The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 361 (Best of 3/3/25-3/7/25)

Episode Date: March 9, 2025

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Listen up first from NPR on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Will, do you ever get overwhelmed by how much science happens these days? Constantly. I'm like, ah, there's so much science. I can't keep track of it all. Then it's a good thing our podcast, Part-Time Genius, is counting down the 25 greatest science ideas from the past 25 years. That's right, Mango. We're talking animals. In a paper called, quote, chickens prefer beautiful humans.

Right. This was actually the title of the paper. I like this. They all discovered that much like humans, chickens are attracted to symmetrical faces. Got it. We're talking medical miracles. He's an endocrinologist who found a way to stimulate

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laugh, stravaganza. So without further ado, here is the weekly Zeitgeist. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined once again by Ryder, one of the best podcast hosts and executive producers doing it. Yeah. You know him from stuff they don't want you to know, ridiculous history, missing in Arizona.

It's Ben Bowlin. Ben Bowlin. Oh snap. Picture of Ben Bowlin. Right in. AKA Nilwab Neb. Missed you guys. Nilwab.

Yeah, got the gray miles. Sully out there. You guys, how are you doing? It's been fucking forever. Good, so good. I'm doing great. Everything is great. 2025 started off with a bang.

And yeah, no notes. No notes, no notes. 2025. I love you so much for asking. Love to see an outsider get, go to DC and just kind of shake things up. You know what I mean? Shake things up. To the point where you've killed it. Cause you shook it so hard.

Uh, spelling, spelling shake S H E I K shortly. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. But yeah, no, no, it's cool that we have a Russian president, you know, that's S H E I K shortly. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. But, yeah, no, no, it's cool that we have a Russian president, you know, that's really like, I feel like the news really isn't doing a good job of like acknowledging the moment and that, you know, they, I think they're nailing it. They want to talk about Obama all the time, but they're not talking about our first Russian president. Damn.

I know. Thank you. Or South African president. You know, that's the real DEI, right? That we were looking for as a country. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Sorry.

It seemed like we're going to try and go Trump free on this bitch, but, uh, it does seem like we're, we might be seeing the beginnings of some sort of, uh, the mainstream media waking up because. It's talking up their 401k. You can do whatever that turns out. You can do whatever the fuck you want. As long as you don't mess with just don't fuck up my money. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Can you feed a cat dog food? Oh.

Why did this happen? Why did I search this? Because my husband, Nat Leib, Is that like the Borat equivalent of my wife? Well, it's, it's, it's Melania saying my husband. My husband. Okay. My husband.

He bought the, the dog food for the cat. And so I wanted to know, can you feed the cat dog food? It turns out you can, but it doesn't have the proper nutrients. So only for a little bit. What are the- And that little bit was this morning when she puked. Oh, no. Oh, really?

Wait, so- Why? Because it's so good? Is that wild? Is the nutrients that wildly different? No, the puking was definitely because she got a good can of food this morning and she liked it, so she scarfed it too fast. But then I immediately was like, okay,

it's been five days of us knowing that this is dog food, maybe like a week or 15 days of it actually being dog food. And so we need to swap this shit out. So yes, but yes, there are some nutrients a week or 15 days of it actually being dog food. And so we need to swap this shit out. So yes, but yes, there are some nutrients that cats need, the dogs don't. Dogs I think can eat more veggies. They're like, dogs are super down.

And in fact, it's good to feed dogs like colorful foods, like carrots and sweet potatoes, that stuff is good for them. But cats need just meat. They need- Oh, wow. Rats. Yeah. And also I've been looking up cat health insurance That stuff is good for them. But cats need just meat. They need oh Yeah, yeah, and also

I've been looking up cat health insurance and it's also a racket Everything about that insurance is a fucking racket everything about veterinary care and animal care is a racket equity But I'm like I'm like it's awful I was like, OK, you know what? Go under the house and die. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just let's. That's how veterinarians feel, too. They're like, it's so I can't even give care because the fucking mandate

I get from the corporate overlords is to just like be like, dude, just deny anything. Just tell them the pets are going to die. You can't do anything for them because we're not gonna cover that shit. Just fucking, just fucking leave it. No, it is so wild. Like $260 for a urine test. Excuse me? How much is it?

$260 to test the urine. For a urine test. I'll test that shit for you myself. Yeah, bro. Exactly. If that shit tastes off, I'll know right away. Exactly. For less than 260 bucks. No, but seriously, I'm just like, can we,

I understand obviously, you know, for you, Luigi, we need universal Medicare for all, we need to abolish the private, you know, healthcare system in this country, but also we need Medicare for all for cats. So yes, a lot of feline stuff in my search history. I gotta tell you, the Democrats are not gonna like that talking point.

Yeah. Medicare for all for cats. Francesca, we're trying to, we're trying to get that big D Democrat podcaster spot and I don't just read. Are you guys the Joe Rogan of the left? Please save us. We've already applied and they gave us a swift and unambiguous. No, you may not.

They said Jack wasn't believable as a tough guy and I was quote, not white. Yeah, I tried to act like I knew what MMA was for an episode. Yeah, you're talking about, yeah, it's pretty good for like depression. Like a lot of people are like tinkering with it. It was like an ecstasy, but now like MMA therapy is like really, they're like, get this fucking genie. All right. Well, I was just giggling. I was just giggling. I was just giggling. I was just giggling. I was just giggling. I was just giggling. I was just giggling.

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We're in the middle of it! Paula Viganana's birthday week! And I'm hella busy and an adult, so I can't celebrate this week. But I'm really excited. Jackie's and I are going to go in the future at some point that I won't tell everyone to the Gentle Barn. Have you guys seen, have you heard about the Gentle Barn? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. Is that like up in Santa Clarita area?

Yeah, it's like a farm sanctuary. I follow all these rescue farms and they're so sweet. And they cuddle cows and they like, I feel like every animal is just like some version of a puppy. Like, like, cows are just like milk puppies, you know, turkeys are Thanksgiving puppies. Oh, you're still thinking how you consume them? No, I'm not even, I'm vegan, okay? It's how you consume them. Thanksgiving puppy.

Thanksgiving puppy. But it's just like puppies that we haven't played with yet. You know what I mean? Like they all have personalities, they all have individual emotions and things. They're just like, you know, like, individual, like, emotions and things, you know? They're just like, they all got little things. And so I really love, like, rescue farms because it's just like, kind of the misfit toys of

animals that get to all just like live and thrive. And so I'm really excited to go. I'm going to go to the gentle barn. The Geist child loves animals and like horses and donkeys and shit like that. And everyone's like, you got to take them. You got to take them to the gentle barn. The guy's child loves animals and like horses and donkeys and shit like that. And everyone's like, you gotta take him. You gotta take him to the gentle farm. And I'm like, yeah, let me know how it goes. Let me know how it goes.

Yeah, you can do like, you can cuddle cows. And there was this like viral video that went around a while ago of this woman being like, what is it? It's like, when you get like so like angry because it's something so cute you're like i want to eat your cheeks cute aggression cute aggression yeah yeah and this woman was like you can get it all out that's great you can get it all out on cows you can hug them as

hard as you want because they're so big all right you could just like take out your cute aggression on and so i'm like oh my god i'm gonna cut all the cows so hard it's gonna be none of those cows are like tough guys are they you trying to fight a cow at the. It's gonna be those cows are like tough guys, are they? You try to fight a cow at the gentle bar you say you saying the cow can handle it all Gentle barn are you gonna come in with that energy to the gentle bar? Are you here to assault the animals? No Post up. I just want to know I just want to know I just want to know. I just want to know. I just want to check how they build. But that does make sense because yeah, those animals are so like, I like what I think. They're huge.

The bait. My baby's like going up to like a cat or something. But a big ass cow. I'm like, bro, there's nothing you can do to them. Yeah. Except it's neck lightly. What do you just want to do? This is coming from AI over you.

But I do remember reading about this back in the day that cows are responsible for an average of 22 human deaths each year. Okay, but how many humans are responsible for how many cow deaths each year? Yeah, put the scoreboard up, fam. Are you trying to tone police and oppressed class in how they revolt against their oppressor? Yeah. I'm just saying, watch them. That's great.

So, wait, Jack, you're saying that the cows are claiming 22 of our human lives a year? Uh-huh. Okay. Well, I'm just looking up the new stats from 2023. About 32.8 million cattle were slaughtered in the United States. Hold that, cows! Hold that! This is not gentle barn energy. I don't think you filed a report. 23 about 32.8 million cattle were slaughtered in the United States This is not the feeling Board thing I'm too caught up in sports. I'm sorry. Scoreboard. We're not doing race wars with other species.

Victor asked a very good question. That's like, did you see that clip of that little girl who was at a rescue farm thing? And then she was like, that's a cheeseburger. My kids took a long time to connect the food to the animal. They're like, no, it's not chickens. It's chicken. That's the same word, but it's for different things. That's the food chicken, and those are our neighbors' cute chickens.

I think that's how most people are in their brains. The deaths are not based on, they're not like cheating this, Victor, but Victor's like, oh, is this them choking on steak or whatever, or like having heart attacks from high cholesterol. From a meat-based diet. If we added that as well as like their methane admissions,

we would be, they would. That's a scoreboard, yeah. They're doing it from the inside. Yeah, Miles' scoreboard is totally upset. Yeah, the cows are like, we're playing the long game. We're taking the earth down withboard, yeah. They're doing it from the inside. Yeah, Miles' scoreboard is totally upset. Yeah, the cows are like, we're playing the long game. We're taking the earth down with us, bitch. This is like 20 to 22, like, smashings, where they're just like, smoshing people.

Or like, dumb people are like doing cow tipping, and then it like just rolls over on them, and they're like dead now. And people are like, a farm related incident. Let's not tell the whole truth of that one. Sure. Pauly V, what's something you think is underrated? If you guys haven't been watching Paradise on Hulu, oh my God.

Sterling K. Brown, James Marsden, amazing. Does James Marsden die immediately, right away? No comment. Is he cucked before he dies? Is he cucked before he dies? Is he cucked before he dies? Is he cucked before he dies? Is this a James Marsden joint?

A proper James Marsden joint? This is a proper James Marsden joint. What is it about? It's, I can't, it's too much. You guys have to, you would be so upset. You can't even tell us what it's about? Just watch it, it's paradise. It has to do with the fate of the world and every episode has like 10 episodes

packed into one. It has to do with the fate of the world. You can't see Victor says don't spoil it. I can't. Wait, what do you mean? Can I not even read like a description? Don't read. Don't. Just watch it. Go in unspoiled. Don't read a description. Don't talk to anyone. Say hey. Don't look it up on Twitter. Just go watch it. It is so good. And more is revealed every episode. The description

shows it. Say hey, oh. Hey, Apple media assistant. Turn on Paradise and then keep your eyes closed until you start hearing music. Yeah. Okay? You're not allowed to even. It is so good. Like, I feel like this is is like the Severance team will also be on this one. You know what I mean? Everyone who loves Severance, I feel like you guys will love Paradise.

It's more like action-packed because there's more crazy shit happening every episode, but there's so many twists and turns and it's just so well done, and also feels like it could actually happen and you're like, ''Oh my God.'' That's why I've been pitching that severance should be recasting their main roles with Steven Seagal, Joe Clout Band Am, Sylvester Stallone, Mel Gibson. As Helly. Sylvester Stallone as Helly Orr.

You know? Get me out of here. All right. Well, I don't know. Uh, I mean, I guess that's a pretty intriguing endorsement. Yeah. Yeah, especially when the producer started spamming the chat like, don't even read the description.

Shut the fuck up! Fuck! Somebody's spoiled it for me. Victor, I didn't say too much, right? I feel like, I don't know. It's just so good. Now that I see the image, I'm like, oh wait, I am familiar of what this show is,

but I've only seen the very big log line. Miles, you're not allowed to look at the image. Don't look at anything. Close your eyes. I know, but I know what it is. But the log line is very innocuous. Oh, it's not, it ain't giving away much. It's so good. It just says a Secret Service team is tasked with

Miles! Oh! Now I'm never going to watch it. Oh my God, you ruined everything, Miles. I do. So I feel like it's been a while. I might need to retire my characterization of James Marsden as like somebody who gets cucked in movies. I think that's like where his career started.

Okay, that's so true. Wait, but Enchanted. Enchanted? No, he got he got cucked. Yeah. Yeah, he got cucked a ton. He got cucked in that and the notebook. Yeah, the notebook he got cucked. Yeah. Yeah, he got cucked in that and the notebook Yeah, the notebook he got cucked like his character in the x-men universe got cucked

Yeah, right like that was like sort of his you know, I caught on it. He's getting cucked by the Needed to do a little work To like get it there. I think is tugging the fuck out of him. Yeah. No, I love James Marsden. He's so good. Yeah, he's great. Yeah, he's great.

He was great in Jury Duty too. Is that what that show was called? Yeah, I haven't seen that though. He's great. And what fizzle is something that you think is overrated? Apple AirPods or any sort of earbuds that just stick inside your ear and they don't have something that attaches to your ear. This is more of a personal thing.

I just hate the way it feels. You got tiny little ear holes? Yeah. And they fall out and I just, you know, when you're on an airplane, you feel like, like your ears stuff up. I don't know. I feel like it feels like that. That's how you feel. Yeah.

Yeah. I feel that. Oh, like just from the pressure seal around it? Exactly. It just feels a little bit. Yeah. Okay. I get that. Yeah. The noise cancellation on those does freak me out a little bit where you put it in, it's just like, you feel like you're just inside a balloon all the sudden. What the fuck is going on here?

Yeah. I love that shit. I like equilibrium. My equilibrium gets a little fucked up. You're just like inside a balloon all the fuck is going on here. Yeah, I love my equal My equilibrium gets a little fucked up Cuz I have no balance when I wear these things Like during the testing of the air pods they put it in and people just start falling over. The early ones? Too good. Yeah.

Got to scale back a little bit. Oh, God. Get it out. Get it out. Get it out. Have you seen that? I actually really liked that sensation. I don't know why. I think I was like, I'm one of those kids who tried to hide in the tiniest boxes. I'm the opposite of claustrophobic. Yeah, me too. I'm claustrophilic, I guess. Maybe that's why we're drawn to each other, Miles. Yeah, and why we just hold each other so tight

when we see each other. Maybe you guys can share a coffin in the afterlife. Yeah, that's right. It wouldn't be tight enough. How is it? Are we going face to face or penis to butt? No, we're 69. We're 69 for sure.

Toed to face, 69, yeah, yeah. We're 69 for sure. We're 69 for sure. Stack. Classic pose. Stack, classic pose. Stack us like Lincoln Logs. Exactly. Or they don't fit, or they don't fit.

But yeah, have you seen those clips of those rooms that are truly sound vacuums, they're designed for no sound waves to move in them? Yeah, they're total vacuums. I think they have to have the air sucked out of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they say that is so disorienting. And part of me is like, bro, I want to know that. I want to know the extreme of most human sensation. So if y'all work in one of those research facilities and you can, if you're down to have a 40 year

old just come through to fuck around in there for like five minutes, let me know. Yeah. I think those cost like millions of dollars to create. Like they create them for like to, to build like the James Webb space telescope and like shit like that, where they can't have any germs or like imperfections touching a thing. They'll like create a whole room that's a vacuum so that like the germs just like fall right to the ground or whatever. But you're like, Hey, could I just like kind of drunk drive through there?

Yeah. It's okay. Can I, can I could I just like kind of drunk drive through there? Yeah. It's okay. Miles. Can I play some sound cloud off my cell phone in here? We'll tell them you're a doctor. Yeah, exactly. They're like, are those official doctors sandals you're wearing? Yeah. They're crocs.

Doctors wear some fucked up shoes because they need comfort. No, hell yeah. You know, they're on their feet all day. So you're good there. Yeah, that's true. The white robe is like approximating it, but it's clearly a bathrobe and Dr. Miles is written in Sharpie.

That's the one thing that's fucking it up. I spell miles with like white tape all crudely just on the chest. And you have loose cigarettes coming out of your pocket. Yeah. And I'm wearing a commemorative scrubs rewatch podcast t-shirt. I'd be like, dude, I'm a doctor.

Why would I be wearing this? Cause my favorite podcast, I'm a doctor. Yeah, I went to medical school. Yeah. Watched scrubs one and a half times all the way through. All right. Let's take a quick break. Should we do that?

Should we take a little break? Do you want to come back and talk about some news? Yes. Let's do it. We'll be right back. Have you ever looked into the night sky and wondered who or what was flying around up there? We've seen planes, helicopters, hot air balloons and birds,

but what if there's something else, something much more ominous that appears under the cover of night, silent, unseen, watching? They may be right above your car late one night as you cruise down the road or look like mysterious lights hovering above your car late one night as you cruise down the road or look like mysterious lights hovering above your home.

Drones. Or are they? We used to work drone because it was comfortable to other people. One minute it was there and one minute it wasn't. Oh, that is beyond creepy. Do you feel like this drone was targeting you specifically? Yes, absolutely.

Listen to Obscurum, Invasion of the Drones on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Amartines. The news can feel like a lot on any given day, but you can't just ignore las noticias when important world changing events are happening. That is where the Up First podcast comes in. Every single morning in under 15 minutes, we take the news and boil it down to three essential stories. You can keep up without feeling stressed out. Listen up first from NPR on the iHeart radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey Will, do you ever get overwhelmed by how much science happens these days? Constantly. I'm like, ah, there's so much science, I can't keep track of it all.

Then it's a good thing our podcast, Part-Time Genius, is counting down the 25 greatest science ideas from the past 25 years. That's right, Mango. We're talking animals. In a paper called, quote, chickens prefer beautiful humans. Right. This was actually the title of the paper. They all discovered that much like humans, chickens are attracted to symmetrical faces. Got it.

We're talking medical miracles. He's an endocrinologist who found a way to stimulate insulin producing cells using, wait for it, the saliva of a Gila monster. There's no way to make that not sound crazy. We even talked to some of the experts behind these breakthroughs. It's a week full of fact-packed stories you won't want to miss. So listen to the part-time genius countdown of the 25 greatest science ideas

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We're back. And so this third way sounds not at all nefarious group that's like, guys, we've tried the Republican, we've tried the Democratic. What if we tried a third way that was also exactly like those two? Yeah. But like kind of an average of the two kind of, because they, they seem like they're more moderate than the mainstream Democratic party, but miles in terms of like kind of the makeup of this group, who is powering this group? Where's the, we've talked before about like the pod save guys talking about

how when you're deciding if somebody is a good candidate for office, you go, and they were saying this as a critique, but it's just the way, like, and this is just the way it is. They were saying like, you just go through their phone and be like, okay, that's a billion, that's a billionaire. Okay, you actually do qualify, you could be a candidate. What does a organization like this look like in a leadership? What's its makeup,

foundationally, and its bones, right? Because this is a group that got together last month in Loudoun County, Virginia, to figure out, how do we get the Democratic Party back on track? How do we reclaim the attention of the working class and the normal American person? And so this group, the Third Way put this, you know, little retreat together with consultants and politicians.

Their board, I'm just going to say the chairperson of the board of trustees of thirdway.org is one Rachel Pritzker. Now you may, you might be like, wait, I know that last name. Yes. Because of a very, it's a very dynastic wealthy family hotel like the Hyatt hotels, JB Pritzker, who's also the governor of Illinois is her cousin. She is the chairperson. So we have somebody who comes from dynastic wealth as the chair of this group third way,

then you just go through their board of trustees, it's either someone who comes from venture capital, someone who comes from Wall Street, or like an academic who gives it some sort of like intellectual credit or yeah, you know, like just just a little bit of what's the word I'm looking for. Help me. Intellectual bona fides. Yes, exactly. Where it's like, well, we have this sociologist who's also on the board who talks about inequality. I mean, obviously, we won't do anything about it, but they are on the board of trustees. Some are.

They're sociologists from the Stanford MBA program. Yeah, that's like rich people win, get over it. So they came together and Politico, who's also done a real interesting job of reporting since Trump has gone into office, has sort of, they got a hold of this PDF that has like five pages of like their takeaways as they got together to do a mind meld. And it's so fucking disheartening,

but also tracks. Before you go into it, because it's really awful, let's just, there's, it's really important because the way this piece was reported on, and even I misunderstood it when I first read it because it's been making the rounds is that it was like They don't name the third way group like politicos like centrist Dems group or like leading Dems. It's very cagey Yeah, which makes it sound like a little bit broader like more Democrats are buying into this or that the DNC maybe had something To do with that or that a D triple C, you know and the fundraising arm had something to do with it No, the third way is like notoriously awful.

So I just want to name like, it's, it's not. It, it's not necessarily where the rest of the party, although I have massive questions about where they're going to go, but they should definitely not listen to yes, the following recommendations. Right. I think what it is more than anything shows that there is... The fight for the Democratic Party is well and truly on. And right now, the centrists are making their case.

They're trying to round the resources to be like, it has to be this version of the Democratic Party. It can't be this fucking... A fringe shit like that AOC is talking about or stuff where they're talking about like, taxing the wealthy. I'm sorry, I'm Rachel Pritzker. like that AOC is talking about or stuff where they're talking about like taxing the wealthy. I'm sorry, I'm Rachel Pritzker.

Like I can't have a bite taken out of my fortune because of this kind of shit. No, but let's make it sound like something good. So again, this was the third way is come back retreat. And there's four sections takeaways on why Democrats have a cultural disconnect with the working class, takeaways on why Democrats are not trusted by the working class on the economy, then takeaways on how Democrats can reconnect culturally with the working class and takeaways on how Democrats can rebuild economic trust with working class voters.

Is this like they all were given a mirror and just had to hold it up to their own goddamn faces and we're like, we are the reason that the Democratic party is not connected to the working class. It's like, do you guys remember the scene in I'm a big fried green tomatoes fan, but like, so like get to know your body, like Kathy Bates like has a mirror

and she looks at her vagina. And it's like, they need to look at their faces. Like look at your bank account, look at your face, look at your car, look at, you know, like who you hang out with. Maybe you're the problem. Who is the poorest person you know personally that you have in your phone book

that you interact with as a person? Yes, exactly. And not a service provider. Right, right. Just as a question, I think that should be the first question around how many billionaires you know your phone has. I caught up and berated the direct TV guy the other day. Does that count?

Yeah, I saved his number. I feel like we're really connected. I didn't even have an aide do it. I just had some steam to blow off. So I'll read through these and we can stop at whichever one you'd like to because they're all equally infuriating. But first takeaways on why Democrats have a cultural disconnect with the working class. One, overe one over emphasis on identity politics to The faculty lounge problem, which is again They're saying quote Democrats are often viewed as judgmental out of touch and dismissive of those without elite education or progressive views

I like how they go or progressive Or us where we don't like that we feel like we're they don't like that We look down on people who aren't college educated. And also they think we're too woke. Don't ignore... Just ignore that last part. Keep going. It's woke.

It's woke, my virus. Number three, failure to prioritize economic concerns. That's true. That's true. Dang. Whoa, is this going to go in an interesting direction? Well, the subheader is, while voters struggle with jobs, wages and inflation, Democrats are seen as more focused on cultural and social issues.

Yeah. Then on economic progress and opportunity. They don't like racism. That's why. They're also, they're not connected in any way. They're not all woven together in this much larger thing called the American culture. Anyway, then weak messaging and communication.

True. Fear of dissent within the party. This is where the wheels completely blow off. Anyway, then weak messaging and communication. True. Fear of dissent within the party. This is where the wheels completely blow off. Now, this is again from this document, quote, Democrats are perceived as intolerant of internal debate. We're questioning progressive orthodoxy results in backlash rather than open discussion. Candidates and operatives need to feel more comfortable

just saying no to activist groups and unpalatable far left ideas. This is again, where you're seeing how the fights playing out. There's like- It's like every heading is like, okay. And then their description is like, absolutely not. Yeah, right, right, right, right.

Exactly. So where does Gaza fit into the fear of dissent within the party, right? I mean, like, this is amazing, right? Cause this is the whole thing is like, we feel like we're being policed and we feel like we have to get in line. Now, granted we haven't gotten in line

and we have not listened to our base and we've ignored the mass movements, whether it's around BLM or around Gaza. We completely ignored them and we punch left and we treat them like shit, but they make us feel bad and we still ignore them. It's just like, what are you talking about? Kamala Harris had energy coming into the election and then promptly steered in the direct direction they're suggesting the party go and lost all the momentum exactly

Yeah, yeah attachment to unpopular institutions very weird The ones that are now being obliterated by Elon so Republican light got it got it got it right Allowing the far left to define the party activist groups and progressive staffers push unpopular cultural positions making it seem like Democrats are more extreme than they actually are. What the fuck are you talking about? Operatives and campaigns must remember that activist groups exist to promote their single

issue and raise money around it not to make Democrats electable. Reactionary rather than proactive over reliance on buzz words and political correctness y yikes, and 10, lack a positive national identity message. Okay. Democrats focused too much on America's flaws, racism, sexism, inequality, without acknowledging the country's progress and potential, making them seem pessimistic and unpatriotic. This is just so very much- Just got their ass kicked in an election where the opposing side did nothing but talk

about how America was a complete shithole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, it's very hard. But that's patriotic, Jack. Right, right, right. It is wild where again, this next part takeaways on why Democrats are not trusted by the working class and the economy. This one is all be summed up in one sentence, which is we cape for capitalism and the status quo and nothing else.

That's the problem every time. So the first one, vilification of wealth. Democrats are seen as hostile to success, indifferent to people's desire to attain wealth, while reflexively attacking wealthy business leaders instead of promoting economic mobility and aspiration. Hmm. Disconnected messaging. Like everything is just so, Democrats focus on broad economic indicators instead of acknowledging real struggles like high prices and stagnant wages, making voters feel dismissed and unheard.

Yet, you can, this is the problem. You'll point, you'll gesture to the problems, but you'll never fucking wrestle with the issues. That's the thing. That's the thing. I mean, this is just wild. Like, first of all, these are complete nincompoops, number one, but number one and number two

of why Democrats are not trusted by the working class are completely antithetical to one another. We have disconnected messaging. We don't actually make it clear that we understand and listen to voters' economic concerns when grocery prices are exorbitantly high, they can't afford childcare, on and on and on. But people are being too mean to corporations

and we can't vilify the wealthy. This is the problem, but this is actually why Joe Biden failed in a lot of ways beyond the butcher Biden, you know, last 15, you know, year of his presidency was really about like, okay, we're gonna sort of nibble around the edges, pass some reforms, go after, you know, monopolies, but we're not going to do it hard enough or

swift enough to actually make real gains that impact people's lives. And we're going but we're going to still piss off the 1%. And we're never going to gain popular support for these programs. And for these things like stopping the price gouging or making sure that, you know, you know, Apple and Google and Amazon are have to break up or sell off certain companies or we're suing them, all that. We're not going to make these very valiant policies

that we are enacting actually popular because we're not gonna specifically vilify the 1%. Like in order to connect to people economically, you have to vilify the wealth. You have to vilify the 1% like, like, in order to connect to people economically, you have to vilify the wealth, you have to vilify the 1%. It gives people something to latch on to. And that's, you know, that's why Trump is so successful is because he's demonizing immigrants, trans people, women, like we understand that. So give them the opposite, say the 99% versus the 1%. It's what catapulted the Occupy movement into Bernie Sanders two time near electoral win. So it's just like,

Yeah, but the 1% is the 1% is running everything. So how can we expect them to even have this? Like this one part to failure to address economic anxiety is another one where it's like, yeah, no shit. But again, they just go on to just like talk around the issue. Another one is not in the break room versus the boardroom. Democratic economic messages often come from elites, celebrities, and politicians rather than working class voices that voters can relate to. What you're saying is yes, the party has been captured by the hyper wealthy. So you're inherently going to have it.

So we just need to change our wording. It's not going to happen with Rachel Pritzker or people of that ilk at the helm of a political party. This is so far out of their depth. Look at your vagina in a mirror. That's what I'm trying to say. Just look at it for a second. Look at it. And it'll make sense. It's not nearly as nice as doing that.

But like, yeah, it's, this is, no one should take anything these people say seriously. And it's really annoying that the way that the political article was spun was made it seem like this wasn't the third way organization. Everyone who knows a third way organization has been like tone deaf. Now the problem is, is that people, you know, like James Carville, will parrot a lot of these points. And many people parrot these points, which is basically like,

we need to get rid of the racial justice component, which is not really even a component, it's just sort of a lip service that we pay to real equity in this country. Get rid of all that language, because we weren't actually doing anything to implement it. Also hop on board with DEI programs, DIA programs, which are again stopgap measures that mostly make ourselves look better and so we don't have to address structural issues, economic issues broadly. Like

this is and then the last thing, don't make me look at 2025 and like miss Obama. Like don't make me miss the way the one thing that Obama was actually able to do well, which was I think give some sort of narrative structure to this democracy that we live in, specifically when it comes to multiracial democracy, a country that is still in formation in the making, that is a sum of its parts, that know, that its best days are ahead, not behind, but truly with, again, this like, call it, it's not post-racial, but of course, in the minds of a lot of white people,

this like post-racial, everyone's moving forward, you know, we can do it together. Like, like it's just so wild that we live in a time where like 2009 seemed really hopeful, you know? And I say that as someone who in 2009 was actually not that hopeful and of course was like everyone else, many progressives very disappointed. But like, it's not that hard to have a narrative of multiracial democracy that is inclusive where there's an economy that works for all people.

It's fucking really simple to articulate that. And many politicians do. Yeah, I think it's like just something about this, especially in third way and knowing how wealthy the people are behind it too, or like they can they're reading the room that the clock is ticking for people like, for just ignoring the wealth hoarding that's happening from the very wealthy. And I think they're trying to like dance around it in this way where they're like, it's a problem, but I certainly don't know how to contend with it. That ends up with me having less than I already do. And that's that's totally off the top. That's the unspoken thing in all of this.

That's because all this stuff just reads to me is it's pro inequality propaganda. Like all of these talking points. And if that's your worldview, is it's pro inequality propaganda, like all of these talking points. And if that's your worldview, if you're pro inequality or just indifferent to inequality, all of these talking points are very easy for you to parrot and act like you're analyzing and observing a problem and that maybe there's something to be done about it. But you are falling short of the actual work of saying we actually have to begin to dismantle these structures if we want a tangible effect, if we want voters to actually have some kind of tangible

outcome that they can then connect to this party and say, yeah, you know what? I trust them. I'll vote for them because I can see they understand what's at stake and they're contending with it rather than trying to be like, the problem is, and this go, they say this in their document, small dollar donors. That's a thing. That's a remedy they're putting in here. Revise democratic fundraising parties.

Move away from the dominance of small dollar donors whose preferences may not align with the broader electorate, AKA stop listening to the people who were trying, who's trust were trying to regain, and just get all the money from our wealthy friends. It is a complete nonsensical document because it's just full of these hypocrisies.

The small dollar donors, i.e. many, many people don't represent many, many people. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, nobody knows what you're saying. It doesn't make any sense. And again, this is what's gonna, look guys, this is nobody knows what you're saying. It doesn't make any sense. And again, this is what's going to... Look, guys, this is what gets us fascism, this kind of thinking.

Lines in the sand have been drawn, y'all. There's a class war. Which side are you on? Okay? Stop fucking caping like you care when you want to maintain, you know, the tax structure the way it is when you're not actually really going to address wealth inequality. Shut up. Just go over to the side of the room of the gymnasium with all the billionaires.

Cause we don't need you anymore. We understand like truly though, I'm just like so sick of these people, you know, helping the democratic party and it's tailspin and it's their fucking nose dives, cause this is, this is what the Kamala Harris campaign did. It's exactly what they did. Yes. Yeah. The, I mean, so the playbook, I feel like for the Democratic Party, both successfully and unsuccessfully has been promised progressive change, like big

radical change, and then govern as a right-leaning corporatocracy. And like that playbook. And not even really do the former, like not even really promised bra, right? Yeah. Just like gesture, aesthetically Obama felt like he was offering revolutionary change, hope and change, you know, but then like not really in, in any sort of real way did it was a low bar.

But the ACA was, I mean, like, you know, the ACA was a good, like, when I'm, I'm even, again, I put Obama in a separate category at this point. Like Kamala Harris did not run an Obama campaign at all. There was no big idea. And again, there was so much working against her and on and on and on, but like, this is useless. Yeah. Yeah.

No, it's truly. Yeah. I feel like the two, because people have been fooled by this so long and like, yes, the Obama like ACA was something that was also written by the insurance industry. And like, I think the big original sin that people can't get past is the bailing out of Wall Street. And yeah, like, but I, so the two options seem to be like promise progressive and then govern progressive.

If you're not going to do the promise progressive and then govern as a corporatocracy, it's promise progressive and then govern progressive or promise corporatocracy and govern the way you've always been governing. Which, why would, if you're a corporation now, why would you ever throw down with Democrats again? The Republicans are promising you the moon and the stars. I mean, they are truly doing you a massive service. I mean, unless you rely on things like SNAP benefits to underpay your workers so they don't come at you with a knife and shit,

then that would suck for you, Walmart and others. But again, the line of the sand has been drawn and the corporations you got Ruben Gallego going and like trying to, you know, fundraise with Mark Andreessen and other, you know, crypto, crypto bros and be like, well, we're good too. And like, you can't offer them what they want. No. And also, like, open up your let's let's see the donations you've gotten from that sector, because we all know what time it is. They just bought you as a voice to normalize crypto for their own aim. And like we've talked about before, they were the biggest industry that was spending this last election cycle to get pro crypto talking points out to Democrats and Republicans. The one thing though, too, which goes along with all this one of their takeaways for how they can rebuild economic trust is to quote number five, be pro aspiration and pro

capitalism in a smart way. Recognize that working class voters value upward mobility and economic success. Have a prosperity gospel aimed at the working class. Call out corporate abuses individually instead of attacking quote corporations as a whole. Now, pro aspiration is such a fucking violent fucked up term in this context, where it's like, not that you're saying provide people with this

tangible path, it's like they like upward mobility. But that's why we use the word aspirational because that doesn't mean you're delivering that means you have the hope that it will happen. That doesn't mean you have to use words like grindset mindset more and life hack. Hustler of the month is going to get a Lambo brought to you by the DNC. I mean, truly, truly. It's like, okay, so instead of free college tuition, you want to lie to people exactly the way

that Republicans lie to them. And no one's saying that the allure of a get out of capitalism free card or like being able to get a bunch of money through crypto doesn't exist precisely because of the moment that we're in and honestly, precisely because the Democratic Party has lost their way, you know, since FDR and since its embrace of neoliberalism. But I'm very excited in 2028 for the fuck in for Gavin Newsom to trot out Bill fucking Clinton again and again and again. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. One of the things is like hanging out with like meeting them where they are at tailgates and gun shows, which is just, and, and I think small town diners, which first of all, like tailgates, gun shows, local restaurants, local rest. This is written by the most billionaire motherfucker, like, you know, tailgates and gun shows, local restaurants and church.

It's all white coated, right? Isn't that just white coated? Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is all going for like conservative middle America 100% Yeah, by the way unsuccessful Democratic candidates have been trying to lean into gun culture and failing since Dukakis in a day when he like drove that fucking tank like yeah Carrie had an infamous gun photo op Kamala kept ragging about how she had a Glock. Like, it just, it feels like they've taken, taken like the 2024 election is just like, let's double down on listening to the exact wrong people who told us all the things that made us lose. Yeah. Well, then you also have like senators like Chris Murphy, who are like, kind of,

kind of like having an internal debate with themselves about seeing the light where they're like, I think it's like, you got to listen to like these poor people, man. And like, we're just not doing a good job, but also shit. I'm like, so hard to determine. I don't even care. I'm just like, uh-huh. Yeah, I know. Which is like, it's all feels performative because at the end of the day, like these people, their entire existence is rooted in the fact that this system stays the same. So I can't really, it's hard for me to believe that they now have the steel to go

after, to start to even begin to reckon with all of these structures that exacerbate the very income or the inequality that they're saying is causing a disconnect. It's like, well, we're not gonna contend with the issue, but we need to figure out how to tell them that the sky is blue when this shit is black. Back in 2020, I did a Newsbroke episode

that was basically like how to beat Trump and one of the bullet points, which is one that we just, you could just erase this entire thing and just have one bullet point, which is be authentic. And I would revise that and just say, believe in something literal, believe in something. Pick a thing to actually believe in. Messages and we believe in message.

Santa, Santa for me. That's it. Exactly. Like I don't even give a shit if it's Santa. If it's Santa, sell me on Santa. Okay. But I need you to actually believe it. I think the thing about Santa, he's given too many handouts

to people that don't deserve it. You know, wait, what? You're not even just boomerang that whole argument. Well, you know, Santa's a nice idea. It's a good concept. but really they should be earned stocking stuffers. And, you know, if you don't pay into the stocking system, it should be sort of based on your own income and common toys. I just hate that they basically are taking, treat human beings with dignity and

respect and saying that this is radical far-left thinking like because if you just tell someone you don't have to evoke any kind of political theory here just be like this here's your platform we believe that you have the right to health care without going bankrupt because your body gets fucked up from maybe the myriad of threat vectors we put in the environment to the you know corporate activity whatever health care okay okay, you should be able to have a roof over your head. If you would like an education that should be attainable for you at any kind

you want to learn a trade you want to go to university, okay, we got that covered. Food, what else health care, child care that your children will be safe. That's really those are so broad that it would be hard. Like you're not. I mean, some conservatives will be like, we're trying to give a handout, but other people, they are clamoring for things to be more affordable or their lives to be less shitty. Just articulate that in a way that is just talking about.

It's just like the basics. It's really just the basics. But it's it's much easier for it to get like sort of muddled in this kind of like think tank talk and then have places like Politico be like, all right, this is what might be the new normal way for the Democratic Party, or at least we'll give this the most attention so no version that seems too radical takes hold and people start looking the other way. If you really want to learn from the Republicans,

because all this is is looking at the other side and going like, hey, they're good. And like, you know, I do understand this idea of like speaking to people wanting to get ahead and our intense individualism and all this and people liking money and people not wanting the collective. And that's going to take a long many years to rebuild that sense of collectivity of a real like, yes, an American identity that is about equal protection under the law, that is about everyone getting an opportunity. There's been so much hollowing out of the government. Many people believe obviously all this shit is dead if it ever were alive.

But I'm like thinking about it and I'm like, okay, universal education, like free tuition, right? Let's say community colleges, state schools to begin with. And if you don't want to take advantage of free university tuition, you can get money instead. It's like putting money in people's pockets. People love money. And so it's like, you know what I'm saying? It's like something like that where it's like, it feels like socialism. You got two options. Exactly. If you don't want that, you get the other thing.? It's like something like that where it's like, it feels like socialism. You got two options.

Exactly, it also feels like- Hey, if you don't want that, you get the other thing. Exactly, you could get money to go to a trade school or like start your own business right out of college or high school, whatever you want. But we wanna promote you going to school freely and fair, you know, all that. We think everyone should have an economic,

I mean, an educational opportunity like that. But also here's money. Like if instead you don't, like things like that, that would be an interesting creative way to address this moment that we're in, but also talk about what can actually solve, you know, the moment that we're in. Or they talk about, oh, people love aspirational stuff

and like they're driven or whatever. That's because there's no fucking middle class. If there was a middle class, people wouldn't be aspiring to be Lambo driving like jet hopping fuckwigs. Sex traffickers. Because they look at that as being like, well, those are the only option. Those are like, if I want to go on a trip, like have like a nice dinner, dude, look like I have to be hyper wealthy because my job that used to be able to afford someone a very normal, enjoyable life, that fucking vision is gone. So that's what they're aspiring to. It's not that they want, not necessarily, but the example that we have in society is that you must

have X amount of dollars for this experience to mainstream version. Those people putting me in pain. And that's, those are your two options. Be the one who's getting fucked over and scammed or be the scammer or the person who's like making all the money. Exactly. And if you believe anything else, you're stupid. Yeah, right. Is also part of it.

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Canada, we're back. Canada, we're back. Canada, we're back. Canada, we're back. Canada, we're back. We're back. And we're back. Hey, what's going on up in Canada? Canada. Canada. So just an unintended outcome of Donald Trump's 5D chess that is actually like half a dimension. I feel like. One dimension it's flat. No it's not even flat. It's a point. Yeah. But like 5D chess implies he's playing chess five moves in advance. And I think he is not even thinking about the move he's making as he's making it.

I think it's less. No, he's moving the chess pieces on a board or they're like, bro, you can't do that. The pawn can't move like a queen, bro. Yeah, I can't watch this. Like, bro, you can't do that. The pond can't move like a queen bro. He's like, yeah, I can't watch this. He's like, bro, you, you're going to lose that. He's like, all right, fine. I'll do this.

And he's like, that's not a good movie. Oh, we'll see. We'll see. And then he just puts a handgun on the table and says, I can't. Oh yeah. Oh no. That's a toy. That's clearly a toy gun.

It's got the orange thing in the barrel. All right. So he is basically, and maybe there is an argument to be made that this is a successful 5D chest thing, because the only thing that's going to keep fascism alive is the continued survival of like neolib shit, you know? So maybe this is five. I feel like this is what he's just like knocking shit over and it just keeps turning up like fucking ACEs for him. I'm just mixing all my board, all my table games here.

But so a few months ago, Trudeau announced he was resigning a new party leader would be chosen with an election happening at some point later this year. His unpopularity was like unprecedented. People were just completely out on his bullshit, much very similar to Biden. It was just, he was incredibly unpopular. His policies, like the sort of neoliberal angle of being like, Hey, we want to help you. Here are some policies that help you. And then they ultimately just are means for funneling wealth towards wealthy

people and corporations. People were like, fuck this, maybe. Maybe we need something better. And so the stage was set for a massive liberal defeat, much like we saw in the U S I know the margins weren't massive, but like when you take into account like what should have happened given Trump's platform. It was really a massive defeat and complete fuck up by the Democratic Party. So now though that Trump has come into office and has threatened Canada with, in every way, basically. I mean, very implied military threats of being like, you're going to be our 51st state. But obviously the big one is

the economic tariffs. He has come back and been like, this guy's an asshole. you know, he like did a direct address to Americans was like, I'm sorry, you're doing this to yourself. And that has been incredibly popular in Canada. Everybody is like, well, I guess the election used to be about like domestic Canadian policies, but now it's all about sending off threats posed by the Trump administration. Their numbers has like shot up. Nothing like a common enemy. Yeah, exactly. Totally.

To bring the people together. Right? Yeah. I mean, the best thing that happened to Trudeau. It is wild. When like, I just, you know, as our elections were happening, all like Canadian zeitgeist, we're like, we're right behind you. We're right behind you. We're about to go, we're about to flop to the right also.

And then it's just like, it's just wild how the emergence of this shit had Trump immediately. Like, what the fuck? Like, it just sort of immediately has people being like, right, hold on a second. This guy is a fucking loser and dangerous. And all the people that are parroting that shit in our country, it cannot lead to whatever is going on.

So the person who was favorite to take over for Trudeau was the head of the conservative party, Pierre Polievre. Polievre. Polievre. Pierre Polievre. I don't know why he's Italian. Pierre Polievre. He was poised to coast to victory and now has completely had to revamp his strategy because his, you know, in the run up to our election, like the thing he was, that was giving him strength was that Trump has had a chance to be really bad at his job in the eyes of everyone, except

for like the 30% of Americans who voted for him. You know, they're like, Whoa, that that might be a very bad thing. It's it is interesting though, too. Everything Trump does has this weird effect of also doing the opposite thing if he wants like he's like, well, I'll bend in Ukraine. And now Europe's like, bro, we need to fucking, we need to cut these Americans out of the conversation because they're going to fucking destroy everything and like, fuck, fuck all this.

So and as like, oh, shit, they're getting each other's backs. Now this is different. And now with Canada, Trudeau merely just being like, this is some bullshit guys. And it was like, yeah, we're back, we're back. And Mike, look, a word of warning to the Canadians, man, do not let the presence of an aspiring fascist turn into a neoliberal honeymoon, okay?

The Democratic party should have taken the biggest, like a bigger L over what happened in 2016. But the presence of Trump made everyone nostalgic for the before times and completely lost sight of like what was ailing society and what actually needed to be addressed. So take the opportunity if you can. I don't know. It's not going to be easy. But theoretically, you could drive a stake

into the heart of right wing extremism and meet people's needs. Okay. Because if you let the rot of inequality continue, the fungus that is authoritarianism rule will have the perfect environment to replicate and thrive in. And you're just going to end up being the same place we are down the road. Like it's not it's not going to be enough to be like, Oh, thank God he's standing up to it. You now have to take the opportunity to like, just fucking learn from this. It's because the Democrats did fuck all to address the needs of the people at the expense of the donor class

that we're in this mess that we're in right now. And also just ideologically, it's impossible for them to bite the hand that feeds. So we were fucked either way. But Canada, you already got a leg up on America in a few ways in terms of how you're treating your people. So just, I'm just, it'll come back though. If you're not, if you're not care of a shit, we'll come right back. They are waiting for material conditions to be bad enough for people to be like, yeah, fuck it, destroy everything. I wonder if we're going to be able to, if the U S is going to be able to get out of that, because it is, it does feel like the only thing that can make the idea of sort of that corporatocracy, but Democrat look good is what Trump is doing. You know, like he's doing the exact thing to make people be like, I mean, I

guess back to the other thing, I guess be like, I mean, I guess back to the other thing. I guess Biden was fine. Like, yeah, I guess. No, it wasn't. And it's not now. And I think that's, you know, if I've like, you think like the most cynical of democratic strategies would be going to these billionaires. Like, look, dude, we need all y'all to like do token donations to bring your cred back up and make

people feel like you contribute to society. Just fucking just do these token offerings to just fucking bring the temperature down a little bit and say you're okay with it. And then we can if you're okay with just a little bit more taxes, we can just do some stuff that will keep them at bay before they all fucking turn on us. That's but they can't even do that.

They're just like, but Trump's bad. So you're like, well, that, okay. There goes any opportunity to do anything. You're giving them the most cynical sense to try and keep the fucking powers that be in power. Cause I mean, the road inevitably just ends this way. Right. So, yeah, all these countries have the entire economically populist lane to go

down where you can create policies that actually benefit people instead of corporations and by the way, corporations are people too. So miles, when you said Joe Biden didn't do things for people, you were leading out a big chunk of the population. I'm afraid citizens United. Thank you. I will refer you your honor. Biden didn't do things for people. You were leading out a big chunk of the population. Thank you. I will refer you, your honor. No further answers, your honor. But it's just so wild that like they are leaving this huge lane that has like

proven to be popular in the past with the Sanders campaign coming out of nowhere in 2016, doing remarkably well in 2018. But again, like to your point, I think people just lost their nerve because they were like, well, we got to beat him and Sanders isn't going to win. Like, this is not a time to be taking chances. This Trump guy is- The polling indicates that he could. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Like everybody's just playing the horse race game too much. I mean, do you think that the Democrats, those in power who didn't want to bite the hand that feeds them actually would rather have Trump than Bernie? That's a great question. I mean, probably. Yeah. I think they probably know that Trump is better for their, they are so distinct from what, you know, what Bernie Sanders and the idea of a progressive politics that

actually is focused on helping people that, yeah, I don't think there's anything about Bernie Sanders that appeals to mainstream Democrats. Whereas with Trump, it gives them something to in theory, you know, fundraise. I was going to say like in theory run against, but it's not even really running. It's just a fundraising. Do you know, I got so many fucking texts during that address, begging texts from the Democrats.

You know what I mean? Like they're still, they're so caught in their ways. They're like, yeah, fine, man. We'll just like, people will be freaked out again and maybe we can get more money. Although now I think they're realizing people are so fucking disheartened by everything. Yeah.

It's the money ain't flowing in like it used to. They're willing to try anything except the Bernie Sanders thing that would actually work because that is, yeah. I mean, it's just, it's the thing that we saw with Biden coming up against certain things and being like, ah, what can I do, man? I'm, I'm trying over here. And it's like, what's the unspoken thing? You're not saying what, what are you trying and not able to like, yes, there's

Republicans in Congress, but it's also. What do you want me to upend the status quo? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I think that's, it's the basic thing. I mean, like, going forward, the only people who will be worth listening to or voting for are people who can just very simple premise. The status quo is violent and it's killing people and it's every it's making everyone unhappy.

Their meat, their needs aren't being met. And we're so far removed from even what people call the good old days when people could have... My grandmother was a fucking switchboard operator and shit, and my grandfather drove a bus. They are able to do shit and have a house, even being black. That shit was kind of possible even then. We're so far from that in the progressive tax policy that we had then. So if you're not willing to come to the table and be like, Hey guys, everything that's been happening for the last few decades, we

have to reverse course on all of this. But that is just far too extreme a mess, like perceived as far too extreme a message from again, the, the stakeholders of our media and things like that, that it's just, it's, but that's, like that that it just it's yeah Someone who's like we just need to change a couple things No, we don't we need to change fucking so many things and if you're not really saying that with your whole chest Don't waste people's time tweak the messaging tweak the messaging. Yeah All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist Please like and review the show if you like the show

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