The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 360 (Best of 2/24/25-2/28/25)

Episode Date: March 2, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Calling all 9-9ers, now streaming. It's the More Better podcast with two episodes of Brooklyn Nine-Nine Fun. Host Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero welcome former castmates Chelsea Paredi and Joe Lattrullio for one episode each to laugh and swap stories. Like Andre would always be like, trying something and they're like, do less. Yeah. Do less. Do less all the time. But then some of the biggest things were the biggest hits, like Vindication, remember?
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Starting point is 00:01:49 out. Listen up first from NPR on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello the internet and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh stravaganza. So without further ado, here is the weekly Zeitgeist. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the driving forces behind coolzone media They're a writer and host on it could happen here. Yeah other cool zone shows
Starting point is 00:02:31 They make everyone on this podcast feel old as fuck. Please welcome the young the talented I like Fettucine Alfredo, maybe like twice a year. Oh I I like fettuccine Alfredo maybe like twice a year. Oh Of course, you're okay. There's a limit That it's a little much. Yeah twice a year. I sometimes will be like, you know what I want. I want some Alfredo Yeah, yeah. Yeah, give me that Alfredo. Give me that freight. I mean, I don't know why I'm acting like I'm over the cream I still like eggnog. Okay. Whoa. Okay. Yeah. No you you cannot like eggnog. Okay, whoa, okay. Yeah, no, you cannot be talking this as you're chugging down the nog. But I am also an eggnog defender. But hey now, but hey now, like you can't you can't be trash and clam chowder and then like chugging eggnog secretly. You're like you like turn around,
Starting point is 00:03:19 you have a hidden jug. Come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say the thing that I like about eggnog is that it doesn't have any chunks of clam in it Okay Personally I got a I gotta show you the thing I make every Christmas clam No Garrison it's been way too long Very too long. How have you been? I've been good. I moved to the East Coast of the United States of America.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Oh, wonderful. I have been unbelievably busy and had my mind destroyed attending political conventions last year. Yeah. Yeah, you were at the RNC. How did you get on purpose? Yeah, and the DNC, and frankly,
Starting point is 00:04:02 the DNC actually was more of like a drill to my mind. Like, I was prepared for the RNC. I have like psychic defenses, right? I'm like good. The DNC like messed me up, though. We study these people. What is it about? Is it the dissonance of the DNC? What about the DNC was so... How unserious they are. Yeah, we talk about...
Starting point is 00:04:23 I like the drill to the head, to the brain reference, the end of pie. We, we talk about taking a Theragun to the head. Yeah. Being the- More sustainable way. Thing that we all need. Yeah, more sustainable.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yeah, some weeks, some weeks it'd be like that. Just at the beginning. Monday morning, hard reset is what we call it, you know? Just a Theragun to the temple. But yeah, what, what about the? What was it about the DNC? The dissonance is like one aspect. It's also like, it's everyone's so convinced that like they're like the adults there, like this is, this is the real adult convention. You know, we're not doing that, that crazy stuff like the other table
Starting point is 00:05:01 is doing. This is, this is the adults table. Meanwhile, as they completely like lose touch on like the cultural moment and refuse to stand up for the things that they you know You know would nominally claim to like care about and just right demonstrate complete spinelessness I don't know It was it was it was very it was very disheartening More so than just the the kind of wacky bizarro land of the RNC which while like and just the kind of wacky, bizarro land of the RNC, which while arguably slightly more evil, I'm so prepared for it,
Starting point is 00:05:28 because it's the obvious mass deportation convention is the biggest thing there. Yeah, we uncovered this video in the aftermath that I guess other people had known about, about this Kamala Harris activation at Fashion Week. Is that where it was? Paris Fashion Week or New York Fashion Week. New York Fashion Week. Yeah. That was just, had like a Wright's Jenga tower and a like grab them by the pussy grabber
Starting point is 00:05:58 claw machine. UFO catcher. And just all these like weird, like things that you would swear were like 2015 satire. They weren't there at an event. Those like hot girl, Brett summer wall where you can take a picture and prove that you're the Brett of the Harris campaign. It was so wild, but yeah, again, makes you feel like it just feels like a dream I would have when I am spiking the worst fever in the history of my body. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Last year was a really dark summer. Yeah. Yeah. I think you mispronounced Brett. Brett, I think. It was a really Brett summer. That's right. Yeah, you just wear it, Brett Green, like Timothee Chalamet.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And then like all your worries go away. Yeah, wear a brat green, like Timothy Chalamet. And then like all your worries go away. Yeah, that's true. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? You know, as the skateboarding liaison to this podcast, what I was looking up, I was just in Arizona for the slow impact gathering, which is this like a kind of academic skateboard conference thing. So I was looking up the schedule for that, but it is so sick.
Starting point is 00:07:12 It's put on by this dude, Ryan Lay, who's pro for New Balance and sci-fi fantasy. And so many highlights. I got to do standup for like a hundred skateboarders in Macau town, skate shop out there, which is a rad skate shop. Met some pros, just 16 year old Mort was just thrilled with the whole thing. It was.
Starting point is 00:07:32 That's pretty cool. Yeah. You are skateboarding as you're doing standup and they're skateboarding along with you. Is that correct? Yeah. And I'm failing. You just have a really long board. Yeah. Oh, I broke my wrist. Yeah. Those are closer. Nice. What slow impact? It's called slow impact. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 00:07:52 It's like there's a there's a guy, the student, Ted Schmidt, who's got a PhD in architecture, and he took us around, gave us a tour of ASU. Or he just talked about like this building was built by Frank Lloyd Wright's son. And this ledge is one of the earliest flat top ledges in Arizona like shit like that it was very niche and very fascinating yeah was Frank Lloyd Wright's son like a great architect and also a skater he was a uh not a skater his son-in-, but very clearly was like Frank Lloyd Wright made a building there and it's huge.
Starting point is 00:08:29 And then Frank Lloyd Wright's son in law has one that's like kind of standing in its shadows sort of sadly in this like Oedipal complex way that Ted Smith pointed out. Yeah, it was wow. It never ends. That's Frank Lloyd Wright. I'd hate to be a flank road wrong. I also I think I this no bit I think my wife read like a
Starting point is 00:08:51 Slightly erotic novel about Frank Lloyd Wright, and I think it was called loving Frank if I'm off I Hold on if I'm off loving Frank book. More like Frank Horny, right? There it is. Thank you. Also really good. Also really good, guys. Yeah, it was about an adulterous affair that he had with a woman.
Starting point is 00:09:16 All right, there you go. So yeah, if you want to get horny. A woman. A woman? Can you read that quickly? And you can find other steamy descriptions like that in the book. Yeah, so here comes Frank Lloyd Wright and there's this woman and they're going to get it on, I guess.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I don't know. He took off whatever the hell it was. She was wearing. You describe it as somewhat erotic, and then that's exactly what your description. That is the genre, actually. It's not erotic fiction. It's somewhat erotic. And then that's exactly what your description. That is the genre. Actually, it's not erotic fiction. It's somewhat erotic fiction. They say you're the ballpark. They tried it.
Starting point is 00:09:53 They tried it. Give it a shot. I left a shot. And it was pretty OK. They weren't sure if they're going to keep doing it. But, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jack word. Oh, no. He, uh, he, uh, got bored.
Starting point is 00:10:06 It got so clinical. There's some wild, uh, wild stuff. I went and saw, uh, falling water. I think that's the big famous house outside of Pittsburgh that Frank Lloyd Wright made, and there's a story from his past that I don't, I don't have in front of me, but it's basically basically this horrible horror movie-style massacre that happened at his house to his family while he was out of town. It's a little known story that's worth looking up. I'll give you a little Wikipedia wreck if you want to look up.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Wait, Frank Lloyd Wright's family? Frank Lloyd Wright's family. Whoa. What? Fucking wild. Yeah, like this beautiful house that he had built and then one of the people who worked there just went wild with an axe one day on the whole family. It's a crazy story.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Holy moly. Beth, that's not in your little kind of sort of erotic fiction book, Blake. Yeah. I like it. This is a comedy podcast. I'm really sorry I said Frank horny, right? Yeah, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Guy was horny though. I think he was out of account on an affair. So, you know. I have one more story that I think is interesting from this skate weekend, which is that, okay, there's this pro named Tom Carrangelo, he's sick, he's pro for New Balance, and he's like an interesting artful dude, which skateboarding is an art form, whether you recognize it or not.
Starting point is 00:11:37 So he had this interview where he was talking about he goes like- Not on this podcast, out on this podcast. You guys are pro cop. I know that you guys don't you hate beautiful. Why can't you listen to them when they say no skating? Yeah, why can't you listen to them? Yeah. So this dude does this did this thing where he's a cinephile. So he goes to all these different places and looks for skate spots and he's super into John Carpenter. So there's just there's this whole thing where they follow him around like all of Pasadena to all these different parts where they filmed Halloween and he's like spots around there and my wife is
Starting point is 00:12:15 friends with John Carpenter kind of like He's a big gamer and she is in the gaming industry. She does voice She's like the head of a franchise. She does video game voices. And I sent I had her send John Carpenter this interview with this skateboarder. And then he responded so that I was able to tell Tom Karangelo like, hey, John Carpenter saw that video. I know that for sure.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And he was like, dude, that made my life. Thank you so much. Like he was so hyped to hear this. It was just a true life highlight for me. Yeah, that's such a fun epilogue to a career. John Carpenter, one of the great filmmakers, maybe the greatest of the 80s and people are like, why doesn't he make movies anymore?
Starting point is 00:13:03 Did he pass away? It's like, no, he just discovered video games and he are like, why doesn't he make movies anymore? Did he pass away? It's like, no, he just like discovered video games. And he was like, holy shit, these are so fucking fun. This is sick. It just doesn't make movies anymore. People are like, why don't you make movies? Video games are really fun. I just like to get high and watch video games.
Starting point is 00:13:19 It's like an angsty teen in his basement. He's like, I don't want to work. Yeah, basically. And he any place he we went and saw him at the Palladium and it's pretty sick. He has a band that just plays John Carpenter style music and there's like smoke effects and it's like pretty dark. Yeah. Yeah. He made so cool. He made a lot of music for his movies. Yeah. What is something that you think Alex is underrated?
Starting point is 00:13:48 I I don't know if it's underrated because I don't know how it's being read I know it's being read outside of the state of maine But how it's being read inside of the state of maine is different as as I think you know I'm originally from the state of maine and our Governor of the state of maine. Uh, janet mills Uh did a little Trump clap back this week. And I think like it's being properly rated by anyone outside of the state of Maine. And I think people inside of the state of Maine have like weird sort of conflicted partisan feelings about it.
Starting point is 00:14:16 But I just want to say that it should be better rated than it is that at least one governor had in Maine had the strength to push back against extreme government overreach. Yeah. And I mean, Trump really showed how strong he was by just picking on the woman in the room immediately to fucking be like, where are you at? You're not going to comply? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah. They're like, there's a lot of others. I think you're going to comply. I think you will. Yeah, well, I'll see you in court. When he said, okay, we'll see you in court. Yeah, okay. Well, yeah, well, I'll see you in court. When he said, okay, we'll see you in court, yeah, okay, we'll win that one really easy. It turned into a weird fucking bingo hall argument so quickly from Trent.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Last word off. Yeah, yeah, all right, asshole. Yeah, yeah, good luck with that shit. It just makes it... What? Puts me at a total loss for why everyone who disagrees with them doesn't do it, because I know that obviously they're going to do some sort of insane theatrical investigation or whatever in order to do it. But he just looks so silly when anyone says, nah, no.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Yeah. Right. Because she's like, I think the line was like, well, we're going to comply with the federal. I was like, yeah, well, I am though. We are the federal law. I am the law. All right. All right, dude. Famously. I was like, yeah, well, I am the, we are the federal law. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:27 All right, dude. Famous, famous. The Dane Pardo there. Don Pardo. Don Pardo. Don Pardo. Thank you so much for coming to my daughter's wedding. Yeah. And so you're saying that in Maine people are mad because
Starting point is 00:15:40 yeah, like people I know, people I know who I, who I like and respect, but maybe have different political opinions on it, are kind of reading it like, why are we threatening our state funding by taking on this fight? And it's like, well, we're doing it because government overreach is bad. In the end, it might be bad. I don't know if I get it. People there are well-meaning people who see this because they don't see trans people as equal. And don't realize that there are like what, a handful of visibly or sort of like identifiably
Starting point is 00:16:21 trans people who play sports at this level in the first place. So this is just an entirely made up fight. They imagine that this is a silly thing to put state funding at risk for when in fact, it's like, yeah, you should push back against this in any form that it comes up. This is bad. I guess, yeah, when you say like, I think we have different political views, yours, Alex Bing, I like to speak up against stuff and they're like keep your fucking head low Man, man, shut the fuck up about fucking yeah. Yeah. I am allergic to keeping my head low. So yeah Yeah, welcome. You would have done bad in World War one, but we're glad you're here now
Starting point is 00:17:02 I have been told by snipers that I would not do well in the battlefield. What's something you think is overrated, Vince? Yes, television. Not, you know, not prestige TV. What are you doing to us, dude? Not prestige TV like our podcast. We're trying to let people know. Underrated celebrity hosted podcast, overrated prestige TV.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Alright, fuck us all. No, it's just, it feels like homework now. You can't, it's just every, it's just, there's a bunch of different shows on a bunch of different channels and you can't remember which one and like where you're watching each of them and how far you're in.
Starting point is 00:17:39 It's just, it's too much. It's like my brain, my ADD brain, it's having a lot of trouble with it these days I think like I maxed out at whatever the program offerings were around 2006 or something. Oh, yeah, I was around like when I'm like, yeah, bro. I'm up on everything Yeah, that was our most things. I was like every show was good. Yeah. Yeah, right. Oh, maybe that's what I'm thinking back Yeah, what happened to when it was good? Yeah, right. Oh, maybe that's what I'm thinking back. Yeah, what happened to when it was good? Well, they still knew they were making TV back in the day and now they're like, we're gonna make a 12 part movie and I'm like, guess what? That's not how I'm watching it. And now I don't know what's going on in Severance anymore. And I don't feel like going back to try and figure it out.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Yeah, too complicated. I lost. Is there like a, I mean, Vince and Matt, like you guys are, you talk about hashtag content a lot. Is there a phrase for like this feeling? Cause I think I talk about this a lot. That's why I don't know half of the Marvel films. Cause there's too many came out and I'm like, bro, at a certain point, the discourse just takes off and I'm like, bro, I'm not putting in the fucking effort to be able to participate.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Cause I didn't care enough to begin with. But like the that feeling of being overwhelmed by the amount of fucking TV and streaming shit that is and I fuck it all. Actually, I'm a watch old episodes of some other shit. I think, yeah, I think we're all siloed, like in our different, you know, content bubbles. And I think like we've maybe passed peak piggy like a few years ago, because like at a certain point, like Marvel stopped making movies that were supposed to, you know, I mean, they still want them to be big events, but they
Starting point is 00:19:11 listened to the piggies way too much. So now they are like strictly for like the hardcore Marvel piggy that really the hogs are in control of the slot factory, the hogs are at the wheel of the tractor. in control of the slot factory. The hogs are at the wheel of the tractor. Yeah. And so like you end up having way too much content out there that's all shitty and is all, what's worse is it's all interconnected.
Starting point is 00:19:35 So in order to understand one piece of slot, you have to already be familiar with the previous slot portions. Yes. And it's just- And if you're watching a Marvel movie, like you kind of judge the reactions of the people around you to figure out if you're supposed to know a character that shows up on screen. You need the emotional cues to understand a superhero movie. I know, I was, I forget what I was about to say,
Starting point is 00:19:57 it's like the kind of show like a character will come in, like peek their head and be like, oh sorry and close the door and it was like, woo! Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm supposed to know him. You're like, oh, sorry, and close the door. And it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm supposed to know him.
Starting point is 00:20:06 You're like, they've been doing that with the goddamn winter soldier for like the last 10 years. Every single time I've seen him on screen, there's been like this reaction where everybody's like, oh, my God, it's Bucky Barnes. I'm like, I don't know who that is. Why do I? Why am I supposed to know that?
Starting point is 00:20:20 If the only monkey I know is from season one, a flavor of love. That's right. That's right. That's right. Maybe not TV back to 2006. I'm stuck 19 years ago. You should try it out. Gen Z.
Starting point is 00:20:34 You know what though? Like the whole country is stuck in that era because that was the era of programming that gave us the apprentice, which essentially created the myth of Donald Trump. Like before that, like he was a failed businessman. They went into Trump Tower, I just read one of the books about Trump. The producers of that show went into Trump Tower
Starting point is 00:20:52 and they're like, man, it smells like mildew, the carpet is worn out, this place is a piece of shit. They had to rebuild it as a TV set for a show about a successful businessman. And that's like the basis of his entire persona now, rather than like the office of like a tow truck yard. Yeah. The fuck is that dude?
Starting point is 00:21:14 Oh, I got some old nachos in here. It was like, yeah. You're like your grandma. But I'm trashy. Oh, don't go into that room. It's just double quarter pounder wrappers. That and also just the tostada, just the bowl part. I like to eat the good part of the tostada.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I throw the corn bowl out. You can reuse the bowl. The corn bowl. Bring me another corn bowl, please. Lisa, did you finish your corn bowl? Can I have it? I can't do the accent as well as you guys. Accent.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Accent. Accent work. It's an accent. Yeah, yeah. Oh, have you seen that dude who's recently killing it with the Elon? Oh my god, that dude's amazing. Who is that guy, bro? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I saw that shit, I was like, you have fucking- I have not seen it. Oh, here, I'll play it. I'll play it. I have not seen that. Oh, what was that? You guys get it? You guys get it?
Starting point is 00:22:02 What happened with your arm there, Steven? I was trying to make sure you knew that I was just doing the pun What happened with your arm there, Steve Banner? I was trying to make sure you knew that I was just doing the pun. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. This is this guy, Alex Byron. Yeah, it's not really about that. People expect everything to be easy now on Mars.
Starting point is 00:22:17 It's going to be really hard. So, you're not going to wish there were Uyghurs. Would you? You're gonna wish there were Uyghurs. It's so fucking what to point. It's just yeah. It's funny. I think every Trump administration brings up the rise of the people who are just killing the fucking accents. It was a Tamanic last time. And now it's this guy.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Well, anyway, let's take a quick break. We'll come back to talk about. Oh, yeah, fucking right wing shit. All right. Right after this. Hey, y'all, it's your girl, cheekies, and I'm back with a brand new season of your favorite podcast, cheekies and chill. I'll be sharing even more personal stories with you guys. And I know a lot of people are gonna attack me. Why are you gonna go visit your dad?
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Starting point is 00:26:19 We're back. And so, Garrison? Yeah. Garrison, what's going on? What's going on? What the fuck is, what's going on? What the fuck is, what is all this? What happened?
Starting point is 00:26:29 I'm sorry, guys. One of the points you made that is sort of how I experienced the whole Doge thing is that Doge as a concept started out as everybody being somewhat dismissive and being like, well, they can't do anything. Yeah, like the fucking stupid meme concept. Like, come on. Right. Yeah, exactly. Everybody was just like, this is dumb.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Oh, your shitcoin is going to be a government agency? Okay. It's not even a real agency. It's an advisory commission. They can't do anything. Right. Yeah. It's just a dumb meme thing. They literally named it Doge. Like, it's so ridiculous. And weeks later, we're all like, Oh, no. Turns out they can't do stuff. Yeah, I guess. Somehow. Well, what happened? Hey, hey, what happened? Um,
Starting point is 00:27:21 What happened? Hey, hey, what happened? Um, yeah, I mean, I guess we kind of forgot that like, you know, they don't need to follow the rules. Like, it doesn't matter. Like they can, they can, they can just do stuff. Yeah, I guess certainly like dropping in Doge with the United States digital service, like it was like, you know, kind of their way like around, around this, but even still like they are not even playing in the court where you need to use Congress to create agencies because they're shutting down agencies without Congress.
Starting point is 00:27:52 They just don't care. And they're waiting to see if anyone's going to stop them, namely the courts. And if the courts do stop them, who's going to enforce the will of the court? And they're just fine doing that because there's no consequence if they play that game anymore. They have immunity and pardon power. So like, they're giving it the shot because they don't believe in the same like rules of decorum that like the Democrats TM typically do. You know, when Biden had that whole press conference after the Supreme Court made the president a king, he's like, this is a dark day for democracy. I hope that myself and any future president never uses this power.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And you're like, okay, buddy, well, guess what the next one's going to do? Do you want to use this power to solve that problem right now? You could. You might as well try it out. See how it fits. And now we're here. So I don't know, it's certainly like both myself and others underestimated, like specifically like Musk and like Doge's ability to actually enforce their recommendations.
Starting point is 00:28:53 And I think Trump has been more of like an absent executive figure than what I would have previously suspected. He's kind of just letting Musk do whatever he wants. Right. I'm curious, I'm just trying to think of how the influence is working in the White House because clearly Musk is in proximity to Trump enough that he's everywhere and he's the one, be like, Hey, let me talk over you in the oval. Let me talk over you during this interview. He's in the White House nonstop. Like he has his headquarters set up in a specific wing. I can try to pull it up.
Starting point is 00:29:28 But no, he has a headquarters there. He has his own Diet Coke button, but for ketamine. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, who knew that we could make ketamine not cool? I know. But just thinking of the latest spat that's happening in Doge White House world, which is his letter to just like, just like thinking of like the latest sort of spat that's happening in Doge White House world, which is his like letter to be like, write down your five greatest hits or fucking leave email that he sent to all these federal workers. And then having many, many appointees like Trump appointees tell their sort of subordinates, just please fucking ignore what you just saw.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Like we're talking about DOD, like, you know, you can't share classified information or email. Department of Energy, Health and Human Services, DHS, like they're all like, dude, please fucking ignore this. This isn't Twitter. You can't like this. The different rules apply. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:22 So I'm curious because clearly Musk thinks none of those rules apply. But then you have the people who are a little bit more sort of of the wonky machinery of DC, who are also trying to ascend to power via Project 2025 or whatever. Yeah. That do you see like a certain wing having any more influence? Because I feel like clearly Musk helped Trump. Trump feels indebted to Musk. Therefore, he's like, let it cook. But then Project 2025 is like the way that he's like,
Starting point is 00:30:48 we're going to get a bunch of conservatives on board if you promise to do X, Y and Z. But at times it seems like they're, they can slightly be at odds at times with in terms of how they want to move forward with that. Do you see one having more of an advantage over the other right now in terms of how you're seeing things sort of unfold?
Starting point is 00:31:05 I mean, I would say Musk kind of right now has more sway just through the sheer individual power Musk has. The types of connections he has to the tech world, the actual money and capital he has, the influence. And then, yeah, all of Musk's work to help get Trump elected. I also think Trump has an internal barometer of who to respect. And it's only like based on money. And so he has, and how much you succeeded in fucking other people over, which Musk is Musk is good at. Like he's not a good inventor.
Starting point is 00:31:36 He's not a good engineer. He's good at fucking people. Um, and Trump like kind of respects that. And, and, and also like Trump knows that Musk can never like usurp him as president, technically, because he can't run legally. So in fact, he just has this shadow president aspect going on. But no, there is, you know, parts of like the heritage people might be a little bit annoyed at like Musk's like, like very oversized influence.
Starting point is 00:32:03 There's been people like in the Trump admin or like the Trump orbit who have, who have like complained about Musk to press before. But I think in order to make any of the Project 2025 stuff work, you first need Musk to purge the government. So they're letting him do it. Because also it's, as soon as they step too far, Musk is the easiest guy to cut out.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Be like, all right, all right, this thing was bad. If you need someone to blame, we'll blame this rich weirdo from South Africa. It's very handy to keep him around. And they need him to do the dirty chopping work. And he's willing to do it. And he's demonstrated an ability to dismantle and detonate like large, large, large bureaucratic machines, whether that's SpaceX, Tesla, Twitter, and now the United States government. Right. And I guess to that end, right, because I know I get that usual Trump shit will be
Starting point is 00:32:58 like, I will let this person cook until it's really untenable for me. And then I'll blame them and act like, I don't know, we got him out. I'm okay though. But then I'm curious if Musk is wielding any more influence over Trump, that's going to make that difficult. Like then what happens when like that schism happens if it happens, if it happens. Right. Like I, I thought, I thought it would for a while.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I just thought like Trump's not going to want to be around like, like Elon Musk's like like autism, frankly, because like, you know, Trump's Trump's has a has a past of making fun of people and being very ableist. And like I simply didn't think that he would be able to be in the same room as Musk for very long. But they have so clearly and openly closed ranks the past few weeks, like like like doing media appearances together, being like, like we know people are like wanting us to turn on each other. And like, we're not going to do that. So like there is some awareness, at least from like Musk and Trump, that like people are like rooting for them to like get into a fight. And they've they're intentionally like having that not happen. Right? Yeah. Because right now it's benefiting both of them massively. Like it's what Elon's doing is allowing Trump to enact so many more things that otherwise he wouldn't be like,
Starting point is 00:34:08 you know, legally allowed to do because the bureaucratic mechanisms of government are there as safeguards, not just, you know, Congress and not just the courts. Like bureaucracy helped inhibit Trump from enacting a whole bunch of the more extreme aspects of his agenda in his first term. And now that there's this like shared recognition of that, Trump is more than happy to let Elon Musk do the work to dismantle those roadblocks to then have Trump embrace total executive power. You mentioned the idea of, you know, we're all waiting to see if the courts hold, right? And I'm just, for that to happen, like, obviously we need judges to, you know, strike things down or say, hey, that's not legal.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Here's a temporary restraining order. Yeah. Right. And then we need the Trump administration and Elon Musk and everybody to actually respect that. I guess I'm wondering, you mentioned how the will of the courts will be enforced. What would that look like? A conflict between them choosing not to respect the will of the courts
Starting point is 00:35:22 and the courts having to try to enforce their will. What would that look like in the modern world? I mean, this is the big question right now. I am not a constitutional law professor. I only talk to them to get their thoughts. And this is the big thing, right? It's what if the court issues are ruling and Trump just says, LOL, no, thank you, and they keep on doing what they are doing, which that has happened. That has been happening. There is still grants and funding that has not resumed. They have continued to reiterate that they have the power to limit USAID funding, even though they've been ordered by the court to restore it. So like they
Starting point is 00:36:01 are actively defying the court's orders increasingly so and becoming more brazen about, you know, using rhetoric regarding like, if a judge is ordering something illegal, you just don't need to follow the judge, which is like, you know, massive constitutional red flag. And what will it take, right? Like they're going to appeal these orders all the way up to the Supreme Court, probably, as far as they can. The fact that they're defying the orders during this process is itself new and bad. Like you're not supposed to do that either, but no one is going to physically stop them. Who is going to actually stop them from doing that? And at a certain point, if the Supreme Court rules that Trump is in contempt. And, you know, like, who will stop that? Like, are they going to, like, do you think the U.S. Marshals are going to arrest the
Starting point is 00:36:50 president, the president that has Supreme Court approved immunity for official actions? Like, who will actually carry out, like, any order that is revolving around, like, Trump being in contempt of court for just actively defying the authority of the judicial branch. Will Secret Service let that happen? Will the private military contractors that Trump has surrounded himself with, thanks to Elon Musk, will they let Marshals even carry out that order? Will the Marshals want to do that themselves? Will more and more agencies in local law enforcement and federal be roped under the the FPS, the Federal Protective Service?
Starting point is 00:37:30 More of these could get put under the control of P-TEG, like directly. And at this point, it's like it's like a it would that would be like that would be like a military assisted coup where they're like cooing the judiciary as they've kind of already couped Congress. Right. So this is this is the big thing that like we are waiting to see what will happen. And like I can't say for sure because I'm not familiar in any situation quite like this in American history. Yeah. Like it's very weird and frightening. And like for me, it's weird to be like I'm thinking about like every day like we are like in the middle of like an actual coup of the United States, like people are doing these steps. And coups can happen internally, like that this is this is a real thing that is happening. And most people, at least like interact with outside and just like don't realize this, they just like don't know the severity of like what has happened. And this isn't like being like hyperbolic or anything. It's like this is literally what is going on right now. If you have the executive branch bypass and deny
Starting point is 00:38:30 both the legislative and the judicial branches, that is actual, people throw around the word fascist way too much and they have for the past eight years. And you don't even need to use that word. They're trying to basically install like a monarchy and that is that is the language that Trump is using. He is he is referred to himself as a king in like the past week. Right. What do you think the chances are we have another presidential election like in twenty twenty eight?
Starting point is 00:38:59 I part I personally and I have like friends and like analysts who who I respect, who might even disagree with me on this, we might have a different opinion, I think there probably will be a presidential election. It may look different, it may operate different, the mechanisms of securing votes and people's access to voting may be very different if you need to provide proof of citizenship at every polling station and they deny people's proof to voting may be very different, right? If you need to provide like proof of citizenship at every polling station and they deny people's proof of citizenship because you're a trans person with an old passport that has a different gender marker, so now they're not going to accept your vote, right?
Starting point is 00:39:34 There's a whole bunch of things that could alter the way an election takes place. I think that there probably will be a presidential election, but I don't know, man. I'm trying to survive day by day. Like it's, this is such a new situation and it's very freaky. I mean, like the last time I get like the more famous example that people point to is Andrew Jackson being like, yeah, the Supreme Court says I can't just move
Starting point is 00:39:58 like native American. Like I'll do whatever I want. Now let me see them trying to force this shit. And that was all bad. Yeah, it gave us that is the closest like mirror we have. And like, you have someone like Vance, who is openly using that rhetoric. Yeah, exactly. Like openly saying, like, if the courts, if the courts do that, like, have the president go out and say, all right, now force it. Let them enforce it. Try. Try me. Yeah. Yeah. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:40:26 It's all like, yeah, it's very, very disorienting. And I think that's like the one thing that I see a clip that came up recently is one of like Russell Vought, who's, you know, one of the architects of Project 2025, who's now the head of Office of Management and Budget OMB saying like prior to the election, that the whole goal with all of these cuts that they're making and is, is basically a terror campaign against the administrative state. And I want to play his words because when you hear it from them, like it's clear that this is, this is
Starting point is 00:40:58 what they've talked about being phase one of how they are going to make this transition to full blown, you know, autocracy or whatever modern new American monarchy with gut with King God Trump at the top. But this is Russell Vought again, talking about this is what we need to do to get this stuff over the line. We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected. We want when they woke up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are so they are increasingly viewed as the villains.
Starting point is 00:41:29 We want their funding to be shut down so that the EPA can't do all of the rules against our energy industry because they have no bandwidth financially to do so. We want to put them in trauma. Yeah, can't do all the rules. Then they can't do their roles on our energy. I mean, that's like what's also infuriating is that this guy has the most coward energy ever as they talk about like his fantasy here. But now they are at the wheel here and they're pretty much doing it. Yeah, they're doing they they frankly have done it like there was an executive order issued last week that
Starting point is 00:42:07 Trump basically said that he has the authority to like rescind regulations that he deems are like illegal. Yeah, which means that you are giving Trump is saying that the executive branch has a power has the power to interpret law to make rescind and interpret law, not just enacted, which is what constitutionally like you're supposed to do is you're supposed to enact the law, to make rescind and interpret law, not just enact it, which is what constitutionally like you're supposed to do is you're supposed to enact a law, right? Right. He's saying like, you can, you can like actually like rescind these laws, something that is,
Starting point is 00:42:33 you know, supposed to be what Congress does. Right. Like it's it's it's seizing complete executive power. Like it's it is it is some form of like, yeah, like, it's like an oligarchic monarchy, like combination. Like it's it's very it's you know, it's similar to like, you know, hungry, similar to to how the Soviet block fell apart. You can look at some like parallels. But this is also like I don't want to overly rely on historical parallels because this is like also like deeply American. This is deeply 21st century.
Starting point is 00:43:02 It has to do with like the Internet. It has to do with like tech agents like it has to do with the internet. It has to do with tech agents. It has to do with big tech, misinformation, disinformation, reality tunneling. It's so modern and it's so American that I hesitate to overly prescribe historical analog. Yeah, I mean, that's the most you can do is just to kind of look back and like, it's kind of like this, but nothing really is a one to one thing.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Because there's no Twitter, there's no, you know, all this misinformation that's around people. Like, and to your point, it's not, it's we can't quite relate it like a one to one thing. It's so unique that I think in 30 years, we will refer to what's happening right now as like, that's what like America did in the 2020s. Like it's just so seismic that like we already kind of like referred to, you know, like the Reagan deregulation, like era of the 80s, right? That's kind of a thing that we like conceptualize as this is so much more than that, like already. And it's just starting.
Starting point is 00:43:59 We're like, what, like a month in? Right. Like, it's it's like the fundamental fabric of our country has been severely altered. Like the country that you knew like two months ago, it's gone. Then the way that it operates, the types of checks and balances it has, the services it provides, that government no longer exists. Like this is a different government now. And it feels weird to like think about that and then watch everyone just kind of carry on
Starting point is 00:44:25 looking at the little black box in their hand. Are you surprised, I guess, that like the New York Times, the Washington Post, like these traditional mainstream media outlets are kind of taking it in stride? Like they're not saying the thing that like this is a coup of the US government, or at least they're not consistently saying that. It's just like kind of one thing at a time. Like they're dipping their toes into it. Sometimes it depends who the journalist is, depends who the writer is. But no, like I think, frankly, people are looking to survive. Like worst case scenario, how can I get out of this? Okay, if this like fun, if this like, continues to fundamentally be a different country, like, like, that's what that's what that's why Jeff Bezos rescinded the Kamala endorsement for the Washington Post, like, you are seeing, like, big tech, whether it's, you know, Tim Apple, whether it's Mark Zuckerberg, whether it's Jeff Bezos, the guy at Google, who forget his name, who like, they have, they have people who have historically provided a degree of resistance
Starting point is 00:45:28 to some of the, you know, the crazy Trump stuff. They are all closing ranks. They're like, we are one class now. And as long as we will look out for each other now, we'll look out for you, Trump, if you look out for us. And like, they are not playing the same game that people played in 2017. Like, there is no hashtag resistance right now. There is like there is like survival. And like that, I guess that's like the big thing that I'm seeing
Starting point is 00:45:52 is people are trying to like survive in case things like. Go, go like really, really bad. Yeah, yeah. For those billionaires, it's clear, like rather than like bail water on the sinking ship, they're just being like, where's my lifeboat? Because I'm not going to fucking help this thing. Like I'm getting the fuck out of this. Yeah. And like, let's take a quick break and come back and we'll talk about that.
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Starting point is 00:49:29 iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. And we're back. And have you guys seen these? We've seen this. You heard about this. You've seen these POV. You wake up in historical period videos. They're going viral on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:49:58 We've got the underscore POV underscore lab. Yes. So they are AI generatedgenerated, right? Underscore lab. Yes, so they are AI-generated. So first of all, I just wanna, I'm gonna have some complaints about these videos in a little bit. I do want to say.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I hope those complaints are somewhat humorous. That's what I'm holding on to. I'm with Mort on this one. I do have a compliment that is in no way humorous. This is the first time I've seen POV used correctly on TikTok ever. Is it like these videos are from the point of view of a character who is waking up,
Starting point is 00:50:38 like he looks down and he sees his feet type thing. Like AI is, it's nerdy enough to get the perspective correct. Yeah. Yes. Well, as opposed to like POV, you just saw like this happen and like that, that is a thing that is used all over TikTok and they never know what POV means. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:58 So you can see your own nose. Right. Right. No, this is just like, just see yourself. It's just, it means nothing. And looking at something. Right. On the other hand, uh, it's basically like a movie of the week level commitment to historical accuracy. And this is not shocking because not only do they use AI to generate the videos,
Starting point is 00:51:21 like that makes, that's what I assumed it meant when it was AI videos. They're using AI and blending together all this different source material to get these videos that ostensibly look like they take place in ancient Egypt or during the Black Plague, but the person also uses AI to do all the research. He just asks ChatGPT to research a time period and then asks for information about what people would have looked like and done. As we've seen ChatGPT and, fucking sucks at answering questions like that. Google asked it for cheese facts for their Superbowl commercial. And the cheese fact that came back with that they featured in their Superbowl
Starting point is 00:52:13 commercial was a Gouda is I think responsible for like 60% of cheese consumption in the world, like some, some fact that is like so obviously false that like any of us could have. So why can you show that, but not say this is a Nazi salute, right? Exactly. Like what the fuck is going on? We're trying to destroy truth.
Starting point is 00:52:36 So you have, when you have a thing that is about facts and is saying things definitively, you want it to be not true. So that when something definitively horrible happens, that you can be like, we don't know. I mean, fucking Google says Gouda is responsible for most cheese consumption. Obviously that's not true, but you know, what is truth anymore? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:53:02 We'll be right back. You're listening to iHeartRadio on 96.6 The Sixth. Wait, 96.6 is called The Sixth? Yeah. What a weird choice by that. I don't know what they were doing over there. Yeah. But let's take quick looks at some of these, some of these videos.
Starting point is 00:53:22 POV, you're a famous painter during the Renaissance, is that? I don't want to watch this one. All right, so this one's during the Black Plague. A lot of horrible shit happening. Real quick, you see a rat that is also a cat walk by. Ah, that's what that was. Yes. This person is, you're buying bread off the filthiest person ever,
Starting point is 00:53:45 giving the bread to another person, and the hands are always visible. That must be something that the AI dictates. Then you give the medicine to an old sick man. So they're not just trying to tell you about history. They are storytellers. And then the person falls over dead. So it's like, you dumbass, you shouldn't have given that medicine to a sick person.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Can I just say on that those like the uncanny, the uncanny valley thing there is like perfectly executed because the eyes of the people suffering from the Black Plague are the most haunted eyes I've ever seen. Yeah. Like that is horrifying. But they all like kind of have beautiful eyes. They are kind of hot. As would be the case as you're dying from plague, you would be, everybody would be kind of hot
Starting point is 00:54:34 and look like they're in like a perfume commercial about the Black Death. Yeah, they all kind of look like Winona Ryder a little bit. Right. Your skin is covered in dirt, but it's gorgeous. Because all they're doing is mixing all the faces from media. And so it's mostly actors, presumably. And so you just have hot people looking a little gaunt.
Starting point is 00:54:59 All right, this one, we're getting to see Pompeii on the day of the eruption. That part is weird. I think it's just a glitch of the AI. The guy's holding his hand out and then opens his mouth, but nothing is said. You know how all the Renaissance painters were like, hey, like and subscribe to my work before they drew it on the ceiling? Right, exactly. Wilt thou match thy lightning? Right, so, but all this like feels like, I don't know, could be somewhat realistic-ish.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Uh-oh, you know what's coming next, this Mount Vesuvius. A piece of pottery just like flies up for no reason. Wait, where is hand? Where are the hands? How am I supposed to understand what's happening if there's no hands? Yeah, POV. This person is pretty chill for being in a POV. Look at that one. Did you guys see that one? Where are they running towards it? They're running towards it. It just goes full roll in Emmerich.
Starting point is 00:56:09 It immediately becomes a river of fire. A river of fire. And then there's like a fire laser beam coming down the street. Like it's the fucking the aliens from Independence Day are attacking. It's like AI Red save the cat. You know where they're at. Put the cat in the tree, but it doesn't understand like that. It can very easily go too far where it's no longer entertaining at all It's just a nightmare. Right? Yeah, this might be the strep talking, but this is the most relaxed I've been in weeks watching that video. I don't know what it is. It really soothed me. What's there is something?
Starting point is 00:56:41 Soothing about it. I will say Like there's just the rhythm of the videos. There's like a, yeah. Slow-mo like shadows. You feel like you're in a dream. Like that has always been the coolest. I think whoever ultimately harnesses what is good about AI will dig into the fact that they just feel like a fucking, the wildest dream you've ever had.
Starting point is 00:57:05 You know, like they feel like an acid trip mixed with just a dream that you remember vividly. Is it because it's like it's so real, but it's detached from reality in the same way that dreams are? Yeah, it's like there's no narrative logic to like the images. You have to like kind of harness it and like press as hard as you can on both sides. Just keep it on the rails a little bit. There are some great ones where they don't do that. It's just like a person in a laundromat turns into a rocket that is flying through the air, turns into an amazing tropical tropical fish turns into like
Starting point is 00:57:46 all these like wild beautiful visuals. I wish they all did end like that was like POV you're like a an 80s musician in a synth band but it just ends with like a volcano and fire. Yeah producer bae dropped one of the chat that says waking up in North Korea. And it's the dumbest video I've ever seen in my life. You have to watch it. They totally mailed it in on this one. It's also shorter. There's so much they could have done with it. They always...
Starting point is 00:58:19 So I feel like they're just like they've skinned one video and then just replace details around it seems to be the thing we do. Right. Man, even AI is cutting corners. That's tragic. Even AI. That is basically all AI does. It's cut corners. It's all these participation trophies we gave AI.
Starting point is 00:58:40 So you wake up North Korea in 2025. Looks like an apartment. An apartment in the Lower East Side. But okay. Learning about how to lead yourself. Actually, it doesn't look bad. Wait, that's not where he was before. And that's the video. And now you've learned everything you need to know about AI, about North Korea and AI.
Starting point is 00:59:10 They learning about our leader. Finally, I like, I like that the paper that they're writing on looks like somebody wiped their ass with it for some reason. Like they can't, they can't have paper. Got to, you got to reuse your toilet paper for writing down notes about Dear Leader. The BBC, because they're good at content, had historians watch these videos because these videos are blowing up. They have five million views.
Starting point is 00:59:38 The historians were pointing out. Some of the stuff was a little pedantic, a little Neil deGrasse Tyson-ish, where it was like, they're reading the hieroglyphics from left to right, and actually it should be right to left. But some of the things they point out is just like, oh, that would have made the video so much more interesting. They point out they did a Chernobyl one, and they were saying they made the technology shittier than it actually was. And the technology in Chernobyl one and they were saying they made the technology shittier than it actually was. And the technology in Chernobyl and in the Soviet Union at that time was actually
Starting point is 01:00:12 pretty impressive and advanced, which is not what you would expect. And that's what is interesting about it. They point out that the bread, you may have noticed that every story focuses on a person holding a piece of bread in front of the camera for some reason. That's because, I don't know, that worked for them in one video, so they added it to all the rest of their videos, just a person holding out bread as we do. I hope everyone starts to turn into bread and the cars are red. You're a piece of bread.
Starting point is 01:00:44 You're a bread man now. They start hiring editors because it's become such a big business. And it's like, where the fuck is the bread in this video? Where's the bread in the JFK assassination? It's the shooter who holds up a piece of bread. And they're firing. Shoot through a bread silencer, like a baguette silencer. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing.
Starting point is 01:01:05 I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing.
Starting point is 01:01:11 I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. I'm firing. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. It is. JFK is just a gingerbread man.
Starting point is 01:01:26 She has her hair in a bun. A big bun. Oh, you didn't. Yeah. There's a croissant driving the limo. It just gets lazier. Anyways, this is I think if you actually used a human to do the research before making these videos, they could be cool, but they instead, instead they have just farmed everything out to chat GPT,
Starting point is 01:01:53 which are you guys encountering people in your lives being like, Hey, I just like stuck this into chat GPT. Like I used AI to fill out this thing for, for us. Like that's so, so there you go. And it's like, this fucking sucks. It's so bad, bad every time. I found it's either people who are being very lazy. And I think that's the best version of it.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I don't feel like doing this. I'm gonna do a JEP GPT, or they have no creative bone in their body whatsoever and and they're dumb And I actually that sounded mean I mean, I mean any other way I Think but I think it's like for a lot of people it's a It's like a thing to brag about it's like remember when like people
Starting point is 01:02:44 First had iPhones and they're like, look, this iPhone can like do a light saber. Yeah. Or like a phone like makes a fart noise. Like, yeah, yeah. Like it's just a thing to be like, I have this thing and I do, I know how to use it. Even though the thing that it does is stupid. Yeah, that's a good point.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Yeah. That's, I think that's a better point where it's almost like a shiny new toy, basically. It's like, hey, look at this cool new toy that you don't know how to use or don't have or have chosen not to use and I'm using it. But then it's like, that's not a good toy. That toy sucks.
Starting point is 01:03:15 There's other toys. These people all think this will swear up and down. This is the future. And like everything is going to run by AI. Which is, I'm having this experience. I don't know why, but I was using it. It seemed like it was better to run by AI. Which is I'm having this experience. I don't know why, but I was using it. It seemed like it was better like a year ago. I don't I'm not like, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Like in my day, AI. But like I basically learned how to do this kind of podcast studio I have in my room almost exclusively because I'm not like very technologically gifted or whatever. Right. But now it's like, yeah, it seems like it's gotten way worse. I don't know. I think it has, isn't there something about it's like, now it's also drawing from AI.
Starting point is 01:03:51 So it's like this sort of like, Oh, like this brain rot. Part of this misinformation loop that that's probably why that Gouda thing happened. You know? Right. Yeah, yeah. Just inevitable, like devolving because it's pulling on itself. Yeah. And this isn't very...
Starting point is 01:04:12 This isn't like a funny take, but I really think my thing is like, I don't actually think AI is the problem. I think capitalism is the problem. Like, AI is just a tool. You know what I mean? Like, if it's a great tool, an artist will use an actor, whoever will utilize it properly. But the problem is, is that we're all almost facing eviction all the time, so we can't afford to lose any fucking jobs. Whereas if that wasn't the problem, we could just use this shit to make things easier for us. You know?
Starting point is 01:04:38 No, not you. Not you. You can't use it for that. The companies can use it for that. Well, that's, you understand what I'm saying, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. And the companies that. Well, that's, you understand what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know.
Starting point is 01:04:46 And the companies own their properties, so they're not going to be affected. They paid off their mortgages, but yeah, it's, they can use it to this point. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, the, the most thoroughly pointless one, they made a Titanic one, like POV, you're a person on the Titanic. As if the movie that the movie Titanic doesn't exist. But then I think they realized that they like, yeah, I think they realized it's pointless because halfway through that video, like as the hallways are like flooding with seawater, the camera like
Starting point is 01:05:16 dips below the water and a shark is coming, coming down the hallway. I think they were just like, you know what, the one way we could have made Titanic better is if there'd been fucking sharks on the boat. I think AI has a fucking- Everyone's floating on pieces of bread. Big loaves. A mother holding its child, but it's a bread. It's a bread loaf, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Yeah. I think AI has a fucking anxiety disorder. Like every it's feels like it's having intrusive Catastrophizing thoughts like no matter what it can only Discuss like terrible catastrophes. Yeah, I think it also yeah It just averages out things that have come before and then also does what you what it thinks you want it to do. Yeah. And so it's just building into expectations. And that is, as I've always said, exactly how great art is created. Average everything before it, imitate that, but do it in a way that you think people want to see it and in no way upsets expectations. And that's how you create great art.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Do no curious exploration in any capacity. No. That's right. Push no boundaries. Yep. That's right. Push. BNB.
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