The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 355 (Best of 1/20/25-1/24/24)

Episode Date: January 26, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Lately on the NPR Politics Podcast, we're talking about a big question. How much can one guy change? They want change. What will change look like for energy? Drill, baby drill. Schools? Take the department of education, close it. Health care?
Starting point is 00:00:16 Better and less expensive. Follow coverage of a changing country. Promises made, promises kept. We're going to keep our promises. On the NPR Politics Podcast, listen on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm so sick of hearing men talk about women's basketball. This is Lexi Brown.
Starting point is 00:00:35 And Mariah Rose. And we've got a new podcast, Full Circle. Every Wednesday, we're catching you up on what's going on in women's basketball. We've got you with analysis, insight stories, and a little bit of tea. Full Circle is an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. Listen to Full Circle on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.
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Starting point is 00:01:31 Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III, and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends, Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives. Join us for heartfelt conversations with remarkable guests like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Listen to My Legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is My Legacy. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one non-stop infotainment laugh stravaganza. So without further ado, here is the weekly Zeitgeist. We do like to let the listeners, and you're welcome for this listeners, let the listeners get to know us a little bit better by telling them some stuff we think is overrated, some stuff we think is underrated. Paul, do you want to kick us off with what
Starting point is 00:02:41 you think is overrated? Oh my God. Speaking of this weekend, you know what's overrated? History. We're not learning from it. Why are we studying it still? What's the point? We are history. What's the point? If he can do a Nazi salute in the middle of everything and the ADL is like, well, he's just enthusiastic.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Well, our breaking points. It's just an awkward gesture done very enthusiastically. Yeah. So, I'm like, everybody's like, we got to learn from the mistakes of history. I'm like, I feel like just current empathy isn't working. So like, how are we trying to outsmart history? Sorry, history heads, I'm getting dumber as we speak. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Fuck history. Who cares? Who cares about where I came from or what happened or why we have the values we care about? Yeah, I feel that. My overrated is giving apps five stars. Like every time, it feels like every time I encounter an app, like I'm using Microsoft Outlook as an email client
Starting point is 00:03:47 because it is mandated by my workplace and they ask if I want to rate them. And out of curiosity, I was like, check, I was like, what kind of ratings is Microsoft Outlook kind of ratings is Instagram getting? And it's five stars like across the board. kind of ratings is Instagram getting. That is so funny. It's five stars like across the board. Like this industry that we are now aware
Starting point is 00:04:14 is trying to take away our free will, is successfully taking away our free will and is now openly in league with the Trump administration. They're like on the veranda as he's getting sworn in. Like we're just giving them default five stars. Like I feel like we need to recalibrate our grading curve when it comes to the apps that these massive companies are putting out.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Like start with a baseline of zero. And if they do something that suggests that these massive companies are putting out, like start with a baseline of zero. And if they do something that suggests that they're not going to try to rob you of free will or like destroy democracy in order to gain power, they like get up to one, one star, you know? I think there should be multiple like axes on which you can rate it. So you could be like, okay, yeah, it's super fascist, but also I'm still addicted to it. So like, right.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yes. I mean, don't take it away, but like change it, you know? Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was trying to figure out. Like, is this just because it's the equivalent of like ask it like a drug dealer being like, hey, could you rate and review drugs before I give you your next drug? That is so funny. They're like, let me cater this algorithm to you in this mess. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Twenty seven million people have rated Instagram and the average rating is an A. It's 4.7 out
Starting point is 00:05:44 of five. That's 94%. What if every standing meeting Mark Zuckerberg walks in and he's like, how are we doing, folks? And they're like, well, the ratings are still at five. Keep going. Yeah. I mean, I think like it got started out at a really high level, I guess, like when people were just like, gee whiz apps, what can't the tech industry do? And now they're just like still there. Like Microsoft Outlook, a fucking email client that like most people who use it are like, this is really frustrating and like doesn't work that well. Is that 4.8 out of five? That's like almost an A plus. Like why are we, why do we grade like we're the hotel management department at like Alabama giving like all the football players just like good grades to like get their eligibility up.
Starting point is 00:06:37 It's just, yeah, I don't know if it's goodwill leftover from the tech industry from like 2008, but I feel like we need to just say enough is enough and start like giving these apps zero stars. They aren't immigrant uber drivers okay we need to really judge them. Right. By the way Brian the editor has gone to the Google play store to check out the reviews for the app Covenant Eyes, which has actually is actually earning a meager 4.6,
Starting point is 00:07:15 which is like an A minus actually that coveted eyes. Are you aware of, probably of Covenant Eyes? This is the app. So this is the app that speaker of the house, Mike Johnson uses to keep This is the app. So this is the app that Speaker of the House Mike Johnson uses to keep him, himself and his teenage son from jacking off to internet porn. And we covered it when it was first announced. Oh my god, it's a chastity belt for internet porn? Yeah, it's a chastity Belt for internet porn. You essentially have spyware installed on your phone that will tell on you the second you look at porn
Starting point is 00:07:52 to another partner, another accountability partner. And it's apparently working for these 10 point, like basically 11,000 people who have reviewed it as getting an A minus. You'd think that there would be more people being like, fuck, this thing just told my dad that I was jacking off. Like that's, I know. Like we hope it wouldn't work. I feel like if you have a problem like that, going to like another app isolation
Starting point is 00:08:26 thing isn't the best solution. Like I feel like amidst all of these issues that you're having maybe like connect with people who could help like human beings who could help you rather than being like punish me. That might be a kink. What if they're like getting punished by covenant eyes? They're like, yeah, I've been a bad boy. I do feel like in the popular consciousness, at least people who are obsessed with sexual purity also tend to be the people who are like in a dark room on their knees, like whipping their own back, you know?
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah. So Brian the editor- The question does not work. Brian the editor has pulled this quote from the reviews. This was very helpful in my pursuit of sexual purity. So that was it. Yeah. Okay. Virgin. No, I'm kidding. I'm fine to be a virgin. You're fine if you're a virgin. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Weird times. I say we stop giving the tech industry the benefit of the doubt and start grading them. We're taking into account what they're doing to human civilization. Jody, what is something that you think is underrated? Well, my underrated relates to something I've been noodling with lately. And I'm curious for your thoughts. Noodling? Diselectric guitar.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah. Exactly. Beed-a-doo-doo-doo. My underrated is drinking. So I've been thinking. Could that be related to the cold? No, it's related a little to, it could be related to, it's related a little to dry January going on all around. And then, you know, the surgeon general recently issued
Starting point is 00:10:10 that the sort of warnings on alcohol and basically said like, no drinking is good for you and, or any drinking is bad for you. And then just in general, this, you know, these kinds of stats and just this cultural thing that we all see of like drinking has diminished considerably, especially among young people. And I've been thinking over the last couple of weeks about that trend. And on the one hand, I like, you know, I've cut back my drinking a fair amount and I think like drinking is pretty harmful, but I've also been thinking that maybe that the like decline in drinking
Starting point is 00:10:47 might be a symptom of or a symbol of like the people called the loneliness epidemic. But like, I really feel like there's a chance that like young people aren't not drinking because they're like making healthy choices, but because they're at home on screens alone. And I think that is like, yeah, baby, baby by themselves, you know, and so like, I don't know, it's just been this
Starting point is 00:11:10 interesting kind of thing I've been trying to puzzle through. Because there's part of me that's like, yeah, drinking is really harmful. But then this part of me, it's like, yeah, we need to go out and like grab a couple of drinks with friends. Like we need more of that. We are very isolated from one another. So I'm just, you know, I would also say, like, there should be more options. I think things being open longer should be more, like, should have more options.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Like, juice bars and coffee places. Like, people were talking about how they, we need more 24-hour, like, coffee places or whatever. Like, where people can go hang out and just, like, chat and have things be open. I think, like, drinking is sanctioned at night, you know? And so those places stay open. But I think if we just had more, like, what is it called? Like third... Third space.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Third space. Yeah. Even, you know, I think a lot of people do stuff in, like, parks and things, but they're not always in the best situations or available or whatever. So I agree. Like, I get what you're saying about the loneliness thing. I'm like, we all need, and people were talking about how we don't have enough house parties and then we were like, we don't own houses. Like, what are we supposed to do? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Man, nine years ago, I would have agreed with you so hard on this one, but I- We should drink more. Too hard, in fact, and now I don't drink anymore. But yeah, I agree that I think it's good to have a place, something that gets us out. I think social isolation is a major problem. And it sounds like America's top doctor, the Surgeon General caught the woke mind virus and needs to be stopped with that. That's exactly what I'm saying. I do just want to say, like this is-
Starting point is 00:12:47 Too bad we can't be vaccinated against the Woke Mind virus. Oh my God. I mean, listen, I've got a couple podcasts I'm going to recommend for you that kind of function as a vaccine. By the way, who's Joe Rogat? No, I'm kidding. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I will say, I don't think there could be a more New York take that is anti-LA than this. You talked to LA people and were like, yeah, man, if I hadn't gotten off it nine years ago and switched over to meditation, I would agree with you. I suggested juice bars. Juice bars. Pauli did suggest juice bars. I was like, have you tried the Halle Beiber smoothie at Arowanda?
Starting point is 00:13:27 That's right. That's right. We didn't do an overrated. Do you have something you think's overrated, Molly? Overrated email. I think bring back the postal service. Yeah. I love sending postcards and letters.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Yeah. I would like... Now it's like I'm disappointed. My mail is all junk all the time. I would prefer I get real mail and I Don't need email. It's 90. It's also 99% junk Capitalism really just breaks every just ruins everything Yeah, let's just wait I have it let's just do it a little bit more and see if it works out
Starting point is 00:14:04 Let's just do it a little bit more and see if it works out. Let's just do Capitalism. I feel like we're going to take it itself. I was just thinking about how bad the internet, just like shopping for something online and the first five results if you're shopping for something. Well, I hate now how they've made it. When you Google anything, the AI
Starting point is 00:14:25 results come up first. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. I have an example in today's episode of this. It's so fucking infuriating because I don't ever and there's no way to turn it off. And people don't notice like people just because it looks like just the regular answers or like an article or something. So people, I don't know. And also like... It's just scraping the Wikipedia. Yeah. Just taking information and scraping it and getting something partially wrong usually.
Starting point is 00:14:56 If we could like take today's internet and show it to ourselves in the year 2008, we would be like, what happened? What the fuck is this? I think we'd be like, oh my God, we live in Smart House. And I feel like people didn't pay enough attention to that movie, it was ahead of its time. It's everything. So you just have to like, I mean, there are tricks
Starting point is 00:15:20 for getting around it, but like it is by default, just completely fucking broken. I have an idea to rebuild society, which is to go take it back to 1999, the last good year. I think it's just Y2K rebuild plan. Yeah. But like with the progressive social stances we have now. Yeah, maybe like 2003. I think it's like, I want to cap it at digital cameras, yes,
Starting point is 00:15:46 cell phones, but no smartphones. Right. Which seems to be the direction things are headed. I watched this clip of Cameron Diaz talking about how she was on a press tour for Charlie's Angels with Drew Barrymore and Lucy Liu, and they land in Japan and everybody's holding up up phones and they were like, what are they doing? And the person that they were with was like, they're taking pictures of you, they can do it on their phones. And they all have the realization at the same time that it's over for them. They'll never have a moment of peace again or be able to do anything without somebody knowing. They all discovered camera phones at the same time.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah, but then Cameron Diaz retired wisely. She just retired. She's back now, but she retired for a long time. She did the Jenna Marbles. She was like, you know what? I'm good. Bye. I made the mask.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I love that. Cameron is actually short for camera phone. It's just a combination of the two words. God damn it, Jack. That is, yeah. I still remember, I like pitch, I worked for my job after a pool boy at the cell house who was like working for ABC News.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And I pitched a story about like how, guys, like we're gonna have phones, we're gonna have cameras fucking everywhere. Like think about how weird that's gonna be. And they're like, yeah, I don't know, man. This doesn't seem like a news story. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, I remember the first time I saw somebody
Starting point is 00:17:08 use a digital camera and show me like, look, you can see what the picture looks like. Yeah, right. Like what? Oh, you can just see it immediately. It does make you feel like we had to walk eight miles through the snow telling people like, no, you had to go develop the photos.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And you didn't know if any of them would turn out even like vaguely good or Even just like you could see them. Some of them would just be bad. Yeah, that's so crazy because I was born in 2014 so like Sound was an iPhone You went to the 3d sound imaging at the Galleria yeah hundred percent You went to the 3D sound imaging at the Galleria? Yeah, 100 percent. I'm always like, wow. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:20:56 Listen to the official Yellowstone podcast now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go to work. And we're back. And Chris, we do like to ask our guests also what something you think is overrated. Oh, did I do that? Man, I forgot that that was so deep. I'm so sad when I just brought up that I forgot. That was your underrated. That was, yeah, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Dad or whatever. Yeah. Oh, oh, good death. Overrated. First of all, 13 years sober today. If anyone wants to reach out to me about sobriety, I'm always open to that. I also used to have a really good time drinking. So I'm not, you know, I just can't do it anymore, but I'm not like, if you do
Starting point is 00:21:45 drink, you know, and you're having fun. That rules. Sure. I wish I could drink cause now it seems like it'd be a really good time to drink. Yeah. Um, if you were good at it, but I'm not. So I've been sober for 13 years. And so I'm, I'm very grateful for the support.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I'm grateful for the zeitgeist for allowing me to talk about it, even though it's not the most entertaining topic all the time, I'll never forget that. Remember the live one, Jack, where we had that one about the year 2000? Yeah. And you asked me, like it was in person and, and, and, and we had the chat in front of us on a big screen and it was like blazing by all the like, hello, Jack or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Just a live comment section. Or whatever the fuck it said. Yeah. Like all this shit going by. Yeah. It was overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:22:24 And I said, Jackie's, I said, they said, what's overrated. I said alcohol live comment section. The fuckers or whatever the fuck it said. Yeah. Yeah. Like all this shit going by. Yeah. It was overwhelming. And I said, Jackie's, I said, they said, what's overrated? I said, alcohol. And some, I just saw a comment that just said, I paid $10 to go to an AA meeting, which I saw. And I said, I am so sorry.
Starting point is 00:22:39 If I was still drinking, I'd be so angry right now. So anyway, but if you are having any trouble, please DM me on Instagram or whatever. I'm happy to talk anytime. But overrated, I would say looking at maps because I will tell you, I went to, I did a show on the way to Chicago in Kirksville, Missouri, and it was absolutely a blast. But if I had known where Kirksville, Missouri was, I would never have gone. Yeah. Because I don't, I was like, Missouri was, I would never have gone. Yeah. Because I don't, I was like, Missouri, how far can it be?
Starting point is 00:23:10 Well, it's not based. Like I'll stop by that state on my way to other state is a yeah. Well, here's the problem was like, it's not how far Kirksville was, but that I, I just on my own decided it was on the way to Chicago. It's not. Yeah. So I like they kept saying, we can't believe way to Chicago. It's not. Yeah. So I like, they kept saying, we can't believe you came. We can't believe you came. And I was like, I don't see what the big deal is.
Starting point is 00:23:31 It's on the way to Chicago. And they said, no, it's not. Yeah. So I love that I found that out, but it ended up being, cause it was eight hours to Kirksville from Nashville. I was thinking St. Louis was like the top of the state or something. So that's five hours. So I had no idea it was eight hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:46 But I don't care. I'm down for an adventure. That's the other thing is like, I want to kind of know where I'm going, but I find out when I put it in the machine, you know, so eight hours, but then I didn't check what happens from Kirksville to Chicago. So I said to my friends in Chicago, like I'll be done in Kirksville, like probably morning of Thursday. So I'll be my friends in Chicago, like I'll be done in Kirksville,
Starting point is 00:24:05 like probably morning of Thursday. So I'll be up. Um, we think that's like 35, 40 minutes, whatever it is Monday. I was like, I'll be up there in like three and a half hours or whatever. And then I looked at the thing. It's like six hours, another six. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And that's when it really gets you the second leg of the trip, but it was so great. And I, I don't want to hype Kirksville, but everywhere I I want to move there if there's like one nice person there cuz I'm so fucking mad at Nashville Yeah, so I'm like, oh boy. Oh boy. This place rules. Maybe I'll move here and they're like, well Yeah, there's a couple things you should know they were like all 40 I want to move out all 40 people the 40 people in this room Are the only cool 40 people right? We all know each other by name also If you come you have to bring a woman Jesus that's so like there are no do not come here single. Yeah, it's like a way
Starting point is 00:25:04 It's like a club. They're like, uh-uh. I mean, it's you got any word. Yeah. It's like a, it's like a club. They're like, uh-uh. I mean, it's just, they just were, they were just telling, filling me in like, Hey, this isn't near Chicago. You don't want to move here. But I had so much fun because it's a farm town that has a university and, and they had a great college radio station. It was like playing M and M and shit.
Starting point is 00:25:24 It was so fun. You know, it felt like, it felt like an item, not opposed to finding small communities, like moving somewhere where you can feel fucking sane, you know? So I, I don't think that that is self-preservation. There's no shame in like being like Nashville is becoming a, you know, a venture capital nightmare. If I'm just trying to figure out, like I could fight that I ran for office, but I'm not going to win.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I am not going to win that battle. Nashville wants it to be the powers that be in Nashville are not this is, I'm not, nobody's turning this around. So I was just like, Kirksville, maybe not, you know, it's not as close to Chicago as I thought. But, but anyway, maybe, maybe, maybe you'll have a nice little apartment there where rent is $272. Yeah. Six guys got together and rented a storefront
Starting point is 00:26:16 in the old like town square that used to sell like grain and stuff and they just rent a storefront and have shows in there. They just put up some Christmas lights and they have a coffee maker. And it was amazing. And they had a great band that played. And it turns out that Truman University in that area is like a liberal arts college. Like there was a public school, so it was cheap,
Starting point is 00:26:37 but it was a liberal arts model. So it was like kind of like a way for people who couldn't afford a fancy, you know, go to fucking Harvard or I don't know what a liberal school is, but you know what I mean? Like it was like an artsy college for at a public price. So that's interesting. And then on top of that an hour away in Iowa, that's how close I was. I was like, oh, I'm right by, it's right near Nashville. Yeah, Iowa. So Iowa has this town called Fairfield, Iowa. That's the center of transcendental meditation. It was like built
Starting point is 00:27:06 around that that was an hour away from Kirksville. So I just I didn't really know there was like these little like, sort of intellectual outposts in like, I mean, there aren't that many own and they're like, the outpost is 40 people, you know, and they're all here and they're all dudes. Yeah. But anyway, there are cool towns. So don't look at maps great land that aren't like the big three, like cities and that have amazing people in them, you know, so load up your debit card and don't look at maps.
Starting point is 00:27:33 There you go. And just, just drive an extra couple of tanks of gas that you didn't know about. All right. Let's, uh, let's get into just real quick. I wanted to talk about, uh, we're at the one week anniversary of Biden's last minute, Equal Rights Amendment statement, his like big flourish as he left office. That feels like it's kind of a good metaphor for his whole thing,
Starting point is 00:27:58 his whole administration. So he declared that the Equal Rights Amendment is now, quote, the law of the land guaranteeing all Americans equal rights and protections under the law, regardless of their sex. And so a lot of people pointed out that this, like implied in this was that he was then going to order the archivist of the United States to publish the Equal Rights Amendment. That was like the actual physical thing that needed to happen, like the follow-up to be like, yeah, so this is what I'm doing. A lot of people have also pointed out Trump would have probably found a way to overturn this, and he couldn't have necessarily gotten away with it. But making the statement
Starting point is 00:28:46 suggested that he had thought through that and done some legwork to make these things possible. No. Instead, not only had he not done that legwork, not worked with, because his own Department of Justice had previously ruled that he couldn't do this. When he made the statement, people are like, oh shit, he like worked with the DOJ and like got them to like onboard.
Starting point is 00:29:09 So didn't do that. So hadn't even like done that work and then didn't do the follow-up call with the look, I don't know what the fucking archivist is. Like, I don't know anything about that, but like, presumably the Biden, the top people in the president's cabinet and staff should know. They were like, our position is he said it, so the archivist should just publish it because of that thing he said, just shirking all responsibility for what happens next. So essentially he made this big statement to quote, I think it was a Jezebel article, the declaration, quote,
Starting point is 00:29:45 doesn't mean shit. And nothing happened. And it just, I don't know. It seems like he has a futility fetish. Like I remember multiple times during his presidency, where he would like, say he was doing a thing, and then not be able to do the thing and then be like, what the, well, what am I supposed to do? My hands are tied. In this case, I don't know. I remember it with regards to student debt forgiveness. I know he did do a lot of student debt forgiveness,
Starting point is 00:30:21 but when it came to predictable pushback from the Supreme Court and Republicans and businesses. And then the place that it was most obvious was with Israel, where he spent a year and a half talking about how PO'd he was that Netanyahu wouldn't listen to him. It's like he thinks he's getting A's for efforts on all of these things. And I think this is how you get to a place where not just the extremely rich think authoritarianism is a good idea because it like allows them to be corrupt and continue getting richer, but like also it seems like a bunch of people think authoritarianism is a good idea because you have just lived through a bunch of
Starting point is 00:31:10 presidencies where as the world literally burns, the president keeps like throwing his hands up and being like, what am I supposed to do? Or in the case of Obama, like bailing out wall street and like making fucking people pay for the bailout with taxes while after running as like the hope and change candidate. Like it's that I cried when he was elected. I was so happy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And then I felt totally fucking ripped off. Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's been bad, bad times for the brand of like the U S president getting shit done. And so with, like, I just, I, I think that's important context for like what we're seeing now where Trump is just like, yeah, I'm going to be a fucking dictator. And, you know, a bunch of, albeit racist people seem to like, be like, hell yeah, let's be wet about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Let's see where we're going with this. Well, it also feeds into conspiracy theories because why in the world, if this, if the Democrats were so upset about Trump being an existential threat, why in the world didn't they go all out to pass every executive order, every single possible thing in the last few months. And they didn't, they didn't do fucking anything. They packed, packed up. And I think the Democrats kind of acted like, well, we tried to teach these dumb ass racists and idiots what, what it's like, you know, we tried to show that
Starting point is 00:32:37 this is the most pragmatic way to be as is the way we're being. We have to like, you know, like, but see you later. You know what? We did our part. We, we can't help if everybody's an idiot, like, see you guys later. Have fun. Like we're being. We have to like, you know, like, but see you later. You know what? We did our part. We can't help if everybody's an idiot. Like, see you guys later. Have fun. Like we're just going to retreat to Martha's Vineyard where we already lived. Right. I mean, I think it's Pod save America, which I'm even mad. I'm so mad at Pod Save America and I don't even ever watch it or really have never seen it. I've seen just bits of it. And I want to fuck. I just want to. I just can't believe you.
Starting point is 00:33:03 You know, you can't say Pod save America when you're the ones who fucked America. Right. But you're the guys who fucking put Obama in office and and as in a in a trick, like as a trick. I mean, I don't know if Obama was used, but they wouldn't allow him to do hope and change if he was really wanting to. Right. You know, I just feel like combination. It feels like it was a combination, but it does. I do know, like one of the things that's annoying about our democratic leaders and also what we see with the Republican leaders that come into office, whether it is through Congress or the presidency, is the fact that, you know, it's a lot, it feels like it's a lot of talk, talk, talk, talk, talk for your side, apparently.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And then on the left side with the leaders that are in office, it's all the talk, no follow through. And they are trying to placate to both sides in a way that doesn't work because they're never going to like what you are doing. And I know it's more complex and nuanced than that. But what that allows them to do is to just like what Biden did throughout his whole administration is I'm going to do this and then make a half ass try at it and then never fucking do it. Or it doesn't go all the way through.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And it's like, nigga, you've been in office for 95 fucking years. You know how this game is. Like, you know, you know, like this isn't new to you. So, and so what that means is like, if I, if I do something and I know what the outcome is, but I'm doing it to make the people who are ignorant to the process think that I'm doing something, I'm being manipulative. Yeah. Like, and that's what it feels like. That's what Biden did for four years. So it was just like mass manipulation to the people who put him in office.
Starting point is 00:35:04 And was that his intention, do you think? or was that something he just couldn't help but do because he was too in front? Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out. Like, is it, is it like a thing where he's letting himself off the hook by being like, look, I just did this thing and I tried, I tried my best. And like, he's, I'm going to go down in history as the tried my best president. Or if he was literally thinking that he could get up there and people were so. Like not savvy and checked out that they would just be like, there, he did the thing.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Cause here's the thing with Obama and I'm not excusing Obama. Look, I love you. I'm a black man. We had a black president. I'm from Chicago. We have a Chicagoan president that will always mean something to me like it will always mean something to me and Anybody who says it shouldn't can suck the deepest levels of my dick
Starting point is 00:35:52 But like and there's a good levels and there's some deep levels But and that's not me excusing all the bullshit that he did. Yeah, like I two things could be true Yeah, so like he also was severely disappointing the, but the one thing about Obama in relation to Biden is that Obama, a lot of people forget, had just hit the political scene four to six years before he was elected president, which is a very short time in politics. Now, the reason I'm bringing that up is when you talk about a Biden and you talk about somebody who's been in politics since 1842, like you would think that he knows how this works and you would think that he's entrenched in it in a way where
Starting point is 00:36:41 he's above the games and the manipulation of the politics around him, as opposed to an Obama like Chris, you brought this up, what's he used in a way and like, I do think there's some elements of that because he was brand new in politics. He, he wasn't a career politician at that point. Now he learned it really fucking quick. But he wasn't like a career politician like Biden was. And so Biden, when when somebody like Obama runs on the hope and change, and then like the rug is pulled out from underneath you,
Starting point is 00:37:11 like there is an element of maybe that's who you were, and also you got played by the people around you. When somebody like Biden runs on hope and change, and this nigga's been in office for seven decades, and then you pull the rug from out under us, then you are the problem, my friend. Like you should know, you know, this game, you, you're supposed to have all these relationships, uh, like people who were born and you are a Senator and now
Starting point is 00:37:35 are working with you, like, like, come on, bro, like the reason he talks like that, like says malarkey and shit like that and calls people Jack is because like when he started, that was the equivalent of like Riz and like, you know, cool Gen Z link. Oh, like that was, that was cool stuff that people were like, man, this guy's pretty edgy. He's the only one that has a corn pop story. Never. Yeah. That was him just like reverting to like straight when he first came in.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Sounded like it was out of a litter little Abner, little Abner comic. They're like this new generation of politicians like Joe Biden grew up, you know, with their fancy new fangled habits of like hitting a hoop down the street with a stick like he's, you know, he says things like malarkey his, his smack is so I forgot about hitting a hoop down as Jewish stick. Why does anybody do that anymore? Who knows?
Starting point is 00:38:29 If I'm not mistaken, like if he's not the longest he's in the top 10 of people who have been in politics the longest. Like as far as like how many years he came in and now he's the youngest Senator when he was elected and the oldest dirt when he left politics finally a week ago.
Starting point is 00:38:47 So, or six, seven days ago. And so like, it was just so dis- it was, it's more upsetting because, you know, we put him in office. Nobody expected him to like be hope and change, but we put him in office off the things that he said he would do. And then he went in knowing how the game works and just played the fucking game and expects us to be like, well, he tried, man, fuck you. Well, that's, that's the part I wonder.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I was like, you know, I was okay with the idea of like, oh, I can understand his presidency in the sense that like, he's trying to show that the dignified incremental way as opposed to like, I'm not some guy like Trump, who's like just going to go crazy. So that's like the choice. Like I'm showing you how the system works in a way where we just do things the way they're supposed to be. But what I don't, which is what makes me think of like inspiratorially is I don't
Starting point is 00:39:43 understand the last few months since he lost the election. Why he didn't do anything. That's the part where I'm like, I do not get it. Like if I was doing in his, uh, you know, resentment about being replaced on the ticket, his theory is he would have won the election and he got fucked. And so that's insane. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Uh, yeah, totally. He's so I just don't, I don't't know how to I don't know how to think about him, you know, it feels like he didn't do anything because he didn't want to do it. That's that's my, that's my suspicion. Because even if he didn't want to do it, the people around him. Yeah, I mean, well, the obvious example is Israel, Palestine. I mean, like, you know, they didn't want to do anything. And everyone knows that now and you can't undo that.
Starting point is 00:40:26 So that's where. The Democrats have nothing, no brand anymore. They don't have any trust, you know, and I mean, no one trusts the Republicans, but that's why people like the Republicans, because they're just like, Oh, well, they're the real thing at least. Yeah. They say what they mean. Madness, of course.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Yeah. But, and they, and they, even in an underhanded way at the very least, you know, seemingly care about their base to the point where Trump was like, I'm going to do all this shit and then this motherfucker is like doing it, like in a way that he's like, I don't care if I push it through, I don't care. Like if you, if you're a Senator who is not on my agenda, like go like jump in a river. Uh, and like it's bullshit, but like, I know like a lot of Democrats be like, I wish our side could be like that.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Yeah. Uh, but there is an element where I wish our side could be like that sometimes because like, you know, instead of making all these promises and these half ass attempts, like we want you to do shit. We want you to like push it through and be like, this is for the better of the fucking people. Did you see the mayor of Chicago statement about the other day about about like how he's not going to let ice come in here and all this sort of stuff like, yeah. And the way he spoke, that's like, I was like, that's the kind of talk we needed on the campaign, like he was just like, fuck these people, like fuck these people.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I mean, he was saying friggin and stuff, but I mean, like, that's. I mean, that's why I feel like, you know, I feel like the Democrats, you know, I, I don't feel like they're, they're not like they didn't want, they were more comfortable with fascism than, than changing one fucking thing about their, their own corruption. They're, yeah. It like, so the reason that Trump had a campaign in the first place in 2015, like how it, how it was brought together is because like there was, you know, Steve Bannon and like other really wealthy donors had this idea, like had this data that said Americans wanted an outsider candidate, which is like exactly what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:42:34 This idea that like somebody could come in and just like fucking force things to get done. Um, and both sides wanted it. And like Bernie Sanders got a lot of support and like almost beat Hillary Clinton the most establishment candidate like on the Democratic side and Trump on the Republican side did beat the you know all of the establishment candidates and now like that this is like this is the result of that like the Democrats kept doubling down on establishment and going back
Starting point is 00:43:05 to the establishment stuff. But like the reason that Trump is popular and that Sanders had like that upswell of support is because people recognize that something is broken and fucked about the system. And the Democrats are a institution that is specifically designed to not recognize that. And so it just feels like we're going to, as long as, I don't know what the way is out of this because it feels like the Democrats are going to find a way to double back down on whatever the establishment answers. Oh, they won't, which is, I mean, yeah. Because that's all they are.
Starting point is 00:43:43 They are the establishment. Here's the thing too. I know we got to move on, but like to another topic or take a break soon, but here's another thing too. When at, you know, 2016 decide in 2020, the talk in the media, at least, or amongst people was what is the Republican party now after Trump, you know, got booted out, and Biden got elected, they're broken. Who's the leader?
Starting point is 00:44:09 Who's this? Who's that? Who's this? Like nobody knew the direction of the Republican Party and all these things. And that was the talk in the media, also online and everything like that. And what they were quietly doing
Starting point is 00:44:23 in those two to three years until it was like time to start launching campaigns, and Trump came back and rode a wave to victory, was they were quietly assembling like the tech industry and like going on social media and like actually like using the tool that they hated in the previous four years to their advantage and doing a lot of things to like shore up the fact that no matter what was going to happen, Trump was going to get elected and like the leadership and the vision and the structure of the Republican party came together quick as fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I, cause it was crazy. Yeah. Right now we are because it was crazy. Yeah. Right now we are saying the same thing about Democrats. What's the direction? Who's the leader? Where are we going? What's going to happen? This that any other?
Starting point is 00:45:14 The hope is that maybe behind the scenes, something is happening. Unfortunately, the faith that I have in that is almost zero. And like, that's the problem. Like you got your asses handed to you and it was partly, mostly your fault. What are you doing now? You got two years, like Jay-Z when he retired and like he had his first song
Starting point is 00:45:38 and like when he was coming back and at the end of the song, he was like, y'all got two months to get y'all shit together. Good luck. Like that's how he ended his first song after his retirement in 03. Like I want like the Democrats to be in that mindset. Like y'all got two years to get y'all shit together. Good luck. Like we're we're we're building.
Starting point is 00:46:00 We're we're getting shit ready. And I just don't think that's happening. And that shit pisses me off more than anything else. Yeah. I think it, yeah. I don't know how it can have, like, I I'm at the point where I'm just like, I don't know how, how an organ, an organism that is like specifically designed as a like anti change, self-sustaining power machine is going to, is going to create change and I don't know, not do
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Starting point is 00:49:57 This is My Legacy. And we're back and just staying on the most powerful person in the world giving openly giving a Nazi salute for if you'll indulge us for another few minutes here for some reason this seems important. So maybe one of the most eyebrow raising defenses of his salute came from the Anti-Defamation League who tweeted that it was merely an quote awkward gesture and we should all cut him some slack during this quote delicate moment, which I think seemed to shock a lot of people that the ADL was defending a literal Nazi salute, their reputation is pretty significantly out of line with what their actual work has been forever, but especially in recent years. We've mentioned before that it was founded to defend Israel, not really fight bigotry. And the fact that they run a program that sends US cops to train in Israel should probably
Starting point is 00:51:12 tell you something. That's something that we've covered before. A delegation of top American law enforcement officers is in Israel. This is from a Intercept article, is in Israel for the ADL's National Counterterrorism Seminar, which includes training on topics such as leadership in a time of terror. this is from an Intercept article, is in Israel for the ADL's national counterterrorism seminar, which includes training on topics such as leadership in a time of terror and balancing the fight against crime and terrorism. So yeah, the current executive director recently compared the CAFIA to the Swastika, has repeatedly aligned the organization with the Trump administration
Starting point is 00:51:43 and refused to call out the Trump administration and refused to call out the Trump administration's blatant hate speech. I will say one group that is calling it a Nazi saluter does seem to be like, hmm, that looked like, that's what we thought it was, right? Our actual Nazis, Christopher Polhouse, the leader of the notorious neo-Nazi group, Blood Tribe posted the clip of his salute on Telegram with a lightning-gold emoji. The caption, I don't care if this was a mistake, I'm going to enjoy the tears over it. That seems like he might be like,
Starting point is 00:52:18 I don't know, did he mean to? Who knows? Another neo-Nazi leader, Christopher Hood, who founded the New England race separatist movement NSC 131, one of the less popular CBS crime dramas, also posted the clip to Telegram with the emoji exclamation point question mark and smiley face. There's a bunch of it. One of them shared the clip with the caption incredible things are happening already lmao And okay, he's raised separatist. No one wants to hang out with you. Anyways, okay Nobody is trying to mingle with you in a fucking happy hour, right? So don't worry about it Yeah, another self-described ethno-nationalist and anti-semite shared the clip in a post writing
Starting point is 00:53:03 Okay, maybe woke really is dead guys. Am I right? We got one. We got one. Yeah. No, there's anti-woke and then there's that. But wait, with the ADL, is it coherent to their politics to not call this out
Starting point is 00:53:24 or is it bootlicking? Is it sucking up to power and wealth? I think it's both. Yeah. Because they're going wherever Israel is propped up. And so I think like given the relationship between Trump and Netanyahu and like what Trump has said relationship between Trump and Netanyahu and like what Trump has said or intends to do, I think that aligns with their goals. And then I also think, yeah, everybody is falling in line right now. Yeah, it seems to be kind of in line with they if they are not really against defamation as much as involved in a political cause. They are like a lot, you know, like TikTok and other, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:08 organizations that are all just trying to, you know, Donald Trump is a fairly simple instrument to operate where you just like say that you agree with him and flatter him and do, you know, just display loyalty. He's like a... And wire a couple of mill into the bank account. And yeah, exactly. Buy a bunch of his meme coins so that he becomes even richer. I don't know if this means anything, but I checked the Fox News website and the only
Starting point is 00:54:35 mention of Musk's salute on that site was a write-up of AOC pushing back on the ADL and saying, you know, like, what are we doing here, folks? This was clear. We all know what this was, like, how can you possibly call for understanding in this moment, which to me, you know, I don't know, it's interesting to me that that's the one thing that got attention. And I think it shows like, huh, maybe like actually taking a stand gets people's attention. And like the language of the right has been that for the last eight,
Starting point is 00:55:08 10 years and AOC knows how to play that game. And I don't know, maybe I'm over reading it, but the only mention on Fox News was in this moment where someone actually like clapped back. Do you think though that they're well, I'm not sure. I don't know the language of the article you're talking about. Do you think that they're like putting her out there as chum so that people get distracted because she's so incendiary to the right? A little bit though. I, I, yeah. I mean, sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I think ALC is going to get attention no matter what, but like that's the game we're playing here. Right? Yeah. I don't think ALC cares if she's all over Fox news and people are talking shit about it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like sometimes I just feel like they use people that, like, that are almost like trigger words to the right. Yes. Just to distract from the actual what, like her putting her as a shield in front of Musk, kind of like, look at her saying this stuff about the ADL rather than her points are valid. No, it's certainly like a third order story, right?
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah. It's not covering the actual thing. It's like refracted through this now spat, but you know. Yeah, just a couple more quotes from people weighing in here. The Proud Boy Ohio chapter posted to a clip of the Mucks video to Telegram with the text, Hail Trump. They just got worse as they went. How many pages of Nazi quotes do you have in your Google Doc right now? Just the ones he got in his email.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Yeah, I'm just scrolling through my inbox here. Also, I fucking hate that there's like Proud Boys chapter Ohio. First of all, Ohio isn't real and we all know that. And second of all... LA and New York come together. Yeah, I give it to Ohio. That's a Twitter thing. Everybody jokes about Ohio not being real.
Starting point is 00:56:42 But second of all, like, why do they... I hate that they're so organized. I jokes about Ohio not being real. But second of all, why do they, I hate that they're so organized. I hate that they have such structure. They have a secretary taking notes on how many times they say slurs. All right. Should we talk about primates peeing in groups? Would that be a good palate cleanser? Yes. This one's for the girlies because we love going to the bathroom together. This is for the ladies.
Starting point is 00:57:02 A little something for the ladies, right? Yes. Yeah, since time immemorial, men have been wondering this question. Why do they keep getting up and trying to get away from us? To talk shit about you, dude, to see if we need protection. Everything cool here? That guy wasn't weird, was he? Everything cool here? Hey, that guy wasn't weird, was he?
Starting point is 00:57:25 All right. So scientists at Kyoto University recently discovered that peeing is seemingly contagious amongst chimpanzees. They watched 600 hours of footage of captive chimps at the Kumamoto sanctuary, which captured more than 1,328 urination events. That's what I call it every time I have a slurpee. That's right. Do slurpees make you pee?
Starting point is 00:57:53 I don't know. I just was trying to think of some big drink. Big drink, big old slurpee. Big old drink. They found that when one ship decided to pee, others would often follow suit, which is not unlike humans. Our decision to urinate is influenced by social contexts that lead us to urinate simultaneously with others. This is usually something that we talk about in the context of sneezing. Like that- We're yawning, right?
Starting point is 00:58:19 Yawning is the one. Yes. That'd be crazy if it was sneezing. Sneezing. I'm like, oh, good idea. Sneezing event. In the context of yawning, that like yawns are contagious. And even though they feel like a thing that our body is forcing us to do, it's like, no, it's our brain. We're just, we're silly. We'll just do whatever everybody else is doing. But yeah, with going to the bathroom, it does feel so. If you're at the end of a long road trip and suddenly you get to your front door and you're like,
Starting point is 00:58:55 wow, I really had to pee that whole time. But somehow your brain, you're like super ego. All of your you know conscious Consciousness scaffolding has like kept that reality suppressed from you So I'm not shocked that we're learning that this is like highly contagious and socially defined but it's like that's like when Toddlers are in emergency situations, they fall asleep. Like it's an evolutionary thing for them to like fall asleep just to be quiet, to help their families or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:31 My toddler never learned that one. No. You're like trying to recreate emergencies just to get a break. You're like, oh no, a robber. My toddler, now six-year-old, but he was evolutionarily designed to create new emergencies when an emergency. That's fair. My daughter, when she was like three, four, would develop this thing where she would talk about if she needed to pee. And I was like, oh, like we really can't, like right now, you know, that would be very inconvenient.
Starting point is 01:00:01 She'll go, she goes, okay, I'll just do the trick. And I'm like, and for a while I was like, great, okay, you're doing the trick. And then after a while I was like, wait a minute, what's the trick? She's just like, I just decided I don't need to pee anymore. I was like, my God. I mean, the mind over matter is incredible, but yeah, she's just, she just developed her own trick where she just doesn't need to go to the bathroom anymore, which made me question, which made me question whether she ever really needed to go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And then I think that gets into this sort of sociological element to this, which is she likes a trip to the bathroom or whatever. Jodi, believe little women. Okay. Believe little women. But they say they have a trick to just not have to pee anymore. Yeah. This one trick that doctors don't want you to know.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Life hack. Make it so you never have to go to the bathroom again. Just do it. It's the Nike logo. I do like to sometimes take have to go to the bathroom again. Just do it. It's the Nike logo. I do like to sometimes, you know, take a little stroll to the bathroom, even if I don't have to go too bad. I like to see what the bathroom of a given restaurant is. Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 01:00:53 I love that. Should I have that candle? Stretch the legs. Yeah, whether they have the candle. Oh, they have great lighting. No. Beautiful. Whether they have one of those weird sinks that like doesn't really have a basin,
Starting point is 01:01:03 you know? Have you ever seen those? Those are starting to be a thing. Oh, yeah. Like Kim Kardashian, Kanye, did you ever see the pictures of the inside of their kitchen where it's like a faucet on a countertop and then a little line? And the water runs off into it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:19 I will say going to the bathroom, I was kind of joking earlier, but it also is a really great place to check in with women. I've made so many friendships in bathrooms that have been lasting, honestly. When I wasn't in stand-up, I went to SketchFest with my boyfriend at the time who was doing improv and I met so many stand-ups, so many female stand-ups, and we were just lounging in this nice-ass bathroom and we were bonding and I kept in touch with them and like ask them standup advice and everything like later on but it really like I think it really is for women like a great check-in and a place of like comfort and like support for each other.
Starting point is 01:01:57 It's beautiful. So wait take us take us inside this because Jack will do that but I won't I won't go I won't just go barging in to check it out. Yeah yeah Jack's always going into women's restroom. inside this bathroom, because Jack will do that, but I won't. I won't just go barging in to check it out. Yeah, yeah. Jack's always going into women's restrooms. I'm always going to check in with women at the restroom. Yeah. Does the chit chat and the bonding happen as you're walking in?
Starting point is 01:02:13 Everywhere. And does it contain you as you're peeing? Are you even peeing? It just depends. Often there are lines, which, you know, that's an issue. Women's bathrooms lines are longer. Yeah, which like we should have more stalls. We should figure it out.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Whatever non-binary bathrooms. Not in this America. Yeah. But we sometimes we'll make we'll chit chat in the line. And then sometimes sometimes it happens in the stall. Like if you run out of toilet paper, if you need a tampon, if like some, you know, sometimes you're there with friends and then somebody else hears and makes a joke or something or like at the sink it just is it's just a beautiful place for for camaraderie you know it's i just love it i'm like men need more of this that's the put all the men who are in the loneliness epidemic in a bathroom together in a
Starting point is 01:03:01 nice bathroom yeah peeing Peeing alone. That's the next book. Yeah. Don't you guys all just pee in a trough? Isn't that? That used to be the way back when men were men. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I've been to like really old sporting event venues like Fenway Park and the Kentucky Derby like in field are the places I've been where everybody's just standing around a single trough peeing into it and just mostly pretty drunk. So everyone's cool with it. Yeah. Can we go back to the study for a second? Because there's one line you read where the scientists at Kyoto University watched 600 hours of footage of captive chimps and captured quote more than 1328 urination events. Yeah. Probably as a former scientist. Is this a good use of their time? Yeah, I used to watch like rats touch things. I used to have to go through hours of recordings of rats like touching different objects in a circular maze or whatever.
Starting point is 01:04:06 So you do have to sit there and time it and record it and whatever. But especially, I'm assuming with chimps, there's so many, I hate behavioral studies. I hate them so much because it feels so imprecise because they could be influenced by so many things. There was a study that came out that you found out that male researchers affected the behavior of mice differently than female researchers. So it's like people who were involved in the same experiment and were doing it in the same way could still influence the behavior of these animals. The Heisenberg Principle. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:42 We're going to find out that the male influence was just like picking the mice up and like moving them around with their hands. Trying to click them. Yeah. Trying to teach them how to like dap. But yeah, so it's like super informative because that's what you can do to watch behaviors of animals. You just have to watch like a bunch of footage and record it. It's strict of a measurement as you can. But... This is the sort of thing when we always bring up when AI is used in a way that is like, guys, not this. We don't need a worse Coke commercial that's just a smoothie made of every previous Coke commercial. This would be like, scroll through the 600 hours to find the urination events. That's great.
Starting point is 01:05:28 That is AI. That's something that I don't mind if a person is not doing. Yeah, there is a lot of that of like trying to automate some of these like image processing or video processing things. Like that's something that like I even like worked on at the, in one of my rotations or whatever at my PhD.
Starting point is 01:05:45 But sometimes there's qualitative things too that they want to observe and it depends on how the tech is. Like is that champagne or not? I mean, that's a difficult AI task. Yeah. And like the duration and yeah. Wait, is it this actually a storyline in that show Silicon Valley where they design an app to see
Starting point is 01:06:10 penises and porn and then or for hot dogs and then it actually is able to identify penises and porn? I know there's some great something like that. It's a great storyline. That show continues to be the most pressure show there is. But it's literally tech people loved that I was in the bay when that was happening and tech people were like that is us. We do have a concert. I'm like, oh, no, it shouldn't be. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. Means the world to Miles.
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