears into every role. Hey, it's me, Mario. Oh my God, Chris. You've done it again,

shapeshifter. Yeah, it's the Oppenheimer thing is worth like, yeah, at the time it was part of this Barbenheimer, Boppenheimer phenomenon that, yeah, I feel like we rushed past the fact that a biopic of Robert Oppenheimer made almost a billion dollars. That's doesn't really make sense and doesn't cohere to any form of Hollywood logic. to any form of Hollywood logic, you know? Is it just because it's Nolan and when you have a filmmaker? But like, when Stanley Kubrick was making movies, like people weren't rushing out to see them

like it was a blockbuster, you know? Like this feels like it's a new phenomenon that we haven't really seen, like a director who anything he puts out is just like, that's going to make a billion dollars. And it can be like a dry ass, you know, look at, and not, not that this was like a dry, boring movie, but it's, it's pretty remarkable and very adult of us. And I must compliment we, the movie going public. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you.

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Schumer's house, getting arrested, that there was a story from the bus that NYPD put you guys on the bus after. And there's a story about a Werther's original and about a wedding song that just like kind of warmed my heart and gave me something to warm my heart in a place that I wasn't expecting necessarily to have my heart warmed. Can you talk about those two stories? Yeah. So we were in front of Chuck Schumer's house to push him to back the ceasefire legislation that's coming out, that already has come out since then by Cori Bush and Rashida Tlaib and others. already has come out since then by Cori Bush and Rashida Tlaib and others. And he's used to people in front of his house. And he also heard about it. So the police were ready. So what we had to do was block the streets in Grand Army Plaza,

which is a big plaza that's like a major artery in Brooklyn where he lives. And that's where we were arrested. I think over 53 of us or so. And of course, we were put in these buses NYPD likes to commandeer MTA buses when they have a mass arrest and and that's what they did here and they were basically pulling us into the bus blocking the traffic and it's Brooklyn so half the people we block the traffic for we're like cheering us and recording and putting it on social media.

So we were going into the bus and I realized I sit down cuffed in this bus and everyone because police here pretty much are obsessed with arresting people for jumping fares, not paying fares. And everyone just started singing a song, like, like just calling them out for all like, not only commandeering a bus for free, but all of them just walking in for free, which is they actually Yeah, there was a story where we were was with me and a friend and this woman, an older woman, amazing, adorable activist. Her name is, we call her Roz, but her name is Rosalind Pachesky. And she's a very like long time and very involved member of Jewish Voice for Peace, JVP, which was part of that coalition of left Jewish people and activists that were confronting, it was like 2000 people came out to confront Schumer on this. And they bring her into the bus. And she sits down and you imagine like maybe a five foot tall, like sweet grandma. And she's walking in and sits down her hands are behind her back and what we realize is that she's not really cuffed like she's somehow waiting to get a cuff which is pro move

yeah yeah put your hands behind your back immediately and they'll assume that you've been I don't think the story of like why she was cuffed or why maybe someone felt bad for her. They didn't cover. I don't know. But the thing is, she's like has her hands behind her back. Everyone thinks she's cuffed. And there's this Zoran. Zoran's Muslim.

And one of the few or only actually Muslim elected in that state assembly. He's just like, you know, sitting there. We're all like in pain with these cuffs. And he just does the most Jewish motherly kind of amazing thing, which is you just see her hand. You see him and her kind of look and wait till the cops are looking the other way. And then her hand slips out from her back, goes into a bag and takes out a candy, which I immediately realize is a Werther's original.

Yeah, it is. which I immediately realized is a Werther's original. Yeah, it is. Yes. And Zoran, without a word, turns around, opens his mouth, and she feeds him this candy and makes her hand back in behind her like she's a cuff. And it just was the most amazing thing. And for someone like me who often has a camera on him,

it was really, so I'm telling, I'm going to, I'm reaching Molly Crabapple with this story. She's the, I think you all know about her. She's this amazing illustrator. And I want to have this illustrated because to me, it was this magical moment.

And I know, and while I'm experiencing that moment, I mean, were there's original, like, were there commercials like this? Like, didn't we grow up with,

were there's original commercials like this? Not like in a bus getting arrested. Right. When people are protesting. It would have been way more lit. Yeah, it would. commercials like this like didn't we grow up with werther's original commercials like this not like in a bus getting arrested right when people are protesting would have been way more lit and they're like hey yeah you know what's going on but it was like typically like an older elder or someone yeah an elder showing love yeah yeah that is and none of us were ever excited by where there's original no but like in that situation hell yeah like the brand is strong i didn't even know it's still around but i could use one right now but yeah i don't know like yeah so that that's like the story that's like the ones there's so many stories of

wherever you go with her he's a powerful figure that brings a lot of history with her she was a cuny professor and reproductive rights scholar back in the day when like no one was that yeah she's incredible and then there was this other i think uh the other story you're referring to is while i'm like while we're kind of like looking down and we were like shaking the bus we were like giving the cops a really hard time. And during that moment, one of my, someone at Jews for Racial and Economic Justice, their new political director, he came on the bus. And I guess enough of us knew Alicia actually got married that day, earlier that day. That day. That day, Alicia had her marriage and decided that her honeymoon was going to be getting arrested with us.

And so people just started stomping and singing. And it's a bustle of Jews. So it was like the Jewish wedding song. It was so beautiful. So dope. I even caught a cop, like put his hand on his heart and everyone's like, stamp something. It was so beautiful. It's so dope. I even caught a cop, like, put his hand on his heart and just be like, aw. I was like, wait, are you pretending? Right.

He's like, do y'all need some chairs for the whore? Like, what? Take these cuffs? Sorry, sorry. Yeah, he's been to, it looked like he'd been to a jewish wedding and um you know those are just like the two beautiful things that happen in this kind of movement space where where people come out for real shit and still we find like joy and friendship and stuff and these things and those long conversations we have in jail cells and sitting on a jail cell and seeing the carvings of

like act up uh uh etched on the thing and and and one day 20 years from now someone else sitting there seeing the etchings of blm on the chairs and just getting that that energy from from this long arc you know yeah i don't know that story and just generally the movement that you're involved in is such a beautiful testament to the Jewish faith that like, I don't know, like a Baptist in the South or Catholicism. It was solid with the Quakers. Solid with the Quakers for a while. But I've always admired the Jewish faith and feel like this is a time when people, like the things that are getting talked about are this violent Zionism or anti-Semitism.

It's like, yeah, no. Like, what about these stories? You know? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. But you were also there for a story that came up on the show in D, the action on the rotunda. And the question that we were asking on this show is where the fuck was the FBI, man? More evidence that the deep state

has a massive left wing bias. Am I right? I mean, there was, yeah, like Marjorie Taylor Green said, this is an insurrection with that same energy, which was really baffling to see when truly we're seeing people come together to advocate for peace. There's this Fox clip that I should send you, and it's them wondering how we got in and how we did it. And then the Fox journalist, actually, who was on the ground, was kind of like honest. And he was just like, oh, they got in by just going through the metal detector and saying that they're coming to practice free speech. And that's our free speech laws. They were trying to make it into this big thing. Like, right.

People looked away. So did Antifa open the doors for them? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Antifa opened the doors for them to enter. Yeah, exactly. But it was just like anyone can go into the Rotunda and meet their congressmember and talk.

You could literally talk to their staff. You pass by AOCs, you see a bunch of Post-its on the wall. She's like the rock star in Congress. So all these Post-its showing their adoration and support of AOC. And it's kind of cool. But just like, so what's the difference between that and what happened on January 6th? it's like showing their adoration and support of AOC and it's kind of, it's kind of cool. But just like, so,

so what's the difference between that and what happened on January 6th? Like, that's why I was like, Oh, just because you guys weren't ripping things off the wall and chanting that you wanted to hang, hang the vice president. That's, that's why you're allowed in.

That's fucked up. Yeah. The rotunda is the pub. It's the, it's basically the public door for the public. Come on. How'd you get this cheat code that you weren't supposed

to rip things off the wall and threaten to kill the sitting vice president? There was two actions in D.C. One was led by If Not Now, and that was sealing all the entrances and exits to the White House, which the Secret Service arrested people for. And then this event a couple of days later

for Congress, and that was to really just take over the rotunda. And what happened was there was 10,000 people outside supporting us, 500 went in and together uh that was the largest uh jewish action for palestinians uh in history anywhere in the world wow yeah can you describe what what if not now is just for anybody who doesn't know oh so so there's two groups really largely at play here one is if not now and if not now so jv i'll start with jvp jewish voice for peace because it's older it's like three decades old and it started of course with in solidarity with palestinians so it's very much like their orientation is like go to the front line of who's being affected by the occupation and apartheid and let them lead and we be their Jewish allies, their comrades, you know, and

that's a beautiful model. And then if not now, it's okay. Another level, not in competition or anything, but like that identifying that there's also something in our culture and how we were raised that needs to be addressed and that we need to unlearn the things that we were raised with throughout our lives. And so it's very much inward, and it's very much more youth-oriented, at least initially, and then also really specifically about ending American Jewish support for apartheid and occupation. Yeah.

And I've seen so many wild, I've seen people call Jewish Voices for Peace a terrorist group like some really awful shit it's wild or like and i and raf since i've known you and like you've come on the show like we've had a lot of conversations where your work in you know standing up and or being in solidarity with the people of palestine has opened you up to all kinds of attacks like that people would accuse you of being like self of self-hatred and things like that i'm really curious especially for you who's so involved in this and is looking at it through the perspective you are like what that's been like to watch watch

these things unfold the last few weeks and begin to see these rifts open up in really really dramatic ways and and you know like what that process is to to sort of look on and say like so like some of us are here others are completely there yeah how do you like what how do we make sense of it that's such a good question and there's still so many open sure things that we're learning like right now there is a if you saw the statistics there is a huge difference depending on your age and where you fall. And this issued either as an American of any faith or no faith or as a Jew. But I think if not now, and JVP had shifted the paradigm and made it safer for a lot of people to be able to say, why am I being called anti-Semitic if these Jews also believe what I believe?

And then also we do that too. Like we say, why are we called self-hating Jews if Israel's largest human rights organization calls it apartheid? And there's a whole society called Breaking the Silence who are veterans in Israel who oppose the occupation. Many of them had even refused to serve and spent jail time refusing to serve. And it continues today. And these are like teenagers or early 20-year-olds.

So there's all this kind of layers upon layers of people seeking safety through validation. And it's kind of sad because what results for Palestinians is that I think you've probably seen all these super clips online. And that is when Palestinians are brought onto news shows, they're not asked about if their family's okay, who they lost, what they fear. They're asked if they support terrorism.

Do you condemn them? Yeah, exactly. And it's really, and then some of the Palestinian guests and experts and journalists would say, oh, by the way, my uncle died and my niece is missing and X, Y, Z, thanks for asking. You know what I mean? And they would just go, they would just pivot back to Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, which, like, it's just like becoming this thing where it's just gross. And also when they do speak about anything

with Israel and Palestine, a Palestinian has to be like a PhD in European antisemitism in order not to say something that's triggering. And I understand those triggers, but also there's almost zero grace for Palestinians to just even mourn or speak for their own security. Yeah. Yeah, we got this article in the LA Times over the weekend

about how the left has really let us down. I mean, we've gotten this article over and over again. It's like, yeah, it's millennials are killing x industry is the left is really there this week it's this thing and like they're going to be able to find anti-semitism on the left because there's anti-semitism everywhere like anti-semitism is a is a huge problem but in this context as you're as you're there involved in this struggle for peace, it seems like you've seen something quite different from anti-Semitism being on the ground for these protests and these actions.

Yeah, we like to say peace and justice, right? Like peace, because a lot of people define peace. And I think peace is the right word, but a lot of people have redefined peace to mean quiet. And like, you know, there's no there's no, there's no rally, as I can tell, for Black Lives Matter right now on the street that's very large right now. But that doesn't mean there's there's peace, right? There's still those things are still happening every day. So I guess I like to remind folks to also say justice part, because peace in Gaza is four hours of electricity a day, calorie counting by Israel to not allow too much food in, water limitations, a blockade around every wall, no travel restrictions. It's just open-air prison. And a lot of people define the day before that horrendous attack by Hamas on civilians, a lot of people define that day before that as peace.

And, yeah. Anti-Semitism, yeah, another thing is, like, it's very easy to kind of assume anti-Semitism is like in the water, in the air. And it's really, it's something that's manufactured by the right. And it was created by the right in Europe in order to remove, to create like a middle manager, like to create. so the core of racism is this like supremacy ethnic supremacy and and for example the idea that someone exists like martin luther king or nelson mandela or something exists like black culture defining global culture for decades and decades all of these amazing accomplishments all the inventions all the, all the inventions, all the things, all the scientific breakthroughs that any Black person does negates the idea of white supremacy. So a useful tool to undo that is the idea of this mystical Jewish person, be it Soros or whoever, is behind the success of black people. It's behind the migrant, you know, like the idea that America is this immigrant, a beacon for immigration and

all these things. And so it's a really useful tool to A, redirect like financial pain and suffering from capitalism to a group of people and also to protect the idea of the myth of white supremacy yeah and i guess like what i'm seeing on the streets to your question finally what i'm seeing on the streets i do see occasionally anti-semitic thing i will see and sometimes most the time, I'll call the person in and be like, hey, they'll be like, the Jewish state. This is what the Jewish state does. And I'll be like, well, do you mean the Israeli state? Or do you mean the Jewish state?

And then they're like, oh, I didn't think about that. But had they said that in front of a New York Post reporter, that would be on the front page and would be used to define DSA, would be used to define anything and try to destroy the left. And what I saw in Israel, there is an Arab town, I forget the name right now, there's an Arab town that after the attacks welcomed Jewish refugees. And the history of that Arab town was it was the site of the most horrific massacre by Jews, of Palestinians, of Arabs in that town. And they still are opening their doors to the families affected by that attack by Hamas. You know, you're seeing these things on the street, and you're basically going to find what you're looking for. And the question is,

what are you amplifying and what are you using to define an entire thing with? Yeah, because I've seen how useful that sort of the left is anti-Semitic like that, how that take has been used by like establishment Democrats and shit to completely try and take the wind out of the sails or question the validity of people pointing out that the the ills of palestinian people living under occupation and then just being able to sort of use this like thought killing cliche to be like well they're all anti-semitic so let's now back to our person on the ground from the idf that is going to tell us

exactly what's happening now and yeah like i like I, I, I see how, like, in a way, like for establishment politics too, like this has been used to being like, oh, we can also sort of try and kneecap a movement as well by bringing it into this, you know, a very skewed perspective that they want to show. Absolutely. Absolutely. And also what I saw the difference in, in our protests, the Jewish ones, the police were like there. And they threw a lot of people around and did this stuff.

But when I went to the Palestinian youth protest in front of the Israeli embassy in D.C. on that Friday night, it was riot gear. It was cars parked in ways. There was also this guy, infamous cop, I forget his name, but he's known to have killed a BLM protester, and he's just walking around. It was so different, and these were to kids. And it was wild that these kids in this little residential neighborhood

of this very secure Israeli embassy were met with riot cops versus us in the heart of the power of the United States and the most sensitive part of the world. And we were just, you know, singing into a bus, you know? Right. Yeah. Let's, uh, let's take a quick break and we'll come back. We'll keep talking about this. We'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

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there did either of you play it? I never played it, but I remember that was the first video game I ever saw like playthrough YouTube videos for. Okay. I've, I never played it, but when we were both working at Playboy, Jamie,

when I was doing video there, there was like a video series with two playmates that are gamers. And I remember I had to like produce a shoot with that and i was like what the fuck and i was like oh this game is fucking freaky uh but i'm not into horror as a like a genre but i have seen it played and like at the time this was like the biggest shit like i think it came out in 2014 yeah yeah it's like a you know huge huge like indie game yeah it was i didn't even realize it was an indie game because of how like yeah that was the first time i had ever like encountered that as a thing that happened and

thought it was isolated and then you know obviously i've never stopped seeing it but it's i mean haunted animatronics a great idea and the guy who invented the Chuck E. Cheese animatronics, very racist. Like, don't fuck with this guy. However, he, at least as recently as a couple of years ago, still had this warehouse in Florida where the animatronics were once made and was really trying to capitalize on the success of Five Night Freddy. Because he basically lived in a haunted animatronics palace. So he started selling the Five Night Freddy birthday party

experience with his scary old animatronics. And it seemed to be somewhat successful. I mean, the real diehard fans, there's a reason why it became a Blumhouse film. It's because, yeah, definitely. There is an audience. There's an absolute audience for it. What could that possibly mean? That's so interesting. Well, that's like a big thing that like, as the reviews come in, like there's a whole debate where some people are like,

it's not really for casuals, man. Like if you don't fuck like, or some people are like, there's not enough lore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is wild. Like, and I'm like, it's interesting following the reaction

because like anything, when you have a huge, like when a fandom gets to that point, we're now like a blumhouse or major studios like yeah let's see if we can make money off of this it's always interesting to see how like inevitably the fans will be disappointed i think it's just generally what's always going to happen like it's there's only a few instances where you have something with like a huge mega following take that next jump to like major film distribution and it be you know palatable

I was kind of because I didn't see I kind of forgot it was coming out until I they showed the trailer at Saw X and I was like damn they got Hutcherson and my friend was like I don't think that's hard to do

wait what did you just say yeah damn josh hudgerson's like what like in the seat in front of you 2012 yeah you need something i i did see josh hudgerson getting into a very quiet argument with his girlfriend in front of a restaurant near my house once so it is like not that hard to yeah to get h But I was like, I don't know. Maybe I just like went 2012 brain for a second where like, I'm like, damn, they got Hutcherson. Five Night Freddy is huge. Yeah.

It's bigger than Hunger Games. Yeah. Yeah. There's something about the minds of people who are like scared of animatronics, I guess, or like into, I don't know because the the writer of the original indie game also like a right-wing person god what is it with animatronics and being a piece of shit i think because they're like techno slaves or some shit probably you know yeah it's like i make them do what i say and i can make you in my image like i don't know that's probably some weird god complex

yeah yeah i can see that level but hey i would love to see where the where the woke animatronics what I say and I can make you in my image. That's probably some weird God complex. I would love to see where the woke animatronic studio is at. There's certainly woke animatronic fans, but we're not technically minded, unfortunately. You're just there for the commentary.

We are topping out for Five Nights at Freddy's. We are topping out for five nights at freddy's we are topping out uh on metacritic so the overall metacritic score is 29 an average of 29 and we're topping out usually usually you will get like one or two that's like hey i actually enjoyed this because i was like my meds are dialed in or something you. You know, like sometimes I just enjoy the hell out of them. Like one of my favorite film going experience was Die Hard 4 for no reason other than I was just in a good mood that day. Good place in your life. Yeah, good place in my life.

Loved that movie the first time I saw it. And then I watched it again. I was like, oh, this is bad. Right, right, right. But like this is at, we're topping out at two out of five stars. Most of them are lower than that average. And this like not all reviews are in, but it's it seems pretty dismal. And everyone's saying it's boring.

Yeah. It's not boring. Yeah. I mean, even like the fans, like there's a guy who would like stream it on YouTube. Like this guy, Jackseptic guyye like his review is like it is not great sort of like the nice version and and a lot of people like you made a lot of five nights at freddy content but again i think that's where like you see a lot of you know other other fans come in and be like it's just people aren't gonna understand it it's not for normies but then this

guy who like plays the game a ton is like, just felt rushed in some spots. Other parts, it just was very normal. Like did not feel like as, you know, original as like the game, the original idea is itself. So you see the trailer, you're like, oh, they got Hutcherson. But they got Hutcherson. But like now I'm kind of embarrassed because Hutcherson knows like what I'm into and like they

did such a bad job with the lore that right now like i'm like they shouldn't have done this to hutcherson or us or matthew lillard you know matthew they got they got lillard they got another thing i mean yeah mary stewart masterson you know kind of a star-studded cast. I was really impressed with the cast. I love that they got Lillard. I feel like Lillard played the game. That's my guess, is that Lillard was into it. Hutcherson, I don't know of his hobbies. I don't know.

His agents were like, hey, man, you're going to have to say yes to this. We got bad news. You have to be the lead in Five Night Freddy. You're Five Night Freddy. You're Five Night Freddy. You're Five Night Freddy. You're Freddy. Yeah, you're Night Freddy because nobody was fucking with Journey to the Center of the Earth 2.

Oh, God. He was in that. It's a bummer that we would eat at the same ramen place. It's like when I saw Taylor Lautner at a bar I go to. And you're just like, this sucks. Recently? It was like when I saw Taylor Lautner at a bar I go to and you're just like, this is this sucks. Recently? It's like five years ago.

So I think that. Well, yeah, but I mean, like post like super high twilight peak. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like a place where you get like, you know, three dollar backwash. I'm like, why the hell is Taylor Lautner here drinking three dollar backwash with the plebs? Was he doing that thing where he had his back to the bar looking out at the bar he was holding court he was holding court it was really cool like he bought rounds he he was holding court he had no issue with you knowing he

was drinking backwash at the bar which is cool that's a cool quality he was with i think his girlfriend now his wife, also named Taylor. That's not very cool, I don't think. Wait, he married a Taylor? Yeah. Yeah. No, they're the Taylors Lautner. They're both Taylor Lautner. Yeah.

That's incredible. Should we talk about the Britney Spears memoir? Ugh. The audio book? Have you guys listened? Yeah. I have. Slowly, I've just slowly seen some like excerpts get sort of

elevated to the top but obviously i think the big one with the release of the audio book was everyone sharing the clip of michelle what michelle williams doing an impression of justin timberleg doing a black scent yeah it's what it's a lot have you not? No. Jamie, for someone who is so online, I'm like, James, this is old hat for Jamie. I'm sure. OK, so I was I was trying to I was like, let's see how long I because I was like, I want to read it. And I also was waiting for an episode of Chelsea Devantez's podcast about it. I was like, and then I'll engage. Oh, yeah.

So just one excerpt, you know, like this is one loose line that's like blowing up where she's first of all like britney spears is talking about why she was fucking with in sync over backstreet boys she's like in sync like they listen to hip-hop like they seem more oriented towards that kind of culture where the backstreet boys felt very white i'm just gonna we'll just play this clip really quick because they're all white guys from florida and like yeah and what is that like by the same guy let's not forget ch Chris with his techno dreads either. But hey, let's focus on Justin here. But yeah, this is a this is one of the excerpts here just talking about this time where he met another famous R&B musician.

So the other thing, like a lot of people are pointing out, like this seems Michelle Williams is a five time Academy Award nominee. People are like, why is she doing this? And then they're listening and they're like, oh, she's the best that has ever done this before. She's killing it. She's doing a great job. So, yeah, this is a little sample of that. And it's an anecdote that a lot of it's caught a lot of people's attention. His band NSYNC was what people back then called So Pimp. sample of that and it's an anecdote that a lot of it's caught a lot of people's attention his band

in sync was what people back then called so pimp they were white boys but they loved hip-hop to me that's what separated them from the backstreet boys who seemed very consciously to position themselves as a white group in sync hung out with black artists sometimes i thought they tried too hard to fit in one day jay and i were in new New York going to parts of town I'd never been to before. Walking our way was a guy with a huge blinged out medallion. He was flanked by two giant security guards. Jay got all excited and said so loud, oh yeah, fo shiz, fo shiz, genuine, what's up homie? After genuine walked away, Felicia did an impression of jay

oh yeah for shoes for shoes genuine jay wasn't even embarrassed wow i like the there's like a yada yada pass that i'm sure they had an interaction but it kind of suggests that genuine just he did that and genuine just walked away yeah it was like oh my god the fuck is that the abrupt switch after the like the audiobook pause before genuine walked away like you're just oh my god after genuine walked away she's a professional yeah she's good professional that alarming i'm i'm looking forward to uh to reading that book or probably more likely listening to it celebrity memoirs are meant to be listened to especially oh yeah because i'm pretty sure what britney spears personally was like i need i want michelle williams to narrate this like this is why this

is happening so very weird very weird how do they know each other dialed in so well though what better person to lend your voice that are to have their like let have them lend their voice and have michelle williams do the britney spears book so good maybe she'll get the egot yeah maybe she will this is her grammy yeah. Yeah. God. Beautiful. There's, I mean, there's all sorts of, there's also the story that Britney Spears almost got, what was the famous role that she almost? Oh, The Notebook. The Notebook.

Yeah. She almost was cast in The Notebook. She was like in the final three. Yeah. It was between, no, she was in the final two. It was between her and rachel mcadams and like they like scarlett johansson all these other people had tried out and they were like britney spears is like fucking nailing this she's like really absolutely like an amazing actor oh wow there's like her

audition tape is available yeah that's so cool. I think they camera tested with Ryan, too. Yeah. I always want, I mean, I know that there were a number of extenuating circumstances in Britney's life that, but I was, her movie career was like a non-starter. And up until recently, you couldn't even get Crossroads. Like, you couldn't even stream it until recently, even though that was like an early Shonda Rhimes script. Oh, I didn't realize that. Yeah, that was like one. I think it was like Shonda Rhimes, one of Shonda Rhimes like first produced scripts ever was the Britney Spears vehicle Crossroads.

And she's so good in it. And she's so charming. And like, she's a good actor and it's like they're it worked out for mandy moore many more kind of dropped music and started this is a singer i still don't know what that show is about but damn she would have been cool in the notebook yeah yeah because what shonda rhimes also did she didn't she do princess diaries 2 that was like another super early one yeah yeah yeah yeah that was after crossroads yeah you're right yeah pre-crossroads and if i'm recalling i i know i i know too much of shonda's uh

filmography i think it's just shy of it's like the year before gray's anatomy she did princess diaries to royal engagement yep sure enough it is true It is true. It is true. But I'm like, what is Shonda's relationship with Britney? Is there one? We don't know. We don't know. What could have been, you know, if she was Meredith Gray? Yeah. Yeah. Right. But then it's like we would have been I mean, and again, this is like not even taking into account what happens later in Britney's career. But like we would have we would have not gotten some really solid Britney albums if she if she had gone too far into acting. So, yeah, when she talks about it, she's like, you know, at a certain point I decided to stop auditioning and just record, just drop classic albums on you all. just drop classic albums on you all instead if yeah if we got because if we got like if if we got britney in the notebook we may not have gotten blackout and that would have been

challenging right for me as a youth for american culture that would have been pretty hard you think america's bad right now you think amer America's bad right now? Try and picture this counterfactual. But yeah, and also she has a quote, like in one of the articles I read about the notebook thing that she was like, it was just mentally too difficult. Like I just embodied the character and like trying out for that character,

like got to me so like she was almost like too method for to to like actually pursue acting because it was just like too painful for her god I love that which sounds like a great actor like yeah let's make it happen yeah it's funny too like because Justin Timberlake does not come out looking good in this too like she talks about how like she became pregnant like with his child and then you know had to have an abortion and things like that and then like now it's funny to see the pr machine move in justin's direction and they're like justin timberlake is fine he's actually just focusing on being with his family like amid the noise amid them when it's also like pretty well documented that his family does not like him.

Right. So cool. I'm sure they're really enjoying spending time with you on this, your 50th cancellation. I was trying to think of, you know, like because of sad gruels, I'm like, I have to think of like a Halloween costume I can wear. And I have a lot of I can pretty close to replicate the justin timberlake denim outfit and so i'm trying to put something together like recently disgraced denim boyfriend but it's getting the hat together because then i you know and and then i was just going to put you know tear streaks some snot shit like that recently disgraced denim boyfriend that's a

that's so good you got to get those gradient shades, too. Oh, my God. Yeah. Like the yellow, the freaky late 90s blue blockers. Yeah. Yeah. Yo, it's so wild. Like that outfit.

There's like tutorials on how to make the disgraced denim boyfriend outfit. Like it's like how to make your denim Britney and Justin outfit. Good lord. What a time. What a time. I mean, horrible man, great outfits. Britney, God bless her. She's the best.

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