The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 341 (Best of 9/30/24-10/4/24)

Episode Date: October 6, 2024

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podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly Zeitgeist. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat. Yes.

By someone who it feels very embarrassing to be doing our AKs in front of. Yes. They're the president and CEO of Democracy Forward who recently testified on Capitol Hill about the extremist ideas pushed by Project 2025 to the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, which must have felt like a nice warm up for this momentous podcast. Please welcome, Sky Perryman. Sky.

Welcome, welcome. Welcome to the main event, Sky. Great to be here. Thanks so much for joining us. How do we compare so far to the House Oversight and Accountability? Well, you know, that that hearing, the the Republicans called it and I don't think they realized it, but every witness they invited either authored or sponsored Project 2025. And so so it was a it was a

very interesting, it was very interesting hearing and it's going to be interesting to be here with you guys, but neither of you I think authored or sponsored Project 2025. So we're already ahead. Great. Nothing that I'm putting my name on. Was this hearing put together to assuage people's fears? No, they put together a hearing that they called the, quote unquote, legacy of incompetence of the Biden administration.

That was the so-called purpose of this hearing and the four witnesses that they got, all of whom ended up having a deep connection to Project 2025. And of course I was there to talk about the real threats that we have to our democracy. Project 2025 is included in that, and the fact that many of the things the Biden-Harris administration have done for people in communities

have been stalled or blocked in the courts or in other places by these same groups behind Project 2025. But it was a very interesting day. So I'm just glad to be here with people that are not authors of Project 2025. Yes. Yes. We're hard to find. We're few and hard to find. Apparently it was hard for the chair of the committee to find. Yeah. Right.

Just the one person. All right. Well, Skye, we are going to start digging into project 2025, P25, let's call it. So we don't have to keep saying all the syllables. Sounds cooler. Let's just, let's just all figure it out for ourselves what we want to call it. But before we do that, we do like to get to know our guests a little bit better. Great.

Asking you what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? My search history? Well, I'm taking this from an airport and I was actually just searching the quickest place I could get a very quick diet coke here in the airport. So that both tells you that I appreciate Diet Coke. I know this is a Kool-Aid sponsored podcast, so I like Kool-Aid too. I like Kool-Aid too. But it shows you that and it shows you that, you know, I don't do Pepsi. Yeah. Wow.

You don't talk with Diet Pepsi. You sit down to a table at a restaurant, they say, you order a Diet Coke and they say, is Diet Pepsi okay? And I say, ice tea, please. Oh wow. You're like, I don't like it that much. Right, right.

But I think they're probably lovely people and a great company or something. But I'm a Diet Coke fan. Oh yeah, Pepsi definitely is a bet. The crew of the crowd. I don't wanna be smirched. I don't wanna, you know, I'm a diet coke guy. Oh yeah, Pepsi definitely is a bet. The crew of the crop. I don't want to be smirked. I'm trying to make, no, we don't need to make, we don't need to, you know, yeah. Make headlines.

Make enemies here. Right, exactly. Yeah, we're pretty loose about that, but yeah. You're a staunch diet coke guy though, Jack? I'm a staunch diet coke guy. I have, as I've become less habitual in my diet Coke consumption. Which is good. That's good.

Yes. It's a big positive for me and my lifestyle. I will say I've now will have a diet Pepsi every once in a while and be fine with it. Really? Because I'm just not getting that every day. That bottle of chemicals every day. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I thought I would become more sensitive and be like, only the finest for me, but I think it's more like, yeah, just pour it down my throat. I don't care.

Yeah. Well, I'm glad that that's admirable that you're drinking less Diet Coke. And I've actually been trying to limit my consumption too, which is what the search history tells you. I'm failing at that. Right, right, right. I feel like fastest version now, immediately, with haste. I'm curious, as somebody who, you know, you're testifying on Capitol Hill, you're looking at all the imaginations of, you know, this think tank, the Heritage Foundation and how they're trying to just put the country backwards. I know that you must have also had your eye on this trend

that's on the internet about marinating diet cokes, and I was curious about what your thoughts were on that. And if you think that matters. You know what, I've not been called to testify on that. So yeah. Oh, got it. But have you heard about this? This is like a thing we were covering

where people insisted that of a Coke. Yeah. Look, it's the zeitgeist baby. We were reporting on. Yeah, we were reporting on, yeah. All the news that fit. Yeah, but the concept being that if a Diet Coke is in the refrigerator for like, let's say five days,

that's the optimal, I guess, temperature for them to taste the best. Or do you have like- Get all the Diet Coke molecules aligned. So I am a fountain diet coke person. Oh, I like a diet coke out of the fountain, which is why when I'm in an airport, there is an opportunity because they're yes. So you're a connoisseur.

And I could have just been this. Yeah. Diet coke influence. So here it's like it's only fountain. You don't you won't have it any other way. No, I mean, I will drink it from a can, but I really prefer, I think the fountain is good. Yeah. There's something about the plastic 20 ounce bottles that for some reason, like

by the, uh, make sure the Coke is marinated five days in the refrigerator logic that like plastic bottles make it taste warm to me. Like it make it taste bad to me for some reason. I don't know if it's because it takes me too long to drink it. Like it takes me a whole 30 seconds to drink it instead of 15. So it warms up a little bit. But there's something that even though I'm sure the same chemical concoction is being poured into the plastic bottle, is being poured into the plastic bottle, it's being poured into the can.

So specifically the mini can really hits hard for me. I do love a fountain as well, but fountain obviously always variable. There you go. So there you go. That was a good question. I love it. I'm going to ask the team that. What about your search history?

Tell us something. That's great. Yeah. Sometimes it can be a little tricky. I'm sure tricky when it's an employee because that's invasive. Tell me what your search history is. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe don't try it as a manager.

That's a mistake. With coworkers, fine. And then instead of just interacting with them in any way, you just have a notebook and go, uh-huh, and make little notations, check marks. What are you writing down there? Nothing. Nothing. Don't worry about it. No, it's just real. That is real interesting.

Francesca, what is something you think is underrated? I was at a show, a stand-up show the other night and a comic made reference to Chuck E. Cheese because they have kids and nobody in the audience had kids because they were kids and nobody in the audience had kids because they were all like young and whatever. And like, and I want to tell you guys, Chuck E. Cheese is underrated.

Chuck E. Cheese is great. Chuck E. Cheese is wonderful. Yeah, I'm glad it still exists. There need to be more places for kids. Obviously we've destroyed all toy stores. It is as, you know, one of the comics said it's like a places for kids. Obviously, we've destroyed all toy stores. It is as you know, one of the comics said it's like a casino for children. And there's a jump part and it's adorable and it's like fairly affordable. It's air conditioned. Yeah, Chuck E. Cheese

is really terrifying the sort of animatronic dude that comes out. If you get if you do get one. But like, it like it's great yes there's germs everywhere but like you need a place where they can just you know where a kid can be a kid you know what I'm saying yeah which I think is their logo their slogan or it used to be I don't know what it is now but Chuck Entertainment Cheese is a good spot and I and I support it I feel like it's like the working man's like charmed kids playhouse that costs $2,000 to rent, you know? Right. You do put the full name on people.

I appreciate that. Charles Entertainment Cheese. Yeah. I mean, it is the legal name. Do you remember like the ones that were kind of trying to be like Chuck E. Cheese, like pistol, you ever go to Pistol Pizza? No, that's how it was found. Where was that was Philly there was no there's one in the valley

I remember going to and it was just kind of like one of those it's like we got a we got freaky Robots and shit, too. It's not Chuck E. Cheese No, you know where I did go though in the in the peninsula in California was Rocky and Bullwinkles You guys ever remember that no,. Oh, wait. So fun. Oh wow. I haven't thought about that place in a minute. They were like animatronic Bullwinkle and Rocky. It was so, it was good.

It was good. And yeah, it's always like, it's just pizza, arcade, maybe a jump house. Hell yeah, love it. Got it all. I like that Pistol Pete's was kind of committing infringement from two angles because there's a famous basketball player named Pistol Pete. Yep.

His nickname was Pistol Pete. And then also they're ripping off Chuck E. Cheese's and they were like, maybe it'll be so much infringement that there's- If you look up Pistol Pete, it's men's underwear. What? Pistol Pete, it's all about the feel. Oh wow. Oh no. On your pistol? That is sheer. All right. And I've seen a penis. Okay. Wow. Okay. Not to brag. Oh, they sell jock straps too? Okay. Not to brag, but I have seen a penis. A sprinkling of pornography. Oh, these, yo,

I have seen a penis sprinkling of pornography. Oh, these, we all, you're not coming to play if you're rocking one. Yo! It's still beats. Do we have to share with the viewers? No, no, we will be banned from any kind of video ever again if I show the base of the shaft. Yo, I really like that. These are hot. These are hot.

That's a lot of, yo. I got a full Soulja Boy from Miles. Yeah, exactly. Yo! I was looking at that and I'm like, eh? This is, yeah, the, ooh. Okay, anyway, should we go to my overrated? Yeah, moving on.

Nah, I'm sorry. I just got to this website. I just caught the vapors. Jack's like, I'm not gonna miss out on this. Yeah, this is... Alright, yeah, it's very revealing. We've all seen really jacked man lubed up in a sheer thong. Yeah, I mean, this is definitely like, you know, you see this kind of stuff out there, Pride,

when you're showing off that hard body and letting them know what you're working with. See, yeah. The Pride, yeah, I've seen more of like, God, what is the fair in San Francisco that's- Oh, Folsom Street? Folsom Street Fair. Yeah. Then my favorite is like in Pride or Folsom Street. Folsom Street is definitely more about like BDSM and whatnot. But when it's Pride and there's someone who doesn't have a great body,

but they are a great body, but they are a nudist. And it's just like, it is the, it's a call for like the conch shell rings out and every guy who just wants to be naked, like just let it hang out on a corner is just like, they're just standing. They're just like, I'm hands on this is my Nick, look at it. I'm here. And it just like, this is my dick. Look at it. I'm here. And it's like, and here's my little like 72 year old flat ass. They got podcaster ass podcast. Very much pod ass.

Jack's just like, imagine what he's going to be like when he's older. Oh yeah. And you should let people know. Give me some retirement plans. This ass has made some money. Okay Started podcast empires with this booty. Yeah, that's right It actually like for a minute from from my tailbone it goes in from there The tailbone is actually the furthest out something Well, something else that's underrated is a wedge, a wedge pillow. I don't have one actually, but you can sit on a wedge.

It really makes, you know, makes you sort of like pelvic tilt. Yes. Get your pelvic tilt going. So your lumbar is correct and, you know, get your foot pep stool or whatever. I'm doing it right now. What is something you think is overrated? I think the Lakers, you know, I think every year we're like talking about the Lakers as if they have like this chance at a title. And I don't know how it is to be a Los Angeles fan, but I'm looking at them like that.

Guys are not in the conversation for no championship. They haven't been since 2020. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the Los Angeles Lakers, the from the NBA. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think they're. Hmm. I totally forgot that this is a franchise.

Maybe it's just the LeBron fans. I don't know. Yeah. Although I feel like it wasn't like this when he was in Cleveland. Right. Like the ESPN was not leading off every show being like, Cleveland might be in trouble. Right, well I think, cause you get to combine having the Gulp player with a franchise that everybody except Laker fans hates.

So it all works. I get the momentum to do that. Look, as a lifelong Laker fan, I'm hurt by that take, the were kindred spirits between Raptors and Laker fans. We had a good thing going and then we completely blew it up without properly replacing parts and I'm like, are we just going to wait another 12 years or something? No, I agree. No one should be saying that we're at the moment in any conversation given what we got. Yet you're in every conversation that happens.

I think because now, especially with Brawny being there, there's all this new intrigue. And I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, LeBron, but the Lakers is not a discovery zone. This is not a place for you to play with your child and make memories. This is a serious basketball franchise. Send that young man to the G League where he will actually develop. And then let's talk. But I'm a fan of the nepotism though. I'm a fan of it.

You know, it's LA, you know, it wouldn't happen any other way. Had to be the Lakers for something like that for sure. No matter. No matter. I'm wondering like, is LeBron the late, like if the Lakers had to be a single player throughout the history of the NBA, I'm sure Lakers fans would want themselves to be a single player throughout the history of the NBA. I'm sure Lakers fans would want themselves to be Kobe, but I feel like they're actually LeBron.

Why is that? Because they're the second best ever. They're the second greatest, right? Or at least, you know, the, it varies depending on, And people love to hate both the Lakers and LeBron. Yeah. But, yeah, he has it. I mean, he like, Kobe was like the one who's like, no, yeah, hate me. So I can like traumatize you in your own arena was his whole thing.

I think with LeBron, he just hasn't played with the Lakers enough. I think to be able to be like, when people think of the Lakers, they think of LeBron. Because I think people would think, in LA, people would think of Magic before LeBron, I would say. Like Kobe, obviously. I'm saying he's the defining player. I'm saying if we're doing allegories, also, both Magic and Kobe stayed in the same place their whole career, whereas the same can't be said for the Lakers, right? They were in Minneapolis at first. Oh, got it. Okay, interesting, interesting, interesting.

Yeah, interesting. I'm just saying. Hot take. Hot take, the Lakers are the LeBron James of the NBA. I can work for ESPN. Yeah, I mean, that's a good outrage article. People are clicking the shit out of that. Can you believe what O'Brien dropped on ESPN?

Fuck out of here. I'd be walking out of ESPN headquarters like Reagan and during the assassination attempt. Hey, O'Brien, what? Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. We're turning up the heat on the newest episode of All the Smoke. Vice president and Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris pulls up to the show

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And we're back. And I guess the last debate that we are going to get in this cycle happened Tuesday night when JD Vance and Tim Walls had their showdown on CBS. And I say, I guess it's the last one because I think Trump fully backed out of the second presidential debate. He's also backing out of a lot of interviews, which I hope is a sign that they're trying to pull like a Dave type situation. Like we need a double fucking now

because this guy cannot go out there. Sorry to bring up like a really timely reference of a Kevin Kline Sigourney Weaver film. You know who could do it is John Voight in Megalopolis, which is what I watched yesterday instead of the debate. Wait, isn't Sigourney Weaver, yeah, yeah, she was the first lady. Okay, so before we get into it,

the two of you, you both watched it, right? Is that what you said? You both caught it? Well, no, because I knew I was coming on to this and you would tell me everything. And you could learn about it. Yeah. That's smart.

Okay, Paige, great answer. And then Andrew, obviously, you're one of the most up on things in people I know. This is my one prepared line for this entire episode. So I was really interested in watching a fascist who thinks he's a libertarian, who's resentful he doesn't have the approval of liberals on a screen yesterday. So I watched Megalopolis. libertarian who's resentfully doesn't have the approval of liberals

So Megalopolis good whoo, I will say, you know I don't come on here. I I feel like the reviews are probably pretty accurate It's it's a pretty specific type of person who likes is really gonna love it Probably not me. That being said, there are two scenes in this movie that made me laugh harder than anything I've ever laughed at in a movie theater. Okay. That's good. This is a new movie. Yeah. What's that?

I thought you were talking about some old movie that was like, no, no, no. No, no. It's came out over the weekend. This is theaters right now. There's so much stuff. And have no idea why none of us are aware of the same stuff. Well, and this was also no one would buy this. No one wanted to distribute this film. So like there was really no rollout of this. Okay. Aside from people were like, I think like or not.

I think like Francis Ford Coppola was assaulting people on set and then doing massive rewrites on his trailers It wasn't like on the thing in his trailer smoking weed You you gotta you gotta um You know Uh, uh our artist not the art. Um, or whatever of it. No, there's a lot of terror. I mean, you know, john voe childabuff It's a yeah, right. Yeah Who's it's a real gropey kind of set, we'll just say.

But yeah, I'd heard it was, you know, not so good, but yeah, not a joke. I laugh for like, I'm not a big theater laugher, but I really went buckwalled. Also, and I'll get to this at my recommendations at the end, but I saw it at the which I don't know if the two of you have ever been there. I'm aware of it. I've not been inside there though, but I'll just give

just a little indication of what kind of joint it is. Yeah. For so okay, you know, like AMC a list for I don't know, whatever $30 a month, you get unlimited ish with some restrictions, movie screenings. version of this is they have a year pass that costs $99. What? It is, in my opinion, the best deal. Yeah. It's like 28 cents a day.

Yeah. Oh my God, dude. I'm intrigued. And the thing that I always hear is like, that place is busted. They're like, yo, I don't God, dude. I'm, and the thing that I always hear is like that place is busted. Like, they're like, yo, I don't know, man. They say it's a movie theater with dining, but it does not have like the right vibes. The park. I don't know.

Yeah, but it doesn't not feel like if you were writing a movie about an obvious organized crime, drug money laundering allegedly place allegedly it would allegedly seem a lot like this place I'm my mind is blown with like a deal that's like worse from a business perspective than fucking movie pass somehow they're just maybe they maybe they're in trouble and they're just throwing stuff at the wall. Like, what if this gets... Yeah. Let me just say, I know about this pass.

I have been to this theater and I just still won't go. I'm sorry. I still won't buy that pass. Okay. Okay. I was intrigued for a second because I did recently cancel my AMC. Right. And I've kind of regretted it.

It's like, of course, like I thought there was nothing coming out I cared about. But then I realized as soon as I canceled that there's a bunch of stuff that I like kind of care about and I'm like, oh, damn, I'm not going to see that now. They do have, they have new movies. I mean, I saw Megalopolis within the first week it's out and, and it's, it seems fine, like there's nothing like outwardly wrong with the place it just right is inwardly though the one star reviews of this place are escaping yeah i was just looking it up yeah then it's i did i did see a red Reddit review for their other location where apparently if they sell to like zero tickets or no, if zero people have checked in regardless of how many tickets

they've sold, they just straight up won't play the movie. And so someone arrived late and they just walked into a, you know, a theater with all the lights on. No, no, like everything just lights up, house lights up. Like the club is closing. They're like, yeah, man, here it is. Nothing. And then they went to find an employee, which took a beat.

And then when they finally did, they were like, oh, yeah, we just thought, do you want us to play it? And then just like, it was like a TV at your friend's house. Yeah, yeah. They hit a couple buttons on the iPad and the movie started. All right, can you wait a second? I got to rewind it really quick. You got to rewind it? They should let you take, just pause the movie started. Can you wait a second? I got to rewind it really quick. You got to rewind it.

They should let you take, just pause the movie. You should just, if enough people in the theater yell pause at the same time. Just a little pee break for everyone. Yeah, look at her. Hey, are we down to pause? Okay, yeah. Pause.

There could be like a button you push when you're like, you're thinking, and if enough people silently push the pause button, it's agreed upon. You trigger the threshold for the theater-wide pause. Since we're talking about it, the other thing that rules about this place is it's like a dine-in movie theater like in Alamo,

except their ordering system is on your phone. So in order for their business model to work, you have to turn on your phone. So in order for their business model to work, you have to turn on your phone. Yeah, cool. Perfect. And you have to have sounds on and alerts on or else you won't know. It is my favorite theater for a certain type of movie. And I will say, Megalopolis was definitely one.

That does sound right. Yeah. For $99 for the whole year, like it does feel, I'm like, yo bro, let's fucking, let's go get wild over at the fucking. Yeah. All right. Well enough of that because we're putting off the actual news that happened.

Okay. Vice presidential debate. This is what I'm interested in personally, but okay. We haven't even started. I know. I mean, part of me was like, I don't know, man, go ahead. I mean, here's the thing, there's a lot of talk obviously about what was specifically said and like, like any reputable journalist would do talking

reporting on what was said. None of it was really all that surprising given how each campaign has been messaging like the stakes of the election and just like the rhetoric being used. But like, like the thing was Vance tried to come off as some kind of moderate when it came to things like abortion or like election denial, but failed. Tim Walls was just so normal and nice. He sort of just kind of seemed out of place next to a political creature and chronic bullshitter like Vance like

there were times where he would be like, Oh, well, you know, there was a time like he misspoke he was talking about like understanding school shootings and he's like, and I've become friends with school shooters and like now like, Oh, well, you know, there was a time like he misspoke, he was talking about like understanding school shootings. And he's like, and I've become friends with school shooters. And like now like, can't you know, like conservative news like what Tim walls is friends with school shooters. It's like, dude, the guy clearly misspoke. And he was talking about becoming friends, like, because his sort of stance on gun control change. And he said that happened after meeting, you know, grieving parents. And so, like, again, I think from stylistically, I guess, if you're just going from who quote, sounded better, I would say Vance sounded better in that like his the, the cadence

at which he spoke was smoother, but there was no substance to what he said. And he basically used his smooth talking to lie constantly and dance around the real hot button issues like him and Trump's constant vilification of immigrants. Or the fact that Vance wouldn't even say whether Trump lost the election in 2020. It was very yikes adjacent. I did see that clip. I saw that. I saw him refusing to answer.

It's, it's very, I mean, it's like he, he tried to wiggle his way out of it. But again, it's like one of those things when you listen to it, like, oh my God, this dude is so full of shit. You know, and I think Roy Wood Jr. tweeted something along the gist of sort of like, JD Vance has the energy of a restaurant manager that understands your experience was terrible,

but he has not taken that hamburger off the bill. Yeah. That's essentially like, so I think it was for most people like, I don't like this fucking guy. And I, you know, a lot of talk about the polls, like, well, who won? Who won? There's all like so many headless, who did win the debate last night? I mean, like I think in a snap poll that like CNN or CBS may have done, people seemed evenly split if that fucking matters. When it came down to likeability, I think Vance demonstrated that, you know, despite his better than expected performance, people just don't like him. And Waltz came out with a boost in his approval ratings rather than JD Vance.

But it really is one of those things where it's like, you want to the presidential debates are really giving you an idea of like who the president will be. Whereas this one just feels like and then the two lesser characters can talk on stage. But the thing, yeah, yeah. But it's like he's such a freak. They. Yeah, I think it's such a missed opportunity to really you just just gotta call him a freak to his face constantly. That was the thing, right? Like, Walsh was, he's just, he,

I think he's just genuinely incapable of getting the knife out. You know what I mean? Like, you're like, yo, this should have been a knife party up there. This guy is, has said so many fucking stupid things and like offensive, racist, violently misogynistic things that you can just be like,

hey man, I've actually committed to memory eight things you've said. Every time you say something, I can just dead that with something that came out of your mouth. The moderators did point out a couple of things that they each said or whatever, but it didn't come out that way. I think the other thing is that like Vance sort of clearly this campaign is just trying to say everything that's happening right now is because of Kamala Harris down from the fucking weather to like my bacon costs $46 because of

president Kamala Harris and that logic, like he kept using this same shit over and over every answer was somehow master masterfully. And I mean that in the most sarcastic sense, would just kind of reroute the topic back to Kamala Harris. So for example, right, like Wallace was pointing out his dehumanizing rhetoric around immigrants, and how he blames immigrants for like everything. It's like, this guy's gonna blame immigrants for everything, like including like the housing crisis.

Here is JD Vance's just spectacular answer on how he's like, oh, you think I'm blaming everything on immigrants? Well, hold this L, Tim. Tim, Tim just said something that I agree with. We don't want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices, but we do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting in millions of illegal aliens into this country, which

does drive up costs, Tim. 25 million illegal aliens competing with Americans for scarce homes is one of the most significant drivers of home prices in the country. It's why we have massive increases in home prices that have happened right alongside massive increases in illegal alien populations under Kamala Harris's leadership. Under Kamala Harris's leadership.

I'm just like, I love how he goes, look, I'm not going to blame illegal aliens for everything. I'm going to blame Kamala Harris everything, I'ma blame Kamala Harris for letting in the illegal aliens that are the reason we have a housing shortage. Like, oh, yeah, sir. And just like this idea that like, yeah, yeah, yeah. The reason homes are unaffordable is because people that are so destitute

that they're willing to leave their homes and families behind are the ones outbidding people you with a cash offer for a starter home. That's precisely it. It can't be the corporate, you know, hovering of single family homes being turned into rental units and things like that. So it's just like, sure, man. Yeah, that's what happened.

There are a few other really interesting gems that came out of him. I think a lot of people also talked about like gun violence and school shootings and what the plan is there. Tim Wallace was like, yeah, gun control, that could help. JD Vance's first answer was something akin to like, well, yeah, I mean, obviously you gotta cut down on school shootings, but you know, we also need to cut down on like the inner city gun problem.

You're like, oh, okay, so now you're just swinging the focus on like black and brown people again, when the question was about protecting kids. But when he asked, you know, when asked for something a little more like, but what, how do you protect kids? This was JD Vance. But what do we do about the schools? What do we do to protect our kids? And I think the answer is, and I say this, not loving the answer, because I don't want my kids to go to school and a school that feels unsafe or where there are visible signs of security but I unfortunately think that we have to increase security in our schools we have to make the doors lock better we have to make the

doors stronger we've got to make the windows stronger and of course we've got to increase school resource officers because so we we need more police. Yeah. We need the doors to lock better. That's just like, again, he, his delivery, smooth. The substance we need door lock better. We need stronger door. He's clearly are, are going to be our first gamer VP. Cause it's just like, there's no dumber like strategy except and just like unless

you truly believe like oh we're fighting now oh right we need more need more armor hit points on the fucking fuck out of here you dumbass we actually need a stronger HP HP points on like the weapons the offensive weapons that the resource officers are using as well as some kind of protective spell that can be cast on the students during such an event. It's truly, oh my God. It feels like his goal is just to just talk in a cadence so that you zone out and don't hear what he said.

100%, that's almost precisely like what he's trying to do. Because it's like the thing where it's smooth. It's again, it sounds like the guy's talking and saying a normal thing. He's totally talking 100%. Yeah. And you're like, if you zoom in, you're like, oh, this guy's talking.

He's totally saying stuff. You're like, what? Yeah. What is he saying? And he did his best. I mean, I guess compared to his running mate, yeah, he's a better debater because Trump is just the sure, but that's not really saying much. And it's interesting to see some of the coverage be

like, I mean, clearly JD Vance like walked out of that one, like on top. But I think just to say that is because he just is like just really good at being a bullshitter and, you know, saying things that are not true, like with the confidence of the thousand white men. But that's what it seems. Yeah. I will just say that seems like it's the game. Who cares if he's lying? I mean, I was going to say, obviously, it's different, but it reminds me of like, there are certain comedians.

I'm a stand up. So this is the way I think of this. There are some comedians who you'll watch crush technically, like everyone's laughing. When you think about it, you're like, they're just talking in joke cadence. What they're saying is, a magic trick was done. And then you go, well, ultimately, those people left thinking they had a good time.

Right, right, right. That is like, that is the trick. That's how I thought like Aziz Ansari's like early specials were like, I'm like, I think this guy is just getting louder at certain points and people are like, that's a joke. Can you believe that? And you're like, whoa, oh my God, dude. I can't believe that toilet paper cost that much at the store. I think both speak to the same thing,

which is that a lot of people just don't wanna have to think. So if you offer them that, they're like, yeah, he won. I didn't have to think about what happened at all. Yeah, but I think most people though, when it came down to things like being pro pro choice, like he just failed like spectacular. Like he'll be like, no, like, obviously, I think like this is this isn't a bad like people should be able to have a decision.

But I think that choice goes to the states and blah, blah, blah. And like Tim Walsh had a pretty good answer. He's like, like, miss me with all this, like, like nonsense about if it's a state's choice, like this is just down to someone deciding what they want to do with their own body, like anything that isn't, if we're not just debating that, like there's no point in talking about it. And he did keep hitting that point. So like in contrast to what Vance would say, you're like, Oh, right.

This guy said something like actually, like that makes sense rather than mealy-mouthed dancing. Then there's just a lot of stuff too, or like they were talking about family leave. And again, Vance is like, we're all about choice, man. Like the choice, like if you want to, sure, if you want to take time off, great. But like also if you want to toil to death, you know, at work, you should be able to- You should have that choice. You should have that choice.

There shouldn't be some federal guideline as to having family leave because we're absolute bottom of the barrel. Yeah, if you are worried that your family's going to starve to death because you couldn't work over this time, then you should be able to work. And you shouldn't have the option to not. No, no. Fuck out of here. It's a choice.

If you want to make no money during this time. That's your choice. And that's your choice. And that's what we're all about choice. If you don't want your kid to be able to read and you've created some form of mathematics that you want to teach them in your home, that's your choice, okay? And we'll try and get you subsidies

so we can completely destroy public schooling. But anyway, that's our concept of public. And that's up to the states. That's all choice. That's, that's our concept. And that's your choice. That's all choice. That's what it's like when you hear they like it's like, OK, fine. I'm choosing. Oh, it's going to say VP debate does have this weird sweet spot of like, who the fuck is actually watching this except for the people that can see.

Hopefully, I would assume see through all this or like have their mind made up either way. I guess right Yeah, like so it's just like there is a little like it only matters if someone totally biff something Yeah, right. I think undecided watched this Well, I think the people like a lot of places or a lot of you know Mainstream media coverage of it is like JD Vance really fucked up at the end when asked point blank about the 2020 election. And he was like, who won? And he's like, like, Tim Walz was like, Hey,

so did he lose? And then JD Vance goes, you know, I want to talk about the future, you know, and you're just like, Holy shit, like, he just felt like one of those things are like, that's dope. Those are the kinds of non-answers that are really revealing. And I think that was like one of the moments that I'm sure the Harris Walls campaign will seize because it was just kind of being like, yeah, like we got another batch of like freaks out here

who are like, no, whatever I need it to be is the reality. And we'll do whatever we have to get there to achieve that. So yeah, did we learn anything new? Not really. So in that sense, I think, you know, it's not like this shifted poles in any meaningful way, aside from like their own like ability or people's perception of them and their suitability to be vice president. But yeah, nothing, nothing great. And you know, in a way, that's why I appreciate you telling me I'm spoiling Megalopolis for me

because now I can't wait to see that. That's actually something I can't wait to see. It's at least so funny. Watch a pirated copy, allegedly. All right, well, let's take a quick break as we discuss the finer points of Megalopolis amongst ourselves, and we'll come back to talk about this poor red-faced boomer who may have wasted $4,000. And we'll do that

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And it's biopic season, everyone. Is that actually season or did you just- Oh, yank you, yank you, yank you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's just like, this is the type of movie they like to put out to get some love. There's usually, I feel like there's like a 1.5x multiplier on your chances of getting an Oscar if it's a musical biopic.

Like Bohemian Rhapsody. Like Rami Malek, yeah. He probably deserves the love. Fell into that Oscar. Tooth Acton, Tenacta. Tooth Acton, baby. Them gompers. Yeah.

Gompers and an accent. That'll do it. Tooth actin to the tooth, maybe them gompers. Yeah, gompers in an accent. And that'll do it. I think the Elton John guy got some love that's on the edge. I walked the line, did some numbers. I walked the line, did do some numbers. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, we're Capote.

Now I'm just Capote. Fucking bullshit. Lincoln. Specifically musical biopics. We've got three coming out. Two. Some would say too many, but they kind of seem to have had that same thought. And they're like, okay, how do we make these not all the thing that they

made fun of in walk hard? You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so we got the Bob Dylan one, which seems like it's a pretty straightforward, like could have been one of the movies being made fun of and walk hard. It's just, they're like, yeah, but we got Timothy Chalamet as Bob Dylan, as young Bob Dylan. YB. Yeah. Enough said. Uh, it's only covering him up to 1965. So it's like going to cover his, him going electric. I don't know if you guys know about this whole controversy during Bob Dylan's career, but he was like an acoustic troubadour.

And then like people were so bored at the time that when he decided to start playing an electric guitar, they were like, Judas, fuck you, man. Turn your fucking back on us. We hate you. But arguably, are they going to just stop before 1968 and the height of the anti-Vietnam War movement and the height of what made Bob Dylan even more legendary? It's just like, we're going to just depoliticize everything about Bob Dylan. It could be more about the iconography, the music, the hair, the sunglasses.

We're going to see him go to a store and be like, what about those sunglasses? They're like, no, no, no, Bob. Those sunglasses make you look like shit. And he like puts them on and then like. These are for the elderly. And then he's. He takes them off the face of a blind guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can borrow mine. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's every musical biopic is just like someone at a piano messing around or on their guitar.

And we like. Yeah. Yeah, like play that again. What? I will say as Bob Dylan fan, the trailer did get me, but that's, I'm a sucker. Is it in black and white? Yeah, well, I mean, everything's fucking, I'm also thinking like,

which makes me happy. Timothy Chalamet is also just like in so many IP type movies, right? Like they're not original scripts. Like he's in Dune. He was Willy Wonka. Like Call Me By Your Name was like based on a novel. Like, is this always kind of being like,

he's like, he's the IP God. Bob Dylan? Yeah, Timothy Chalamet, man. He is the IP God. I didn't know Call Me By Your Name was already a book, but I feel like that doesn't count as like a big IP. No, no, no. But I mean, but in the I sort of mean that and sort of like the inside baseball Hollywood way, because like everyone in Hollywood now says everything has to be IP intellectual property has to be based on something else to the point where like I know writers who

are writing scripts and just claiming it's based on a book that exists because they're counting on development executives to not read it or actually parse through that. That's amazing. And they're like, oh, that's great. You got the rights. And they're like, yep. And they're like, perfect. No, I love that.

There's actually a post-credit sequence in Call Me By Your Name where it's revealed that it takes place in the GI Joe Transformers. Just to anchor it. But yeah, I mean, like that's like everyone is just because the amount of creative thinking in this town has just gone fucking just poof that it's now everything's like, is it based on something people know about? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just hold it right out. Yeah, we got these terrible fucking movies or like half-assed biopics that like about really interesting people like that Amy Winehouse thing I feel like could have probably been interesting but I that yeah there's been a big string of miss I yeah I didn't even see that one I haven't seen a lot of just because you're like I could watch a documentary like I didn't want to Nina Simone one I have watched Amy Amy Winehouse documentaries I'm like that's that's depressing enough you know I want like the real depressing thing I mean mean, it's also, by the way, I didn't even talk about this.

I was going to, but I'm deep in the Menendez Brothers situation here. And I'm like, the documentary on Max, HBO, whatever, is great. It's really good. And I don't want to subject myself to fucking Ryan Murphy's, you know, sensationalized bullshit on Netflix. It's just like that, you know, he's a real thing that he says is been the best thing that happened to Menendez brothers in 30 years.

Shut up. He's like, I mean, I don't believe they were incestuous, but you know, but like, what if they were and it was, yeah, like, right. But anyway, they made them fucking stars? Yeah, like, ugh. Right. But anyway, yeah. I made them fucking stars, okay? Yeah. They should be thanking me. Nobody knew who they were. I put them on the map. The Chalamet thing, like, we don't have to show the trailer because you can just close

your eyes and picture the trailer, and it is that. That is exactly what it is. It's him wearing glasses. If you know Bob Dylan and you know Timothy Chalamet, put a Bob Dylan wig on Timothee Chalamet. So in order to, and probably as a result of some of these other biopics, there was also a Whitney Houston one that didn't do very well. Studios are trying to figure out like, what do we do here?

How do we spin this so that it feels like it's different than every musical biopic that you've ever seen. Also, they usually try to hide the fact that movies are musicals now. That seems to be the trick is make a musical and then don't show any of the songs in it. Oh. And just be like, what, this a musical? No. The Mean Girls remake, the entire reason for it existing was the Mean Girls, the musical, but they like cut the musical out of the title and made a trailer where

it was just a remake of Mean Girls. Yeah. And it did great because people were like, wait, yeah. Some kind of musical. And they're singing and I guess I'm okay with that, but I guess it's like not a selling point. So they're trying to come up with other selling points. Yeah. We've talked before about the upcoming Pharrell biopic that we're just doing.

People were alive. I mean, Dylan's alive. Dylan's alive. I think, I do think a big part of the problem with biopics is that like, if the person like is so iconic that like, you know, everybody knows like Tupac, for instance, like everybody knows exactly what they look like. Everybody saw a lot of them on camera. And then you like have a film with somebody else playing them who's not as magnetic. The Tupac movie wasn't L the Bob Marley movie

wasn't L and a lot of it was because these people look nothing fucking like them. What the fuck is that? Straight out of Compton was not an L. I love that. That was I mean, that's where it's like, thank God you had O'Shea Jackson Jr. And shit like that. And that was great. But like with the Tupac one, they just went after a dude who went viral for looking like Tupac and we're like, get him some acting classes. And that's what you got there. So the for real, I'm

like a huge, I'm a gigantic for Elphan. Oh, really growing up? Oh, like, because people are like, Oh, you kind of look like is he Asian or not? And I was like, Oh, you know what, this might be like a style lane for me like when I was like 17 years old. And I like the Neptunes, I have like a near encyclopedic knowledge of like every song they've produced and artists they collaborated with.

But when I saw the trailer for this, when I went to see Beetlejuice Beetlejuice and I groaned so fucking hard, I was like, why is Pharrell a fucking Lego? Like what are we even doing here? And also this isn't the time for a Pharrell biopic. It just came to me. It came off as such a weird cash grab. Does like whatever meat is or the minions involved as well.

Just Lego should I mean, probably. Or like never more inspired than when he is making music for the minions or a cartoon. Yes, it makes sense. Like, yeah, dude, he seems to be very artistically inspired by like cartoons and kids entertainment. Yeah, it's it's very whimsical. Like, is he part Asian? No, I don't think so. OK, see, that's why I was like, he's not there a lot of times. I remember in the early days of the Internet, it was like, oh, like oh, you know He's Filipino and like I'm like, well really

Like really digging in it still seems it seemed like a mystery unless you probably Wikipedia and the answers there But all that to say it's like I don't this again Why is it a Lego? Is it because the Lego movies do well and you're just trying to have some synergistic thing here where it's like Pharrell plus Legos take your kids and then yes you can hear Snoop Dogg talk too but they all look like fucking Legos yeah I think it's what you know I think it's what Jack said it's it is a cash grab it's a cash grab and all Lego toys look pretty similar like all the Lego guys like I know and I'm trying to work on that and I said that first I'm trying to work on that.

And I said that first and I have to check my white supremacy. My bad. But like they like show these people who are supposed to like garner. Oh, wow. Yeah. Like, oh yeah, he's this is where he gave that song idea to that famous artist. And it's just like another Lego person, but they have a goatee and you're like, okay.

Busta rhymes. In the world of famous producers and given how Diddy has gone down. Why would it happen? Yeah. It does make you feel slightly like, let him do this because like, maybe, maybe this is just me being naive. I know Diddy did come out with some sort of documentary like about himself or like, you know, people do all kinds of crazy things, but I'm like, maybe it means like, because

like, if you also had like really awful shit on you, would you want to be doing press tours? Like, you know what I mean? It makes me feel like, maybe he's a good guy. It's the way I feel about 50 Cent and 50 Cent's got a documentary, I think about Diddy, which means to me, be like, maybe 50 Cent is actually not a bad person. Maybe he doesn't have

rape allegations and assault allegations because why would he be doing this documentary? Quick Google search. Quick Google search, probably not. Yeah. But I don't know. He does. There's something about this that I'm like, yeah, okay.

Maybe there's still good people in music out there who we once admired. I think at this point, it's a safe bet to just presume that anyone at the height of the entertainment industry probably has a graveyard's worth of skeletons in their closet. I think so too. The Me Too movement really passed over the music industry and was like, too much, too big. I'll get back to this.

I need music to do drugs to at least. Too much homework for the reporters on this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For real though, for real though. Right. The one so suggesting that this really is just them trying not to have to cast somebody who looks like the iconic person. We also have the Robbie Williams movie that is coming out soon. Robbie Williams is a massive star in the UK. He is like from- He's a blurred lines guy, right? No, that's Robin Thicke. God, yeah.

That's Robin Thicke's son, right? That's Alan Thicke's son. Alan Thicke's son, Robin. Okay, no, Robbie Williams had a couple songs in the early 2000s that broke through in the US. Millennium, I think. Yeah, Millennium is one where he's, and like he's basically like hot, right? Like that's kind of his thing. He's like a hot boy

idol. Like, okay, but he's still alive. He's still too fresh in people's memory to have a biopic starring anybody who's just like a, we're doing Gen X biopics is what we're saying. Yes, exactly. Exactly. And so what they've done is they're like- Okay. So they're thinking like, okay, we have this problem that we can't solve with Robbie Williams, this Robbie Williams biopic,

like how do we cast it? And then they at around that time, the Planet of the Apes movies are coming out and they're like, what if Robbie Williams a monkey for some reason? Yeah. Not everybody in the movie a monkey. Now I'm going to start talking like the politician that we were

just meeting for the first time out of Virginia. Not everybody monkey, Robbie Williams though. He monkey. Let's see this teaser. Oh my God. Think. Yeah, they're kids kicking a ball at a chimp.

What's with the monkey? Based on a true story. Based on a true story. Hold on, what is the true story here? This chimpanzee who evolved into a hot singer or what? Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry Robbie. Wait, does he become human at some point? No, I think it's it's meant to be because he said I've always felt different.

I've always felt a little less evolved. Yes. And interesting. Yeah. That's evolved. Okay. This feels like a cover for me too stuff. I've always felt less evolved. My animal instincts got the better of me. Right. Haven't you seen my biopic? I'm a monkey. I'm a bit of one of those freak chimps that'll rip your arms off and beat you to death with them. Yeah.

So the really shocking thing about this is that it has come out like at various festivals and people think it's good. Like it got an 86% on Rotten Tomatoes. People are like, this thing actually goes. It's fucking cool. Were tears shed? Somehow. I don't know. I, I look, I don't want to judge it.

Like do something different. You know what I mean? It's better to have this than the same old, same old biopic that you, which for the longest time I thought was biopic, which I still think it should be pronounced biopic, but that's all I have. Yeah, like a biography. Like a biopsy, but like a biopic. Are you getting a biopsy? Yeah.

I always think of like cancer treatments, whatever. Yeah. Biopic. But right, like it's like, okay, they did something different. I don't know why it had to be about Robbie Williams, but it sounds like it's a nice movie about a chimp that finally learns his place and it's on stage. And inspires a generation.

No, like I'd prefer some just weird thing where it's like if Pharrell was an alien, you know, cause he says that a lot. And amongst people growing up, he's like, I always felt different in my creativity. I'm like, he says that a lot. Like, I think it's even in the trailer about how he said, I always felt different as a kid. I'm like, that's a better thing to see than like, oh, so now you're a fucking Lego? No, no, no, no, no.

And at least that's a different kind of move. The Andre 3000 biopic that it needs to be him secretly. He's been an alien the whole time. Yes. He's been trying to tell you the whole time. That's what AT Aliens was. Like every book, like that, that shit was not time. That's what AT Aliens was like everybody. Like that shit was not ironic.

Yeah, right. Nothing, not a metaphor for alienation. You are such a great idea. You are not listening to me. I'm actually from another planet. I just want to be heard. Yeah. No one even noticed my flute is using alien technology.

Everyone just goes, wow, look at that cool flute he's got. It's from another fucking planet, y'all. Anyways, Hollywood make that happen. Things are so weird, though, at this point that I saw this tweet. So somebody retweeted a thing from at discussing film, blue check mark. So you know, it's real. That announced an animated Phil Collins biopic is in the works that will take place in the world of Grand Theft Auto. Collins will voice himself. It's almost like, okay, what the fuck is going on?

And I was just like, yeah, no, that is not the strangest biopic that I've heard of of a musician yet this year. That actually sounds tight. I don't even know Grand Theft Auto very well. But I know Phil Collins music, music and I feel like those two things work kind of well together. Yeah, animated Genesis Phil Collins thing is fine. But this is this isn't real, right? I'm guessing because this this can't be it. I don't understand why this would make sense to anyone

who's actually making films to be like, Alright, man, what do you get the biggest video game franchise ever and use that IP to then mash that together with one of my favorite musicians, Phil Collins, man. I mean, that's a sick fucking movie right there. No, it's not true, right? It's not true. It's not true. No, no. OK. Yeah. And I'm the same way as we would be sitting here reporting that it was true. But our writer, J.M. McNabb, was like, guys, this isn't true.

Guys, hey, don't do it. Don't say it's true. But you got my ass. Believable, though. Believable. Yeah. It's all about IP. Yeah, it is.

And also a little bit of, like, not paying actors. And I, you know, I don't know what the state of the animator's strike is right now, but I'm like, you know, a lot of this, you got to imagine these were films that were being made during the writer's strike and the sag strike. So we might be seeing the product of that as well. Yeah. It's such a fun whimsical origin story where Pharrell was just playing with Legos and we were like, oh my God.

I know actually it was to fuck a bunch of people out of as much money as possible. We told Pharrell this was the, this, he probably is going to get the biggest return on it being animated. Yeah. That was weird. He's going to announce he's a billionaire at some point too, right? Could be. I wonder what his net worth is.

I mean, if Selena Gomez just became a billionaire, then why can't Pharrell? I know. I'm so disgusted with... I know you guys talk about, I'm just so disgusted with these stories of billionaires, like a newly minted billionaire. Shut that fuck up. This is so illegal. Why? Are you jealous?

Are you jealous? Because you'll never be one? Well, I make like a third, I don't even know how much I make compared to a million dollars. But like it is, we were talking about it earlier, it is really funny that people who make like good money, like millions of dollars a year, who are fine, who are like taking great vacations and live in wonderful homes, truly we are being told and somehow believe that they are closer to being a billionaire than they are to like, you know, being a McDonald's worker or a Walmart greeter, you know what I'm saying?

Like, and they're like, no, no, you have way more in common with a Walmart greeter than you do with billionaires. And by the way, you're being taxed at a rate that like, anyway, it's just like. You're the ones who should be so mad. And yet you're voting ones who should be so mad. And yet you're voting for Trump at like, people who make like half a million dollars or a million dollars a year, which is like, good, good on you. That's fine. You're a hard worker. But if they'd realize there's a pro publica study that came out that I was just like,

shows you the discrepancy. People who are in that mid tier are paying way more in taxes than the richest and they should be fucking livid about it. Right. And those are the people that they, I think it's like a perfect group to have that because they become the fighters for like the taxes are killing. Yes. Yes. Because they have their homeowners, they have political power, their voters exactly. And it's just, yeah. That Zillow argument is going to be hitting with them. Yeah. Those people love to check their homes value on Zillow.

Babe, Redfin, we just got a curb report or whatever that shit's called. It's like, what your mom house worth now? But yeah, for real, I mean, come on. Yeah, whatever, dude. He's not a billionaire yet. Did you, did you see the Selena Gomez, though? She said when they brought it up, she's like, I'd rather not talk about money. I think it's important. You like you fucking billion. That's such a fucked up answer to give. Like, I think it's in poor taste to talk about the fact that I've become a billionaire.

Like, y'all. Yeah, come on. Now you lose the right to do that once you become a billionaire. It's not important. Exactly. It's not important to be a billionaire. It's important to talk about it. Right. Right. All right.

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