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So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist.
Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, AKA, and he will blame it all on wood or ice. Swear it's not a bladder leak.
Make you to nod like it's fine.
And wish that he had worn some deep pens.
That one's less than zero on the Discord,
the popular hymn on Eagles wings.
But I have probably heard as much as
any song in the history of my life because every Sunday,
man, that shit was popping.
Standard.
Standard.
A standard. Thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host,
Mr. Miles Gray.
It's Miles Gray, aka.
On Grok today, hallucination.
I'm working late, cause I'm a singer.
Okay, that's it.
Hannah Ray McVeugh, thank you for that aka.
I just, that's, I asked you on the Discord,
I asked Hannah, I said, what?
Is it meant to just be, oh Grok today, hallucination,
I'm working late cause I'm a singer?
She's like, yeah, I couldn't make the rest work.
I'm sorry, I said no, this is perfect because because I'm a singer." She's like, yeah, I couldn't make the rest work. I'm sorry. I said, no, this is perfect.
I love a simple hand-ramex view.
Dude, because I'm a singer is,
I think my favorite lyric in Espresso.
It's just like I'm working, because I'm a singer.
Because I'm a singer.
Hell yeah.
More musicians should just talk about how they're singers.
My favorite songs are those hard rock songs that are like,
so fucking hard, man.
Being on the road.
Yeah.
People make fun of my long hair.
You don't understand.
I heard a guy say,
is that a here a hymn the other day?
Do you know the song I'm talking about?
No.
What is that?
I was about to say
Turn the echoes of the amplifier ringing in my head. Yeah. Yeah smoke the day's last cigarette
Wondering what she say. Yeah. Yeah
Bob see as covered amazingly by the one and only Metallica
Jam that Metallica then covers? Yeah, dude.
Oh.
I actually heard it for the first time as a Metallica song, so I will never get that
version out of my head.
It feels like they're reaching so hard to try and find some hardships that they're enduring
as internationally touring rock stars.
And then all these beautiful women are fighting over you.
It's very chaotic.
People try and give you their drugs.
I watched their documentary, Some Kind of Monster on a yearly basis.
That's probably my favorite music documentary of all time.
You think James Hetfield was like, man,
we need a song about how hard it is to be Metallica, man.
People don't know.
You don't know, man. They can't fucking know. Yeah. And they just-
You don't fucking know, man.
They can't even come up with something-
I had to move to Vail.
Yeah.
They're like,
they're like, fuck it, man,
did another artist write about how hard it is
being a rock star?
All right, we'll just cover that.
Make it a little-
So like espresso just being like,
"'Cause I'm a singer."
Yeah, exactly.
I'm working late,
"'Cause I'm a singer."
Okay?
What else do you need to know?
A little hard.
Not that hard. Yeah, You just wanna, you know,
haunt some elk and drive your,
whatever the rocket powered car thing that he drives.
I know way too much about that band.
So we could just do a whole podcast on that.
Who had a rocket powered car?
James Hetfield.
It's in some kind of monster.
He gets pulled over by a cop
and then the cop recognizes him and it's the whole thing.
And he like has this moment where he's like,
what do I expect?
Is it like I ride this thing
and because I don't want to be noticed?
It's like, wow.
It's kind of amazing.
It's like, I think I'm a narcissist.
And then they cut to Lars just on the couch
just talking about his paintings.
Yeah.
Oh, right.
That's right.
It's Miles, that third voice.
One of our favorites.
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He's a world renowned rock guitarist.
You know his face from Mortal Kombat.
Please welcome back to the show, Shah Jahan Khan.
Shah Jahan Khan.
What up?
Coming to you live from the shores of Boston, Massachusetts.
All right.
As planes fly overhead.
Hey, shout out Logan.
Apologies to your cell people.
Yeah.
Shout out Logan.
Yeah, I'm looking at it.
There it is. There it is. Fuck shout out Logan. Yeah, shout out Logan. Yeah, I'm looking at it. There it is.
There isn't like a pyramid shaped hotel in Boston somewhere like on the
harbor. Is there a pair? There's a like a formally known as when on core
casino. There's a very orientalist dodge Mahal type situation casino. Oh, I
don't know that there's a pyramid shaped hotel. There's a, there's a iconic Harbor hotel in Boston.
Uh, I think I know what you're talking about.
Yeah.
Like, oh, it's the Hyatt Regency Boston.
And it's got that big like arch in it.
The one that's on Logan.
On the water.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe I've any Boston people are going to probably be thinking that I don't know what
the hell I'm talking about.
I just remember what I'm talking about
I just remember what I was what I was talking about the one with a big arch in it and then like a little Taj Mahal
Type thing on the like a little bit. That's that's that's the casino. That's the encore casino that I was talking about
No, there is also a hotel. I'm talking about this thing. Oh
I was totally there course. It's on the fucking child's dude, yeah
Exactly, dude, of course, of course, no cuz I that's like the only situation you should have said the double stepladder
Yeah, sorry, I should have said a Mesopotamian rectangular structure
That I would have read a Mesopotamian rectangular structure. Thank you. That I would have reckoned. That's my own ignorance.
And my father went to MIT right down the road from that.
So I'm embarrassed about not only to my city, but to my family too.
Flex.
Super flex.
My dad worked for Kodak, bitch.
Hell yeah.
That's right.
Ever heard of it anymore?
Exactly.
Because they invented the digital camera and then kind of fucked themselves over.
No, you haven't heard of it?
Oh.
So they kind of, yeah, they sort of Skyped themselves out of the game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe he lost his pension.
So moving on.
Oh no.
Shajahan, how have you been?
It sounds, sounds like busy.
I've been, I've been okay, man.
I've been, uh, you know, I'm sure we'll get into how we're all really doing.
But yeah, fortunately, the last few years from a career standpoint have been a dream come true.
In many ways, I'm doing a lot of things I always wanted to do.
I'm very much still a struggling artist. And yeah, I'm alive, man.
Hey, there it is. That's what we need.
Some people don't understand how hard it is to be a struggle. No, they really don't here on the road
They should really refer to the song turn the page by Bob Seeger slash Metallica to really understand
You're like in first class and everyone's looking at you because they're like, I know I recognize him from somewhere and you're like, yeah
But do they like recognize me like Like do they actually see me?
I mean, scrounging for peanuts.
Yeah, in first class.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what I meant.
Yeah, when they try to take your cup,
I'm still chewing the ice.
I've never been in first class.
I have been one in the once in my entire life,
my family got upgraded to business class
on the trip to Pakistan back
when British Airways still flew to Pakistan, but I had never flown first class ever.
I'm not saying I won't.
So I mean, if anybody wants to hook that up, like come down.
I mean, surely you're hiring land from succession, man.
He's got its first five.
Clearly.
It wasn't that I lied and said I was a New York local and packed for a day of work and
realized that I was going to be there for a week and then basically had one pair of socks
and had to like, it was totally.
Oh, did you have to, oh, were they only casting like New York locals for that?
And you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm local.
It was my first job that my, I had done this film, Aftermath, in 2021.
And then I did this like lifetime murder mystery. I had done this film, Aftermath, in 2021.
And then I did this lifetime murder mystery. Those are my two things where I actually got lines and stuff.
And then after that, my local Boston agent,
we were like, yeah, maybe we should try to get a manager.
I was like, so how do I do that?
Do I just ask other actors, like,
hey, can I have your manager?
That didn't really work.
So.
They're like, well, if you don't look like me, yeah.
That's usually what happens when you ask other people, like, hey, how's your manager? And they're like, well, they you don't look like me, yeah. That's usually what happens when you ask other people like, Hey, how's your manager?
And like, well, they're kind of, you know, we kind of be going out for the same stuff.
So maybe fuck off.
You know, we already got a couple of Pakistanis.
So the quota has been filled.
Maybe we could move.
But yeah, I started, I was then connected to my awesome manager, Melissa young.
Uh, and you know, the first job we booked was this character, Len, on
succession, supposed to be party guest number four. You never know what these cost and this is my
first ever TV booking. You never know what these co-star roles. Yeah, I literally got the email.
I just jumped in my car and started driving. I was like, yeah, it's like one line. It'll be like a
day. Right, right, right. I got there and she was like, no, no, on the way. She's like, yeah, it's a
five day booking. I was like, oh, okay. On the way she's like, yeah, it's a five day booking. I was like, oh, okay.
And then in the email somewhere, it was something about a green room. And I was like, yeah, that means like we're all the background
actors sit together and you know, like we just chill.
And I got there first day and it was like, no, no, you have your own hotel
room with the cat, the cast is on the same floor as you.
And I then from there, just my mind has continued to be blown.
Everybody was super cool, but I literally, dude, I packed for two days.
I had two pairs of boxers, two pairs of socks.
I didn't have enough clothes.
So I like wore the bathrobe like in the room.
I like your clothing.
People were like, why don't you just even go to Target
and like buy other stuff?
I was like, you don't understand.
Like I was trying to save money, dude.
Yeah.
So it was a wildy. Oh, and I put one of the dirty socks.
I have not told the story publicly. So here we go. I put one of my dirty socks, like to air it out.
Like I opened the window. I do that every time in the room, every single time. And then the sock fell.
Dude, it was a while still there. It's probably still there.
It's probably still there.
Wait, you air your socks out too?
I always air my socks out.
I always leave my shoes outside too.
Because I just do that. I got a foot sweat thing.
It's like, yeah.
Me too. I've said so much. Can we move on?
Thank you, Jack O'Brien.
I have clear, like, you know, I have very formative memories from, you know, basketball
camp when I was 10, 11 and just everybody on the entire dorm floor that I was staying
with being like, what the fuck is that smell?
And then like one time they figured out it was me.
And it was just, yeah.
You just triggered a memory.
Someone before I dropped out of college, the first time I'm a trifecta of a dropout girl I think
her name was Anya she once entered me in my poor roommate Darren's room was like
hey your guys room always smells like dirty socks what's up with that is that
something about that in a very is it haunted or what is that yeah are you an
Armand Hammer foot powder user oh yeah size. You know what I'm talking about Yeah, yeah, of course and then the way my mind is like
Both the same person like not even like yeah, you know, you're the little army. Yeah
Specific thing. Yeah, I know I overpack socks. So like as you were talking about like having that experience
I was like sweating
Who's the rapper from cribs who was like, you know what I got famous so that I could wear a new pair of socks every day
Oh
That oh, you remember this episode. No. Yeah, I mean it feels like a very cribs thing
Yeah, I mean red man is the most memorable one. Yeah, I don't know but he would
Frozen pizzas and stuff
and he's like playing N64 and then walking.
And he's like, that's my cousin on the couch sleeping.
Yeah.
Francesca, what's something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are?
So I was looking at my DuckDuckGo,
which is what I used to search things, obviously.
Shout out to you, VG.
Because maximum privacy, maximum quackery.
And I
Found this search history that was like from a few days ago. That was just baby airplanes overhead
I was like what the fuck was I looking? Yeah, can you think about like when I say those three words?
What was I trying to look up?
One of those things for a crib? No.
No?
Oh, like a mobile?
Like a mobile, no.
A mobile, okay, you see, baby airplanes overhead.
So it's not a mobile airplane mobile.
It's that you were looking for maybe some kind of baby accessory that could go in the
overhead.
Yes.
Like a stroller?
I was image searching because back in like the 60s, right, you
know, airline travel was a lot calmer. It was a lot chiller. Like now, you know,
climate change has ruined all the jet streams and, you know, everything's crazy
turbulence. Is it nothing of the FAA? But back in the day, they would put babies in
the overhead compartment like a little sling and they could just sleep there.
And look, I don't, and they could just sleep there.
And look, of course it wasn't safe.
Nothing was safe.
There weren't even car seats back then.
But like, it's just so, I love the image of that,
and I was sending it to a mom friend of mine.
Like, you know, what happened?
America used to be great, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, exactly.
We're chicken shit now.
You've seen them, right?
They're just like little baby in, I don't know.
Oh my God.
That's so crazy.
Shout out to, man, shout out to the sixties, man.
Like, yeah, we're smoking a cigarette.
Yeah, yeah.
Beyonce's bringing it back.
1950s, 50s.
Maybe she'll bring that back too.
Yeah, Beyonce, bring back babies in the overhead.
That's so good, in the 50s.
Aw. Look at that baby.
See, then there's plenty of space.
Now you're just figuring out how to squeeze in a coach. God damn it. When America used to be so we had Jim Crow laws and babies could be in the overhead.
Exactly.
Take us back, Beyonce.
So funny.
Baby overhead.
Baby overhead.
Shout out overhead projectors too.
Did you guys have Francesca?
I know you're requisite lead elder enough to remember overhead projectors for school.
Oh, they still do those.
Oh yeah.
Polly V you had them too.
Oh, hell yeah.
Okay.
They still they still fuck with us.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, overhead projectors for school. Oh, they still do those
Oh, yeah, probably you had them too. Oh, okay
So they still fuck with overhead projectors with the V's IV pens on a transparency
I think it's it's an easier way than like a whiteboard
Yeah, cuz you don't have to get up you like yeah, let me just write on this lightbox
But I mean, or you just using your computer these days
I love just watching the teachers hand like erase everything they just wrote.
If they were a lefty, they'd be like, oh yeah, this is smudge.
Yeah. Yeah. Or they had to do that like crazy hook hand to be like,
I will not smear the ink that I'm writing. It's a spoil.
Poor lefties, man.
What is, Tim, something you think is overrated?
Something that I think is over.
Okay. So I'm a big geek.
Like I love technology and I got to tell the people
from my tech ivory tower,
where I get a very good view of everything.
You got to stop buying flagship phones.
They're so expensive and so unnecessary.
Like 99.9% of the population should be buying cheaper phones
than what they're getting. And this applies for laptops and tablets as well.
We've sort of, in a bunch of different devices, we've reached peak thing.
We've reached peak phone like years ago, peak laptop years ago.
So you can either pay $3,000 to get the best laptop on the market
or literally pay half that amount
to get like 95% of that laptop.
And it's the same with phones, all the cameras now, as long as you're paying
like above sort of $400 US for a phone now, you're going to be getting like,
the camera will be pretty fucking similar to the one you'd be paying $1,200 for.
You think I want 95% water in my toilet?
You think I'm going to have a 95% as good phone?
I'm American, okay?
I want a phone big enough to defend me from the mass shootings, all right?
What about this?
What about this?
Save money by not buying two flagship phones, by buying one flagship phone.
Buy two mid-range phones you can
put one in each breast pocket and then no matter which way the shooter comes
from you protect it. That's pretty good. And also it's just a great flat like having a
disposable phone that you just like drop. Well now we fucking need one. Now we need one to get back into the US.
So when you're talking flagship is that like iPhones and like Apple products, essentially?
Top of the line stuff.
Fancy.
Just don't get the, like no one really should be getting the top of the line stuff.
And it's where all the companies make all their money.
Because the stuff below that, the profit margins are a lot lower.
They're so expensive, but also like they require such like geekery to like know the difference
between like what you're missing and what to like know the difference between like what
you're missing and what you like want for what you're doing.
It's fucking it's a status symbol.
It's like pure status symbol.
So please invest a little bit of time in going to therapy and sorting yourself out rather
than getting like a $1500 phone.
Yeah, that's your dad's here now.
What what what phone do you have?
Um, I'd ask you not to out me like that.
Please.
I thought you were going to give me some insight into like, I'm a big nerd and I
got a really good deal on it.
So I got one of those funds that folds.
Oh, I love those.
Yeah.
It's pretty extra and I have just made myself a pretty big hypocrite, but I'd be, I'd be super happy
with like, um, for example, if you're an Android person, there's like the Samsung.
A Samsung has really good cameras.
I feel like great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fucking great.
They're cheap.
They're great.
Would you, if you were a person who wanted a non-flagged ship phone, would you be
alienating yourself in a group chat?
Would that be an issue?
Oh yeah, what's the deal?
Because I've always been an Android dude,
because I'm a nerd.
So what's the deal?
Didn't they fix that?
Didn't they fix that now?
If you don't know about the green bubble,
you are the green bubble.
Yeah, I know, but didn't they fix it?
Didn't they get like-
I think there's probably a way to get around it.
They got them talking to each other now?
Maybe.
I don't know.
I still enjoy that discrimination.
I think that's like Affleck's by Apple
to make sure that you don't, yeah.
The only people in my life who pay me out
for having an Android phone are my like very good
comedian gay friends exclusively.
Okay, so that's me?
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you're queer ass friend.
We're friends?
What's that?
Oh no, oh no.
Yay!
I'm talking too deep.
What is something you think is overrated?
Okay, I wrote this down and I was like,
people might get mad, but it just came from,
cause I didn't have time to like,
I just like, this is from the gut.
I think Sabrina Carpenter is overrated.
Oh my god.
I know, and I'm already like regretting saying it,
but it is my truth.
And I don't even like, it's not that I don't like her,
I just, I think there's this like stardom that happens now
that I think she's great,
but I think the level of stardom that happens in the few years to
become these megastars because of, I don't know, digital consumption, it feels blown
out of proportion compared to the artists we saw growing up that we tracked over a career
and watched them really rise and hone their talent.
But specifically Sabrina Carpenter.
But she kind of represents that for me.
I don't know, because I see her everywhere and she's cool.
But like, I don't know.
I'm just like, why is she that big?
She's fine.
I feel like I'm already saying this and I'm going to get backlash.
But you know what?
I think she's overrated.
I don't think she's a bad singer.
When I hear her early stuff, I think she's overrated. I don't think she's a bad singer. I just, when I hear her early stuff,
I don't hear like, she didn't find her voice for a while.
And now her real thing is just kind of being like,
she's got a look and she's funny, which I think is cool.
But like, as a singer, I don't really know,
like I don't really know what her voice is.
Mm-hmm.
It is weird like who gets anointed the next thing
where I'm sure there's a like a hundred, you know
But like Sabrina carpenter a Sabrina carpenter bees, you know, like like a bunch of different ones. So
But I'm but I think she's great
I just she's so big or maybe I'm maybe I'm getting a lot of it on tik-tok
but I am getting a level of Sabrina
that makes it look like she's like Brittany.
And I don't feel like she's our Brittany.
Like, I don't think she's there unless I'm being naive,
but I feel like we saw like, you know,
like, and before Brittany, there's a Madonna
and people compare Brittany to Madonna
and they compared her early.
And I think she rose to that.
So maybe Sabrina will rise to that,
but I feel like she's getting that kind of exposure
where I'm not seen as an artist.
It feels like it manufactured,
like the people around her like,
let's keep making money off of this person
as opposed to like, she's like,
this is what I wanna do next.
Yeah, and Jack, Sabrina Carpenter is a pop star.
Who is a pretty popular.
She's not a carpenter?
Sorry, I was over here Googling,
trying to find some of her work. She's not a carpenter? Sorry, I was over here at Google and trying to find out,
trying to find some of her work.
She's Jesus' dad's daughter.
Yeah, she has a nephew baby. She's related to Jesus.
Yeah. I like Nick Offerman and then I was trying to find out if this was another one of these carpenter.
I don't know enough about Sabrina Carpenter to hold a strong opinion. I know the song Espresso and I know
Miles was just talking about the fact that there's a part of that song where she goes,
Kazama singer. And I do like that. Those moments. She has some funny, I think she's getting into,
like she's exploring her voice and that funny part is coming out more. But yeah,
it does feel like, you know, the 80s monoculture where it was like Madonna and Michael Jackson,
and that's plenty.
We have all the artists that we need.
And then it's been just like a fracturing into like all the pieces of those artists just like
break out into different musicians and they all become big and everybody buys all the albums.
And I don't know.
It seems to be working out for them, but I, I feel you.
I do hope it's working out for them.
I mean, I think it's working out for her, but it does scare me about the industry,
but because I think it's becoming more and more the same people behind the
scenes making money and they'll just throw her away or put someone else new
out there and hopefully she, you know, is savvy, but it does scare me a bit the way they turn people
out.
Are you typically a fan of like, is Brittany the previous version of this that you're like,
this is how it's done?
This is what pop star looks like.
I'm a Swifty, I went to Taylor Swift, so I'm not like here to like, I'm not saying like,
oh my God, Sabrina Carpenter, a girly pop, like, that's not really what I'm trying to say.
But I think that, I don't know, maybe it's something, wow, this feels like therapy.
Maybe something more sinister I feel about the industry.
Like it's like as it's falling apart and they're taking away from new independent artists,
they are also like slapping like, you know, people like Sabrina, she's going to make a lot from it, but they're
not necessarily have her best interests at heart. And I feel like you see that with Chaperone,
but she's more vocal about it. But it feels like there's something like crumbling in the
back and that scares me. And meanwhile, everyone's just like, money, money, give me more. But
no, to answer your question, I love pop. I mean, I had a podcast about Ariana Grande, so.
That's right.
Yeah.
So Ariana Grande is the truth and Sabrina Carpenter is the white lie that people are
telling themselves.
No, I don't want to pit them against each other.
No, I'm not trying to pit two women against each other.
You're either team Sabrina or team Ariana.
You can like both.
But Ariana's voice, I will say, is very consistent from the beginning.
You hear her voice and it's like, you're like, that's why that needs to be recorded.
Yeah, yeah.
I hear her sing and I'm like, why she got show off like that?
Yeah, but she's a great singer.
Serena Carpenter, the only other thing I'm aware of other than because I'm a singer is
the, there seems to be a meme linking her as like the Hillary Clinton with the substance.
Like if Hillary Clinton took the substance, she would be super head carpentry.
I have not seen that and that is interesting.
I see that a lot.
Sounds good to me.
I see that a lot.
I see that.
Guys, I see it everywhere.
I see it everywhere.
Anyways, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk about the enhanced
games.
We'll be right back.
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here.
Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist, Denity King alum
Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place.
Some people saw that you were going to be in New York, and they immediately started jumping to conclusions.
So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify in the Diddy Trial? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise
based on her first-hand knowledge.
From her days on Making the Band
as she emerged as the breakout star,
the truth of the situation would be opposite
of the glitz and glamour.
It wasn't all bad,
but I don't know that any of the good was real.
I went through things there.
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents, Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the
iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
What happens when we come face to face with death?
My truck was blown up by a 20-pound anti-tank mine.
My parachute did not deploy.
I was kidnapped by a drug cartel.
I just remember everything getting dark.
I'm dying.
We step beyond the edge of what we know.
To open our consciousness to something more than just
what's in that Western box.
And return.
I clinically died.
The heart stopped beating.
Which I was dead for 11.5 minutes.
My name is Dan Bush.
My mission is simple, to find, explore, and share these stories.
I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor.
You're strongest when you're the most vulnerable.
To remind us what it means to be alive.
Not just that I was the guy that cut his arm off,
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This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Jay Shetty joins us.
The people who need the most love often ask for it in the most unloving ways.
So when I see someone's behavior,
the first thing I try and think of
is how is that a plea for love?
Whatever behavior you see from someone,
it's them asking for love in some way.
And I think we see it in children the most
where when a child's throwing a tantrum,
they're simply asking for presence, love and connection.
And I think we're all just big children
who are still asking for love, still seeking that approval, still love and connection. And I think we're all just big children who are still asking for love,
still seeking that approval, still wanting that connection and that embrace.
And also to meet everything with love, right?
When you can come from a place of love, even when you're dealing with anger
or frustration or any of the things that don't make you feel good,
to just return it with love is a beautiful lesson.
Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news
show up in our lives in small ways.
Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding.
But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one.
The demand curve in action and that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's
Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chafkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday
we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on,
why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives.
With guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone,
sports reporter Randall Williams,
and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull,
we'll take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms,
even the signal chats that make our economy tick.
Hey, I wanna learn about VeChain.
I wanna buy some blockchain or whatever it is
that they're doing.
So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
And we're back. Trump's tax bill was finally, it got out of committee over the weekend. It died
on Friday and I was like, oh, look at this, Chip Roy found a backbone.
I mean, he's always been a pretty big deficit hawk,
but he came along with, I think six other Republicans
tanked it on Friday only for them to do whatever they had to do
because Jesus jerk off eyes, speaker of the house,
Mike Johnson was like, what do you guys need for you guys to at least
let this thing get out of committee? Apparently they made those concessions.
I was like, that sounds like a MyPillow guy.
Well, no, I think as long as we came together with a common sort of understanding about how
we're going to move forward with this. Now we're just, I'm sorry.
He does, he does. He to move forward with this. Now we're just, I'm sorry.
He does. Why Obama going with this story?
He's very, but he, Mike Johnson is very one note like that.
And it's very, you know, he has the same look, man.
I don't even do a good Obama, but I guess my miles do it.
Oh my God.
He's killing me.
I'm back.
These gays are killing me. I'm back.
So anyway, this thing is now, this is now the real fucking, this is the time.
Are they going to ram through this reconciliation bill that basically has all of the things
Donald Trump wants for his agenda, right?
Like he needs to make sure that the Trump tax cuts don't expire.
He wants to increase military and immigrant harassment spending.
He needs a bigger budget for that.
He needs to raise the debt ceiling because I thought this was to attack the debt.
But also, we kind of needed some room there to have a higher deficit.
And then part of all that is to power this by slashing so many social programs.
It even makes Republican members of Congress's eyes bleed. They're like, I this actually will decimate rural
health care systems if we do this. What am I supposed to do? So this was all
happening. Moody's also downgraded our credit rating. Just, you know, sure. It's fine.
It's all just fine. But there's still just a ton of disagreement like within
the party. Like there's some that a ton of disagreement within the party.
There are some that are arguing like,
these cuts aren't deep enough.
We need no one to have nothing is one strategy.
Then other people are like,
cutting Medicaid is a non-starter for me.
There's no way I can go to my district and be like,
yeah, man, you're fucked.
They're terrified of the town halls.
Yeah, already, already.
And then others take an issue with the number of clean energy projects that are being gutted.
Some are saying not enough clean energy projects are being gutted.
There's just then you have all the New York, New Jersey, California Republicans who are like,
we need our salt tax cap raised or abolished completely.
So everyone has like their own specific thing.
How Mike Johnson makes all of this work, we are yet to see, but he has pressure because he's been telling Trump, I'm
going to have this on your desk by Memorial Day, baby.
So we can really fucking kick this thing off.
But yeah, this is interesting is that like they could just do this the way they did
the first Trump tax cut, which is be utter hypocrites about the deficit,
which is, again, kind of largely made up depending on how you look at it, and just ram them through anyway and add $4 trillion
more to the deficit like those tax cuts did.
Five trillion, five trillion.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah.
And allowed, you could write off your $60 million private jet.
That was one of the many things in addition to your yachts.
But the fact that they're trying, they want to do this big, beautiful bill. They're trying
to do everything in budget reconciliation. Remember, which was where also the Democrats
in 2021 tried to get through like a $15 minimum wage and then Kyrsten Sinema voted that shit
down. But like, this is what's so difficult about all this
is that you can't please every single person
and you're being totally dishonest
because all this bill is about
is simply a wealth transfer to the richest people.
So stop talking about Medicaid.
Don't even make it about Medicaid.
Find the money somewhere else or don't find it at all.
Just live in your own hypocrisy.
This is gonna help man
when all the billionaires
get a tax cut. It's going to trickle in a direction. It will trickle somewhere.
You don't understand. I want to be richer while immigrants get poorer.
This is great. You'll love this.
And I do want to hurt people. Okay.
This is for you. This bill is for you. Actually, there's a whole trillion dollars to terrorize
immigrants in here. Okay?
But this is also really important. Yeah. I mean, that's fucking insane. While the same
time you're like, oh, sorry, we can't. So not only is a direct wealth transfer to the wealthy,
the already wealthy, it's a wealth transfer to, you're not going to have healthcare, disabled
person, poor child, new mother, you work because we have to round up children and women and grandmothers
with all of this, you know, terrorizing them.
And put three-year-olds in immigration court?
That should fucking kill me.
Do you think manhunt island costs nothing?
We're hunting men on the island.
How are we supposed to catch them?
How do we populate that island? We have to set out the island. How are we supposed to catch them? How do we populate said island?
We have to set out the mines.
That's expensive.
There's reporting that Trump is definitely
trying to manage all of it, too.
It sounds like the people that are
in battleground districts, he's becoming a little more
sensitive to, because he does not
want to lose a chamber of Congress in the midterms.
That's a huge thing for him.
So even now he's kind of like trying to be like, what the?
How do I fucking have it all ways at the same time?
Because he definitely doesn't want to have a bunch of Democrats
in have enough power to do investigations.
And he has to defend himself against, you know, his own fucking actions.
But then he wriggled out of that just fine.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, don't worry.
They won't anyway, even with the majority.
We saw what happened in the last four years.
Oh my God.
Remember that when they beg you for your vote again, be like, sorry, what happened
the last time and what will you do different this time?
They're like, well, we aren't them at least.
Oh, we're back to the same thing.
You're not them.
We're going to slowly think about possibly holding Donald Trump accountable.
But democracy, let's decide it by the ballot box.
Just give me five dollars.
I just for the love of God, I just need five more dollars.
Hello, I'm upset as you are.
I'm upset.
There was a video of her recently I thought was AI.
I was I'm not mostly because. She a video of her recently I thought was AI. I was, I'm not, mostly because-
She would be the first congressperson to-
It was the cadence.
I was like, it's a little jilted,
like I was like, what's going on?
And I was like, oh, right.
Jilted, it got left at the altar.
Yeah.
Yeah, she was just,
I don't know how that came up, but yeah.
No, jilted, I do this shit all the time. I'm just being an asshole.
No, no, I love it.
I think I do want to think of it like this.
She was left at the altar, you know, and that's why she talks like that.
By her dentures.
Her dentures were like, please.
Sorry, you're on your own.
But yeah, so the other thing too is like a lot of the shitty cuts that are being proposed,
like cuts to snap or like Medicaid, they're timing those so they don't hit until the end of his turn to
basically make a fucking catastrophe for the next administration, which could be
him.
Exactly.
I don't know.
Does he want to run again?
But it's weird.
He's doing the sort of maneuvering as if he's like, man, I'm gonna be out after
this, but at least we can reset the clock on making the Democrats
be responsible for a financial situation we created.
He's acting as though he's gonna be out in another month,
like with the amount of shit he's done so far.
Oh, totally.
I mean, that's what's crazy about this whole,
it's been only over a few, whatever, like three and a half months.
Nine days, yeah.
They're like, it's a sprint, not a marathon, And we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Slow your roll.
There's plenty of time to destroy everything.
Yeah.
Face yourself.
Hello.
Like, don't burn all your capital, your, your political capital like that in one go.
They stretch it out a little bit.
Don't do this big, beautiful bill.
I mean, this is what they're doing, right?
Because this is they could not in 2017, cut Obamacare.
That was, remember the town halls there.
So-
They have to kill it indirectly, yeah.
Right, but it is still a massive swing
to even say the word Medicaid.
I mean, good on the media, whatever is left of it
for making that the sole issue,
but some Republicans are walking into that trap
of being like, well, Medicaid, you know,
a lot of people are lying when they're on it.
And they're openly saying this.
The disabled people are lying about it.
And it's like, Ooh, that's not going to play well at all.
So Donald Trump should be fucking worried.
And I think this is where the pressure points are.
I don't give a shit about the other ones who are like, Oh, we
haven't found enough cuts.
Shut up.
It's the people who are scared of their own constituents.
Yeah.
Who know they're like, this has this this there will be fallout from this.
Like even Josh Hawley is like, y'all don't fucking Medicaid.
I don't know, bro.
And I'll do the thing where I sound like I'm going to be the first one out to try
and get myself covered to act like the most sane guy in the Senate by being
the first one to be like, that's political Suez.
I would not do that. That's immoral.
And then I won't stop it if it happens. Exactly. But I will be a yes vote.
It's very easy to backtrack and get back in Trump's graces later. Everybody has done it.
It's a lot easier to go out and object and then go back in.
But the groceries, it's such an old fashioned term. Why not just leave them behind?
When I came up with that term, I remember the year was 1859. I came up with the term groceries.
It was a fantastic day.
Eat those groceries. We were right in the came up with the term groceries. It was a fantastic day.
Eat those groceries.
We were right in the precipice of the civil war.
I was doing, I was doing analingus on one of my friends and I realized. He said I did the best analingus.
I didn't have a thing of saying, I ate the ass light.
And then, aha, groceries.
You know, I taught Omari on those moves.
It just wasn't hitting when I said I ate the ass like my haul
when I got back from the general store with salt pork
and the like included.
And I needed something a little bit more concise.
I also gave him the idea for icebox.
So one of the things, like for just just the things that
are timed differently, like SNAP benefits, right? They wouldn't
shift the cost to the states for SNAP benefits until fiscal year
2028. Medicaid work requirements that Republicans are being like,
this will this will be like a good $300 billion hit of
savings. That won't begin until 2029. So they're doing they're
trying to do as much to as with also sweeteners to be like, there'll
be a new senior victory fund grant you can get or a baby
senior reinventing the shit that we already have.
There's just Well, I don't like but even the thing like right,
like the the cutting the taxes on tips and things like that.
Those aren't even while he did say that and it's popular. Like
the economists that are like are talking about this are saying like,
it's not going to be that big of a thing.
This is it says the proposed tax cuts only apply to income taxes, not payroll taxes.
That means the estimated 37 percent of tipped workers in the country
who didn't make enough money to face federal income taxes in 2022.
That's when this analysis happened, would see no benefits from this proposal.
This is another economist, a quote, it is also going to do very little for workers, even that received tips at the low to middle part of the income distribution.
Tax policy center tips accurately, if at all.
Yeah, literally just dangling keys, hoping we'll get distracted.
Sure, truly, truly.
Like there's a lot of stuff that they want to be like, look, everything that's going to be great now, but only to throw money on like, you know,
this is different than 2017 when like interest rates weren't as high. Like, getting going even
further into the muck with like this dumb, like all this ridiculous spending is just going to keep
us pretty entrenched in this situation or If not worse, maybe, who knows?
But again, the thing that can potentially be on the side of
maintaining the terrible status quo we have now is just all the Republican in fighting,
but Trump is determined because again,
none of his policies are popular enough to just take on a vote on its own.
Exactly.
To your point, Francesca, it has to happen through reconciliation because if you said,
hey, I need a $1 trillion.
Let's terrorize the immigrants fund.
They're going to say, get like, no,
no one's going to fucking vote.
They're also going to say how you're going to pay for it.
Right. So that's why they have to do it by cutting Medicaid,
which then yeah, but this has always been the Republicans problem.
When they're in the majority too,
they're always infighting, it's all between, you know, the budget hawks
and then just like the anti-immigrant psychos who are like,
hey, we didn't take down every single gay flag in this bill.
Didn't say to, you know, burn them.
So I'm not going to vote for this. And everyone's got their little pet issue.
But again, I can't believe again, we're still like we've
stopped talking about Elon a little bit, but like we
should not. You know, the dojo is doing are still and
the access to our information is still very alive.
We talked about that on yesterday's episode about how
like there's this article in Politico that's trying to
act like Elon's gone away.
And I'm like, you guys are fucking playing yourselves and the readers by
being like, and he's gone, Trump doesn't even talk about him.
It's like, there's, again, Trump is not turning his back on the richest man
in the world who got him into office.
And who knows what other fucking shit that he helped enable, like just
with his money and influence.
Like to then be like, and now like none of the Republicans are talking about it's like, you're just gearing up
for midterm so people can't be like,
Elon Musk is doing all this stuff, but let's be real.
He's a stain on fucking everything.
Yep.
No, no, no, Elon's gone.
We're fine on that end.
Biden was actually a good guy and don't look at Israel.
It's not doing anything right now.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
They're just, you know, there's just a terrible spike in the humanitarian crisis there with the lack of any just like they're continuing to bomb hospitals. Nothing has changed. Nothing.
So anyway, we'll see what happens with this endeavor that the Republicans are, you know, getting ready to undertake this week.
So hopefully, I don't know, hopefully it fizzles out, but they're going to, they're definitely going to do fucking everything they can
to try and get as many yes-wells as possible.
But the margins are thin,
like Walmart's profit margins, as they say.
That's why they're worried about the tariffs.
Next one. I don't know if you saw the clip of Bruce Springsteen
just doing very boilerplate criticism of Donald Trump
he's like he's immoral he's corrupt this guy's bad.
It reminds me of like De Niro like De Niro's taking a stand against him you know?
Fuck that guy.
Yeah I mean at least he said fuck that guy.
Bruce was like hey man this guy's bad and I'm like yeah that's true I think he was in the UK when he said that so that was met with like.
My favorite part began there's some things happening not good things in the world and tell them Bruce
Yeah, yeah, but some bad stuff like what cool specifically. I'm a little too insulated to know specifically what things
But I hear it's bad and corrupt
podcast partner
Yeah, used to tell me some stuff
Barry used to tell me some stuff.
Oh, my God.
Barry used to tell me some wild stuff, man, about the way
we can use drones now to do shit.
I had no idea.
Had no idea.
That's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about some other stuff.
Donald Dump.
That's him.
He's back.
So he said this.
This set off a fucking truth social storm on Monday morning at 1 34 a.m. This is what Trump just for whatever reason starts shitposting quote, how much did Kamala Harris
pay Bruce Springsteen for his poor performance during her campaign for president? Why did he
accept that money? If he's such if he's such a fan of hers? Isn't that a major and illegal campaign contribution?
What about Beyonce? He did put the accent mark on the E
He better have. He would have died if he didn't.
He doesn't he doesn't want smoke with the hive. He doesn't want the hive
I guess or maybe Seattle, correct. And how much went to Oprah and Bono?
I'm going to call for a major investigation into
this matter. Candidates aren't allowed to pay for endorsements, which is what Kamala did under the
guise of paying for entertainment. In addition, this was a very expensive and desperate effort
to artificially build up. It's fucking nonsense. How much has Vanilla Ice gotten for performing at Mar-a-Lago? Like, the money that they have to shell out
to get anyone to show up to their shit.
I mean, Snoop was at their inauguration,
Carrie Underwood was at the inauguration.
But that being said, I also kind of want an investigation
on how much money was spent on celebrities,
a billion dollars in what was it,
three months that the Harris campaign spent. But it is it's just so fragile. You won. You
won.
So motherfucker, you're out here switching up fucking pardons to get
black people to wear MAGA hats like fucking Lil Wayne and Kodak black like
what are we talking about? You're the most transactional motherfucker we've
ever seen.
Boss got mad at me. That just shows you.
I don't want anybody from Jersey to get mad at me.
Why do we call him the boss anyway?
I imagine there's only one boss.
Well, he may be the boss, but I'm the commander in chief.
So fuck out of here and everything he said.
Because he loves Bruce Springsteen music.
You know that's true.
He's played it.
They've told him, bro, do not play this shit.
He played it at a thing in New Jersey. I think he's played it. It also feels like music of a man that's true. Like he's played it. They've told him, bro, do not play this shit. He played it at a thing in New Jersey.
I think it also feels like music of something.
Or maybe he was talking shit about Bruce.
I know at one point he liked Bruce Springsteen,
but then Bruce Springs, he's like, no, fuck out of here.
And then he's like, fuck you then forever.
And it's been like, yeah, I never liked you anyway.
What?
Yo, I, it's also just really terrifying because I just saw this an hour ago.
I guess the president of CBS is resigning, uh, saying the company and I don't agree on
the path forward likely in relationship to the Trump lawsuit.
Cause Trump again is trying to sue CBS for editing an interview with Kamala Harris to make her sound minimally
more cogent because of course everyone should edit those fucking interviews. It was a funny,
funnily enough, an interview question about Gaza. It was long-winded. They edited it.
They do this all the time. Fox News edited the shit out of their one-on-one with Donald Trump on the campaign trail, making him look far more sane.
And it's just scary, right?
Because you're like, this kind of retribution
or whatever he's doing, all these investigations.
I mean, look, anything to take the heat off,
I don't know, a woman selling tamales on the street,
that's good.
But I'm also like, people are capitulating, you know, like what's.
Yeah.
Wait, so is the head of CBS resigned because they wanted to capitulate?
That's unclear.
Yeah, we don't know.
But that's unclear.
So it could be like, she was like, no, I think we should pay.
Yeah.
And that's probably, that makes more sense because then they would be like, well, I don't
want smoke.
I'm going to resign.
And then they'd be like, what do you think?
I think she resigned because she doesn't want to pay.
She probably wants to fight it.
Oh.
And then the pressure is to be like, fuck it.
Right.
We need that money to pay for more TV shows about Afghan war vets or whatever.
And they're pet Indians who are supposed to play Afghani.
Yeah.
And like, cause there was like, uh, like, I mean, the shit is still going back and
forth within 60 minutes to be like, man, fuck out of here, bro.
You're not going to tell us what to fucking do.
And there's yeah, there and yeah, and there had my oh, my God.
Just go cry on your big pile of money.
My heart goes out to how much I would love to cry on a big pile of money.
I mean, do you think you'd be able to even cry? You like, wait, hold the fuck on. My heart goes out to how much I would love to cry on a big pile of money.
Do you think you'd be able to even cry? You'd like, wait, hold the fuck on.
I'm on a pile of money.
Yeah.
Like real indecent,
indecent proposal.
You know, yeah, yeah.
My way through it.
Just having your eyes with your fucking one hundred dollar bills.
Oh, and they get a terrible eye infection because money is filthy.
It's true.
All right.
It's true.
Let's take a quick break.
But I can buy healthcare.
Hey, you can.
We'll come back to talk about the American dream, but the one you win via reality show after this.
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here.
Diddy's former protege, television personality,
platinum-selling artist, Denity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a
unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the
street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were
going to be in New York and they immediately started jumping to conclusions.
So can you clear that up?
First of all, are you here to testify in the Diddy Trial?
Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise
based on her firsthand knowledge
from her days on making the band
as she emerged as the breakout star.
The truth of the situation would be opposite
of the glitz and glamor.
It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real.
I went through things there.
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents, Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeart radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
What happens when we come face to face with death?
My truck was blown up by a 20 pound anti-tank mine.
My parachute did not deploy.
I was kidnapped by a drug cartel.
I just remember everything getting dark.
I'm dying.
When we step beyond the edge of what we know...
To open our consciousness to something more than just what's in that western box.
...and return. I clinically died. The heart stopped beating. open our consciousness to something more than just what's in that Western box. In return,
I clinically died.
The heart stopped beating.
Which I was dead for 11.5 minutes.
My name is Dan Bush.
My mission is simple.
To find, explore, and share these stories.
I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor.
You're strongest when you're the most vulnerable.
To remind us what it means to be alive.
Not just that I was the guy that cut his arm off, but I'm the guy who is smiling when he cut his arm off.
Alive Again, a podcast about the fragility of life,
the strength of the human spirit,
and what it means to truly live.
Listen to Alive Again on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen
to your favorite shows.
This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler,
Jay Shetty joins us.
The people who need the most love often ask for it in the most unloving ways.
So when I see someone's behavior, the first thing I try and think of is how is that a
plea for love?
Whatever behavior you see from someone, it's them asking for love in some way and I think
we see it in children the most where when a child's throwing a tantrum,
they're simply asking for presence, love and connection.
And I think we're all just big children
who are still asking for love, still seeking that approval,
still wanting that connection and that embrace.
And also to meet everything with love, right?
When you can come from a place of love,
even when you're dealing with anger or frustration or any of the things that don't make you feel good to just return it with love, right? When you can come from a place of love, even when you're dealing with anger or frustration or any of the things that don't make you feel
good, to just return it with love is a beautiful lesson. Listen to Dear Chelsea
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives
in small ways.
Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has
gone up.
So now I only buy one.
The demand curve in action.
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And did you guys see the new Jurassic World Rebirth trailer?
No, I've been actually, I saw that it came out like two days ago and I stopped myself
because I'm kind of excited that I don't want to fucking see it.
I didn't watch the trailer yet.
I'm a little bit excited about it too because the, so the one thing that's given me hope is that Gareth Edwards
Is directing it he's a guy who made like rogue one and the creator and like started off with an indie movie
That like was somehow an end like a low-budget indie movie that also was about giant monsters
And he also made that Godzilla movie that was like kind of divisive but a massive hit but like he's always
With puff daddy and Jimmy page that one not that one. No, no, no, no, no, that one's like a
universal
Disaster everybody agrees that one sucks shit that I think that was that's the Ken Watanabe one
Right when he when he first joined this that one that's from that those Roland Emmerich. I think hey man. That soundtrack was hot
I'm just saying Dan and it then and I never I remember the best raid one of the best rage songs no shelter
Yeah, man, that was good stuff. I had that sound to remember why
Deeper underground that was the first time I heard that song. I I remember I buying that soundtrack and my dad was like
Why are you listening Nick? What is this remix of cashmere and my dad was like, why are you listening Nick?
What is this remix of cashmere? And I'm like, yeah, I'm like this is come with me puffed at him
I was like, yeah
No surprise come with me and you're like, what the fuck?
He's like, what is and then the SNL performance were Jimmy Page and puff daddy sure
Yeah, and then I remember my dad was like you'd really fuck with Led Zeppelin if you think this is good
And I'm like alright, and then that's what he I remember he talked to me about John Bonham for 15 minutes
And I fucking why I got so bored. I'm like dude. I got a fucking oh my god dad
Shut the fuck up. You're so bored. Wow I get it Wow he somehow plays just behind the beat for this interesting pocket feel
I don't give a fuck right now. But they only used one mic in the song
when the levy breaks.
His son tried to do it.
He didn't quite have the same chops as Bonzo.
I'm like, OK.
Fuck, dude.
Can we go to Taco Bell to get this gordita?
I'm trying to get the Z piece to spell out
Godzilla to win this family a fucking billion dollars.
I feel like that was the least that Diddy did not add a lot to that song.
No.
I'm going to say.
And I know it's controversial to speak ill of Diddy right now.
No, literally, like metrically speaking, I don't think he added much.
Yeah.
No.
He would just like kind of shout it over.
It's cashmere.
He's like, what if cashmere was this other song I yelled on top of?
Yeah.
What if I yelled on top of Cashmere?
Would that be cool?
But anyways, this director has always seemed fated to make a Jurassic Park movie.
They are dropping these things fast and furious.
They're just, you know, they ended the last trilogy,
and this must have already been in production.
They were like, the final Jurassic movie.
I just saw the original.
I have never seen one after that.
The original Jurassic Park is a perfect film.
It's very good.
It still holds up.
I love it. Every time they re-release it, I go see it.
Because I'm permanently stuck at like nine years old for me when it came out.
Oh, totally.
That's also why, for whatever reason, I think, you know, I've had a tough year.
I'm like, I think I need this to be my regression.
I need this to be good.
I fucking need to regress in the purest fucking way.
Don't fuck this up for me, Gareth.
They haven't.
So here's the thing that they haven't tried doing since the first
Jurassic Park is they haven't tried making a good one.
I mean, I guess they try.
Maybe AI could help them with that.
Thank you. You're a couple of steps ahead of me.
Okay. You caught that lob.
Steven Spielberg made the second one and it had some amazing sequences,
but overall it was pretty bad.
Not one of Steven Spielberg's best movies.
bad, not one of Steven Spielberg's best movies.
I feel like Jurassic World, the reboot after the first three that were based around the original movie.
The reboot Jurassic World,
I think of that as the point at which we were fucked as like film goers, because it is,
it's the perfect encapsulation of this new model where instead of like people who love movies being
the head of like development in studios, they had marketing teams as the head of studios. And like,
they were just like, well, we got to like make a Jurassic Park movie where like the park's actually open,
right? And it's like, yeah, that's a,
that is an easy movie to make like great trailers for and like ads around.
And like the premise is just like fucking sure fire.
And then, you know, the notes,
like apparently it was just an impossible movie
to make and it was kind of a mess. It was very like mean. So there, there is a Jurassic
Park ride that is based around rafts that is like kind of the main one, I think at Universal.
And that one is it like people were always like, it's kind of weird because the book
that the original movie is based on,
like the centerpiece,
like the most exciting sequence and kind of the most like cinematic.
The first one, like after reading the book that as a like 12-year-old,
I was like, well, that's going to be an awesome movie scene is a raft chase.
And Spielberg just didn't end up putting it in because they had plenty without it,
I guess.
That they have put in this movie.
This movie is written by the writer of the original Jurassic Park screenplay.
The trailer is heavily featuring this raft chase where a T-Rex is chasing them down a
river.
I remember they showed a section of it in the first one.
I was like, Oh, yeah.
They really kind of let you know that this is going to, they really
let it breathe in this one.
There's something terrifying though, about like a T-Rex being slowed by
water and you're in a boat.
Like that's even more psychologically fucked up.
We're like, yeah, fuck.
I'm look the water resistance.
It's like a slow motion chase. Cause at least they were in the Jeep when they were running from Logically fucked up really yeah fuck. I'm look the water resistance
Is at least they were in the Jeep when they're running from the t-rex in the first one Yeah, have you ever been like trying to run in water as fast from a t-rex? Yeah
Yeah, yes Spielberg apparently storyboarded the sequence for the original movie they just never shot it
I think it was also like crazy expensive.
When you look at it, it was probably between that and
the part where the dinosaur just eats the dude in the bathroom stall.
Yeah. The lawyer.
They chose wisely.
Yeah. Get the lawyer.
Obviously.
Yeah. When you look at the making of that original movie,
it's like there's a lot of,
it's kind of a miracle because like so little of it is actually CGI.
Like most of it's just puppets
and shit like that. And then they just like mixed in moments of CGI, which is why so much
CGI since then has been so fucked because everyone was like, well, they did Jurassic Park with CGI.
It's some, some, some.
Yeah, they did some CGI. It was like 70% amazing, like the best in class practical effects we'd seen on film up to that point, plus like some shading from the CGI.
Yeah, it's like it's still fucking Stan Winston's genius that made that film possible. It's like his creatures, the Stan Winston creatures are like the fucking real engine of that movie visually.
the fucking real engine of that movie visually. But our writer, J.M. McNabb, he's been on this for a while.
First, his theory is that Steven Spielberg even made
Jurassic Park in the first place because he gets a cut of Universal Studios money.
And he was like, this is going to be a sick ride.
People are going to go to this.
This is going to be the best ride that I've ever made.
He also points out that the ride is based on that scene in the movie.
There's always a chance that Spielberg is pulling the strings here to be like,
what if we did, we finally made the River Raft ride?
Yeah. Well, because then I guess his first bite of
the apple would have been the ET adventure as river raft ride. Yeah. Well, cause then I guess his first bite of the apple would have been the
ET adventure as a universal ride.
That's probably the thing that got him the deal where they're like, Hey man, if
you want to like make some rides based on your movies, like we'll give you a
cut of the gate at the parks and the ET ride was fine.
I mean, they, the ET did say your name at the end.
If it was in a name of a database of traditional names, the ET did say your name at the end if it was in a database of traditional names
a computer could say.
I did write some traditional names.
Yeah, because I remember going with my Japanese cousin, her name's Misako, and I'm Miles,
and in the beginning they're like, say your name or you type it in.
And it was like, goodbye, Miles.
And then my cousin, they're like, it's going to say your name, Misako.
And it was like, it was just like, no. It did say shit. It wouldn't strive. They're like, it's going to say your name, me suckle. And it was like, just, it was just like, no.
They're like, yeah.
Yeah.
But calling her Martha or something.
Goodbye, honey.
Goodbye, sweetheart.
Goodbye.
But anyways, I don't know.
The rebirth subtitle is actually giving Friday the 13th sequel,
where they made a Jason Dice movie and then we're already in production on the Jason Lives one.
There's a crank right out.
But a lot of the big action moments actually are like have dinosaurs
coming out of the water, which kind of reminds me of Jaws.
I feel like it's, it's giving Jaws.
Oh, you love that.
Scarlett Johansson is like shooting one of the dinosaurs with like a spear gun,
just like in Jaws.
So I saw that in the trailer, there was like that mega dinosaur that's like
flops out of the water next to that boat.
And I was like, oh my God.
Wow. You said the dinosaur's name,
like you're hanging out with your kids a bunch.
Did you say that?
He's clearly off the book for this.
There's a cute children's book called Papasaurus.
One of the dinosaur friends that this dinosaur kid
is playing hide and seek with his dad. One of the dinosaurs he visits to ask if they've seen his dad is the
mosasaurus and that mosasaurus is a little nicer than the one in this
trailer oh wow thank you dad okay so it's not scary it's not scary okay I'll
watch it I'll watch it but yeah and started, did you say muscle source? Mosa.
Mosa, okay.
I'm thinking like proteinasaurus or something.
No, yeah, yeah.
Ripped.
That's the creodactyl.
I think there's some dactyls in this one.
That is my favorite thing about the later movies.
I guess they didn't really have the ability to add some dactyls.
Yeah, to get just...
And not technically dinosaurs.
Get sucked up in the sky by a fucking pterodactyl? That's big money, bro.
Sucked off into the sky.
That's a fatality right there.
Exactly. Fatality.
All right. So we do want to end on some good news. And that is that according to a new study, the universe and everything in
it will decay into nothingness way sooner than anyone expected.
Oh, thank God.
Oh, my God.
That's the that's the ideal thing.
We all go together and we don't have to feel bad, you know.
So what is it like in like three weeks or what are you looking at?
So fucking AI, you know, yes.
Yeah, let it rip, dude.
Let's Ghibli meme it up.
I don't need a job. Yeah, let it rip, dude. Let's Ghibli meme it up, man.
I don't need a job.
Fuck yeah, fuck this dude alone.
Yeah, I'll default.
Before bearing on my loan, that's all good.
Yeah.
So they used to think it was gonna be
10 to the power of 1,000, 1,100 years.
They used to think it was gonna be
10 to the power of 1,100 years,
but now it's apparently gonna be
10 to the power of 78 years. So one followed by 78 zeros.
And that's soon.
Sooner. So this is an issue. Yeah. By orders of magnitude,
I guess 78 and 1100. Ah, well,
all right, fine. I woke up a little earlier this morning. Once I read this news, I was like, I got some shit to do, man.
I got to grind it out, dude. Add those, add that one extra hour.
I'm cutting my carbs, dude.
Yeah.
I get my affairs in order.
You start talking like a grindset, dude.
You're like, nah, dude, I saw that headline about the universe.
And I woke up an hour earlier.
Okay.
Add that up over a week.
I've got a slight advantage over you add that up over a half a year.
I definitely have.
I've been doing about a three weeks more worth of work than you have. And I've been doing up over a week. I've got a slight advantage over you add that up over a half a year
I definitely have I've been doing about a three weeks more worth of work than you have add that over ten years, man
I'm gone you wake up in the morning. I'm standing over you shredded shirtless
And guess what and I'm the doctor. I just delivered you for birth. We started the clock over
That's how ahead of my time I am.
OK, counting my money, counting my Bitcoin.
That's an actual thing I saw on YouTube
short where guys like you got to think of this way, man.
I'm waking up with those two extra hours.
I don't sleep yet.
That he like extrapolates that he's like within three years.
I've actually done seven lifetimes worth
of work that you have it.
And you're like, no, you just sound sleep deprived.
I've started like 35 companies.
Yeah. No, it's precisely, it's that kind of like, just very loose logic. We're like, yeah,
35 companies. I've bought way more crypto. I've lost like three teeth.
All because I started doing ice baths, man.
Yeah, exactly.
All because I started doing ice baths, man. Yeah, exactly.
Right.
But yeah, so this is because the universe
will gradually decay due to Hawking radiation,
first proposed by Stephen Hawking,
which involves particles and quantum fluctuations
and a bunch of stuff I totally understand about black holes
that I'm not gonna bore you guys with right now,
even though, like I said, I understand it.
It's just boring to you too.
Like mine, like you, I can see how it would be boring.
No, I'm, I'm pretty interested.
So like what can you kind of explain?
Look at that time.
Uh, so that's all the time we have for today.
Uh, it's kind of a shorter episode.
I know.
You sure?
Or like, what do you, what it all comes back to black holes.
This is the thing You got to understand.
And so near black holes event horizon, the intent field prevents
annihilation, obviously, we all know that.
Right.
Sure.
Do you ever be like a physicist or a scientist to have like something named
after you, you know what I mean?
I mean, unless you want to be generous, unless somebody like wants to name it
after me, what, you know, when they're w which I would recommend the O'Brien
bullshit scale, the whole bullshit.
Dude, he's off the charts on the O'Brien scale.
It's a 3.6 on the O'Brien.
But basically the, so the event horizon the event horizon process that I was just describing that we all understand,
over long time scales, Hawking's theory suggests, and this is just how I talk,
I'm not quoting space.com here. Over long time scales, Hawking's theory suggests this process
causes the black hole to slowly evaporate, vanishing and once that happens all bets are off
You know Wow. Oh, wow. So easy to get your I'm just like I'm like how but what would I experience like do we all just?
Like like go to turn to dust like some Thanos slap snap
But then I'm reading about how the end of the universe would cause a big crunch where everything's goes
And then that would set off another big bang.
And we start the universe all over again.
Kind of beautiful.
Kind of, it'll like be a big crunch and then we'll realize we were just like
some particle in some other like vast thing or just like minuscule dust on the
ass of some other thing, fade to black, fade to black.
And then a Bob Dylan song comes up.
So everyone, Mona, the sun was down.
I was singing, but yeah.
And the end, the universe.
You said that you and your wife sing, but other music and Bob Dylan voice.
What's the, what's the best match you found there?
Oh man.
Oh God.
I can't, I think of something else.
Happy birthday to you.
I don't know. Maybe something else. Happy birthday to you. I
Don't know maybe like something like beep beep. So now I'm running him a dude. There we go. Hook the G-Wagon, I want the machines that are making them.
All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.
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in the most unloving ways.
So when I see someone's behavior,
the first thing I try and think of
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Whatever behavior you see from someone,
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And I think we see it
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