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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode
of the weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop
infotainment laugh stravaganza.
So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined by the head of Represent Us, a good government group
that does work around anti-corruption, changing voting laws, just general trying to fix democracy
stuff for some reason.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, if that's what you want to do with your time, I guess.
You know what we say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
But hey, you know, I guess he's got ideas.
So welcome to the show. It's Josh.
Hey, guys. Josh, what a great intro.
My voice cracked on Josh, but you are.
Welcome, Josh. Yeah, thanks.
Good to see you guys. I'm sorry I didn't bring a song.
I didn't know I was supposed to bring a song.
It's OK. That's OK. That's how we sort of set that's level setting energetically. So now you come you're coming in in a deficit. And now
energy is up here.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. You got a lot of love to do Josh. You guys. It was like it was inspiring. It was inspired.
Thank you. Thank you. Oh, yeah. Anyway, nothing else happening this week. What are you gonna do for Halloween?
Yeah, let's just talk about moodang.
Yeah.
Just talk only about Halloween.
Not anything past Halloween.
No.
Yeah, I mean, I guess maybe a little bit we can,
but we have to, if we have to.
Yeah, we have to.
Josh, you're in Massachusetts
and you said that you are familiar
with some Wu Tang yard signs that I wasn't aware of.
Oh yeah. Presidents are temporary. Wu Tang is forever!
Wu Tang is forever. I like that.
So don't vote, right? Is that basically what we're saying?
I'm not sure that's the message.
I think it's like the American version of keep calm and carry on.
Ah, right.
Oh, it's wild because I'm seeing versions calm and carry on. Ah, right. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, it's wild because I'm seeing versions that are definitely done in the MAGA style,
which I guess makes sense that you some people would have like a visceral reaction to that font
and be like, what the and then like, oh, good, Wu Tang is forever.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good to know. Good to know. Good to know.
I feel like that that trick is not that fun.
Like when somebody has a MAGA hat that like doesn't actually say mega.
It says like made you look dude.
Yeah.
The major look guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
Yes.
So, uh, I love the Halloween season.
I love a Halloween playlist, but I realized that the, you know,
the difficult part of the Halloween playlist is like,
you don't got a lot of songs to choose from.
I love having one on around the house,
but like, okay, it's Monster Mash, it's Psycho Killer,
I put a spell on you, and like maybe something
from Nightmare Before Christmas,
but then you just gotta like repeat.
So, you know, it feels like it's the same five or six songs.
But I think something people do not know
is that Bobby Boris Pickett,
the guy who wrote the Monster Mash,
just kept writing monster songs.
He just kept doing it.
Every couple of years, every time there was a new trend,
he would do another monster song.
There's a Monster Christmas song.
And so yeah, this guy just like has, he's got you.
He's got your back if you like feel like
there's not enough Halloween songs.
So I was kind of going through his catalog
and in the 80s, at the height of hip hop,
he did the Monster rap.
And I believe I-
This is from the 80s?
This is from the 80s, yeah.
It has a very like 80s, you know, hip hop production style.
All right.
Yeah.
At the same time I was, I was assuming it was more recent than that because
80s rap is so, I don't know, like thinking about like the Rodney danger
field rap and like, you know, those like theme rap songs.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
It is very much in that mold rap and and Rodney, Mr. T's rap.
But it's not that bad.
It's not doing the nursery rhyme thing where they're like,
well, my name is Dracula.
I'm here to save.
You know, like they, it's,
it feels like it was written by people
who had listened to rap.
Let's end the light.
I don't want to gas it up too much.
Yeah, 1984 I believe is the day.
Wow, hell yeah.
Year of my supposed birth.
The kites went up without a hitch, then Igor screamed.
I'll pull the switch!
A boat came down, his head went zapped.
Now he's doing the monster rap.
Shock the body, shock the body body.
Shock the body, shock the body body.
Shock the body, shock the body body shock. Oh, now rap for daddy.
I don't know who this is.
Okay, so that part is definitely like, you know, some Sugar Hill gang old rap style.
But then we said the body, like, I think- Shock the body? Shock the body?
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I'm putting this on my kids playlist for Halloween tonight.
And just search for it'll replace all the Christian porn shit in your search history.
Because again, this guy's got so many, he's got one called the Monster Swim.
That's like a parody of beach party songs.
And then at some point in it, he goes, it's better than the mash.
That's to say like, forget about that old one.
We're all doing the monster swim now, it's better.
This one also opens with him saying,
I was still in the lab late one night.
Like, so he's just like, he's just like,
he kind of sounds risant.
Like the character, he's doing character work
because he is getting like more annoyed by Igor as it goes along
Like now he and you were like kind of an old married couple in this song
Like he got mad at him a lot. Wait, there's a chopped and screwed version of the Monster Mash
Wow, he really is doing the hip hop shit.
If he's doing a chop, like a DJ Screws slowed down version.
Was that him?
This is slow.
Yeah, this is on the Bobby Boris Pick It YouTube channel
that Jordan sent through.
Wow.
Like one of the clips is Monster Mash parenthetical
slow and spooky version.
That's good.
God damn.
He knows how TikTok works.
People love the slow down version of famous songs too.
So he's just getting in there.
He's smart. He's smart.
I think he has passed on, but you know.
Okay. Well, whoever's running this YouTube channel,
who put this out two months ago, whoever.
Yeah.
I love just finding a thing and sticking to it.
Just all courage. Yeah. I know. And it's like and sticking to it, you know, just all courage.
Just, yeah, I know.
And it's like creative people.
I think we all, you know, we think a lot about like, Oh, am I being pigeonholed?
Like, should I branch out?
Have I been doing this too long?
But it's like, this guy was just fucking not monster songs, new monster song every
couple of years and like, yeah, I mean, it's admirable.
I like, I like get a lot of inspiration. Find your pigeon hole and just keep drilling.
Yeah.
It's like, it's like being like Ann Geddes or like the Wegman, the photographer who
just takes Weimaraner photos and it's like, I do one fucking thing.
Don't expect anything else.
It's these dogs in clothes.
Okay.
A hundred years from now, this is going to be the one like thing that are, is
artistically respected from our time.
His monster songs.
So like the only really lasting music of their time.
We don't, we don't know much about them.
They're mysterious people, but he knows that their monster, they did, that their
monsters didn't get together for a lot of different kinds of parties.
Right.
And their, and their female deity, Haktua led to this place.
Yes, of course.
What is something you think is underrated?
Dang it. This is going to sound very basic, but seasons.
And I'm sure that's come up on the podcast before it's coming up for me.
I live in New Jersey on the Jersey Shore.
It is as we record Halloween. It's very spooky shock October 31st
It is 80 fucking degrees outside right now Wow
there's a lot of like
global warming hand-wringing to be done about that because this is just like like fundamentally not the
Way that temperatures are supposed to go this time of year, right? And sure I agree with all those reasons
It's bad that we're killing the world,
but also very specifically to me, seasons are important.
We have already taken the fall decorations
and clothing out of storage
and are ready to move the summer decorations into storage,
but we can't right now
because the weather is being so ridiculous.
And it's just turned my entire closet topsy turvy.
And I don't know what to do with myself.
Think of the closets.
Yeah.
Think of the closets, the fossil fuel industry.
Yeah, please.
Yeah, please.
I love, yeah.
I love seasons just because growing up in LA, we only have like two seasons, like
hot and not as hot, right?
So I like, I like wearing sleeves. I like hoods, jackets, pants and the as hot. Right. So I like wearing sleeves.
I like hoods, jackets, pants and the like.
But yeah, seasons.
I do too.
And on a day like today, it's hard not to think back
to my childhood trick or treating in New Jersey
and how grateful you were for the temperature to drop a bit.
So you're not walking around in like full WCW sting makeup in 80 degrees.
Right, sweating it out.
A pillowcase of melting chocolate on your shoulder. It would just be a nightmare.
I will say it's a little chilly. It was a little chilly here this morning so it's not global warming.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so we're good there.
What, Caitlin, is something you think is overrated?
Yeah, so we're good there
What Caitlin is something you think is overrated?
well, I know that it's whatever it national candy corn day, but
Candy corn is it's so overrated
Happen oh my god, this happens every year. We look we lose about 10% of our audience
We're down to about 15 people and I'm sorry, but yeah.
It's just so- To speak my truth, it's so disgusting.
Is it for you disgusting?
Is it underwhelming?
Is it a mix of everything?
No, well, to me, it's not edible.
Speaking of candy that is not edible, I'm eating sugary wax
that looks like shit and
it tastes like shit.
I hate it.
There you go.
Boom.
I mean, your shit is better, is cooler looking than mine, clearly.
The thing, I'm an icing bitch.
I will eat the icing off your cake.
Even if you didn't ask.
Even if you didn't ask, I will.
Just like you shouldn't have left it unguarded like that.
And I think of candy corn as basically hardened icing as opposed to the wax, which does kind of fuck it up.
If you think about it too much.
Either way, it's like, Hey man, what if you think of recontextualize
it as old ass icing?
Yeah.
And that's how I get into it.
Yeah. I like sugar, what can I say?
But it's buttery, it is buttery.
It's buttery sugar.
Maybe I just need to have a bespoke candy corn.
This shit that's extruded from machines by the millions.
No, if someone's like- A nice hand-crafted candy corn.
Yeah, like a hand-rolled one, I'd be open to that
and I'd probably end up offending them
by being like,
this is also shit. It's too bad. You fucking dumb. Yeah. All right. Let's, let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll talk about porn and the upcoming election. We'll be right back. Yes.
Yeah.
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So we want to talk about how money operates in politics these days in
particular with, we did just remember over the break that the elections coming.
That was the thing besides Halloween, there is a presidential and many
other elections coming up.
Hey, are you voting?
In a week.
Are you going to vote, dude?
I mean, I think I've proudly said that I'm undecided.
I'm still making up my mind.
I don't even know if I want to get out there, but I guess I will.
It seems pretty grim out there.
Yeah.
You got to vote, guys.
Oh, come on, man.
All right, Josh said it.
All right.
I'll do it.
You have to.
Come on.
All right.
No. Yeah. We are kidding. I do just said it. All right, I'm done. You have to, come on. All right, no, yeah.
We are kidding.
I do just find it funny the idea that there are still people
who are undecided.
It's really wild, right?
It is shocking.
I think it's just people who are willing or unwilling
to reveal their terrible biases publicly to a certain extent.
Maybe they just really like public opinion polls.
And so they're like,
I'm just putting myself down as, yeah, I'm undecided.
Could try to court me. Yeah, And the New York Times will oblige. They will fly to
your house, throw you a viewing party for the latest debate and
then ask you, huh? So tough choice, huh? Between the
tough choice and, and have the person be like, yeah, I still
didn't hear enough. I'm not sure. Wait, what?
What? You didn't hear enough racism?
The Harris Trump debate?
All right. So one of the goals of this episode,
I've heard so many billionaires getting involved in this race.
I really want to like schoolhouse rock this shit.
Help us understand how $1 dollar in billionaires' bank account, or let's
go 100 million dollars, make it more realistic, in a billionaires' bank account goes from
numbers in account to us not having more effective plans to address climate. You know? Like,
what, how exactly is that working? Right. Cause I think most people, the most of us, we hear like, Oh, this built, like
they're getting in the race to the tune of X million dollars.
And I think most people like it sort of stops was like, okay, so that'll be
used for like ads probably cause air time's expensive, but it, it manifests
in a myriad of other ways.
So how, how should we, how does it manifest in those other ways?
Aside from obviously I think the most visible stuff are like the ads that you see.
Right.
And the ads, so let's just back up to like what they're actually trying to do, which
is convince people to vote one way or one way or the other for one candidate or another.
That's ultimately what the race is about.
And the way that that gets done is ads tell you the story, but also the flyers
getting mailed to your house,
people knocking on your door, ads that chase you around the internet, content that gets created.
I don't know if you get a fundraising emails and emails on your phone, all that text messaging.
All of that costs money. Right? Like that's all.
So that's all right now. It's crazy.
I'm blowing up.
Biden texted me last night.
Yep. I have one from maybe Nancy Pelosi. It's like that. Thanks,
Siri. Yeah, maybe. And so yeah, well, let's just like, let's go
through the how it actually works, right? So who's running
those ads? Who's paying for all that stuff? You've got the DNC
and the RNC, the Democratic Committee and the Republican
Committee that are supporting the candidates, you have the candidates campaigns themselves. So like Harris has a campaign,
Trump has a campaign. And then there's all these things we call independent expenditures,
which are people in groups who are organizing outside the party apparatus to spend money on
campaigns. And those are known as political action committees or PACs. And so you can have a PAC or then there's a super PAC,
which is basically the same thing
with no spending limits at all.
It's just a different denomination.
And the only thing with super PACs
is they're supposed to be totally separate
from the campaign.
But like, if you've got a PAC called the MAGA PAC,
we all know who they're supporting.
There's no right to all separation, right?
Right.
And so these people are raising and spending tons of money and then running
their own ads and doing their own mailers and their own door knocks to get out
support for that candidate.
Mega pack of Donald Trump.
I just Googled that.
Sorry.
Uh, I just wanted to, I'm glad you confirmed.
Are you an undecided voter?
Uh, yeah, I'm a low information undecided voter.
I should clarify.
That's a very specific piece.
Wait, that sounds bad, I think, dude.
Yeah, okay. Maybe not this one.
Oh, that's him. That's Trump. Yeah, I knew it.
I knew it. I just had to Google to make sure.
So this all fits, I think, because we also hear about dark money spending.
There's all this dark money that goes into our elections and things like that.
Most of it in the form of nonprofits
that have opaque donor lists.
So you're like, I think I know who's,
I actually don't know, but they have a lot of money.
What is like, I think looking at,
they're not even just this race specifically,
just generally, I think we've gone from Obama and 08
sort of being like, public funds might be good to be like, who am I kidding, man?
You're going to get destroyed if you're not taking these huge sums of money from outside groups.
What's been the evolution?
I know obviously Citizens United is a Supreme Court decision we talk about a lot because it's like,
hey, you, the corporation have
the same rights as a person to spend as much money on a race.
But was it ever in a good space or is it truly that?
I feel like since my time in politics, that was really like when it just went
completely bonkers when, you know, you're ordained by the highest court in the land
to be like, yeah, man, just let it rip with your dollars however you want.
And you said that those two are not unrelated.
You being in politics and things just going from
bonkers to absolute bonkers.
I think you said off mic, I was smoking on that super pack.
Yeah, you were smoking on that super pack of loud.
Of loud, yeah.
Yeah.
I did turn my hat backwards and a skateboard into frame to say that.
Yeah.
Force pierced your own ear.
Yeah, that's cool.
That's good.
This, I'm sorry, actual question.
Let's just talk about how much money it really is.
We're talking about $5.1 billion this year.
Be a billion with a B going into these super PACs, getting spent on the elections.
And you kind of lost me with the, the, the, sorry, the, has it ever, has it
ever been good or less bad?
Oh yeah.
Right.
Like it's just been different bad.
If you go right back in American history, right?
Like we all know the stories of the smoke filled rooms and like, and that's, yeah,
that's how politics used to happen.
And then smoking on that super PAC dude.
Yeah.
Cupid's exactly smoke filled rooms.
2012, citizens United happens and it takes us from the era of PACs.
So people being able to get together and spend some money on politics with
regulation saying there's a limit to how much you can spend.
So they just ripped the roof right off of it.
So it became unlimited and all billions and billions of dollars start flowing in.
And the problem is we, the American people, can't see where candidates are getting their funding from.
So like it could be coming from overseas.
It could be coming from people with bad intentions.
And we know a lot of it comes from a big industry here in the U.S.
that's trying to stop regulation from moving.
And so they create these big packs and they basically like, let's say I was a lobbyist. And I was like, Hey, Miles, I know you're running for office. And I think it's great that you do. But I've got $100 million in a pack. Great. And I know you got this candidate Jack who's running against you who might be a little bit, you know, he might be a little bit cooler with what we need to have done. And so where do you think that 100 million about smoking?
What do you think that hundred million is? There's all that cool stuff about smoking.
Oh dude, I love whatever you're doing, man.
I love crypto, I love gasoline, I love plastics,
microplastics, so dude, I'm your guy, I'm your guy.
What about an NFT made of fossil fuels?
I'm just saying.
Like, and you said the Supreme Court ripped the roof
right off of it, that actually sounded really cool,
but it's bad what they did.
Yeah.
Ripping the roof right off. Cause I do that sometimes to a party, and when I do it, it's bad what they did. Yeah. Ripping the roof right off.
Cause I do that sometimes to a party and when I do it, it's kind of cool.
But yeah, I bet it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
But you're not taking American democracy down with you.
Okay.
Let's just go back.
That was 2012, right?
And we say, okay, forget it.
There's no more rules about money in politics.
And since then we've seen the two parties move further and further apart, which
means that big money has more control over these two parties that run everything.
We've seen the American people get more and more disillusioned with the political system.
Like we all just kind of take for granted now that like, oh, the whole thing is bought.
Like it's all bought, sold and paid for.
And so like they're never going to do anything for me.
And then we see studies from major universities that actually underscore the same point, which is like, yep, the political system
doesn't work for you regular Americans.
And I think if you tie a line back to 2012,
from 2012 to January 6th of 2021,
you kind of think like, well,
if people are that disconnected and that angry
and that correct that the whole thing
has been bought and sold,
it's no surprise they're gonna show up
being really angry at the Capitol.
Like we've turned it into a breeding ground for that kind of behavior.
Right. Because it's all like it's feels it's like an illusion. People are like, but I
thought this is I'm my the outcomes I'm looking for will be achieved through this
quote unquote political process. But all I'm seeing is like an exacerbation of all the
things that make my life more difficult. And the people that are being enriched look nothing like I will my life looks nothing
like the way there's look. Yeah. And I feel like that just turns into, yeah, apathy or
anger or whatever. And more and more people just, you know, I think we all understand
it is. It's frustrating to see that, but.
Absolutely. If you think about the people that have the money to make a hundred million
dollar donations, they are doing just fine.
They've been doing just fine since 2012.
They're getting more and more and more share of the economy going to them.
And meanwhile, regular Americans are getting completely left behind.
And right now neither party is stepping up to fix it.
I mean, there's a clear difference between the parties. Obviously, we were joking around before, but like clear difference in the two parties. And nobody seems to have the balls
to actually step up and deal with the problems of the political system when they're in power.
Otherwise, you know, maybe like, maybe Obama would have done it when he had power in both houses,
in his first term, but like, it didn't get done.
Because the other part is like the FEC also, it's I remember at that time
when Obama was in office, like there was a chance to maybe put more competent
or people who were more dedicated to enforcing campaigns, finance laws,
like as commissioners at the FEC.
And that just kind of came and went.
And yeah, that's where you kind of I think.
And that's where it becomes easier to see see like, well, what are the differences?
Because at the end of the day, like they're all sort of both, both parties are beholden to playing this sort of game of like, well, I also have to answer to like corporate benefactors, which we've now just kind of, we're taking the mask off.
That's kind of what's going on.
They, it's all about money.
They have the money.
What am I going to do?
Swear off that money and they completely
blown out like in an ad war or something,
because I just don't have the funds to compete.
It's now we're at this place where we're,
I guess, at the bottom already.
Can we get more bottom?
Oh, we can always get more bottom.
Yeah, we can go bottom.
Yeah.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah. The signal is no longer,
the idea of a democracy is
signal goes from people to the politicians or the institutions that can can actually do something about the will of the people and that
Stopped happening like kind of completely in the last
Yeah, I don't want you to guys to get like totally blown up on the internet
So we're gonna talk about the democracy versus Republic thing, right? Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, If you run into this wall before everybody else to say, we're not a democracy, we're a
Republic. We are a Republic that is also a democracy. And I think it's just worth saying that.
And so, yes, what you said, like we're supposed to be able to vote for representatives in our
Republic who are supposed to do the will of the people, but they don't, they do the will of
special interests and the people that are funding those super
PACs and the people that are funding their campaigns.
That's who they have to work for.
Yeah.
If you, if you think about it, like the, the body politic, the metaphor of like a
body, the signal, not getting from the eyes to the brain that moves things.
Because like that would be a disorder.
That person would be in trouble
or they would be really high off that loud pack.
All right.
I'm just picturing somebody like involuntarily punching
themselves in the face.
Yeah.
That feels like the metaphor you're going for.
Yes, exactly.
Because they're high off that super pack of wealth.
Okay.
Yeah, you said something in our last conversation
that kind of put a lot of this into perspective.
Just when I hear dark money, I never really thought about the fact it's only dark to us.
Like we don't know where the money comes from, but the politicians know that that's just like so,
like they have to do the extra work to keep us from knowing who is funding their
campaigns.
That's just so inherently sinister.
If you think about the motivations of somebody who's giving a hundred million dollar donation,
it might be because they have a worldview and they really want to support it.
Like it might be just totally all good, right?
Like I want to see more rights for this group or that group and and I'm just gonna give a ton of money to support it.
The other scenario is that they're piling up all this money
and they're making a phone call to a political consultant
or to a politician and saying,
hey, I got this giant pile of money
that's about to go to either you or your opponent,
and we're gonna make sure that if you don't support
the thing I care about, then you're gonna lose.
And it's that that's so sinister, right? And it's exactly what's
happening with with all this stuff. It's it's folks who are
spending shit tons of money to make sure that they have
political power that is over the power of the voters. It's
terrible. Yeah.
I mean, like, what are some examples that I that people that
kind of go over people's heads and how like, I think most people
were like, yeah, they, they put money behind a candidate and then this person, they get to office,
they're able to find a way to make sure that,
that that donation didn't go completely unheard,
that results in legislation that's favorable to them.
I think that's like one easy way to think about it.
But like, what are some other ways that, you know,
just, just to kind of for people to fully understand
outside of just sort of like these very easy
to understand examples, like what are the more nuanced ways
that this is completely, completely like perverting
the process?
Yeah, so in 2014, Princeton and Northeastern University
did a study together and they looked at 1800 public opinion
polls over the course of 20 years to find out
whether or not the laws that Congress passed
actually represent the will of the people.
And when they plotted all of their data for average American income earners,
they found that when 0% of average Americans want something, there's about a
30% chance that Congress is going to pass that law about that thing.
And they also found that if a hundred percent of Americans want something,
there's a 30% chance that Congress is gonna do it.
That's one of the key takeaways.
Yeah, it's like, it's not good.
It's not great.
No matter what the American people want,
there's about a 30% chance that Congress passes a law.
In other words, we have near zero,
statistically near zero impact on public policy,
we the American people.
They ran the same data for special interests
and wealthy donors and all of that.
And they found that those groups actually do have influence.
And then when you think about it practically,
there's all sorts of issues
that Americans really do agree on
that are just like common sense solutions
to stuff that we care about,
whether it's background checks or abortion,
or there's lots of really difficult issues
that Americans want solutions on. Right.
But the only way that we end up talking about it is this incredibly wild, divisive way. And that
goes right back to the money in politics because they have so much more power when we're all
talking about the extremes rather than common sense solutions.
Yeah, there were just a, there's been some moments in the Biden administration where it felt like he was like,
yeah, man, I want to Jack,
but my hands are tied where it felt like he wasn't talking specifically about Congress.
But it was like-
They said he wasn't talking specifically to me, Jack.
To me. I know that was confusing,
but he called everyone Jack and Mac.
I feel like that is kind of what he's referring, like when you're a
politician, like you're stepping into this system where you are beholden to
these like massive moneyed interest groups.
And you know, the stuff that he was able to get past, for instance, with
regards to like pushing back on just
tech monopolies and the power of the tech industry.
I was reading this New Yorker profile of like billionaires who are donating to Trump's campaign.
And like it's, there are some of these traditionally Democrat donors who switched over because they're like,
well, we just can't live.
Like what Biden has done in this administration is like unconscionable.
It's just like, he's like trying to regulate, you know, completely unregulated
tech power.
So yeah, it just, it feels like, like it's pretty clear how it works. I guess we just don't hear the specifics of it.
Like on a day-to-day basis, it feels like it's one of those things that like
in the mainstream media, they, they won't just be like, yeah, now all that money's
going to Trump because there was pushback against like tech oligarchs in
during the Biden administration, you know? Totally. because there was pushback against tech oligarchs
during the Biden administration.
Totally, the first time ever this year,
the crypto industry is the largest super PAC industry.
Like their crypto companies are giving more to politics
than any other group,
$204 million going into the campaign.
Right.
And yeah, it goes back to the same thing. It's
like they don't sure I guess they don't want to be regulated. But like, isn't it the government's
job to do what's in the best interest of all the people and not just like those that have already
made a ton of money off the system that we have? Yeah. And so what and I think because that's
like all roads lead to well, it's it's just the just obscene influence of money that creates this sort of like legislative gridlock to like to a much more extreme extent.
Because like to your point, whenever people like, well, it's not that easy.
What they're saying is like, well, in this game, if I step out of line, that special interest group, they come in and they primary me and put someone else up to race in the race against
me. That will be much better funded than me. And then I will
lose my seat. And because I want to be the most popular person in
my state, I have to do whatever it takes to stay in office. And
so it's really not so much about what you want, but like, half of
making it seem like I'm acting out the will
of the voter and my constituents and the other half making sure I damn sure do not cross
these donors because that's really, that's who causes the most damage because they can
actually influence the voters more than the voters can influence me.
And look, if you want to get anything done, you have to be in power.
Right.
Right.
And the only way to stay in power is to fundraise. The New York Times had this awesome expose recently where they interviewed
a bunch of members of Congress who were on their way out. So they're retiring this year or whatever.
And one of them talked about in order to get a bill put forward, you have to be on a committee,
right? Otherwise you can't even move a bill. And in order to be on the committee, you have to hit
your fundraising goals for the quarter, which is some ridiculous amount, $250,000 or something. But in order to be the person who decides whether or not the bill
makes it to the floor of Congress, you have to be the chair of that committee, which is an even
higher fundraising goal. And so when we talk about like the system is designed to stop good people
from getting good things done, it's that kind of thing. It's like, no matter how well intentioned
you are, you're going to have to go fundraise from special interest
in order to get anything done.
And if that's who you have to fundraise from,
and then you cross them,
you're cutting off your source of power.
And so until we fix this problem,
it's just gonna keep getting worse.
Okay, so there's a fix.
Yes.
No, it sounds like we're fucked.
I think the episode's over.
Yeah, that was a great, really happy podcast. Happy Halloween, you guys.
All right. Well, thanks for everything.
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Jordan, are you a baseball fan?
You know, I'm not a baseball fan, but I'm really enjoying the World Series vibes around LA.
I was in a restaurant last night where they were showing the game.
LA lost, but just like great vibes.
I don't know, it's really fun as a non-sports fan, but not, I'll clarify.
I'm not a sports ball guy.
I'm not a superb owl guy, just a man who doesn't necessarily follow, follow sports.
But yeah, I don't know.
It's fun when the home team's winning.
It's a, yeah, I'm liking it.
I'm liking being kind of being positive.
Yeah.
In the city for sure.
So on the night of the 29th, three guys, I think it was a group of three, two who
were like the main perpetrators got in just under the wire.
I think all three got kicked out.
Oh, the video I saw was just the two, but anyway, maybe it was just the two, but
they got in just under the wire for like group costumes.
If you don't have a Halloween costume yet, I feel like because one of the
right, if you're in a thr Halloween costume yet. I feel like because one of the-
Right, if you're in a throuple.
We've got your costume.
And you have two Yankee jerseys and a Dodger jersey.
Yeah.
Well, they're wearing sunglasses at night.
Yep.
One of them has, this was my favorite detail.
One of them had a slide glove, like the glove that people wear when
ride running bases that
can only be described as like a oven mitt without the thumb part. Masculine of the most masculine
of it could have. Yeah. Yeah. One of the had that for no reason. Like I've seen, I've seen people go
to games with baseball gloves because you are hoping to catch a foul ball, but like the slide
mitt is just, I guess, announcing your intention to storm the field.
Yeah.
But love their whole energy,
wearing sunglasses at night,
the guy who had eyes like two pisholes in a snowbank,
to quote my mom when I came in,
extremely fucked up one time.
I'll say the guy,
the main dude in this altercation, I would
say his look is adult Rizzler. Yeah, yeah. Adult Rizzler if Tim Robinson was playing
the adult Rizzler. Yeah. Oh yeah. So many people have been posting, I think you should
leave memes to be like, it was whether it's the phone one with him like this. Like, yeah,
so many facial expressions like, yeah, there he is.
So what happened for people who aren't watching and aren't up on it?
I made the World Series may well be over by now because game five is tonight,
but it game for fly ball was hit into like right.
The right field bleachers and Mookie Betts went and made a spectacular catch.
And a guy who was there in the crowd just grabbed his glove and held him there like a loft while his friend like held Mookie Betts' wrist, the first
guy just pried the ball out.
Like that was the rules.
Yeah.
And yeah, it was, it was a very, very weird,. And yeah, it was it was very very weird like it was that
it was immediately called like fan interference and like the home team who they're rooting for was rolled out and
Then they were kicked out. Yeah
But for one game
For just crazy. Yeah, Steve Bartman had to exile to God knows where.
Yeah.
Just being a fan.
These guys are fans who touched a ball right as they were about to catch it.
And like hurt the Cubs chances of winning the world series.
And like, but this one, I guess, because it's like, yeah, fuck them.
I think that's really why it feels, I think justified amongst fans.
And like, I was texting some of my friends and like,
dude, if I was 3-0 down,
I would be doing some fucking toxic shit, I think, out there.
Right, find your worst fans,
get them as close to the game as possible.
Yeah, I think it also speaks to the bitterness that,
like, you know, just sports fans experience constantly,
just simmering rage.
I should be out there. I should be out there.
I should be out there catching the ball and I'm not.
Yeah, just a new strain of dirt bag just dropped, I feel like.
I remember the Steve Bartman moment,
and this was over a decade ago,
like Miles was saying,
a Cubs fan caught a ball that would have been caught by the home team.
He, a lot of people say he cost the Cubs and he had an iconic look because he was like
wearing headphones and a turtleneck for some reason.
And everybody that year, like there were so many good Bartman costumes.
It was, it was such a good, such an iconic look that I expect to see some Yankee dirtbag
fans out there,
uh, this year, but yeah, like you said, he's only banned for game five.
We got season ticket.
A little lenient.
Yeah.
When I saw these guys, my initial reaction was I bet these guys still use the
nicknames they were given in high school.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I bet these guys still call each other like dump truck or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
They're like, Hey, where's bag of donuts?
Donuts fish the fucking ball out of Mookie Betts mitt, bro
The fucking I love the quotes from the this the fucking deranged dude. Are there clothes? I missed the
They were they found you'll never guess Jordan where they found him after he was kicked out. Oh my God. Do I get a three guesses?
Nearby.
Across the street.
No.
Oh my God.
He rode in on their shoulders.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He said he had previously discussed with his friend that if a ball comes
their way, we're going to D up.
I patrol that wall and they know that.
Oh no.
Oh, this guy's he's made it his fucking thing. He's like, it's D up. I patrol that wall and they know that. Oh no.
Oh, this guy's he's made it his fucking thing.
He's like, it's my thing.
I patrol the wall.
Yeah.
My God.
I wonder who he's voting for.
Yeah.
Look at why I patrol the wall is a very interesting description of him getting
shit faced and pretending he's on the Yankees.
Yeah.
But okay.
Right.
I pay to be there, but I do a job. I do pay them, but I, I'm thees. Yeah. But okay. Right. Yeah, patrol the wall. I pay to be there, but I do a job.
I do pay them, but I, I'm the wall patrol guy.
But I-
Okay.
Okay.
He's not in an official position.
I patrol my neighborhood too.
Oh boy.
Yeah, Jesus Christ.
Okay.
We're out of here fucking.
What other patrols are you on, sir?
But yeah, I, like I said, quote, I know when I'm in the wrong and as soon as I
did it, I was like, boys, I'm out of here.
Well, that shows, that shows some maturity and reflection.
A little bit, yeah.
He knew where the line was.
If only Tony Hitchcliffe would say, boys, I'm out of here.
That's right.
Boys, I know when I'm in the wrong and I sure fucked up.
See you later.
I grew up with myself.
Yeah.
I also feel like every member of the Yankees and like this group of fans,
they all look like they leave the stadium and put on NYPD uniforms.
Like they've written, like the guy who was like one of the heroes of the game last night
for the Yankees has like a big mustache.
It's just like, that's what they're going for.
That's the only facial hair you can have as a Yankee. Like that, that shit is so like
tightly regulated for being a Yankee, which is also very weird. But yeah, I feel like
half of those players are about to be like those scenes where like undercover cops who
are usually wearing Yankee jerseys pull out the badge that's on a necklace. I'd be like,
Hey bro, whoa, whoa, NYPD asshole. Like, is that, do you have those underneath?
Maybe.
All those Punisher stickers with the Blue Lives Matter flag on them.
Exactly.
That they pull that out when the next time Mookie Bets has a fly ball next to the wall.
All right.
Let's talk haunting houses guys.
Haunted houses, or as I call them haunting houses
Mm-hmm. It turns out a lot of Americans believe in ghosts 61% more than is gonna vote for any presidential candidate and
It's like it's actually a legal issue because yeah, this is interesting
Yeah
so there a person once sued because they bought a haunted house, the house and,
and the local court, and it went all the way up to the Supreme court ruled as a
matter of law, the house is haunted.
That in a, in a decision that's become known as the ghostbusters ruling.
Right.
I assumed this was in the thirties at the latest.
The 1830s.
It was in, it was in the nineties that somebody bought a house and then was like,
whoa, whoa, whoa, you didn't tell me it was haunted and was able to get their money
back because they hadn't completely revealed the degree to which it was haunted.
Like the person who owned the house was like, this shit is haunted as hell.
The fucking old sea captain visits me at night.
And then when the buyer came, they're like, yeah, it's pretty cool.
It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.
And then so it wasn't, it was only because that owner had out in the open been like,
yeah, this shit is haunted, baby.
That they're like, oh, well, that's just so funny.
As a matter of law, the house is haunted.
We sent a judge down, he got scared.
Spent one night and their hair was standing up from such a fright.
But it's basically spawned a cottage industry of psychics and exorcists
who work with real estate agents to sort of get the haunted houses cleared.
Yeah, sure.
So this is, this is literally a Nathan for you sketch.
It is now just a real business.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I was checking out 20.
That's the first thing I thought of.
And I checked her Twitter.
She hasn't posted since then.
Oh, the haunted realtor from Nathan.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
She's like all my, what was the bus bench ads?
Like all my house are 100% ghosts, ghost free.
I mean, that lady was just fucking ahead of the game.
She should jump back in.
Now it's apparently a legitimate business.
Yeah.
It's a, it is a legit business.
And legit in that people give you legit money
for a pseudo scientific thing.
But they just come in and they're like, um, so good news and bad news.
Good news.
Uh, the spirit of the murdered Victorian child has been sent back to hell.
Uh, but you do have black mold.
I'm sorry.
That's going to be pricey.
Oh yeah.
That's no problem.
Yeah.
We'll see if we can get some concessions on that.
Um, bring the price down a little bit, but yeah.
But yeah, four states have real estate disclosure laws that specifically
mentioned paranormal activity.
I love that.
Yeah.
I love it.
You have to tell people and some real estate agents actually like bundled the service.
There's a Toronto psychic realtor, Larry Medina.
Wow.
I just like that.
There's like, yeah, fuck it.
Fine.
Like, oh yeah, I can actually, so I know you're worried that the house is haunted.
I can actually see ghosts.
Oh, thank God.
There is a ghost here.
I'm going to talk to them though.
And like, we'll sort it out.
I'm going to let them know.
I'm going to, I'm going to find them a nice little bungalow to move into.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can, and I can get them to another place if you want of your choosing.
That's an extra fee, but yeah.
Anyway, well, let's talk, let's talk, let's talk offline about this.
They have looked into whether this would dissuade young people who
don't have affordable housing.
And it turns out young people don't give a shit over half.
Yeah.
Because they're like, is it affordable?
Yeah.
Millennials in Gen Z would live in the goddamn Overlook Hotel if it was remotely Yeah. Yeah. Millennials in Gen Z would live in the goddamn Overlook Hotel.
If it was remotely affordable.
Yeah.
100%.
100%.
I mean, it's also interesting to think like that the idea of the haunted
house is like from an actual, like just old big Victorian homes, like be going
abandoned, like in the 20th century.
So like, there was just this visual of being like, that's from a bygone era, but
now we've all collectively been like, these are haunted homes.
There was a real estate panic called the panic of 1893, which was a prolonged
American economic collapse that led to foreclosure and abandonment of property.
And it disproportionately affected over
large newly built homes and at that time, the style of home that was popular was
Victorian homes like the Adams family, the Bates house and psycho, like those
houses that are basically what you picture when you picture a haunted house.
They were just all newly built when there was this real estate implosion.
For the first two decades of the 20th century,
they were being left to rot.
Everybody was like, oh,
the old spooky manor on the hill.
That's where a lot of our images of haunted houses come from.
Which I don't know.
I wish they gave discounts.
We're in a world now where there's like, there's old Goths.
Like there's old Goths who are probably buying houses.
You can charge them more for that.
Right.
Exactly.
Like somebody needs to come and take the opposite side of this and be like, I
can get you a haunted house or like, wouldn't that just be like, or in a place that has these disclosure laws, like you can just like con your way into a cheaper house.
And you're like, Oh, this place is actually fucking haunted. And they didn't say anything. So like, we got to knock the price down. And it's just haunted. I think what this what let's call it like 10,000. Yeah. Okay, great.
10,000? Yeah. Okay. Great. Can I, can I use that to like get out of shit at an Airbnb maybe, you know, like how Airbnb is kind of hitting you now with the stuff where it's like, oh, you didn't strip the bed sheets. That's $200.
I could be like, well, it was haunted. I had to run out.
Yeah. And you didn't disclose.
Yeah. I couldn't weirdly strip the bed and load the washing machine like you want me to for some reason.
Right. But I'm paying you?
Okay. I'm sorry I didn't separate the colors from the whites in that load that I left in the...
Sure, yeah. I'm sorry. Right. I'm sorry there was a towel on the towel rack anyway.
Yep. Well, that's a five-mom.
But it was haunted. I had to run out of the bathroom because I saw...
Well, now I have to charge you a $150 cleaning fee for that air and towel
Would you guys move into a haunted house? Yeah, because I don't fuck I've never
Okay. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think I'm I'm not a ghost believer either
So I think it'd be and you know fun story for for cocktail parties and such. Yeah, exactly
Yeah, I mean, yeah worst-case, you have proof that there's like some
weird spiritual realm if, if it, the house is indeed haunted, you know?
Yeah.
It's like there's bigger things going on than your living situation.
Also, when I, cause like, when I was a kid and like, I remember my
grandparents house in Japan was real creaky.
And as a kid, I'm like, mom, it's ghost.
She's like, it's an old house and the temperature is affecting the wood.
So you're hearing it's like alive.
So it creaks.
And I was so scared that I just held onto that for dear life to be like, always
dismiss, like I don't give a shit now, whatever I hear it's like, that's just
the fucking house, what am I going to do?
This isn't some ghost shit going on.
I grew up in a house, uh, next to in Dayton, Ohio.
I lived next to this house where somebody had like killed themselves recently.
And it was like right next to the driveway where I would like shoot hoops late at night.
And like, I was telling my friend about that one time that like, yeah, right there, that house, like we, that guy, like a guy killed himself.
Like what our neighbor had been like this kid had mowed as long and been the last one to see him.
And then like the light flickered and the, like, I swear to God, I was like two
steps that I took before I was like in the kitchen hiding under the table.
Right.
So even though I logically don't believe in ghosts, I also recognize my ability to like one of the explanations is like people have
like unconscious open, like open unconscious minds.
And I feel like I have a mind that is like willing to just let anything in.
Cause I don't doubt stupid.
I don't doubt when people are like wild shit happen.
I'm like, I told perception is reality.
Sure.
I just know my mind is totally closed off to that shit.
So I'm, I think I just, I've shut down the channels that would maybe even perceive
that maybe because I'm so scared.
Yeah.
You know?
And that's why, cause ghosts are so real.
I don't know.
And then when I told my parents, you know, I was out there shooting
baskets with my neighbor, Fred, and like this happened.
They were like, Jack, Fred died three years ago.
Right.
Fuck. You're not. Oh my God.
That basketball hoop burned down 10 years ago.
What were you throwing the ball at?
Just have a pile of ashes in my hand.
Yeah. Me, your mom, I passed away.
I'm not even alive.
I'm a ghost.
This story is not really holding together guys. What a twist. This isn't even Dayton, Ohio. This is a Bubba Gump shrimp code.
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