The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 331 (Best of 7/22/24-7/26/24)

Episode Date: July 28, 2024

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I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh-stravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. You do love to see it, Miles. And you know what else you love to see?

Love to see what? Tell me. Is when we can have this guest on. Mm-hmm. A best-selling author of books like john dies at the end zoe punches the future in the dick and the new standalone novel which you can pre-order now i guess i can i say it's a standalone i mean it's not part of a previous franchise but it's one that i wouldn't mind seeing a sequel to or more from these characters. Also one of the hosts of the podcast Big Feets, which if I'm reading this New Yorker review correctly is, quote, the only Mountain Monsters podcast officially endorsed by Big Feet.

He's my former co-worker at Cracked.com, a co-creator of the Cracked podcast. Welcome back to the show, Jason Pargey! Jason! First of all, I'm not dying. Don't tell the papers that I'm dying. If I start coughing in the middle of the show, I realize that in a movie or TV show drama, if a character starts coughing, that means they're going to die. You did just pull back the napkin that you coughed into. It was a speck of blood. And then quietly hid it from you.

You looked around, your eyes darted back and forth, and then you tucked it into your waistband for some reason? But no, I'm just recovering from a cold. If I start clearing my throat, I am not trying to get their attention and demand that they let me talk. I am trying to clear mucus from my throat.

Just the way that you do it tends to be yeah but that's all right we'll just power through like we do all the time yeah if we see if we hear that horn take at the top we know you're not doing a dj cool let me clear my throat either how are you doing we're excited to have you back. I'm excited about this new novel, which I blew through in a single weekend. It's a good one for fans of Jason Pargin novels. I think they're really going to enjoy it, but it's probably a distant memory. Writing it was probably a distant memory to you at this point. How long ago was that? Like writing it was probably a distant memory to you at this point. How long ago was that? Writing it, yeah. But the dozens of interviews I'll have to give about it means I have to keep in mind what I wrote in it.

But for listeners who are in the middle of the total world chaos, we're doing a book review here. The book is relevant to what's going on. I promise you, you'll see why. And in fact, there's going to be at least one very annoying review, I predict, in a couple months that says, wow, this is so prescient. How did he predict that there would be an event that triggers all sorts of misinformation and chaos? That was not hard to predict at all. How did you know that? That was my first question, actually. We can just get right into it.

Who's your psychic, man? I love seeing the people with the little screenshots of the simpsons from 20 years ago it's like wow they predicted that elections would become stupid yeah in the future yeah that's did you see the one not take nostradamus the one where cypress hill though did actually perform with the london symphony oh really if you remember the homer fest thing he's like someone ordered the london symphony did someone do it when they were high and forgotten like cypress hills like oh shit did we do that and they're like yeah yeah they're actually performing with them now and they're like

we kind of had an opportunity and decided to make the simpsons prediction right so i mean you hear those violins on uh so some of the early cypress hill stuff you can yeah man yeah it was it was inevitable all right jason well we are going to talk about some of the early cypress hill stuff you can yeah man yeah it was it was inevitable all right jason well we are going to talk about some of the ideas in your book i'm starting to worry about this black box of doom is that what did i say that right yes i just realized i didn't say did i not say the title in the well this is the first time you've mentioned the title. What the fuck? I'm a pro, folks. But first, we do like to get to know our guests a little bit better by asking you, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?

I have a whole series of searches over the last few days trying to figure out what CrowdStrike is. Because it turned out all of modern civilization ran on it. I'd never heard of that company. It's an $80 billion company apparently. And I still don't know what it does. And this before the show, I tried to Google is the CrowdStrike thing over? Is that old news? Are flights still grounded around the world? I can't tell because Google search is broken. So I don't know. Does anybody at home know? Email me. Let me know.

Yeah, I think like it seems like there's still reports of flights being fucked up. Mainly like you have to go to the like the markets to see, you know, like it's like people reporting on the financials and they'll be like yeah our our reporting indicates because they have to get that right because money is at stake but it does seem like it's taken a while to untangle crowd strike and there it was just like an update that was ill-advised and somehow that took became one of the biggest technology fuck-ups yet to this point in human history a company that sounds like just a a board game from the 1980s yeah that would have been fun to play yeah for the makers of crossfire is crowd strike crowd strike there's i mean like there the stat that i saw that i was like oh right because everything's just consolidating is like they handle like these IT services for like 538

of the top 1000 companies. Yes. So like yeah, that chunk of like that kind of critical software going down. Yeah. Will cause a lot of chaos unless you're unless you're like a Linux person, in which case you were fucking laughing because you're like I'm on Linux. Fuck that. I think it's the range of things that went down that shocks people because it's like, okay, flights got grounded. Also, when we tried to buy coffee at Starbucks, their point of sale software was dead because of CrowdStrike. And then also, it's like a whole range of things across all of society.

911 service went down for some people for a while. Yeah, hospitals. It's like, oh, so this. Hospital. It's like, Oh, so this all runs. It's like, Hey, it all runs on a computer somewhere. And if those computers are running windows and if they're using

CrowdStrike to do whatever CrowdStrike does, I apologize, audience. I still don't know. Then yeah, they pushed out that updated brick, the computer. They could not simply push out another update because the only way to

fix it was to like manually install and delete a file because a file because the computers were stuck in a boot loop. So they couldn't just push out. So, yeah. But one, I don't know, one string of code crippled much of the world's economy instantly. The solution was ultimately the solution to all tech problems, which is just like restarting your computer. Throw it on the ground. Yeah. Throw it on the ground yeah throw it on the ground well no because like the one version was like you'd have to go into every individual computer and like take

this file out which you're like oh yeah like this this you can't just do this over the waves or at least at the time i the last i was like looking for videos i'm like please explain to me like i don't know what a computer is what the fuck is is going on. And I still, I came away with a very vague understanding. Yeah. But it does feel like this becomes more and more possible the more we turn everything over to the machines. And we're just like, yeah, they got it. We don't need humans on the ground doing, you know, local deployments that then, then if those work get deployed to more places it's yeah or yeah yeah or shout out to the i don't want to update my software crowd because they also

like just inadvertently gotten around things too yeah and some of the like anecdotal stuff i heard uh in the early days was or in the the early hours, I guess, was that the airlines that were actually functioning were the non-major carriers. And so it could be a situation where like CrowdStrike is the expensive higher end option that like sells for millions and millions of dollars that only a major corporation can eat. And so they got fucked by that.

Oh, yeah. Our services, we go through Cloud Clown. I think it's affordable. But yeah, we don't have any problems. It's the open source. The security is handled by Cloud Clown. What is something you think is underrated, Molly? Underrated.

What did I say? I might have said this on the show before because i only have three topics but uh the beach the beach is underrated go on tell me why i hate how cold the water is a lot of oh my god what are you a baby yes baby a finicky little you know who loves the beach though? It's baby. I know. I know. I'm trying to tell my baby. I'm like, bro, it ain't that cool.

Yeah. I just think, I think the beach is awesome. It's free. It's, it's cool. You get to go there when it's hot. I love the, how cold the water is. I actually, when I've been other places where they have warmer water in the ocean, I'm always like,

this sucks. Give me the Pacific. Oh, really? Give me that ice cold Saudi Pacific. Interesting. I love when the ice cold Pacific. You'll actually be like,

I don't like this warm water beach. Yes, because when I went to like Pensacola or it's the Gulf of Mexico, which is like, it's like when the water

is the same temperature as the air. It's not refreshing. Yeah, I get that part. The Gulf of Mexico is not actually an ocean. That's like a pool. Yeah, it's a gulf. Okay, fine. You hear what I'm saying. It's like shallow and warm.

Oh, you're saying it has a body of water. When I get in a body of water, I expect it to be freezing cold. And then when it's not, I'm like, oh, I wish it was freezing cold because it's like your body adjusts. This gazpacho is hot. Yeah, the gazpacho is hot. Just burp on it. I was expecting cold.

The gazpacho is hot. It's just vegetables. Yeah. I just took my kids to a beach cleanup this past weekend, which was a great way to like pass a Saturday morning. Like they got competitive about getting the best garbage like on the beach. What beach? Redondo. Oh, yeah.

See, that's where I like to go. Yeah. Redondo is great. It was like nice and, you know, it was super hot back where I live. But like down there, it was still like misty cool from that's what i mean i'm just i think it's i think it's underrated because i feel like there's a lot of people in la who never go to the beach yeah yeah truly i had the thought i was like we need to go to the beach more what are we doing and now i have a new policy of just like you know it's like an

hour in the car yeah but it's kind of an hour in the car to get anywhere yeah that's true so i might as well be at the beach at the end also the great part too is the people watching you will always see some shit at the beach you will always see some shit i mean great people watching and also like every time i've been there recently i've seen someone digging a really big hole yeah oh yeah how old like a child or like mostly children but like sometimes then it seems like it's like people will see someone doing it and then they start doing it but it's so funny it's like you turn around and someone's like buried in the sand up to their chest all of a sudden just see a head poking out yeah that's

what we do i'm about to go back east and that's basically every morning is just digging a big-ass hole in the beach. Yeah, I love that kids love it so much. It's like, again, a free activity that everybody loves, digging a big hole in the sand. Then you've got to fill that back in lest an elderly person fall into it. Besides my holes, all right? My holes become hazards for the elderly. Jack, you fall in a lot of holes on the beach? I'm just saying, watch out

for other elderly. Definitely not me because I have my wits about me. I'm just imagining you like Mr. Magoo. Just running with my head facing the sky. Chasing a seagull. That's my sandwich!

Get back here with my funnel cake. Is that your Mr. Magoo? We got all the hot cultural references. Genesis, Mr. Magoo. Always fascinating, Ben. What is something you think is overrated? Two things. I know this is close to a lot of us listening this evening

and close to you guys as well. I would say on a petty level, I don't dig Vegas. I think Vegas is overrated. Hoover Dam's awesome, but I'm just the schlubby guy. Vegas is not for me. You know what I mean? But more importantly, America's never-ending election cycle is so fucking weird. Don't get me wrong, the Hoover Dam, Bill, never-ending election cycle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's funny. We've had two Las Vegas contradicting opinions on Las Vegas over the last few episodes. Oh, really?

Yeah. Molly Lambert was on saying, well, she was more saying, I pick Vegas over Palm Springs. Palm Springs. Yeah. But yeah, either way, the never ending election cycle, though, is not just overrated. It's detrimental, I think, to the entire country to drag shit out like this and have every like all the attention go on this thing that really doesn't bring about a lot of change. I mean, depending on whose policies are enacted, but like truly the way we treat it.

And like, to the detriment of every other story that's happening in the country and in the world is a little fucking. Yeah. Yeah. That's my favorite response to the Kamala Harris, like taking over people being like, how's she going to run for president in this amount of time?

We don't have enough time. It's like, I don't know, look at literally every other country in the world. Exactly. You don't need that huge amount of time, but it makes the media billions and billions of dollars to have that kind of coverage. of coverage. It also reminds me of that it was a night out in the cold for me as a child when I learned that Red Lobster's special lobster fest

is just all the time. It's not a special occasion. It's always lobster fest. It's always election season here in the United States. Yeah, that's right. Alright guys, election season's coming up. Get your lobsters. Get your lobsters.

And lobsters. But this is different. Even Wolf Blitzer hates it. Come on. Wolf Blitzer. Oh, my gosh. He got his spritzer knocked out of his fucking hand instead of going to court on this shit.

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I'm nervous dude he seems so like genuine and just like rizzed up and oh my god he's the grand grand rizzard of the kkk dude this guy he's so got so much rizz but yeah like the continued fallout from biden's dropout like we've got some interesting insights in the Trump campaign. Like we, I think we were talking yesterday or the day before about, you know, the, one of the big takeaways was that the entire campaign was just praying to God every night that Biden stayed in the race. So like, dude, it can't be like, we, we did all of our homework on this one guy for years. This is, and by homework, we just mean we were going to do the thing about like, yo, this dude is so old, but now their biggest fear has come true and that they've pivoted away from joe biden and now they need an

entirely new playbook um and the other thing we found out yeah sorry it seems like did you ever i guess this doesn't really apply to you guys from being from la but like when there were snow days and you would like wait and wait and wait up to the last minute of like for school to be canceled and then you'd be like well it's too late they can't like have school now because they like waited too long oh yeah that seems to be like the republican that sounds like he's totally there yeah waited too long you can't he can't drop out now he it's like he waited too long like that doesn't make sense yeah if they didn't announce it yeah and i'm not going to school that's not fair

or like yeah in high school like if the the professor was late i always talk about like the 15 minute window yeah yeah yeah i'm like i'm like walking out to like down the hall like classes still happening like bro you are not in the room and if the 15 minutes hit i'm gone dude i'm gonna do that yeah he can't do that you're still gonna you're gonna miss the test i'm like, bro, you are not in the room. And if the 15 minutes hit, I'm gone, dude. I'm gone. Can he do that? Yeah. He can't do that. You're going to miss the test. I'm like, you fucking monster.

It's really funny to see the Republicans suddenly being like, what about the rules? Yeah. Just shut up, you hypocrites. It was never about the rules anyway. But yeah, the other thing that we found out was the selection of J.D. Vance is starting to make people in the campaign and like other allies of the trump camp crew like nervous um apparently his selection was based on just turning the maga knob up all the way and trying to maximize the turnout for their base they were not going for a like a vp pick that was going to bridge i't know, bring in some moderates or independents,

whoever that is anymore. It was like not a political decision. No. Yeah. They wanted to spike the football. They were like, yeah, dude,

it's a foregone conclusion, man. Get the fucking monster junior as his VP and we've got something like, and everyone's going to love it. But yeah, well, aside from the fact that he is unlikable and even, you know,

someone like Mitt Romney described him as a person, he could not disrespect more. He is also just, again, a black hole of the coveted Riz, man. The charisma is just not there. He recently had a very Jeb Bushian moment when he tried to make a

joke about drinking Mountain Diet Mountain... Wait. Diet Mountain Dip. I don't even know how to say it because like it doesn't even make sense run DMD here he is talking about doing that WMD it is the weirdest thing to me Democrats say that it is racist to believe well they say it's racist to do anything I had a diet Mountain Dew yesterday and one today. I'm sure they're going to call that racist too, but it's good. I love you guys.

Wait, holy shit. This is a full ass like crowd that is dying to like love this guy. This is actually this is like open mic energy. I know. Just lost the crowd. That copelapse. He couldn't even get a crowd full of racist white people with you guys like soda. Yeah.

Mountain Dew. I mean, I think the problem was that it was Diet Mountain Dew. You just need to fucking say. So what? But everyone's favorite Lana Del Rey song. It reminds me of I was this was actually a tweet I was going to like, but someone I'll give credit at Nick Moscato tweeted it like that clip and just said, guys says he's from Appalachia, then talked about drinking Diet Mountain Dew.

And they showed the scene from Inglourious Bastards. And he's like, three whiskeys. The wrong fingers. Hold on. Diet Mountain Dew? What the fuck are you talking about? Fuck. Yeah.

So he's that was very, very cringy. I also realized I was trying to figure out who he looks like. He looks like he would be in Zod's crew from Superman 2. He got the beard with the little eyeliner thing. He looks like Zod if Zod was Zinn. He looks like, this is for my... Kneel before Zinn! Come, son of Jor-El! Addicted to Zinn pouches. For my Bravo heads, if anybody watches Southern Charm, he looks exactly like this guy who's on Southern Charm, whose name is JT.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Who's like also just kind of like a weird, rizzless. Yeah. Yeah. Reptile human. Charlie Brownhead man. Yeah.

Yeah. He's a little cuter than JT Vance. I'll give Jarrett that thing. J.T. that that honor. But yeah, just certified reptile human energy from J.D. Vance, like just all the facial expressions, the hand gesture when he says, I love you guys. He gives like this point that is just like, and now I am pointing and I'm pointing. It's just he's like, I love you guys. It's very... Where is it? It's good. It's good.

One more time. It's good. I love you guys. Yeah, right? It's so fucking painful. And even like and that's what's kind of wild, too, because thinking like that, they were like the base is going to love this fucking guy. Like he's going to help turn out even more people. But like, again, this was a really poor showing.

But he has the racism down. I'll give him that. Yeah. Because earlier, I think later in the day, he was speaking again to another audience and was saying that Kamala Harris has been collecting a government check for the past 20 years. Hell, like as a politician. Yes. But OK. Yeah.

Welfare queen on my guy. I feel like so there's already people within the campaign, be it like somebody who was talking to the Trump campaign after Biden dropped out, was like, they seem very unhappy that Biden dropped out. Right. And this is a quote from an Atlantic staff writer, Tim Albart. The most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second guessing of J.D. Vance, a selection they acknowledged that was born of cockiness meant to run up margins with the base and a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail biter and i feel like trump's body is going to reject this man in the way that like it rejected the unity message that he was being asked to spread at the rnc and like he when he tried to be the unity guy his body like started shutting down and he got like all sleepy

you know and then he had to just like rip some fucking the late great hannibal lecter shit who's sleepy now sleepy now you old fuck there's another interaction when, like, right after they announced, like, one of their first appearances together of Trump and J.D. Vance. And if you look, J.D. Vance just has this, like, intense sycophant energy that I know Trump likes someone that comes off a little bit cooler. Yeah. You know what I mean? And this guy comes off as, like, number one. Like, again, this is another moment. You know what it's giving a little bit?

Hmm. Is Kenny Powers and Stevie Janowski. Oh, yeah. Yes. off as like number one like again you know you know what it's you know what it's giving a little bit is kenny powers and stevie janowski oh yeah yes oh kenny you're so fucking cool kenny like it really so watch this this he's like he's laughing at a trump joke here whatever i don't know but this is this is his vibe with uh trump did we have enough people why didn't we have enough people somebody said about the assassination attempt people A lot of people will put on Biden's detail. The problem is Biden doesn't draw anybody. He draws flies. He draws nobody. And, you know, you don't need very many people for that because he does not draw 30 people show up and we have 55, 60,000 people show up. He's just quietly laughing like a podcast producer can't laugh out loud but this is great i want to let him know that they're killing

no it is like though it's like when there's a kid who's a class clown and he's got like a second in command yeah yeah you know my friend everyone hates that kid though everyone's like bro you're just like his fucking hanger arm dude and my friend called it there would be like a kid who's like the yo kid who's like when someone says yo like yo oh yeah he's yo yeah he's yo man mr yo yeah holy shit spot on and he switch his pick would that be unprecedented like if trump switched his pick at this point because i feel like he's gonna want to a lot of things are happening that are unprecedented especially if he can't kamala picks an astronaut as her vp pick who's the astronaut mark kelly mark kelly from arizona guy like I feel like that's if she picks

Mark Kelly, he's going to be so jealous. Yeah, he's going to want to go to speed. Fucking astronaut! She got an astronaut! You see the size of that guy's arms? He's like, you drink diet Mountain Dew? Okay. He just goes away

bummed out in his room. While all that's happening you know and and janie vance you know for a second thought kamala harris was going to be the person he was having to do battle with that's still unknown but the gop is still they're they're really trying to figure out how to come at kamala like what their line of attack is obviously predictably reflexively they are just going with uh their hatred of black women to like power a lot of their talking points and it's become pretty fucking out there and also i mean we probably said this in an earlier episode but now it seems like she has the delegates needed

uh to secure the nomination so yeah perhaps we're avoiding they're going with something that's kind she's too hot. Yeah, right? Like, what? Huh? She thinks she's so cool. Yeah, she thinks she's so cool. Right, guys? She's, like, kind of weird, if you think about it. She's, like, weird.

Like, honestly, also, she is super weird. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hard. That's why it's funny, too. Even that thing that, like, would you just fall out of the coconut tree? That became popular because the Republican Party clipped that out and tried to use that to be like, this is not like, look at this fool.

And basically gave birth to a new meme that's, like, partially powering this new campaign. You know what? Maybe we need a kooky bitch for president. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. That's what, like, their attempt to smear her has turned her into is like fun, kooky energy. Yeah. And memes are important these days in elections for a lot of people who are just like going

off vibes. They're like, oh, she's hot and childless. Yeah. And they can't talk about any of the things that are actually wrong with her because they, you know, they can't be like, oh, she's. Because they're wrong with them too. Yeah. she's locking people up indiscriminately as attorney general they're like well hmm i agree with that kind of but yeah anyway they're they're now like just full-on scrambling to try and figure out like what is actually going to stick in terms of

like their attacks he said what did he say trump said something and it it didn't stick at all and everybody was like he's losing the juice. Was it the thing about his poll numbers? P-O-L-E? No, he was like, he called her something, but it was like, it wasn't like kooky Kamala, but it was like something like that where everybody was like, man, usually he's got it with the nicknames, but like he's loose. He's not laughing. Kamala. That's right. Oh, that's why. Kamala. Oh, no. Laughing.

Kamala is here, everyone. That makes her sound like she's in like a folk tale. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, yeah, the woman with the best attitude. Laughing Kamala. Bring brought joy to all those around her. But yeah, like right now, initially they were like, Oh, we love

that. It's Kamala Harris because we can just tie her to all of the failures of the Biden administration and all that's going to stick, but they are still having trouble. Like, like when they say it out loud, for whatever reason, they just don't know, like, like it just doesn't feel right even to them. So the, um, NRSC who like helps run Senate, like Senate campaigns for the Republicans, they distributed talking points of how to hit her. One's like, she supports Hamas. Another one's like, she tried to ban fracking. She's the border czar. And you're like, what the fuck?

Then there's this one section at the bottom called, there's one that's called crime health care foreign policy the last section is called weird yeah and these are some of the things that they're like and you could hit her on this this is the weird stuff that they feel like they can attack her with kamala harris has a habit of laughing at inappropriate moments kamala harris pledged to ban plastic straws kamala favor is in favor of banning certain behaviors okay uh kamala harris loves venn diagrams kamala harris loves electric school buses because she went to school on a school bus what the fuck does that one even mean like these are all linked off to something so i'm sure it's like just a statement made i think she's talking about yeah probably saying like yeah you know when i was riding the school bus.

Oh, my God. She rode a school bus? There's just like cherry picking like weird statements by her and being like, this woman's weird. Yeah. Rather than like what you'd say about Donald Trump. You're like, bruh, this is, you like Venn diagram? What about the other one? This fool loves his daughter in an inappropriate way.

That's weird. You want to go on to fucking Trump's weird section? They keep being like, she doesn't have any naturally birthed children of her own. She's only got this blended family. Right. Yeah. It's very 80s, honestly.

I think it's like that sort of Trump, I guess, to be like, she's a career woman. She's being working girl at the office and she doesn't come home and make meals for her children or her cat. That's right. It's wild how hard it seems like they are totally taken off guard by this and they really doubled down on biden being old which makes sense because he was way too old i mean look the democrats were not looking like they were gonna get it together in any way right it seemed really chaotic behind the scenes and and like the democrats weren't even going to be able to agree on absolutely whether biden should drop out who

should replace him if he does. And so the fact that they got it together this fast, Trump was tweeting like a bitch. He was. He was tweeting like a bitch. You could tell that they were like, it's in the bag. This is also like when he got shot at and everybody was like, oh, it's over. It's over. It's in the bag for trump now and i was just like the news cycle is so fast now yeah so many more things can happen like it's like a checker speech every day now yeah yeah and like every and everybody on tv

these days has been shot at on some level. It changes so fast. The CNN people were like, okay, Biden's losing. The Republicans... I hate the way that they do declare consensus on CNN or something where it's like all the pundits are suddenly like, well,

Trump's going to win. Based on what? Based on that they feel like they have to have a consensus so that they can all repeat the same message. Stay on message for some reason. Things change so fast every single day. But now Trump is the oldest official nominee in the history. Like after that was kind of their only and main angle, he is the oldest official nominee in the history. Like after that was kind of their only and main angle,

he is the oldest official nominee in the history. Yeah. They were like all, they put all their eggs in the old white. It's a, he's an old white man out of touch basket. Yeah. And now everyone's like,

you're an old white man. And he's like, he's seeming older. Like recently, his speech was very like old and doggling. His stuff wasn't good before, but that's what was crazy is after he got shot at and everybody was like, oh, he's a changed man. Now he's like, you know, now he's going to become like, like step up into the presidency, step up to the plate. And then it's like, no, he was rambling and sounding crazy before.

It's just that Joe Biden was rambling more. Right. And sounding more senile than he did. Yeah. Now he sounds senile compared to Kamala. Yeah. And, you know, just like the optics thing where they're like, I think they really thought next to Biden, Trump looks like a virile young man. Yeah.

Which is clearly how Trump sees himself in his mind. Yeah. That's what the cult mentality does to them, though. You know what I mean? They're like, this guy's impervious to anything. And then they're like, oh my God, he is old. What the fuck? That's not fair.

We don't like this juxtaposition. The thing he put out on Truth Social the other night, he said, lying Kamala Harris, the Biden the biden appointed borders are who never visited the border and whose incompetence gave us the worst and most dangerous border anywhere in the world that's so okay that is so patently false but okay um has absolutely terrible poll p-o-l-e numbers against a fine and brilliant young man named Donald J. Trump. Be careful what you wish for, Democrats. Brilliant young man. Yeah.

That is such high-level cope that I'm like, yo, you never want to be an old person out here referring to yourself as a young man. You're not even a middle-aged man. It's just like such an old man joke to make yeah like it's it reminds me of like reagan on his last legs being like oh well i'm i won't let my opponent's young age be held against him and then it's like the last coherent thing he said look I think some of those guys too it's like they got gassed up so much when they were young men that they think it just

carries forward for your entire life they're just like I'm a young buck I'm a young buck nobody wants me to win because I'm too young and hot but also like we all know Trump gets flustered around a hot woman. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So I do imagine, I feel like Kamala makes him be like Rodney Dangerfield, like, he's hot under the collar. He doesn't know which one to lean into, his womanizing or his racism around her. He's like right which button do i press i don't know yeah it's uh tough times somebody some republican already called her like a jezebel which is like both racist and sexist yeah yeah no i mean that's that's the thing that

like you know i i get the enthusiasm of it not being joe biden anymore because clearly just seeing someone who can like move their body in like a spry manner, you're like, oh, my God, I love this. But I'm just it's the it's the it's the culture of our electorate that I'm I'm just not sure what happens, you know, like even even if the Democrats are saying like we have to be Trump, we have to be Trump. It's just like the racism of it all, too, that I'm not that's like the one thing i'm like i don't know man like i just also like i see how terrible this country is never count out the democrats on biffing it yeah totally right on biffing something that seems like a foregone win yeah but i don't know all the headlines right now are very pro, like, exactly what the narrative right now, you know.

And the media does thrive on, like, creating a consensus narrative that they can then upend in the next news cycle. But the narrative right now is, like, went from yesterday, like, shock poll, Harris closes in on Biden, to right now, shock poll, Harris leads Trump. And it's... I don't trust a damn poll also. I only trust a P-O-L-E poll. That's the only poll I trust. This one is also a shock poll.

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We're back, by the way. We talked about the J.D. Vance thing on yesterday's Trending. If you want to hear more speculation about the couch. We have to restrain ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. We have to cut ourselves off. You know the saying, no glove, no love, as J.D. Vance says.

If that was true, that J.D. Vance had sex with a couch, that would be one of the most likable things about him. That's what I've been saying. If he did that and then wrote it in his memoir, in his coming-of-age memoir, I would be like, oh, maybe he actually told the truth in this memoir. Maybe there's a core of something interesting. Yeah, exactly.

That's relatable. Yeah, we all did fucking you think come on i mean we're all acting like we've never fucked a couch come on come on i mean i'm definitely not acting like that my last fiance was a deck chair you know i mean i'm serious though that'll make it more more human i mean the guys have a dark money you know trojan horse absolute 100 fucking nazi i mean there's no way around it you can picture him and he said he loved us chris he said i love you guys oh that thing where he did on the joke where he made that joke about diet yeah like he doesn't

even know what he's fucking talking about yeah that's what i mean he's out of his fucking mind he doesn't even know how to talk to the world or anything he's so used to talking to peter teal or whoever like dark money people, who he just goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he goes out in public and he's like, I drank Mountain Dew and everybody thinks I'm racist. What? I don't know.

Was it maybe all the racist shit that you say? Nah, it's probably the Mountain Dew. No, I don't know. I don't know. Get me back indoors. Take me off the ship. It's good. I love you guys. Anyway. So where were we? So yeah, I hope he know. Get me back indoors. Take me off the set. It's good. I love you guys.

Anyway. So where were we? So yeah, I hope he fucked a couch. Yeah, me too. That's our only hope. Yeah. You're our only hope. Somewhere in there.

Yeah. There's still a couch fucker, a passionate man. All right. So I want to talk about how Kamala Harris's nomination, her run, is being covered in the mainstream media, specifically a series of headlines that are kind of disparaging the idea of a black woman running for president. But since they put a question mark at the end of the headline, it's OK. Seems to be the logic in Newsweek. Is America ready for a black woman president? Unbelievable.

The conversation, race, gender, and politics. Is the United States ready for a black woman president? USA Today. And they didn't manage to put it into a colorful pie chart, but they said, is the U.S. ready for a black woman president? Why a leading congressman isn't sure. You know, she's also half South Asian. Right. But it's so funny to see Democrats also push that

because they're trying to really pitch her as this person, too, when she's biracial, which is very interesting to see also. But yeah, are they ready for this black woman i mean i i see i understand like questioning that but that has to be more of an investigation into the white supremacy that like presides over the entirety of american thinking versus like this which is like i don't know like a black lady it's like what this is like what these headlines feel like rather than maybe something a bit deeper oh yeah yeah i think i i can't believe it because those headlines are really just saying

like i mean they're really putting a question mark on it but yeah we're not ready for a black president we don't i mean that's like i mean those headlines are just like you don't really want a black president do you that's all it is and and and it's insanity that we talk about race as much as we do in this country i mean it's just so sad it's so sad that that is like even in why does that enter into everything i mean i know why but you know what i mean it's like who gives a shit you know we you know what unfortunately too many people do you know especially when you're coming off end with i just unbelievable yeah the the idea of the president being an old white guy is very deeply rooted in how america thinks about the job both on the right and on the left and a big part of that i don't know i don't know if we

can say the problem is caused by or if it's reflected by, but, you know, Hollywood liberalism certainly is in lockstep with this trend. The Washington Post in 2020 published a report finding that the vast majority of mainstream movies have portrayed the president as a straight cis white male, which that's obviously been the case in real life as well. But literally anything can happen in a movie but you know one of these movies that made the president a straight white cis male had aliens being taken out by a floppy disk you know like literally a floppy disk that they uploaded on somehow the fucking alien ship had a slot for a floppy disk. But in examining 148 presidential depictions in movies since 1932, they found that 123 out of 148 movie character presidents were white men,

and they found precisely zero examples of women of color playing fictional presidents. That's fucking bonkers like of the 25 characters who didn't fall into the like straight white guy category 16 were people of color 13 were black two were hispanic one was asian the remaining nine characters were white women and there were yeah no women of color playing fictional presidents but Yeah, I mean, it's a reflect. I can't say this is caused by Hollywood. I mean, this is the momentum of American culture is to box people out that aren't white cis men

in terms of who can actually lead. Obviously, other people are able to rise to those heights. But yeah, I think maybe what it does, though, too, is it reinforces this sort of cultural race racist momentum that we have by always being like yeah i mean like it's probably a white guy right like that's what that's what the president has to be so we can feel okay about it and if it's a black guy as a president means the world is ending in a movie or there's a disaster happening yeah like deep impact or danny glover in 2012 or jam Foxx and White House Down. Like those are the types of movies where the president is allowed to be black or 24, you know, where there's a different terrorist attack every like 25 minutes.

Voting and in movies, the idea of a woman president seems to cause some problems for people. The first movie to introduce this idea was 1965's Kisses for My President. Oh, my God. What movie is that? It's called Kisses for My President. The poster has a woman president answering the phone at, you know, the desk in the Oval Office and the her husband standing next to her in a hat that has like flowers all over it for some reason. Yeah. Well, he's like wearing like a like a like what a first lady would wear. Like it's the inverse, you know?

Yeah. On his head. And then he has a suit on. When a woman becomes president of the U.S., what happens to her poor husband when he becomes the first lady? That's one of my favorite movies. I don't know why you guys are laughing. You're like, yeah, yeah. No, but where are you going to get to the weird part? You're talking about Kisses from My President.

Such a good movie. movie so it tries to mine laughter from the idea of a guy becoming the first lady and concludes with a happy ending in which the president resigns because she gets pregnant oh my god wow that's like fucking 1965 that's like that fucking ali g shit where he would say aren't you worried like if hillary clinton becomes president that she's going to fall in love with Saddam Hussein. Yeah. Right. And literally. Oh, my God. Those interviews he did. Exactly.

Those interviews he did as Ali G. Those early ones. Yeah. Oh, my God. Those early ones were interviews like Henry Kissinger. Shit is so fucking good. Yeah. But yeah, that whole thing is like there are the people who control everything, sadly, are just a bunch of graduates from Harvard and Yale, mostly lawyers.

They have these secret clubs and they're all white men, you know. And so it is it's reflecting just that. I mean, this for me was like a moment. Maybe a lot of people knew about it, but I mean, it was on CNN. So a lot of people knew about it, but it was right after they were starting to call for Joe Biden to resign, which I was down with. Like, I understood the idea, certainly. After that debate, it made sense to me. That debate was like I had to turn it off.

You know, it was like when he said he beat Medicare, I was like, okay, we're fucked. You know, like, what? I mean, you know, and I love Trump goes, yeah, you beat Medicare. You beat the hell out of it, whatever that means. You know what I mean? Right. But that moment, I was like, okay, this is a problem. But I did not like, well, I don't think anyone liked George Clooney weighing in, a white male.

And this was a panel on CNN about this decision, and I just did not like the tone of these insiders. Forget about Carville, he's always a fucking dick. But he's a guy what is his fucking qualification why do they always put that white man who's just incredibly not thoughtful obviously no um you know and they constantly put him on because they're just like here's our rolodex of people that we have to comment on this shit and And it's all white dudes who went to Yale and went to Harvard. It's the same club. And, you know, like some white guy just says, hey, guess what? Whole country. We're swapping out the president because me and Larry Summers and whoever the fuck else

and John Podesta or whatever decided he's got to go. Jeffrey Katzenberg, yeah. But it's also interesting to see like how the media has gone from like before they're like, don't you talk shit about Joe Biden? Like, is there a lot of pundits to who like were like, it's going to be him. Maybe they're going to have a virtual roll call to like solidify the nomination and and really telling people that we're like, I don't like, is this the best we can do? Like, do we need to consider other things? And then suddenly like, oh, my God, we love Kamala.

This is the greatest thing that has ever happened. And you're like, what? Yeah. Last week it was this and now it's this and i get that the the enthusiasm changes in your reporting on that but it's interesting to see how quickly like the punditry goes from you know one one extreme to the other like no it's on the public response and yeah right okay we're on board with this and always were it turns out yeah right and it turns out like i mean well if it was an honest discussion which cable news is useless for any any you know thing that's funded by advertising is is is completely you know and often often these outlets are out what outright owned by billionaires

they just will not talk about when one party has got jdance, who's part of a secret society of Roman Catholics who thinks fucking liberals are demons that need to be basically killed. You know, that's what they're pitching on that far right religious stuff, that there's this the devil is real and it's liberals. So, like, when you've got one side doing that. You know, it's still we'll vote for whatever. That's the discussion. You don't you know, the fact that it's even like, yeah, I don't care if it's Biden. I don't care. I'll vote for Biden because the other you know, I just I just felt like the discussion was like, yes, like either way, we're voting against authoritarianism. Right. You know what I mean? Right. David Axelrod. This is not time for you to show off. Why are you showing off? Why are you on here with an attitude this is not a time for attitude you dope yeah i mean you need to have attitude with one person joe biden maybe like talk to him with attitude but yeah maybe and joe biden he was like he wasn't trying to hear that

he doesn't know i'm just kidding he doesn't know he doesn't know he wouldn't know what he was saying you have to drop out of the race what race it? It really, it was, it was the debate and also the like five to 10 subsequent interviews and appearances where it was just like, wow. What? Yeah. It was really bad. I was just like, he was too old to begin with. I knew it all along.

Yeah. But I think, but people like David Axelrod, like they, it's easier to get mad at Joe Biden than themselves, who are the people who put like you know reinforced this re-election campaign yeah yeah i tried to just like force it through because there was there was no real primary you know what i mean like they really they were like bro don't even fucking try and step to the fucking incumbent and i get that that's not a great look usually but when that given the age and what he said about it being a bridge to like a new generation you'd kind of be like voters were clearly down for someone even before he announced that he was uh going for re-election so like when i see those people be like you know joe really

needs to step aside it's like dude you were the people telling before telling people not to worry shut the fuck up joe biden is fine and now you're switching it up to be like he's gotta go it's like well dude you were you were the fucking person propping this up so don't act don't act new that's what i think so too about david axelrod it was like what you weren't aware like everybody else was that this guy was old until like now all of a sudden it's an emergency it was an emergency the whole time then you above everybody else knew you know this seems like we suspected but you knew yeah you're supposed to be the democrat You're supposed to be the good guys.

And this is this is what you're you're you're trying to, like, make everybody feel like insane because everybody knew this. We just accepted it because we were told we had to. Right. You know, we just aren't voting for fucking Trump. People get it. Stop. We're not idiots. That's the other thing is like they just think these people think that the general public the whole general public everybody is a

god damn idiot yeah yeah and it's not fucking true it is not true at all everyone i talked to who's you know cartoonishly what you would assume is you know whatever i'm not even it doesn't matter but i but when i did those like man on the street reports and talk to people like at bus stops and shit and like it's just like every person who's down and out that you figure oh that person's down and out because they're dumb no they're not down and out because they're dumb they're smart they're just down and out yeah anyway they're unlucky we live in a fucking like lottery system we live we live in a fucking real world open air casino i actually i should be fair to axelrod because he was a little bit more consistent with

saying Biden shouldn't run. That was at the end of last year. Again, I guess the Axelrod aside of it, there are many people that were part of the establishment. Miles, are you friends with David Axelrod? Are you friends with David Axelrod? I heard Axelrod fucked a couch.

I don't know. He's my father-in-law. That's what I was picking up. That's what I was picking up. That's what I was picking up. I was picking up a little, don't be so mean to David Axelrod. To be fair to Daddy, I mean, Mr. Axelrod. David. He likes to be called

David, actually. I do just want to, just something you said, Chris, that, like, yes, this idea of there's a lot of, like, tropes you grow up thinking are true because you see them in movies and you know one of them that like other people are stupid or that the vast majority of people are stupid turns out not to be true like the more you learn about the world the more you're like no they're just like a lot a lot of people that get written off are just

people the more you read and learn about the world the more it becomes clear that the one like theory that you always see when in movies and when you're a kid that there is a small group of white guys who make all the decisions together and freeze everyone else out that one is like it seems like the most far-fetched that's the one that's the one that we've been right about all along like the wealthiest one percent of the global population it was just reported accumulated 42 trillion dollars in the past 10 years. Like, they're getting so much richer, so much faster. Like, in the 10 years since we started talking about the 1% being a problem, they've gotten so much richer, so much faster. That's why it's hard to get out of bed in the morning.

I mean, honestly, it's like, you know, it seems overwhelming. Right. But I just, like, made's like, you know, it seems overwhelming. Right. But I just like made a deal with myself. It's crazy. I just made a deal with myself. Oh, good. I can't wait to hear about this. I'm just going to be quiet.

What'd you make? But no, I just think that like I made, you know, I really have been feeling lately, you know, really like, especially because I write the column and I do podcasts and stuff. I was just on Zach Bendis' podcast, Grinding to a Halt, the other day, which was really fun. I don't know, I just thought of that when I was talking to Zach. And yeah, but, you know, I think about these things a lot and I don't know how to, I'm realizing that I'm not changing it. I'm not changing. I'm not going to change it. I can't change what that cabal of white men are going to do with the candidates. But I can like stay alive and not despair because somehow I can be of help. I know it. And I don't know how it looks, but I will remain, you know, and I think about all

the all the other countries that have had all these horrible things happen. Fucking Palestine, you know, just like those people are still getting up in the fucking morning and trying to live a life. And it is absolutely horrible what people have to go through. And I, you know, I just am trying to remember that. I guess the deal with myself is that I'm going to try and keep showing up, even though I'm not sure how to how to help. I guess that's the point. But I know that waking up helps if you're if you're not a bad person. Yeah, you can be present.

Just being present on the damn earth as a good person is is inspiring to other people who will then hang around, too. We all just have to hang around for each other and be like, oh, well, that's guys. We're all still here. So I guess we need to stay. You know, I mean, just like there's something about just and that was my under overrated was just going to be that saying of putting on the oxygen mask on yourself like before oh yeah like you gotta do you gotta do the thing you gotta put it on the child afterward because i feel like everybody's like i don't think you put it on the child at all i feel like

that's the thing i was putting the oxygen mask on themselves and that's it. There's a second part to that. Right, right. Anyway. But that's what I do think that that's it. Like, I mean, I'm not sure. This is all like a crazy situation, you know. And, you know, I just want to keep showing up, which is also some modified

slogan for some other organization I can't think of. Keep showing up. Something like that. And just doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show.

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