The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 304 (Best of 1/8/24-1/12/24)

Episode Date: January 14, 2024

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get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist uh these are some of our favorite segments from this week all edited together into one uh non-stop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. So without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the classics, an early guest, one of our favorites, one of your favorites. It's been way too long since he's been on. He's a hilarious actor, improviser who writes on TV shows like Grand Crew,

video games, TV shows about video games. Please welcome Thought Dad, trademark. It's Ify Waterway! Yes! Yes, a.k.a. Ify Shuku. Every time I check my bank account, Ify Shuku. You wouldn't even believe my bank amount. If he should go,

I can't count up the whole goddamn amount. If he should go, I made it. And sometimes I forget that I'm famous. Just like I'm Amos. Turn around. It's the worst little Uzi verse of 2022. He ruined a baby Keem song,

but beside that, beside that bar, it's actually the worst. oozy verse of 2022. He ruined a Baby Keem song. But beside that bar, it's actually the worst bar. The verse itself, okay. That bar, he made a famous Amos reference in the year of our Lord, 2022. But yes,

I'm here. The dad in me appreciates that. The dad in me sees the dad in you. Yeah, you're like, oh, it's time to pack my kid's lunch. You're right. You're like, I'm late for school. You're like, hold on. Let me put on I Just Want to Rock by Lil Uzi Vert.

You ready for this one? Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. That song goes. It has no reason being as good as it is, but it is. I have a question for you dads out here. Is it, how often are you like, when you're trying to like rock a baby, you know what I mean? Are you, do you ever just rap a verse? Like, cause I feel like people have baby appropriate songs, but I have so many rap verses memorized that I feel like if I could summon it, I could be like, you know, I could just lean into it.

You know, like, I rock a fly baby in the summertime for sure. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. And you look, they're so young. They're not even going to remember all the words you're using. So you can just go full explicit on that rock on the first few years. Right.

Pretend I know the whole rap God verse by Eminem. You know, I was spitting that shit perfect when you were a baby. Yeah. You just don't remember it because you were a child yeah it's it's definitely like more of my brain is dr seuss shit now like i just realized access like we were waiting in line somewhere and we started doing i don't know like some silly you know shit and i realized i know all of dr seuss abcs like by heart oh you can just like spit that back which is not like that hard you already know what order it comes in because of the because it's

the abcs but yeah there's a lot of rhymes that uh start taking up space that used to be occupied by ghostface i think yeah for sure italian italian music down the river with your chick clinging. That's gone now to my bit all player you matter for. That's right. Ify, how are you doing, man? It's been way too long. Yeah, I know it's been way too long. I've been trying to squeeze in here between gigs,

but it really was a quick runner last year because I was doing twisted metal at the top of the year and then right after twisted metal i was back in grand crew but now um you know i'm chilling um you know you know you're developing some stuff you know inside baseball but you know now i have free time i've been dying to come on the pod and it's now is the perfect time because i think if i would have went in when I was like right after the room, when I was just like, you know, like neck deep in writing a TV show and not coming up for air, but now, you know, I'm back on my gym routine and part of my gym routine, which, you know, this, if you don't know this already, uh, you know, uh, zeit gang,

if you are on a Spotify, you can do the daily drive. That's, that's my shit. And what they do when you do the daily drive is they mix in the NPR kind of like daily up first, and then it goes into your, your music playlist. And then they'll pick like a,

you know, a podcast. That's your vibe. I think they figured out that I'm a leftist. So then it goes to marketplace, then it'll place more playlists. And then if you come back in the day, you'll get the updates with, uh, NPR is kind of up next updates, which is great. So why are you trying to hold on, man? I just told you I was having a kid and you trying to take money out of his mouth.

Okay. Right there. Because you know, we have a morning show too. And then we will update you later in the day. I also give music recommendations, music recommendations but yes uh shout out that other app oh yeah yeah that other i know i totally came on here but you know definitely uh because when i was in my deep pod one i was i was double dipping uh you know listening to y'all listening to this and but also i do think spotify does need to get the uh tdz because y'all would fit the vibe more because it is funny having to go from NPR's, you know, tone to like Baby Keem. And I'm like, this would never be on KPCC or wherever you're listening. Like, they are never going to be like, okay, the needle drop after Ira Glass hop off is

going to be the... They're like, get ready. They try and do it sometimes. And it's embarrassing every time they do. It is jarring. Whereas, like, if the needle drop came off of us, you'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. I mean, we go out on some bangers. So, yeah, if you work in Spotify, definitely let them know to get TDZ in that daily drive.

Yeah, let them know. That's my new campaign. Show love. Come on, show love. To make up for what I just did, I'm definitely going to see what I can do to pull some strings. Man. Also grand crew was dope. I got to tell you.

Oh, thank you. So good. Yeah. I can confidently say this next season is going to be funnier. Uh, you know, and I think,

you know, if you, if you're like, I feel like when you're in the city and you're tapped in, everyone kind of knows that first season is kind of more establishing everyone's relationships. Yeah. No. And second season, we were able to just go like what's the funniest shit we can yeah i feel like you guys were able to get to that pretty quickly though like oh yeah after like the first

few if the show really fucking caught its stride and i still love that pipe jerry or jerry pipe joke i don't know who wrote that one oh yeah that yeah. I forget who did that. But what I do remember is I was trying so hard to be Pipe Jerry. And then when we saw Pipe Jerry, I was like, no, y'all got the right one. Because your boy is buff. But that guy was shredded. That was Pipe Jerry. Wait, tell the Pipe Jerry joke. What is it?

Oh, so Nikki in her phone has pipe Jerry and Jerry pipe. One is a handyman. One is a stripper. And she calls the stripper up when she wanted the handyman. But he comes in as a handyman. And he just starts getting it. I just love the fucking Jerry pipe and pipe. Yeah.

The five balance. Yeah. It was the five balance. Yeah. Yes. What is something from your search history? Uh, recently I was searching sandwiches near me. Hmm. I love that.

I thought was like kind of a funny, but pathetic. No little thing to search is near me. I don't, you know, it's like, what's just near around me and arm's length. Yeah. Reaching distance. Yeah. You kind of, yeah.. You know, it's like, what's just near around me and arm's length?

Yeah, reaching distance. Yeah, you kind of. Yeah, that's like you're like you're basically just typing into your phone. I'm hungry. Sandwiches within earshot. Yeah, I can yell sandwiches

and someone I wanted a sandwich. I would, you know, I did a couple day trip type things that we've had some family visiting over the holidays and that some of those days really feel like, OK, now you got to have a sandwich after like a day trip and so i

needed one in the vicinity and where'd you end up well we just ate at we were at the botanical garden huntington botanical oh yeah yeah beautiful botanical garden and we just ate at the cafe there because it was too hard to get to another sandwich but i i was thinking of some and i didn't get them but i'll eventually get there you ever it's funny when you say saying like sandwich near me because you know like google always auto fill stuff for you to be like near like i need a physical therapy like an orthopedic blah blah near me near me you want it really far away part of me like i'm like some weird like early search snob where i'm like that's not how you're gonna fucking figure out where it is you know you don't

need to have it specific but obviously it's optimized to use your location just figure that on your own but i it's for whatever reason whenever i see you near me i'll never do that i'll fully type in the city i'm like well i was desperate for a sandwich that's why i allowed the autocomplete i was like you're right yeah i need it close it needs to be here now food there not that great not that great no it was japanese garden it was immaculate who doesn't love a japanese garden actually it's like i'm semi-joking but it is the most packed place and you are like this rules this is tranquil as hell. Yeah. It's wild how diverse all of the flora and fauna and stuff.

We're like, okay, now we're in Asia. Now you're down under in the succulent desert area. Are you a dad already? Or this is first date? No. You're talking dad talk. I'm a dad. And let me tell you, I love me some flora Exactly

Don't get me started on fauna Oh my god It gets nuts But dads love Different types of things growing I have my father-in-law here And he has pointed out many a tree And I'm interested

Hey kid Let's go to the church and the choir man we'll go on a boat cruise around the bay check out the flotsam and jetsam you know we do it all that would be really nice yeah so that's that's what i'm into now not so much jetsam actually i had a bad experience my flotsam game is you flotsam or jetsam flots there go. Flots all the way, dude. Now, Miles is definitely built for this shit. That's great. I have unending useless knowledge to bore my child with.

Perfect. That's what they need. Exactly. And then they'll regurgitate that at school. And they'll be like, what's going on at home? Yes. My son already does that. My son talks about Costco a lot.

Right. Oh, no. Yeah. I'm like, oh, no, but oh, yes. My kid will talk about Taco Bell, how to get a Mexi Melt, the carceral state, and Ronald Reagan is why we have unhoused people. Where's the Cheesy Gordita Crunch? Last time I went there, they didn't have the Cheesy Gordita Crunch meal anymore. Wow. They may have you a la carte that thing, man.

I don't know. Your listeners are just eating this up. They're like, wow la carte that thing, man. I don't know. Your listeners are just eating this up. They're like, wow. No, because they knew my love of the Mexi melt and somebody who used to work at a Taco Bell is like, this is how you can order it still. This is how you just tell them how to assemble it. And I was like, thank you so much to your listeners. Thank you, sir. Coming through. Here's the cheat code. Because as I think about it too, you're maybe shortening my life as I become a parent if I keep up with the Taco Bell hacks.

You know, but that's okay too because you're going to want to get out at some point. So it's like, if I'm going down, Taco Bell. You're going to die like a man. Yeah, with Taco Bell. That's on Man Thinkers actually. Mexican pizza clutch to my chest. I love you, son.

I see you. Heart attack your way out of there. What is something you think is overrated? Staying up late. Yes. Spoken like a true father. This has become such a dadcast. I know. Check out the botanical gardens.

I gave an involuntary yes. And I will say also even more sadly that I've always kind of felt that way. Even in my high school days, I was sort of known for like kind of cutting it off at around. Midnight was like my cutoff in high school. Yeah. Wow.

I was like, there's nothing's going to happen anymore. It's over. Wait, what do you mean nothing's going to happen? That's what my DARE officer said. Nothing good happens after midnight. So I feel that for different reasons right i would say my my counterpoint to the dare officer i'd be like no do your drugs earlier right and then you could still get a good night's sleep yeah don't yeah don't be don't run with the sun exactly you don't need running

with the sun no you don't want to wake up refreshed and you're like i had a great insane night last night on tons of drugs. I got in at 11.45. Exactly. 7 a.m. to 11.45. What is, Allison, something you think is overrated? Well, this goes right kind of into what you guys were just saying. I feel that everyone else in their goddamn opinions are overrated. First of all, I personally overrate them. But being someone who has a podcast, occasionally I hear, frequently I hear people's opinions about everything about me and my show.

And, oh, the way you pronounce that word bothers me. The way you say this bothers me. And because I do overrate it, then I have to be like, fine, I guess I'll just change the way I do everything to appease you. So I just feel like in general, people with all their opinions, if they happen to have to do with me and are negative and make me feel bad. No, thank you. Just, you know, they always say, you know, living on the words of others is a double-edged sword, you know, because the compliments can like power you up. But if, if you really lean on that, the criticism will fucking just cut you in half too. And I think it's about, for me personally, like throughout my life, I've tried to get away from that. Cause I'm such a people pleaser that I really do care a lot about what people think. And it's more about

centering yourself in everything you do and realizing that the most true living experience you can have is to honor what who you are sincerely and really understand that outside commentary can allow those words to like penetrate into your soul because then you're completely doing yourself a disservice and not treating yourself with the sanctity that you deserve so that is beautiful and i agree and actually, that's sort of, I, I go back and forth a lot. Like that's something that for the most, like I, I have that realization, maybe not as eloquently as you put it, but I have that realization frequently. And then all of a sudden I will find that like, oh, this, these comments bothered me.

It's weird. I thought I was a little more armored. All that being said, allow me to say, I'm being somewhat facetious. Like, for the most part, I love that people listen and have an opinion. And of course, I want to hear feedback

and all of that stuff. I'm just saying, occasionally, I'm like, not today, people. Occasionally, they should consider

shutting the fuck up. Just occasionally. But at the end of the day, you know, it's like, you have no responsibility to be like, oh, I heard that. It's like, say whatever the day you know it's like you have no responsibility to be like oh i heard that it's like yeah say whatever the fuck you want i'm not the same you know fuck out of here i'm just look live your shit from the inside and let that resonate outside

don't let the shit don't don't do that shit in reverse don't let the outside shit affect your internal state you know what i mean like that's so good i recently i let your internal state. You know what I mean? That's so good. I recently, I let your internal resonate out. Oh, I think it was, I think it was Harry noted ginger

was saying that the birthday twin, the royal family's policy is like never complain, never explain. And I was thinking

that's the opposite of my policy. I'm constantly, I'm the most over explaining person's the opposite of my policy. I'm constantly, I'm the most over explaining person in the whole world. And I'll complain too. Yeah. Yeah. It's healthier. Yeah. Cause the other side of it, you end up writing a book where you just like air out every weird thing that's happened to you in your life and be like, okay. Yeah. All right. I do want to read it though. Yeah. I know Anna right now. She's got the audio in real time.

She's like, Prince Charles wears Dior sausage. And we're like, Dior sausage? And it was a typo because she went to say Dior Sauvage. And when I responded to her and said, I was over here searching Dior sausage, but Dior Sauvage is so perfect. But as I was trying to type Savage, it auto-corrected to sausage. I couldn't get it to... It was like, no, you definitely mean Dior sausage, my friend.

That's amazing. Yeah. Dior sausage. What were you envisioning? Like some kind of high-end sausage that he put on his body? He has sausage fingers. I don't know. So I was like, I thought this was something...

Yeah, but I wasn't envisioning sausage that he put on his body. I'm sorry. When I read that text, it fucked me up so bad because how do I not know what a Dior sausage is? You got into a car crash. I listen to so much rap and luxury

brands are named. You kind of buy osmosis or kind of up on shit i'm like the dior sausage like is that a food or is that like a piece of jewelry that he keeps on him like he got that dior sausage on him i have no idea but what is dior savage is that a line of something that is the super offensive johnny depp cologne it's dior's cologne that they have where Johnny Depp is in the ads playing electric guitar around indigenous peoples in the desert. No, no. Just very offensive. Like running with a wolf or some shit?

Yeah, running with a wolf. So many scarves. He's just being swallowed by scarves. And he's just out there in the desert with the moon and wolves and indigenous people. It's most heavy-handed nonsense. It's like a thing that they doubled down on him being the spokesperson for the product as he was on trial.

Oh, wow. Yeah. Anyway, shout out to Sausage, though. Yeah. But the sausage has a great snap. Delicious. It's on trial. Oh, wow. Yeah. Anyway, shout out the sausage, though. Yeah. But the sausage has a great snack. Delicious. It's really good. What is something you think is underrated, Teresa?

I'm going to go real basic, organizing bins. I moved in with my boyfriend recently and into where he already lives. Oh, thank you. Good things, good times. It's great, know this is probably something guys who have been through this will relate to i think because i think that it's more common than i realized i move things around constantly because we didn't move in together so i'm like shuffling things around i started getting bins to put things that are out like oh floss pens

now everything's in bins but it's still like around because i'm not trying to like so now like his friends will come over and be like ah i see there's more bins around like just like all the loose items that were out and about are now in bins but i love it and i think that it doesn't distract from his flow to like what do you mean by do you mind showing me like so give me an example of something that yeah and then there's a well i wish i can't grab it now but these bright room clear ones if you target sells them they're great you can stack them like by our so you're just organ it's not like you're filling up like rubber made storage containers. Yeah, man. They're everywhere. They're in the bathroom.

They're in the kitchen. It's like that. What is that ludicrous song? Like in the car, in the bathroom. Oh, yeah. The sauna, jacuzzi, in the backseat at the movies. You can push me into the pool. Yeah, I know that one.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give it to me now. I can't recommend any more of these clear bins because they stack you could put like coffee pods tea chocolate everything yeah no that's true i've never it's funny i so you've probably seen this i feel like asian people will use like tupperware too as a container storage things like on the desk like i grew up at all yo i remember my mom she was like like I'd be like sixth grade. She's like, your room's a mess. She's like, I organized it.

But just put all my pens in a fucking Tupperware and other shit like that. Or old cookie bins. That's the thing. You go to an auntie's house and there's those Danish cookies bins. Oh, the blue one? The blue metal one? That's for sewing. It's just like sewing.

That's for sewing.'s just like sewing yeah that's for sewing that's our sewing kit that's our sewing kit but yeah i think it's just it is funny because i think of that too i have it's just not in my brain to think of buying organizational bins or holders or things like that so i think as just how i'm kind of a like a messy person people who have been to the iheart office back when it was running my desk looked like some kind of fucking hoarders like nightmare but i'm i will organize your office for you i literally love it like it's like i think a new addiction because it's it's fun to organize percentage when you're organizing? What percentage of the stuff are you throwing away?

Am I high? Oh, wait, I'm throwing away. Yeah, it's my high. How high are you? And what percentage of the stuff are you throwing away? Well, so like, I'm trying not to throw away too much because that's the part I think will become annoying. Like literally, I'm like,

my boyfriend's like, it's fine, do whatever. So I just try to reorganize. But I already moved in. So a lot of my stuff is gone so it really is just rearranging and i think that part i love it because sometimes until you move you don't realize that what the flow is gonna be so yeah i've had to shuffle where the keys go like maybe four times and that is probably annoying but um you know my boyfriend's a saint and he just acts like he doesn't mind. I hope he still loves me. I'm sure he does. You're lovable.

Are you saying that they've also improved the container gate? Like it's no longer like the containers that you can get are better than they used to be? Yeah, I think so. I think they realized we were using Tupperware and repurposing like old boxes and shit. Like I used to put my magazine in an old Amazon box, cut in half, and now you don't have to spend a lot. You can just couple bucks

and get these nice plastic bins that stack. Or my mom, she'll put fucking wrapping paper, nice wrapping paper on other boxes to turn them up. Yeah. My mom has this closet of old boxes. Literally, I'm like, we don't need this. It's like stores that are out of business.

She says, boxes for us. She's like, what do you mean we don't need this May Company box anymore? I feel like the one time we made a real run at getting organized, my wife and I are both very disorganized people. Really? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I thought your wife was like the opposites attract thing. No, no, no.

We are like identical as attract in that respect because her majesty looks at me and is disgusted sometimes yeah no that's it's it's truly like we we were like should we really get married this is this is gonna be a problem like we really love each other but this is gonna be a problem because we are identical like identically uh add messy people and we've made it work so far but we've like made multiple runs of getting organized and sometimes it like that the last time we did it like via a container store approach the stuff just kind of looked like shit and ended up kind of all over the place we just had a messy house with containers in there. Yeah, you gotta go not too...

I used to be too ambitious and be like, I'm gonna do the whole room. And then you start doing it and then nothing matches. But with the little thing, you start small. You organize the desk and then you get like, now I have confidence. I can do the kitchen. I can do the bathroom. And then pretty soon

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That's how every movie starts, isn't it? Go, movie, start. And we're a go. We're characters now. All right. So, conspiratorial thinking abounds.

Miles, this is your story. I'm going to let you take it from there. Well, I think, I mean, that's true no matter who says that sentence, I would say. But yes, it is all. I mean, look, last week, right, when, you know, like the anti-vaxxers, I think they believe they got a gift from like blonde haired Jesus when like NFL player, DeMar Hamlin collapsed, passed away like momentarily from a cardiac arrest and was a revived immediately. The fucking tweets and posts talking about died suddenly just ramped up

exponentially. There's this group called the center for countering digital hate. And there are nonprofits that looks at disinformation and things like that. They said that the phrase died suddenly had quadrupled that day. Like with a daily average is only fourth, about 4000 mentions. This is doing about 17,000 where people are going on this whole died suddenly. And do you guys remember we've talked about this phrase died suddenly before because there was that shitty, I guess, documentary that they called it, but it was really just a montage clip of people collapsing due to any other reason aside from

having like a COVID vaccine and actually not dying. And people were like, oh man, this is fucking scary, man. Look at what the vaccine's doing to people. People are just dying left and right. Well, this like the fervor around that shit hasn't died down and this guy specifically just recently came back up in the news you may have remembered us talking about him his name is christopher keys he was the guy because i was called the vaccine cop who wore like a fucking badge yeah and he tried to citizens arrest a fucking governor for like approving vaccines for kids and he also remember his last i mean we really talked about him because of his last. Let me just, let me just remind you really quick what he's told a room full of people, what the antidote to the COVID vaccine was. You know, take it with a grain of

salt, but go do the research. Okay. Because this is going to just be like, there's no way, but the antidote, and I'm going to kill my credibility, but we're creditable to have any way. So the antidote that we've seen now and we have tons and tons of research is urine therapy urine therapy okay and i know a lot of you and a lot of you are like what the fuck is this dude yes he's talking about drinking your peepee so you can negate the vaccine and be free well Well, now this guy's back at it again. So he was on a plane and he was asking the pilots if they

were vaccinated because they could die suddenly due to their vaccination. So this is, we're just going to play this clip. He was just like going up into the cockpit like, hey, how you fellas doing? Blah, blah, blah. You guys aren't vaccinated, are you? This is him walking

up to the cockpit uh we just found out another pilot dropped dead yes you guys aren't vaccinated are you i hope yes oh my god both of you are you serious speaking through the oh my gosh you're young enough okay so he's laughing off he's like yeah okay yeah sure thing more on that later i bet you guys will be fine then guess what the the fucking flight landed because no one's dying suddenly as shit and then this is he goes up to the pilots i guess just to like double back on being like yo i know i was talking about shit like let me just check in on you guys one more time because i don't want to take that out thank you guys thank you give your card real quick yeah please guys the documentary we just put out called died suddenly by stu peters all right you said you were young brother 27 but

again we've had over a thousand athletes drop dead on the football field 23 years of age please go look at it. We have a team of over... You hear the pilot just goes, that's a lie, right back. Because it is a fucking lie. Yeah. He's just like, get the fuck out of my face, dude. Thousands of people aren't going down.

He's likely referencing this website that just has a list of fucking athletes that have died. Like, for any reason. They'll be like, 66-year- athletes that have died. Like for any reason, they'll be like 66 year old rugby legend died. Yeah. Okay. And just leaving it at that.

And I think it's worth mentioning all this because Tucker Carlson has made the same claims on his show. And we're now looking at a like house of representatives where like the pandemic adrenochrome gang are going to be setting a lot of the agendas for what kind of legislation they even discuss or the, you know, the business, a lot of these of a lot of these committees and McCarthy, he finally got his speakership, but he basically had to give away all his power to these people just so he can have a bigger office and hold a wooden dildo. And we're going to pay the price because of this,

because now we have people who are, if you hear even what he said in his first speech, he's talking about things like looking into the origins of the pandemic or like looking at like what's going on with the CDC. All of this language is meant to begin a ton of quote unquote investigations that are just going to challenge people's sense of like established truth or reality going into 2020. This is who we are ceding ground to when people are like he's made some concessions and ceded some ground like this is who he's ultimately ceding ground to is the guy who wants to make

his pilots let him watch them drink their own pee before takeoff to make sure that they're covered. It'll only be a matter of time until Dr. PP is going up to do some kind of testimony in front of Congress or whatever about how he's seen it all, folks. But again, this is all, it's just very dangerous, too, because when you look even how epidemiologists are talking, they're like, man, the way these diseases mutate and we have new variants,

we're looking at a new pathogen every six years that we have to contend with. Well, it's like SARS or MERS or COVID, like they keep coming. And so there's no world in which you got to be like, we don't need to look into any of this shit anymore. Right. Like it's all bullshit. And I don't know how on earth the country can protect itself because it did already a terrible job when the shit started in 2020. When the GOP is basically going to tell Americans like, hey, fuck science. They don't know shit.

Yeah, they've like built out the scaffolding already for the next pandemic. And now everybody like prior to the pandemic, like people, I think like there's been a huge drop off in like the number of people who actually are not skeptical of fucking vaccines just across the board. Like it's done. They've done quite a bit of damage. sort of cognitive biases to deal with, like the sampling bias or sampling error where it's just any news story can be used to make the case. Like it, it didn't make any sense to me. Like it hadn't crossed my mind that the NFL story would be used in this way to like try and bias people against vaccines but it's it's like the you know that year everyone was like god like 2018 is on a weird one all these celebrities are dying and it's just like no there's just a lot of celebrities who are in their 60s and 70s and 80s at this point you know it's like that it's you're just seeing it's like i used to think people in russia were the wildest

drivers and it turns out it's just that russian that like most russian cars have a dash cam and so you just see all the footage of the wildest shit that's happening on roads everywhere around the world happen and like they actually share the footage as opposed to you know we don't we don't all have cameras constantly taking the footage in hey well now we're catching up because now more american people have them now and the clips are starting to have american license plates in them yes and they're equally fucking out there drivers here i mean shit in la i think where i live in glendale is like considered the worst driving in the country right really yeah it is it's i mean the 134 the 134 lawless it's lawless and i and i grew up driving on that shit i'm a good driver because i've had to transit the 134 yourself yeah oh yeah

i mean that's had some of the most fucking fucked up accidents ever on it like the 134 yeah there was one where the guy like was ejected onto like a fucking freeway sign wow like yeah i think i remember that yeah yeah what a way to go it's just a lot of wild anyway but all that to say yeah our confirmation biases are out there but i it's just very scary to think of like how even in our like when the pandemic started here in 2020, like the CDC and the government was like, it looks like a lot of stuff's happening in New York right now. Should we start testing for that? Right. And they just did it. And then, you know, Q Curve theme song. People have to remember in general that state lines are just made up. Right. Because a lot of times people

will be, you know, I'm from the East Coast and I'll visit home and people will be like, wow, California, there's a lot of like fires and stuff out there, huh? And it's like, you live here too. Yes, I'm like closer, but your planet is also on fire. It's not just like, oh, it's only California. And once it hits that line, we don't have to worry about it. Yeah, exactly. It's only slightly further away from you. I think, yeah, we have such a terrible compartmentalization problem in America, whether it's class or race or whatever. People are like, well, that's for this other thing outside of my little box I think I'm inside of.

It's like, no, motherfucker. To your point, it's like we're all on the same rock. point, it's like, you're, we're all on this same rock, you know, and the problems happening here can get to you. They will eventually. Yeah. I flew here in like a few hours. Like it's, it's happening. You might want to like, you know, take a, some cover or something. Right. Yeah. Well, a little bit further, but still, you know, part of a part of an ongoing trend that we've been tracking here that we're seeing happen in Brazil is the rise of fascism and like a very specific type of fascism that is like MAGA fascism, I guess. But so Bolsonaro lost his election and. Well, that's what they say. Right. Exactly.

We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know we don't know we don't know we don't know we got according to who according to who yeah but it's all part of it is like what what you satirizing your show what the p doctor the only doctor i listened to and uh of course and this bolsonaro thing are all a part of this same trend of people feeling disaffected and lonely and feeling, you know, rejecting the kind of liberal mainstream status quo in many cases for like good reasons and in many cases for horrifying, you know, racist reasons. But they are like it's a growing it's a growing movement that it feels like we're not doing the right things to prevent. But what the latest kind of flare up of this is that after he lost the election, he kind of pulled a Trump and, you know, disappeared to Florida, but continued to spread wild conspiratorial nonsense to the point that supporters stormed Brazilian Congress over 2022 election loss was the number one story over the weekend on TMZ. What TMZ? None of the rioters are dating Pete Davidson, but that was their number one story. So TMZ is onto it. I think we should be too. But I don't know. He's

been, his protesters have been blocking roads, setting vehicles on fire, camping out outside military headquarters, urging the armed forces to intervene. And yeah, a lot of American media outlets are comparing this to January 6th, partly because we are incapable of seeing a global news story and not making it about ourselves. Yeah, well, but also when Steve Bannon is a Bolsonaro advisor, you know, exactly. And he was ringing that bell from over here, like last year saying, like, I don't know, looks like real contested. We'll see what happens.

I mean, he was his whole thing was like, I'm hoping for another January 6th in Brazil. And it's weird, weird too because like it it was everything about it was just kind of off like it was on a sunday so no officials were there so like they weren't necessarily like stopping the certification of an election or something they just like pulled up and just like ransacked the place and that was like a bad then there's even like a q q shaman q anon shaman like fucking like like analogous dude but in brazilian colors who also showed up there's like so much imitation happening too that's well every country has the same has one of every type of person right yeah yeah yeah exactly there's an italian one right one yeah they all have one

yeah but it's but it's funny too because a Spanish one. Yeah, they all have one. Yeah, but it's funny too, because they go into it thinking, they're like, this is what the people want. They're on this wave of self-righteousness. Even with the January 6th people, they're like, we're patriots or whatever. But the problem is, I think,

because they think they're on such a righteous course and then they objectively lose an election, it's like, well, I'm not gonna fucking say, was, maybe I didn't represent the will of the people. Right. They're going to double down and be like, no, fuck it. Put your face paint on. And now we'll storm the Capitol. Like, I don't know if you saw that one clip where the one guy's like, yeah, man, we can take that building. We can, we can get in there. And there's a guy behind him who's like, and then what? Like on January 6th. And that's kind of the mentality. It's like, yeah, you're angry. You pulled up, but because you're all there motivated by this, like, like all of these very disparate principles, like everyone's

there for their own fucking weird reason. Like it's, it's, they don't quite turn into like this hyper potent thing, but I will say this. I mean, obviously, Brazil has had a military dictatorship, so they're not far off being like, y'all get involved like like y'all did in the 60s to 80s, please. Yeah. And apparently the local police report to the governor,

who is a former Bolsonaro ally. And this was similarly to January 6th. This is being planned openly on the Internet for at least two weeks. I think even there was even more planning to the to the point that the buses were chartered that showed up for the for the storming of the Capitol. Like this is this is like, you know, the the Civil War reenactments. They're like, all right, this is what this is what you do when you lose an election. And then you have a right-wing dictator on the ballot. I love that everyone for all this stuff has to use social media and text messages. You know, like no one is like, hey, if we're going to be

secretive, obviously we can't text. And they all just text openly and then they get subpoenas. And it's like, look, it's all here. I have every text that they wrote to each other. They're like, I just can't help it. You know, it's convenient. I like the blue bubbles. We all got to have iPhones when we're planning this. The second they figure out their OPSEC, uh-oh, it's trouble.

But until then, yeah, their egos will continue to assist those who are seeking to hold them accountable. Keep texting. Yeah, put it on Get continue to assist those who are seeking to hold them accountable. Keep texting. Yeah, put it on Getter or whatever site. Yeah, Signal. I think there's something that is specifically social media driven about that specific impulse of, well, there must have been cheating going on because everyone I speak to and all the information that I see is, like, creating this world where he's going to win in a landslide. And that is because you are being fed an algorithm that is designed just for you based on what you want to see.

So, like, that, again, it's like a very, it's a lonely world by design and that it is it has been designed exactly and only for you and so it doesn't actually like where else are you going to find the people who agree with you but on social media because you can't go door to door right right just thinking of storm in the capitals nice to meet you neighbor just knocking on the door hi i just wanted to see what what you knew about a violent overthrow of the government, and I might be able to interest you in joining us this weekend. It's a quick yes or no. Yeah.

But the riot was condemned by pretty much everyone except for Steve Bannon and other mega folks who were like, Brazilian freedom fighters. That's what we're looking at. There were some quiet Republicans. Like, they're still the ones that are trying to figure out, like, where their soul is. Yeah. Or they're like, I'm not going to rah-rah it, but I can't say that's bad because then I'll get just absolutely, you know, assaulted on the Internet by the MAGA people.

But, yeah, we shall see. But Dan, it sounds like you, when we mentioned him earlier, like Steve's a friend. Yeah. Steve Bannon. Stevie B. Yeah. Steve's a good pal. He and I have the same skincare regimen.

Oh, great. And yeah, I just, he's a beautiful, fun guy. Love him. Yeah. Do the same dental routine too? Sleep with a bunch of jolly yeah and just I love me I'm like Steve how do you get those cool red spots all over you that jolly ranchers all night insides are on your outsides because

you're so evil that your body can't contain any kind of maladies yeah that's true power when yeah when your body starts turning itself inside out yeah when you look like um the emperor or whatever from star wars you're like cool you're in a good spot you look like the bad guy like the worst bad guy ever made in movies you look like him got that palpatine swag palpatine yeah okay rise and grind i'm on my Palpatine. Dude, I nailed him. You called him Palpatine? That's messed up, man. You heard it here.

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And we're back. And this is our JFK assassination conspiracy. This is our, yeah, for our generation. So so back in 2012 you might remember what a time i didn't but you guys did kim kardashian was flower bombed she was being interviewed on the red carpet someone came up and i i thought it was going to be more like violent than it was it was more of like she was sprinkled with flour. Her head did go back and to the left as, as it happened. But she was at an event launching her new perfume. It drew attention to the product and the seriousness of baking ingredient

based attacks. But like police were called and everything like Los Angeles County Sheriff's department says deputies were called to the London hotel because somebody threw powder on her. And, you know, you don't know that it's flour. Exactly. Could be the cocaine that her PR agent was doing. Tea. Also, that's an expensive prank.

Yes. Literally. Don't throw like a quarter pound of cocaine on somebody. Okay, do you. You got eight ounces of money. She bravely refused medical treatment at the time. Paramedics were called

to the hotel, but Kardashian refused medical treatment and described it as the most craziest, unexpected, weird thing that ever happened to me. Oh.

Do you want to, Jack, you said you've never seen it. Do you want to see the, do you want to see this moment? Oh, I watched the video for the story, yeah. I mean, the audio is just interesting because she's giving an interview and the person just utters for hag because it was like an anti fur protest,

supposedly, but she's giving an interview. She's talking, she's talking. Oh, here comes a person from the back with the bag. Here's the thing though. This is the beginning of kim kardashian's terrible acting career because knowing what we know now her her reactions are very like i knew that she was gonna she's like feigning outrage she's like oh no it's smiling. She's smiling right here. Yeah, she's smiling.

Oh, shit, it happened according to plan. Anyway, so what were you saying about this adventure? And then walks off with her head down, like almost like trying to stifle a laugh. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or it was kind of doing that thing where like someone threw a, like on a reality show where someone throws a drink on someone and they're not trying to let that phase them.

So they go, oh, oh, OK. Right. Right. And just wipe the drink off. Right before grabbing their hair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Absolutely. Anyways, we recently learned that it was all a PR stunt. She was totally in on it. Her PR agent and her planned the faux attack in order to create a media moment. agent and her planned the faux attack in order to create a media moment she supposedly told kim kardashian if we create media gold guess what's gonna happen everyone's going to be talking about your perfume everyone's going to buy it i did that happen i'm wearing it right now oh okay but i thought you were saying you always wear white diamonds you said yeah yeah it's a little it's a melange oh you're switching it up didn't tom cruise have something similar happen to him too where he got flower bombed

at the literally same year sprayed with a squirt gun i think was it i thought he got flower bomb too oh did he i think he did maybe this works so well or maybe he got glitter bombed he got i think he wait let's see there's a whole thing he said slibs get attacked glitter bomb flower bombed uh kim got the flower who is this i think lindsey lohan got hit with glitter and flower oh yeah what yeah what what some i don't know that looks like a liquid on tom crew what did you say? Maybe he did get wet. He did at one point get sprayed with a squirt gun. And I just remember because he has this like very friendly facade. But when he got sprayed with a squirt gun, he went away fast. It was. Yeah, because I thought this was a part of something about Mary. somebody has a screen I was like what is happening in this picture so yeah he got mad Lindsay Lohan and and the screen cap that they used of her glitter bomb attack looks like she's being hit with molten metal yeah or like a grenade went off I don't know this is interesting to me because it suggests that like there are those times where you hear a conspiracy theory like i had recently

heard that uh all the don't worry darling extreme media push controversy was all part of some 4d chess plan and it did seem to like it had a big opening weekend and then yeah kind of died off after that but that is a big opening weekend is usually kind of died off after that. But that is a big opening weekend is usually a testament to a really successful media push. And I don't know like this. So first of all, it's such a bad idea, like to say out loud, we're going to make people buy your perfume by dumping flour on your head. But it is also like the it was definitely like conceived by someone who was doing too many stimulants i think yeah whether it be coffee or or what it was but it's it does kind of open my mind to okay i'm going to be viewing any anything like this in the future through new glasses because of this right yeah

i mean it makes sense because so much is like celebrity is such a spectacle yeah that all you have to do is you know think a little bit ahead of how people are going to respond to what's happening to a celebrity and you get this kind of shit like all the time or like it would be like oh if someone does this then it's popping if you got all this talk around you know the stuff that was going on set or whatever people are going to be talking because i feel like is the the days we used to just take movies in there would be a billboard there would be a fucking bus bench ad there would be a couple music videos and you knew a movie was coming out right but i think in the age of like the internet everything it's like those same i don't think those work in the same way and they kind of have to do like run psyops on the fucking audience to get them

interested on some level right well related but not related i was thinking about the whole i don't know if you've all talked about it but the jen sh, right? So her bringing a fake bag to her sentencing. Everyone has been talking about that, and I'm like, as much as people are like, oh, this thing, I'm like, that's what these reality folks have been crafted to do. They've learned how to make every moment of their

like, anything happens. It's a moment. And so, like, I'm not surprised that someone would come out and say Kim Kardashian's flower bomb thing was a moment. For me, I'm not surprised that someone would come out and say Kim Kardashian's flower bomb thing was a moment for me. I'm sorry, but I'm laughing because as I'm looking through the photos, there's these people vacuuming up the flower. And it's taking me down every time I see someone with an actual vacuum vacuuming up the flower. But all that to say. Crime scene cleanup. I'm not surprised. Yeah. Clean it up. Yeah. I'm not surprised at all. Yeah. But I'm curious to hear from you guys, any any Zyke gang.

What are stories like this that you always suspected were an inside job? There have been rumors that Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian's sex tape leaks were both, you know, things that they did that, you know, what, whether it was an inside job or not, both like exploded their careers and to the stratosphere, you know,

so Paris Hilton say that wasn't, she wasn't a part of that. She has come out and said that, but it's always been rumored that. So, right. Cause, cause Joe was,

that wasn't, yeah. Cause I feel like the guy she was with is like a total yeah okay predator right yeah i don't know what other things i mean i i'm not saying this is an inside job but when the caitlyn jenner vanity fair cover came out right when she came out that was the day like the the renewal of the patriot act was going on and there was a lot of outrage because Edward Snowden was like, you know, like,

you know what the NSA is kind of up to. Right. There was a huge conversation around surveillance. Uh, but the debate, like on like the day before there's all this debate going on. And then that, like they were like trying to get the votes right.

And they finally got it through, just served as a great, I was more of an example of a great, like pop culture distraction. Well, something really fucking like,, despicable is happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I always thought.

Like, when you look at the dates of it, you're like, wow. That's, I think, just more serendipitous for the military-industrial complex and surveillance state. Right. Then Caitlyn Jenner ends up being a Republican politician. Yeah. And then at the end, it's like, it wasn't op. Right. just so you

know i feel like julia fox was never interested in kanye but that's not necessarily something i think was a setup that just seems like self-serving like social climbing of the lowest common denominator variety yeah but i don't know what other you know like was it tom cruise jumping up and down on the couch that felt contrived that's it or was that real you know like was it tom cruise jumping up and down on the couch that felt contrived that's it or was that real you know like what where do we land on that i think that was a dean scream level like the media ran with something because they were ready to pile on you're doing the opposite and because he when you picture that moment in your mind, what do you see? Like, do you see him jumping up and down on the couch? I see it.

Like, it's a trampoline? Yeah, in my mind, I think. Why? So, what actually happened, he jumped on the couch, stood there for a second, and then jumped off. Like, when you go back and watch it, it's somewhat underwhelming. He just hopped on. Yeah, he hopped on and hopped on he like i'm not saying the the version that came through into the like collective consciousness was earned by just like his intent being intense to a degree that

it's like well that person's really not human and their career is built on them portraying humans up to that point and since then tom cruise has been like all right what if my thing is just i'm the most intense person and i will die for you to watch my movie but i i think i don't think the media had to work too hard on that one as opposed to the dean scream i but i i do think that that one wasn't it was just people were ready to be like, this person is, we're out on Tom Cruise. Right. Okay.

Yeah. That's my theory. Anyways. But yeah. Did he say, I love my wife, or did he say, I love that woman?

I love that woman. I believe is what I remember. Yeah. That was, that's a lot. Very believable. Yeah. There was a lot of, that's a lot of drugs, very believable yeah there's a lot of that's a lot of drugs honey yeah yeah i don't know or thetans you know yeah i think he's just got the natural

he's got that ceo energy you know yeah because he's like yeah if he weren't an actor he'd be like some billionaire who like oh for sure you know like let like millions of people die like under his watch but i don't know know. 40% of his day clapping, you know, like just that. Right. All right. Well, speaking of other movie stars, Mel Gibson is reportedly making Passion of the Christ 2 Cruise Control. As the writer JM put it, it's not called Cruise Control. It should be Christ Control.

Yeah. JM put it. It's not called cruise control. It should be Christ control. Yeah. But he's apparently just months away from making a sequel to his torture porn blockbuster, The Passion of the Christ. He had talked about the... Wait, what's it about? So this is interesting.

So he's talked before about the project and said that it's going to be wild and a vast theological experience that is an acid trip, which sounded cool to me, much cooler than the first page of the Christ. I don't know if y'all saw that, but that is the least movie like the anti-Semitism was a little wacky in that one. Oh, my God. And there's just like no there. there there's no plot it's just a person getting beat until yeah the thing and look and jim caviezel is doing great now yeah it really sent him on he also i'm pretty sure got struck by lightning while he was on the cross during the filming of that movie it's like how many signs do you need like this is this is the sort of thing y'all believe in. How many signs that a God is up there not wanting this to happen do you need,

if that's what you believe in? But anyways, the idea is that it will happen in the time between Jesus dying and Jesus rising in some heaven like heaven, hell, nether world thing. So it's just going to be a totally different genre. It's going to be.

Hey, all right. Hey, man, I'd love to see someone really take this way. Religious, their religion and treat it with the proper sanctity. Yeah.

And respect. It deserves being like, Hey man, what about between Friday and Sunday though? What the fuck was, what was going on? And that's right. Huh? He was in the cave. Yeah. respect it deserves being like hey man what about between friday and sunday though what the fuck was what was going on and that's right huh he was in the cave saturday yeah yeah do you think it starts off like friday like it started like the first thing you see is friday it'll start out with but but but but but it's friday yeah but then they yeah then they have him

what like in a i don't know it's i can't believe like someone's fine and whatever yeah there's always somebody wants to make jesus stuff yeah so there's a there's a history of people trying to make sequels of this because mel gibson can't like copyright the story of jesus or anti-semitism so, you know, lots of people have been like, hey, this is a recipe that works. So there was a Christian film producer who tried to crowdfund $40 million to make a sequel. It didn't really go anywhere. Most fucked up attempt to make a follow up to The Passion of the Christ came from the original film screenwriter, Benedict Fitzgerald. So, Benny Fitz, after the movie came out, was not getting any job offers, which is,

you know, it is one of the most successful movies of all time. But on the other hand, the film was, let's say, controversial and also literal garbage. It's one of the worst movies. But also, I was just like curious, like, what was his backstory? Was he working? Like, did he write Lethal Weapon 4 and then Mel Gibson roped him into this? Right. Not a ton of credits, but is from, like, have you ever seen Quiz Show?

Movie Quiz Show? Yeah. Where it's about... With Ray Fiennes and John Turturro? Yeah. quiz show movie quiz show where it's with ray fines and john totoro yeah and this guy who is like from a famous intellectual family becomes a famous quiz show contestant and gets all the answers but he's cheating and like that's what it seems like this person is the So his dad is a famous poet critic named Robert Fitzgerald. And when he was a kid, Flannery O'Connor babysat him. So he's like literary royalty. And this was kind of, he worked on a couple of TV shows and then this was his biggest thing. And then everyone's like, oh, man, we

really didn't like that. So he hasn't been able to get work. But he was able to get a big payday by saying, actually, OK, what about prequel? Any any interest in a prequel? And everyone's like, hell no. But he was able to raise money to make the movie by turning to a mexican drug cartel okay signed an agreement with them was was oh they signed agreements yeah exactly was shockingly incurious about like what what are these people where's all this money coming from from these people that nobody in hollywood's ever heard of. And the cartel sued him over some money he couldn't pay back. No! The cartel sued him? Yes.

I like that the cartel's like, hey man, get a business agreement. This guy's the best. We don't know this guy. We don't know how he moves. So the cartel signed over the rights to the movie to two men, one of whom wanted the other to give up his half of the script and when he refused the other guy kidnapped his brother with the ransom being a faxed note agreeing to give up his half of the passion prequel oh my

this is the movie this is the movie i don't understand why someone's not making this a movie just be writing what is happening to your stupid head. This guy runs afoul of the cartel. There's fucking kidnapping over the rights to the Passion of the Christ prequel. This is the movie. Why is no one making this? Is this optioned? Has someone optioned this?

Because we should. This is actually a fantastic movie that you could make. And you don't have to tell them the article. Yeah, exactly. The script was then sold for $1 million to a producer who was immediately questioned by the DEA. And then when an arrest was made, the government, like the U.S. government, claimed the rights to 10%

of the future profits of Mary, Mother of Christ, the name of the movie, because it was going to be all about Mary, which they then ended up losing in court. Like they got sued to give up their rights to it. And then after all that movie was never made because the script had become tainted, but this is the legacy of a passion of Christ sequel, which is like on one level it's like the titanic sequel

like it's a thing you would joke about it feels impossible but yeah i should i just not a lot i gotta see this movie now about this fucking guy going to the cartel to make a film that is so awful and the downward spiral that ensues. That's where I'm at. But I just like that the pivot was, alright then, let's do it right after they take him off the cross. Until Easter Sunday. We'll do that.

Okay, we burned the prequel. Nobody has the rights to the acid trip in the fucking cave. In the tomb, as it were. That's right. So, we'll see well i'll be eagerly awaiting that talking to satan the snake the serpent do you think what is that gonna look like you know what i mean how do you even do that that won't i feel like even christian people who fucked with the first one might even be offended by whatever the director's depiction is of all this

other stuff oh for sure it's gonna be wildly offensive and boring at the same time like the first one. Like, is there going to be a scene where he's like, you know what I mean? Like going into like a wormhole. They're spinning the camera. And then he lands in like a dark void.

Where am I? Welcome to hell, Jesus. You're mine unless you can beat me in this fiddling contest. James Brown gets a whole sequence because he's down there entertaining. Welcome to hell. And the doors open and it's just. Jesus is like, what is going on? I mean, that would be in a way. If you said there's a fucking sequence where Jesus goes in a fucking wormhole to a black

void, which is hell. And then he has a dance battle with James Brown. Yeah. The lights pop on. Yeah. I'm like, okay, look, I don't fuck with mel gibson but this is so absurd i might have to torrent the illegal version of the film because i might have to see that yeah i would watch it just to laugh yeah yeah oh man well so wait would jim caviezel come back for

this i have to imagine i don't think he's gonna object jim caviezel he's gone full right wing mega yeah what's that gonna i know i mean talk about controversy on top of controversy hey patch of the christ too and it'll probably do extremely well from conflict marketing yeah so called electric tumulu yeah It is funny to me that it is funny to me that they blamed for for the flower bombing, like their made up villain was animal rights person. Like they're just always they they know they get blamed. Yeah. Yeah. They have the 4D chess mind to know that like the media wants to blame. They won't look too deep into that. They would love to blame an animal rights person. Right. Yeah. There it is.

But yeah, I mean, the first Passion of the Crisis is probably the best example of conflict marketing. That movie is a monster, monster hit. Yeah. And I don't... Churches were being like, it hit. Yeah. And I don't, like, they were, churches were being like, it is your duty. You will go to hell

if you don't go out and see this movie. Because isn't it in Aramaic, too, and shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember that part in a whole bunch of different languages. Yeah.

All right. Well, can't wait to see the Shroud of Turin. Like, is he going to use the Shroud? Is, like, does he tie that up in, like, a nice head wrap or something? Right. Like Rambo style?

Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. We're starting our own. Yeah, the three of us are about to write this script, John. We have to write it. We have to write this. This has to get written.

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