The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 338 (Best of 9/9/24-9/13/24)

Episode Date: September 15, 2024

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I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just

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podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.

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iHeartTrue Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Miles. Yeah. We are thrilled to be joined once again in our third seat by a writer, one of the best podcast hosts and EPs doing it. You know him from Stuff They Don't Want You To Know, Ridiculous History, a new series

Missing in Arizona. Please welcome back to the show. It's Ben Bowen! Bowen! Yes, bowen yes yes yes yes feels so good to be back a little bit off kilter here i was coming in at an 8.3 out of 10 i thought i had a good aka i was gonna go with soup god because i thought that was like a nice thing yeah i thought it was a cool but then i got i got soup cucked no and i made you watch me do it yeah that's aka it's all slow down soup oh shit i was gonna do a soup based aka are you

what's your favorite soup ben for the record because we are pro soup on this show despite what jesse waters has to say i only agree hear about eight out of ten things he says most of the time but yeah yeah no i've heard it i've heard it uh yeah i i gotta be honest i i like a pho i'm a sucker for being a dirtbag too i'm a sucker for uh that that canned dentimore beef stew whoa wow you really fuck with fucking legend yo whenever i see that i'm like yo this is for somebody who's like a civil war reenactor to you but you're you really every time i see that label it's like hunt because it's so it's i feel like that label has not changed in decades that whatever i see and i'm like that has to be the same can i saw when i was like 10 years old yeah that's the thing the secret to dentimore beef stew is it never goes bad because it never starts off good you know what i mean because it never was beef stew it's not i mean

yeah it's weird that they don't have air quotes around yeah yeah yeah but uh but yeah maybe it's nostalgia but i'll tell you loving if love it. If I actually made some, I, I make a lot of like soup with the leftovers. Cause I'm too cheap to throw stuff out. If it is, if it's on the way in salt water and make a soup, baby.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But man, I was listening to the recent episode with some strong opinions about soup. That's kind of been an ongoing theme. And now in honor of you guys and Blake and, and your buddy from earlier,

I'm not drinking with a straw. Okay, good. My buddy from earlier being Jesse waters. Yeah. Your little friend. Yeah. Your boy.

Yo, come get your boy. Jesse waters. What? Whose man is this? Yeah. I do want to. so on the last episode we talked about how jesse waters says it's not manly to eat soup because you purse your lips when you blow on it not the way and i know not the way that i do miles pointed out that i just

pour it onto a plate and then right yep slide it back and burn myself with it. Like a real man. Denty Moore style. Yeah. But I was talking about how my mother-in-law, who is now living with us, as well as my father-in-law, and it's been wonderful. But she's always complimented me for liking soup. But the other day was like, because it's very rare for a man to like soup. Yeah. Did you get to the bottom of that?

So, I mentioned it. She was like, oh yeah, I saw it on the gram. Nice. She was like, I saw you. Why don't you keep my name out of your mouth? No, she was very touched that we were talking about that. And she hit me over the weekend.

Jack, Korean proverb. A man who likes soup will get a fortune and blessings from his wife. So, whoa. Okay. That's pretty good news. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so for her, it's just like, oh, you a good man.

You a good soup eating man. Yeah, you're a good basic ass soup eating man. You're a family. You're a family dude. I think the way it started is that it's like easy to make. And so like by taking the pressure off and just letting her put a soup on and let it boil and, you know. It's so gender normative. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

The husband who cares not how much his wife hath toiled in kitchen shall receive blessings from her. And really, this is why I'm a fucking hero. I've been saying it for a long time. Yeah, yeah. Everybody, you know. She's so lucky. My beautiful, brilliant wife is so lucky to have me because I like soup. I would also, not to get too

conspiratorial, but is it possible that your mother-in-law may have manufactured a Korean proverb just to give you a win? Oh, wow. She just sees me sadly eating soup and she's like, this guy needs a fucking win.

The way you eat soup is really good and then like it's so she's it's so sad that like i the the compliment she gives me make completely made up i talk about it on my podcast so sad yeah that's entirely possible sometimes Sometimes your boy needs a win. And I'm not talking about Jesse Waters. Zara, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Okay, I asked my search history, if one piece of cheese in a pack of sliced mozzarella cheeses has mold on it, does that make them all bad? Great question that has come up in my mind many times and that I have never, I've never bothered to Google it. I will tell you that much. Uh, I, depending on how much I want the cheese, I will either throw the one piece away or throw the whole thing away. Um, but it's totally dependent on like how bad I need cheese in that moment. I know.

I was going to say it's dependent on like how much money is in your bank account at that moment. Yes. Yeah. It's like, if you're able to throw a whole pack of cheese away, it's like, you don't care about your bank account,

your neighbor's bank accounts. No one cares. But like, if you're like, Oh, your neighbor's bank accounts. No one cares. Yes. But like if you're like, oh, I can just eat around it on this slice. Like I can just cut out the bad part of this slice. Then you're like, you're down bad. I'm so sorry. So you're taking just the mold off the one slice.

Yeah. I mean, if it gets to that point, you know what I mean? I mean, smell test, obviously. Right. We're using the smell test. If all the cheese smell bad we're probably victor's asking if they're individually wrapped and i'm sorry victor that's a different tax bracket than what we're talking about if your cheese is individually wrapped about craft singles victor so now i understand what

craft we're talking about if it's, it's melting together into one big stack. Right. I mean, typically I do the partner test where I give it to my husband and watch him eat it and just stare at him for a while. Just put him under a round-the-clock observation for a couple minutes.

I feel like that's what husbands are for. My dad would always eat the leftover bad stuff. Growing up, we'd be like, I don't want it. I don't want it, mom. And he'd be like, okay, give it to me. Yeah. Fine.

But it's for my baby, so I had to be like super cautious. Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah, no, we can take it. We can take a little bit of bad food. I will say I have been told that, especially for like bread, the spores spread and you should toss it yeah but i'm also a big fan of like eating questionable stuff and then wondering if i have ibs for the rest of my life so i'm a huge fan of that then you have

something to blame your ibs on besides just your anxiety i'm a hot girl and that's why i have ibs and not because i just like don't pay attention to the mold in my brain that's right i like that we just rushed past like did google have a satisfying answer of oh yeah on this question it it actually said everything that you guys just said it said you can either discard the moldy slice it was enough thanks google right i didn't know my two options yeah okay i wasted gallons of water you're throwing away gallons of water to figure out if you should throw away a slice of cheese you definitely don't need to throw away crafts like if one gets moldy you don't have to throw away the rest we We're not talking about Kraft singles here. We're talking about Whole Foods organic.

Kraft singles. Oh, OK. Sorry. Sorry. It's the only cheese I'm aware of. You're like, I don't understand. What's other cheese? What is something you think is underrated, Allison?

I think I think hats as a show of femininity is underrated oh i think femmes wearing hats is underrated why did i immediately go to like church lady hats because i feel like that is very a vibe yeah yeah yeah no i mean like like i have like bucket like these not buckets but just like like a camp cap yeah yeah what do you call that just in a six panel a five panel anyway we call that a camp hat i think yeah yeah yeah wait so what about uh what about the trend of like big brown felt hats that uh that wasn't a trend that wasn't a big brown felt hats i don't even know what that is no no no no not like the pharrell Vivian Westwood gigantic hat.

But like, you know how like you see those like pumpkin spice latte type fall white women photos. And everybody got like the big felt brown, like, you know, the big brown brimmed hat. Yeah, it's not quite a cowboy hat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. East Coast Christian. Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, exactly. Baseball hats? They're dope. Would you ever wear it backwards?

Yeah. But I like to wear hats on. You really had to consider it. How far are we going? Whoa, I've never thought about that before. The lesbian in me was like, it's not practical to wear it backwards because then how am I getting the shade? You know?

That's not what the function is. But yeah, I would wear it backwards because then how am I getting the shade? You know? That's not what the function is. But yeah, I would wear it backwards. Okay. Alright. Just for the record. Just want to get everything on the record. Stop trying to hetero her, Miles. Get out of here. Stop trying to... Get the fuck out of here.

Would you rock it like this? To the side? Would you fresh prince it? He's like, I'm gay, but I'm not gay. I'm not gay, yo. I'm gay, but I'm not 90s derogatory gay. Yeah, thank you. That's fucking gay, Miles.

90s derogatory gay. What, McLeet, is something that you think is overrated? Matching socks. Nobody sees them. Yes. You don overrated? Matching socks. Nobody sees them. You don't have to match your socks. It's all good. Just pick any sock from the sock drawer and go on with your day. I like it.

I never match. I never match my socks. How different are we talking? Like different colors, just different, different genres of socks. Like do you have one dress sock, one sweat sock

sure yeah but what you don't match is like or what you like even if the colors and styles don't match the the lengths have to match so it'll annoy me if it's like one really short sock and one longer sock so i have to match the lengths but that's it there's still something there's still something you're not in full chaos well yeah I was thinking of like an ankle sock and like a big dress sock

that might be tough I did that the other day and I gotta tell you it made me so uncomfortable you did that? to have it unmatched and genuinely because so many such a high percentage of my socks are just costco socks so it was medium gray and light gray and i was like everyone can tell everybody knows everyone knows about the secret

shame happening under my shoe right now stupid i i understand i'm deeply stupid and you are correct but wow it really i could barely handle it the whole time. Just white knuckling it through my day. Like no one's looking at my ankles, right? So is your sock drawer, like are at the laundry stage, are you not even trying to match? Is it just like a salad of different individual socks? It's a salad. It's a salad.

It's a soup. Potpourri. It's all of the above. Yeah, no, no, there's nothing. Nothing's matched. There's no effort goes into matching any sock. That sounds liberating. Yeah.

This really will shave. This is a good life hack. This will shave so much time to save your grind. Yeah. Yeah, I have socks that like half of my children's sock drawer is just like unmatched socks that I've like kind of given up on. Those are so little, though. Children's socks are so small and I'm pretty sure they get sucked into. And I think I've said this before on the show and Miles was like what are you talking about you sound crazy man this idea that socks get like sucked into like

an intake in the washing machine but then i've had people like kind of back me up that that can happen that like there's especially small children's socks will just get inhaled by laundry machines there was this episode of the family guy that i saw probably like i don't know 20 years ago where the back of the laundry machine is narnia with like a half fawn half you know human creature taking single socks into the abyss and so anyway with the children socks and the really little ones i completely agree like there's just there's no way like i i buy socks like every other week because where did they all go so i don't match them for myself but i do match them for my child yeah well you're i i'm the opposite because i'm a narcissist and i don't care what they look

like my children are very sensitive about their socks they're like what uh they don't first of all they don't like to wear them if they're even like if they've been wearing them for like an hour and then come back in the house they want them off immediately because they're like, they're dirty now. Get them off of me. So very, the sock regimen has to be disciplined in my household with these little fuckers. No. How often have I said that under my belt? All right. Let's, uh, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll keep talking about the debate on Tuesday night. Is that already Tuesday? All right. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

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A type of conspiracy theory that has generally turned my brain into the off position, into the not listening mute position has been anything involving cryptozoology. The study of like mythical animals that people wish existed or like are really convinced exist, such as Sasquatch. I still remember there was a live episode of the Cracked podcast around

Halloween. We were doing like, tell us your spookiest story. And friend of the cracked podcast around halloween we were doing like tell us your spookiest story and friend of the show ryan singer who is a very funny comedian and also like into all manners of like trippy shit came on and he like had my ass he was telling me this story about like people disappearing in state parks and he was like plotting it out on maps and he was like you know telling the story and then he got to the like what was clearly the climax and i was like where is this going to go how do i not know about this and he was like and before the people disappeared everyone in the area reported smelling ammonia which is often associated with Bigfoots. And I was immediately like a fucking balloon deflating.

I was just like, come on. But then he talked about it. I kind of was on board, but it takes a lot for me to get the whole Sasquatch thing. But it's definitely like It's not going anywhere. There's a new indie film, Sasquatch Sunset, that's getting a lot of attention with Jesse Eisenberg and Riley Keough, who are indie darlings.

You know? Right. It's entered the culture from reality TV and mainstream silliness, like Harry and the Hendersons. But like now it's like getting into like the like this is hip and cool and interesting. And so I'm like, let's give it another look. Well, there's even today, right?

Like there's like news because some janky coin like making company has just launched the Bigfoot discovery coin. Like that's still a thing like today they're like yep launch it now on monday so on monday september 9th 2024 on over the weekend there was louisiana had their very first uh louisiana bigfoot festival because now it seems like rather than it being mostly like a northwestern phenomenon like it's we're seeing it in the bayou and in the southeast there's a swampy oh yeah and that's not just james carvel out there when he that's that's a real that's a real bigfoot and you know like expedition bigfoot had a new season just drop like this like in this last month it does not go away and i too like jack like because i see it a lot on like the internet even like on reddit there's always like some new

bigfoot thing i'm like come on y'all like really what come on what what is what what the why why where is the poop just thinking critically where is like for an animal that size or primate of that size, where is the poop? We know for a fact, just to back this up, we know for a fact cryptozoology often considered a pseudoscience, but part of the reason things considered cryptids do later enter into the scientific record is because Western scientists got stuff wrong and they rocked up, you know, just a stranger in town, like we said, and they said, Oh,

the silicate long thought to be extinct for millions of years. Look at it here in the heart of the jungle. And then I do appreciate you now speaking in your regular voice, stopping the charade of, uh, yeah, of being from our modern era and from America. I'm merely a British observer of your American Civil War. Quite a chaotic event. Oh, you're a British Civil War. Okay, got it.

You didn't find out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Small demographic. Those thrill seekers who came from England to be like, oh, I'm watching this. This is karma for them. Yo, they did used to watch it as a spectator sport. The Civil War.

They used to have sprit nicks and just watch the battlefield. So maybe mass media has saved us from some. Some darn shit. But yes, like the coelacanth is a great example, thought extinct by Western science. And then when it was quote unquote rediscovered, everybody living in that fucking area of the world was like, yeah, this is the ugly fish.

It's been here forever. It's just, we don't eat it. It doesn't taste good either. I don't know why you guys are making a big deal. Right. What are you calling it? The ceiling? The ceiling fan.

Ceiling fan. Ceiling fan. I did write ceiling fan in and I was like, what's he talking about? Ceiling fan fish? It's a code phrase. C-O-E-L. It's like coella. C-O-E-L-A-C-A-N-T-H.

And, you know, no judgment. It's just not the prettiest fish. Yeah, it's ugly as hell. Yeah, it looks like an old dog that's got, like, you know, skin tags and stuff. Yeah, it's been through it. But that's, like, the fish version. Like, oh, how old is this thing? Exactly.

And so that kind of stuff informs what people think about with cryptozoology. Like everybody, everybody wants to have some sort of encounter with the wild, right? Everybody wants to be Promethean. Like I found the thing that was rumored. question about why Bigfoot is so fascinating to people. It's really, we're talking about this ancient preoccupation that a lot of civilizations had with the idea of something that is almost, but not quite us. We don't know if human beings ever met an actual Gigantopithecus was the largest primate. It's like 10 feet tall weight over 500 pounds projected so it's maybe i don't know it's very controversial but it's like maybe possible that some version of humans ran into that that made the game a telephone but i would i would suggest to you guys that the reason people are so invested in this bigfoot thing is because it's one, a way to explain things, right? Two, it is tantalizing because the way that the argument is constructed, just like UFO

arguments, never really delivers, right? Or like, what's that show, The Oak Island Money Pit? Yeah, right. Like 5,000 seasons and they always found something that could be something. So I think the longer it doesn't deliver, the more strength and the more intrigue it gets because you never get a satisfying resolution. And so it just builds and builds. It's like a J.J. Abrams show, you know? Right.

So like I talked to extensively, talked to people who are in that community and they're very, for the most part, very kind, you know, and they're not, they're not getting mad at me if I ask what I feel are logical questions like, okay, if there's a primate this size and assuming it's a primate, right, then where if it is, if a good comp is like a gorilla, then where's the Bigfoot nest? Where do they sleep? Yeah. What's their territory? What's the range? What's streaming? Yeah. What are their subscriptions?

What are their Star Wars things? Right. Well, I like the Sasquatch sunset. I read like a brief plot synopsis and it feels like the Sasquatch in that film are like fairly, like they don't seem very advanced in their like reasoning, which I feel like any version of Bigfoot would have to be for it to have like stayed off grid this long, would have to have at least invented poop bags. Real slippery. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's a great point because also,

all right, so I did ask people about the poop, right? And admittedly, I was a little overly diplomatic about it. I was saying, well, you know, a lot of our listeners in the crowd tonight are probably going to wonder. And every time I asked this, I would get really good energy back. The people would say like one guy who started a museum here in L.A. J.

Georgia. Well, it doesn't matter. Just believe me, it's a real place. And I asked him about the poop and he said, yeah, that's a great question, Ben. Here's what I think. What if they're extra dimensional oh wow yeah immediately that's always where it goes also with aliens the goalposts yeah yeah they don't poop bro they poop in another dimension they do that in another dimension in a pocket poop dimension yeah

i love that just so quickly justively. They might be interdimensional. I always thought the reason why Americans had an obsession with Bigfoot was the decline of the white working class. Is there anything to that? I was reading this article about this guy who wrote a book. And apparently that comes up a lot. But in a way where people are like, what the fuck is this guy talking about? But in a way where people are like, what the fuck is this guy talking about? They're saying it's a lot of dudes who just sort of like yearn for the past and being out and camping and stuff like that.

But at the end of the day, it sounds like people who have enough money to go camping for long periods with infrared gear probably aren't the kind of working class people that they might be yearning for. That is interesting. they might be yearning for. That is interesting. It started in like the Pacific Northwest around the same time that like grunge was being created because of the like collapse of the middle class there. And now it's like moving down to the rust belt. There's, that's an interesting theory.

I don't know exactly how this author was not articulating it in that kind of way. It felt very like MAGA adjacent, like a commenter's like yeah because like white working men are just like the villain now that's why we like bigfoot you're like whoa okay it was more north i feel like it could have been maybe a little bit more nuanced but the take felt a little bit all over there is a sociological aspect right because for sure we're talking about communities of people who believe in or are somehow taken with a certain idea.

And it's interesting, too. You see it sometimes in recent UFO discourse, right? There is an underlying sociological factor. Like a lot of this stuff kind of trends to the right wing of the political spectrum. spectrum and so i i think there's a validity to the idea that people are looking back with the rose-colored glasses on maybe in america that didn't exist you know just sort of this rock polized version of days past and they're thinking yeah back then you could just go out in the wild you know just right can of soup and a dream see some wild animals or that like john muirish version of conservation or it's like don't let native people sully the view this is just for our white gaze to cast upon

untouched beauty and that's the old times we yearn for um yeah i'm you know i would love to see a big foot but they're the least of all the cryptids i think they're the least that's the least interesting yeah they're kind of like the vanilla ice cream i guess but yeah sure but the the the interesting thing here for anybody who is hoping you know like i i would assume like all of us uh hoping to one day see something cool how awesome would it be for a large animal to be discovered in our lifetime this is one of the moments in history where it's more likely than it has been at most times in the past just because human beings are encroaching so much in the places that human beings didn't used to go so so even you sound like a guy who's like starting off to like sell me on a big foot tour he's like but here's the thing if we were ever gonna see one the time is now because we're in now look yeah how much money you got

like 300 well that's exactly what my tour costs man you're in love that's wild let's load up yeah i mean i think so in doing additional research to the like state parks mystery the answer seems to be that state parks and just generally the world is much larger than people can possibly like realize and so people just wander off a trail and get way more lost than they thought possible in a really short amount of time because the state parks are just like endless and very untamed. And we as modern people are not used to that sort of thing. And so they just wander off and never find their way back. There's no federal, there's no single federal compilation,

like federal level agency counting disappearances, which means, yeah, it can be quite a few people year over year, but it also means since that kind of agency doesn't exist, there's no one counting the reappearances. The guy's like, oh, shit, I got kind of stoned. It was my first time camping. I'm two days late, but I'm back. Now it's just a disappearance. I had a hundred milligram edible at the trailhead and I was just actually asleep about 400 yards in. But I do think that's the that is one of the good arguments for how something like this could happen is how little of like how massive the world is. Yes.

And also how little of it we've actually officially like documented and explored right there's obviously uh the ocean there's like famous quotes about how little of the ocean is known and but i mean it's true of a lot of wilderness like we're wasn't the platypus thought to be a crypto a cryptid for a long time all right said with great affection you guys i love animals the platypus looks so fun not to be rude but i see it and i'm like you still don't believe it how the fuck did you get here buddy you know what i mean like yeah and i hacked this thing together yeah exactly i mean i think that's another part of it, too. A lot of times now that people live in increasingly in conurbations, we're not around the natural world. A lot of times we're less familiar with the other things living out there. So you're already in an unfamiliar situation. You hear a whoosh, whoosh, whoosh in the trees and then you hear some noise you've never heard before. And it's like, ah, ah, ah. some noise you've never heard before and it's like yeah then what you're not gonna know you're not gonna be like ah yes that's clearly that was me actually my bad i was taking a shit over there

i mean and also that is like when you think about the things that nature has invented that seem completely made up i guess that's the thing that fails to grab me about the sasquatch is like oh we have those right like we have big giant apes who can like speak in sign language like we have things that seem like they were made up by a child we have giant squid yes for long time, people were fascinated by that as like one of the main, you know, cryptids. And then once we discovered it was real, we were like, all right, fuck off. Moving on. I mean, think about how weird.

I mean, you're right. The natural world is full of all these crazy evolutionary mixtapes that attempt to solve problems of the past that may not be as applicable today. Like a giraffe, that's a very specific thing. A lot of insects and their relationship with plants. I feel like if you were looking at cryptid type biology, if you are frightened for some reason of the idea of a large undiscovered animal, you should be much more frightened of fungus because that stuff is, that stuff's amazing and scary. That's the HB Lovecraft stuff. No,

bro. You don't got to tell me, bro. I saw last of us. Right. Right. Cordyceps. I apologize if this feels like it's old hat,

but every time. So like, uh, what do you guys think about zoos? Do you think they're important for conservation? Do you think it's more like an animal jail? What's where, where are the spectrum? I think they're fun. And I won't admit that because I don't want people to yell at me. I think they're animal jails and I think animal jails are cool.

There we go. How about that? that so i'll stand on that um i mean i think as i got old i think the thing is like there's some like you know like san diego there's like way more space and like they're sort of safari area but like when i've been to like urban zoos like there's a zoo in zoo in Tokyo where like these fuckers look so sad. I'm like, yeah, this is not a zoo. This motherfucker is rotting in a concrete cell for for babies to just smear their hands all over the plexiglass and then move on like that. I definitely like. So in a way, I like that there is a place to observe animals but the way that it's done it's like uh yeah that is there is there a more humane way like a way that doesn't bum me

the fuck out like right just so on its face like when i go there i think you know i'm talking about i'm talking about the one in uh winnow park don't love it i was excited excited to go. And then I walked out thinking, yeah, it's a, it's a ruffle, but I bring up the zoo question because, you know, one of the great conspiracies about cryptids you run into, especially with the Bigfoot stuff is people saying insert cabal here is covering up the knowledge you know what what's the smithsonian doing with all the bones i assure you folks if the smithsonian had a ghost of a chance having a real thing uh like proof of a contemporaneous bigfoot it would be fucking all over the place with it you couldn't get away from it it would be like the it would tour the nation in the world they

would sequence the dna and try to make a bigfoot hell yeah her community and we would be some of the first people there yeah well i mean have you met someone who has like a specialized interest like that like an archaeology or zoology or something those people love to shit like their whole thing is wanting more people to be interested in what they do. They're not going to keep secrets. Yeah, they're not going to be like, just shut the fuck up about the thing that could really fucking bring a lot of interest. Just shut the fuck up, will you? They're not doing that shit.

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I hate her so much. A.K.A. Ray Gunn. I can't believe you're platforming someone so problematic. I love to platform breakdances. I didn't like a breakdance. I can't believe you're platforming someone so problematic. How dare you? I love to platform breakdances. I think it's a great option. I think she should take a walkabout.

Yeah, take a walkabout. Went to Uluru. I brokedanced all the way to Uluru. Wait, you're too good at that. I'm scared. It's like a big rock. I've never been to Australia, but I always hear people talk about Uluru. It's like a big rock or some shit.

Aussie Zeitgang't please correct me um but anyway the breakout star of the paris olympics ray gun the break dance star as we remember failed to score a single point in the breaking competition but she's currently the highest ranked break dancer in the world that's because uh she won the quote won the gold medal at the 2023 wdsf oceania championships um which got her it's like a regional so the wdsf is the world dance sport federation which is the governing body okay and was everyone else sick? Yeah. Was it just her and her husband? I mean, this story was always, like, odd. Because I remember at the time, people were like, how dare she? And other times I'm like, how dare them putting her up there?

Like, she seemed pretty out of sorts to be like. I didn't see it necessarily as nefarious of a plot in terms of just seeing how, you know, like like white people are able to fail upward quite easily uh but i didn't necessarily see her as like trying to be like and i'm representing break i mean she her life is terrible it sounds like now but all that to say she because she won like this qualifying competition she got a thousand ranking points and that's what secured her spot in paris but other qualifying events and the par Paris games themselves do not factor into these rankings, apparently. And that is by design so that athletes can focus solely on the Olympic qualification without stressing out over rankings. So basically what's happened was like within

because she won this qualifier within the last year and there weren't other measurable or ranked events that happened since then, even the people who won gold, they weren't in events that would actually count towards this ranking. So all that to say is this is only because of the timing of her last win. She just has more points on the board. That's all going to change in October. Did she do that intentionally? No, I think it's just the timing of the ranking. That's all going to change in October. Did she do that intentionally? No, I think it's just the timing of the ranking. That's just when that event was. No, but I mean, was she like, oh, now I'm going to go if I win.

Is that why she entered? Oh, no, no, no, no. Do we know what Alison Stoner thinks of all this? Oh, my goodness. Yeah, yeah. I remember from the Missy Elliott videos. Yeah. Yeah.

Or like, what was it? You got served? That series of movies? She was in those too, right? Was she in one of the later ones, maybe? Yeah. She was in some dance movies. Oh, she was in Step Up.

She was in the Step Up movies. That's what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's You Got Served? Yeah. There was like a whole time of like dance. Yeah, yeah. I watched all of them.

All the step ups? I watched all the dance because I used to dance. And I was like a whole time of like dance. Yeah, yeah. I watched all of them. All the step ups? I watched all the dance because I used to dance. And I was like. Did you ever get Darren's dance grooves? I did not get Darren's dance grooves. That fucking took me back. My sister loved like NSYNC and Backstreet Boys and like knew all the dances and stuff. And she's the oldest.

So like the rest of us kind of like fell in line behind her. Yeah. My brother got Darren's dance grooves and he was the choreographer for all of those like big pop. Yeah. Like bye bye bye. I remember that was like the way they were selling it. They're like, you want to be able to do the bye bye bye choreography? Well, get check out Darren's dance grooves.

VHS. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway um but anyway so like again it's just the it's like it's merely like that's why like this the organization's coming out they're like look it's just because these other people's qualifiers it's been over a year so those points don't count the clock is going to reset come october when we have another official event but you know you know, we'll see. Who knows? She might come out with some new moves. You know what I mean?

She might do push-ups up there or something. Is she, like, actually a bad dancer? You were saying she's a performance artist. And I keep hearing different things. No, I say that flippantly. Okay. That she is a performance. I'm sorry.

My deadpan sometimes sounds like I'm being serious. But, no, she's just like a professor. She's just like bad at it. She's an academic. I'm sorry. My deadpan sometimes sounds like I'm being serious, but no, she, she's just like a, she's like a, she's just like bad. She's an academic. Like she studied it. Like, yeah,

she was like some sort of like professor or something. And she's like 36. And she, she like has studied it academically, but she's a lecture in the department of media communications, creative arts, language, and literature at Jesus McQuarrie University, a faculty of arts.

See, and smart people can be dumb. So that gives me hope. I don't know what that means. It's like anybody. Look, if smart people can be dumb, as a dumb person, I can be smart. Exactly. You see? Okay okay loopholes i was gonna say i'm so silly um i was gonna say like her her husband was like her coach or something right yeah or there was some like he also breakdances and i saw like a super clip of

him breakdancing and they were like uh they played is somebody gonna match my freak over it and he was just also awful oh no like maybe it was i don't know they were like maybe he was having like these moments and they just captured those i mean i would like if you read the story right her husband is the one who encouraged her to get into breakdancing. Your sex must be awful. It's always a white man's fault. They can't even dance. I would like to see them battle a toddler.

Like dance battle. Because I feel like toddlers all have the same like, they're just moving at the knees. There are some actual like not toddlers but like like five-year-olds that are actually like insanely good at break dancing because they're so their center of gravity is so low so they can do like a lot more stuff than like if they were their adult physics behind your your toddler frame makes you the perfect specimen

and that's why you have to commit your life to this. That's why you must be a breakdancer. But yeah, I like, you know, she like, apparently she did though, pause her breakdancing career to complete her PhD.

So she'd be like, look, let's listen. I guess we should call her Dr. Ray Gunn at this point. But yeah, she will probably be completely wiped off the rankings once they have another event where you actually have to be a breakdancer to win. Because, my God, what we saw was not great.

So, look, worry not, B-boys, B-girls. It's okay. You know, Ray Gunn is not out here actually being number one ranked. Okay? Anyway, now I guess we should talk about sick days. Because I don't have... What's your, Pallavi, I know you're younger Is everybody younger? Am I the oldest one here?

Is everyone younger than me? Just want to check everyone's work habits Were you sick day users Or sick days Like I think they're going to think I'm lazy And they're going to fire me When I was in science I would be I, I would sleep

in the lab and they would think it was cool if you smelled bad and wore the same clothes as the day before, because it meant you were working harder. And if you were a lady who wore makeup, well, that's just weird because why do you have time to do makeup and look nice? Shouldn't you be working? Shouldn't you be looking at this microscope i almost got fired for taking a sick day what the fuck is that literally illegal it's literally illegal i was a temp so i think it was like they had a way around it you know but i like that legally you don't have a sick day and that legally you don't have a sick day but like i was sick i was like living in chicago and it was also like one one of the coldest winters at the time. And I was like, I'm sick.

It's horrifyingly cold. I need to stay home. And they were like, you're done. We're done. You're fired. Yeah. Yeah. Well, apparently, sick leave in the United States has gone up 55% in 2023.

And it's only been going up compared to 2019. And the people under the age of 35 are just driving this trend. And it's not because there's an affliction that only affects young people where the older people are left free to work constantly. But there are a few reasons. So the pandemic, A, obviously changed the way everyone feels about motherfuckers showing up at work sick. Because I remember back in the day, like, oh, you're sick. Oh, all right. Well, that sucks for you. And then be like working shoulder to shoulder with somebody. And then as time goes, yo, you're sick. Yo, get the fuck out of here. Like, what the fuck are you trying to do? Like, you're trying to get everybody sick? No, no,

no, no, no. We're not doing this. Today. I gave 10 feet of space between me and this lady at Walgreens because she was sniffling. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and she was buying a pregnancy test. And I was like, did you confuse that with like a COVID test? I didn't even want to get. Yeah. Don't get, don't dig too deep on that story. Who knows? Sometimes you're just, you just are allergic to your baby, you know? Oh my God. That's going to be used. That one quote will be used by the right wing. They're like, do you hear how they talk about abortion? Do you hear how they talk about it? Do you hear how they talk about this? These people, they are sick. I'm going to blow them out like snot through my nose. I don't care. So the pandemic also led states to create or modify paid sick leave laws. So there was basically, so during the pandemic also led states to create or modify paid sick leave laws.

So there was basically so during the pandemic, there was more allowance for sick days, especially related to like mental health. And obviously, depression has plagued Gen Z younger younger people at higher rates than older generations, probably because they are learning in real time more about how bad the world is. Probably because they're willing to get diagnosed. Mom. Yeah. Mother. Right. Probably because they're willing to get diagnosed, mom, mother, right? And I was diagnosed with laziness and not trying hard enough.

That's why you feel bad because you're too lazy. That's why your dreams didn't come true. That's why you're sniffling, you lazy bitch. Oh, it's because you caught a case of the L's. Oh, you have a hundred degree fever? Get the fuck out of bed. You know, the fever is only going to get worse if you stay in bed. I remember.

You got to burn the heat off. Not that it'll get worse, but it's like you should get around and move a little bit. Yeah, you got to move around. You got to go run a mile. You feel sick? One time my brother told me, he was like, yeah, when I start feeling like I'm sick, I just get on the treadmill. And I'm like, we are not.

I don't know how we were raised in the same household. That's crazy. I use that to take liberties to become a living mummy. You just start wrapping yourself up. We're getting a cat. Put Discovery Plus on, please. I have reality to watch

as I recuperate my body, recover. Anyway, the thing is, as we were saying, like when you as a temp probably got fired because you weren't offered paid sick leaves because the United States is, again, we hold the crown of being the only wealthy nation in the world that does not guarantee workers

paid time off when they are sick. And almost a quarter of private sector workers don't have access to even one day of paid sick leave. So obviously the lack of a federal paid sick leave guarantee has left it up to states to implement their own laws. And that weird implementation has just basically enabled experts to study the effects of guaranteed paid sick leave. And it turns out everyone wins when you have paid sick leave. It's not like everyone wins when you have paid sick leave. It's not like they're just going to stay home sick forever. And then my widgets don't get made.

No, apparently. And I think this, this makes sense. Paid sick leave helps workers as well as communities as a whole by quote, significantly reducing the spread of infectious diseases. And even then, if you're like some asshole, who's worried about your widgets getting made, uh, look, it's actually good for your business to increase. It increases worker productivity, reduces turnover, thus boosting your beloved economy. So come on, lay off of it. And a recent poll showed that what? 85% of Americans support federal paid sick leave requirements. That was before the pandemic. So that number is probably a lot higher given the realities that people are living in. So, you know, while I think people have tried to implement this into like law, like in Congress, they have been apparently they've been met with heavy resistance from corporate lobbyists. They're the cause of and solution to all of their problems. Miles, I have a question. Yes. About this topic. What do you think widgets are widgets i'm saying widgets as like a business class term for like a fake a fake product

mine in my mind it's a fidget toy like fidget toys came to my mind and like oh oh oh okay i was thinking about like the apps Yeah, yeah, yeah. The ones you long. The way you're saying it, it's like they're little elves tinkering on a line. Yo, I'm so old. There's like a Wreck-It Ralph universe where they're just building it in the phone. I'm now mad at PalaV because you're checking me like, does this motherfucker know what a widget is? It was just like, do I know what a widget is? It was just like, do I know what a widget is? You know somebody doesn't make those shits that you put on your home screen that tell you when the weather is.

Back to the widget mind. Back to go making your widgets, me lord. Paid sick leave, me lord. No, no, that was just to remember. Widget union. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you. Yo, yeah.

The international brotherhood of widget workers. You know what I mean? We're out here at Local 223. No, that's, again, that's like from the one business class I overheard. And I always hear that in terms of like. On your way to drink, bro. Exactly, dude. You know how it is.

You know how it is. Fuck yeah, suckers. But yeah, I mean, again, like this is also also just i feel like there's just a cultural issue like i think we've all experienced where like especially in this country we've normalized the idea it's like yo dying here is actually the dopest thing you could do like just oh my god your body on the line oh you guys cover that? I think we did. This woman died in her cubicle, and her body was there for four days. Four days. Because no one checked on her.

For four days, her body was there. Oh, my God. And no one gave a shit. Yeah. And it didn't smell to anybody? That's just what cubicles smell like. That's not. That can't.

Someone, I think they only know. Like, at first, when they smelled it, they thought something was off. And they didn't realize they were smelling like a necrotizing, like a decomposing body. Oh my God. Yeah, that's happened in Tempe, Arizona. That's where I'm from. Yeah, so what did you have to do with this? It's my fault.

I should have smelled the body. Yeah. Oh my fault. What'd you have to do with this? It's my fault. I should have smelled the body. Yeah. Oh my God. I thought she was playing heads up seven up. And she was winning. Yeah. She was just really good at heads up seven up. Yeah.

But I think, yeah, I think because a lot of people worked remotely and it was like, you know, part of the building where people weren't there. Okay, don't blame remote work for this one. No, I'm not. I'm just saying that's why nobody's in there. I'm not saying if they weren't remote working, someone would have noticed she didn't die. No, I'm not saying that at all. If they all worked remote, she would have been at home and her cats would have not noticed she died. And that's how she would have wanted it.

Exactly. That story is really grim. And also just how like atomized like workplaces are too where you're like i don't know them like i'm over here if people don't even know like who works for me i haven't heard from them i don't even know we work for wells fargo bank that's just how it is like in general it feels like the answer to a lot of our problems are like community and community-based solutions it's like yeah if people if the if people gave a shit at work or if people gave a shit at home or whatever we would like shit like that would not happen if we were like checking up on each

other more and have the ability and the time off to do so right yeah like everything you know even with like housing and stuff like this everything if if we just get corporations out of it like if they didn't buy up all the homes and we had again community-based solutions to policing and like social safety nets and all these other things yeah that would be that that i i agree i agree and hey take those sick days i've been shitting on my mom a lot but she really was like the first mutual aid person that i know of like growing up because she would like make food for like the old people in our community and like go to their homes and help them and like clean their like places just like as a friend like all of that shit that is mutual aid yeah all of the stuff our immigrant

parents taught us about yeah they're like oh so-and-so's, you know, like aunt died. I'm going to go bring some food over there. Like, you know, you're sort of raised in a thing where at least like, you know, culturally, if there's food is such a love language that. Yeah. That's just like the first instincts. Like, I don't even have words. I can make food.

I can bring that. Or like childcare, like people like caring for each other's kids when stuff happens or. Yeah. You know, that sort of stuff. I wish that was just like i don't think also i don't think anyone got the impression that your mother was a monster i don't think that you would turn out as such a good person if your parents were actually so i didn't i don't i don't want you to think and i don't want the listeners to think that can that be the clip

from the episode yeah that's a republic take that i'm such a good person that does not take, yeah all of those they'll mash them all into one Omni take wow it's like we help each other that seems to be the solution I wish that was so separate from church culture too

so much of community is outside of gay culture to me is framed in like church you know sure and like i feel like this generation my generation is not not like church going but wants community and it's searching for that everywhere they find it online which is cool but that's not the same as in person yeah exactly and i think that's why you start you're starting to see just like what that yearning for community is like how it's manifesting with like running clubs. I feel

like that's a huge thing that's happening more and more people are like, I don't know, like, it's just it. You don't have to be a good runner, but like a bunch of people get together and I can just talk to a bunch of people over a shared interest. And then afterwards, people hang out and I'm that's great.. That's why Jay-Z joined his walking club because Beyonce doesn't do interviews. She's working. She cannot talk to him. He's lonely. He needs to go on his walking club.

Let's take a little stroll. Yeah, no, it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. Alright, that's going to do it for this week's Weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show. If you like the show, uh, means the world to miles. He, he needs your validation folks. Uh, I hope you're having a great weekend and I will talk to you Monday. Bye. We'll see you next week. Thank you. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti.

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