The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 384 (Best of 6/2/25-6/6/25)

Episode Date: June 8, 2025

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This is an iHeart Podcast. is irresponsible son, but I have DNA proof that could get the money back. Hold up, they could lose their family and millions of dollars? Yep, find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Maren Morris is here. You came out of a marriage, you came out of quote unquote country music,

and you had a huge growth spurt from what I can tell. I was expanding and growing at a really fast pace and yes you could throw motherhood and the postpartum thing, learning about myself. There were a lot of like identity crises going on but I realized like I can't look back and slow down for people. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Camp Shane, one of America's longest running weight loss camps for kids,

promised extraordinary results. But there were some dark truths behind Camp Shane's facade of happy, transformed children. Nothing about that camp was right. It was really actually like a horror movie. Enter Camp Shame, an eight-part series examining the rise and fall of Camp Shane and the culture that fueled its decades-long success.

You can listen to all episodes of Camp Shame one week early and totally ad-free on iHeart True Crime Plus. So don't wait. Head to Apple podcasts and subscribe today. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. I'm also the girl behind voiceover, the movement that exploded in 2024. You might hear that

term and think it's about celibacy. But to me, voiceover is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's flexible, it's customizable, and it's a personal process. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it. Listen to voiceover on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello the internet and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week all edited together into one non-stop infotainment laugh stravaganza. So without further ado, here is the weekly Zeitgeist.

Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined by the host of How to Be a Better Human. Great podcast. Very funny. joined by the host of How to Be a Better Human. Great podcast. Very funny National Academy of Sciences live traveling game show, wrong answers only. Welcome back to the show. The hilarious, the talented is Christopher. Christopher.

Hey, I also look like PP. Hey, there he is. He looks like he's drenched in pee pee. Absolutely soaked. Yellow diamond in the sky. In the horse foam. That's right. Lathered up.

The lather. Lathering. My man's foaming it in today. Oh no. Chris, how are you doing? Where are you coming to us from? I can't believe it's been a year. It's been a year. Yeah.

I felt like yesterday. Every time we're like, bro, we gotta have Chris back. And I, in my mind, you've been back. Oh, thank you so much. You know, it's been a, there's been a lot going on in the year and, bro, we gotta have Chris back. And in my mind, you've been back. Oh, thank you so much. You know, it's been, there's been a lot going on in the year and I'm glad to be back. It was a joy last time. I'm so, I'm a fan of the show

and I'm glad to be back, fan of you too. So that's great. Oh man, oh man. Mutual admiration society. What's your favorite U2 song? Oh, with or without Jim. Oh, you meant us. Oh, wait, which one did you mean?

No, that is, meant you to the band I don't even like the two of you. Thank you. I'm not a fan I'm so sorry. I love the Irish band you too. I thought you're gonna be like, all right, which was your favorite episode? Real good you've only got 1800 to choose from. Yeah, I know. I couldn't name a single one. And I've been on every almost every one of them. I don't even know how we haven't repeated a title at this point.

I mean, we probably have, but nobody would notice. No, we have pretty. No, we've got some keen-eyed listeners for sure. Your listeners are very much on it. I think they would know for sure. Well, you'd have to be keen-eyed for the titles, is what I'm saying. That's right.

Yeah, yeah. Because they're the same people who tell us like, hey guys, you guys are coming up like on a milestone. We're like, really? Our what? Our data doesn't indicate this much. As we've talked about, we batch recorded all of these back in 2017.

So. You know what else I love about your fans is, you have a group of listeners who are so great, love the show and they are both very detail oriented and focused and also the kind of people who are like, Hey, I'd like to make a pee pee joke. I love that combination of people. We're threading the needle here. We've threaded the needle.

Yeah. What is something from your search history? Oh gosh. Yeah, guys, I was looking through this stuff. One thing, another P joke that I fell into before without even knowing we were going to talk about this is you guys know Bigfoot, right? And not personally, but like aware of the idea. There's there's a version of Bigfoot as a cryptid out in the interior of China and its name is, I guess in English we would say Yiren. Y-E-R-E-N. And so we did our best on stuff they don't want you to know to do an entire episode about the scientific investigation into the existence

reported of this creature without doing p-jokes. And I want to be honest, we fucking failed. Yeah. Yeah, we couldn't. The name's right there. It's right there. You know, we're no Pusha T, but we are fans of puns, I guess. Yeah. You're downstream. You're downstream of Pusha T. We're downstream. but we are fans of puns, I guess.

You're downstream. You're downstream of the people. We're downstream. Very NPR-ish, you guys. Yeah. NPR-ish. Thank you. Downstream. Hashtag no joke left behind.

What's interesting about this for any fans of cryptids is that unlike the Big Foot stuff here in the US or Canada, in China, partially due to the aftermath of the revolution, the communist revolution, there was this move to replace superstition with science, right, to look at spirituality as an opiate for the masses, etc. And so they poured a lot of money into going into these mountainous, remote regions of China and trying to find this thing.

Or to find a way to explain it, basically. They were like, taking it seriously. They're like, yeah, it's out there and we're gonna find it. Like, imagine, okay, imagine if all of us listening tonight, we, we went to the white house and we said, Hey guys, uh, we need millions of dollars to look for Bigfoot and it needs to be a federal program and the white house said, yeah, I think pocket go, that's what happens.

I can see that. Like you probably have to ask RFK. He's like the, the parent that's what happens. I guess you have to ask like you have to ask RFK He's like the the parent that's asleep with the wheel that you make. Hey, can we like something billion dollars like big place? Yeah Yeah, I feel you've Don Jr Pitched RFK on this it'd be happening tomorrow, you know, you don't think he has just like What are we gonna do for the fucking Yeti threat, man? They've already got like a line of coolers and shit, man, and cups and stuff.

What's fucking next, bro? What's going on? That's good. So I just wanted to confirm, because Ben does sometimes write down a search history, he's underrated over here before, and I just, I think it's probably a smart move that you changed it from how to test if the bathwater content of a soap that you ordered through the mail.

Yeah. Yeah, that's between us, man. You said you were going to be cool. Yeah, yeah. No, I just, I think it was probably the right move. We'll definitely cut this out. What is something you think is underrated? Okay.

Taking classes as an adult without necessarily pursuing a degree. I think that like learning is really dope and I am a nerd at heart and I love a structured environment where I have a teacher and like classmates. And so I've been taking writing classes on Zoom because I decided to design my own mini MFA program. So I just found on different websites like writing workshops and through writers I

follow when they teach and I have been taking classes and it feels really great. I keep announcing that I'm going to class to no one all the time. Sorry babe, I'm going to class. I got to go, I'm going to class to no one all the time. I'll just go. Going to class. I got to go. I'm going to class. And I like, well, like mime a backpack, but I'm just walking to my office to be on Zoom. I really like it. And I like having classmates and I like having group

like chats with your new classmates. And I like learning about people's lives and I like learning new skills and I think that if you have been on the fence about taking a class, you should absolutely do it. You community, community college, uh, zoom, whatever. I mean, what a joy. Yeah. Cause I remember in like the height of lockdowns, a lot of places were just

offering full courses in video form that you could just mess around with and to see if you wanted to take a lecture at Harvard or something. Yeah, just having two, two and a half hours a week where I am in class and I have to pay attention to other people's work and be really detailed and just learn stuff. It does something really good for you. I never thought about recording 420 Day Fiancé like that, but yeah. I feel that. Just being open-minded,

seeing people through other people's eyes, really taking detailed notes, then sharing them with your class. Yes, exactly. I, in a way, am also taking MFA courses. We're all doing it. It's such a good idea. What was the first step you took to start taking classes? Because I feel like I would like to do this and just have not.

Chloe Caldwell, who's one of my favorite writers and now a good friend, I follow her on Instagram and she was posting, hey, I'm starting this class, this is the name of it. This is, you know, how many days, this is the cost. And then I emailed her and I was like, okay, I wanna take that class. And then that kind of got me rolling. And I've done like workshops too,

which are just like a week or a weekend or something, if I can't commit to like, you know, a six week class. So yeah, that's how I started. Then once you are in the world of it, it's so much easier to find other stuff. I highly recommend writingworkshops.com. I do not work for them, I just like writing workshops.

Nice. Anyway, do it. Anyways, do it. Do it, I will. What's something you think is overrated? I think that doing everything together, specifically like as a couple or like if you're traveling with people or like just any kind of unit of people who are going to do an activity maybe and like the pressure to do it all together

and not be able to like split off if there's a disagreement about what should be done. Just like this like, yeah, the pressure of like, no, we have to do this together. Or again, if someone's like in a romantic couple ship, they're like, no, I won't do this without my person. I have to do it, we have to do everything together. I think that's overrated.

I think people should feel free to branch off, break off. Who's catching a... Tell me who's catching a subliminal stray right now. That's what I want to know. I should just be able to have fun on my own. Maybe you don't have to bring your partner this time. I don't know. I get that it's new and exciting, but please.

I get the thing, too, like when you go to like a theme park, too, when people go like, literally, I'm going to go like, motherfucker, I hate that ride and I'm going to be an asshole if you force me to go on it. Why don't you do that? And I will go have a churro and I'll be right here when you're done. This is absolutely fine. But people act like, like no we have to do this together or like The one good thing I feel this and like I feel like I've had experience where I'm like guys we have cell phones like we where I'm like, guys, we have cell phones. Like, we have cell phones.

We can easily find each other again. Yeah, we're still living like we're in the pre-cell phone era. Like, cell phones have ruined fucking everything. Just at least enjoy this extra luxury of just being like, yeah, we can fucking split off. I can put my hood up and go ghost protocol like I like to do sometimes on family vacations. Wow.

Damn, go full Luigi on them. No, it. Yeah. Go full Luigi on them. No, it's okay. Daddy's going ghost protocol. You can tell because his hoodie just went off. You mean he's having a panic attack in line for the ride so he just put his hood on and stares at his phone. I'm going ghost protocol, y'all. Ghost protocol.

It's just so funny to say. Really spicing up the fact that you're just feeling kind of off about shit. Sorry, I got to go ghost protocol. I'm off this. That's great. No, I go ghost protocol all the time. If I'm like traveling with someone and they want to go to like some fucking museum that

I don't give a shit about, I'm like, great, you go do that. I'll go do this other thing. We can meet up later for dinner or whatever. Like quick question, totally random. Who is the last person you went on a trip with? Unrelated to that. Totally unrelated. We're just curious.

And they're listening right now and they're crying. No, I, well, like when I went to Ireland a few years ago with my sister and she was like kind of under the impression that we would do every single thing together. But she kept wanting to do things that I didn't want to, like, that's not how I wanted to spend my time. So I was like, if you want to, by all means.

And I think she learned some independence. And then, and I learned how to, you know, clearly but considerably establish some boundaries. Advocate for yourself. Yeah. Experience for all of us. Yeah. Because you said you and your sister's personalities are pretty different, right? Quite different.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I do remember you saying that. So this tracks, okay. Love you though. Love you though. Yeah. Love you, Sarah. She's not listening. She doesn't care about anything I do. Okay. Maybe we could have done a podcast together, but you don't want to do that.

All right. It is good that we have this new piece of evidence because I think a lot of, Jamie was on last week talking about going to the Snoopy Museum. And I think people would have been like, Caitlin did want to go to the Snoopy Museum. Oh yeah, no, no, no. I would have been like, Caitlin, did one go to the snowpea museum? Oh, yeah. No, no, no, I would have gone, but I wasn't invited. No, I'm kidding.

No, everything is fine. Love you Jamie. Just wish we spent more time together. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. To most people, I'm the girl behind VoiceOver, the movement that exploded in 2024. VoiceOver is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's more than personal. It's political, it's societal, and at times, it's far from what I originally intended it to be.

These days, I'm interested in expanding what it means to be voiceover, to make it customizable for anyone who feels the need to explore their relationship to relationships. I'm talking to a lot of people who will help us think about how we love each other. It's a very, very normal experience to have times where a relationship is prioritizing other parts of that relationship that are being naked together. How we love our family. I've spent a lifetime trying to get my mother to love me, but the price is too high.

And how we love ourselves. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it. Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. DNA test proves he is not the father. Now I'm taking the inheritance. Wait a minute, John. Who's not the father? Well, Sam, luckily it's your Not the Father Week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This author writes,

My father-in-law is trying to steal the family fortune worth millions from my son. Even though it was promised to us, now I find out he's trying to give it to his irresponsible son instead, but I have DNA proof that could get the money back. Hold up. So what are they going to do to get those millions back? That's so unfair. Well, the author writes that her husband found out the truth from a DNA test they were gifted two years ago. Scandalous.

But the kids kept their mom's secret that whole time. Oh my God. And the real kicker, the author wants to reveal this terrible secret, even if that means destroying her husband's family in the process. So do they get the millions of dollars back or does she keep the family's terrible secret? Well, to hear the explosive finale,

listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeart ReadyWAP Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Hamler. Maren Morris is here. You came out of a marriage, you came out of quote unquote country music, and you had a huge growth spurt from what I can tell. I realized I was expanding and growing at a really fast pace.

And yes, you could throw motherhood and the postpartum thing, learning about myself. There were a lot of identity crises going on, but I realized I can't look back and slow down for people. I want to set my own pace and I will sacrifice my comfort to move at the pace that I have worked really hard to move at. Literally everything that could change in your life happened in like five years for me and you know, it was a slow burn. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your

podcasts. Camp Shane, one of America's longest running weight loss camps for kids, promised extraordinary results. Campers who began the summer in heavy bodies were often unrecognizable when they left. In a society obsessed with being thin, it seemed like a miracle solution. But behind Camp Shane's facade of happy,

transformed children was a dark underworld of sinister secrets. Kids were being pushed to their physical and emotional limits as the family that owned Shane turned a blind eye. Nothing about that camp was right. It was really actually like a horror movie. In this eight-episode series, we're unpacking and investigating stories of mistreatment and reexamining the culture of fatphobia that enabled a flawed system to continue for so

long. You can listen to all episodes of Camp Shame one week early and totally ad free on iHeart True Crime Plus. So don't wait, head to Apple podcasts and subscribe today. And we're back. You know, just thinking, when I choked out that guy for walking out of anger management, that was a literal, oh, you think I said, oh, you're a tough guy, huh?

In my mind, it was, oh, so you're better than me. You think you're better than me. That was a subtext there. The thing that never doesn't make sense about that anecdote is you hadn't seen anger management. I understand that narrative as like an expression of like your selfish need to like have your taste validated. But you hadn't seen anger management yet. I didn't like the idea of someone disrespect be like I'm off this Sandman fan like is that were you just like no

Better than I was such a teenage mess, dude If fucking my brain was so fucked up from like puberty not knowing myself like ambient racism My parents splitting up. I'm sorry, ambient racism? Yeah. My favorite band. They're amazing, they're headlining Coachella. I know, it's your favorite band. I know, you got it tatted.

Yeah, so what? It's on my stomach, Tupac style, so what? I'm not tatted on, ambient racism. Ambient racism tattooed around my gun wound. It was really hard to fit it around my belly button. Like it was really fucking hard. Yeah, it was. It's a lot of so tiny. It's a lot of fucking letters.

OK, you can't tell what it hurts. It hurt. It just looks like I did a black arc. Like I messed up a rainbow. That's what it looks like. But it says ambient racism if you look closely. But the bottom line- I have to stretch the letters way out because I have a fucking huge belly button.

Huge belly button. That thing is a fucking dinner plate down there. Cavernous. Cavernous belly button. You gotta get the dinner plate navel. Cavernous BB. All right. Yeah, I've seen you eat ramen out of it.

On his back. Is it just the right? Yeah, you're on your back. You just sit there. It's right there. Why dirty a plate? His college girlfriend got alcohol poisoning from doing a body shot from his belly button. Too much.

That's not a shot glass. That's no ordinary shot glass, babe. Keep going. I just did seven big gulps. You're like halfway there. I remember when you almost died because he used it as a measuring cup for an Ikewell. I just saw a picture of a woodpecker's tongue that it wraps all the way around their brain to... What? ... when it goes in to protect their brain from the repeated... From the trauma. Yeah, the repeated CTE that they're giving themselves.

But self-care woodpeckers, that's all I'm saying. But that's how my belly button is, is just like a series of caverns that twists and turns inside my body. It's never ending. I mean, sometimes I know when Miles is on vacation, he's spelunking down there. That's what he was. I love that. He says he's in Italy,

but we all know the truth. People don't know yet. They're like, oh my God, if people only knew what I was actually up to down there. I mean, guys, Jack's whole- never mind how- never mind. I can't even begin to- There's a place down south that has the echoes of the gods ringing through it. Okay. All right. This episode is completely off the rails. What are we trying to talk about? We're talking about Trump got burner.

Yeah, he got burner. There was an Atlantic article back in April where they were like, What were we trying to talk about? We were talking about Trump got burner. Yeah, he got burner. There was an Atlantic article back in April where they were like, we scheduled an interview with Trump for weeks, did the thing you always do where you send it to the administration, they clear you, everything had gone according to plan. And then somebody within the administration was like, they're not nice to you. And so he started tweeting about how they were mean. They were like, he's never written a fair article about me.

And it was unceremoniously canceled. And so they pivoted and just called his ass, because you can find his phone number on the internet. Wait, hold on. What does that mean? I didn't read the article. How did they find his phone? And how come we don't have this fucking thing?

So they were pretty opaque about that. They said that like, we'll just say the White House staff has not been super, but good about making it keeping the phone number out of people's hands. Oh my God. So they just called calling this. Isn't it so delicious when you're like, I'm going to drain the swamp and just put all incompetence in charge. Yeah, exactly.

Whoopsies. Who's calling? The president of the United States asked according to the magazine. And then they just did a like hours long conversation with him. And this is apparent, which that was the thing that like stuck out to me. I was like, how the fuck does he use? Like he just spent hours talking to these people. Like after they called him unplanned, unprovoked,

the president of the United States, he was just like at his golf club. I was like, yeah, I know who you are. You're not very fair to me. But then just like, they were like, gave him a chance to brag about himself and he couldn't resist. Let's start from the beginning Donald.

It's just fun to know that the American president does not have anything to do at all. Exactly. He's like, I could not have any problems that I could think of to solve. I'm just going to go ahead and take this stranger's call for two hours. That detail alone should actually be the most frightening thing for American people because it's all these other pieces of shit that are doing all the day to day decision making. That's also the thing that came out in that Joe Biden book that people normally talk about was this moment where the whole immigration like Biden didn't

know what to do about immigration because he had no way to like he was bad at mediating the internal fights within the administration. He kicked that to Harris. Yeah. So there was nothing happening and they're like, what else was happening like that? He's like, I don't know. You guys handle it. Here we are. Yeah. It sounds similar.

I remember the Obama blackberry thing, but I didn't realize he was adamant. He was like, I'm keeping my blackberry They were like you can't and so he worked with the NSA to create a blackberry that like didn't have Various like it like you couldn't forward an email that he sent you and only like eight people had access to it It was very much like fine. just give them a fucking toy. Yeah, right, right, right. Well, they were like, we're gonna encrypt the shit out of this.

Yeah, they encrypted the shit out of it. Yeah, so your phone is not just completely vulnerable and available for the easiest of hacking. Yeah, and so he eventually- I think Trump went to the 7-Eleven. Yes, no, Trump has been less persuadable by reason from the article. So the Atlantic was just like, so let's do a deeper dive into this secret cell phone that we were able to use to call him.

From the article, it says, advisors tried to break his habit, but Trump either didn't understand or didn't care. In Trump's second term, his advisors have given up trying to restrict his phone use. He calls people non-stop. Trump's campaign advisor, Chris LaCivita, said in an interview with Politico during the Republican National Convention last year, I don't worry about it because what are you going to do?

Take his phone? Change his phone number? Tell him he can't make phone calls? Yeah. It's like, yeah, yes to all of those things. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Correct. It's, it's, it just sounds like people who, you know, are like scared of their kid being like, I don't know, what am I going to do? Take away his phone.

Trump, Trump went, when people were like, this is a major security risk. Uh, he'd say, it's not true. My phone is the best on the market. It was just like a iPhone that he has. And he'd be like, I paid the most for the iPhone. That ain't even a pro. That's the regular iPhone. The best on the market, they said.

Why is your screen cracked? Yeah. Damn. Is that why your thumbs are all cut up and shit? I like to swipe to text. It does a hell of a job on my fingertips. The first time Trump's team truly understood, also from this article about the history of his private line, the first time they understood he would have a different relationship with

his cell phone than did presidents past was election night 2016, the eve of his improbable victory. He was answering every phone call the outside advisor marveled to us nearly a decade later, noting that none of the numbers was in Trump's contacts. He just answers the phone. He doesn't want to miss phone calls. He's just stray numbers that aren't contacts. There's an anecdote in there where the Dilbert guy is like, I just got a random phone call from Florida and he called me, left a voicemail. Yo, didn't that guy die?

He's, I think think on his way out. He has terminal cancer? He has the same thing Biden has. Oh, really? I think that's why Trump was calling him actually was to be like, hey, anything I can do for you. But then he called it, he's like, I can't believe that shit just happened.

That's a Trump voicemail. Then two hours Trump called him back. He was like, wait, aren't you like busy? But he just- Yeah, oh yeah. No, he's probably like, no, I'm good. I'm good. Why, you busy?

Do you need me to call you back? I'll call you back in like an hour. He's just spending his whole day talking on the phone like a fucking teenage girl in 1992. Yeah. Like that's what he does. One of the numbers he's calling the Corey hotline. I don't think that you should drag

teenage girls into this because. No, they were, I mean, they were doing important work on their phones. It's very, it's very fun to imagine that he's so, not to imagine, but to know that he's so insecure. Oh yeah. And so badly needs attention all of the time that he picks up strangers' phone calls.

Like I bet you if like you called him like old school 90s style to change his long distance service, I bet you he would be on the phone with you for like 10 days. Yeah, no, he's just like an unscheduled call that lasts over five minutes is a shocking luxury for all but the most retired person. Like an unscheduled call from somebody.

Oh, it's so good to hear from you. Like, yeah, middle of the day on a work day. And he's just sitting there for hours. Just being like, yeah, what's good. Yeah. No, I know you're mean to me usually in print. Here, here's some cool stuff I'm up to. Oh me, nothing right now, just hanging out.

Also, I love that he didn't actually know that that person had been mean to him. Someone had to like inform him. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like that's so funny. Someone's like, oh, actually you're supposed to not like this person.

And even then it doesn't matter to him because as long as in the moment you're in his face and you're not talking cash shit to his face, he's like, and I love this person. Brad is giving me attention right now and asking me a question. There's almost no, there's like so many pictures of him on his phone in this article, like, which he's just like constantly on his phone or like texting someone or there's almost no chance that he's not talking to like crypto scammers. He looks like such a dickhead. Yeah.

On these like in these pictures like he's like, hello, like doing the like, kind of like I'm a little bit nearsighted. So I got to really put my phone far to start typing some shit. Oh boy. Well, a dumb smile. I think it's like y'all if any of y'all can figure out how to get this number, please let us know. Yeah. Please let us know. I'm, I could do it. I don't know who I'll do an impression of, but I will try and talk to him and get

him to believe he's talking to somebody else. The Australian president. We'll just have to learn the Australian president's name, but you got to go to Australia. All right, president Trump. It's me, president Australia. Things down under my name me, President Australia. How are things down under? My name is Melbourne, Australia.

I'm the president. It's me, Crocodile Dundee. Good to see you. Good to hear from you, Crocodile. Crocodile, always been a big fan of your work. Truly the gen-Z prank phone call artists of TikTok and YouTube are falling down at the job that they haven't been able to get his ass on. Like we need to get like, yeah, like, like somewhat like James Adomian to pretend he's Elon Musk and talk to him for like 75 hours and just get some weird shit out of him.

I would just pretend to be his daughter and have phone sex with him. Oh, gosh. And then I would record it and release it. Yeah, and people would be not shocked. I'd be like, hey, dad, it's Ivanka. Hold on, let me close the door. Just thinking about the way you're ready. You're ready?

You're ready, rotting skin falls off your face and it just got me really hot. I feel like, yeah, you could, you could just say you're some random, you're like, I'm a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader and I think you're swell. Go on. Yes. Send me a picture of you right now. You just Google and send it'll, it'll be the easiest. It got Getty images, watermarks all over it.

He's like, wow. Yeah, exactly. I'm a lucky guy. The way your ample body is sliding off your skeleton, like slow roasted pork. That's what I'm saying. I just do it in my voice. He's like, go on.

Go on. Oh, baby. This guy wants to fuck me, it sounds like. Baby, that meat is looser than pulled pork. Yeah, I feel like a Baby, that meat is looser than pulled pork. Yeah. I feel like a dumb prank phone call like that, they would overreact and then somebody will prank call the president, get his ass really good and they'll be charged with- Treason or something.

Treason and they'll be hung. ... put to death. Yeah. Hanged, rather? Right? Hanged. Why is that? They'll be hung is a description of them having.

And they'll be packing downstairs. What do you mean? What does one have to do with the other? I don't know. This is how the term works. Oh, will they be executed? No, no, that's what I meant. I just meant whoever's doing it, they'll be hung.

They'll definitely be hung. You can tell. All right. In continuing on our trend of old person news and yesterday's trend of drug news, we got some of the most recent news. We've got some of the most recent news. We've got some of the most recent news. We've got some of the most recent news.

We've got some of the most recent news. We've got some of the most recent news. We've got some of the most recent news. We've got some of the most recent news. We've got some of the most recent news. In continuing on our trend of old person news, and yesterday's trend of drug news, we got some news about the elderly getting on board with weed. Dude, the boomers are hitting the bong hard. Do you think they're still smoking bongs? I hope so. I don't think so. There's nothing funnier than a tiny old person hitting a giant bong. Yeah.

And like, and then like, g-ing that thing up. Just like, Krrrrr. Yeah. No cough, no nothing. No chest convulsion, just straight. Ooh. Oh, I like this one.

I like this one. This is a little, this is a little peppery than the other one. Well, I mean, you can taste the tannins. Oh, look at the tannins, wow. The turpeys. Tannins, tannins. But yeah, it sounds like the 65 and older crowd

have shed all the... Oh, there's wine, right? Yeah, turpeys, turps, dude, turps, turps, turps. Look at the legs on that. Yeah, the reefer madness propaganda brain is withering away and people are now embracing the weed. The stigma is not as much of a thing as it used to be with the 65 and older crowd. And obviously like the expansion of like legal and legal recreational and medical medicinal

cannabis has opened the door for holdouts. Like my high school teacher, my high school history teacher who inspired me to even be interested in history as like a major, all the time we would talk about like, like we would talk about weed is like, hey, guys, really should really stop talking about that. I know you're joking to kind of get me riled up. But like, it's illegal or whatever. Like, would you ever smoke weed, sir? And he

would always say, I only don't smoke it because it is illegal. And I'm a law abiding citizen. But if it was legal, I would do it and we're Like oh we're gonna smoke with you when it's legal. He's like instance. I'm drunk right now. Yeah My high school history teacher shout out to high school history teacher who was secretly dipping all class or like Secretly, but like he just had a little one in and was taking sips Soda that you can in no way do But he just had a little one in and was taking sips of his soda that- You can in no way do dip-

Secretly? In a clandestine manner. No, no. It is impossible. Everybody was onto him. He was always taking little sips that sounded like, yeah. It was like, oh, I was shitting myself in public, but no one knew. It's like, no, we all knew.

Your pants fell down because it was so heavy. But he actually gave me early weed insight. Also, he was like, the only reason weeds illegal is because it's so easy to grow at home, like, and so difficult to tax. Like you can't make Budweiser worth a shit in your bathtub, but you buy a grow light, you can grow some pretty great weed. And nobody's going to know about it. That's a fucking hero right there. I know.

Yeah, that's- Teaching at a fucking Catholic high school in Kentucky was just being like, yeah, man, so here's what it is, dude. They know. That's like, I'm sure there's a tradition of knowing what the government will let you make on your own and won't because of how companies can profit. I'm sure for that, it's like moonshine is more like the local thing than like weed, maybe on the West Coast. But anyway, there's been a 46% uptick in consumption among seniors.

Whoa, man. This like Journal of American Medicine study from 2021 to 2023. medicine study from 2021 to 2023. And now like from when they were asking in 2023, 7% of adults 65 and older said they'd used cannabis in the past month. Yeah, boy. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I think like through I think, you know, it's the the pandemic lockdowns. And I think acceptance around using it for certain chronic illnesses or pain management is definitely adding to the usage. And I think acceptance around using it for certain chronic illnesses or pain management is definitely adding to the usage.

And I've also noticed a more of like a who gives a fuck kind of attitude from that generation recently. At least the ones around me are more like way different than what I remember as a kid or they're like so buttoned up and like, yeah, don't give a fuck. I'm getting high now. I don't have anything to do. To piggyback off of that, I think I totally agree that it's not giving a fuck. And I think actually, I'll take it further.

It's because they're like, well, we have no future because the next couple of years that we have or whatever are under this administration, everything's getting cut. America's falling apart. They're like, you know what? I might get into heroin tomorrow. I don't give a fuck. Like, where do I sign up? That means they were getting nihilistic under Biden during this.

That's what I'm saying. I mean, they're starting up there. Who gives a fuck muscles on climate change and, you know, Gaza and all that stuff. So now we throw. I can't be fucking arsed, as they say. I've seen more than like also also personally a few examples of friends are getting their parents to try it for pain management. A friend of mine's dad who was taking all kinds of

opioids for hip and knee replacement surgeries, was just so zonked out all the time and was resisting cannabis because they had this very like boomer idea. Like if I, if I ingest it, I might turn into a black jazz pianist or something. And I don't want that to happen. So I don't know if I should take this edible. My children are not ready for me to become Miles Davis. He's going to call me Cheech and Chong.

Yeah, exactly. I'm going to be so embarrassed. They're going to call me John Coltrane or something. Oh, my God. Since they've crossed that bridge, like they're fully like so they're like, I can't believe I didn't do this. Like, I feel so much like it like clearheaded because I'm not so fucking wasted from like traditional, like pharmaceutical pain medicines.

Not to say this works for everyone, but like anecdotally that that's been the, the one I've seen happen a lot common where it's like, they've always got this back pain, they hate taking pills for it. And now they just like take their little vape and now they're great or an edible or something. Yeah. So it's, it's not a surprise when compared with the opioids that yeah, have been legally sold to people for the past couple

decades, yeah, massive improvement, guys. Yeah. Please do that. Also, side note, if you're a grownup who smokes with younger people. Is this a podcast for 13-year-olds? Okay, but if you're a grownup. Oh my God. Why do I sound like that?

Also, God damn it? I don't even talk I've been really valley sounding this whole episode and I'm like I apologize to the world I don't know what happened. You are you are you are a valley by way of Odessa Yeah, never lived in the valley. What is this accent? It is horrible. Please leave please leave my mouth Yeah, I just wanted to say that if you're an older person smoking weed with younger people, you're cool as hell. If you're an older person drinking with younger people, that is not cool.

That's bad for some reason. You're a monster and you need to leave. Although I don't know, I got a family friend who's older, like they're like, oh, you smoking. I'm like, yeah, they're like, I've been doing that, too. And I'm like, bro, you you're not ready for this shit. And they're like, oh, they're like, I go to the store. I go to the store and I'm like, all right, this motherfucker turned into a scarecrow and like at this family party and they're like, what are you doing?

Hi. A hit. And they were way too much. scarecrow and like at this family party and Hit Scarecrow just physically there as a presence but not Absolute scarecrow. Oh, yeah It's what it was like to get high with me back when I got high Well, at least they weren't like you hate me hate me? They were just like, I didn't say that out loud. Jack, I love you, but you do look like you would be absolutely not fun high. To get high with?

No, I was a nightmare. I hated myself. I was like, oh God. Yeah, no, I totally for some reason feel that from you. I don't know what that means. It must be good. I think it's a good, it reflects well on my personality. I think so.

It's my general, you know, chillness and how fun I am to be around. It means you're very chill now. We like you like this. Exactly. It means that this is the real Jack. You know what I'm saying? It's like I'm high in my regular life, man. I can't be double high. Yeah, you're fricking high off of your beautiful family and cool job. And like, why would you even need anything else? And cool shoes.

Thank you so much. And this is for 13 year olds out there. You don't need anything else. When you're grown up, you get to pick your own clothes and you can buy them, whichever ones you wanna buy. Hey guys, get ready with me. So first of all, my mom let me get this skirt from The Limited and it was with my birthday money. So, um, okay second off

I wanted to get the stuff from what seal but I could not afford it So I got it from my best friend Brittany and I'm borrowing it for this outfit Brittany my god so many syllables in Brittany Brittany Brittany better Brittany Brittany Brittany. Brittany. Brittany. Brittany.

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And we're back. We're back. And the AI train just keeps a rolling. Choo-choo. And over here we're excited. What if we just like one day just went fully like an AI is good. AI is awesome. You start noticing little like glitches in our voices.

Listeners know it's because I'm trying to rebuild a burnt down home. If you see me starting to be like, I can't even, I'm so sick. I mean. I mean, so this is. My soul leaves my body. This is kind of an attempt to do that from a famous creative, Natasha Leoni, who, you know, from things like Poker Face and-

Russian Doll, whatever you want. Russian Doll, American Pie, like all the way back. But I'm a cheerleader. Yeah, but I'm a cheerleader. Yes. Very, very good. Whatever happened to Kip Perdue? Who?

Wasn't that, wasn't that? Never mind, go on, sorry, didn't mean to. Anyways, she is the co-founder of Asteria, an AI production studio that claims to be an artist-led, ethical AI film and animation studio. They are launching with a movie called Uncanny Valley that will be made by combining AI tools with traditional filmmaking techniques. Describes itself as an art, the production company describes itself as an artist led

ethical AI film and animation studio. The news has obviously sparked a backlash, prompting her to clarify that the movie won't omit any department heads or production designers or cinematographers. The AI is more like a green screen or something like that. Wow. The way that's written, it's like they write the way she talks. Yeah. It's like a green screen or something like that. Oh, okay. Yeah, That's not too bad.

It's like, this is a weird move for an actor. Yeah. Well, especially when you have people like Joseph Gordon-Levitt who are like, this is going to take away the incentive for people to even create or want to strive for something if we, if AI takes all over all this shit. Yeah. They claim that it's like trained on only what I like. Licensed licensed content. However, when you ask other companies like how, how you why, why don't you just

like use licensed content? They're like, that would be impossible. Like none of this is possible with just licensed content. So remains to be seen how that's actually working out because it's all very it's this it but that's what the chat Jeep the open AP open AI lady said a few years ago when they were talking about the like it's actually through Like license like agreements that we have with people and then it came out that it wasn't it was just yeah I was on there loved to say this shit's license Should be noted a stereo was founded by Leone and her boyfriend

Bryn Mooser. What? Yeah, that's right. What's that? Bryn Mooser. B-R-Y-N Mooser. There's no, like, I think maybe it's Bryn, like, I don't know. Ah, no, that's Bryn.

Sorry. That's a, that's a Mooser if I've ever seen one. Uh, M-O-O-S-E-R who is a tech bro whose mentors include Bob Iger and Elon Musk. So in case you were wondering where this idea came from, and who was telling her like, this is fine, what are you talking about? Oh my God, they're being so weird. Natasha, run.

Natasha, run. They're running an op-ed. Although I don't know, maybe you do believe this, but when this guy, I like how this dude was described as a quote serial entrepreneur I know that I'm already to me like a thing they say is good Like that's that's what you want people to introduce you as somebody Who doesn't do was just like we'll fucking try and make anything fucking happen by any means necessary I'll get this lady. I fucking love her. Okay, I

make anything fucking happen by any means necessary. I'll even tell this lady, I fucking love her. Okay, I'll give a fuck. Who just tell me who the best person to have on our side is. Who is it? I'll make it happen. Yeah, AI. For sheer tyranny of will. Going to AI, AI, who is the best celebrity actress I could

use to help Trojan horse the idea of an AI company in Hollywood being a good thing? Hey, Natasha Lyon. Also, the company describing itself as being an ethical AI film in the animation studio, like there's no such thing as ethical AI. Whatever. Yeah. The based on the environmental impact alone, but on then also everything else,

but like no such thing. That's why everything they say is bullshit. You didn't train it on licensed material. This shit isn't ethical. You're just saying all the things to try and neutralize those first instincts people have when they hear about AI in a space anywhere, because people are gonna be like, oh, that's just gonna probably,

you're gonna be firing human beings. And they go, no, we didn't even get rid of any department heads, nothing like that. And it's not even trained off other people's copyrighted materials. And it's not even trained off other people's copyrighted materials. And it's also like ethical and it's, it's cruelty free and organic. Okay. Non-GMO.

Okay. Corporations can't say ethical if it's not ethical, you guys, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. No, it's the opposite. They would never say ethical if it was actually ethical. They would only do something ethical by accident. If it's horribly unethical. Yeah. One of the big, so the controversial people are like, this is bullshit. And then

Natasha Leoni, who was neighbors with David Lynch was like, I actually talked to David Lynch and he signed off on this project. You motherfucker. He said, I asked him, Hey, David, what do you think of AI? And he said, Natasha, look over there. This is a pencil, okay? Everyone has access to a pencil. And likewise, everyone with a phone will be using AI

if they aren't already. It's how you use the pencil, you see? And that may be true. What does he mean? Yeah. You just stab your teacher in the eye. Everybody's going to use, be using AI, which may be true, but it doesn't mean that like he's thought through the ethical implications of its use or that's everybody's like that he's fully up on like what the environmental impact.

I'm sorry. I don't know if David Lynch was in the right state to really be fully answering the question about the future of AI. Also, this is just her work. Somebody was like, Natasha Leone the next time, she's asked about AI and just showed the poster for Weekend at Bernie's. Because they were like, kind of weird to be- Yeah, using David Lynch as your shield here. A beloved dead filmmaker as your puppet for saying that this is cool. Yeah, we can't ask him to clarify what he meant.

It's kind of perfect, you know, to put words in a dead person's mouth like that. Yeah. Because you have enough plausible denial that, well, first of all, I'm his neighbor. We were neighbors, so of course I was talking to him. You're talking about my neighbor right now. That's my neighbor, David Lynch. You're talking about, he said it was okay. It's a pencil.

It's a pencil. Okay. Very cool pencil that will burn the earth down. But people within Hollywood are saying that AI is already being made or being used to make a lot of content. It's just, they're not admitting it. It's like a thing where, for instance, a costume designer will get a job

and they'll have to turn something around really quickly. They'll have the AI generate the idea for them. Then instead of turning that in, they will then hire an artist to draw the thing, the AI generated, and then be like, voila, original creation. Drawing. Original human idea drawing. Original human drawing.

And then they're like, oh, but isn't that worse? And they're like, yeah, but nobody notices. Right. That's just what is happening like across the board, I feel like. Well, that and like that they are using NDAs for people when they are using AI. Yeah. I'll fucking tell anybody we use AI. I'm gonna fuck you up because we can't have the unions coming at us. It's so fucking underhanded.

I'm not surprised that it's already creeping in more and more and more. Just not in a fucking hooray type of way. Yeah. This one, a storyboard artist, storyboard, um, storyboard artist said, quote, and if your back's against the wall, it's tempting, even if the result is of dubious quality and dubious ethical makeup. And I feel like this is exactly what. Everything is going to like, all jobs are just going to be people using AI to create C plus

work and there's just no penalty for turning in C plus work. And so it's just like, everything's going to get shittier in a way that will be. I mean, everything already has gotten shittier, you know? And, like, nothing happened. So once we let them get away with that, and now that you can just, like, turn it over to a fucking automated C-plus machine, like, you're... We're just gonna see everything turned to shit.

And we're not really gonna be able to, like, describe what's happening. It's the idea of, like, putting a band-aid on the problem, but not treating the problem itself. Right. Because the problem is everyone's overworked and underwhelmed and there's deadlines. And because of capitalism, and we just have to churn out shit that AI generates to meet the deadline or whatever, and rather than like, oh, let's, let's, I don't know, dismantle capitalism. So we're not all like killing ourselves trying to get work done.

That doesn't even fucking need to be done in the first place. We've just invented all of these whatever fucking arbitrary, totally fabricated assignments and deadlines and all that. But, Kailin, I just saw what the Hulk v Thanos fist fight should have, how it should have ended up because someone made that on V03. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what's so funny to me. Hollywood should have been the first fucking line of defense against this shit,

to be like, this is going to fucking kill us further. Well, they have been in all the movies that are like, Hey, I'm written by normal people, studio heads, you know what I mean? Where they're like, again, I'm like, I'm like, why aren't why aren't we remembering the Matrix, Terminator, all the movies where AI is the villain? AI. AI.

AI. But I think, you know, cause like, we talked on Trends yesterday about this commercial that was made fully with AI, and again, it looks like shit, but you can, based on what AI video looked like a year ago, like, and if this is where we're at now, I can't imagine in another year from now what it's gonna look like.

But that's a direct threat to the $250 billion a year TV ad industry. Like if people can just start cooking up shit like this, and they're not even seeing that part of it. They're like, well, we can get away with underpaying people or using less people we have to pay by using AI without realizing that the proliferation of it is creating an existential threat to everything you do because

now anyone can shit out this crap. But go ahead. I guess you'll just have to find out as you fuck around. Nah, it never works that way. Yeah. Nah, we fuck around and then it just keeps getting better. So yeah. No, soon we're all going to be just like working at those, whatever fucking

cooling data centers and like, I don't know, throwing buckets of water on the shit that needs to be cooled off. I'm drinking a potable lot of fresh water. Right. Yeah. And that'll be all of our jobs. Stealing sips before we dump the bucket. Is that what you want AI users? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that is a dystopia. It's like, you know, if you work at the data center cooling rooms, you actually get to sip the water that you throw on the computers. You get to steal sips all day. That is, is that how they're getting water? Unlimited sips? Unlimited sips and unlimited days off.

Whoa. You're going to love it here. But they don't pay me. It's the sips. They pay me in sips. That's what it that's what our future is. Yeah, I know. It does feel like that. Like, anyways, good time. Yeah, it's gonna be good. We're gonna figure it out. We're gonna figure it out. All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles.

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