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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist.
These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop
infotainment laugh stravaganza.
So without further ado, here is the weekly Zeitgeist.
Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
a very talented zine maker and podcast host.
Yes.
One of the hosts of You Are Good,
a feelings podcast about movies.
It's Alex Steele.
Hello.
Hello. It's a pleasure to be back.
Thanks for having me. So wonderful having you. Great having you. Hello, it's a pleasure to be back.
Thanks for having me.
Great having you.
Great having you.
Great having you.
On this very momentous day on the internet.
Love the big internet day.
Big internet day.
Yeah, big internet day.
Yeah.
How are you doing otherwise?
I'm doing okay.
I'm so excited to be here.
You mentioned You Are Good, my feelings podcast about movies.
I just launched a new show called The OC Again, which is why I know about Peter Gallagher.
Uh, okay.
That's why you got gals on the brain.
That's why I got gals in the brain. He, uh, yeah, we're the OC again, which is a
rewatch show with, uh, that I launched with my friend Nico Stratus.
Okay. That's funny. You're taking it from one up to however, whatever the last episode was?
Yeah.
Last episode backwards.
Memento style.
We talk about the, like Nico is a music critic and so we talk about the show maybe 20% of
the time and we're largely just talking about 2003 through 2007.
So yeah.
Yeah, you remember.
You know it.
California.
California.
Phantom Planet.
On the Phantom Planet. Exactly.
And then one other, I'm so sorry to plug so
fast.
Also, I have a small record
label called Hi a Culture.
And we just released our first record by a musician named Carolyn Kendrick.
It's called Each Machine.
And if you're in LA,
there's a show on the 15th in Pasadena.
That's very cool. If I had those two things to plug,
I wouldn't have even made it this long.
I would have interrupted me while I was introducing the show.
I've been waiting 41 years to release a record on the label,
so I appreciate my discipline here.
So yeah, thank you.
Well done. Awesome.
What is something from your search history?
I was just reading about the Hot Assessant a lot.
That's pretty much the main thing I've been looking at is reading people's reactions
reading
just scrawling just saw the stuff about like what tweets he was like in and
So, what are we what are you learning like give us the kind of profile that you've
Everyone's like so confused by his politics because they're all over the place.
But to me, I'm like, this is the new type of person
that everybody is now, which is a mix and match libertarian.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't like all of it.
I like this part.
A little bit of that.
You got a point over here.
Yeah, right, right.
Yeah, when his only confirmed statement to the police was like calling the guy a parasite,
which I'm like, that has very strong libertarian vibes to me a little bit, you know, where
he's like, he's just feeding on the people, just get out of the way.
Yeah, totally. Which, you know, I like to see where we overlap.
I don't like parasites though, generally. So that's something. Yes, I don't like the government because they're doing a bad job.
Yeah. Well, I don't aspire to read Ayn Rand. I also haven't read Ayn Rand. So in that way,
we're basically the same person. Yeah, same.
Yeah. Blake, same. Yeah.
Blake, what's something you think's underrated?
So we make a full pot of coffee in the morning, my wife and I.
And then we put the rest of it in the fridge
to have iced coffee later in the day
as to not waste the rest of the coffee.
So that's a little, I don't know if that's advice, a tip.
A little life hack?
A little, hello?
What?
What?
What?
What did you just say?
Justin, take this part of the show up.
Dude, are you for real?
You really do that?
Yeah, edit that.
You really do that?
So you just said, can you repeat what you just said?
You put the, well, you make a pot
and then the part you don't drink,
you store in the refrigerator to drink later
to have ice coffee?
Yes, but I'm kind of zeroing in on what Jack said,
calling it a life hack, which is a term that I think
I just made up.
There's a little bit of money to make coffee.
Yeah, yeah, okay, all right.
Justin, come back in right here.
Can we come back in?
Come back in right here.
Come back to me.
Oh, that's cool, that's a cool idea.
I love coffee.
Don't talk to me until I have my coffee,
you son of a bitch.
Wait, do you drink a whole pot too throughout the, like you guys pot set thing off?
Do you take a whole pot to your head?
Yeah.
Tea pot, dome.
Yeah, no pot to the dome.
We take a pot to the dome.
We go full pot.
From my California history freaks?
We'll go through the whole, so I have, yeah, we'll actually go through the whole thing
throughout the day.
Maybe a little bit leftover, but yeah, she'll have two mugs. I'll have two mugs and we'll put them in our mugs. Yeah.
Explains a lot. No, no, no, no, no, no. What is that? What did you tell him?
Nothing. Uh, it's-
Well, see, we're- Well, now we have to do so much more of this show and I won't be able to do it
with this dynamic right now.
I'm just saying you're like, you have like an energy about you that's like full pot of coffee.
Blanked up I'd say.
Yeah, geeked up.
And Miles was saying he thought it was cocaine.
And I was like, I think this guy's just fucking drinking
coffee, just doing a whole fucking pot to the dome.
I think he's full pot to the dome.
Full pot dome dude, call Warren G. Harding.
I opened up my Truvia box this morning.
What the box?
The what?
Which I have engraved.
Wait, what?
Hold on, what is a Truvia box?
And the Truvia packets were just white,
just clear packets with a white substance in it.
And I've been putting that in my coffee.
And I think I'm gonna have a heart attack.
Oh, you said Truvia.
Yeah.
What'd you think I said?
I heard trivia.
I heard trivia.
Like what's a Truvia box? I was like, well I think that's a trivial comment. It sounds What do you think I said? I heard trivia. I heard trivia. I heard trivia.
Like what's a trivia box?
My trivia box.
I was like, well I think that's a trivial comment.
It sounds like something you'd have
where you'd be like, ooh, that's a bit of trivia for later.
Cause I can't converse and carry on a conversation
where I have to take out a card.
Take out a trivia box.
Visazas.
Blake's frantically sifting through a box full of, uh,
Did you know Napoleon was five foot two?
I'm not even asking questions. I'm just facts.
Did you know this fact?
Did you know?
Did you guys know this?
George Washington was the first president of the United States of America.
Where do they come up with this shit?
That can't be right.
This stuff has some wacky stuff in here.
So Blake, I'll tell you what I do and you tell me why it's wrong.
All right.
I just leave the coffee.
My coffee pot turns off automatically cause I'm a baller.
Wow.
Yeah.
And then when I come back to my coffee pot, I will take that coffee.
I'll pour it over ice.
It will already be fairly cold, but room temp.
It will already be fairly cold, but- Room temp.
Every time I've talked to somebody in the food service industry, they're always very
focused on you have to get the food out in this 10-minute window, and when it falls out
of that window, it's, generating bacteria. It sounds like you're making smart decisions
with regards to food safety and I'm not.
Is that kind of the thinking?
So yes, I do.
Around your life hack?
I do use a very dirty knife to stir it
and chop the ice that I put into it.
So I have an ice block in my fridge
and I use just my poultry knife.
I use it on that.
No, but I will actually,
I will often forget to put it in the fridge
and then just do what you do, Jack.
And it has yet to affect me in any negative way.
I just feel like I'm strong.
Yeah, I haven't had a solid bowel movement in 10 years.
Not a solid one.
Not a solid one. Not a solid one.
No, yeah.
No, no, no.
A lot of unsolid.
Yeah. Whatever the scientific word is for that.
What's something you think's overrated?
French fries.
Overrated French fries.
Whoa.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wow.
I'm definitely a hash brown person.
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
Okay.
Like I would prefer a hash brown over. Wow. Wow. Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Okay.
Like I would prefer a hash brown over a french fry.
Oh, that's a okay.
Okay.
I'm I just not a potato like potatoes are great.
But like the form of the french fry fry, I feel like you it's done.
It's not doing as much.
I also prefer a sweet potato fry.
You know what I mean?
Like there's something more exciting.
Wow. Yeah. Well, I'm mean? Like there's something more exciting. Wow.
Yeah.
Well, I'm on a-
Miles and I are rarely speechless, but-
Yeah.
Are you a-
Well, you eat french fries.
Wow. So sorry, y'all.
You don't like sauce?
Because french fries cover such a broad gamut of potato presentations.
Do you like them crispy?
Do you like them soft? No, you like them crispy? Do you like them soft?
No, I like them crispy.
But I feel like because you get so many different versions, right?
It's like you got to know where you're going to know what kind you're going to get.
Whereas a hash brown, if it's floppy, something's up.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like there's only one way to do it.
I get so many crispy hash browns though.
You know, like at diners, you get like that just soft ass thing
and it's just like, there'll be like one part
that's got like a little crunch to it.
The crisp, but then everything else,
I'm just like, I don't know.
I would have taken a side of McDonald's fries here
instead of this hash brown.
Well, that's like, if you're going to do French fries,
I feel like McDonald's fries are the-
That's your, okay.
Yeah.
So you'll allow me a side of McDonald's fries.
Oh, I'll allow it.
Okay.
I'll allow it, but if people are like,
do you want fries for the table?
I'll be like, can I just check to see what else is there?
Yeah. Yeah.
I get that.
Yeah. I feel that.
All right.
Let's, Miles and I are fucking.
I'm like, I'll have my own fries for over here for the disgusting people.
How are your hash browns?
Maria, Miles prefers soft fries.
Really prefers mushy fries.
Yeah. Well, I like Mac on mashed potato sticks.
That's what I like. I like them floppy.
He's a sicko.
See how I'm speechless. I'm
Yeah, I know. Sometimes we both had to speak our truth to get the same. Yeah, we just realized
we're antithetical. Antithetical potato takes for this one. But hey, it is what it is. And yet we
still can move forward and have a civilized conversation.
We'll see. You know, It is. And yet we still can move forward and have a civilized conversation.
We'll see.
You know?
We'll see.
Yeah, yeah, it might come out later on from here.
We'll find out.
Yeah, I just start taking shots like subliminally.
I'm like, yeah, that's cool.
Sound like a crispy ass take to me.
What?
Just like, you're just getting soft.
Yeah.
No taste whatsoever.
No flavor.
Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Mm-hmm.
And yeah, I mean, there've been conspiracy theories swirling around
the shooting of Brian Thompson for a while now,
even though didn't it just happen less than a week ago? One week ago? Yeah. Yeah. around the shooting of Brian Thompson for a while now,
even though didn't it just happen less than a week ago?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's been one week literally, last Wednesday.
Yeah, that's wild.
I had missed this one because I don't watch CNN
because I'm fucking weird, I guess.
Fucking loser, dude.
They say the dopest shit on there.
So they had their expert on law enforcement on, and he claimed that Thompson may have
hired a hitman to bump him off for insurance purposes, their law enforcement person said
on CNN.
That's so...
He said, it's a very good chance.
The body is still warm.
He said, like, yeah, I just want to read this because it's such good, also just like dumb cop talk.
He said, it's a good chance.
It's a very good possibility with these new photographs that is, that they already know who he is.
It's a very good chance of that.
But I also want to say something else that I know these criminal investigators are looking into as it relates to motive.
There have been times when people have orchestrated their own demise
for certain reasons.
We know that.
And database is like, wow, I'm not saying this is the case, but as an
investigator, I like for insurance purposes, absolutely, absolutely.
Insurance purposes, you know, Maybe they fear some type of investigation
down the road. Maybe they don't want to leave their family. Just immediately, as disrespectful
as the internet has been of this man's death, this is wild for the police to come on and
be like, I don't know, maybe he killed himself, Doug. You ever think about that?
We didn't find him yet.
Must be something crazy.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It ain't us.
Can't be Occam's razor if the cops are bad at their job.
It's gotta be something crazier.
Yeah.
Don't look at how many murders we solve.
Don't look at those statistics.
Your Delco accent a little bit.
Or?
Yeah, I was trying, I was going like a little philly.
I don't know.
That's just, anytime I hear a cop trying to like sound smart with like a very good possibility
of the perpetrator in the case had orchestrated himself into the position.
Self-orchestrated.
Yeah.
Like a one-man band.
I thought this was interesting because it felt like the conspiracy theories didn't come
out as fast and as loose as they usually do with things like this.
Because everybody was just like, oh yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, totally.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Usually we're trying to put our own reasons on top of the thing and on top of the news story, on top of the motives of
the people in the news story. And in this case, it's just like, oh, he was going to expose the
pedophile ring or whatever. And yeah, time. Really, it seemed like people were just like,
it took like a few days and then a few days later, now there's conspiracy theories.
Yeah, now that he's caught or now if it even is him because there's definitely a large group of people who are like Dave
This is just a Patsy
Here's what I saw a lot of yesterday is not that he's a Patsy it's that he's CIA
What because yeah, uh-huh. Go on.
Hold on.
I'm here.
I'm here.
I'm listening.
Okay, okay, okay.
He's CIA.
He's not the guy.
They're using him as the guy, and he's willingly consenting to be used as the guy because
he's CIA, and they're trying to make it look like they found the guy and they are on top
of it.
And the reasoning that he's CIA is that he went to Penn, right?
And they recruit a lot of people for the CIA from Penn.
Yeah, Ivy League. Sure.
And he's got some. It's like somebody he's related to is a Republican politician.
And yeah, his cousin, Nino Mangione, he's a Maryland state assembly member for
District 42A.
I've already done the digging.
He's also Trump's regional chairperson for the last campaign, it turns out.
The most elaborately, Italianly named people.
Nino, Luigi Mangione.
It is, you can see the wing is like twisting themselves into knots because
they're like, well, what do you mean? He's like a rich white guy. Right. What are we
supposed to do with that?
And his cousin's a full on Trump or like fully down for the whole thing.
Yeah. So they're kind of like, what do you
They're like, let's leave his cousin out of this. He's an innocent bystander. Let's not
look too deeply. Imagine if that guy was a Democrat. It's a little bit horseshoe theory of like, well, everybody hates the healthcare companies.
Yeah.
Like leftists hate them and Republicans.
But not just leftists.
Right. And right-wing people hate them because they hate the government and libertarians.
When Ben Shapiro did his big rant about like, this is how sick the people on the left are,
that they're cheering this guy on.
There were so many people commenting, being like,
hey man, that's not just the left, that's us too.
Ben Shapiro, shall we watch?
This is an L-take from you, Ben.
Yeah. L-take, dog.
I do just want to go.
It's just so wild to me.
I don't know.
We talk about it a lot, that police may be a bad idea.
Just the fact that that guy just came up with that theory
to make himself sound smart,
and now guys with guns who can end your life
are trying to prove that theory correct.
That's how policing works in this.
It's just like, well, we said that,
and so now we're gonna try and make it.
Yeah, he had to do some status quo improv though too, like, well, we said that and so now we're going to like try and make it so. What?
Yeah.
He had to do some like status quo improv though too, because he couldn't be like,
well, I'd imagine based on how our healthcare system is, I mean, you've,
you've anybody who's tried it.
I mean, you would get fucking mad out your damn mind to probably want to kill
somebody like, and he had to be like, uh, so yeah, that's probably like, could
be a hit man, uh, tried to off himself.
Probably something like that. Uh, could be one of those New Jersey drones that flew over the Hudson.
One of the rivers.
It went from like this guy's John Wick.
Nobody knows who he is and will never know anything about him, including his motive,
which seems pretty obvious, but could be something else.
Right.
And then like two days later, it's like, no man, this guy fucking hates the healthcare system
because he had a spinal injury.
Right.
And people were saying too, they were like,
it's because he had the spinal injury,
he's like an active, ab-having guy,
and then he suddenly can't do anything active.
He's like in bed, gotta think about stuff
for months at a time.
And then people are like, His bone banded by his abs? He saw his abs. Well, they were like, and then he did like in bed, got to think about stuff for months at a time. And then people are like, he saw his abs.
He saw his abs.
Well, they were like, and then he did a bunch of, he did a bunch of psychedelics
and saw, you know, saw himself inside a bullet going out of the gun.
This isn't me.
This is what's going to end the psychedelic, the push to legalize psychedelics.
And it is like the right-wing people can't get mad because they love guns so much. So
it is kind of like, all right, well, he's a vigilante shooter, like took the law into
his own hands. We like historically love that.
Yeah. Guns don't kill people. Italian guys kill people. Okay. It does feel like, is he the only Italian guy who hasn't watched and taken to heart
the lessons of Godfather?
He didn't know to just drop the gun right away?
Get the cannoli out of there?
Take the cannoli?
Mm-hmm.
Well, also when Michael hits the judge and the captain of the other family, like in the restaurant, he shoots
them both and they tell him to just drop the gun right where he is and then walk out.
Nobody will be looking.
Yeah.
Why didn't he study the history of his people?
Thank you.
By watching The Godfather.
It's called science, brother.
Yeah.
Oh, you haven't seen Ken Burns, The Godfather?
The Godfather?
The Godfather is a big Christmas movie for reasons I don't fully understand, but it's
a beautiful Christmas time.
It feels like a reason for the season, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
God and fathers.
God and the father.
So some of the conspiracy theories that have happened, some people suggested he actually
wanted to get caught. Everybody wanted him to be a Batman villain,
and he had done some of the work for them by writing on the bullets already.
Their theory is he went to that McDonald's
knowing that that McDonald's employee was going to recognize him.
He should have taken ballet so he could have danced away.
Yeah, exactly.
Like the Joker.
Just a fleet of foot like the Joker.
But yeah, in that movie, the Joker in The Dark Knight intentionally gets caught.
Also in every movie that came out after The Dark Knight, that happened.
That's also why this guy's politics aren't that confusing to me.
Because it's like, yeah, he's like some guy who saw the dark night.
Saw the dark night when he was like nine.
And was like, well, my personality is completely changed.
I want to watch the world burn.
Right.
Yeah.
Ooh, I'm like that guy.
Ooh, I'm going to get this versus outfit.
So that idea that he was caught on purpose was validated when it surfaced that Mangione
posted a countdown clock on YouTube counting down to, quote, the truth along with the message,
if you see this, I'm already under arrest. And it's very compelling. I heard about this. I was like, oh, and it seemed to be counting down to today's date, December 11th.
Uh, and then some asshole on the internet had to go and analyze the
timestamps and figure out that the video was uploaded to YouTube after he was arrested.
Oh, it should have gone.
I mean, that one's such,'s not even a good one, though.
I get that they're just they want to chum the waters to get people to be like,
but I'm like, they could have been it could have hit harder than that.
Should I just link to this episode of the Daily Zeitgeist? Exactly.
Oh, well, guerrilla marketing.
Here we go.
But let's get to 286, bro.
Let's get the fucking brass tacks. All right
I'm just trying to see it like I want to kind of spread the theory that like it could have been me, you know
Oh wait, yeah, can we get do you like a hoodie or something? You can
Wait, can you smile for us?
Since the video episode? Oh, yeah.
Well, OK. Halloween costume.
He has a better smile than me, but no, no, that was chill.
No, it's good.
You had such a good smile that he lowered his mask to just like do it one time
when he was actively trying to hide his identity.
That's where people were really getting anti-Italian with it.
They were like, oh, the man couldn't stop himself from flirting.
This horny hot man.
Yeah. And I mean, he also couldn't fucking pluck his eyebrows. That is my one. If he
was intending to stay on the run, just pluck your eyebrows. That is the one thing everybody
knows.
Or he should have had a beard. He should have had a beard first and then shaved it. People
were saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was unfortunately pretty easily identifiable by his beautiful smile.
I know, just like that million dollar smile.
He was an incredibly hot officer.
Even after his politics have come out as being confusing, because everybody I knew was thirsting
for him.
They were like hot leftist assassin.
And then when it came out, he's like hot libertarian assassin.
And people did not stop their saying they were like.
Yeah, I already got the L.
We're like, at least not a Republican.
Like, I can work with that. I can work with that.
I've never seen people so united on something.
Yeah, ever.
It really feels like the Internet is in in the first two weeks of a relationship
where they're like...
Yeah.
They're just like overlooking so much.
Normally, I feel like the libs would be like,
oh no, violence isn't the answer.
Like, we can't kill somebody who killed this person
and he has a family that you left behind.
But it seems like everyone's kind of like so fed up with everything.
Yeah.
They're just like, yeah, fuck it.
This guy was killing people.
Josh Shapiro was like, did the thing.
It's like, we don't, we don't solve things with cold blooded violence.
And you're like, the state does.
And I saw a little bit of that on Reddit of people being like, oh, you know, you
left behind children and stuff, but the overall, like even people that normally would be like,
no, we can't be killing people are like, you know what, this guy killed a lot of people.
Yeah, no, there is there's always that sort of caveat attached for sure. I think,
I think for most people, you know, to look at it in a vacuum, just be like, this guy was just shot on the street.
What the hell's going on with our world?
Completely leaves out the part of the actual human suffering dimension.
People seem aware of, no,
the healthcare guy is a mass murderer.
Right.
Yeah.
Or yeah, exactly.
And a public figure.
If you're going to be a mass murderer,
say it with your chest.
a mass murderer, say it with your chest.
Not maybe not a good system when like the thing, the, the only way that people have seen the head of a mass murdering corporation have any come up and says by
somebody just like, you know, buying a gun and shooting them on the street.
It does also feel like it's like a little bit of a turning point where people are so
fed up.
It feels a little bit like, I was all week, I was like, this like, Ferdinand types of
like, what's going to happen now?
Yeah, yeah.
It does feel like this is what yeah, like this is the same sentiment that causes revolutions.
It's just, I don't, it feels like we have a different world with like social media.
Like instead of.
Right.
It just feels like, okay, everyone's tired of living in fear under the thumb of like
horrible, disgusting CEOs who should be afraid of the people and aren't.
And now They seem afraid
You know, I'm like trotting his child out now because a human shield
Yeah, bring in one of his children you never seen with the children ever use ever
That has to be an actor because I don't think
Carrying like a baby around to because I don't think I've ever seen him in college until now. He's carrying like a baby around to be like, don't shoot.
But you know what?
It's pretty disgusting.
They'll avoid the baby.
They'll shoot around the baby.
Not that we're advocating for that.
Not that we're advocating, but it does seem like across the board, everybody's like,
well, maybe it's good that these people should live in fear.
There seems to be a sentiment here.
Yeah. The way we all live in fear, which honestly is very Gotham City of everybody, board everybody's like well maybe it's good that these people seems to be a sentiment here yeah
the way we all live in fear which honestly is very Gotham City of everybody to be like right
right you know what like yeah everyone in charge is bad maybe we need a rogues gallery poison ivy
wasn't ivy did nothing wrong i mean She was just trying to save the world.
It's not a planet.
Yeah.
The most elaborate Luigi Mangione conspiracy theory right now involves Pokemon.
He posted an image of the Pokemon character Breloom on social media,
and Breloom is the 286th.
Do I have to even say this?
Is the 286th Pokemon in the official Pokemon Poke Index,
and-
Poke Dex.
Poke Dex, as everybody probably noticed, 286. Also, the number of tweets made by Mangione on
his personal Twitter account before he got caught by authorities. There's also, and then obviously our mind races forward, Bible Proverbs 28.6.
I don't know. I guess it's not 28.6. 28 verse 6, which reads,
better is a poor man who walks in his integrity than a rich man who is crooked in his ways.
A verse we all know. And then there's also denial code 286 in the health insurance industry,
which is applied when a health care claim is denied due to not meeting the appeal time limits.
Wow.
That's it.
You could like find any health care code and it would be some fucked up thing.
Some fucked up denial code.
I'm pretty sure all the denial codes are probably bad.
I'm going to add one on top of there and say it could also be 286,
meaning like when you 86 something on a menu, if you work in a kitchen.
So it's like, I'm going to 86 somebody.
Yeah.
If I were to, and that would suggest that this is a seven situation and he's,
there's another
victim out there that we don't even know about yet.
Right.
And then he's going to have Gwyneth Paltrow's head sent to him in a box while he's in prison.
That would be my guess.
It could also be the shrooms he was taking though too.
It could also, yeah.
So he might have posted Breloom because it is just a cool looking Pokemon that looks like
an adorable magic mushroom, if it were an animal.
Let me see it.
Show me in the chat.
Everything is true and false at the same time.
It's quite beautiful.
There's Brayloom.
There's little Brayloom.
Oh, so cute.
It's like if a little tree frog was also a mushroom.
Yeah. It had moves for hands. It was like if a little tree frog was also a mushroom.
Yeah, and had moves for hands like a T-X.
Was also a little dinosaur.
Yeah, yeah.
You could show me any Pokemon and I'd be like, oh.
Oh boy, oh boy.
Luigi Mangione.
The fact that his name is Luigi Mangione also is Bella.
We love, yeah, it really is Bella.
My friend and I were talking a bunch about,
there was a thing on the Bill Simmons show the other day where he was
Talking about if Kobe Bryant had grown up in Italy how he'd be Kobe Bryantini
Then when it came out this guy's name was Luigi Mangione my friend and I were texting
Coby Brian-tiny. Coby Brian-tiny-tiny.
Wow.
That's pretty great.
All right.
Let's take a quick break.
We'll come back.
We'll do some more Luigi lore and some other things.
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Oh, we're back.
And we're back. And there's a bit of a mystery happening in New Jersey.
Miles, you mentioned it briefly last week, but since back in November, residents of New
Jersey have been plagued by sightings of mysterious drones, which have supposedly been, quote,
spotted above critical infrastructure and are in some cases as big as SUVs, according
to eyewitness testimony.
So the FBI says they're looking into it.
Presumably it's just two and probably hot FBI agents working out of a basement, throwing
files on each other's desks.
Have you ever heard of drone flash?
When will those two get back together?
You know, who Mulder and Scully Mulder and Scully.
Hey, I know that.
Yeah.
So, uh, but yeah, it just seems like it's getting, it's picking up steam.
The locals are going full word the worlds.
Um, and yeah, there, there was like a radio broadcast residents are like
doing a lot of like, I don't know, there's just a lot of sightings going
around of massive unidentified drones flying around the state.
So it's always, they keep repeating, like the size of these drones are unprecedented.
People don't know how big things in the sky are.
Like people, nobody is good at judging that.
Nobody's good at gauging how big something in the sky is.
Like that it's actually one of the reasons that I think you aliens are
possible that they could be here.
And we just don't know it because like the sky is massive and the only things that you see in the sky, like when you see a 747 up
close, it's fucking huge.
It's the size of like a city block.
Nah, it's not that big to me.
Oh, wow.
Well, it takes a lot.
I've seen bigger 747s than the 747 that we're talking about.
Yeah.
than the 747 that we're talking about. Yeah.
So my favorite detail of these stories, like this just feels like pure urban legend, but
it does also feel like it could be in a Spielberg movie.
One family was following a drone in their car trying to chase it down and said that
as the drone hovered above them, their car's clock
changed time and then only returned to normal time as they drove off.
That's the dumbest fucking lie to tell.
I love that.
That's very exfiles.
Oh, dude.
Did it change time to just like, to the following minute?
Was it daylight savings weekend?
Yeah, I mean, it was around like 1 a.m.
I feel like on that Saturday night and then it like went ahead, went back.
I don't know, man.
I think it was the the fucking mystery drones.
But okay, I mean that feels like an X-Files ish detail.
Never to waste a good panic, one GOP lawmaker claims that the drones were launched from a nearby Iranian
mothership just off the East Coast, which somebody actually asked about in a Pentagon briefing.
So the Pentagon was like, are you aware of, or journalists were like, are you aware of this?
And they're like, yep, we're aware of it. It's not ours. We don't think it's a foreign power.
powers. We don't think it's a foreign power." And they were like, well, this guy said, it's Iranian. And like the spokesperson for the Pentagon was just like, no, there is not an
Iranian mothership launching drones.
They're like, yo, we would be, we would all get fired if an Iranian mothership was off
the East coast of the United States. Do you have any idea how badly we want that to be true?
Any idea what that would do for our budgets?
Like we would be so fucking psyched if they did that.
Was that Lindsey Graham who brought that up?
It's like Senator Graham, is that you?
Nope, nope.
I'm just saying, was it an Iranian mothership?
Got to go, got to go, got to go.
That guy just threw a smoke bomb on the ground.
Uh, and then drive away in one of those little children's Barbie cars, you know? I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go. I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go,
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I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm that Iran is controlling the mysterious objects, which I hear from a high source every day on this show.
Yeah, I was gonna say I'm right here, bro.
Thank you for taking me seriously.
I've got some crazy evidence about how the color purple
I see might not be the same color purple you see,
if you think about it.
Exactly, yeah.
But I don't know, like this just, have you guys seen a drone display? Like a bunch of
drones working together? Like I saw one at a ski like mountain. Like we were in Big Bear
for New Year's Eve and they were like, hey, instead of doing fireworks this year, we did
a drone thing.
That will burn the forest down.
Drones? Yeah. And they did, and the drones were cool as shit.
And I was like, I can't believe one, you know,
I can't believe a fucking ski mountain is able to afford
whatever this is, but like, I don't,
I just think that like drones are very impressive now.
And like they can do more than maybe the average person
in New Jersey realizes at this point.
Because they can feel like there's massive numbers of them.
It must be a coordinated thing between many different people.
And it's like, I don't think that's right.
It could be like three.
Yeah, it could also be like three dipshits with drones,
like flying them a bunch every night to fuck with people and to keep the momentum going.
Oh yeah.
I've seen other ones where they're like, look at this picture from underneath and someone
just overlaid it with like a commercial jet.
And they're like, this is the exact same spread of lights on this jet.
Yeah.
Then this fucking quote unquote alien drone you're talking about.
You're like, oh, well, I don't know.
I looked way bigger.
Couldn't have been a jet.
So I think there's like,
a lot of people's confirmation bias is set to, I think,
you know, they're like, the truth is fucking out there,
and it's in New Jersey.
As people, as somebody who wants to believe,
I do have to be discerning about, you know,
how we evaluate these various things that
could be mysterious.
And I have no doubt, like, there's definitely, like, people having weird experiences.
And I think when you're primed by the local news to be like, there's drones out there,
and you're just constantly paying attention to the sky in a way that you weren't before,
you're going to see cool shit. I bet you're right that especially now
that there's a local news,
like a flap of local news stories about it.
Like remember that the crop circles
that like everybody was like,
what the fuck is going on with crop circles
was like a few guys who were just doing it
for like to fuck with people.
I would love it if it's the same guys.
Yeah.
New market.
And we back.
It's that dude who wore the like three-toed dinosaur shoes.
He used to walk on the shore to throw people off.
Like, yo, what the fuck left these footprints?
It's like, yeah, a guy with fucking shoes to fuck with you.
Yeah.
But it's just so easy for people to fuck with people.
And also like, yeah, so they, they actually interviewed a drone,
like the most reliable sources.
Of course, one of the experts at dronelife.com and he was like,
I don't know.
It looks like, uh, that one's an airplane.
That one's a cell phone tower.
That one is just a regular commercial drone likely being operated legally.
Like anybody who's familiar with like what drones can do
is just like, yeah, man, like these are actually just,
either the large ones are like actual aircraft,
which are again, much bigger than people realize usually
when they get close to the ground or
Their drones the kind of drones that we're familiar with, you know, I don't know man
I live in the flight path of Newark Airport and I see a lot of drones every night man
It's got nothing to do a living in a flight path
I also I also like that people like this person's like that looks like a cell tower
Is that be I wonder if you were posting like,
look at this light, it just floating fixed
in the same spot all night.
It doesn't move at all.
It doesn't move at all.
It's just sitting there looking at us.
Blinking.
There's also a problem with the motive of like,
so all the people who are like,
it's either an alien or it's Iran
and they're spying on us because they're being cited near Trump's golf course, where all the high security shit is
going down, like Trump doesn't just tell fucking everyone anything they want to
know if he thinks it's going to make him sound cool.
Right.
But one of the problems with that is first of all, drones like aren't great at
spying in the dark and second of all, were you to try to spy on something at nighttime, you
probably wouldn't have lights on the drone.
That's right.
To be like, I'm here.
That was the thing that, that put me off.
Cause I'm like, aliens are fucking with like red and green
lights on their spaceships.
Right.
Like a, like a fucking police chopper or some shit. And I'm like, yeah.
All right.
If these are aliens, bro, like they're there.
Their swag is fucking bottom of the barrel.
Like, I'm sorry.
This shit looks real norm core.
We do for whatever reason.
I always need to have a little red and green light on our alien technology.
Like it's a smoke detector that's running out of batteries.
Sorry, guys. That's just where we're at technologically over here.
Maria, what's your feeling on the drones or the aliens and shit?
Have you seen this story and did you want to believe?
I've seen a little bit of it.
I feel like I'm of the camp of it's probably just drones and the whole thing of like, yeah, people are gonna
sure sure notice more when there's already stories. I mean,
I would like to believe that aliens exist. And I would like
that to be possibility. You know, I think our standards are
just high. Look, we all want to believe and look, there's some
low hanging fruit guys, we can just go right there right now.
Yeah, you know, is it a drone? Is it an alien? Who knows? But And look, there's some low hanging fruit guys. We can just go right there right now. Yeah.
Is it a drone?
Is it an alien?
Who knows?
But like, I'm also kind of like,
how do they know that like, it's totally fine.
They're just like, we're just trying to blend in
with your habitat and just be red and green.
And now we're just like, no, but you're not blending.
We sent you a Christmas light display
and you guys freaked the fuck out. Sorry.
Did the colors and everything.
Sorry.
Y'all don't seem chill at all.
Y'all were throwing rocks at our Christmas parade.
Yeah.
We were trying to be like, hello humans.
We come and see.
We're trying to get to your level.
We're like, oh shit, it's red and green light time.
Here's some red and green light.
Red, white and green.
Wait a second.
What are the colors of the Italian flag?
Iran?
I'm talking Italy, man.
I'm talking Mangione.
I'm talking about sneak attack coming from the East Coast.
Where do a lot of Italian Americans live?
New Jersey.
They're sending messages to each other.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I feel like it's just the rest. The time is nigh. For Luigi.
Yes. By the way, the.
That's what the drums are doing above us.
And by the way, the Pentagon denial being like that.
No, there's not a mothership is being called idiotic on Fox News
Flat denial of this story idiotic
I mean look I get you did it with WMDs and yellow cake
But don't kick a war off with some shit like these drones are from Iran and we need a fucking
It's time to go to the fucking mattresses
The yellow cake was not any It's time to go to the fucking mattresses. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no what's going on. Like, dude, can you just find the people
who are using the drones and put an end to this
rather than being like, I don't know,
we don't know how to figure this out.
Cause I feel that's also feeding the shit too.
Oh yeah.
It's like the lack of clarity from when you get like
the feds or whatever talking.
Like they're like, yeah, we're not really sure
what's going on.
But people are taking like, dude,
they're not even sure what's going on.
Yeah.
So I feel like they just haven't looked into it very much.
And they're like, we just don't know.
We're never going to look at that.
And people are like, but.
Or it's an epic failure.
They're like, oh shit, bro.
I think, I don't know if those are drones, bro.
Right.
Fuck.
Yeah.
Fuckin say it was wrong.
This is, this sounds dumb, but like, does the FBI have interns and stuff?
Like, is it like the intern team that's on this case?
And they're like, we're still figuring it out.
This is our case study.
We have to get better at this.
It would be very easy for them to be like, hey, we have drones.
Everybody can use, you could go outside right now, order these drones on Amazon.
You know, like it would just be so simple to make end one up point
Yeah, and yeah, but oh my god. That's exactly it. That's the one
You look you're holding the controller what the fuck where did this come from
Fuck it made me do with the aliens
Well, ah god, I really wanted it. I really wanted something to come up. SUV sized drones, Jack, imagine.
God damn.
Do you see the one where they had a drone thing that had an inflatable person on it
and it looked like they were flying in a jet pack with a jet pack?
That was fun.
That was so fun.
You can really fool people with these drills.
Heck yeah.
Yeah.
People do that all the time.
There was like, I remember one movie was doing that
for their promo.
Remember that movie that was kind of like a home video
style shot thing where those teenagers get superpowers?
Chronicle?
Chronicle, yeah.
Remember that?
And like for part of the viral marketing,
they were attaching like human like figures on drones that were just like, wow,
was it around in the air?
Look, there's motherfuckers flying, man.
And you're like, it's for the movie Chronicle freaking out over here, man.
Yeah, like, I don't know.
When I was down the shore over the summer, like we were on the boards, me and my boys.
And there was somebody fucking around with a drone.
And it is like it's captivating and like it's cooling your, you know, They're on the boards, me and my boys, and there was somebody fucking around with a drone.
And it is like, it's captivating and like it's cooling your, you know, everybody's like,
whoa, there's a drone over there.
And like it's doing, doing stuff and who's doing, you know, you like want to find who's
doing it and stuff.
So I just think we're probably at a point where we're not used to the fact that these
are pretty accessible technology, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And then you add the dark and dark are pretty accessible technology.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then you add the dark
and dark just makes everything mysterious.
And they're like, I can't see the person controlling it.
What?
Right.
I found the guy and he was like here
and like brought the drone over
and took a picture of my kids with it.
And then like sent it to me on my mobile phone.
And that guy-
On your mobile phone.
You're talking like an alien, Jack. On my mobile. Yeah. On my mobile phone. my mobile phone and that guy. On your mobile phone? You're talking like an alien, Jack.
On my mobile.
Yeah.
On my mobile phone.
My mobile phone.
Transferred.
There is nothing to see here.
Okay.
I think it's you, Jack.
You're in New Jersey,
like bringing everybody as part of your alien family.
Yeah, this was in New Jersey.
Then maybe this is what tipped.
Maybe what got everybody.
Two big stories in the last couple of weeks intersect with Jack's movements.
Yeah, I'm just saying.
It's all happening to me, not to anybody else.
The-
Just centering yourself in every new story.
Do you guys ever read Weird New Jersey and some of this stuff?
I found out about it through Chris Gafford, but there's-
Oh, I think he used to write for this website, Weird New Jersey,
but that just collects New Jersey urban legends.
And it like New Jersey has a long proud history of like really
detailed and intriguing urban legends.
So like, this is also know who you're dealing with.
They, they have a good imagination and I'm pretty sure the war of the
world thing was New Jersey.
Like the freak out that happened was in New Jersey.
So, Oh, what make they did the radio play?
Yeah.
The radio play was like one of the freak outs was, uh, fear spread across New Jersey.
That was the story.
Uh, in a phenomenal, in a phenomenon reminiscent of the war of the world's radio broadcast that once spread fear across New Jersey. That was the story. And a phenomenon reminiscent of the War of
the Worlds radio broadcast that once spread fear across New Jersey.
Okay.
This is a whole new story of freaking each other out. Just being like, whoa, man, but
could you imagine?
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