The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 328 (Best of 7/1/2024-7/5/2024)

Episode Date: July 7, 2024

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Hey, hello. Hello. Welcome, welcome. I have no rhymes nor nicknames, really. I'm just Jordan. And I feel terrible because I bought you a bottle of Sambuca. I didn't know you were so averse to anise. Doesn't do it. My welcome gift is...

Like anise, it sounds like your ex rather than like anise. Anise is, I think, what it is. Anise, anise. Well, it's... I don't know. You hear it both ways. I feel like whenever you're watching like chef shows, there's like a person who went to like Europe once and they say one thing. Oh, so in Europe, it's Uranus.

Yeah, exactly. It's an ass. Comedians and hosts of knowledge. All right. OK, yeah. Sorry. I was doing my best Kindler. I was giving it a shot.

I was giving it a shot. How are you guys doing? What's going on? What's how Chicago? How's the weather? What's going on over there? It's a dream. I don't know.

I barely leave the house. What's the deep point? Yeah, are we in wet bulb territory over there? Here's the thing. You're talking to the two of us. I can't remember the last time I did small talk about the weather. I haven't spoken to a human being that's not Dan or my wife probably in three years. I mean that very genuinely.

And you're hundreds of thousands of listeners. Very normal. Very normal podcast guy energy. I love it. I have to do small talk because in the same way, I only talk to Jack, my wife, my baby, and the random neighbor. And I always fail at small talk. They're like, how you been? I'm like, tell me about your random neighbor i'm sweating what's going on with them just good you know

just uh asking questions you know that i don't like answering because i don't like small talk all the time because i'm always in a light form of panic but yeah uh guys knowledge fight it's a fantastic show i love when comedians help me understand things because i typically learn through the language of laughter or absurdity or irony and the way y'all do that is absolutely fantastic it's top draw and there's so much happening with alex jones all the time that i'm always like interacting through like maybe viral clips or the headlines that there's so much you know you forget that this guy's talking all the time and there's so much to parse through and half the time even with the news articles I read they're not really giving the full picture because he says so much and so much is going on so I'm really glad that

you're on because I have a lot of questions wow and like mainly like how do you guys the show started with the beginning of 2017 yeah i think early january 2017 yeah it was pretty pretty close after the uh 2016 election it's just that was where the the curiosity really became too much right right to ignore yeah almost eight years then that's yeah it's massive i mean like you know francesca and i we talk about the news enough and that's already just life-changing and debilitating in its own way i can't imagine doing alex jones are you able to find energy living in this country i mean i sort of joked about like you know leaving but whenever i sort of am up against the crazy of the craze, I'm a little, there's always a part of me, maybe it's the

majority of me. That's like, you can have it just, you know, like if I do interviews and I get a person who's like, yep, the ISIS tries to recruit me. They call me every single day. I'm like, isn't that just a phone company trying to get you to switch plans like like nope it's isis and i'm like you know what lady sure yeah just goodbye like but yeah the fact that you guys my question is first if info wars goes under do you stop knowledge i didn't want to go there quite yet but yeah okay i'm so sorry no no no no actually how about we do it this way i will cut the both of you off and I'm going to ask Dan a question. Oh, all right. How do you do it?

It's been eight years. You listen to Alex Jones. How do you not lose your mind? I guess I was crazy to begin with. There's one. But no, two, it's not really Alex Jones. I think that we were listening to him for him at the beginning, but there's so many offshoot things that you can pay attention to that you get a way in from him. Right, right. And so it can be a real bummer to recognize the real world piece of this.

Like, politics is real and it does affect people and and that that is that is terrible what alex represents but you can you could find some you know what batty stuff too and that that helps you keep your sanity you find the crazy stuff and then uh you know it is kind of interesting to take like a like the debate or whatever in context for us, because a lot of people are panicking. They're like, ah, Joe Biden, he looks terrible. And and my instant reaction through our lens is kind of like, oh, well, he should have been plumping. What he needed to do was inject himself with bags of blood in order to gain strength for the debate. See, in our world, that's what Alex

would claim he was doing if he was doing well. So because he's not doing well, he must not be plumping. The right was setting it up. Yeah, they didn't buy enough, whatever. Silver pills, whatever the shit. Colloidal silver, okay?

It's the silver bullet. You know your stuff. yeah look man i'm big into nutraceuticals man it's how i tell i'm growing my hair back it's not great thanks man i'm 22 uh we're gonna get to know you guys a little bit more but again like we said we're gonna be talking all things alex jones uh with our wonderful guests but first we'd like to get to know our guests a little bit better. So, Dan, Jordan, what's something from your search history

recently that's revealing about who you guys are, what you're into right now? I just think my search history would be indistinguishable from a curious bigot. You know? So, I can't even imagine

what is in there. Phrenology, right or wrong. or wrong yeah exactly got to know more right right right right right how to apply for black jobs what are those exactly yeah what about you jordan uh for a bit well my search history is just me and my wife uh occasionally joking around with my last search, I believe, was is pepper a rock? Because we were we were grinding it through the thing, you know, the pepper grinder. And I jokingly told her because she was also grinding salt. You also grind salt, which is a rock.

A rock. Yeah. So I was like, oh, did you know Pepper was a rock too? And then she forced me to Google it. But whenever you're forced to Google something that you are 100% certain was a joke, you suddenly question yourself. I'm like, wait, is there a form of Pepper that is a rock? Yeah.

That I'm going to find? You know, Google's AI. That's my Google search history. Right. They probably would tell you it's a rock. Yeah. It's a corn. It's like a pepper plant. It comes's a tree, right? It's a corn. It's like a peppercorn.

It comes off a tree, don't it? I don't know. It's a seed. Yeah, it's a peppercorn. It's corn from the stalk. Yeah, the big black corn. I don't know.

Why is it mixed with salt? That's what I want to know. Is that the type of pepper you like? The BBC pepper? Big black corn. Don't you have a history of thinking things are rocks that aren't? Generally, yes. You also believe that Ebony was a rock because of Skyrim.

Skyrim made me think if you can make armor out of it, then it's probably a rock. I don't get why this doesn't make perfect sense to everybody. Oh, shit. Yeah, I mean, I get that where, like, yeah, the reality of a video game kind of begins to blend in with your lived life. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know if the developers would really make me look that

stupid about this. It's wood? No. I had wooden armor this whole time. All right, Gary, what's something that you think is underrated? Five Guys. Wow. I like that. I think Five Guys is the best fast food out there.

It's not up there. Nobody considers it. They'll say Shake Shack or you're In-N-Out or you'll go I like Five Guys over In-N-Out. Okay, cool. So I would say that it doesn't get enough notoriety as it should, but I think it could be

on the rise. It's the fries. It's the fries. That's the other part. Made to order. Boardwalk fries. Like I said, I don't know. I didn't grow up near a boardwalk, but that's what other part made to order those fries made to order yeah boardwalk fries like i said i don't know i i didn't grow up near a boardwalk but everyone that's what they call wait what are they what are boardwalk fries uh distinguished with i don't know i just know that's what they call i was going along with it you had me i was like but i think like they're like hand-cut fries uh fresh potatoes it's's good. And I don't know.

Pallavi, have you had Five Guys? I'm now vegan. But when I was vegetarian, I tried the grilled cheese from Five Guys and the one from In-N-Out. And I think the Five Guys one was better. Okay. We'll take it. They're okay. Now, I'll go along with that.

But, I mean, they are a burger place, but you don't eat meat. So, that's fine. But it's still a valid review for vegans and vegetarians. Twice cooked fries. My favorite fast food is Taco Bell because that is technically Indian food. It is so important to Indian culture. When they got rid of the Mexican pizza pizza that was a hate crime against Indian people I have been to movie premieres in LA

where the bar after had Taco Bell catered to it yeah so Indian people love Taco Bell we love it man we love it my sister not Indian but is obsessed with Taco Bell is her number one

it's wild too because like people haven't had with taco bell like when you find out it's almost like you're like oh your parents are we we emigrated from the same country like another person who's like mentally ill with taco bell obsession yeah it's but it's like you know when you get your when you start when you start driving the first thing you do is oh now i could get things that i want and so i'm like oh i like, oh, I'm going to get fast food. So I go through the different phases. So I had a Taco Bell phase for sure. And when you have Taco Bell, and I haven't had it in a while, but as soon as you have it once, you start craving it. I did that with White Castle, Taco Bell. Oh man, get the crave case with some friends that really taste yourself.

Exactly. So it was all that. But Five Guys would be my underrated pick. All right, Gary. And that's, yeah. Your problematic fave. Yeah, problematic fave. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Five Guys, Obama's favorite burger. But what's something you think is overrated?

Overrated? Drinking on an airplane, where I've been doing this show for so long that this was an underrated for me i think a few years ago and now that i've aged into my mid-30s i'm reneging on that right because i used to be oh it's like time travel it's great but now it is you get more dehydrated it's like time travel it's like oh you're blacking out. And they've gotten the hollering that they'll do now. But no, it's it really is.

First of all, you get to hydrated more. Yeah. Also, you do have to like it just messes up the following day. And also, I like to drink on a cadence, you know, where it's like, oh, I want to retain whatever level of buzz that i have yeah maintaining your bus yes yes but but not dipping into tiredville and you know these as uh francesca referred to them people do coke i mean once once you get older it's you basically just swap it out people just do cocaine people do cocaine so they can drink at us after a certain age i noticed or they're like

dude i had like three drinks dude i think i'm gonna go to bed like just do a butt man just fucking come right but all right all right man yeah i mean how much oh wait it's my weekend with my kids tomorrow fuck i don't actually and you're like dude this is way too much by the way my underrated was actually doing cocaine on planes i think that that's fine i'm just talking about power move right now yeah just in your seat just you don't mind in the middle man in the middle yeah yeah if you're in a middle you get to do a bump and ask the hey man you guys you got some keys on you dude yeah like a set of keys or like a parliament i left my security but no yeah i actually speaking of drinking on planes i had a friend once drink on a plane, like on his way home, forgot that he drove to the airport to keep costs down.

So then had to Uber back to his home and then Uber back to the airport the next day to get his car because a moron, but not irresponsible. Exactly. We salute people who don't drunk drive, even if they make their lives infinitely more complicated. Thank you. Don't be out there drinking and driving. It's bad, according to law enforcement. Okay, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about Joe Biden. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that.

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then this is the show for you. We're your hosts, Diosa and Mala, and you might recognize us from And we're back and again aside from the supreme court uh dooming this nation to an eventual dictatorship the story that's consumed like a lot of the news cycle is biden's future that debate was difficult to watch for those that had not quite let their brain accept the reality that was visible to most people that Biden is in fact old. Um, just shock and horror from people like, I, I didn't know it was going to be like that. It's like, well, I get it. Like the first time you see like your grandpa's wrinkly ass for the first time, you're kind of like, Oh damn. Like that's a, that's a, that's a dark place we go. But what did you think was going to happen? Where did you think this road ended? That's a that's a dark place we go. But what did you think was going to happen? Where did you think this road ended? And the DNC just couldn't keep up the gaslighting. And it became obvious in a serious way that, you know, like Biden continues to age or continues to decline as he ages, just like any human being. But the debate was a turning point for many, including a lot of establishment Democrats who are now calling for him to bow out of the race. But the Bidens and the administration have a plan to turn this thing around. And sadly, none of it involves a fucking time machine or

showing up with compound V from the boys, because I feel like those might be the only ways that you could maybe do something here. I know earlier we were kind of contemplating what other mythical substances maybe Joe Biden could ingest. Whatever they gave She-Hulk. Oh, shit. Yeah. Like some gamma rays or some shit or whatever. Hell yeah. Is that how She-Hulk happened? Right? I don't know. Be the Hulk.

I'm not a scientist. I am. be the whole i'm not a scientist yeah i am i am yeah the thing with biden it's like it wasn't like he went into this where they thought he was gonna just improve like all of a sudden there yeah you're just it's time is his worst enemy 100 but like on a daily basis because he's sundowning like they have yeah they've commented about him sundowning. It's, it's bad. Yeah. It's again. And it's sad.

It's bad. And it's, yeah, it's sad. Nobody should watch this. And it's not like the Democrats would allow someone to stay in office longer than they need to, because they're so caught up in their, Oh,

wait, hold on. Dianne Feinstein has something to say about that. Has entered the chat yeah you know it's like trump is old too he's i mean yeah he's but you can even see him declining slightly he's even slight yeah yeah trump's like neurosyphilis has been with him from his 20s or what you know what i mean like he is we're used to that uh biden like his team was the one who suggested this debate they were like everything around him is enabling yeah they should have done it like earlier in the day

you know what i mean right when he wakes up yeah maybe they're trying to you know purposely sabotage him in a way you know the more i mean i mean the if you're on his team, wouldn't you say the best thing to do would be to not put him in front of the camera? Yeah. How could you avoid that as much as possible? At the same time, right now,

he's going to lose. It's kind of what sports coaches do. Oh, you think you should be a starter? Okay. You're starting. And then when they lose the game, they're like, so what sports coaches do. Like, oh, you think you should be a starter? Okay, you're starting. And then when they lose the game, like, so what do you think now? Okay, that's what I thought. I don't know. Hopefully that's not the logic being used.

As they say, this is the most important fucking election of our time. Yeah, maybe their goal is to have him step. Maybe that's it, to force his hand to step down. I don't think that's the case. Because he just came back from that Camp David meeting with the rest of his family. And they were like, we're going to keep doing it. We're doing it. I don't think it's the case. like like he just came back from that Camp David meeting with the rest of his family and they were like, we're going to keep doing it. We're doing it. I don't think it's the case. I think what it is is arrogance. Yeah, I think the Democratic Party is like you're going to vote blue no matter who. We don't give a shit about you. And we just care about our own pockets. So they don't give a they don't give they really underestimate how stubborn American people can. Or like, don't just make me do this.

Totally out of touch. What the fuck are you trying to do? But anyway, so they have a plan. And it's eight steps. Okay. To somehow. You can't even take eight steps. Like, bro.

Be fair. Be fair. He could take a couple. Eight steps with help. Yeah. How about that? In the wrong direction. With Jill, easily eight steps.

Now. Staring into the sun. Step one. Quote, dismiss the bedwetting. It's their first step. The official White House, this is from Axios, who is speaking to people in the administration, quote, the official White House and campaign line is that this is as much ado about, it's just much ado about nothing. Biden allies are cranking out data and pushing out surrogates to insist he had one bad night, mostly because of a scratchy voice and over preparation and gray matter deteriorating.

When someone is being accused of being old, don't use the term bedwetting in a plan. Because now I'm just thinking about Biden wetting the bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that is immediately where man goes. Yeah. I mean. Not the best rhetoric here for this one the second one uh get get some good polls out biden allies are circulating polls and focus group results showing the debate did little to change the dynamics of their race

they're basically saying that like if you believe the polls voters thought biden lost the debate and seemed too old. But again, there's little evidence they're moving like fast to Trump either. I think that's true. Like, nobody watched that and was like, oh, Trump just got all of Biden's support. The thing that people came away with, at least I think what we saw was Biden's decline is becoming more and more apparent and in a way that's uncomfortable. And Trump continues to lie in these actually absurd ways, which a lot of the emphasis isn't really on that, again, because we've become so used to the lying that now it's just mostly about being like, but what about Joe Biden? Obviously, Trump still fucking incoherent and not making sense.

But that's the problem is that people didn't people weren't moved because the whole reason that Biden's team suggested it was to show off that he is still great at these debates. And he didn't move the needle on that because he was so incoherent. he forgets what he's talking about just to just throw in, even if, you know, he's talking about Medicare and he forgets and then, then he could go off and just start talking about something that, that might not have to do with Medicaid. Just a go-to just like he rambles off and he just, you know, when he just trails off and you're like, you got to worry about how you pay for it and taxes,

man. And then, yes, you know, taxes just weren't my, he were, my dad and I used to, taxes. Just words. Key words. My dad and I used to sneak into Madison Square Garden. He would say he was a photographer.

I love number one dad podcast. Yeah. I was a reporter for Sports Illustrated for kids. And I used to meet. And then it was like, all right, Joe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Everybody's impression of Joe Biden now is like Rick from Rick and Morty. It's like a corn pop, Jack. Yeah. It's a stream of consciousness uh you know trump and trump is a professional at the i mean you can't be better than trump at debates it's as good as you could be it's just energetic it's like a roast he's a shit talker yeah it's a roast master you know he could go on you know whatever in the netflix roast and do it and he could compete with everybody because he yeah put people in their place it's sad i was gonna say like my my idea for this a part throw it out bring in hunter hold on i'm only at two everybody is gonna vote for that guy he's the most relatable one he's sick he loves guns he'll bring over the republicans you know

what i mean yeah come on tax evasion second amendment rights what happened to us huh you can't have a gun because you got a couple of drug anyway that's the ladies anyways allow me to even finish you're only a quarter of the way through this masterful plan number three allow me to even finish you're only a quarter of the way through this masterful plan number three and they love this one warn of chaos as it relates to the convention biden allies are making plain in private conversations the perils of an open convention and the risk of picking a democrat even more unpopular than biden namely vice president kamala harris that is so fucked up it is it's like why did you pick her i mean it makes it like it looks like it makes the vp pick that specific vp pick look even more cynical when

he's like well i did it to just sort of be able to get as many people of color to vote for me that's sort of why i did it because of woke yeah yeah right or but not but not even that of just like the pure like mathematics vote counting of being like, well, if I have a woman of color running as my VP pick, that logic would say that then maybe that will get me some more votes. Now, do I think she's qualified outside of physically being a woman's not even really present. They've hidden her. Oh, 100%. They've put her away. Unless, yeah, like, well, she's getting out there a lot more now because someone has to get out there. Number four, limit dissent. So this is more just getting orchestrating supportive tweets by former presidents like Clinton and Obama. Sure. I don't know if that helps.

Like, no one's being like, oh, yeah. What? Did you see Obama's tweet about it his tweet had a bad night or something he had a it started with listen we've all had bad and nancy pelosi when she was being interviewed had the same thing it was a bad night and then she went on to try to defend him but she was incoherent too like yeah it is so bad when like it's like doing stand up and people are being like, the crowd was rough.

You know, when you get off stage, you're just like, fuck, it was that bad. Do you think Biden knows he did that bad, badly? From what it sounds like, he's been coddled for the entire administration with people not really

letting a lot of bad news penetrate like that. Yeah. So some people also talks blame his advisors for also being like such in their own echo chamber that they don't have a sec i mean i'm look at what's i'm just in general when you see what the administration has done you're like oh these people don't talk to anyone outside of like the five people they talk to every day and that's where america is it's not even talking to people those advisors want to be in power that's it like it's the same thing with like diane feinstein her like entire staff wanted to be in like have jobs you know what i mean

and that's why like none of them were like step the fuck down or or we're covering mitch mcconnell even like they're all like taking care of these old people who need to retire yeah yeah and like be put in a home at worst you know it's like if they don't if they go down i'll have to do something else rather than coasting on the you know coattails of power of one of the most powerful people on earth yeah yeah number five i was gonna say how many 83 year olds are where i mean you brought up a point how many 83 year olds areolds are working? I mean, you brought up a point, Paul. How many 83-year-olds are working right now in America? I just watched that documentary, Ren Faire. Oh, my God.

And the owner of the Texas Renaissance Faire is 85. But also, if you saw him, you're like, dude, this guy shouldn't even be at an Olive Garden, let alone running an entire business. When you're here, you're not family. Hey, what happened to Hospitaliano, huh happened to it what happened to us number five keep elected leaders close so this is now this is the white house talking about how they want like chuck schumer and hakeem jeffries to basically be like look i know you guys are worried that biden being so unpopular affects down ballot things like Senate races and

house races, which are also equally as important. But apparently they're really just trying to say like, look, man, it's going to be all good. It's going to be all good. Which again, that's not a, this isn't a strategy at all. Number six, get the donor class to chill. Quote, Jeffrey Katzenberg and other top Biden backers are working the phones to reassure the deep pockets while the campaign and DNC are keeping keep turning out fundraising appeals and highlighting successes. But it sounds like a lot of donors are also like, Jesus Christ. I think that's the main thing. The public doesn't matter. It's the donors thataves to get as much, you know, messaging out there as possible to make up for maybe the lack of in-person things or whatever.

related top officials were that Biden was as vigorous as he was at a rally in North Carolina the day after the debate. They're looking for as many opportunities as possible to show that he's still on his game. Cut to him probably lifting weights in public or something. I want President Biden to take the presidential fitness test like I fucking had to. Yeah. Okay. If you can run a mile in 12 minutes. Yeah. Yo, is that your mile time? If you could walk a mile. That was mine. I would protest. I was like 15 minutes.

I was trying to do makeup on the running. Shuttle run though? I was fucking up the shuttle run. What was the shuttle run again? That was where you're moving the beanbags back and forth from one side to another. It was a lot. Yeah.

The physical fitness test. That's what we called it. Did everyone have a rope? We did have a rope. We also had guys had to do pull-ups and we had to do hangs or something on the bar. I remember those two things.

It was pull-ups, push-ups. Was there one about stretching? Yeah. I killed the stretching. I was so good at stretching.-ups. Was there one about stretching? Yeah, I killed the stretching. Oh, so good at stretching. Limber. Bad at running. We didn't have to stretch.

Maybe that was a... That's why I pulled something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I pulled my leg. So yeah, I don't know how they're going to... Looking for as many opportunities as possible to show that he's still on his game. I feel like that could go wrong

really quickly and then the campaign the debate was like yeah that's what i'm saying like they're gonna have to do something so controlled like he's gonna lift movie weights or something yeah or it is gonna be like it really is gonna be like the boys where they fake everything yeah they're like yo we gotta have him stop a fucking bank robbery with his just fucking just barehanded okay and maybe that will help the numbers and then finally number eight this is great quote ignore slash engage the media that is so funny so basically what they're saying is they're ignore the haters or people who are observing that this is maybe not the best path forward and simultaneously engage other journalistic outlets like axios like they're doing in this article to talk about how everybody's got this whole thing mixed up i mean like i guess this is a plan but again it's still

all rooted in making people deny what they are seeing with their bare eyes you know what i mean like no he's fine he's actually very vital he's quite spry it's like no i i don't that's not what i'm getting at the very least you could like make the platform and i keep saying this the thing people want to vote for rather than proving like this husk of a person is like the thing that you're voting for but again that we've seen what happened in 2020. There were a lot of promises made. Some kept, a lot not. And yeah, just like, there's no talk of policy really at all, aside from being like, and I get it, the very real threat of a Trump presidency and our already fucked up Supreme Court, that's not lost on many

people. But to just constantly be like, we need him to get excited. And then just like be like, our solution is just getting people to pretend that he isn't what they're seeing is the way out of it. Okay, I have two questions. Yes. One, if you had to fool the American public into thinking that you were more like, mentally, like a cute, like aware, or like you had to prove prove vitality vitality who would you who would be like a witness and what would you do like what like event or or display of strength would you do i'm thinking you know in like american ninja warrior shit where they knock people off i'm thinking I want to do one of those. I want to train for one of those.

That's American Gladiators. American Gladiators. Yeah, whatever they do. Joust. Joust. I want to do that. I feel like that would be fun. No, I feel like you have to engineer.

It has to be a full-on psy-op. You know what I mean? Not a stunt. The person on the other side, I'd have somebody with a string to pull them off at the right time. To do like matrix wire stunts and shit. Yeah, like he blew them off that platform. I mean, like I'm thinking like-

What's the thing in Billy Madison? It's like the academic, like it's a full-fledged academic and physical. So then that would be, that should be the debate. I choose business ethics for Donald Trump. that'd be perfect so they i mean that's the way they need to they need to do to go head to head and then whoever wins that that's what should decide who's president really yeah yeah that or something where it's like they get like logan paul to like meet the

president but like he did he interviewed trump no but you need biden to be like come on man he like hits him so hard on the back he's like i dude he actually compressed discs in my back that was the craziest shit dude and i was about to and i'm a boxer wrestler i think he offered to have biden on but biden didn't take him up on it because he did interview trump and i think he offered biden the same chance and that's the one who fights, right? Logan Paul. He's a wrestler. He's a wrestler. Oh, that's the wrestler. Jake Paul. He's frustratingly good at wrestling. He's like

a really good heel in wrestling. Jake Paul's the boxer? Yeah, UFC or boxing. Yeah, boxing. But Jake Paul was supposed to fight Tyson. So Biden steps in and not Jake Paul out. And that's pay-per-view. i'm as good as mike tyson yeah yeah jake paul has been showing up on fox too he's been saying weird shit on fox yeah yeah so

that's what i like i like that also who would i would pick um for you guys for gary i would pick your dad to say how how aware how strong and aware like he, if he got you in a Madison Square Garden, I feel like he could testify to your strength. I mean, look, the DNC have mastered the con over the decades. I don't know if they're, I mean, but the ideas are getting stale.

Like, to the point, there was this article that was saying that Joe Biden's grandkids are now saying that they're like, they have ideas about how to help. And like, well, I have like some social media followers. Maybe I can talk to other influencers online. And like none of them have like a truly substantial following. We see a bunch of public Venmo requests from his grandchildren.

Yeah, exactly. But then again, the other thing, too, is like while many, again, are calling for someone else to run in Biden's place, you have the big question of money. What happens if you drop in a Gretchen Whitmer or a Gavin Newsom as like sort of like the headlines are Biden drops out, Kamala Harris is the only person that can seamlessly use the hundreds of millions of dollars the campaign has raised so far. I thought you can use that. They have more than they need often. And so that just goes into a big slush fund. It can go into a PAC or something like that. But if you're trying to fund another candidate, the way it works's like the way it works is like you could max out at like $2,000 donations at a time.

And if you're trying to buy airtime, if it's, if you're buying, uh, airtime for someone that isn't the actual candidate, like if it's the candidates, uh, campaign, not buying airtime, airtime is more expensive. So like things just become more expensive and a lot more like the, the, the federal elections, the regulations around it basically make it very complex to figure out how to do that. And even if they did, it would only be like a fraction of the money. So just in terms of that, like another campaign has to start from zero, which is like the hard part. Now I'm sure they could, I'm sure the other idea is like, well, they could refund a lot of donations and then ask those people. Then like now, can you send that money to this new campaign?

That's like one idea that's floating out on how to do that. But again, I don't I don't know how, you know, actionable that is. So you're telling me, you're telling me that just because she's a black woman, it costs more money for her to be on the air? Just because she's not a very specific white guy? No, no, no. I'm saying she's the only person because... I know, I know, I know. Yeah, yeah.

She is the Biden-Harris campaign. So, again, anyone else... Oh, so she's the only person who could... She's the only one that can access Biden-Harris campaign donations that are, you know, they just raised like another hundred something million like the last quarter. So that all like an airtime has been bought and things like that. So just from like the money part, cause that's also a huge, huge part of this, especially when someone doesn't have the name recognition of being Biden or Trump. It's just another thing. I'm not saying that that means those are the only options we we have but for a lot of people who are just like

well why can't they just do this i'm like it's because the money thing is huge and that is so their fault that is so their fault for not dealing with this is another like rgb yeah 100 and then like also with that like immunity shit that happened with the supreme court and biden's like i'm gonna respect the limits of power you're like um bro go dictator for a second man just a little bit a little fascism just yeah can can you like you know get ugly or some shit i don't know, it looks like we're on the ropes here. We're doing dictatorship for good. You know, it's our side.

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or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back um and you know obviously the first presidential debate has gotten a lot of discussion uh many people are like it should be someone else and other people like we fucking told you this whole fucking time. What the fuck's wrong with you? I'm very curious. How is Alex Jones discussing sort of this current election? And, you know, especially as it relates to the debate recently, I'm curious if you had anything, you know, Alex Jonesian to say about it. Or he was just sort of like, this is what happens when you don't take nutraceuticals and just turn it into an ad. Well, he was predicting that maybe there would be a murder

at the debate, so that was fun. Oh, I wish. There was the possibility of Trump being assassinated because the globalists hate him, but then maybe they would kill Biden because that would make the democrats look like

victims and then it would solve the problem that biden's a bad candidate and then they beat trump so there was a lot of fun going on beforehand but then when it wasn't really all that exciting he was just i don't know he's like this is a problem with a two-party system you're like wait what is it down the middle take now no i think it's interesting because everybody in the real world's reaction was like ah biden didn't perform well and so you would imagine like alex would be like haha where are you going to take a victory lap but you're mistaking reality again in their world it was just really boring it was just boring nobody got into a fight no murder no one's mask fell off yeah yeah there

was supposed to be something there's supposed to be fireworks or something it's just two old men shit talking about golf so then does he just do the thing where like a lot of conspiracy theorists they just have to kick the can down the road it's like well maybe i was wrong about that one but this this next thing you know it's probably gonna happen then oh no he's just kind of like whatever that was boring well one of the hallmarks ofmarks of Alex's behavior is that he'll make those predictions like there's going to be a murder at the debate. And then just when it doesn't happen, I didn't say that was going to happen. I was just I just said maybe it would happen. I was just we were just looking at it from all sides.

So he has no responsibility for any of that stuff. And he could just move forward. Right. But I do think that the eclipse was the moment that they swapped Biden's body for... Interesting. Is that what he said? He was basically like,

the deep state is going to use the eclipse to pull... I forgot exactly what it was. Maybe you guys remember, but also it might be just one of the many eclipses that you've covered. He says it every eclipse, actually. Right. There were a lot of things going on with the eclipse,

but it was mostly about preparing martial law drills in order to implement a prison state across the United States, which definitely happened. You're like, we already have a prison state,

my guy. Nice. God. It was mostly just about increased traffic cops and stuff like that million people. Yeah. It was mostly just about increased traffic cops and stuff like that for tourism. But that was martial law drills. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. And like in terms of what's, does he have any like sort of overarching themes about this election? Like in terms of what the stakes are or what, like what is meant to happen because it's going to open X,

Y, or Z door. Yeah. I mean, that's an interesting question. What is, I mean, you know,

what are the stakes? The stakes are always, it's God versus the devil. Yo, this is, I mean, the election is the election, but this is the fight of all fights.

This is the beginning and the ending of alpha and omega you know this is just another battle jordan you're touching on something i think that is really important and i think a lot of people don't recognize that like alex is not political yeah like there's stuff that like really does impact political realities but he thinks that god gives him visions of the future and that he's fighting literal demons and that all of the people who are on the left and who disagree with him are possessed by these demons and all of this stuff there is a spiritual warfare that is not metaphorical that alex believes he's a crusader in yeah and so it's kind of admirable i don't know i respect that more than like partisan hackery you know where you're like at least you're unique versus like oh biden

totally fucked that debate up instead he's just like nah the lizard demons are still getting like i don't know i it's at least there's a lane i like your philosophy jordan's like trying to cover it every week yeah yeah yeah i mean but then that's my but then i also as you'd say like he's unable like he's compelled to say these these things but then in court he's like i'm a performance artist well right you know like the lawyer said that yeah but we're so we're do you guys like where do you guys land in terms of what his actual intent is and what his how he's taking in the world like it's fully just like this is this is legit to him or it's half like i mean this seems like it's working so i guess i'll just keep doing it kind of a thing could be both yeah could be a mix i don't know who knows where

compulsion meets craft right it's somewhere in there what do you think i'm of the opinion that in 2024 intent should no longer matter for any of us. You know, like I understand a lot of people have intended to do a lot of shit, but now what's done is done and people need to be held accountable for it. So I really don't care what anybody intends. Yeah. You know, the what's in Alex Jones's heart is a weird one. Like, what does he mean? I don't care. Here's what he's done. Let's heart is a weird one. Like, what does he mean? I don't care.

Here's what he's done. Let's do the thing to that. Let's react appropriately to the thing that happened. Right, right, right, right. Instead of reacting to the thing that that person wished would have happened. Yeah, it's the thing that I come back to a bit is like, Alex constantly on air has said that he's murdered multiple people, like watched them die.

Like he said, he stomped their guts out guts out yeah and then they bled to death in front of him he said stuff like that yeah right and then under oath he was asked about that and he said he's never murdered anybody never killed anybody but like there's a you see someone grotesquely describe having committed murder and you have to ask yourself like, okay, you either believe that you did this or you want the audience to believe this about you. And it's not true. And either way,

the impact is really fucked up. Sure. Sure. So that's really where the reality is, you know, whether he, whether he knows what he's doing is just all false or whatever it still impacts the real world in a way that matters yeah it's and like i guess how

i felt like for a while there was like this idea of sort of a lot of the stuff that alex would have like say on his show or the people he would have on was sort of like a beginning entry point into like the conservative misinfo talkosphere kind of thing and then could get mainstreamed is he is that influence like waning by by any like in any measurable way or he's just kind of still just sort of this like sideshow figure that occasionally has these takes that like end up intersecting and being beneficial to like conservative causes and things like that well you you know how you said uh like uh one out of a hundred or people were watching and laughing and then uh they're like oh no you're crying now yeah right right that's the purpose that alex serves you know like

that's the he can crack through to people and and get them uh to start listening to people and get them to start listening to narratives and shit that they don't really realize is as bad as it is. And then, oh, what do you know? We have some Nazi show up on the show who I'm pretending is just kind of a cool dude. Right. And oh, maybe you'll start listening to it. It's a gradual path that Alex serves as an entry point with that. gradual path that Alex serves as an entry point with that. In terms of the information stuff, I think there's so many people now that he is not nearly as important for that.

He's more of a follower than a leader in that stuff, I think, than he was, let's say, early 2000s. He's like a legacy now. He's still given a lot of shrift, but in reality, you can take him or leave him. You bring him out to like do a speech, a turning point, not because he's going to have some great ideas, but because he's going to catch phrases. Yeah, it's like, you know what he did for the brand. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We love we love your work, man.

We love what you did. We love what you did. So I guess from your perspective, what's the best and worst case scenarios for what Alex's next couple of years look like? Just from the, just watching the waves and undulations of InfoWars. For whom? I would say for us as,

as people who are having to live in a world that is affected by his existence. Best case scenario with the parameters that we have as in like things that are feasibly possible? Legally and otherwise, yeah. Oh. I can't answer that one. I think worst case scenario is you live near Alex and he eats you because he's threatened to do that. He will barbecue your ass. Yeah.

If he loses all of his money and he has to resort to eating human flesh yeah yeah they'll sell it on what drjones.com yeah or whatever okay i've got a best case scenario okay here's the best case scenario all right we organize a party and we just start digging on all of his property and I guarantee we'll find more money than the FSS is worth right now. He's got burying gold energy. That's our best case scenario. We all organize shovel parties

and then we move from there. And then what? You keep what you find, basically? Or do we all pitch in? I think we obviously donate it to... I mean, it's an appropriate respect for shoveling of a man's hoe. You might get a finder's fee. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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