The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 329 (Best of 7/8/24-7/12/24)

Episode Date: July 14, 2024

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. And speaking of musical talents, our two guests today host a wonderful podcast about another musical powerhouse. One, Bruce the Boss Springsteen, New Jersey's very own. I know very little about Bruce Springsteen aside from what I get just sort of

ambiently from being an American. But after listening to their podcast, I'm, I'm starting to understand things a little bit better, better, at least from a completely new perspective, which I really enjoy. They are the hosts of the podcast because the boss belongs to us asking the question, look, is Bruce Springsteen actually one of the greatest queer icons? And they have a very emphatic answer to that question. Please welcome to the microphone. Please welcome to the microphone, Jesse Lawson and Holly Cascio.

Thank you so much for having us. Oh, it's great to have you. Oh, of course. And we Please welcome to the microphone, Jesse Lawson and Holly Cascio. Thank you so much for having us. Oh, it's great to have you. Oh, of course. And we do want to acknowledge, Jesse, you are currently, both of our guests are coming live from the UK right now. But Jesse, you do live near a main road and ambulance station. So if there is some ambient sound. I do, yeah.

I'm literally a radio producer. That is my job. And I have the worst house for recording in. It sounds like you're just in the middle of the street. Right, right. No, we love it. Yeah. I wasn't like, is that one of those Zoom backgrounds where it looks like they're in a house and they may just be sort of sitting like on the high road? Yeah, I'm sitting outside. Well, it's great to have you. Like I said at the top, I don't know anything about Bruce Springsteen. A lot of people are like, you'd like a man. He's from New Jersey.

You're from the Valley. Outcast. Yeah, same thing. And I'm like, yeah, I respect that, I guess. But tell us a little bit about your podcast because I also love that, you know, as sort of in the description of your show too, you also ask the question,

why you, the host, trans activist, abolitionist, DIY punk, drag king, working class weirdos, what are y'all doing idolizing a cis straight rich white man? Well done for getting that out in one take. We can never do that in one straight take. Oh, yeah, I'm good. I'm good at one take. He's a professional, dude. You can tell. You'm good. I'm good at one take. He's a professional, dude. You can tell. You can tell. I think you're actually our target audience because I think we talk a lot about Bruce

Brinksey and we get very, very nerdy about it. And we forget that actually other people outside of the myth of Bruce Brinksey, a lot of people don't know about him and who he really is, including us. We're kind of making it up as we go along but we do a lot of very big deep dives into who we think he is yeah i love it yeah i think also like that was my experience i think one of the so i got into bruce springsteen when i was in my early 20s and before that point i hadn't thought that much about him because he is an american like you know one of his album covers has the american flag right everyone says that he's the same as bon jovi like Like, I just like, I was like, well, this isn't for me.

And then I had the kind of like classic experience that lots of people we talked to on the show had where I just listened to one song and was like, it's about gender. And then I became totally obsessed with him. So, yeah, I think like that's something we talk about a lot on the show. It's like, yeah, there's a real Bruce who lives in New Jersey there's a bruce that we've projected all of our thoughts and feelings on tv and it's really weird because sometimes you you think like i'm getting all this queer stuff from bruce what on earth are other people getting like you look around at other people who are like i love america i love bruce brinksey and it's like what version of bruce are you listening to yeah well i think most americans things go over our heads anyway and people be like huh the song had layers so i

had some depth to the lyrics that I wasn't picking up on. I thought it was literally about a guy working in a steel town. Yeah. I think you're really underestimating how stupid we are as a country. We saw American flag and said, God love America. And then we were like, yeah, America is good. He loves it. We don't read the lyric sheets.

Yeah. We're safe. Well, that did like, yeah, that literally happened, didn't it? Because Trump asked read the lyric sheets. Yeah, we're safe. Well, that did, like, yeah, that literally happened, didn't it? Because Trump asked Bruce Springsteen to play at his inauguration. Yeah. A song which is about, like, workers' rights and unionization. Right. We've only gotten worse, too, because, like, now you have, like, every other day, Tom Morello will tweet something, and there'll be, like like 10 conservative reply guys like oh i miss when

rage wasn't woke and it's like how completely inept at media criticism do you have to be to think have you heard like your ears work right have you just heard down rodeo these people ain't seen a brown skin man since their grandparents buy one what the the fuck? It's so great. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. No, but the other thing too was like, just, it was fun hearing you both like discover suddenly it's like, wait, am I the only boss fan? You're like, no, this is like, this is truly like a shared experience.

And like, I'm, I'm guessing like anything, it's always fun to kind of begin to find your community sort of like in this niche way, too. It must be just only like sort of furthers your love for the boss. Oh, yeah. We are legion. I think that's what we discovered here that the podcast is there's so many of us out there. And I think secretly we've done this just to make more friends. Because everyone we talk to, there's just so many queer fans out there that hear his lyrics or see him and don't know whether they actually want to be him or whether they want to make out with him they're not quite sure yeah there's so many of us it's

incredible to be clear the reason anyone starts a podcast is to make friends that's true that is true just letting you know yeah we're all best friends right now aren't we oh absolutely like i'm coming to i'm gonna ask to crash at your places when I'm in the UK next time. This is how friends are made. It's me from the podcast about 15 months ago, if you remember. I'm here and I have Nando's. I'm willing to share. I love that you're dropping the Nando's reference immediately. We'll get the meal deal at Tesco.

Whatever. Oh, you've studied. I like this. On the noisy, busy street that I live on, there is an Ando. Oh, perfect. Well, call me, you know, Perry, Mr. Perry Perry. The thing I also got to add, what's like, in your opinion, what's like Spruce Stings? Spruce Stings?

Spruce Stings. That's the way we call them. Yeah, Spruce Stings. What's Springsteen's like most based song that you'd be like, man, people need to fucking actually listen to this track. Like to really just to kind of blow open your mind about who bruce springsteen is great question so many i mean born in the uh born in the usa is like the really obvious one that everyone's kind of aware of the one that's about loving the usa right absolutely yeah unions yeah it's fucking that flag um but like he i think the song we talk about a lot on the show is dancing in the dark which sounds like it's just pop banger like it's just a pop hit

everyone knows and it's just a song about bleak depression and isolation and darkness and queerness if you want to hear it but right it's just such an unbelievably sad deep song that goes unmissed because it's just such a pop banger. I always thought that was a song about how to start a fire. It's like, you can't start a fire without a spark. Is that what you're doing? Yep, yep. Yeah.

This goes for hire. Yeah. So I figured it's just like, teach America how to make more fires. Yeah, we have that already. It lights a fire in your heart. That's right. wildfires yeah we we have that already in your heart that's right they're called gender reveals and we do them in dry areas to start wildfires it's i saw one of them in real life the other day which i thought it was just an american thing i i go swimming with a bunch all of us are trans

who go swimming together and we were walking down the beach and there was a legitimate gender reveal party and all of us stood there and when they revealed they were like it's a boy and we were like for now yeah keep telling that uh what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are what you're into let's go take a look okay coming up rose's lyrics. So, Elliot Smith again. Wow! And then, effect of internet on GDP in early 90s. Sorry. That tells you everything. I'm sorry.

The effect on GDP of the early internet? Yeah. The effect of internet on GDP in early 90s. Okay. Someone posted, doing the internet in the early days. It doesn't actually, it also didn't affect anything it absolutely did like this we'll get on to the goldman sachs report but like yeah they're like none of this compares to the early internet yeah i'm just sorry i i know the song coming up rose but as i look at the lyrics of coming up roses by lee smith i'm a junkyard full of false starts

and i don't need your permission to bury my love under this bare light bulb the moon is a sickle cell it'll kill you in time your cold white brother will ride in your blood like spun glass and sore eyes this so uh good and the cold white brother there is elliot smith he was a big rap fan yeah. The cold white brother. Yeah. Yeah. He was in, he was doing him and he had him at LL Cool J at the time. We're trading diss tracks. Oh my God.

Yeah. They called him white Kendrick. That would, could you imagine? Yeah. It doesn't even make sense. Like, I don't know. I'm sure people would take that.

They're like, man, no way. Yes, I agree. Andrew, what's something you think is underrated? Underrated gross recipes that are way too much work.

Okay. So I did recipes. I had, I had been saving. So, so let's see about like a fucking year ago, we got my friend for her, like as a kind of like a wedding bachelorette gift a

jamon iberico from spain which i don't remember the exact bill but it was closer to three or closer to four figures than three oh my god it was it was a very expensive hawk. Because I'm like, I guess because I just like, I kind of was like, I guess I'm cheap ultimately, because as we were carving up this jamon, there's all the fat on the rind, and I was just like a maniac

saving all these pieces of jamon rind. What do I do with it? I don't even know like probably like $40 a pound this fat is like one of the most expensive substances I've ever had in my life so I saved

all of it and that it's been in my freezer for way too long I guess you know fat connoisseurs let me know how I fucked up but I was having a day where I like really really did not want to do any more writing and you guys hadn't called me to get on the podcast so instead i had to do something yeah what i what i did was over approximately like six hours rendered out

rendered out like 800 milliliters of hamon fat holy shit which is crazy i mean if anyone's had jamon it's like very very like funky like a little bit like like aged kind of and it's it's uh jamon pigs are like raised on acorns only so it has a kind of like nutty flavor anyway so i have like way too much fat so then what i did was i got i don't know fucking fucking six liters of Costco bourbon. And I made... Oh, fat washed it? I fat washed so much Costco food. So you created a

Iberico Jamon fat washed bourbon. Costco bourbon. Yeah, that's fine. I don't give a shit. Well, it's the cheapest and the most expensive. I don't care. Look, man, it's fat washed with $1,000 fat that you buy. Okay. So you really are having a party.

It took me fucking forever. Yeah. I mean, come through. I did make burnt pineapple Manhattans with the hormone fat washed. Oh, shit. That was fucking great. It was fucking great. All right.

So everybody, we'll send out Andrew's address. We're all going to show up. He's going to feed us meat and fat-washed bourbon cocktails. Shit. Let's stop this podcast right now. You know what I wish? I wish, like, I wish, and I'm saying this as somebody who is a podcaster, has hosted, has hosted on this very network.

I wish we had the balls to just be like, you know what? Podcast over and end the episode. Sorry, y'all. Life is just more important sometimes than these microphones. And then be like, tweet out a picture of us drinking. And tweet out a picture of us like, this is what we stopped the podcast for. And nobody would be

mad. Or you leave the mics rolling the whole time. We all leave with the mics rolling. We meet somewhere and then we all come back and then just talk about what happened and it's a seven hour episode i love it yeah i'm sure that'll be great for for ads overrated chris what's something you think is overrated christopher i feel like this is i know this is a controversial one because uh people come in with uh you know all sorts of overrated takes that are that are very pop culture. But mine is a general one. I think coffee is overrated. Coffee as a whole thing. People are lining up and waiting for coffee at coffee shops. They're they're making content about a cup of bean water.

I don't understand it. Coffee is is exactly what it should be. But it has it has risen up to the level of overrated. I feel like coffee is overrated. Are you, I'm guessing just from your personality type, you may not need the aid of caffeine. A hundred percent correct. And that is, that's the gentlest way of saying, sir, you need to calm down. No, not even I'm cause I'm the same way. Like I'm caffeine insensitive and people are like, would you drink a bunch of coffee? I'm like, dude, I don't even fuck this shit. Don't even bang unless I drink like like the most pure cold brew. Then I start getting up a little bit or Vietnamese coffee. Yeah, I'm the opposite where I like the taste.

But when I drink it, my hands start shaking because it's like, oh, we do not need this. Oh, shit. Yeah, we're redlining. Yeah, that's interesting. I love so I love coffee. But to your point, I hate the culture around it, if that makes sense, where it's more of an addiction and a treat for me. And also, I guess, a boost more than like, I don't need to have these beans roasted or if it tastes good, it tastes good. Does that make sense?

A friend of mine started weighing the water, you know, because like to make like a perfect pour over over it's like a certain amount of grams of water and all this and and i get it yo if that's for you i'm glad you have the energy because i have the energy to do all kinds of weird shit you know like with weed and stuff that you're like wow why are you telling me because you gotta get the texture right or the blunt or else it's not fucking good let me do my thing uh but again each people everyone has their own thing. Yeah. Just a simple cup is fine. I try to live in general by the Sheryl Crow. You know, if it makes you happy, it can't be that bad.

But I'm like, I think we've gone a little far on this one. I think we've gone a little far. Is waiting in that line making you happy? Like I fell into this where my wife got me an espresso machine, I think, for Christmas. Wait, you also have a wife? I do. And we'll be right back. We have a break. You can listen to this podcast wherever you find your podcast.

He just failed his tryout, folks. At iHeartMedia and on all your Spotify podcasts apps. I just tried to high five Chris from across the country. No, you're right. I got this espresso machine and I liked the espresso, but then I started reading, going into the espresso Reddits, and then convincing myself that I wasn't good enough for the way I was making espresso. It made me feel so inferior. Low espresso, self-espressteam?

Whatever you want to call that shit. Wait, what do you mean? How did you get bummed out from... Walk me through. What was being said that you're like, oh, I'm not good enough for this? Because they were all like, oh, I measure the beans. Like to what we were just talking about. I measure the water, the beans.

I do it like the grounds. Isn't it like atmospheres too? Like the pressure is also a huge thing with espresso? That's a big thing. And I'm like oh no mine i'm never gonna fit this community and i need to buy all this shit and uh and then i'm like no i like it like to chris's point you don't have to live the whole life you can just have something you enjoy privately you're like that is babe which espresso machine do we have the keurig

it's a keurig okay It's a Keurig? Okay. Okay, so none of this stuff applies here. That's what's incredible about humans, too, is we're so desperate to fit in that you're even like, I can't fit into the online espresso community. Yeah, right. Something I didn't know existed until 30 seconds ago. Just punting the espresso machine to the curb and shit.

I need to make more money. I do think that if you spend more than one hour on an online espresso community, there should be a pop up that says you need to make more money. Get back to work. Yeah. They're like, ah, your income is not high enough for this to actually make sense to you. Because like you see, there was someone I went to to some, uh, like some agency and, and I was like one of these talent agencies and like people talk about like, Oh man, like they,

they got like one of those insane espresso machines from fucking Italy. And like you go and it really is like, it's like the size of like a baby grand piano. And like, there's like painted like a fucking Ferrari engine. And you're like, how much is like, it's like,

it's $30,000 bro. Just give me a fucking vitamin water and I'll you're like how much it's like it's like it's 30 000 bro just give me a fucking vitamin water and i'll keep this shit moving yeah please it's all status you're right yeah well i mean it's not that i mean like for because obviously italians take their shit seriously but it's just like some things are so outside of my grasp or my experience or my interest that like when i look at it i'm like like, God, cool, man. Like, I honestly, it's wasted on me because I wouldn't fucking know it came out of like a $30,000 or however many tens of $1,000 machine. Well, there's also like someone there who's the unpaid summer intern, who's like, all that I've actually learned on this job is how to use the $30,000 express machine. And if you actually had just not bought this, you could have paid me for my labor this summer.

That would have been really nice. Thank you so much. At least like I could have done Starbucks runs and gotten points in my app for it. I could have netted out for something at the end. Anyway, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back and we'll get into the news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview

dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling, first-hand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.

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There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing they're just dreams dream sequence is a new horror thriller from blumhouse television iheart radio and realm listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts And we're back. And you may hear the trash guy right now, Matt was saying. Yeah, there's a trash guy. Any trash banging. Again, we like to offer full transparency when it comes to the sounds that you may be hearing as we have the show playing. But anyway, the first story I wanted to get to is pretty big.

It's from the quite esteemed journal, The Lancet. They just published a study, as I said at the top of the show, called Counting the Dead in Gaza, Difficult but Essential, which estimates that the, quote, true death toll could reach more than 186,000 people. 86,000 people. That is obviously exponentially more than the 38,000 that we hear being quoted most of the time, because of course that number doesn't take into account the quote thousands of dead buried under rubble and indirect deaths due to destruction of health facilities, food distribution systems, and other public infrastructure. That figure is actually a conservative estimate. As the Lancet said, it was calculated using four indirect deaths for each direct death. But as they said in this journal piece, and other conflicts, indirect deaths range from

three to 15 times the number of direct deaths. this is the again the conservative number and that would amount to almost eight percent of the total population in gaza right now as it stands uh the cia director bill burns is headed to doha to continue ceasefire talks this feels like a headline i read every other week when they're like they're when people are trying to appease everyone who's absolutely outraged by the situation, to put it lightly. And on Sunday, Hamas said it was waiting to hear from Israel on their latest proposal. So I'm not sure where this lands, but again, 186,000 is what they are saying is a more realistic death toll given all of the infrastructure damage. And again, like the

way even the media in the United States is like, oh, wow, buildings are toppled in Gaza. And it's like, and those are and people are inside of those buildings. That's very important information. And it makes total sense. I mean, you know, like this, this count that we've been getting, which is coming from the Gaza health ministry, is just based on bodies that are identifiable and accounted for that have been directly killed. People have been killed by Israeli bombing and gunfire. And it makes total sense that, of course, the indirect deaths here is going to be where a big mass of the body count is eventually going to be reported. In fact, the United Nations just now today released a press release that says UN

experts declare famine has spread throughout the Gaza strip. This is according to the United Nations human rights office of the high commissioner. And so it's like, yeah, like this, this number that keeps getting trotted out feels like it hasn't changed for a lot of people.

People are like, haven't we been saying like 35 ish thousands since like January. Right. And yet every day we see more and more videos of this destruction and we're stuck on this number. And it just, you know, for anyone who's been paying attention, you just sit there knowing how much worse it actually is.

Yeah, yeah. And it's... People willing to engage with the news and not sort of look away, like I think most people tend to do because it's horrifying. But again, these are sort of like the stakes, I think, that people have to understand when you look at how a government works and what you want it to do or not do. These are the kinds of things that factor into it. And I know, again, you look at the polling for the support just in America for actually having some kind of meaningful ceasefire.

It's overwhelming. Yeah. kind of meaningful ceasefire, it's overwhelming. Yeah. And yet again, because we have a military industrial complex that needs constant feeding of funds, this is what we get. And this is like, you know, and I think a lot of, there's so many, it's not just even in like armed conflict. I remember even with Hurricane Maria, right, in Puerto Rico, there were, there was this

amount of deaths that the sort of US government was sort of like, and only like a few, like maybe a couple of people died. But when you actually really look at the entirety of it, the lack of power and access to medical care and like clean water and things and what that actually did for other people, it was much higher. And I think people really need to take this into consideration, or at least I don't think anyone listening to this show is like, I'm on the fence about what's happening in Gaza.

But, you know, this is... I think what you said about the military-industrial complex is really important as well. Because it's like, I don't think it's at all meaningful for the head of the CIA to go and quote-unquote call for a ceasefire when America is selling that many arms to Israel. Right. Do you see what I mean? Yeah, it's not your bad faith actor in it. If you're like, well, I profit from this. And he would be clear in saying, oh, I am not calling for a ceasefire.

I'm trying to broker a negotiation in which we eventually get the whole permanent ceasefire taken off the table. Right. Which is kind of where it's at right now. Yeah, that is where it's at. That is the latest proposal. Hamas has actually agreed to take out the first demand of a permanent ceasefire in favor of all the other demands. And it's just like, you know, we just keep going around in circles until somebody with power in the United States admits that Israel is acting in bad faith at all times. Yeah. You know?

Well, that leads us to our predicament here with the presidential race just just what polls are meaningless but they're they're fun to just talk about because obviously they they never actually end up the way you hear about it no but it's like fantasy football let's have a good time you know it's a snapshot of what a couple maybe 45 people are thinking that they pulled and then extrapolated that to the entire populace. But a new poll showed that Biden is trailing Trump, but in the same amount, it's 42 to 43%. But because of the speculation around Biden staying in or dropping out, their survey also looked into how other Democratic candidates would stack up in the

election, including Gavin Newsom, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, who both came out behind Trump. But you know who ran ahead of Trump 42% to 41%? Was Kamala Harris. And guess what? When you pair Kamala Harris with Hillary Clinton, it put Democrats, quote, in the strongest position, beating Trump 43% to 40%. Do it! Do it! strongest position beating trump 43 to 40 i this feels like if we're gonna lose let it be funny that's what i say come on oh man well i mean again also this feels like the absolute kind of thing where like like, the pollster class is like, man, just get something out there that really shows, like, anything but this could work.

Because we were cheerleading it the whole time. But now suddenly we're feeling the heat because we were the ones that were keeping this guy here. Oh, gosh. I honestly don't know how you're coping. Because when we had our election, we had, like, six weeks build up to it. But you guys have, like, a whole year of this, don't you? Oh, we have two years, it's so much because everything is about again generating as much money as possible if you're allowed to campaign so far out that means everybody from the campaign

like strategery you know industry they start getting their checks the pollsters start getting their checks that's like that's what it's all about. And yeah, I mean, like, I wish we had like, again, like, we've also deemed that corporations are people that have a legitimate voice in our election. So, you know, do with that what you will. Yeah. But like, you know, other countries have like, you know, harder rules, like everyone has the same budget, go. And you have the same amount of time go but again because we are that's on american democracy built on you know corporate kleptocracy it's yeah it's a little bit more difficult unfortunately how do you guys do it you guys have one of them parliaments is

that right i used to do drugs out of those yeah yeah yeah cigarette never mind yeah, yeah. Oh, and cigarette. Never mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's not like the cocaine cigarette? No, but yeah. I mean, what is sort of your election season? Like, how quickly does it sort of explode and then fade away? It's a very, very quick turnaround. We're slowly being boiled over here. It's like six weeks. They announce the election.

You've got six weeks to prepare. But obviously, the way things have been going, everyone knew that an election was coming up anyway. So things have been moving around. And it's just nonstop debates, wall-to-wall polls, news headlines. But six weeks of that feels more bearable than a whole year, two-year cycle of that. That's just nonstop. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I mean, a huge chunk of our economy is election money. So, you know, you have to keep into account that if you shorten elections, you know, what are pundits going to do for the rest of the four years? You know, what are they going to talk about sports? What are they going to talk about policy? Nah, I can't do that. Well, if Biden doesn't win, then he can always start a really bland podcast with Bruce Springsteen when he comes out of office, can't he? Yeah, him and Obama together. Yeah. Right. Ohsteen when he comes out of office, can't he? Yeah. Him and Obama together. Yeah. Right. Oh, gosh.

That was a wild one, wasn't it? I like to think that doesn't exist. I've wiped it from my brain. What did you make of that as boss fans? I have not listened to it. Can you even bring yourself to listen to it? Well, we had to listen to it for research purposes. I was looking for a quote and I had to sit through 10 minutes of it. And the most insipid liberal nonsense.

It's just nothing. It's just no one saying anything on that podcast. No one is saying anything. Right, right, right. So I love that. Yeah, and that's the thing about that. I want to listen to this and just tune out. I want to listen to it and stare at a blank wall for a while.

I mean, yeah, ASMR vibes. Yeah, fall asleep gently. This is like, I think this is what's so wild too, because I hear from older people too. They're like, I mean, you guys got to fit, you know, you got to stay, you got to get in line, you know, and support like this candidate. And there's a huge dimension that is always missing from the discourse around how

younger people look at a presidential candidate these days is we have had like back to back to back economic, like suplexes that broke our fucking souls. And, and we look at only increasing inequality. We're becoming so much more aware of the prison industrial complex, over-policing, the mismanagement of funds and where they go and who it supports, that everyone is now being like, the status quo is fucking violence. People don't understand,

that's my default position. The status quo is violence. And I know that for a very fortunate few, life is very peaceful and you have no existential threats to your personhood or anything like that. But for many other people, that is not the case. And like, to not acknowledge that sort of like anger, frustration, fear that exists, and just be like, well, you know, we just got just just to figure it out. Don't worry about all these other things you guys are crowing about just get behind the candidate it's such a fucking slap in the face and i wish that there's a way that like i mean you know at the very again the bare minimum right could be the biden campaign being like look this isn't a great fucking deal here and we understand that a lot of shit can be better

we can you know maybe we can try to do some stuff but trying like they it's it's nothing like that it's just being beat over the head with like well then you want fascism no we fucking don't that's why so many people in their communities do what they have to do to to fight that off kind of seems like you guys want fascism being that you are willing to just lose an election to trump because all of you are too afraid to put your own careers on the line and back a different candidate you know what i mean sounds very similar to what we just had in the uk as well i think everyone was i think the last six weeks i've just been feeling so guilty that we if we don't vote labor then we're voting in fascism but right it's that it's like saying that people say isn't it it's like you're voting for the lesser of two evils

but forgetting you're still voting for evil at the end of the day like it's not you're not voting with hope in your heart you're not voting with an actual choice you're voting because it's slightly less fascist than the big fascist but yeah when labor aren't actually offering an alternative or an opposition then that just allows fascism to grow even more so what is the point in that right yeah but and that's what's so exciting i know we can we can talk about it more later but that's what's so exciting about the election results in france is that was like a left-wing a genuinely left-wing coalition that like surpassed the two-party system and that's like a really really exciting thing that you can actually vote for something that you do believe in yeah the

the videos of all the right-wing french people like waiting for the returns to come in heartwarming absolutely ashen faced i was like oh my god this is what i've been on repeat yeah if this is what i have to hold on to as my country falls apart then so be it at least i had that but yeah i mean like that's the thing we we understand many people understand the stakes no i'm i'm not voting for donald trump i'm not going to ever support him or his candidacy. But unfortunately, I'm like, well, the only other option is this other thing. But I, as a voter, feel completely unheard on so many other issues. That's where my resentment comes in as a voter. Because I'm like, you guys fucking wore Kente cloths in the Capitol talking about you were going to do something about over policing and white supremacy. You'd made all these fucking noises about the pandemic and people's safety. And then it's like all the fucking safety measures got pulled out from under people.

You're talking about there's so many things on the agenda. And I get that there are other things that happen. But there are a lot of voters who are like come from these marginalized groups, or people are just looking at their own situation and say, I the status quo, like will actually be the end of me. Like if things keep going as it is, this will be the end of me. So I need to hear something different. And a lot of people resent the fact that the only thing they're hearing is, well, you better get you want fascism. It's that that's so fucked up. Like you have to acknowledge what people are going through and it doesn't mean you're conceding the election by acknowledging these things but this is and i think this is a situation where i think americans are have become so used to being like well i have to vote for the democrat because that as a binary yeah that's the better decision

but they're also for the status quo which still means death which means violence which means inequality and that is like the biggest things we're trying to contend with so anyway things are going great over here yeah things are good man had to just get that off my chest it's just very it's just a difficult time and yeah it's also just not a choice is it as you say like that's just not no that's like yeah no one has any agency there and the other the other way too i look at it is like to be more involved in local politics and more things involved with your community guess what that the gains that you can make would look easier if the democrats kept the white house versus the republicans

be taking the white house and then what that means like just downwardly just in terms of an overall policy but even then it's like that's that's the most like some people can like latch on just like well at least it won't be worse and i think that's just such a defeatist like position to be trying to to change the country from that. Yeah. It's, it's a, it's a huge issue. It's a huge issue. And I really wish that the, I really wish our capitalist overlords would take the ills of capitalism seriously.

Oh, maybe if we ask them nicely, they will. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's like,

it's a tough one as well, isn't it? Like, I don't, I don't know about the U S in the UK. There have been some studies that show like, you know, big lobbying organizations and places like that, like do a lot less under a Labour government than under a Tory government, even if similar things are happening, because there's this like, perception that centre left

is like safer and better. So it's like a, it's a hard balance, I think, with that as well, where you're like, no, we actually still need to like, really keep mobilizing mobilizing and taking to the streets and doing all the things that we were doing under the tour. Yeah, because I'm under, I don't think anyone's under the impression. It's like, it's going to be a top down solution here in the United States. It's like, no, that's why you have to pour into things like locally, because that's your immediate environment. Joe Biden doesn't give a fuck about North Hollywood or the San Fernando san fernando give a fuck unless he has a fundraiser there but like the the people that do those are the people you live with and those are the people that you need to have the bonds with to you know resist any kind of real bullshit like you know totally

like federally organized bullshit that might be in our future anyway, so let's move on to flirting. Good segue. Hey, you know how the Daily Zeitgeist does. We like to do violent, jarring fucking transitions, baby. But anyway, Gen Z, look, I'm glad. Like millennials, we are officially washed and have become the hollowed out husks of what was once considered cool gen z now has the mantle and now y'all are the generation that is killing an industry or destroying this custom whatever the fuck they used to say about us the latest

body that gen z caught now is that they've they, it's the end of flirting. They have killed flirting. I really want to read this New York Post opening paragraph because the New York Post very conservative, really fucking stupid. And this is how they, this is like their sort of vibe in talking about a Gen Z killed flirting quote. Liking an Instagram story or sliding into someone's DMs are ways to express romantic interest in the digital age, but technology may actually have made it harder for singles trying to score a date. Gen Zers especially struggle to master the art of flirting in an era of social media and dating apps. Quote, I think flirting is dying, Los Angeles resident Nikki Sanjanko, 24, told NBC. If someone thinks you're cute, they just ask you for your Instagram these days and then DM you or swipe up on your story to show they're interested.

The state of dating today has been described as exhausting as women online lament the nightmarish difficulties of trying to find a man. What the fuck is this? Nightmarish, bro. It's like a Freddy Krueger up in my DMs. What the fuck is this like 80s rom-com narrator version of society it's like kathy's just a woman trying to find a man yeah like the article mostly bashes gen z like sort of painting them as like just super awkward

and so online like they don't know how to even talk to another person um and i get the social anxiety part like we even as millennials we also have that yeah but like buried in this bullshit is like a line about how younger people are opting to try and just date in person since apps are so shit and that's i'm like oh there's there's the nugget there that you want to kind of pull out what they're doing is there it sounds like maybe they're moving towards something a little less like coy and superficial yeah the author of this uh is mad that people don't send dick pics anymore right that's what it sounds like it's like they haven't they've lost how to do the art of flirting aka when i send a picture of me touching my balls and i go do you like and then they don't respond and then like and then the local police constables knocking on my door. I don't like any of this.

Like, yeah, it's also just sort of like, cause I feel like in the eighties and nineties, like I, my brain was absolutely poisoned by eighties and nineties media that did not actually show how human beings interacted in a romantic capacity. Like I was, I was i was truly like bro you will die alone if you don't have the smooth pickup line i remember being obsessed with fucking winking yeah yeah yeah you have to learn how to wink good oh yeah what was your what was your smooth pickup line i didn't have one i was so fucking i was like i luckily by the time i got to like high school my whole thing was just being funny and outgoing.

And I realized that was like, that'll that'll bring the that'll bring the boys to the yard, as Khalees said. You know what I mean? My sense of humor. But yeah, I never I mean, like I would say stuff corny. The one thing I did like in the digital phone age is if I saw like somebody I was attracted to, like trying to take a photo. I'll be like oh let me take a picture let me let me take that picture for you and then I will put it on selfie mode and I would take a selfie of me and I'm like oh I still do that

I don't know if you actually maybe I won't say his name but there's like a pretty famous like celebrity pundit man who I once saw at a conference and i was celebrity he's giving you opinions and take it away he's like within like he's roughly the same age as me and like we we probably share friends he's like in the same social circles and i but i was like not i you know i had a couple of drinks so i wasn't my like best self and he gave me his phone to take a picture of him and all of his mates and I truly just took so many pictures of myself and then he gave it back to me to do it again because he was annoyed and then I did it again oh yeah yeah I really really haven't grown out of that

yeah at that point it's not even flirting it's just it's just hilarious spite and an inside joke with yourself. Yeah, no, hold it. You guys are nailing it. No, yeah, keep doing that. Keep doing that. Keep your leg up. Keep your leg up.

Oh, man, it's just me again. He keeps giving it back to you. Like, do it better. And you're like, okay, now I'm just going to tweet some shit on your account. The funny part is, like, even though I would do shit like that, they would be like, oh, ha, ha, ha. Like, I had no way to transition from that. Yeah would be like uh all right gotta go and i'm like fuck that was so fucking anxiety inducing i did step one but i forgot there's more steps after that i was

just like did that part be a little be a little cutesy with them the talking part i don't know because it was it looked like weird i remember like you can never be like i like you they'd be like wouldn't you a fucking murderer yeah yeah you know what i mean uh and i get like pretty happy that gen z have killed flirting then because all of this stuff just feels like harassment it just feels like a waste of everyone's time i'm very happy if i get a nice dm or a heart and something it gives me a little buzz i like that exactly i think like i said kill flirting because i didn't know how to fucking do it and it didn't do anything for fucking me but after going to therapy guess what voicing my needs and being straightforward with people actually has done a lot for me and if that's how we communicate that would actually i

think it's better for us in the long run rather than being so fucking coy it's like exhausting yeah you got to learn to flirt with yourself you know what i mean thank you dude that's like that's the the most healthy way of doing it i i didn't have pickup lines growing up i think i had a long obsession with i have to get a dog because someone years ago told me that's the best way to pick up chicks quote unquote and and then eventually i forgot that's why i wanted a dog right and i just became dog obsessed and i was like i can't get a girlfriend until i get a dog and then i was like i just have to get a dog yeah now i just love dogs do you have a dog no oh man i already have a wife but you have family so yeah in a way you yeah you made good you made good i made good yeah yeah yeah okay amazing all right let's take a

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And yes, Ed, another stock. I felt like a few months ago on the show, we were talking about how the stock price for Tesla, the performance has not been great. There was a flood of like, well, the sales are short. And then like Elon got his pay package and then everyone's like, yes, he's back, baby. And the last few weeks have seen a huge increase. One headline said it like wiped out all losses.

They're in the green for the first time in 2024. And this is because Elon Musk is a genius, correct? It's because he's Jack Welch, too. He is basically just like the great guy. And not the guy that the Alec Baldwin character from 30 Rock. 30 Rock was based on. In Harvard, I was voted most. Yeah.

But the thing is, like, their deliveries are still down. In Harvard, I was voted most. Yeah. Most, yeah. But the thing is, like, their deliveries are still down. They beat Wall Street estimates, but they were still down 4.8% year over year. But the stock is like 250 bucks now. It's a meme stock. And I don't think, and I don't, I think it's impressive how bad it is at this point. It's so horrible. It's like watching a very bad person win again and again and again and again.

Yeah, truly. But also, even though they voted his stock package through, the Delaware court still made it clear that it was not, like, it's, there's, things will change. I just don't know when anymore. Tester is just so fucking bizarre. I bet Google and Meta are so jealous of him because it's just disconnected from all the reality. 100%. I mean, speaking of promising shit and never delivering on it, there's a new sort of self-driving update. And a lot of people are like baby it's gonna happen but this has never fucking happened still and the the fleet of robot taxis that you could lease passively in

your sleep while you make passive income while you're catching z's that's nowhere to be found and i'm just always it just blows my mind how i mean it's definitely definitely cult like because they're the detract there aren't really the detractors who are vocal kind of get cast aside. And there's so many people who are like, it's okay, man, that this thing fucking sucks. Like the Cybertruck fucking sucks. Objectively, it fucking sucks. Like I took it to a car wash. It fucking got fucked up.

My control panel fell off. The fucking side panels fall off. The charging issues. i can't get the charger out uh it broke my finger and it accelerates when it wants to yeah exactly i drove into a house on accident yeah it's just it's very weird and there is no stock out there like it but also it's up today i maintain this shit will burn they are tech is out of ideas and so is elon musk the cyber truck is ridiculous it looks like shit it's small it's a terrible truck terrible car it's terrible deal yeah it doesn't even pay off on its promise of being a truck like there's so

many hilarious things i've seen on reddit where like someone's like you couldn't even put a bicycle flat yeah you couldn't put a bike in it you could put a christmas tree in what the fuck is it my favorite one is this guy who was like yeah took my truck to home depot and he got like four bags of mulch oh i saw that too yeah there you go like soil and someone was just putting with i did this in my toyota cor, exactly. As a guy who likes cars, I can say we're very dumb. And it is all about like, you want to be seen in vroom vroom machine. Like, I just want something that looks like a Ferrari or something that looks like a truck. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, for sure. But a Ferrari is cool. Yeah, yeah. But I'm just saying, if you like the aesthetic of the truck, which means you're a nine-year-old, that's all you need. You know what I'm saying? You're a Homer Simpson. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Right.

Yep. You're a Homer Simpson who thinks whatever hackers from the late 90s thought was cool is cool. Yeah. Well, that's what's wild is there's just such a pattern of bullshit. And yet, to your point, Ed, it it's like the guy keeps fucking how like that not a single thing he's promising is happening and people are still willing to like make all these excuses for why the cyber truck isn't actually in a draw an l on four wheels and they're just like don't worry man just what happens and now there's like some new thing about they're not calling it a recall, but they're saying they're going to change the motors and some of the early cyber trucks. And I'm like, what the fuck is this? It is all spinning plates.

And Elon Musk is very good at that. He genuinely has worked out the limits to which you can push capitalism and push the markets and lie to the markets. Right. So he lies to them and he lies to them and he keeps lying and they keep eating it up. At some point, they're going to run out of electricity. I was about to say gas. Right.

Because there aren't any new things with Tesla. Deliveries are slowing down. Yeah. The actual fundamentals of this stock are not brilliant on top of that elon musk may or may not do a bunch of fucking ketamine right also a lot of his companies are very unprofitable tesla's actually profitable it's just very weird because this crap works until it doesn't he's just very good at keeping it going yeah it's 250 bucks now it was like something else like it was like 180 or something like a few weeks ago it's just it at

some point the worm turns i'm just no idea where it's gonna fucking happen anymore yeah i thought it would be by now i hoped it would partly. Partly because it'd be entertaining. But also, he's a shithead. He's a fucking asshole. He's so annoying. There's all of this money. And he's like, yes, it's very epic and base to post the 14 words. Oh, Jesus. Yeah.

Right. 14. So he retweets them. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And he's like got Twitter, which is just burning money. Just constantly burning money

spacex is funny though because people say oh yeah they're profitable no they're playing fucking accounting games that they're not really like there's a wall street journal piece about this it's a wall street journal piece about just fucking random woman at tesla and spacex as well this man's a goblin it's like everything is so unlikable it's so upsetting and then i saw did you there's this so they had one of the like head lead engineers like a while ago and they were trying to create all the hype for the cyber truck he went on like jay leno's garage like youtube channel and there's this clip where he's talking about the side mirrors and he's like we didn't even want side mirrors on this thing.

I'm just going to play this because it's like, to me, I'm like, wait, hold on. How exactly does Tesla do things? And so Jay is like, the question he's asking this engineer is like, were there any things that like you wanted that just got like completely shot down? Like what were some other like bold design choices you made? And this is him talking about the side mirrors, the side view mirrors. Yeah. I mean, we the side view mirrors. Yeah. I mean,

we didn't want mirrors. Right. And so in the beginning, we weren't even designing mirrors. I like how Jay Leno goes, huh? And he goes, we didn't even want mirrors.

He goes, Oh, that part is so funny. I'm playing again. We didn't want mirrors. Right. And so in the beginning, we weren't even designing mirrors.

And then just just we couldn't get the regulations changed yeah okay did you hear that so he goes and you know we couldn't get the regulations changed so you know we had to put him in so i'm like it's half of their the way they ideate is sort of like well can we get the laws changed so we can like get this harebrained shit onto the car yeah it's like powerpoint deck one break the law power back but what if we we just changed it yeah and then that never works right and paid enough money to change the legislation which is what they're assuming they're going to be capable of doing which they probably you know it's just surprising that they weren't up to because i was saying like all car designers forever they've wanted to get rid of side mirrors like

all aesthetically all cars car designers feel that they look like weird ears coming off the yeah yeah so like these but but they all know like oh and also we have to have mirrors but the hubris of these dudes is the same kind of hubris that is like oh we're actually not gonna die we're uh we decide we're gonna upload our our consciousness and totally defeat mortality. You know what I mean? This is the level of presumptive hubris that we're dealing with. Well, they just don't drive.

I genuinely think these people just take cabs everywhere. That tracks at a certain level of wealth. Yeah, people just don't drive. It's the theme across everything we're talking about.ar pishai of google doesn't use google sachin adela of microsoft oh fuck my thing i put my thumb up and now the zoom video now we're keeping this in i just want to tell the listeners what throws your fucking video screen i i have a video stream right now this is an important ai related thing that proves my larger point so if you raise your thumb in front of the camera now on zoom it does a weird pop-up bubble of a thumbs up and then it freezes your video through the power of ai yeah mine what would do mine and that's exactly the

shit that someone would like eric yuan ceo of zoom or any number of people at microsoft or google who don't use their products and think that sounds great that's awesome what if on top of showing my thumb thus giving the thumbs up it also showed my another thumb yeah but animated damn this but this is the problem across all of this right elon musk doesn't drive anywhere google sandra pashai doesn't google anything sachin adela doesn't use fucking microsoft word he probably sends outlook like emails but that's about it right none of these Sunder Pichai doesn't Google anything. Satya Nadella doesn't use fucking Microsoft Word. He probably sends Outlook emails, but that's about it. None of these people interact with the economy, with labor. They don't do work.

They don't do anything. So, of course, they're like, yeah, I don't need fucking mirrors on a car, you asswipe. You don't need to see behind you. That's what my driver's for. Right. Exactly. Yeah, this thing can go off-road. Cut to, it cannot really go off-road yeah he said it could double as a boat right mask and then like someone's tesla cyber truck got

totaled because he drove it through a very small puddle of water yeah it didn't even actually reach like the door I saw like where they showed where the water reaches like it didn't even really even get in the not even close and like the insurer's like yeah dude we're not fucking we're not touching this thing sorry it's so cool yeah i love all of it well and now like you see too a lot of cyber truck owners there's like a bunch of stuff too or they're like this is how you remove your side view mirrors from your fucking cyber truck and i'm like that's a great idea your 7 000 pound missile car now has no sure. Cause it just looks cooler, man. When I mount my 50 Cal machine gun in the back with my big American flag.

And you see a lot of people doing this. Like it, it's just interesting to like it, it also has an appeal to people who are also not quite living in the same reality as us. Like you see so many people who are like putting like they're wrapping it to look like a world war two fucking fighter plane or someone mounting a machine gun and having a gigantic American flag because it looks like a meme they saw. And they're like, and that's what it does, man.

It's a meme. It's a terrible car. And I hurt my thumbs trying to load in some kibble. So thanks, Elon. Yeah, it's so good. And I love that this guy is a billionaire. That's good as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah there are times

you get a little bit blackmailed when you think about this stuff too much right yeah i mean it's it i know it's hard especially again like you said you're watching someone who's an evildoer just continue to compound financial wins and you're like i don't i but again that's how the game is set up so if you, at a certain point you can. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's inherently competitive. So those that cheat win, here's my thing is I really do feel you guys probably won't agree

with this, but I feel like being that rich is a wild burden and terrible for your, for your spiritual life. That it's like, cause think about this way. Like if I don't, if I have very little money, what is required to make me happy? All it takes is a shower orange. That's it. I just need one peach to take into the shower with me. But if I'm wildly rich and I'm used to spending millions of dollars, the amount of money I have to spend to get more new exciting sensory information is cocaine, ketamine, and a couple of sex workers who have to do stuff that is not even sex anymore.

You know what I'm saying? Or like Hgh and more hair transplants right do you know no you so and then you watch you watch what happens with these you watch what happens with these people too which is the the profound lack of maturity the internet behavior of a 13 year old who's like yeah what if i tweeted the word queef can you imagine you know at 420 yeah, it's absurd. You know, so I, I'm so grateful that I don't have that amount of money.

We're real. We're real. Hand it over to me and I'll tell you how it goes. Yeah, sure. But also I agree. I actually think when you, because the thing about someone like Elon Musk,

Mark Zuckerberg, Sondra Pichai, Sondra Pichai got paid $220 dollars to fuck up google in 2002 sorry 2022 these guys they don't have bills right they don't have there's no sensation in the morning worrying about anything yeah they could get fired that day get nothing in return and have probably 50 to $100 million of liquid capital and a bunch of assets. And probably walk into another job the same day. They don't have trouble getting introduced to people. They don't need to worry about career progression.

They don't need to worry about anything. All of the things that a person worries about, at pretty much any income level, are just concepts to them. And problems that you have are things that they can mitigate in pretty much every way. Elon Musk could probably look better than he does. He just chooses not to, which is very funny. But I think when you think of it like that, it does sound like hell, but at the same time, give me the money. Give it to me. I'm smart enough to know what I don't know. I'm down for that, Ed. I'll support you getting

a couple, Bill. But also, on top of that, all these CEOs, and this is such a cheesy thing to say, force them into therapy. You can't be the CEO of one of these companies without three hours of therapy a week. Hour and a half, beginning and end of the week. Or, you know, just cap the fucking, the wages

that you can get as CEO and then, you know, leave it there. But Ed, I got to thank you for stopping by. My pleasure. You know, just making me feel even better about my Heritage series or Foundation series Cybertruck that's going to be delivered later today. I've seen that. That's beautiful. All those eagles on there really look great. It's a beaut, dude.

Gotta say. It's a beaut. Got Conan right there on the hood. Leave some of the woman for the rest of us, man. Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. I will. I will. Thank you so much for joining us on the Daily Zeitgeist. Ed, where do people find you, follow you, hear you, read you, all all that good stuff uh where's your ed dot at better offline.com you can find me where's

your ed ed at which my newsletter and my podcast better offline please go to that link download every episode listen to every episode force the people you know to listen with a knife to listen to it every episode like a common gallagher yeah exactly yeah force them at knife point uh is there a work of social media or otherwise that you have been enjoying so there is a tweet which i will get you the link of at some after the thing where someone tweeted and i i'm paraphrasing here but it was like i saw your man crashing his flying machine in the town square your man was saying confound it and dret or something like that it's just it's it's a wonderful tweet oh shit yeah i saw that one too uh who was it also um one another thing i've been laughing at which is necessarily funny is ipad

underscore latino so that sent thank you gira who has had a very strange turn posted going to debate the omni-liberal and walsh freedom on biden staying in or dropping out brianna woo is on my side for dropping out i have never heard a conversation i wanted to hear less. Yeah. It's between that and 10 minutes of people punching dogs and it's tough. The only Destiny I'm interested in was a Microsoft product.

The only Destiny I care about was Destiny 2. I guess that was Bungie technically, right? Bungie. I'm by Sony PlayStation now. See? How the mighty fall. How the mighty fall.

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