The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 381 (Best of 5/12/25-5/16/25)

Episode Date: May 18, 2025

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 388 (5/12/25-5/16/25)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an iHeart podcast. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Hamler and Helms is here. I of course was drawn to the LSD story. This was all under official government activity. They built a apartment that had a glass mirror where he could sit there and watch. And then they would drug these customers and he was just sort of taking notes and God knows what else behind this double mirror. And this was all in the name of science.
Starting point is 00:00:29 This just sounds like a guy off behind a wall. It does. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times big economic forces show up in our lives in small ways. Four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up.
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Starting point is 00:01:09 What happens when we come face to face with death? My truck was blown up by a 20 pound anti-tank mine. My parachute did not deploy. I was kidnapped by a drug cartel. When we step beyond the edge of what we know. I clinically died. The heart stopped beating. Which I was dead for the heart stopped beating.
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Starting point is 00:01:46 Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take phone calls from anonymous strangers as a fake gecko therapist and try to learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's very interesting. Check it out for yourself by searching for Therapy Gecko
Starting point is 00:02:06 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one non-stop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Uh, yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Speaking of art, speaking of people who win awards for their art. Yeah. Unlike us, we're merely, we make up awards that our moms gave us. But we still, I hold on mommy's best, best little boy award 1994 with high regard. It wasn't on my 10th birthday, but our guest today. I won a Mikey last year. You did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Wait, what's some of the micies? Wait, I'm just going to object. What's a micie? Yeah. What is a micie? So it's any medium where you use a microphone to amplify your voice. So I won in the short form standup comedy
Starting point is 00:03:12 three minute category. I had a good story. So I won a micie for it. First off, congrats. Second off, thank you. I love how many awards there are. Like if you do anything, you can get a trophy for that thing. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I'm about to get a Golden Globe for a podcast this next year. Hell yeah. You just wait. You might as well. By doing that, I will beg my mother. Okay? How I get all my awards. I remember when Webbies were a joke,
Starting point is 00:03:36 where it's like, you got a Webbie and now it's a thing people dress up for and go to. Oh yeah, no, like I won a Webbie last year. I was like, I think I see a Webbie behind you. Yeah, there's a Webbie right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like Oh, yeah. No, I won a Webby last year. I was like, I think I see a Webby behind you. There's a Webby right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, right there. I'm like, we've got a Webby right behind you.
Starting point is 00:03:50 It's like you're in the same room with like, I was in the same room with Governor Christie Noem. No, not Christie Noem. Governor Gretchen Whitmer. You mean, Stoltenbottom Fuhrer Noem. Yay. No, no, no. I was like, good governor.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Yeah, Gretchen Whitmer. It's like, you're basically at a party where you're in the same room as like, I don't know, Julie-Lise Dreyfus, Gretchen Whitmer, also the guy that runs the AARP Twitter account. It's sort of like everybody on the Internet. The Wendy's Twitter account person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're all there.
Starting point is 00:04:16 It's very fun. You should go. Well, anyway. Well, congrats to you. That voice is from one of our favorite guests. He's a comedian, he's a writer, he's a director, he's Emmy nominated. As of two weeks ago, Peabody nominated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:30 God damn. All these awards. We didn't win, we're just nominated. Bro, congratulations. That's fucking impressive. Congratulations on that. We didn't win, just nominated. Joey, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Because I'll never get a Peabody Award nomination. And that's fucking sick, bro. Fuck yeah, you're not. Hang your hat on that, man. That's fucking amazing. And I didn't mean to get aggressive, I'd fuck you, bro. No, I deserve it.
Starting point is 00:04:59 You were right to do that. Anyway, the thing that he won a Webby for, gone native, created, directed, wrote, all of that. Anyway, the thing that he won a Webby for gone native, created, directed, wrote all of that. He's also a fantastic Garfield fan. I mean, we were lucky enough that this man went to the Garfield, was that Motel 6? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he's done it all. He's a cat man. He's a cat daddy. After all of our hearts, please welcome to the microphone, Joey Clift. Yeah, that's right. I'm Joey Clift, AKA, Zyke Gang, you got what I need. They say I'm Joey Clift and my name is Joey Clift.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Oh, Zyke Gang, you got what I need. This course is long, I'm just gonna keep going. They say I'm Joey Clift and my name is Joey Clift. Oh, Zyke Gang, you got what I need. Yeah, and my name is Joey Clift. Oh, I can't you Yeah, yeah you get it And that was thank you very much to me five minutes before recording this and I was like, oh shit Like hosts have to do songs on this. I got like panic like there's always something There's always a beard. We're like I basically just google like three minutes for recording, just like, what is a song? And I'm just like, and then I go through a list
Starting point is 00:06:08 and I'm just like, oh, I can parody that within two seconds. There you go, yeah. Rest in peace, Bismarcky. Yeah, yeah. Look, we honor him every day through this show. Every single day. Every single day. Also today is National Nurses Day, so shout out to nurses.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Oh, it's Nurses Week, right? Yeah, yes, yes. Hey man, every day is Nurses Day to me. it's nurses week, right? Yeah. Yes. Yes. I mean that every day is nurse's day to me. Thank you. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I think I'm just, I'm brave enough to say it, you know? Yep. Yep. Yeah. Someone had to be, I get it. Oh, you know why? Cause Monday technically recording this Monday. That's why I was everything Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Sorry. Sorry. So this is not going to play well in an audio meeting, but I'm wearing a shirt right now that says, fuck Garfield's on old English, or fuck Monday's on an old English. And it has a picture of Garfield with like 6'6 below it. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Oh, that's awesome. That's fantastic. Oh shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a great shirt. Hell yeah. I'm all about it. I just want people to know what day it is, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:59 In my opinion, it's about that day. We need a Luigi Mangione Garfield mashup tee. You know what I mean? That would fucking do numbers. Where Garfield just shoots a calendar with the word Monday on it. Or it looks like that CCTV footage of the hit. And it's just like, but as Garfield's head, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What is something from your search history?
Starting point is 00:07:23 Search history, you guys. I hate to say it, but I'm still looking at small convertibles. And I just checked out a BMW Z3 that's $4200 and then I had to look up what a rebuilt title means and I don't think I should buy that car.
Starting point is 00:07:38 What is a rebuilt title? It's worse than salvage. Jesus. So wait, what does that even mean? What does that mean? What's that? No, so. So what does that even mean? What does that mean? What's that? No, so yeah, what does that mean exactly? I think it just means that the car was entirely destroyed. I don't know how they got this thing looking so amazing, but the car looks goddamn great. But yeah, you know what they say, if it's too good to be true, then it's probably great. Right? Isn't that? Oh, I see. It's when a car was previously deemed a total loss by an insurance company and then given a salvage title, but was later repaired and deemed road worthy.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Yeah. Hell yeah. Road worthy is all I need to hear. That's all I need to hear. Sea worthy, road worthy, James worthy. They open their sales pitch with, have you ever heard of the thought experiment, the ship of Theseus? So this was a total ship.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Is it even really that same car? Theseus was wasted. It's so broken, it defies philosophy. Let me just sit down with you for a good 45 minutes. So is it the same car? Yeah, it's the same fucked up car actually. So you got your eye on a small little convertible. Yeah, I want a convertible. Little hot rod coupe. While I live in Los Angeles, I want like a cheap little convertible to drive around.
Starting point is 00:08:53 It just seems fun to me. And I'm of the age where I'm like, it's definitely a midlife crisis. But again, like, is it a crisis? I've had a crisis before. This isn't a crisis. Yeah. No. This is like-
Starting point is 00:09:03 It's a hobby. It's a hobby. To midlife ja crisis. Yeah. No. This is like. It's a hobby. It's a hobby. To midlife jaunt. Yeah. To midlife little adventure. Thanks you guys for supporting this. Yeah, man. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:12 For co-signing this. As someone who just started DJing again, I'm not going to shit on anybody's new midlife hobbies. Yeah. I say the problem is when you weren't DJing. You know? It was. No, I mean. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I, I, it's funny. I always qualify and people are like, oh, what are you even up to? I'm like, I actually started DJing. You it was no I mean thank you I it's funny I always call a phone people like oh what even up to my actually it started DJing like what so many people go oh I'm so sorry for your wife and I'm like what the fuck I'm like I see you guys said DJ vinyl like they weren't your friends then they weren't your friends you don't need friends like that's right we're your only friends. But I do need my mother. Just me and Jack. She says it the most. Your mom is the one who says it the most. She's like, oh my God, again? Jesus. Of all the people I know who have tried their hand at DJing, you have earned it.
Starting point is 00:09:57 You know music. Well, we have actually. It makes sense. And it's like, Danel, DJ. Producer, editor, Justin, DJ. Then like DJ. Who've also been pivotal in my road back to DJ. So shout out to them also.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah. Small convertible. I'm just picturing you tearing around the PCH in a small convertible, listening to Beach Boys songs about tearing around the PCH in a small convertible. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. It's only 50 surf rock for me. That's it. Oh, yeah. What is something that you think is underrated, Shana?
Starting point is 00:10:32 Smacking people in the mouth. Underrated. I think more people need to be popped in the mouth for stuff. Yep. I just, yeah, people getting a little bit too mouthy. Who needs an adjustment? Who's that inspired? Youy. Who needs an adjustment? Who needs an adjustment? Here's that inspired. You saw someone who needed an adjustment.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Gestures broadly. Or governments everywhere. People on the Internet. I don't know. Sometimes my mom, whatever. That doesn't happen enough. You know, people don't need to get bullied, physically bullied. This online bullying stuff. Sure, it makes this up your mental. But all you got to do is punch somebody in their mouth,
Starting point is 00:11:10 and they won't leave you alone. Yeah, yeah. It is the cuffs. People always say, they're like, oh, you can tell this person has never been smacked in their mouth. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You are out of pocket. You need to be slapped really hard on camera.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Yeah, like Stephen Miller has never been. No, because he's just shocking. Right. He was one of the most smackable mouths. Yes. He was like this ammo too. Like there's there's grimy kids that go to Samo also like you there. You might fuck around and find out, but I guess not for Stephen Miller.
Starting point is 00:11:43 So he needs to get somebody with some dusty Timbs. Yeah, right. Or somebody give him a 300-milligram edible. And be like, bye-bye. What happens? 300 sounds like a lot. Yeah. He will turn into a Chevy Chase or he will revert to his final form. Blow some toad venom in his face. One of those just super intense, entire ego dissolving,
Starting point is 00:12:11 just dose him with ayahuasca or something like that. Hero dose. Yeah. Real, yeah. Hero's dose. Hero's dose, yeah. Then just follow him as he tries to find a place to be by himself and put a therapist in there with him.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Or his family, his wife. Yeah. Who knows what's wrong with that? That's true. They're both bad. Also shout out to Friendship has a great ayahuasca scene. Oh, really? I'm excited for you to see it, Miles. Is that on HBO Max? It is not on HBO Max yet.
Starting point is 00:12:46 It's probably heading there at some point, but yeah. What's something you think's overrated? Uh, you know, this, this will be, I didn't realize this would be relevant because I didn't realize it was pizza party day, but I think pizza toppings are overrated. I think the ideal version of pizza is a cheese pizza. And I think you throw some toppings on there, especially too many toppings. I'll give you like you want to do pepperoni.
Starting point is 00:13:15 That's fine. But if you start throwing shit on there, it's like, do you like pizza? Like, what are we? Are you it feels overcompensating? Like, can we just not enjoy the beauty, the perfection, in my opinion, that is crust, sauce, and cheese? We need to, we need to fuck with this. It's perfect.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And we should mention that you are Kevin McAllister as an adult, you are a grownup Kevin McAllister from Home Runs. Yes, that's a documentary. That might be confusing to people. Yeah, people don't realize this, I changed my name, but yeah, that was a documentary that this guy, Christopher Columbus, came to America, then he came to my house.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Right, right, right. And he filmed me. Yeah, without my parents' guys. I told him, wouldn't it be cool if I was a ghost that haunted this family? And he's like, oh, maybe. I think this is true for really good pizza. I agree with this for really good New York City slices
Starting point is 00:14:04 when I'm trying to, I've heard a place is really good. The first thing I'm getting is a really good, like New York City slices when I'm like trying to, I've heard a place is really good. The first thing I'm getting is a cheese slice for sure. Domino's pizza. I want something to distract me from the Domino's pizza. Throw some toppings on. Yeah, they're not going to be super high quality. Pan pizza.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Also need some toppings, I feel like. My argument then is just don't go somewhere else if you're trying to Disguise that you're eating garbage. Well, maybe that's a sign. I think there's levels to it, right? It's like Taco Bell isn't Mexican food, but it's not no Bell and I fuck with it and it's a hut It's pizza, but I'm never gonna be like that's's, and if you want a slice, go to Pizza Hut. So like, you know, you adjust based on what's available to you, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:49 Right, right. Because as much as I'd like to go buy like a New York thing, it just takes too, it's too much time. They don't have coupons and shit like Pizza Hut does. They don't have an app that tracks if Johnny is putting the pizza in the oven. Exactly, and you don't get a free inflatable street basketball during March Madness Yeah, where's my happy meal toy my adult happy meal toys?
Starting point is 00:15:13 Joe's Pete collection of March Madness Basketballs, they should give you a pizza. No one is acknowledging that I read a book Yeah, I get nothing. And that's why I don't fuck with prime pizza. Yeah, I feel like I feel similarly about like ice cream toppings, like, you know, like a really great, if you're like, this is a great ice cream place, I'll get, I'll get a basic ass flavor to like, just enjoy the ice cream. But if you know, Ben and Jerry's or something like that,
Starting point is 00:15:45 like I'm chunk that thing up, distract me. You know, make my mouth feel like it's on an adventure. Wow. Wait, are you saying you don't like Ben and Jerry's? I like Ben and Jerry's, but it's not like- You said it needs toppings? There's already, that shit's chock full of stuff. No, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I mean like the toppings that are mixed, the mix in this. Oh, oh, oh. See, I don't consider that to be a topic. That's not a topic. I consider that to be part of the ice cream. I'm talking about like some sprinkles, some Oreo crumbles. Yeah, putting sprinkles, putting gummy worms,
Starting point is 00:16:12 putting Oreo crumbles. I say go with the ice cream that you want. Because there's enough options now. It's not like you have to plus up ice cream. It's not like you have to find a way to make the only available flavor tasty. It's like you can, yeah, when you go to the ice cream. So you have to find a way to make the only available flavor tasty. It's like you can, yeah, when you go to the ice cream place,
Starting point is 00:16:29 you can, there's all these options then to go like, well, let's put some rainbow sprinkles on top of this perfect ice cream. I mean, when I get frozen yogurt, everyone looks at me like I'm a fucking murderer. Cause I just- Why, how many toppings? None, none.
Starting point is 00:16:43 None? I'm just like thank you yeah they're like the toppings I'm like no no no no I don't need them don't need them oh man I have overdone it at frozen yogurt places to a level where I'm like I'm gonna need to take out a loan this is like I am upside down on this. I'm on this thing. Like, how did I spend $40? Up to my eyeballs in gummy bears. How heavy are these fucking gummy bears? You only got a little bit of frozen yolk.
Starting point is 00:17:11 It's like, yeah, dude, and then you get a ton of gummy bears and they charge you for the topping price. It's still a lot, dude. So bad. I don't know if this is a system that you've cracked. It kind of seems like you're buying gummy bears at a 200% up chart. How much is that cup of gummy bears? Dude, like 18 bucks.
Starting point is 00:17:29 A tiny bowl of gummy bears for 18 bucks. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I found out that I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly I am talking to a felon right now, and I cannot decide if I like him or not Those were some callers from my call-in podcast therapy gecko It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake Gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact, here's a few more examples of the kinds of calls we get on this show. I live with my boyfriend, and I found his piss jar in our apartment. I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out of their house. So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head and see what's going on in someone else's head, search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the one with the green guy on it. Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast, Are You a Charlotte?
Starting point is 00:18:49 What We Have All Been Waiting For. Sarah Jessica Parker is here. And she is sharing stories from the very beginning, like the time she forgot we filmed the pilot episode. I remember some things about shooting the pilot. Right. I have some memories I can fill you in. And that you're going to fill me in.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Yes. But then you forgot about it in the very long time they took to pick us up. I completely forgot about it. And she reveals what she thought when she read the script for Sex and the City the very first time. He said he wrote this like I was in his head in some way,
Starting point is 00:19:19 which I found really interesting. And does she think Carrie is too good for Mr. Big? She had inexplicable feelings. Got it. It is a human being that can't explain to her friends why somebody that might be beneath her is dictating the hunt. You can't miss this.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Listen to Are You a Charlotte? on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, and Helms is here. I, of course, was drawn to the LSD story. In the 1950s, the CIA scientists secretly bought the entire world supply of LSD embarking on a horrific attempt to discover the secrets to mind control. This is so insane.
Starting point is 00:20:07 This was all under, under like official government activity. They built a apartment in San Francisco that had a glass mirror where he could sit there and watch. And then they would drug these customers and he was just sort of taking notes and God knows what else behind this double mirror. And this was all in the name of science. This just sounds like a guy off***ing off behind a wall. It does.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I would just also like to say if you don't have to take LSD like this, LSD can be microdosed. It's like an upper of energy, enthusiasm, makes you less nervous if I'm going heli-skiing. If it allows me to go hella-skiing, then yeah, I'm hella on board. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:20:44 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I have a question for you, and I want you to be honest with me. How are you? It's a really hard question to ask. It's a harder one to answer, but taking care of our mental wellbeing has never been more important.
Starting point is 00:21:04 All of May is Mental Health Awareness Month, and on the Psychology of Your 20s podcast, we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about and all the science and psychology behind some of life's hardest moments and transitions. Prepare for our conversations to go deep, everything from grief to heartbreak, career burnout, anxiety, all of the things that you would only talk about with your closest friends. I spent the majority of my teenage years and my twenties just feeling absolutely terrified. I had a panic attack on a conference call. Knowing that she had six months to live, I was no longer pretending that this was my best friend.
Starting point is 00:21:40 So this Mental Health Awareness Month, take that extra bit of care of yourself and your brain. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Let me just question, if someone offered you a $400 million jet for, actually, let me make this more realistic for something that happens. If someone offered you a free Disney plus subscription for a year, would you think there were strings attached? Do I know this person? Am I like, is it like a roommate or a friend, or is this just somebody off the street?
Starting point is 00:22:19 No, I mean, it's someone you know about and they're kind of, you, they're, they don't have the best, best reputation. Now, is this like a foreign government offering this to me? Sure. Let's go with that. Yeah. Let's say Qatar is offering free Disney plus memberships. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I would at least ask follow-up questions. Yeah. What kind of guy is Qatar? Like, do we know about this guy? Like, is he a nice guy or he he said something like his uncle works at Disney. That's why he got all these free subscriptions. So I'm not going to ask any questions. Anyway, all that's to say, so over the weekend, we find out that Trump potentially
Starting point is 00:22:54 will be accepting a new Boeing jet from the Qatari Royal family to replace Air Force One. It has been described as a quote, flying palace fit for a, like a head of state and only costs like $400 million. It's not bad. Yeah, that's, I don't know. I mean, doesn't need to spend at least like 500 million for like one of these things. Yeah, it's cheap.
Starting point is 00:23:18 So something that I think is like so funny about Trump as a person is that he will accept anything if you frame it in a way where it sounds fancy. You could give him an outhouse and say, I don't know, it's the Rolex of outhouses and he'd be like, I'm in. So being a flying palace, that feels like that's them framing it as a way to get him to say yes to it. No, apparently he took a tour, all these other people like this fucking thing is obscene. Like it's just kidded out to the fucking maximum. I know he would be like, this is an Andy Gump. They say the Rolls Royce of shit boxes. And I've got one. I've got two actually. That's what I'm like. It only has the nicest spyware embedded in it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Right. The nicest hidden microphones and cameras. I'm like, isn't this unethical, creates a conflict of interest and or a security risk? I wasn't referencing and or the Disney Plus, that wasn't a call back to the Disney Plus thing. The answers are yes, yes and yes. Oh no, actually no, don't worry, Miles, don't worry. I've looked into this.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It's actually not against the law because they're not giving it to him. They're giving it to his presidential library. Oh, Miles, don't worry. I've looked into this. It's actually not against the law because they're not giving it to him. They're giving it to his presidential library. Oh, right, right. It's a gift. Yeah. It's giving to his presidential library and he's going to use it while he's president and then afterwards he's also going to use it until he dies and then it's going to live at his presidential library.
Starting point is 00:24:38 So completely above board. Don't worry about it. Cause he's going to have a library because he can. Yeah. And the first library without books in it. And they've saved all the documents. He can read in it. And they've saved all the documents. He can read. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And they've saved all relevant documents, which would even necessitate having a presidential library. Yeah. They're getting around this by saying it's a gift technically to the Department of Defense. Oh, right. It's not for Trump. Obviously, we're helping out. A lot of people are saying like they were negotiating and then Qatar was like, you know what, dude, you guys just have it, man. Fuck it. It's yours, dude lot of you're saying like they were negotiating and Qatar was like, you know what, dude, just you
Starting point is 00:25:05 guys just have it, man. Fuck it. It's yours. Keep it. What about nothing? Nothing. Pam Bondi, who is the attorney general and former registered Qatari lobbyist. Okay. She wrote a memo basically be like, yeah, it's all good. It's all good. I don't see anything. I think we can get I think we get the legalese all worked out on this. Should be totally fine. Seems like a very transparent deal.
Starting point is 00:25:28 I just want to fucking just illuminate Pam Bondi's relationship with the government of Qatar. She worked as a foreign lobbyist for the nation earning $115,000 a month in the role which she held in 2020 and into the run up of the World Cup in 2022. In this role, she lobbied Congress on behalf of Qatari interests. So pretty, I think that's, that's seamless, I think, and I'm really happy for him that he
Starting point is 00:25:54 will get this jet. But once again, he isn't getting the jet, the Department of Defense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. America is not cooked yet. DoD is accepting it on his behalf. What were you going to say now? Were you going to further besmirch this country's good name? Oh, just the Qatar, when it was leading up to the world cup, when the migrant workers were dying by the hundreds, right?
Starting point is 00:26:16 In poor working conditions in Qatar, when they were trying to build stadiums. Yes. When she was being paid all that money to prop them up. Probably turn a blind eye, not to mention their, you know, the hostility towards anyone who is not straight. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Right. Yeah. That too. There's a lot, a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff there, a lot of stuff there. But so anyway, right now with the current Air Force ones, I, there's two that are in service and they've been in service since 1990 and they're constantly being rotated out for maintenance. And apparently they ordered a new one, but it's being delayed till 2027.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And you know, that's when the Qataris were like, what's that? I heard you guys need a plane to carry the most person, the power, most powerful person on earth around. Do we got one for you for like free 99, dude, just take it. You're going gonna love it. I heard this Air Force One actually has arch support. Stupid. Yeah, I was about to say, this Air Force One,
Starting point is 00:27:13 so if Air Force One, the current one, has been in service since 1990, what do we think the chances of a cherry poppin' daddy's being on that plane is? Ooh, high. Pretty big, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, they'll be there, they'll be there. Yeah, was Smash Mouth ever hanging on that jet Pretty big. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They'll be there. Hi. Yeah. Was Smash Mouth ever hanging on that jet?
Starting point is 00:27:27 Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Zoot Suit Riot, they loved him for that song because we love the actual historical event that's based off of adult Wikipedia, unless you want to know about brutalizing Mexican Americans. Anyway, that's a whole other thing. Once again, America overrated.
Starting point is 00:27:44 America overrated. America overrated. And then we have big fucking, wait, was that Big Bad Voodoo Daddy who did Zoot Suit Riot or Cherry? Everyone was a fucking daddy popping. Yeah, there was like the squirrel nut zippers or something like that. Yeah, so I was just thinking like,
Starting point is 00:27:58 if a foreign government is giving you a vehicle to carry the head of state who clearly has shady dealings like as it's tied to you know other terrorist organizations in the region I'm like at a minimum like even with my first grade narrative brain on I'm like aren't they like worried like that that whole plane is that's just gonna be like mic'd up like more than like an NBA Finals game and like what Howard I mean I get that then U S will do what they need to do to put in all this like security shit in there, but I'm like, is, isn't that, is that not a concern?
Starting point is 00:28:32 Or they're like, we'll find it if there's anything. And even if we find something, we'll act like this was all good. And things where it goes, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, you know, like there's a microphone in it. So it's just a extra work, but. Yeah. Yeah. 400 million.
Starting point is 00:28:47 It turns out not everyone is pleased with this revelation on the right. Specifically, Laura Loomer, the fucking weird Trump whisperer who's emerged over the last year, who's just a violent Islamophobe. She tweeted quote, I love president Trump. I would take a bullet for him, but I have to call a spade a spade. We cannot accept a $400 million gift from jihadists in suits." Then goes on to do a bunch of like jihadist stuff. Yeah, I guess like which of that sentence, which of those things
Starting point is 00:29:15 do you think she's most offended by? That's the thing. Right, exactly. Is it the money thing or the people of color thing? Her whole thing is that she hates Muslim people. So it's not a total shock that she's more upset at him transacting with the Qataris than the naked corruption of it all. But even other people are like, yeah, I mean, like she's right for the wrong
Starting point is 00:29:34 reasons, but either way it's, it's all wrong. You don't, this is this, this reeks of a bribe with wings on it. But again, the deal is still being considered. So right now, I think the White House is still figuring out how to message this bribe once it becomes official. Trump tried to explain why he got it, like some angry dad talking about how it was a couple of big screen TVs that fell off the truck or something. This is him explaining, yeah, it's fucking fine. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Here he is getting mad at ABC fake news for even asking if this was. There was any- So fake, so fake. Yeah, if there's any dimension of impropriety behind this. The rudest news that's ever news. Exactly. You say people who view that luxury jet as a personal gift to you, why not leave it behind? You're ABC fake news, right?
Starting point is 00:30:22 Why not? Only ABC, well, a few of you would. Let me tell you, you should be embarrassed asking that question. They're giving us a free jet. I could say, no, no, no, don't give us, I want to pay you a billion or 400 million or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Or I could say, thank you very much. You know, there was an old golfer named Sam Snead. You know, there was an old golfer named Sam Snead. Okay. You know what? That went on for 50 more minutes of him talking. The references though.
Starting point is 00:30:50 He goes out and he's like, they used to be this old golfer. He said, you know, he won many, many, many tournaments. And they say, when they give you a putt, you say, thank you very much. You take the putt, okay? A lot of stupid people, they want to pay for it. You don't do that.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Like his whole thing is like, if they want to give you a free jet, you take the jet. What do you mean? There's nothing, no, no further questions, my honor. It's a free jet. Let's go kids. So I hop on your free jet. I just found this out like a couple months ago. Apparently in the early 2000s, Trump tried to start a casino with my tribe.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Like he literally met with my tribe in Southern Washington state to start like a Trump Cowlitz casino. And there's like, there's like an article in this newspaper called the Colombian about it. You can pull it up. There's literally a picture of what the Trump Cowlitz casino would have looked like. And apparently he like showed up and actually like physically like went to Southern Washington and met with my tribe and we're a small tribe.
Starting point is 00:31:43 There's only like 5,000 people. and actually physically went to Southern Washington, met with my tribe, and we're a small tribe, there's only like 5,000 people. And he made all the elders of my tribe drink out of Trump branded water bottles, and then wanted a lot of money to essentially just give us his name for the casino, and he wanted to do no other work other than that.
Starting point is 00:31:58 But it's like, if you pull up the picture of the Trump Cowlitz casino, what it would've looked like, just search Trump Cowlitz. It looks like back to the future too BIF like casino. It looks like rainbow road. Yeah, yeah. Fucked up capitalist acid trip. These colors don't exist by the way.
Starting point is 00:32:16 I've never seen these colors before. Oh truly. I'm sorry Blake, these colors don't run. No they don't. That's what you meant to say. Here's a goofy question maybe, but what does, and this might be a dumb question, but Trump, doesn't he fly on his Trump plane? Like does he fly? Is that Air Force One? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:32:40 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, he flies on Air Force One. Although he did change the color scheme in Air Force One his last time in office. Because he was like, it's not gaudy enough. But no. Yeah. I think that he flies on that Trump jet, I think, when he was in the campaign. From 2020 to 2024, he flew on that.
Starting point is 00:32:57 But now presumably since he's being gifted this jet after he leaves off. The Department of Defense is being gifted this jet. Thank you. He's going to borrow it. He's going to Department of Defense. Yeah. Gifted. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Someone to borrow it. He's going to like the jet. Yeah. But then it's like, he's like, he was sending another thing. He's like, why would people be mad?
Starting point is 00:33:11 It's a gift to the American people. And it's like, what does that mean? Star? Well, we get the fine. Yeah. Oh, good. Yeah. Can you sign up?
Starting point is 00:33:20 Is there a sign up sheet? Yeah. It's the waitlist is long as shit, but we will get on it. Well, how long and add a new work on it. Oh boy. Yeah. Good luck, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:29 If you really want to go check it out, you're flying out of New York Liberty. Yeah. So we will see, I mean, uh, this is ongoing, but it's everything like even Caroline Levitt, like when even asked on Fox or like, is there any worry that like, they're going to want something in return? She's like, uh, no, everyone knows Trump does everything for the American people and not for himself. You're like, his sons are there getting so much money from all these Gulf states right now. Trump's about to go to the Gulf states and basically do money begging to all of these people in a second.
Starting point is 00:33:59 So sure, we'll see. It's all for the American people. Very quickly, though, I just want to touch on Dr. brain worms, actually not a doctor, we'll just call them RFK Jr. The measles outbreak in this country has hit another grim milestone over 1000 cases now mostly in Texas. This hasn't happened in 30 years since we've had anything like this, because presumably we were all most of us are on the same
Starting point is 00:34:23 page that scientists and doctors know what they're talking about as it relates to, you know, preventing illnesses. Anyway, meanwhile, RFK Jr. continues to obviously just push like fake cures and only pretend that vaccines are the actual best way to prevent your child from getting measles again, only pretending he'll say it, and then immediately turn around and tell you to take like so many vitamins that that that's how that's how you'll prevent everything. So over the weekend, all we got from the death czar
Starting point is 00:34:52 was a quote, where he like, while all this is happening, like maybe he'll say something, he was on like a panel on Fox News, and he basically was like, anti vaxxers are treated like fucking lepers. And it's really unfair. And he bemoaned the lack of compassion from health professionals for people who are anti vax to be like, why are us the people who are not protecting ourselves from preventable illness being treated like people who may be carrying a preventable illness? I don't understand. It's not
Starting point is 00:35:21 fair. We're just merely asking questions that will get many other people sick. Blackout drunk went on a plane and was vomiting everywhere and people were frowning at me. They were like, they were saying, like, you know, I was treated like shit, it was crazy. No one would sit next to me. I don't understand what it is. 21st century leper.
Starting point is 00:35:39 It's exactly what I am. That's exactly what I am. I've never heard of a bigger story of oppression, Blake, I am so sorry. I'm sorry I had to bring it up. Can we edit it out? Cause I feel like I brought up- I'm so sorry that you guys are allowed to continue
Starting point is 00:35:51 to spread preventable illnesses. My God, my God. I really hate that we live in a time right now where I have to be hyper aware of what I've been vaccinated against. Right? Where it just sort of like, like I was, I was in New Zealand recently and I was like,
Starting point is 00:36:04 and when you travel, you have to like figure out your vaccine record. And I'm just like, oh, do I just sort of like like I was I was in New Zealand recently and I was like and when you travel you have To like figure out your vaccine record and I'm just like, oh do I have to get like vaccinated again for measles? Like I don't know polio. Am I? Yeah, it's like what is what's coming back what's coming back that I have to like make sure I'm covered to work you know To re-up. Yeah. Yeah. What do I have to re-up for? That's like yeah the next doctor's visit I'm like, hey man, you need to re-up while you're here. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, Yeah. What do I have to re up for? That's like, yeah, the next doctor's visit. I'm like, Hey man, you need to re up while you're here. Yeah, I guess. So yeah, we're going to give you, unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:36:29 we, we thought you only had to give you these shots when you're a child, but yeah, you will need to be coming in every six years now for these. And then, so he also celebrated, I'm assuming he celebrated this measles milestone by going for a swim in DC's rock Creek, which if you have ever been to you know, that is not a place to swim. It's actually technically illegal to swim in it because it is so chock full of bacteria.
Starting point is 00:36:56 According to the National Park Service, swimming and wading are not allowed due to high bacteria levels. Swimming has been illegal in most of DC's water race since the 1970s, largely because of contamination from the aging sewer system. Though there have been recent efforts to roll back the five decade prohibition and it's rarely reinforced. So people like brain worms can go take a dip with their grandkids. But yeah, there's just saying like, even they're like, don't even let your pets in the water. Hey, just correcting you. It's not illegal because he didn't swim in the water.
Starting point is 00:37:28 The department of defense swam in the water. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. The health and human services. Yeah. I'm not a guy. I'm a department.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Yeah. Idiot. Yeah. I, I'm, it's just why I'm like, he must miss that brain worm so damn bad that he will do anything to be reunited, including forcing his grandchildren to swim in a body of water, fucking known for having way too much poop and E. coli in it. That's the way that's a love language, I guess. But I also feel like it's
Starting point is 00:37:57 probably like another like a statement, obviously, because that's what all these people do. And they're like, Oh, guess what, all the things they said were unsafe. Those were lies. What else were lies then I'm swimming in poop creek. I mean, like, I think he's doing the thing was like, look at what all the mean scientists say that being in water contaminated with sewage is bad, but look at me. But yeah, I don't know if that's a thing everyday people are like dialed into just like yearning
Starting point is 00:38:22 like being like, Yeah, thanks, RFK, when can I go swim in that local body of water that for generations everyone in town knows is disgusting because it's a shit cocktail? Yes, when? When? So something that Trump is doing a lot right now is he's renaming a lot of things, like, you know, the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. He's renaming Mount Denali in Alaska back to McKinley.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And I really, it's very annoying, but I really wish that he would rename things in fun ways, like renaming that poop creek, that'd be very fun. Poop creek's great. Poop creek's great. I think it would bring, it has to either be like total revision of history kind of shit, like for him, or so America-centric, like, idiocracy America-centric, like, it'll be like, oh yeah, yeah centric, like idiocracy, America centric.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Like it'll be like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That thing where we'll acknowledge what the thing is actually called due to like the indigenous people that live there. No, no, no. The, the, one of the worst presidents ever that fucked the economy up with tariffs, William McKinley, my fucking. Yeah. That's burger mountain.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Actually. No, exactly. In burger Creek. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that I want stupider names. Yeah. Yeah. He's like Milwaukee. What about Milkshakey?
Starting point is 00:39:31 I like that one. That's good. I like that. That's all good. We're taking back every name. If it was named after a Confederate, double down on it. Double down on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:41 He just renames Oregon to the Quarter Pounder's State or something. Yeah. Here, yeah. He just renames Oregon to like the quarter pounder state or something. Yeah. He's like Oregon. He's like, look who was down with slavery back in the day. Maybe. I feel like you could say that about the names of most states. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Oh man. Isn't it great? Boy named Sioux City, Iowa. Once again, America, a little overrated. A little America. Little overrated. Little, but a little bit, little bit. Little Caesars, perfectly rated. Little Caesars.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Pizza pizza. And that means we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast,
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Starting point is 00:43:46 They built a apartment in San Francisco that had a glass mirror where he could sit there and watch and then they would drug these customers and he was just sort of taking notes and God knows what else behind this double mirror. And this was all in the name of science. This just sounds like a guy off***ing off behind a wall. It does. I would just also like to say if you don't have to take LSD like this,
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Starting point is 00:44:34 We're back. And so up first, we got the Zazz, as we mentioned, Warner Brothers Discovery just announced that their streaming service, Max, will now be known as HBO Max, AKA the thing it was already fucking called before they changed the name to Max. What the fuck is the point of this? Why? From this Hollywood reporter, the Hollywood reporter kind of ate on this sentence in their write-up of the thing. Originally, the service launched as HBO Max in 2020.
Starting point is 00:45:06 In 2023, the company controversially changed the streaming service to simply Max, ditching the most venerated network brand name in television in favor of the most popular name for male dogs. Maximilian. Holy shit. Come here, Max. Oh, that was the name of Matthew McConaughey's dog in a time to kill. Oh, yeah. When they burned his house down and he's like, Max. And then Oliver Platt is like, Max is dead.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Oh, shoot. I imagine he's white. Yeah. What? The dog? What are you saying? That man. I assume every dog is white.
Starting point is 00:45:38 But to be honest, also, like that name, too, I remember, I guess, is like a moment. I remember that dog. I remember that man, I assume every dog is white but to be honest Also like that name too, I remember I guess is like a millennial I also associate max with like Cinemax and I was like That's what I thought it was. I thought it was like HBO and Cinemax together. Yeah now, you know, you're in trouble HBO Max and HBO Max. And instead they were like, let's change it to just Max. Because they probably like focus grouped it, like had some misguided focus group testing.
Starting point is 00:46:12 I love the story of A New Coke, because it's just like such a great illustration of like, how dumb these people are who like run these massive corporations and like, you know, give themselves credit. They'll rewrite their own story about like, well, I invented all this back in a garage somewhere. It's all completely made up bullshit. They're one of 20 people.
Starting point is 00:46:36 They ended up winning the corporate power struggle to be the CEO and then wrote everybody else out of the picture. That's how it always works. But they tell the story like they're fucking Horatio Alger pulling themselves up by the bootstraps. And the reality is that it's just people in a boardroom trying to stay awake. They're so bored and coming up with the dumbest fucking decisions. The New Coke thing was based on, they kept... Pepsi put out
Starting point is 00:47:05 this ad where they were like three out of four people like Pepsi better in taste tests. And the way they did the taste test was they did little shot glass, you know, Dixie cups of the flavors and like that's, so Pepsi just like made that up and you know, it was probably true. And so Coke was like, we gotta, we gotta get ahead of this taste test thing and made new Coke, which beat Pepsi in the little taste test. But nobody would drink it because it was only good if you took a single sip of it. If you took multiple sips of it, you'd be like, my teeth feel like they're fucking vibrating because they put so much sugar in it.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Cocaine? Oh, sugar. Yeah, yeah. This was actually a cocaine thing. They put so much sugar in it. Cocaine? Oh, sugar. Yeah, yeah. This was actually a cocaine thing, but yeah. That would actually be smart if they were like, what if we just got back to our roots and used some of that lobbying money that we use to make America ignore the obesity epidemic? But yeah, so they just didn didn't, they had to,
Starting point is 00:48:05 they had to go back on it because it like, wasn't a thing that people liked drinking anywhere except in focus group tests. And it's just like, I'm sure there's something similar here where like they got people who are like, do you like the word Max or HBO Max? And the people were like, I don't know, like Max, I guess, I don't like, like just probably a misguided, like some misguided. I think that feels like such a research feels like a Zaz Lovian idea. That the guy would be like, yeah, dude, like again, just like how the Hollywood
Starting point is 00:48:36 reporter is talking about, like one of the most like, you know, recognizable names in television entertainment. And you go up, don't need to lead with that lead with a nebulous word like max. We're bigger than HBO. We're bigger than HBO. I think because that was a thing, right? They were mashing up discovery channel with all that. It's like, now you can get 90 day fiance on max.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Right. You know, and like, they're like, so we don't want to confuse people, but I think people were more confused when the HBO name dropped out and they're like, well, where do I get HBO then? Right. I think the worst part too was like we were hoping you guys would like fix the app for when you like hit the rewind button. It didn't shut down the entire app.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Sorry. No. Like, why didn't you focus on making sure it functioned appropriately? Like, why are we changing the name? You hit rewind like 10 seconds and the whole thing would just shut down. You're like, great. I guess I can't watch Natalie Grace now. Yeah. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Have you seen the dramatized version of that? I started watching it the other day. I couldn't, I couldn't. I can't bring myself to watch it because the real thing is so fucking wild. I'm like, I do not need a dramatization when there's a full-blown documentary, when you can look these people in their faces. 12 episodes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:50 It's no, I couldn't watch it. But if on Max, you wanted to go back and catch something she said, it would just shut down the whole thing. And they're like, let's just change the name and the color. I like the purple. Yeah. You know, it's funny. I'm pretty sure I still have that like dead app on my phone. Hbmx.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Yep, I do. There it is. Yay. Keep it. I'm still with you. You're a collector. I am. It's weird. I'm like, I got so many dead apps. I got Flappy Bird on this motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:50:19 What's that? That was a game that got taken off the App Store years ago, and people were like selling phones with it on it to be like, I need Flappy Bird. What do you do on there? It was just like you tap the thing and the bird flaps and goes higher or lower, and there's obstacles like a side-scroller game. It's really nothing. This was very 2014 kind of shit.
Starting point is 00:50:37 They had to outlaw it. It was so good that people were just dying of exposure while playing it. Yeah, I forget why it got blocked, but anyway, it is what it is. Wow, producer Victor said, didn't some guy get killed over it? I'm shit. I just remember this shit was so wild. I was like, why are people losing it over Flappy Bird?
Starting point is 00:50:59 I think I missed that whole era of phones. Yeah. Apologies to whoever got killed over it. Cause that's the dumbest sounding shit to get killed over a possible flame. Like did he have the highest score or does somebody want to take his phone that had the game on it and not now I want to know details. Yeah. Why did this person die?
Starting point is 00:51:16 Victor now research goal. Tell us, tell us, tell us now. Victor now research go. Is there a spin off? Oh good. Researching. Thank you, Victor, now research go. Is our spin off. Oh, good. Researching. Thank you, Victor. I wish like when they like to your point, Jack, like I wish
Starting point is 00:51:31 they could just write these stories to be like, oh, that's an L for David Zaslav going back on this. You know what I mean? It's not like, oh, he's they're rebranding it. No, they made a stupid fucking this. They made a stupid decision. And now they're like, yikes. All right, that's an L Just you know, that's a L. You know, it's good. You know, it's bad when like
Starting point is 00:51:51 actual mainstream media like accounts of the story just keep like are actually like making me laugh It's a good move a user wrote of the shift the HBO brand is associated with some of the worst content ever Sopranos the wire band of brothers Game of Thrones curb your enthusiasm V deadwood and Silicon Valley good That was in the rap just like being like yeah, man good call dipshit. That's yeah fucking brilliant yeah, but again quick reminders as a lot of salary is a mere $1 million a week. So 52 million a year and HBO Max lost when he like kind of did this, you know, it was his like big swing in case you're like, but I mean, maybe he like did the research and it actually made sense and it worked.
Starting point is 00:52:47 HBO Max lost almost two million subscribers when it rebranded, due to confusion over the makeover. Oh, no. Wow. Just a straight up new Coke level fuck up. I mean, just lay out. Aren't they going to charge just more for like accounts now. They're probably going to raise the price when they change it back to HBO Max.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Like, oh, see, it's they're always want to do that shit. And now we're bundling HBO in the back. Oh, what are you doing? What? Yeah. Do you want to upgrade? What do you mean? Isn't it the same thing? No, this is HBO Max now. And I'm sorry. I don't know if you heard our CEO makes a meager one hundred forty two thousand four hundred sixty2,465.75 per day.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Whoa, wow. That sucks for him actually. When you put it like that, that kind of, that's crazy that he's able to get by on that. I'm sorry. I didn't, I didn't think I was going to. Yacht viewing parties to schedule. I mean, it took a lot for me to not cry during that story about the Africaners, but now I'm just, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I'm just thinking of him. He's only making 142. Your heart is so big. You can really tell he's, wow. He really feels it. I just want, I'm just, I just, I'm, I want better for him because one day I know I will be there. I will be there.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Thank you. For the low price of one Starbucks franchise a week. Thank you. Shana. of one Starbucks franchise a week. I mean, so yeah, like you said, miles, they scrapped the HBO branding in the first part to advertise that they were also bundling discovery content too, which was the company that Zazlov came from. Right. And so it's just like him being like, well, people are going to want to, like really
Starting point is 00:54:29 Discovery is the star of the show, but I guess we could just like put it all under Max, Max the everything. I think the ad campaign at the time was like Max, the only one you need or some shit like that. It was just like, fuck it up. Brady bunching my streamer services. Right. It's like Max and X live together in my mind as like the dumbest fucking rebrands that nobody thought were a good idea.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Right, exactly. So wait, is Cinemax still a thing? I don't think so. I mean, they never really had original content beyond like a couple shows. They had that show Banshee that's supposedly really fun. Uh huh. And they had soft core. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Emmanuel. Emmanuel. Yes. Red shoe diaries. I wonder if any like that shit must have fallen off a cliff when internet porn became a thing. Oh my God. I want to know what Emanuel is doing now.
Starting point is 00:55:25 She was so horny. I know. And she was even horny in space. Yeah. You know, I thought space would bring your libido down, but not Emanuel. Nope. Not Emanuel. No, no, Emanuel. You take away the sins of the world.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Oh, wait, no, is that Jesus? Damn, sorry. They got to figure out the branding on the world. Oh wait, no, is that Jesus? Yeah. Damn, sorry. They gotta figure out the branding on that one. Yeah, I thought Cinemax was still around doing something or maybe you got roped into this field or it didn't. No, it is. It's all part of, it's all on the same streaming service. I just like don't effectively like what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:56:02 This is what cinemax.com looks like it looks dire Cinemax.com looks pretty This fucking channel is called motherfucking max. Yeah, right movie max And then they combine HBO and Max. But what's. What is lethal white? What's that show about? Oh, but then it is.
Starting point is 00:56:31 So it is also HBO. This shit is so confusing. I stop it. Stop it. I feel like Michael Jordan in that. I say, stop it. Stop it. David says love, please. Nobody does feel like a Zazloff thing because his whole thing, everyone's like,
Starting point is 00:56:47 dude, this guy's gonna fucking come through and ruin everything. And all of his moves were like, daddy's home. You know what I mean? And now it's like, oh, that thing? No, it's called Max. Now all the slate of original programming that you had brought up that was coming from
Starting point is 00:57:02 like diverse creators, fucking gone. Daddy's home. Like that's just every, diverse creators. Fucking God, daddy's home. Like that's every his hands just fucked everything up on that thing. So it is like the propaganda of American capitalism is like these people know what they're doing. Like that the whole thing is propped up on the idea like these are the smartest, most capable people, they know what they're doing. They'll never like you said, like they'll talk so much shit about the decision and the Hollywood reporter, but they're never going to be like David
Starting point is 00:57:27 Zaslav is a fucking clown. What about like they would about an athlete for like fucking missing a free throw or something, you know, but the mainstream media will never do that because it's so propped up. And so I do think it's partially responsible for like how we got to a place where people were like, and we just need a businessman to lead the country because they're the ones who like make the right decision that make line go up and Like nobody tells the truth about them. That's the only reason they're just fucking yes, they're rich They're like this guy made money. So he apparently he knows how to do it because he has money
Starting point is 00:58:03 He's like, well, well, he has apartheid diamonds in his pocket. Well, yeah. That's how he got. What? I mean, his great grandfather profited from slavery directly. Yeah. Don't forget that part. He made all that money.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. He started with a bunch, too. The Hollywood Reporter needs a Stephen A. Smith. Exactly. All these fucking CEOs need a Stephen A Smith. Like Jim Cramer needs to be a person who's out there being like, this guy's a fucking idiot. It's smoking crack.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Now you can do that name change. Like, that's nobody. It's interesting that you're able to talk that way about mostly black athletes in this country, but not a white executive, the white executives who own, own the station. You're talking shit on, I guess. All right. Uh, just another in line with that. Another example of this is just the, the whole VR revolution that was supposed,
Starting point is 00:59:00 supposed to happen. There's a clip from prices, right. That was going around on social media this week where one of the items was the Apple vision pro and literally nobody had any idea how much it costs. Like the highest bid was like, I don't know, like 1270. That was like the high one. And everybody, including Drew Carey, we're shocked to learn it was $3,500. They were like, what?
Starting point is 00:59:30 Now I want to hear this reaction. That was one of the prizes, right? Yeah, those prizes are right. Without going over, good luck everybody. Go ahead. Here we go. They're going to reveal it. $1,000.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Okay. Let's get to $1,250. $1,200. Here we go. Here's the it. $1,250. Okay. Here we go. Here's the reveal. $3,499. People are shouting no in the audience.
Starting point is 00:59:57 They can't even be happy for her. They're all excited. They're like, whoa. Whoa. That price point is way too high. God damn. But yeah, just nobody could believe. Like it just was completely out of step
Starting point is 01:00:11 with anybody's reality except for Tim Cook's, it seems like. That's like, oh, it's just my rent in San Francisco for my one bedroom. That's just my rent. It's easy, I can buy it. Again, like with the point about the mainstream media, like when it dropped the mainstream media headline, five ways in which Apple vision pro will change how we work a game changer and immersive learning five ways Apple vision pro
Starting point is 01:00:36 could transform education and training. Yeah. I'm sorry. I hate to get emotional again, but I just did crunch the numbers. That means David Zaslav can only buy 41 AppleVision Pros per day. That sucks, man. That's how meager his sound. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Miles, why are you so good at math? I use a calculator. Okay. I was like, damn, this dude is really... Because you imagine if I was like a math savant. For real, I was like, you got to be doing something else, man. Problematic capitalist math. So what did they make? That's 142, that's only 41 Apple vision pros.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I can only, I can only break things down in Apple vision pros. You can see the crowd of numbers floating around his head. Like in the TV show numbers. No, that's blunt smoke. That's not. All right, numbers. No, I'm smoking up blood.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Sure thing, numbers. I'm using a calculator. What sales for the Apple vision pro were poor despite what the media would have had you believe to the point that Apple had to suspend back production in 2024. Leaving a factory full of tens of thousands of undelivered parts. Reminded me of the cyber truck. Who, who, who, why did they think that people would be able to buy a computer that was a computer that was a computer that was a computer that thousands of undelivered parts reminded me of the Cybertruck. Who, who, who, why did they think that people would be able to buy those? Like, yeah, I mean, I remember when the iPhone first came out, it was crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Like it was a thousand dollars and people like, why the fuck would anybody pay that much for a phone? I'm fine with my Kiyosera. Right. And then people did. And you need a phone. I'm fine with my Kiyo Sarah. Right. And then people did. And you need a phone VR. Exactly. Like it's entertainment. Like you don't necessarily need VR to go about your day. But I think that's where they fucked up because they acted like this was going to change fucking everything the way you write an
Starting point is 01:02:17 email the way you do this. And really, to me, I was like, the only thing I think could be fun is watching TV on it. And it's like, taking up everything. But even then they say like, the screen quality isn't great to even watch like a film. It's like, sure, it's huge. It fills up your visual space, but like, but the quality's not good.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Yeah, it's like, doesn't like the, like, you know, like, you know, they always say the intensity of like the color black or darker colors against lighter colors. You get these like, these blooming effects or not. I thought they would have at least gotten that right. No, you want to be able to do your emails better.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Yeah, like this. That's what it's for. God, you know what I really like doing is my emails. Yeah. Even the pitch for that. So just if there's a way to make that process like more interesting and fun. I wanna use my hands, you don't have any with the keyboard.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Why would you even pitch that as a solution? Like, ooh, you can send emails better with your eyeballs. Like, how are you even doing that? Are you doing it with your hands like this? How are you even using the right emails? I don't Tim Tim Apple. You got an I think that's what they should do is always just make a limited number and then see if people start flaming
Starting point is 01:03:23 you for using that shit in public. Stop making it. Yeah. Stop making Google Glass being bullied. Yeah. Google Glass would have learned way earlier because the second people started stepping out of the people. What the fuck are you? Who are you? This ain't demolition man. Get the fuck back in your house. And then like people, I remember there were people fucking around trying to be like, I'm using a vision pro like on the train. Some of those were fucking clearly a bit, but then you'd see other people. They're like, you know, this dude is brought this shit to a we work Yeah, this and they're like no this is People are not accepting it and also the price it makes bullying work sometimes
Starting point is 01:03:59 Unobtainable. Yeah, it's just it was only adopted by people with the inability to feel shame. Yeah, or like the hyper Apple stance. Like, you know, like I have, I know people like that. People in my family who are like always, I need the latest Apple thing. I'm like, you have no job. Right. You have no job, sir. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:04:22 They're like, but if I had the Apple, I'm like, no, you won't, bro. I can see my resume better. Yeah, yeah, right. You have any idea how many resumes I'm going to get to send out? One of the things that this article in theinformation.com, all these websites in the tech world, what the fuck, was cited both a weak demand, high price,
Starting point is 01:04:43 and lack of apps available on it. And in this case, I feel like apps is short for literal like applications as in uses of the thing I'm holding in my hand. Like what, what kind of applications, what are the applications for actually using this thing? Like nobody could figure that shit out. Anyways, Apple is full speed ahead on a more affordable version of the Vision Pro, which will address exactly one of the reasons that it totally flopped.
Starting point is 01:05:11 But VR gaming seems like it's on the way out. Like Minecraft just ended their VR support. More than half of game developers were polled and said that the VR market is currently declining and stagnating. And of course, the biggest VR flop visionary and the visionary himself, Mark Zuckerberg and his metaverse, which, uh, lost around $70 billion. Wow. 70 billion dollars. That would like $70 billion would make you one of like 70 billion dollars would make you One like ten years ago would make you the richest person in the world. He lost that I'm still fine. He's still fun and he's oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:05:55 Yeah, he's still like buying Hawaii to make like fucking volcano lair Yeah, people who have never been punched in the mouth But that's why he that's why he does j does jujitsu probably because it doesn't involve any striking. He wants to. Yeah. Cause I feel like people make fun of him a lot and he's like, well, yeah, say it's to my face. Now I know how to arm bar.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Yeah. They're like, okay, get your body guards out the way. Let's go outside in the sun. You want to catch a pair of ones, sir? Met his chief technology officer. This is the person who works for him, claimed that the metaverse idea was a legendary misadventure. Like it was a fucking Michael Douglas movie from the eighties.
Starting point is 01:06:35 People's legendary misadventure. Yeah. You know, what's so wild is like, you know, when a tech company reports a $70 billion loss, that means fucking layoffs immediately in the next quarter because they have to fucking address that in their shareholder price. But like, if then it's, it's so many people lose their jobs for less that you can be like, we pissed away. So what a legendary misadventure.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Dude, that was a legendary fucking time. Yeah, he tried it. Talked about it like a bachelor party. Yeah. Right, right, right. It's like, no, how many people got laid off after that? I don't even know, man, like probably 10,000 or something. We ruined lives.
Starting point is 01:07:15 We ruined lives. Legendary, dude, legendary. And it's never the person whose idea it was, right? Was it Mark's idea or was it somebody else who was like, Mark, we should do this thing. And he's like, okay. Or was he like, you guys. It feels like it was him the whole time.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Yeah, it seemed like there was a lot of, because I feel like there are smart enough people that work at that kind of like, I don't know. And he's like, I think we should do it. They're like, you know, Mark said it and he was charismatic that time. So. Oh, like that? Just monotone?
Starting point is 01:07:42 I believe you are hearing me talk. I believe we should do this. He's the al-Gordal. Get the Riz on that guy. Oh, no. Yeah. And now we're just seeing everything shift to AI. They just have to jump from one overhyped future technology to the other.
Starting point is 01:08:03 It was like right as the metaverse started to flop, Zuckerberg was like, AI I think is really going to be interesting. Okay. Guys, everyone avoid AI then if he just said, yeah, the metaverse guy is not saying this is the next thing. Okay. They were doing comedy shows with the art during pandemic. I was like, you don't you have to have a headset to do it?
Starting point is 01:08:30 And they were like, yeah, I'm like, we are unemployed. Yeah, what are you doing? They're like, can you buy an Oculus headset? Like, no, I'm currently fighting a neighbor over paper towels. Right. I don't want to tell Dick Jones right now in here. This is weird. Alright, that's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks.
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