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really yeah so most of my searches are about my son because I'm worried about things like constantly and uh-huh concerned with everything that he does. What does your son have to do with the Chicago Fire? Well, good question. His favorite shows are Curious George and another one called PJ Maxx and then Chicago Fire. He's two. Oh, the TV show. The TV show Chicago Fire, not the-

The great Chicago Fire of 1904. Not the Cal one. Not that, okay. That's so strange. It's very strange. And I didn't know if it was a weird... I'm always concerned

that it's something. Yeah. And so I want to check in with the internet and make sure that it's not... Which is probably the worst place you should go

for that kind of thing. But I was just checking to see if there were other kids who were... Like other parents would be like, oh yeah, my kid loves Chicago PD.

Yeah. All the Chicago shows. Chicago Med is really where my kid's at. But yeah, Chicago Fire, I think it's just because there's firemen in it. Right. But it's, I mean, firemen make up, the actual firefighting in that show makes up about 13% of that show, but he's just riveted by the dialogue and everything. Really?

It's so weird. He won't watch any other live action television, but Chicago Fire, he's on. Did you ever have to get through the Terrific Trucks period? Did you ever watch Terrific Trucks? I have, yeah. That show is terrible. That is my son's favorite thing right now. There's some really, really bad ones.

There's one called NutraVentures that's maybe the worst animation I've ever seen. And I still don't understand the plot of it. I've seen maybe 40 episodes of it. And it's some kids who are into nutrition, but they go through a bunch of different realms of reality to solve crimes that have nothing to do with nutrition. Really? Child nutritionist. It might be a Canadian show.

It's on Ion Television. I did find out that Terrific Trucks is, in fact, a Canadian television, which is weird. I miss when there was just weird perverted adults that were talking to children directly on television all day, like Pappyland style. Did you guys watch Pappyland? I know what Pappyland is, yeah. Yeah. We had a cartoon called, maybe it was just in Denver, called Blinky.

You should look at the face of Blinky. He was a clown, and he looked kind of like a hobo clown, but it was just that. It was just him talking directly to you. Yeah. I just want a perverted adult to talk to me about sharing for 20 minutes every day. Pappy drew it.

I had nightmares about Pappy drew it for a long time. Really? He was an old man in a cowboy suit who hung out with a bunch of animatronic bears, and then he'd be like, make sure to brush your teeth. It was so scary. Yeah, brush them.

Get in there. I bet he's dead. Anyways. It's always fun to think about. Yeah, I wonder how, like I was watching old Sesame Street yesterday and wondering what happened to the old- timey actors who were in that. A lot of them are still on it, aren't they?

Oh, from the 70s. I don't know. From my childhood, a lot of them are still there. Really? Yeah. Gordon is still on it and Bob is still on it. Gordon's like the OG too, right? He's been on for like 40 years or something.

There's one. I remember like when I was little, one of the old time cast members died and then they had to talk about death on screen. Oh, Blinky. Blinky's terrible. Everybody had Bozo the Clown, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That show sucked.

That was really a bad show. Sorry, Jamie, I interrupted you. Blinky. Does my memory's wipe? I have seven days to live. Well, fortunately, I just had Picture Pages, which was Bill Cosby, who, as we know, was not a pervert. Oh, very cool guy. Yeah, very chill guy.

Very good with kids. Yes. Pappy Druitt is regretfully still alive. Is he like one of those old people who was actually not as old as they played? Like the elder, like what's her name on Golden Girls? Yeah, like I would have guessed he was a million when I was five and watching him. But turns out he was more like 50. Yeah.

Right, right. Turns out I don't know how to spell Papi Druitt because I just tried to look it up and it still got papaya fruit. It's Papi Druitt of Papi Land. That's up and it still got papaya fruit. It's Pappy Druitt of Pappyland. That's a disgusting name for a children's show. That sounds like a crime. Let's talk about Permit Patty, guys. There was a video that went viral over the weekend and we're going to listen to a little audio from it.

This woman don't want to let a little girl sell some water. She calling police on an eight-year-old little girl you can hide all you want the whole world gonna see you boo yeah and um illegally selling water without a permit on my property it's not your property on my property um yeah she owns the that that street of san francisco right um so yeah there's if you haven't seen the video, there's a pissed off looking woman on the street, you know, on her cell phone. Not to be confused with a barbecue Becky.

Barbecue Becky. Now we have permit Patty. Called the police on an eight-year-old little girl who was selling water without an official license. Yeah. Just a bad look all around, but just like looks. Well, not all around. Just good looks on the person who was filming it's side.

Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a bad look all around for Permit Patty. I keep wanting to call her Peppermint Patty. I only just put that together. That that's what it's from. That's a riff on that. Permit Patty.

But yeah, I mean, and she has already appeared on the Today Show. No word why the Today Show didn't just get the child to come on and be like, yeah, this bitch. Why would the... They brought in Permit Patty because that is who presumably their audience would identify with. Yes, that is so true. Especially the fourth hour of the Today Show. It's a middle-aged white lady. It is, yeah.

And she was, you know, contrite, I guess. Which, by the way, she does have a medicinal marijuana company. She made dog edibles, edibles for... It's like a parody of gentrification. Right. Truly. What are you... Disgusting.

That's her story is that she sells dog edibles edibles for dogs like to who are in pain full disclosure i don't remember her exact brand but i for sure possibly bought her edibles for my last dog oh r.i.p kitty you're one of the greats yeah that's that i was gonna say one of say, one of the organizations actually said that they're no longer going to sell her products. I did see that. Yeah. Someone retweeting that.

There's all sorts of great memery going around. Dani, you posted a great meme. Yeah, it's of these two little white kids selling lemonade. And then, oh, I forgot what this guy's original meme is from. But he's basically calling the cops on them. It says me all summer long. And then another one by J.O.A., which says white folks call 9-1-1 like it's customer service. Yep.

It's really. I mean, yeah. And obviously the darker side of this is like we've seen police murder children because they called 9-1-1 like some white person called 9-1-1 and so like this a little bit is like at the level i guess it's not exactly the same thing but this needs to start becoming in a conversation on the on par with like swatting like no absolutely calling cops on black people is adjacent to attempted murder. Like, you be be ready. Be like, understand the consequences when you do shit like this.

I don't know. Did they arrest somebody or somebody's got charged with manslaughter for swatting somebody? Probably. I mean, I hope so. If a story like this results in somebody being harmed that should

at least be possible be something that you could prosecute somebody for. The little girl was actually her mom had recently

lost her job and she was selling water to help get a trip to Disneyland which then for a stranger bought them tickets to Disneyland

after seeing this. Without a permit, Danny. How many times do I have to say that? And it's also the same, like, just remarkable, like, same small government libertarians are like, well, I mean, of course it's important that, you know, San Francisco,

libertarian, like, capitalist paradise. Oh, but it's super important that you get a permit from the government to sell water right right scum yeah so are you saying that the right is not ideologically coherent yeah no way we also want to talk about the uh lack of civility the uncivility war that's going on between the left and the right right now. So the left has been accosting the people of power in the Trump administration at restaurants. They've been making Sarah Sanders get up in the midst of her cheese plate and leave their restaurant.

So all-out war has been declared. And, you know, there was a protest at Stephen Miller's house yesterday or his apartment outside of his apartment, and they put up wanted posters. And actually, Fox and Friends this morning reported on this. And I just I really like the direction that one of the hosts takes this segment. This could backfire on Democrats if they keep it up. And it can incite violence eventually. That's a worry. If someone, exactly, if someone approaches your family, you're going to want to defend yourself. If they're yelling nasty comments to you about your politics in front of your kids, it's humiliating.

So she's not saying – Stephen Miller is going to shoot somebody. She's worried that they're going to shoot – the conservatives will kill the people protesting them. Not that like they're – I think they probably had this on the teleprompter as talk about the risk of violence. And she was like, yeah, well, I mean we might shoot them because we are armed very clearly and we're going to murder them. So that's awesome. But this seems to have started the debate, the idea of like people on the left protesting powerful people on the right in their private lives. There have been a couple instances that have popped up of people on the right accosting people on the left that aren't necessarily people of power. There was a video yesterday where a Mexican gentleman was doing yard work and a woman walked up to him and just like gave him the finger and he said, why do you hate us?

And she said, because you're Mexicans. And he said, we're honest people right here. And she said, haha, yeah, rapists and animals. Jesus fucking Christ. This is on the heels of that one woman calling the police on a 10-year-old black girl for selling water on the street because she didn't have a permit to be selling water. I don't know. It's just funny to me that we've started this, quote, like debate around civility. And it's all centers around, you know, how the left is treating, you know, Stephen Miller in his private life,

as opposed to, you know, how right wing people and Trump supporters are treating, you know, normal, not powerful left wing people. We're not even left wing people, just people. Like just people being cranky that people are exercising their right to protest. I find it very annoying that people are exercising their rights in my direction. That's actually very unchill. And we should have a fascist government. Right.

Oh, OK. Yeah. That's what you're asking. i just hate the false equivalence of it i mean everybody who is complaining about throwing sarah sanders out of that restaurant is like well uh my friend can't has to bake cakes for the gays why you have to serve this guy you have to serve her uh and it's such like it's so so dumb you can't have somebody who's outside yelling and berating people in the restaurant and then come in and be like, yeah, we're going to serve you. Right. Right. Yeah.

And I mean, I don't know. She's a pretty awful person. And restaurants are like well within their rights to like, it's just. Yeah, refuse service to an individual person. Yeah. Someone pointed out, like, it's totally legal if somebody comes into your restaurant and they were, like, a bully to you in high school. It's totally okay for you to be like, no, fuck you. I don't like you personally, and therefore you can't eat at my restaurant. They did not serve her because she was... Right.

Because she was... You can't eat at this IHOP. A woman. Right. They didn't serve her because she was not a nice person. Right. She's a bad person. So, guys, big news.

Trump's travel ban has been upheld in a 5-4 decision. Oh, with that Supreme Court that he stole? Yes. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, this is a 5-4 decision that would have definitely gone the other way with the Obama nominee, with Garland. But instead, we have Gorsuch, and it went the direction of the conservatives. I don't know.

This made me think of the fact that Republicans are better at this than progressives are. They're like, I don't know, they did an unprecedented thing to steal a Supreme Court nominee, but it was, turns out it's legal. And that's where we are. The Republicans know they have to do whatever they're legally permitted to do in order to protect and like advance their ideology. And they're wrong. to do in order to protect and advance their ideology. And they're wrong, and the vast majority of the world, and even most people in America know they're wrong, so they have to use tricks and underdog strategies to win. They have to find loopholes and think outside the box.

It's a real case against asking for forgiveness instead of permission. Right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Malcolm Gladwell wrote this book, David vs. Goliath, where he talked about, like, all these underdog strategies and, like, how if you have, like, a basketball team that's less talented than the other teams,

if you do this, like, one strategy of just doing a full court press, you can usually like do much better than your talent would suggest and he also like looked at insurgent warfare and like how you know the north vietnamese defeated the vastly more powerful u.s army and the u.s army had them beaten like all the things that warfare is supposed to be about, weapons, manpower, technology, spending, but like they were able to just, you know, outscrap them. And I feel like it's a similar case with conservatives versus progressives. Like progressives have Republicans beat in every category that should matter in politics. They have their right and people know their right for the most part. Like

America is way more conservative than the rest of the world because science and reason are the like dominant values in the modern world and reason and science support progressive values. The left has like a media that knows their right. The truth sort of has a liberal progressive bias. Their core ideology is helping others in like a Christian nation. Demographically, they already win the popular vote and things are trending more in their direction. Like Republicans have a shitty hand, but they know they have a shitty hand and they focus on ways of using like loopholes and brutality. They're just shameless, I feel like. They're using a mighty duck strategy

to make the world a harder place to live in for everyone. Yeah. God. This is Little Big League, yeah. God. And I feel like- The hidden ball trick over and over again. Against Zambonis.

I feel like Democrats assume, and this is what I had kind of assumed, that because progressive values are right, that they'll win out in the end. Like the when they go low we go high sort of has a implication that it's just being right will self-evidently win out in the end and I feel like that's not necessarily the case like you have to play the game and like play it ruthlessly in order to you know beat these people who are fucking brutal and just like finding every single loophole to steal decisions and steal and you know it doesn't matter how they're doing it because they are affecting

people's lives elizabeth warren needs to watch. Yeah. Or Game of Thrones, something where like... I feel like Game of Thrones is the way, because Game of Thrones, so Game of Thrones was, I think there would be these moments in Game of Thrones where the whole world would be like, oh no, what happened? And it's because it was like the first show that was like, okay, so here's where the narrative conventions would lead. This handsome underdog would defeat the giant, monstrous guy he's fighting in battle because he has truth and justice on his side,

and he's the more fun, progressive guy, and that guy's head gets squashed like a grape because it's based more on how history history works and the way history works is that the people who are willing to use violence and you know just you know kick dirt in your face yeah and dragons like as we all know people who are willing to use dragons tend to win out in history and this is a gibberish to me i'm not a dweeb who watches Game of Thrones. However, yeah, I don't know. Especially because this Supreme Court decision happened today, like on the day of primary elections in New York. It's just such a slap in the face of like, well, yeah, enjoy voting.

Everyone should absolutely vote. But your vote doesn't really matter and people can steal stuff from you anyways regardless of what you think and how like civically engaged you are just depressing yeah but i mean it should matter i feel like the people who progressives vote for should be better at their job and like realize that they're playing a different game they still believe in civility and you know the right is out here, they're just like, no, we're not going to let you do the thing that it seems like all indications would be that you should be allowed to nominate a Supreme Court justice, but we're just not going to do that even though it's historically unprecedented. It is crazy. And yeah, it does feel like the political representatives of the left all are – they are acting like they can't be wrong in the end, that somehow this is all going to work out for them.

Right. To this point that like their sense of how to fight for anything is atrophied. They're so bad at countering things that are so clearly bad. Right. Trump couldn't paint bigger targets on the things that he's doing. And instead they're like, well, let's see. What does the average person care about? Oh, Kathy Griffin.

Let's go defend her. Yeah. You're missing the point. And he's also good at figuring out what people care about and just realizing people care about little fucking reality TV wars and shit like that. He's running the presidency like a reality TV wars and shit like that, that he can, you know, he's running the presidency like a reality TV. I think, yeah, the average person, the sense of civility that we even have among average citizens of the United States,

whether we're acknowledging it or not, the president does exemplify what the civility is of the people. And he is the least civil person there is. And everyone else is just acting in accordance to that. He says terrible things about other human beings on Twitter all the time. And everybody else is like, oh, that's how we're talking now? All right, cool.

Right. Yeah. Like, do you guys feel, do you ever just think, okay, well, history will prove us right? Like, sometimes I think that about the Trump administration. I'm just like, yeah, but that doesn't help anybody to think that way. Like history vindicating you doesn't help anyone. And that's just like the version of history that we've been given, which is written by mostly the bad people anyways.

Right. So it's just like, I don't know. We don't know who's been buried by time. Right. That's true. So good guys lose and we're doomed. Yep. All right.

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gotten more and more treacherous as Mexico has kind of got deadlier and deadlier. And so we had one of our writers, Sam Rabman, kind of take a look at where most of the people who are being detained are coming from. And so it used to be like 98% of the people crossing the Mexican border were just originally from Mexico. And that wasn't very long ago at all. That was like within the last 10 years. But now it's 50% people from Central America, like El Salvador and Honduras and Guatemala. 50% of the people are coming across the border from there. And a big part of it is that during the Obama administration, there was, you know, people talk about how Obama deported more people than any administration in the history of the world. And his administration was deporting like people who

had committed crimes, but he was deporting them back to their home countries. And when he deported all those people back to their home countries who were criminals, those countries got really, really bad. And so now you have basically this chain reaction of the people who aren't horrible criminals, who weren't just deported there, are now fleeing the countries because- To escape the criminals that Obama sent back. Right. So on the one hand, it's like not a bad exchange. You know, we're sending them the people who have all committed like felonies and murders. And we're getting the people who are like, ah, fuck. But they're really coming from horrifying shit. Like El Salvador became the world's most violent country, not at war in 2015 uh when gang

related violence brought its homicide rate to 103 per hundred thousand whoa uh in the u.s it's 5.4 per 100 000 people and a lot of the times people who are fleeing and are like i'm seeking asylum i i'm in a lot of trouble back there. Please let me stay in America. When the United States is like, we don't believe that you're in that much trouble and send them back, they do get murdered. There's like all sorts of cases of, I think the Columbia School of Journalism identified 60 cases of immigrants deported back to their country who were then killed or harmed in the way that they were specifically asking to like trying to escape it's nuts that we're keeping better track of the people we sent back then the kids we

have here right yeah so that's that's the other thing is there's not really a system to reunite parents and kids because they just weren't paying that much attention in the first place because it was just a half-assed uh decision that was like yeah we'll show them yeah so also a bummer boy yeah this this podcast is fun yeah exactly am i right yeah but i mean so so there's one story of this guy, Constantino Morales, who was shot and killed back in Mexico. He was a former police officer in Mexico who publicly stood up against drug trafficking. And like, you know, cartels kept trying to kill him. So he came to the U.S. in search of asylum. Church of Asylum, and he got pulled over for a traffic violation and was found to not have a driver's license, which I know people who drive without a driver's license.

Hi. They are some of my favorite people drive without a driver's license. And he was sent back to Mexico for a traffic offense, essentially, and was shot and killed. Oh, man. Yeah. He was basically given a death sentence for a traffic violation. Also, I mean, the reason that these countries are in such bad shape in the first place is the U.S. has a pretty heavy hand in a lot of that, too.

El Salvador, all those Central American countries, that's how we get our cheap bananas and coffee, man, is that we overthrew power so that we could get cheaper food from there. And we're like, eh, we'd prefer your government be this instead. Right. And it's still having these lasting, awful effects. And then also the drug trade. The drug trade, there's a reason it's all moving north. We're all doing drugs here.

Like, we want those drugs. Yeah. Drugs are great. And we wouldn't have those if all this stuff wasn't going on. Drugs are great. And we wouldn't have those if all this stuff wasn't going on. If everyone in the United States is just like, you know, either we make drugs legal or we just – everyone has got to stop doing drugs so that everybody stops getting killed in these Central American countries. Can we all agree to stop doing drugs, guys?

Right? I'm getting a resounding no from the room. Narcs of notes. Yeah. I've been outed as an unlicensed driver yeah i'm keeping a list of jamie jamie loftus things hates game of thrones right loves drugs loves drugs does not drive with a license i did not out you uh i said some of my favorite people i wasn't even talking about you i turned myself into the cops on the air.

And has already threatened to arrest me on three different Post-its. Yeah, Super Producer Anna Hosnier has been sliding Post-it notes across the table to Jamie Loftus. She's been on this sting for over five years. Almost has enough. You guys, Justice Kennedy is retiring. He's long been thought of as the swing vote. Whenever the liberal side of the court wins a decision, it's usually because Kennedy has come over. He is going to retire in July, and so there will be an open seat for Trump to fill. And that's very bad news, because the

Supreme Court has already been showing a tendency towards being being right wing ideologues in the past few days, really. So here's my question about this. Why isn't there a failsafe for this? Why? I don't because this has been the system for hundreds of years, right? That presidents put in Supreme Court judges. Is it just like, oh, well, it'll be like fucked for 50 years until the next person dies?

Or is there like some way to because it does it does seem crazy that now it's just a majority of people who always vote the exact same way. Yeah. Right. You can kind of like just not bother bringing it to the Supreme Court because you know which way they're going to vote because they're just right wing weirdos. they're just right wing weirdos. Right. So one thing that has been thrown around, and I think FDR either did it or was talking about doing it, was he had a similar issue where the court was fucking things up and holding back progress in America. And he was going to just start nominating additional justices, sort of flood the court with more justices because there's nothing in the law that says you need nine. Interesting. Yeah. So he can technically do that, or she, whoever ends up being the president after Trump. You mean Trump? Yeah. Oh, boy. So, I mean, this comes on the heels of the Supreme Court upholding Trump's travel ban, which the minority decision Sotomayor said is put in the same tradition as the Supreme Court decision that upheld internment camps for Japanese people during World War II.

Like, that's not some left-wing rag that is making that comparison. That is a Supreme Court justice in the minority decision. But then to rub her nose in it, they like went and like reversed that. Right. The next day. Right. They said in the majority decision, they were like, and this has nothing to do with that. And in fact, that was a bad decision. We're officially coming out as saying that that's a bad decision just in time yes so i

don't know the you know this is going to be an ongoing story one of the main ongoing stories for the next couple of months uh the supreme court also decided today to fuck unions over because they're way too strong in america uh so uh they they can no longer compel uh federal employees to pay dues into unions which is going to make unions way poorer so it's an already right-wing supreme court kennedy has been on the conservative side. He's been on the majority side for these past handful of decisions that have gone conservative. So it's not like he's a reliable liberal vote, but he has been a reliable champion of women's reproductive rights. rights. He has been a champion of gay rights. So those are two incredibly important places where we could see things backslide a little bit if everything goes according to the horrible fucking plan that the right wing will kind of try to hatch here.

So does that mean that I don't have to pay my SAG dues anymore? That's a good question. I think that's what it means. It could be. Or it means that they can't kick me out if I don't pay. I know. Right? Maybe.

We got to get to the bottom of this, Kurt. I am now interested. If Kurt needs to pay his SAG union dues. The first story we wanted to talk about is this Rolling Stone profile of one Mr. Johnny Depp. It is 10,000 words on Johnny Depp. And if you could have come up with a description of an article that I wouldn't want to read,

that is it. 10,000 words on Johnny Depp. Rolling Stone is notably way more fascinated by Johnny Depp than I am. They have had him on their cover five times, which is shocking to me because, I don't know, he's an actor and they're a music magazine, but I guess they always identified him as bad boy, outlaw sort of actor. So they sent a writer who did a wonderful job to hang out with him for like five days at his,

at this giant mansion that he was renting in London. And it is just one of the darkest profiles of any human being. Like you've probably seen photos of him lately looking like he's been poisoned by plutonium. His face is kind of degrading a little bit. It's weird to see someone so thin yet so puffy. Right. Yeah, exactly. It's like a skeleton was inflated.

Right. Yeah, I think that's basically five years of untreated alcoholism because as you're reading the Rolling Stone article, like you may be interested in this article pops up and it's like uh 2013 johnny depp single sober and like he looks great yeah it's just like ah okay and then in this article he's talking about how uh people claimed that he was spending thirty thousand dollars on wine a month and or three hundred thousand maybe and he was like that's way too little i spend $30,000 on wine a month, or $300,000 maybe, and he was like, that's way too little.

I spend way more than that on wine. And he's just staying up all night. He wakes up when the sun is setting and just stays up all night watching movies and cracking up a bunch of Yes Men, basically what we were just talking about. Everything that you've just described up until this point is a description of a Men, basically what we were just talking about. Everything that you've just described up until this point is a description of a vampire and that's my new conspiracy theory that Johnny Depp

was bitten by a vampire and that's his new life. Well, that's his band, right? The Hollywood Vampires. Oh, no! Yes, it is. Oh, no! He is fully aware that that's what it seems like. That's the weird thing too, where he drifts in and out of seeming like he has self-awareness. Right.

And that's what I think is the most interesting thing about reading that. Because I read the whole thing, too. And I was like, this is like one-eighth of the way through. I was like, this has got to be over soon. I was like, oh, my God. I saw the little bar on the side. It's just a tiny speck in the upper right hand corner. Yeah.

And so that's the thing that's fascinating to me about it. It's like you lose that outsider perspective. Also, what I wanted to know is how did that writer is amazing. Like, did that writer do drugs? Because how is he staying up until dawn, 8 a.m. with this guy every night without doing drugs? That's what I don't understand. sitting up but like i had to tell johnny depp finally that i had to leave him but johnny depp is constantly just like making people hang out with him and you know telling bad jokes and he like has this sense of humor that's really awful there's probably the most damning line in the thing is roderick writes depp considers himself a funny man.

And then like one of his jokes is he's bragging that he said dirty Sanchez in Pirates of the Caribbean and like, but it was too real for Disney and they had to like cut it out. Too real, too dumb. Yeah. He also like plays a Don Rickles joke from Sugar Ray Robinson's roast from the 70s that's just openly racist. And he's like, man, that was ballsy, huh? The writer's like, yeah, man, I guess.

But yeah, it's really, I don't know, like there hasn't been a great portrait of, you know, this sort of the logical extreme of sort of the pathological narcissism that Hollywood sort of encourages and that, you know, even just American culture, we all sort of worship fame and like fame is a religion sort of thing. There hasn't been a great portrait of what that looks like when it's just uh totally running on empty like just completely uh in a long time like it reminds you of like sunset boulevard a little bit the old movie where a writer like his car breaks down like next to the mansion of a silent film actress like 30 years after people stopped making silent films and she's just like completely bonkers it's where the line i'm ready

for my close-up mr deville is from uh gray gardens uh is another example of just sort of opulence in decline and this is i think think, one of the great portraits that I've seen. What is interesting, too, is that he does have, he has 14 houses. Yes. And he has such money problems that he's in this giant lawsuit with his old management company. But imagine just selling one house of 14 how can you have an emotional relationship with a 14th house you know I mean like what it's like it's like it's like having an emotional relationship with a hotel you stayed in

ten years ago yeah yeah you know just like no I can't give up the experience of ever staying in that hotel again I know it's my 14th most valuable house, but it'll always be my ninth favorite house. So it's like, well, okay. So there's a great line by Bono, actually, of all people, who says about fame, if you sit down to dinner and you realize that everybody who's there is being paid by you, that you're probably an asshole. And there's a moment uh towards the end of the article where the writer goes uh i want to go home but feel reluctant to

leave one of the most famous actors in the world is now smoking dope with a writer and his lawyer while his cook makes dinner and his bodyguards watch television there is no one around him who isn't getting paid like that's that's just what his life is now. His best friend and, like, it seems like his only friend is his lawyer, who is, like, just, you know, seeing him through all these, like, financial lawsuits and, you know, he just hasn't paid attention to money at all ever and is in all sorts of debt. And the only weird thing is that they don't really focus on the Amber Heard thing, but I think it's probably because there's enough horror to go around without

it. Yeah. Um, and I mean, they mention it, but, uh, I think he's probably reluctant to talk about it,

but I mean, that is sort of an important background. All of this is just the scenes from that marriage are like straight out of a horror movie, uh, except like a really pathetic one. There's one part, uh,

where she talked about how he cut off the tip of his finger and wrote, uh, easy Amber on a mirror and blood, and then wrote starring Billy Bob Thornton because he thought Billy Bob Thornton had sex with his wife. But it was like, but like, it's like easy. Amber is such a seventh grade. Yeah. wrote starring Billy Bob Thornton because he thought Billy Bob Thornton had sex with his wife. Oh, my God. But it's like, easy, Amber is such a seventh grade insult. It's like, dude, what is wrong with you?

Oh, no. But also that's what's interesting, too, that you learn through the article is that the reason he, it seems, the reason that he is in this specifically dark hole is because he lost uh like contact with his sister who stopped talking to him when he wouldn't agree to do a prenup with amber or heard right yeah so now that he doesn't have the person he grew up with anymore is when he like really goes into this vampire spiral right who like managed all of his yeah belongings and yeah yeah i mean it's literal like vampirism was originally seen as like a metaphor for like capitalism like sucking the life force out of things and like it really almost is a yeah actual living metaphor for that in this article it really is yeah but uh his sister like that that that's a really good point that it was his sister who was running his career prior to all of this shit going wrong for him.

All right. So things are bad for Johnny Depp. But fortunately for the rest of the world, everything's going great, guys. We're going to take a quick break and then we'll be right back with just terrible news. and then we'll be right back with just terrible news. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that.

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And it can incite violence eventually. If someone, exactly, if someone approaches your family, you're gonna wanna defend yourself. If they're yelling nasty comments to you about your politics in front of your kids, it's humiliating. So she's not saying- Stephen Miller's gonna shoot somebody. They're going to shoot somebody. She's worried that they're going to shoot this.

The conservatives will kill the people protesting them. I think they probably had this on the teleprompter as talk about the risk of violence. And she was like, yeah, well, I mean, we might shoot them because we are armed very clearly and we're going to murder them. Let's talk about big Dick Energy, guys. So this is something that- That's why I'm here. In honor of Matt, this is something that when Jamie was guest hosting two episodes ago, this was just starting to make ripples around the web because Ariana Grande said that her fiance Pete Davidson

has big dick energy and she said that unironically like this is or maybe she said he had a 10 inch dick and then people were like he has a 10 inch dick he has big dick energy so it makes sense right um I don't think yeah wait so that's what i saw headlines about like he's so big and she's so small and i thought it was purely stature i had no idea that's what people were talking well yeah i mean there's that too that yeah it doesn't seem the lore surrounding this term has evolved quite a bit in the past 48 hours. Like there's now a whole like think tank consisting of me and Jack. Yes. About what constitutes big dick energy.

Yeah. So we spent all morning that we should have been preparing and doing research on the actual news talking about who qualifies as having big dick energy, because I think that's probably the best way to figure out what big dick energy is, is by interrogating actual people and their possession of it or not. So we talked about three of the last four presidents, Bill Clinton, Obama, and Trump. Jamie, you and I were saying Obama and Trump both give off big dick energy. Yes. Which proves-

Trump? Yeah. Well, big dick energy isn't necessarily a good thing, which is, I think, a common misconception with BDE. Maybe explain it to me. Right. Well, BDE is just all confidence. It's all confidence and sometimes unjustified confidence.

Sometimes the confidence can be unjustified, but with Obama, like beyond confident, like even though he deserves to be confident, he's like incredibly smooth and like just carries himself like he has a huge dick. Trump, like just you wouldn't he has this unnecessary or like undeserved confidence about him. That's like it's got to be coming from somewhere yeah small dick energy well it's but it's not an overcon it's kind of that dumb guy i don't know like bill clinton hapless bill clinton is very confident but i don't think he has big dick energy i think he has like mediumish dick energy. I agree. And it's also like you can have big dick energy and then also physically have a withered chode like the current president. Right, right, right. So it's a vibe.

It's not a physical description. And the yardstick that I've been using is, okay, if you have big dick energy, if when people meet you, they think that, oh, how does that work? If people are like, oh, I thought you were going to be taller. If people think you're going to be taller, you have big dick energy. I see. Because you carry yourself like a bigger presence. Right. If you're me and you're six feet tall and everyone's like, no way she's taller than 5'7", you got no dick energy.

You're completely dickless. You're completely dickless. You're a withered chode. Jamie Foxx has huge dick energy, we decided this morning. Yeah, that makes sense. Jamie Foxx is a very small man, but you would never expect him to be as small as he is because of the way he carries himself. And he just has a certain swagger. But we were saying Will Smith does not not have big dick energy even though he's you know a very talented actor he just doesn't have uh we were talking about drake versus kendrick

now this was controversial i said drake has big dick energy because so i think drake's uh sort of self-conflicted sort of lack of confidence is actually something he puts on. Like he projects vulnerability and like an actor would project vulnerability. And the fact that he needs to pretend to feel vulnerable suggests that he has big dick energy. I think he's Canadian and a former child star and both of those don't bode well for big dick energy. Yeah. But Haley Joel Osment. So this is the thing though. Major dick energy yeah but hayley joel osmond so this

is the thing though major dick energy yeah for sure but can't the fact that he's working against those two handicaps child actor and a canadian and yet has gotten where he's going wouldn't that suggest that he's being carried forth by some ineffable energy there's a way to control test this with alanis morissette but how What would you consider Alanis Morissette? Oh, interesting. I don't think she's big dick. I don't think so. I don't think she's big dick energy.

Well, maybe there you go. Yeah. But I mean it as a compliment in that way. It's confusing. Yeah, I'm a little confused. So overanalyzing big dick energy is not big dick energy. Yes. However, you coming in today, Matt, not knowing what big dick energy was.

Huge dick energy. But now that I know, have I lost, I don't have big dick energy anymore. We took your dick. Boy, what a sad paradox that you can't... Once you become self-aware, you lose big dick energy. I think most rock

band lead singers have big dick energy. It's almost like an unwarranted confidence is how I think about it. Like we were talking about Pete Davidson kind of being the perfect person for this to coalesce around because even though he's very funny, like in conversations, Jamie, you were saying he was like really funny on a talk show the other night because he- Peak big dick energy is Pete Davidson going on a talk show uh next sitting next to robert pattinson and instead of promoting his own movie showing a clip from robert pattinson's last movie right and so he's not like even though he's funny he's not like very talent forward but he like

carries himself in a very confident way and that's why i think he has big dick energy but i might just be trying to explain something that words can't do justice for. Maybe it's like confidence in spite of something else. Right, right. Johnny Knoxville, big dick energy. Dana Carvey versus Billy Crystal we have on here. Billy Crystal, big dick. Dana Carvey, no dick.

No dick energy. Big turtle energy. But almost because he's so talent forward? Yeah, I think because he's good at stuff. No dick energy? Big turtle energy. But almost because he's so talent forward? Yeah, I think because he's good at stuff. He's got that big turtle energy. He's rockin' the turtle turtle. And he's seriously self-deprecating. Yeah, that's also true.

Do you think that's a projection or real? I think Dana Carvey's not outwardly confident, so he can't have big dick energy. What about Justin Trudeau? I think big dick energy. Yeah, I guess that kind of busts my whole Canadian thing. so you can't have Big Dick Energy. Okay. What about Justin Trudeau? I think Big Dick Energy. Yeah, yeah. I guess that kind of busts my whole Canadian thing. Yeah.

I mean, we were talking child actors. Right. That's a small subset. That's a subset. It's hard to find a Degrassi cast member with Big Dick Energy, but I would argue that the actor Jake Epstein, who played Craig Manning, does have Big Dick Energy. Okay, yeah.

And everyone can attack my mentions. Most controversial take in the history of your time on this show. Can we just talk about the turtle fact real quick? Yes. This is my favorite. It's my favorite fact. It's also my favorite thing about you that you love this fact so much. So can you explain to people?

It's the best fact. Okay. favorite thing about you that you love this fact so much so can you explain to people okay so the master of disguise dana carvey's starring vehicle that uh was just a big old train wreck you gotta watch it it's a 68 minute movie wow where 12 of the minutes are credits and bloopers uh so there's the famous turtle turtle scene right from the trailer turtle there's the famous turtle, turtle scene. Right, from the trailer. Turtle, turtle. It's the only scene in the movie, basically. And so the day that was filmed was September 11th, 2001. Oh, my God. It was shooting in Los Angeles.

It was really early here. And Dana Carvey's wearing the turtle outfit. And they're like, guys, something they're like guys 9-11 just happened 9-11 just happened everyone gets a five minute break and then we're going back to shooting the turtle this is true yes we shot on

the 9-11 ever heard of it and that's major that's big turtle energy rocking Jennifer Esposito had to just clench And that's major. That's big turtle energy. Yeah. Rocking. Jennifer Esposito had to just clench and look at the big turtle. But that doesn't sound like Dana Carvey. Was that some producer making that call? I'm sure.

I don't know. I doubt that Dana Carvey. But the fact that everyone's like, well, we can't stop filming the turtle scene. It was just whatever mass psychosis happened. No, they're like, this is what America needs right now. If we do this, they've won. Two minutes later, America needs to laugh again. As the second tower is coming down.

We had to do it to them. Just a couple good observations. Mug in the car. You bring a coffee mug in a car without a lid on it. So stressful. Big dick energy. You said that's big dick energy. I kind of like that.

It's just completely unaware of your surroundings. And then, yeah, like we said, talking big dick energy to death is small dick energy. Analysis in general yes all right that's gonna do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist please like and review the show if you like the show uh means the world to miles he he needs your validation folks i hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday. Bye. Thank you. Hey, fam, I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay.

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