The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 330 (Best of 7/15/24-7/19/24)

Episode Date: July 21, 2024

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get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist uh these are some of our favorite segments from this week all edited together into one uh non-stop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a physician, a musician, and a podcast-ition. Edition a podcastition you know go with that uh the host of the very fun incredibly informative podcast house of pot it's dr kabe hoda

wow thank you this is i have to say i feel like i uh i won a contest and I'm to be on the show. So thank you. And I feel I have to say I'm sorry that I'm on your show on one of the biggest news weeks of the year. I'm so sorry that it's me. So sorry. Nothing happened. We got that out of the way. We knocked that shit out yesterday.

We are good here. Yeah, mobility issues, things like that. But just to be clear, yeah, you should feel as an expert physician and a great podcast, you should feel very grateful to be on our dumb podcast. That is entirely appropriate. I, oddly enough, do because imposter syndrome is super real. Okay. Yeah. Thank you for chalking it up to that and not a real compliment.

No, you guys are fantastic. You know what? I actually listen to your podcast. I bet you have a lot of guests that are too cool for school and they come on and they're podcasters and they're like,

don't actually listen. I actually listen to you guys. So, yeah. We appreciate it. We listen to yours. No, you don't. Dr. K. Don't you? Dr. H. We have Christ Christy Yamaguchi main, one of our favorites.

Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Favorite listeners and guests of this podcast has been on your show multiple times. He has, he is fun. He is a good, he's so funny. All right. Dr. Hoda.

What's the COVID coming? COVID. Come on, bro. Come on, dude. I don't know. My wife is a physician too. And she makes me call her dr o'brien so that sounds exciting specific to your marriage all right it's my kink what what can i say always playing doctor but it's not even the the exam it's just in a waiting room yeah is the doctor the doctor going to see me yet? No, no, she's still with another patient. Refusing to see me, not answering my calls for weeks at a time.

Makes you fill out forms when you come home. It's all paperwork-based. Wait, oh, no, wait, you lost the intake form again? I guess I'll fill it out here. Where's the clipboard? Here I go. All right. Very not exciting.

Kaveh, we are going to get into some questions we have as medical idiots just generally your show does a good job of just kind of addressing some of the myths some of the things that people are ignoring that they should be paying maybe a little bit more attention to but before we get to that we do like to get to know our guests a little bit better by asking you uh what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay, so I just released an episode of my podcast today, and I was researching some stuff for it. deep dive into insulin and some of the products in your blood that can show you if you're getting insulin from the outside of your body, like you're injecting it, or if your body's making it. And the reason I was doing that was because we just did an episode, a follow-up on Lucy Letby. I don't know

if you're familiar with her. She is the nurse in the UK that was convicted last year of murdering seven babies in a neonatal intensive care unit. Yeah. And it was a crazy story. We covered it last year, but since that time, there has been this, there's been a rising, you know, uh, criticism of some of the defense that she had and whether or not they did a piss poor job or not, and whether or not there is a chance she could be innocent. So it's really kind of changed the game a little bit. And so we had to revisit some of the stuff. And one of the things was looking at insulin, because if you get insulin from your own body, then you also have this thing called C-peptide that may show up. But if someone's injecting insulin into you,

maybe too much, it can become harmful, especially to a little baby that may not need it. And that could be fatal to a really sick kid. And you won't get this thing called C-peptide in there. So it's something we check in the blood sometimes, pretty rarely. But some of the case comes down to this question and whether or not that's a really useful test or not. So I was going on a pretty deep dive to try and figure this out because it's a complicated question, even for doctors and for people. I'm not endocrinologist or anything, but I think even in that world, it can be challenging. So that's the latest thing on my search browser and probably going to get me into trouble. All the recent looking up I did of dead babies. But hopefully this show helps create an alibi. There you go.

And that is what we're here for. So you're just solving medical mysteries like an episode of House over here. Just on a regular basis. Most accurate medical show around. No, absolutely. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. What is most accurate?

That's something that people always ask my wife, but she has her answer. What's your answer? I'm curious to know her answer. I think, okay, there's no great show for it because an accurate depiction of medicine would be pretty boring. It'd be like a group of doctors sitting in a room

going over charts and talking about esoteric things and talking about electrolyte levels. It'd be pretty boring. But I think the show that kind of gets the pathos of medicine the best about like esoteric things and talking about electrolyte levels it'd be pretty boring but right i think the show that kind of gets like the pathos of medicine the best is scrubs so i think like that is that what she says yeah yeah scrubs is her answer i didn't know if it was because we were just watching it at the time and also she was going she's like yeah scrubs it's like friends

we're just watching medical show i don't know the nba playoffs do you know actually who did a good job this is gonna sound funny but the show lost they covered a lot of medical topics in that show yeah and they didn't really i i thought pretty well like crush injuries and and illness and uh fiber they all these little things come up in the show. I think they probably had a pretty good like medical advisor on that show.

Right. When Jack Shepard said that woman was going to dance at her wedding, was that surgery possible? Because I feel like that was like the huge one. He's like, you're going to dance at your wedding. And then she was- I don't remember that part.

Yeah, but I'm sure it probably isn't. But I mean, they're all like kind of bad. at your wedding. I don't remember that part. I'm sure it probably isn't. But they're all kind of bad. But you're just mainly referring to the fact that you can, with the right magical island, cure somebody who's been paralyzed from the waist down. That's mainly what you're referring to. Well, it's the one trick doctors don't want you to know.

Exactly. This one simple trick. That's my favorite. That is our only question for you When we get to the medical part What is this one small trick? I've never clicked on it before Gastroenterologists don't want you to know Yeah, exactly

Other question Do doctors use Google? Like if you're trying to responsibly I mean, I'm sure there are Is it Google too? Yeah, well, I'll tell you this. Doctors, I'll say it like this. Doctors definitely look stuff up and they should.

Like, I mean, for most of the stuff they're dealing with, they don't need to. But every now and then there is going to be something that comes across that they haven't encountered for a while that they need to like review or refresh. Or there's some sort of like lab test they need to review. And you want someone who's willing to do that. Of course, the major difference is doctors, we have a sense of where to go to find the information. We're not usually using Google. We have like search engines that are specifically for doctors.

That's what I was going to say. And we actually have like paid sites like that we would go to that give us sort of a breakdown of things that we pay for, like a yearly subscription for that help us at least point us in the right direction. So, yeah, if you're if you see a doctor looking something up, don't freak out necessarily. If you see them looking it up from like Epoch Times, that could be a problem. I'm using the copilot feature on Bing. It's AI.

Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. using the co-pilot feature on bing it's ai yeah oh no yeah it says all the symptoms you could have i don't know i gotta just keep it i don't know are you feeling like a character from super mario it's i don't let my doctor look anything up i don't let them talk to another doctor because that's cheating i make sure that they piss clean before they perform surgery on me. This is all about what you can do. No cheating. What is something you think is underrated?

Underrated, vastly underrated, should be talked about the most often are big, giant, stupid tiki drinks. I love these giant tiki drinks. I love tiki culture. I'm all in. Give me tiki drinks i love tiki culture i'm all in give me tiki bars give me hilarious tiki bars and tiki culture feel like if couples and struggling marriages worked on it instead of getting into swinging right that's like that's like the the furthest it goes like

yeah if you get into swinging you just go to cruises if you work on it you just hang at tiki bars and you really like goofy drinks with funny names. It's like, yeah, the most problematic we get is the white gaze on Polynesian culture. And that's sort of our that's that's how we get our rock. And that's the name of one of the pina colada drinks. Yeah, but it's G-A-Y-Z-E. And I love the tiki. I'm all in.

I just decided this is what I like now. And I don't I want to go to tiki bars. I think they're funny. I think the Tiki. I'm all in. I just decided this is what I like now. And I don't, I want to go to Tiki bars. I think they're funny. I think they're weird. They have old, one of the coolest bars in the world is a Tiki Tea in Los Angeles. Yeah. I really love these things. I just, I want to go.

Everyone's friendly and it's funny and it's dark inside. And the drinks are hilarious. You were saying before we started recording, it was mainly like you started noticing your affection increase around Charlottesville, right? You were like, wait. I did. I did. The torches, unfortunately, that drove prices up. Yeah.

And if you look up driving in Charlottesville, it's not good either. Right. So. Right. Because it's what TKT just reopened, I think, right? Because they were closed for a minute. I think tragically someone in their family passed away. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. What I love about Tiki Tea is they seem to own their land and their business and their property and they're right in the middle of Silver Lake but they don't need to be open that much. They are just, you know, this is such

LA insider baseball, but they're next to the Scientology Production Center and they haven't sold their land to it yet and I love that. They're a Tiki bar on like an acre of land. Right next door, yeah. They just close for love that they're like an acre of land next door yeah they just closed for months they're like we're closed for august and september so our employees can chill because they don't know anyone anything only 20 people can go inside i love them yeah and i'm all in on tiki drinks what's uh i was so funny i i was at city walk and i went to

bubba gump shrimp and they got like a tiki like a tiki drink and they're like you know uh for like an extra buck you can take the glass home with you and i'm like yes yeah wait really yeah i have the dumbest right now i haven't used it but i have a bubba gump shrimp tiki glass is there something i don't know what it is kyle i'm i'm here with you is this something so campy but comforting about this weird parallel universe like where like this tiki shit i don't know it's just i love it i want to say victor by the way yeah just just wrote uh for one dollar three question marks and then we just saw a victor-shaped hole in the wall behind him yeah well the thing is you could also have taken it home for free yeah they're

trying to get you to pay a dollar to not steal it and to feel okay about theft because i'm sure enough of them walked out the door it was like the the the uh moscow mule grass mug great theft of 2014 that was every bar went under investing in those i'm not gonna lie bro the griffin i'm sorry i was taking your fucking copper mugs fool before you were asking for ids i was i know when they started asking they would hold your id if you got a moscow for the copper mug i'm like no fool this is mine oh man i have way too many of those i'm not proud of them but i've got four tiki glasses. Give me the tiki. Give me nice earnest. What are tiki glasses? They're just like big.

They're usually like ceramic with like painted, you know. Sort of like a weird face or a mask looking thing. Or like a parrot or something like that. Yeah. It's like Margaritaville without the Ticketmaster fees. Okay. Nice. Precisely.

What's something you guys think is overrated? Being awake, honestly, right now i just um consciousness i just feel like there's just so many times that i'm just like i don't know what else to do other than take a nap i need to it's like tapping out it's like closing the laptop screen of reality and i just need to do that so often and i just feel like there's so many like who what wouldn't be solved by people taking a nap like all of the the assholes the oppressors take a nap just take a nap yeah just shush a little nappy happy and good night so they don't enter your they don't enter your dreams too freddy style yeah yeah it's freddy krueger style for me then i have dreams like i'm in the resource wars that's true kim and i are actually not afraid of freddy krueger we

already know how we would defeat him and mine would be punching up all of his one-liners and kim's would be either laughing sincerely at them and complimenting him on his one right oh my god you are so funny you're so cute yeah i just become this is freddy krueger yeah yeah or what's worse is and i've been on the receiving end of this and it hurts if uh if you make a joke you don't get and kim doesn't think it's funny there's no polite laughter there's no like a good one it's just a blank stare where you just feel like you have all the time in the world to contemplate where you went wrong in every aspect of your life so i think my feet just cut off or cut out or something i don't what sorry should i take it never never mind do you want to hear the joke again did you not get get it? Yeah. So I don't worry about Freddie in my dreams, in my naps.

I don't worry about it. Making jokes to my mom, she would do the same thing. Just be like. It's the facial equivalent of like. So you're into that, huh? That's what you're doing? Oh, gosh. You're proud of that one?

Okay. It's just, it's debilitating. It sticks with you. It's worse than like someone saying dude shut up yeah honestly i'd be like oh fuck now i gotta fill in the blanks and they're probably worse i would welcome kim being like you are such a dumb bitch like i would welcome it but the yeah sometimes that's all you have to offer. Okay. Yeah, I get it. It's power though. It's power.

It is power. I appreciate that. I appreciate those displays of power. Being awake, I feel that. Do you ever remember your dream too well? I had a dream last night and it was like I spent the whole night looking for a bag

and it was like, just, it was like, I know I left it in this house, this cottage on this farm and just, it was not there. And I would just keep, it was so boring and so frustrating and just like,

so I don't know. But were you able to like trace it back to like something that you're struggling with in your consciousness? No. I just came back from a trip and probably there was some stress that I'd leave a bag behind. It was very straightforward. Nothing interesting or no texture. Whose bag was it?

Yeah. And what was in the bag? Holy shit. It was my mom. Oh. No. No, it wasn't. It was just like some clothes or some shit anyways so i i agree i love i love sleep especially that moment like as you're drifting off when like the brain chemicals just start dumping in oh yeah oh yeah heaven the best oh yeah but then, yeah, the dreams, my dreams, I just have notes for my dreams.

Like, yeah, some network. Yeah, mine are fucking weird. Yeah. Yeah. Last night I had one. I was I was working at an immersive theme park, like as a tour guide. And but also I had to. No, but here's the thing.

I had to pee. So, like, in real life, it was time for me to pee. thing i had to pee so like in real life it was time for me to pee and yeah i gotta pee but like i'm still doing this tour and it was like torn between like oh fuck what do i do and then part of me was like dude i gotta piss and then i just kind of came out of the dream and then i tried to catch it like going back you know how sometimes you're like i'm going back in yeah i thought you were about to tell us that you just wet the bed. I was going to say, did you have to pee when you were back? No, it's been a while.

I've not like the closest I've come. Cause I used to like, as a kid, I remember my dreams when I pee the bed, I was peeing in the dream. Like I found a bathroom and I started peeing and then I like, Oh, SpaghettiOs, my bed is all wet. But now when I, in a dream, when I see the bathroom, like I think I've become aware enough of my dreams. I'm like, Oh bro in a dream when i see the bathroom like i think i've become aware enough of my dreams i'm like oh bro you're about to piss the bed and i'm like it's a dream it's a dream who did that when he was drunk a lot oh yeah oh yeah but without the

dreams yeah just did it it was my calling card for a number of years very cool calling card what uh kim what is something you think is underrated or overrated let's go with overrated let's do it let's try that i had a hard time with this one but so i i did have to google some options i wasn't sure i put unboxing videos oh i don't get it i don't know if those are still a thing i think for kids like the best like the biggest kid youtubers are like unboxers yeah but i don't get it like why do i want to watch you yeah get like a free cool thing and then i don't have that cool thing and then i just watch you have it i think if you know you have no chance of getting it then the next best thing is watching

someone open it and just so you can see what all the cool stuff that it comes with is right as someone who like would watch them yeah and be like why the fuck am because like when i watched him i felt like it was right after i forget which financial crash but one of them one of our lifetime i was like oh man what's in this like what's in this new fangled like tech thing that i can't afford and I was like oh that's cool that's cool and then but I yeah that's about it I don't I think I'm too covetous of a person you'd covet your neighbors unboxing oh so you're just like mad that

they got it and you're like fuck you yeah you're just saying you think you're better than me under your breath the whole time that you're watching that feels like an only child thing like I feel like? Yeah. That feels like an only child thing. Like, I feel like I would be doing that as an only child. Like, man, fuck you.

Because I remember being at birthday parties as a kid. I'm like, bro, they got that? Fuck. Yeah. They're like, I don't like them anymore. No, I'm like, man, I would have played the fuck out of that toy. But that dude's going to fucking throw it on their pile of 700 toys they just got. I would just befriend

them so that i could go over to their house and play oh yeah yeah and then break it so they can never have it again yeah or or try to be like we're trying to bring like a less cool toy over and be like look how cool this thing is you can have it if you want maybe i can we can trade it for like i don't know like that that thing that's not even that cool at all. Yeah, that kind of sucks. I heard it's for babies, dude. Yeah, that's what we're doing. This is cool. It's like a laser toy from Japan. But I don't know.

I'll take a baby toy to help you out. Just to help you out, dude. Wow. Oh, really? You like that? A lot of back of the nose laughter. I feel like that's true okay wait that was on your wish list oh my god that's really like back of the nose laughter as a description that's great i'm gonna steal that watch out he's litigious no fucking i will come after you yeah yeah and

everything you own if i ever are you saying that well i kind of think back of the nose laughing is for babies though don't you think i mean yeah and i was just joking about being litigious i think it sucks actually whatever whatever no it's yours it's yours yours, actually. I fucking hate it. I think it sucks. All right. Let's take a quick break, and we'll come back, and we'll talk about JD Vance.

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Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And so, I don't know, there was a lot of conversation around like how Trump was going to walk away from the assassination attempt. And, you's like he was going to be changed he was going to be a unifier and it seems like some things haven't changed at the very least no that is his willingness to grift to make that money and he's already ranting you know just like fire and brimstone type shit.

So the unifying thing, I don't know. I don't know where that came from, aside from like a talking point. But we'll see. I mean, he's yet to actually give his real speech at the RNC, so we'll see. But yeah, the grift on his almost martyrdom has begun because now one of his companies is selling shitty sneakers with that now famous image of him bloodied and fist pumping. And these limited edition high tops here, I'll share it with the class, Meg, in case you need to see these because they are fantastic.

They look like something you'd put together on a Word document. Just be like, okay, let me drag this over here. Word is generous, I think. I think this is like paint. Yeah, you're right. It is MS Paint. document just be like okay let me drag this let me drag this over here generous i think i think this is like yeah yeah you're right it is ms paint and like yeah it's true it has his like fist bumpy bloody face on it with the word words fight fight fight on the soul and i know this is clearly a mock-up and not what the original or what the actual final product would look like will look like but either way it looks like shit. But the way they are promoting it is, quote,

these limited edition high tops featuring Trump's iconic image with his fist raised, honor his unwavering determination and bravery with only 5000 pairs available. Each one is a true collector's item. Show your support and patriotic pride with these exclusive sneakers capturing a defining moment in history. Are they from him officially or are they? Oh, yeah. What? You couldn't get away with it, right?

This is their own. Well, first, I want to say before I get to the origin, they are only two hundred ninety nine dollars. Oh, that's a steal, right? And yes. Thank you, Meg. That's what I've been trying to tell Jack before we got on Mike. It's a limited edition. That's why my garage is full of them.

The gold ones, you remember the gold ones that he debuted at SneakerCon? Those sold for $399. So this is a nice entry point. You know what I mean? Well, those are made of gold, right? Very heavy. No, but there is a lot of lead in the metallic materials, I think. So you should probably stop.

Yeah, heavy is the foot that wears the shoe thank you as they as they say wow you are literary as shit damn just too too online dude that was so fucking literary i fuck with that um just oh fuck man i'm like sideline i'm like i really gotta set my shit up um but 10 random pairs of these 5,000 will be signed. But here's the thing. These shoes, which I've called the Air Red Flag 2s, they are being made by the exact same company that did the gold sneaker. And Trump's like, they're not political. They don't have anything to do with the campaign or whatever. But this company, he owns the fucking company that makes them.

And like the address if you look for the business is located is like his golf one of his golf courses in florida so it's not technically like he shouldn't be doing this i mean jack in the year of our lord 2024 we know not how antiquated is yeah what is it to even say that crimes don't exist anymore it's just it's a free-for-all yeah Yeah. Only thought crimes. Yeah. They seem like bootleg, like, Avengers shoes. Like, you know, like children's clothing or children's shoes that have just, like, a screen-printed Robert Downey Jr. on it, you know? Right. Because you don't put photographs on shoes as far as like i can't think

of another example of a photograph on shoes other than bootleg avengers sneakers say uh jalen brown i think had some interesting paintings on his sneakers in the past right but i don't know about yeah i don't know about direct to garment printing it looks like like what a homelander from the boys would wear like once he's fully washed yeah you know what i need i need these i need these like i need pictures of these out in the wild because i think they're gonna look amazing well yeah just like the gold sneakers they spoiler alert they looked like shit. What do you mean? Are they not American made? No. Not even close.

Not even close. It's for them to turn the kind of profit they want off a $399 sneaker. Like, I'm sure these are being made for like four to five. So do with that information what you will. It didn't just look like you were standing in the briefcase from Pulp Fiction. Like you just had the glow coming up. glow coming up no no unfortunately not no all right so we still don't know much about the motive at this point of the person who the 20 year old matthew crooks no matthew crooks is his dad right his thomas mat Crooks. Thomas Matthew Crooks. That's how you know.

Three names. Yeah. But we continue to learn little bits about him, like that his dad was like highly targeted, highly indexed by the Trump campaign back in 2016 because of he had all the all the factors you look for in a Facebook like data profile. He was like, I think, number seven of like thousands of people in his town. He like scored a point nine nine on a scale of one point. Oh, yeah. In terms of like what they figured is like a voter who would be like especially open to targeted messaging around gun rights. Yes.

So, I mean, all that really does is show that like crooks came from a conservative home but like really nothing else about his motives but meanwhile both sides continue to point fingers and come up with all kinds of shit there's like it was biden pulling strings with the secret service to get trump got or trump definitely seems like biden by the way like right now he seems like somebody who's just behind everything, pulling the strings, super competent. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah. Or a lot of liberals are coping by saying like this is Trump's had to have staged this to help, you know, really cement his candidacy. Then other people like this is retaliation from the deep state. Then there was like the Secret Service was trying to make it look like an accident and he was going to get jfk'd or whatever then another person like

it's the fact that there were women that exist in the secret service that's that's why and that's clearly the problem yeah the dei bullshit is so on point like for the right um because everything is dei now like it's whether that's their way to be like not at this point, not really coded racism. But, you know, it's like I don't want to say the N-word, so I'll say DEI. I don't want to say I outwardly hate women. I'll let the policy speak for that. But I will I will summon DEI as a way to cast dispersions on the Secret Service. But like even Eric Trump was on CNN, like fully putting his support behind the Secret Service agents. Even Eric Trump was on CNN, like fully putting his support behind the Secret Service agents. He said, quote, one of the females on the stage.

She's with me for three years. I know everything about her. She would take a bullet for me. She would take a bullet for him as courageous as they come. Same with everybody else who is around him. The head of his detail was on that stage, too. So, according to Eric Trump, quote quote the female one is okay um the best way to know that you're an ally to women you call them females yeah one of the females on this stage i'm like are you on a men's rights podcast right now what the fuck are you talking about and it was

also reported but uh earlier this week that the secret service was actually became aware of a plan that the iranian government had a plot to potentially assassinate Trump. It said this, quote, Secret Service learned of the increased threat from this threat stream. The National Security Council directly contacted the Secret Service at a senior level to be absolutely sure they continue to track the latest reporting. And they said as a result of this, quote, Secret Service surged resources and assets for the protection of former President Trump. All of this, quote, Secret Service surged resources and assets for the protection of former President Trump. All of this was in advance of Saturday. That means law enforcement was apparently beefing up their presence and were being extra vigilant. Yet this person was able to

climb on the roof of a building that had law enforcement inside of it just to add insult to injury. So wait, there were law enforcement in the building that he was climbing on yes inside like yo what is that sound i don't know it's like squirrels or something but i think it's also entirely possible that like the police are not good at their jobs thank you whoa whoa i know this is i don't say it with your whole chest I don't say it with your whole chest. Sorry, I don't I don't know if I can, but maybe that could also be true here, because I've seen a lot over the last few years that would suggest they're not the best at preventing crimes. They're usually really good at violating people's rights and personhood or, you know, ending their lives tragically. That seems to be something that they have demonstrated high efficiency at. But yeah,

I don't know. That's not the conversation being had right now. It's either DEI or it was staged. Those are your two options, Democrats and Republicans. I actually see no signs of societal rot here at all. Yeah. We do not like incompetence as the explanation for a historical event. Generally, we, we will just write the incompetence out, whether it be Hitler oversleeping on D-Day and like everybody being too scared to wake him up.

And that being the thing that like helped the allied forces win D-Day or, you know, the version of the jfk assassination which i think is the most reasonable explanation that a secret service agent actually fired the third shot that actually struck him in the head and killed him by accident but when you raise that possibility to people they are hostile they are fucking they want you to shut up. Human error? Yeah, they don't like that shit

at all. I don't know. This sounds like a great topic for me to bring up this Thanksgiving with my father. Yes. I don't know what could go wrong. Yeah, we just don't want to admit that it's a bunch of dummies out there. What would the response be from your dad if you said, I don't know, maybe they messed up and aren't that good?

Pass the gin. Pass the gin. All right. Well, that is my favorite Thanksgiving side is the gin. The gin. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah. All right.

I do want to just touch on because the reasons to replace Joe Biden have not stopped rolling in. There's been some high profile moments, obviously, in the aftermath of an attempted assassination on one of the presidential candidates. He had a couple of speeches that he gave. The one where he said, we saw resolve our differences at the battle box and lingered. And he wasn't seriously lingered he wasn't seriously lingered differences at the battle box and yeah we do and then it seems to recognize it and then go back and say battle box again like it was like but that was pre-taped right that wasn't that wasn't like a live press conference in front with an audience. It was like him at his desk.

Yeah, that's him at the desk. But I don't know. I honestly don't know the nature of whether it was fully live or pre-taped. Either way. He just couldn't pull it off. He couldn't do the thing. There's like this interview with Complex Magazine where he just can't do it. It's like 19 minutes.

It might seem like, oh, well, he doesn't give a shit. He's with Complex. But he needs to nail every interview, first of all. And also, it's like a young audience who he's really struggling with. And he just can't maintain his train of thought.

Like there's one part where, you know, the first question, the guy's the first question is like, so you're getting up there, man. Like a lot of people think you're too old. And he, I tried to transcribe this, but he says, I didn't plan on running because in 2020, when Barack asked me to be vice president, which was a tremendous honor, I joined him, which was a great honor. But after that, I became professor at University. It's just like the timeline is like all fucked up. And then he like brought up Charlottesville and you're like, yeah.

And like all he had to say was like, well, I didn't want to run. And then Charlottesville happened. And that's when I decided. But like, he's just he can't stay on point. And right. Like, there are multiple times in this interview where this like 18 year old kid. I don't I don't know how speedy. It's speedy.

No, no speedy. He's like in his 30s. But he's speedy is no speedy's speedy's uh he's like in his 30s speedy is bailing him out like multiple times he's like okay uh so that's later he's asked why trump has support of people in the hip-hop community and like biden talks about his work on civil rights in high school, I think he says. But then, like, can we just play the ending of this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's just, he just shorts out. And the number of folks participating

didn't slow down because it didn't reduce. So, look, I, you know, Trump... There are some people who've made their mind up. What? And they've decided. He said, oh, never mind. But, you know, Trump. What is it with Speedy doing interviews where people get, like, the famous Ray J?

Oh, he's the Ray J indestructible sunglasses interview. Yeah. He's like, go ahead, Speedy, break them. They're indestructible sunglasses interview Really? Yeah He's like go ahead Speedy break them They're indestructible Oh yeah that is Speedy And he's like Ray come on I don't care And now Joe Biden's out here like

I don't know But you know Trump Pause Pause Pause He did a similar thing at the NAACP convention too It's just not working. Like, it's just he's not like this is alarming to anybody who's not lying to themselves right now.

Anyone who has a pulse. Yeah. Yeah. And truly. So I don't know. attempt on donald trump people were making this argument that well the debt this stops the attempt to replace biden in its tracks like the only the like we can't that thing that idea is dead and it doesn't make like there i there's no argument there like the only argument i've seen is that Trump is

like the attempted assassination is taking up all the media attention but like we're not asking for you to make a great TV moment we're asking you to do what is best for the fucking country and well I think it's the same thing of like all the Dems are just stuck in

playing respectability politics they don't want to rock the boat like they don't want to they don't want to change anything yeah but wouldn't when everyone's distracted be a good time to admit like to go ahead and do the thing that you need to do uh with this candidate and hold of you to think they're gonna seize a good idea right yeah well this is the thing with the DNC, right? Like they're just so-ed was like, yo, this dude is a fucking scale. What are we fucking talking about here? And not like it wasn't all the people saying he is too old for this shit for like literal years now. Like, you know, like they did everything they could. They nuked the primary debate schedule and pretty much forced this bad choice on everyone

and hardly what I would call a, you know, like democratic process, yet we're being like beaten to death with this messaging about the fate of our democracy. It's really frustrating. And it's the DNC like specifically that is like protecting Biden. And that's why we are now hearing talks

of like a virtual roll call to accelerate his nomination and basically have him be the nominee like well over a month before the actual convention happens. And if that happened, that would effectively just make the actual convention meaningless. Like at the end of August, the whole point, even though it is very ceremonial, it's like to get a sort of, you know, it's like we're moving out of the primary season and now we're into the general election season. Everybody's together. They're the candidate but if they're like sorry assholes we did this one behind your backs this is your fucking person now you get to hear you know oprah make a speech or something

it's a very different different very different vibe and i think again that's sort of how the dnc works so it's like we don't want anyone we don't want anyone, we don't want any debate, we don't want to discuss anything, we don't want any dissent. Because you also think about the 36 delegates that are the uncommitted delegates in states that were able to have delegates be uncommitted, like in Michigan, Minnesota, other states like that, that was that's a big moment for those people to really air their grievances about what's happening in Gaza and potentially get some kind of concession from the administration or potential new administration. But if it's all said and done, there's really nothing to be fucking worked out at all. And it just becomes like a foregone

conclusion. And yeah, they just really don't want any open dissent on the convention floor. And this is just sort of part and parcel of what they're doing and now they're just fully just doubling down on this terrible fucking hand and demonstrating you know that the lack of awareness uh that has plagued them i mean they're actively pushing back against some of their biggest donors right now which you know like that is that's very un dnc is to be like well what the fuck do you know? Your donors? There are donors who are withholding funding from candidates down ballot, local candidates. They're withholding funding from them if they don't openly call for Biden to step aside.

They're like, we need you to do that. I don't know if we're getting a, you know, outsized amount of attention on the people who want him to step aside because that is the more interesting like news angle. And therefore, it just seems like it's the consensus when it's a small portion of the consensus. But it does seem pretty straightforward that I don't know how you run him i just don't know how he continues to run the country and run for president yeah well if like you if the decline was this serious between 2020 and now what's it going to look like between now it doesn't get better even 2026 like the midterms um and then you're fully dealing with like a meme president where people like dude this guy like the spooky ghost from the indiana jones movie in a suit like no it's like not gonna work it's just a and yeah it's really it really hinders any kind of groundswell of support that could occur um if there was a candidate where at least people were like, well, at least that person could formulate a sentence coherently in a debate consistently for the next four years ish. which buddy,

I don't like, but I guess he needs the doctors who gave him a clean bill of health, like a few months ago to come back and be like, all right, we were fucking around. Like you're, you're a mess up there. Or he also said if he thought there was no path for him to win, not if he thought someone else had a better path to win.

It's just, if he thought he had no path to win, which is pretty wild. Like, so his logic is entirely self-centered, like in that respect. It's only, the only thing that matters is that he has a small chance at winning. They're trying to get us all on board with, think about the collective good. Like that's all I'm thinking about is like what could possibly stop donald trump from being the next president like that you know that's what everybody else is thinking about and he's like only only if i can't possibly win which seems just just wild well this is the mindset that's like so pervasive in

dc just in general and in politics it's just you have some of these people who are like i'm gonna die holding on to power and that's like my right and it only leads us to just again nothing inspiring more of the same and at worst seeing this thing unfold in like a really grim way while they continue to be like everything america will end and you like, and we're counting on. Okay. Right. Okay. As long as they can continue to, to just bang out the, you need to vote. That's the only way you'll see change party line. You know,

it's just the assumption that everyone's going to get in line because it can't get worse. Right. Right. Yeah. It's yeah. And they've, they've done an amazing job at making this all like,

I'm pretty, I need to look at his website, but a while ago there weren't really there wasn't really anything policy wise on their campaign website. It was just like issues, which I'm also like, come on, man. Like, where's the policy? Like, let's talk about policy rather than like, yeah, we know body autonomy is important. What's your fucking plan? We know the Supreme Court is fucking corrupt and completely politicized. What's your fucking plan we know the supreme court is fucking corrupt and completely

politicized what's your plan and it sounds like they're there he was supposed to make an announcement on that about on monday actually about a supreme court reforms but again the assassination attempt completely sort of derailed the speaking schedule so but they are expected like by the time you hear this there might be be a plan out. It's supposed to be announced fairly soon. He's been working. He's been in the lab talking to constitutional scholars about about like term limits and, you know, various Supreme Court reforms. But I think it would be pretty tricky to pull off based on what I've read to this point. But we'll see what that plan is. on what I've read to this point, but we'll see what that plan is. On JoeBiden.com, like under issues, like it'll be things like protecting and strengthening our democracy,

growing the middle class, fighting the lower costs for working families. It's more just like, and it's always juxtaposed with like what the campaign believes and then what Trump would do. And it's never thinking like substantive. It's like, yeah, we need good high paying jobs.

Okay, talk about how that becomes reality. It's like, yeah, we need good high paying jobs. Okay. Talk about how that becomes reality. It's like, we, we, we believe in good high paying jobs. And it's like, but Donald Trump doesn't. Oh, okay. Give a little bit more rather than just merely, again, they've, this is like the gift and the curse. It is the gift and the curse of running against. Yeah.

It's the gift and the curse of running against Donald Trump, as we've seen, is that the entire DNC strategy is just to merely just gesture to the Republicans as their entire platform and be like, well, that no. And it's just it's completely that well has run pretty dry at this point. I feel like. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk about Twisters. Okay. I'm Jess Casavetto,

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and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. We're back. And I am curious, as someone who has kind of worked in the fields of medical bullshit, what your diagnosis would be for why our current information ecosystem is so bad. I feel like it's the internet for sure. the internet for sure but i also feel like there's this underlying hyper capitalism ethos where like goop can be completely full of shit but still get like good press because it's got like because it's making money basically because it's like i i don't you know business insider the

business insider of it all is like yeah she's made a great product and that's yeah cool it's making money basically because it's like i i don't you know business insider the business insider of it all is like yeah she's made a great product and that's yeah cool it's called goop yeah and so there's just like so many ways to launder this pseudo-scientific bullshit that yeah i feel like used to be relegated to the back of like magazines and now is like you know a big multi-billion dollar brand yeah like the dodgy ads from the back of the magazine are now are like medical truths that we have accepted right yeah this is i don't think you're misreading that i think that is kind of what i'm seeing as well i mean griffs medical grifts, I mean, they've been around forever, but,

and they reinvent themselves all the time. Like, I got interviewed about Gwyneth Paltrow's rectal ozone therapy and I had to look into that and I was like,

oh, that's not necessarily new. I mean, it's just one way or another. Yeah, yeah. Don't do it as long as you're short of it.

But like, coffee enemas, enemas to detox and cleanse, all these things that people try to do, they're like urine therapy, drinking urine. These are things that always come back in one form or another. Yeah, like Napoleon was doing that shit. worse. And I think a lot of that is sort of the direct to consumer marketing that you see from like these people, these influencers online or people selling supplements and that sort of thing. So, and these people have like zero sense of medical ethics because most of them aren't doctors and the ones that are medical professionals don't seem to care that much. I will also put some of the blame on us as doctors because, you know, we talk about placebo and you know usually in the past doctors be like yeah placebo fine if it works great and that's true i usually don't care but we let a lot of

stuff that seemed inconsequential go in the past and not fight ah so gwyneth paltrow wants to put a jade egg in her vagina what's the the harm you know they want to they want to take this whatever pill x or supplement what's the harm it's a low risk thing. And the truth it comes to something that's maybe a more real, like proven medical treatment, or say a vaccine, they don't know who to trust, because there's so much out there, so much information out there, that seems contradictory, that we sort of let slide, that like now, if someone who is an influencer, who, you know, we never like addressed before, is now saying something a little more serious and consequential like don't get your vaccine then that now we have a real

problem and i think we have to now be more aggressive about these things like even if it's a low risk thing for most people to take supplements and for most people it is it's low risk not for everyone they put like you know a lot of like we joked about like lead in these things you'll see but like there's things in there that can hurt the liver. There's even like liver cleanses that actually have ingredients in them that can hurt the liver because it's completely unregulated. There's very little regulation that goes into this. And so, you know, if we're not careful about the little things, then they can spiral, they can sort of like snowball into bigger and bigger

problems down the road and really help erode a lack in real medical treatment, proven evidence based science treatment, you know? And so I think it's a lot on us as doctors. We have to be more vigilant about this stuff and call out bullshit, even if it seems relatively inconsequential. Yeah. Do you think there's another part too because i i mean i i'm sure this has something to do with it because our medical system especially here in the united states is so bad that so many people end up slipping through the cracks or having a doctor that isn't taking them seriously and you know small issues become things that are life-threatening very quickly and then and then anecdotally that gets around, it's like, well, the doctors don't know what the fuck they're talking about and shit like that.

How much of like sort of the, you know, trying to resolve all this is also just sort of on having like a better medical system where people feel like, ah, this, this seems more dependable. Cause I feel like a lot of distrust someone, it comes from someone with like an anecdote about something that happened to someone they know. And that's why now it's like, oh, well, they're just saying shit or whatever. They're going to miss stuff. That's why I do my own research or et cetera, or whatever thing that people want to say when it comes to that. Yeah, our medical system is a wreck. We pay more and we get worse quality than we should. And then a lot of countries who are supposed to be are sort of at our level are doing. So absolutely.

And people are looking for other means to get care and treatment. I mean, I'm always a little worried about doing this because people, you know, I'm worried about giving direct medical care and treatment online because you can't do that. You don't know somebody online. But we do need to create a better system so people don't have to turn to things online. They don't have to look for a doctor or someone online recommending a treatment or going to some sort of app where they can order psychiatric meds. And they should have better care directly from their medical offices that they go to, or hopefully have the insurance to

even go to see a doctor. So yeah, no, I mean, a big part of this, I totally acknowledge is based on the fact that our system is very dysfunctional, if not broken. And all on top of that, something else you mentioned is true too. I mean, people oftentimes feel like they're not being listened to by their doctor. And I can see that. I understand it.

I'm sure it happens constantly and all the time. And I can see that. I understand it. I'm sure it happens constantly and all the time. And that's hard. I mean, a lot of, I feel for the doctors too in that regards, because most of these primary care doctors are extraordinarily overworked. And they're swamped with email after email after email, and they can't really put in the energy and the time to each one to make that person feel heard. That doesn't mean they shouldn't try. It doesn't mean that that's not something we need to do. But yeah, I know a lot of people who don't feel like they're listened to by the medical profession. Sometimes that can have devastating consequences. Oftentimes not, but sometimes it can be devastating. And since you did concede that point, are you willing to say that electrolytes are something we need because i see that it's one

of the top selling when i look at supplements like i'm looking at the like amazon health i feel like looking at the top charted products on amazon's a good idea of what people think they need for their bodies and electrolytes is like one of the high everyone's fucking on electrolytes right now uh yeah it's just because we don't want to drink water i'm like it's just weird to me i'm like isn't that just isn't the salt they put in gatorade it's because we've lost our way and nobody wants to drink gatorade anymore because no one wants to work no one wants to work and no one wants to drink gatorade yeah yeah water isn't that sexy anymore people like i mean it has to be like death liquid or whatever the name of that company i'm like they just officially became a geriatric so like this is that's a real that's a real thing

that's a the electrolyte thing it can be useful for people like serious athletes but for most of us regular water we're not performing at that level where we need to squeeze the margins out of hydration like that yeah exactly you're not most people are not becoming like hyponatremic when they're like doing their exercise but i mean it as again it's one of those things where for a long time we're just like oh okay whatever smart water that that's great yeah and it exists what's the pH on that? Right. Right. And now, I mean, again, it's all, I'm starting to feel more and more like it's a slippery slope. The more we accept sort of like unnecessary stuff, the worse the outcomes down the road become. So we end up with someone like RFK, who actually is like a legitimate candidate.

I mean, he's not gonna win but still he's actually out there people are hearing and listening to his garbage in in but i i'm sorry i really dislike him so i i shouldn't have brought him up but that's how we get people like that in our lives right yeah from not being like no you're wrong go leave leave yeah exactly no no i'm telling you i'm telling i'm telling you about these vaccines man you're like no you're not telling the shit yeah yeah it's it's interesting like the dr oz like wager like you know his argument to himself seemed to be that it was all worth it because he was educating people on stuff they wouldn't have normally like been educated about and it was fine if he like flipped the margins a little bit or like told a

couple lies here and there and then you know we see where that ends and i feel like the whole that's kind of what you're describing just across the board a little bit that's exactly it in in i yeah i feel a little bit for for him because i you know if you're doing a show every day and you have to just start like coming up with shit medically at some point some of the stuff's gonna get questionable but i mean you know he should he supposedly he was supposedly a good doctor you know he should that like you can't lose that and if you do you have to stop calling yourself dr oz you know right oz at that point so i mean i yeah i that is exactly the that's exactly what happened i mean it started out with him talking about like poop and like he was the guy who like taught you like all of our mothers

like what a normal poop shape is supposed to be like on the oprah winfrey show and that was like fine cool we talked about fire yeah man but that was a very slow and gradual descent into nonsense and gibberish yeah to him saying the vagina is like a self-cleaning oven. And you're like, what is going on? You're saying this many times out loud. Okay. It's weird when he says it.

Yeah. Yeah. It is like self-cleaning oven. Like what you, who are you like a Maytag repair person or a doctor? Well, well he, I'll tell you this.

He gets that line maybe from Jen Gunter, who is a very famous and I think a really great OB-GYN. And that is in response to trying to tell people you don't necessarily need to be doing cleanses. It comes down to the whole cleansing thing.

So in that sense, I think that's where he got it. But then he is one of these guys who will have people on who are on the fringes of the medical world and want to sell things. And,

and he gives them air and he's given them lots of attention. He did when he had a show. So yeah. Yeah. He, he also sucks. All the doctors. I can't think of really one that's famous online that I'm trying or,

or TV. That's not. Dr. Feel good. Yeah. Yeah. He's the one to call. Yeah.

Yeah. And Dr. Pat, the aforementioned Dr. Pepper. It's pretty. Dr. Feelgood? Yeah. He's the one to call. Yeah. That's awesome. And Dr. Pepper, the aforementioned Dr. Pepper, it's pretty, helps the healthy nerves, helps you feel better. Did great work overseas, yeah. Is there a subject that you think we've missed that is just something that you come up against, like either a bullshit belief or I know I've heard you talk about you know the answer is often like we don't actually know on a lot of things you know something that most people think we definitively know that's more of a mystery or um yeah there's probably a lot but i will say that you know because i'm a gastroenterologist one of the things that I get asked a lot about or people will talk to me about are coffee enemas. And that's the constant bane of my existence. And if I can use this as a platform

to tell people to not get them, I will. I mean, coffee is great. I love coffee. I think there's actual health benefits to coffee. There's actually some decent ones. We actually did an episode of our show with one of the weirder ones with a great hepatologist named Elliot Tapper, prop, the musician and podcaster, and Deepak Chopra's brother, who covered a lot of the health benefits of it. But there is no added benefit to putting coffee up your butt and potential harm. And not just if it's hot. It could be some chemical thing in there that irritates your colon as well. So don't do that. Don't do shit like that. Just don't do cleanses.

Don't do them. I think the first person I heard talk about it, I feel like a, I feel like it was like Janet Jackson or some shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're like somehow I remember like in the nineties, it was like this one thing we're like, dude, that celebrity is just boofing just gallons of coffee in their butt. And that's, I think the new way to live or something. And it sort of, yeah, became very, very popular very quickly. So we just stick to only putting alcoholic beverages up our ass, no coffee. Oh, Jack, you missed that one. I'm not going to take away your joy. Yeah. I'm not a monster, guys. Okay.

Thank God. I do have to say, I feel like I always have to be like, look, I'm not totally against things going into butts. Okay. I'm just saying. Yeah. Just don't put coffee in there. It ain work in how you might think yeah yeah sure sure sure sure all right and that's just like your medical opinion man all right that's gonna do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist please like and review the show if you like the show. Means the world to Miles.

He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday. Bye. Thank you. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti.

And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the way we consume women's sports. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.