The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 391 (Best of 7/21/25-7/25/25 )

Episode Date: July 27, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:00 secret life of abuse. But in 2014, the youngest escaped. Listen to The Turning River Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The stuff you should know guys have made their own summer playlists of their muscle-listened podcasts on movies. It's me, Josh, and I'd like to welcome you to the Stuff You Should Know Summer Movie playlist. What screams summer more than a nice darkened, air-conditioned theater and a great movie
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Starting point is 00:01:51 I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robay, and this is Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts, where we dive into the stories that shape us on the page and off. Each week I'm joined by authors, celebs, book talk stars, and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry, and add way too many books to your TBR pile.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of The Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Without further ado, here is the weekly Zeitgeist. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious comedian,
Starting point is 00:02:54 an actor who I don't think we've mentioned before, but you can see him in the classic insider trading, Brian's Hat courtroom sketch from I think you should leave, which is one of the great sketches of all time. You can also see him performing stand up on stages and televisions across this land. He's the host of the wonderful podcast, Podcast But Outside. It's Andrew Mashaw.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Andrew. Hello. Thank you for such a warm introduction. And that's all I have to say. Thank you guys for having me. This was really so fun. I really had a blast. Great to have you here, Andrew. Where can people find you?
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yeah. Yeah, I know you guys. I know you're busy, so just get on out of here. Yeah, I've got stuff going on. Thanks for having me. I'm always happy to be here. It's always so fun. Excited for the episode.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Sorry about the mold. I also have one of those Ouala cups, but mine is not taken over by the forces that you are now allied with. This is the problem is I went from only having a couple cups to having a ton of people donating drinking cups to me in the last few months. What does that mean? After the fire, because I lost everything in the fire. You lost everything in the fire. You lost everything in the fire?
Starting point is 00:04:06 Oh my gosh. I didn't realize that. I'm sorry to hear that. It's all right. Jack's having a harder time dealing with it than I am. It's been really hard for me. Cause he sees all the sympathy and you kind of are like cupless
Starting point is 00:04:16 and you don't really. He gets like all these cups and he talks about it all the time too. Like he's like, so it's just like, there is emotional labor. I'm not gonna say there's not. Like, really.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Like, really. The number of cups? The number of cups? It's fucked up. It's just funny, like, people donate shit to you and they'll be like, hey, I'm bringing up some stuff, like, over, and it would always be, like, a shopping bag from an event, a reusable shopping bag from an event
Starting point is 00:04:44 that was, like, the vessel. And it was, it was like, like, and then it would be a drinking cup, like a reusable drinking cup from that event. And then like a spatula or like Tom likes a kitchen thing. And I'm like, all right. But the cups you're like, like six drinking cups right now. You're like, this is all the stuff I'm glad burned up. I'm like, this is a shit. I have too much of.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Everybody has too many of around the house. Yeah. Hey, do you need like a reusable tote from an event that you forgot you went to three years ago? I'm like, yeah, I guess. We have a closet that's just those. Could you actually come pick it up? And yeah, and as repayment, you get to keep them.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Take whatever you want, man. Take them all. What is something from your search history? Well, as I always do, I'm bringing you something from our latest episode project and my search history is Dear Abby and Landers, Urban Legends. So do you guys know much about Dear Abby and Ann Landers, the two most popular advice columnists in American history? Just that they were very popular advice columnists. I do not know. I'm immediately fascinated
Starting point is 00:05:53 to find out what the process was like behind the scenes of that. Was it ever contentious that one of them existed at all? Or is that my misremembering thing? I feel like there's something with like, yeah. Here's what I'll tell you. Okay. Anne Landers and Dear Abby were identical twins. That. What?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Yeah, fucking identical twins. Dressed the same. No. Yes, yes. Dressed the same. Get the fuck out of here. Literally slept in the same bed in each other's arms until the day that they were married in a double wedding in the same bed in each other's arms until the day that they were married in a double wedding in the same dress. And then they both became advice columnists and got this horrible rift between them. And then we're battling to be America's top advice columnist for many, many, many, many years.
Starting point is 00:06:40 What the fuck? I know! I know! I didn't know this. Miles's face right now. I was like, I remembered them. I just knew there was something about their identity. I know. And so... I like that yours, the version that you got,
Starting point is 00:06:56 was somebody who doesn't believe in twins. They don't exist, dude. No, that's the same person. No way, dude. They's like, no, that's the same person. No way, dude. No way. They're wearing the same thing. That's the Aylenders dressed as Dear Abby, dude. They're moving back and forth really quick. That's the only explanation. Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Isn't that straight? Yeah. So I was like, as soon as I heard that, I was like, okay, we need to dig into this. But they were, since our show is a lot about urban legends, they were a big source of urban legends because people would write in saying, this happened to my friend. She'd print it. It would, because they had, I mean, at their peaks, they had a hot, like around a hundred million readers.
Starting point is 00:07:32 So this is like, these people are like those kinds of invisible architects of culture that you just kind of dismiss, but they're actually like leading opinion. And they did a lot of things that were like pretty okay. You know, they were like slightly, they've been called like slightly left of center. So slowly America was able to kind of change a lot. That's actually a lot better than it could have been.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I know, and it's not what I expected either. She's like, I will not reprint the N word in my columns. You're like, oh. Slightly left of center. Wow, wow, great, great. There's like a Ron Howard film about them refusing to do that, where like they're the heroes. You better print it, Anne! I will not. I will not. Print it now! For some reason, the Lockhorns are characters in it. I always associate them with like being back where the comics were.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's just so wild that there was this period of time when there were seven TV shows on and everybody watched them and nobody was paying attention to how they got. They were made by three white guys and the friends that they had from college. It was just like, yeah, Ann Landers and Dear Abby were just people who had this market corner. Nobody was like, it wasn't this hyper competitive thing where there were like two million people all trying to give advice or have advice podcasts. It
Starting point is 00:09:03 was just like the two people who thought to do that and had like massive influence and nobody was even like paying attention to it. It was just like, yeah, that's because that's what's there. What a weird period. Really odd. I know. I know. Now we have Reddit and Quora so you can kind of add, you can like crowdsource all your
Starting point is 00:09:22 advice. But back then it was like, yeah, just like these two twins out there dictating culture. And it's, it's, it's a very fun story. And they were very flamboyant. Like they both were, wore skunk coats to their first day of college. Like the same outfit showed up, you know, they were just very bizarre. So it's, it's a good, it's a good twin, twin tail. tail. And yeah, you guys can get that in like three or four weeks. Okay. I'm just like blown away because as someone who like knows the Adam
Starting point is 00:09:54 Sandler's Hanukkah song by memory, I'm like, that's right. We got Anne Landers and her sister, dear Abby, and then Harrison Ford's a quarter Jewish not too shabby I'm like fuck the answer was right in front of me the whole time. They were sisters If I had tried to write that song I would have just like the song would have devolved into me talking about how weird it was that they were identical twins Who slept in the same bed? Did you know they were kind of deranged same bed in each other's arms. And her sister, dear Abby.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Did you know they were deranged, disillusioned, identical twins, and then had a terrible falling out and they wore. Yeah. Did they ever make up or do we have to check in with the- Just check in. We'll check in to find out how things ended. I'm trying to, there's a lot of lore,
Starting point is 00:10:38 a lot of self lore that's created, so I'm trying to pick it apart. So yeah. Okay. Tune back in in a little bit here. We will. We will. So yeah. Okay. Tune back in a little bit here. We will, we will. Come to my house. Just take my herbs.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Okay. You hear that DEA? She's got herb at the house. I got hella herbs at my house. You got hella herbs. Okay. Okay. Take my herbs.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I'm taking them. Are you just, how, how many acres are we talking here? I, I. How many hectares actually? Okay. Specifically. This is why my underrated is grow your own food. How many acres are we talking here? How many hectares actually specifically? This is why my underrated is grow your own food. Pivot. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Boom. Why? Boom, right into the underrated. Grow your own fucking food. Why do we have lawns? What are we doing? Oh my God. All you need is sun and soil.
Starting point is 00:11:22 We have lawns to grow one very specific type of grass that doesn't naturally occur and needs to Ruin the environment to be kept alive. No further answers your honor. Yeah. Well, I mean that's a good argument, but That is Very difficult to argue that's a good point. Oh my God, it is so easy. I have like a, I've got like an eight foot patio. Yeah. And it gets all the sun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And all you need is just sun and soil and all this time, okay, all this time, gentlemen, I have thought that I'm a killer of plants because I kill everything. I have Alicia Garza's snake plant and it's dying. It was dying, but now I'm saving it. I'm saving it, Alicia. You're talking about Black Lives Matter, Alicia Garza?
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah, she left it with her producer, Phil, and he gave it to me and I almost killed it. You inherited the famous BLM Alicia Garza snake plant. She left it with her producer Phil and he gave it to me and I Famous BLM Alicia Garza snake plant. Wait Damn yeah And for all of you out there who do not have a green thumb, you've got like a yellow purple red thumb Whatever fans. Yep purple and gold. Yeah
Starting point is 00:13:01 Death thumb. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah like me you can do this. You can grow tomatoes. You can grow lettuce you can grow herbs I'm ready. Actually, I'm gonna I I'm going to hit you up about that because I. You can do it. My old crib, I had a huge rosemary bush that I have to do anything about. It just grew. So I always have rosemary bush. It's down here. Hey, let them know. Hey, I got rid of it for summer, but it's coming back this fall. It's growing in. for summer, but it's coming back this fall.
Starting point is 00:13:24 It's growing in faith. But I've always wanted to have chives. I love chives and green onions and shit like that. And also onion gang. OK, I'm going to talk. We'll talk. We'll talk. I was exactly. Let me know what I need to. I'm trying to do this. I'm trying to do this.
Starting point is 00:13:39 This is what I learned. You just don't buy your soil at Home Depot and loves. Don't buy soil at the dealers from a neighbor Yes, steal it from it. No get it from the local nursery your mom and pop nurseries get the good soil You water it and that's all you have to do and you have so many herbs All right. Yeah, sir Just plant the butts of oh, I thought she didn't say cigarettes agree In half and put it in the ground and have your own tomatoes. I just, we were just at, like,
Starting point is 00:14:12 my kids were over at the house of like, the parents that make you feel bad about how good they're, like they just like created a little garden because their kids became interested in gardening. And I will say, people talk about Minecraft proving that the children crave the mines. I think the children also crave the fields because- The fields. Oh my God, my daughter loves it. Yeah, the level that my kids were obsessed with just asking questions about this herb garden. And like they had a little, like a couple stocks of corn and, uh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Thick green onions miles. I saw these green onions. I thought I was like, Ooh, dude, my daughter dumps a gallon of water in there and bubble solution. Still. Sorry. It's going to grow bubbles. Much parsley. Yeah love so much parsley.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Yeah, that's amazing. What is, what's something Siri that you think is underrated? Okay, overrated cold pizza. I mean, we're just talking about pizza anyway, so like. Right. Okay. I just, I hate cold pizza. I hate it a lot. You can't eat cold pizza like, is it true? It's repulsive to you.
Starting point is 00:15:27 It's not that I, well, it's both that I choose to not eat it, like I have no desire, and also I'm pretty sure at this point I couldn't. Like if, like it is disgusting enough to me as like a texture, a temperature, a flavor experience that if I were to take a bite of cold pizza, I would really have to fight vomiting as I swallow it. It's so fucking funny. I would have to actively fight vomiting.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Kind of with you. We've gotten so good at, like there's so many good options for reheating now with like air fryers or just like using a pan that like, why, why ever do cold pizza? Yeah. I mean, I get into an argument about this quite often because so many people really like cold pizza. Like they're like, well, it's like a separate experience that stands alone to have it when it's cold. And I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:16:18 I respect that you feel that way. Right, right, right. You're allowed to have that feeling. But respect that I think you're disgusting. I am also allowed to feel that you feel that way. Right, right, right. You're allowed to have that feeling. But respect that. I think you're disgusting. I'm also allowed to feel that you're mentally ill. Right, right. For that being your preference. It is a little bit like people being like,
Starting point is 00:16:32 I really like cold French fries. Like, really? That's only high people say that. Do high people say they like cold French fries? I used to eat cold ass French fries because I would be so high and it would be like, oh, that's right. I got those fries from earlier. And then you're just like, my bar is so low. So high.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I'm a stoner, but I've never been so high that I wanted to eat food served at the incorrect temperature on purpose. Oh, I'm a piece. I'm a vile scumbag when it comes to like what I'll eat. Just high. Like the bar goes subterranean. The one cold food that I really ride for is cold chicken of any sort, cold like fried chicken, cold wings. I really like cold wings. Yeah, I'll even have cold wings. Okay, I got an underrated now. Okay, because I can only think of things in terms of food
Starting point is 00:17:21 in this moment. So my underrated is salted black licorice. Very good. I love salted licorice. There's a specific brand that I think it's finished and I order it online because it's impossible to find anywhere else. It has like a witch on the bag. It's just an illustration of a witch flying through the sky. I cannot hang with black lic black liquor. Jungle Vrol. Was it called Jungle Vrol? No that's a different one that's actually. It's called Hex Shale. Oh heck yeah. H-E-K-S-H-E-Y-L. Okay. Wait is salted black licorice just better? I hate the
Starting point is 00:18:01 flavor that anise flavor. You will not like this. OK, I was like, maybe it's the salt. Like it's black licorice. It's incredibly salty. And it also, if you look at the ingredients, like it has like literal ammonia in it. Like it's because it's from Europe. They have different like preservatives that they use over there. So the preservative used in this particular licorice like is ammonia-based, which just makes it even more addictive.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Because it has this weird, like, in your mouth. Yeah, yeah. It does feel like, because I got on a salty licorice kick for a while, and it hasn't gotten that last, because in the United States, like, all the best scientists are going into making food, like, addictive and perpetually addictive so that, like, you can be on your 100th skittle and be like, man, these are actually getting better as you go.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yeah. Whereas, like, salty licorice, I feel like when I was on a real salted licorice kick like I Like the eighth piece I was like I need to stop This is like bad for serving my mouth. I think I started tasting the ammonia Yeah, I kind of like that. So I I would never start like I have to I have to stop myself with this Yeah, I'm a cure kind. It. The flavor is pretty strong and overwhelming. Also, they're not hard. They're a unique delivery format because it looks like a sour straw or something, like
Starting point is 00:19:38 a little chunk of a sour straw, like a segment. It has a filling. So there's a tube that's the licorice part and then the inside has a tube that's like the licorice part. And then the inside has this filling that's also more licorice, but that's like really like kind of ammonia part. So you have two different textures and I'm getting way too into this. So I have a way that I,
Starting point is 00:19:55 like I do with all foods, like snack foods, I have a very specific way I eat it. It's like, I like have the, I put the piece of my mouth and then it's like a 15 minute process for one piece of candy where I like have I put the piece of my mouth and then it's like a 15 minute process for one piece of candy where I like Break it down in my mouth It a certain way Obviously, I have some some some conditions
Starting point is 00:20:18 Stuff going on I do mouth ADHD also where like OCD or what I like where I'm always like I have inner mouth ADHD also, or like OCD or whatever, like where I'm always like, I have routines that I do with my gum, where I like flatten it out into a tube, then I roll the tube up, then I press the tube flat, so that it, or press the rolled up thing flat, so it's a pancake shape, roll that, roll the pancake up,
Starting point is 00:20:40 so that it's a flat tube, roll it out, then bring that up so it's like, you know, a roll of tape, press it flat into a pancake and just do that over and over again. I'm sorry I accused you of being high on Molly the last time we were together. Because your jaw, your mouth was going crazy. And if I had known you were just flattening that gum out,
Starting point is 00:20:59 yeah, I wouldn't have made that whole business meeting awkward. Do you ever mold the gum to the roof of your mouth? And like, with gum, it's like, it has to be the right kind of gum where it's firm enough. Then you pull it out and you're like, wow, that's the roof of my mouth. Yeah. It's always bubble gum because bubble gum, that has the thickness that you can really do like a dental impression.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yeah. I'd be like, yeah, that's the roof of my mouth and I'm 40, and I'm doing this in a movie theater Thank you What do we say about chewing gum on mic? I can't stop you motherfucker. I don't I don't hear the sounds I so my other routine is that I take trident already small pieces break them in half So oh my god, no, that's what my mom would that's trauma for me I go through a lot of trident so I need I need this Oh my God, no, that's what my mom did. I would, that's trauma for me.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I go through a lot of Trident, so I need this. When I'd go to church with the family as a kid and like I hated it because it was too long and boring. And I would just continually ask my mom for pieces of gum, but she choose Trident gum, the blue one, and she would tear the piece in half. And I was always like, I was like fucking offended. Like how dare you?
Starting point is 00:22:05 Half a gum, mother. Yeah. I don't do it for anybody else, but when I'm chewing, I break it into half pieces. Yeah, if I ever only have a half piece left, my wife is very angry at me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What a weird person.
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Starting point is 00:23:04 The stuff you should know guys have made their own summer playlists of their must listen podcasts on movies. It's me, Josh. And I'd like to welcome you to the stuff you should know summer movie playlist. What screams summer more than a nice darkened air conditioned theater and a great movie playing right in front of you. Episodes on James Bond, special effects, stunt men and women, disaster films, even movies that change
Starting point is 00:23:22 filmmaking, and many more. Listen to the stuff you should know summer movie playlist on the episode. in front of you. Episodes on James Bond, special effects, stunt men and women, disaster films, even movies that change filmmaking, and many more. Listen to the Stuff You Should Know Summer Movie playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robay, and this is Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers, and more to explore the stories that shape us, on the page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep diving book talk theories, and obsessing over book to screen casts for years. And now I get to talk to the people making the magic.
Starting point is 00:24:15 So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character, or cried at the last chapter, or passed a book to a friend saying, you have to read this. This podcast is for you. Listen to Book March by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. For my heart podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is the turning river road. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to ten girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor? But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt. For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became the prey. Listen to The Turning River Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:25:34 All right, we're back. All right. All right. we're back. All right. Fine. I'll bite. We're back. Fine. I'll bite. What's Jeffrey Epstein? What's all right. Fine. I'll bite.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Who's this Epstein guy? What's the story here? I heard he's dead. So like, why do I even care about that? Even like that big of a factor in life. And Donald Trump both told me he's dead. So like, it doesn't matter. No further questions, dad.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Moving on. Uh, yeah, the story's not going to go away. But New York times was wrong when they were like, this seems like Trump has turned the tide on this. And his face is following. Just shut up over there. What are you saying? Again, you're, they're doing the Caroline Levitt thing of performing for Trump
Starting point is 00:26:27 specifically when they write shit like that, because no one fucking believes it. But Trump will be like, did you see what the New York Times said? Exactly. And then, you know, Maggie Haberman or whatever can, you know, learn some other little nuggets or something. But anyway, just wanted to check in because it's a full court press in terms of trying to create distractions from the Epstein case files, knowledge, how Trump is involved. Just to start Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence and sometimes, well, most of the times Russian asset has really swung for the fences in trying to like activate people's anti-black racism as a distraction. It usually works. Yeah, it does go well. Yeah, I mean, in America, you know what?
Starting point is 00:27:09 If you put that on a menu of just possible ways to divert this energy, I'd be like, yeah, you might have a case here, Tulsi. We'll have the anti-black racism, please. Oh, yes. Okay. Well, why don't we try this one on for size? Barack Obama did treason because he created the Russia hoax on me. Wow. That's like a full entree. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:27:27 Yeah, yeah. This is like a very stupid thing where now she's saying that Trump or the whole Russia hoax was created by Barack Obama to fake that. It doesn't make sense unless you really want to believe that Trump isn't in the Epstein files. I wish I could cover it with a little bit more enthusiasm. Wait, so what does it have to do with Epstein files? They're just saying-
Starting point is 00:27:49 Just a distraction. Because he was like that this is all part of them trying to frame me. It's all of the hopes. They created the files. They're the ones who have always been trying to get me with Russia, Russia, Russia, the laptop from hell. It seems like almost they're preparing for the files to come out so that they can basically be like level they need. They definitely want to set the table for people to be like, like to confirm
Starting point is 00:28:14 some bias and not people be like, wait, what about Trump though? You know what I mean? Like they know, because the way the Republican audience looks at this is this means that Clint, the Clintons and Obamas and Bidens are going down in the Epstein files. That's how it's presented a lot of the time. Because they're like, look at them. They're on the fight.
Starting point is 00:28:34 What does this mean? But the one thing, so they said, they're like, Obama said that the election was hacked, that they hacked the elections. No one ever said the election itself was hacked in 2016. What they're talking about is all the intelligence reporting, journalistic reporting that has been about Russians approaching members of the Trump campaign, the Cambridge Analytica, like psychographic data that was used for Facebook trolls
Starting point is 00:28:59 and the troll farms that exist there, fucking hacking the DNC emails. Like, yeah, that shit happened. But again, that's what people were talking about. So yeah, they're now trying to say Obama needs to go in prison. And Trump even posted like an AI video. I don't know if you saw that, where Trump was sitting across from Obama gets arrested. Right?
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yeah, they're sitting, yeah, they're sitting in the oval and then Trump's like, weee, as he's being handcuffed by sort of non-descript FBI jacket clad people. And they're doing like this weird, like hoax inside a hoax where it's like, they're creating a hoax that didn't exist to say that it was a hoax because they can prove that hoax didn't happen, right? They can prove that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:40 It just seems like they're creating a new hoax to then discredit that hoax to make it seem like everything's new hoax to then discredit that hoax to make it seem like everything's Yeah, because what they're saying they're taking the actual Intel assessment of like quote Russia and Russian and criminal Actors did not impact recent US election results by conduct by a specifically yes by conducting cyber attacks on infrastructure Yeah, we know that But we know that but now from there, we said that. Yep. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Then they use headlines from places like the New York Times were talking about Russian hackers acted to aid Trump in election. Yeah. By releasing like materials that would, you know, be perceived by voters and when one way or the other, that's what they mean. So they're trying to be like, see, they didn't do that yet. They, all these people said that Russia did stuff. Therefore, can we just forget about it?
Starting point is 00:30:30 Please be mad. And the only thing linking these are that they're like happening around the same time, right? The, this and Epstein, like them releasing this, they're not saying anything to do with Epstein in this. No, this is just another thing to put into the information environment to be like, Be mad at Barack Obama. It totally reeks of, because it, yeah, it doesn't make sense as like a refutation
Starting point is 00:30:55 necessarily, unless they're trying to be like, get ready for the time when like the Epstein files are released and his name's in it. And then they can be like, see, but well, they did the Russia hoax. Yeah. So, but otherwise I feel like it's more just Trump being like, I mean, everybody's mad at me about this, but what about that? Like the same thing that like my seven and nine year olds do about each other. Where they're like, I'm like clean up like the toys that are all over the ground.
Starting point is 00:31:23 He didn't even brush his teeth yet. Yeah. It's just like, all right, young Putin, why over the ground. He didn't even brush his teeth yet. Yeah. Okay. All right. Young Putin, why don't you step back with your what about it. It's just like trying to deflect in any way possible when you know that you don't. It's like, bro, you're caught in 4K. Come on. I'm sure that's like with that fake astronomer CEO. No, he's like, and Chris Martin maybe shouldn't have even done that to me. It. Like, no, he's like, and Chris Martin, maybe shouldn't have even like done that to me.
Starting point is 00:31:47 You know, it's like, okay, dude. What's this guy's deal? That was fake. So then moving along, right? Then you have Marjorie Taylor Greene. She, her, she's still hungry for some pedophile elite cabal. She's still, her appetite is, has not been satiated. She's like, quote, if you tell the base of people who support you of deep state,
Starting point is 00:32:08 treasonous crimes, election interference, blackmail and rich and powerful elite evil cabals, then you must take down every enemy of the people. If not, the base will turn and there's no going back. Dangling bits of red meat no longer satisfies. They want the whole steak dinner and will accept nothing else. Dangling bits of red meat no longer satisfied. He's like really a poet, man. They want the whole steak dinner.
Starting point is 00:32:42 It sounds like something James Carver was saying. It did sound Carver was saying. It did sound calmer less. That's like, when you're trying to lure in an alligator, just dangling bits of red meat no longer satisfied. They want the whole steak dinner. He's ghost writing for like other fan politicians. This is, I mean, speaking of MTG, like they have called the House, the House is like shutting
Starting point is 00:33:04 until September to block the Epstein vote. Yeah. They're not, they're not taking a vote before the August recess. No, they're like, bruh, don't even like Mike Johnson was like, he's doing a thing where he's like, well, you know, we, we trust the government at the moment for them, they say they're going to be doing what the right thing is. And I believe that there's no need for congressional intervention at this moment.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Uh, and, and maybe we'll have to revisit that. So he's trying to, he's trying to play both ways. Yeah. But he's trying to act like two, he's like, but you know, we got to do something, we'll do something, but right now I don't think we need to do anything. It's kind of like where he's at with it. And wasn't he originally like wanting to release the files like first round, right? Oh, every one of these people was wanting to.
Starting point is 00:33:45 So it seems like- But I mean, even like, right, like just a week ago or whenever it came out was, and he's still wanting it to be released, like disagreeing with Trump. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. There was a thing where like the vote happened and then a podcast appearance came out where he,
Starting point is 00:33:58 like it seemed like he had just contradicted what the vote was. I don't know when that podcast was recorded, but that headline came from an appearance on a podcast where he said, we should be looking into transparency. It seemed like Trump legit just like, he got everybody worked up about the Epstein stuff and then remembered that he was in there.
Starting point is 00:34:16 And I was like, fuck. And like, literally we have him hiring like hundreds of FBI agents to go and like around the clock search through the files for his name. Like that's on wax. We have that happening. It's a thousand people, wasn't it? A thousand people looking around the clock for his name to flag it.
Starting point is 00:34:41 So, and there's, I don't know what they found but all of a sudden he's like with these files are nothing They're nothing weird. This guy's dead. He's a loser 100,000 at least as I said like around a hundred thousand pages of evidence To go through and there's not any other names. Yeah Find it cuz all it's gonna take is one command F find it. Cause all it's going to take is one, all it's going to take is one tump that's in there that doesn't get caught in the finder. And then people will be like, yo, who's Donald tump?
Starting point is 00:35:12 They're like, oh, fuck about that. He probably also doesn't know about control F and like people are like, ah, this is actually, we can make a lot of money here. Just tell them that we have to look through all these documents. One by one, dude. Can I, can I get overtime for this? Yeah. Yeah money here. Just tell them that we have to look through all these documents. One by one. Can I get overtime for this? Yeah, man. Just fucking do a bad job. Then Caroline Levitt, the Nazi mouthpiece for the White House,
Starting point is 00:35:34 is now just trying to fully deflect. It's not even on Pam Bondi anymore. She's just like, I don't know, why don't you fucking ask fucking Cash Patel? It's kind of her energy right now. You're like, oh, things are going well, aren't they? Here's Caroline Levitt being asked about the press. What about these DFC files? The president has said if the Department of Justice and the FBI want to move forward with releasing any further credible
Starting point is 00:36:04 evidence, they should do so as to why they have or have not or will you should ask the FBI about that. Wow. Wow. Great. Great. Thanks. Just passing the buck. All right, Cash Patel, it's on you. You go. The hot potato right now. Yeah, this is bad. I wonder if like because they're all so they are none of them are real critical thinkers. I like if they all are like, yeah,, Trump isn't in the Epstein files. Subconsciously, and then now they're like, wait, is he? Right now,
Starting point is 00:36:32 behind the scenes they're working it out. They're like, hold on, dude. You think fucking Trump is in the Epstein files? I think he's told people he's in there for some shit that would make him look bad, because they've come out and been like, cause we don't want to release these files that are going to incriminate people who are actually American fucking heroes. But how many of you think are like, bro, he's in that shit. Oh, they have to, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:58 Like, and I feel like you got it in that moment. You can think of better stuff than just being like, I don't want you to ask Cash Mattel, I got to go. And for that, the answer is why don't you ask the FBI maybe? Okay. I mean, Miss, why are you suddenly pretending that Cash Patel's FBI is somehow like some kind of independent body? The whole time before you guys got into office, you talked about I have to clean house to get people who are all going to sing from
Starting point is 00:37:24 the same hymnal at the same time. And now you're like, I don't know, maybe Casper Tull is going to roll. We're going to ask him. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Anyway, uh, good, good strategy. Uh, then let's also check in with Pam Bondi and the DOJ.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Uh, she now has the deputy attorney general, Todd Blanche. He's off to speak with Ghislaine Maxwell for some reason. Oh shit. Todd Blanch is going to speak to Ghislaine Maxwell. One of my favorite tennis matches Blanch versus Maxwell is about to happen. And this is so Pam Bondi puts this statement out about what's going on. And this just sounds so fucking. I don't even know what the word is rotten, I guess.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah, rotten to the core. Quote, this Department of Justice does not shy away. And this is Pam Bondi posting a statement from the Deputy Attorney General. She's this these aren't her words. She's merely reposting what the Deputy AG said. This Department of Justice does not shy away from uncomfortable truths nor from the responsibility to pursue justice wherever the facts may lead. The joint statement by the DOJ and FBI of July 6 remains as accurate today as it was when it was written, namely that in the recent thorough review of the files maintained by the FBI in the Epstein case, no evidence was uncovered
Starting point is 00:38:39 that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties. President Trump has told us to release all credible evidence. If Ghislaine Maxwell has information about anyone who has committed crimes against victims, the FBI and the DOJ will hear what she has to say. Therefore, at the direction of Attorney General Bondi, I have communicated with counsel for Ms. Maxwell to determine whether she would be willing to speak with prosecutors from the department."
Starting point is 00:39:03 And basically says like, no lead is above or below our scrutiny. And you're like, okay, so y'all are warming up for a quid pro quo scheme here. That's- Oh yeah. Or- We're going to talk to the woman who was put away for being the head of a pedophile ring, who even when she was arrested and put away for 20 years, the president was like,
Starting point is 00:39:27 I think she's great. I wish her well. So obviously, there's some well-wishing going on. They're tight. It's a shame she wasn't charged when Trump was in office, because then he could have swiftly pardoned her. But yeah, now I'm like, this feels really... Because again, the way they're talking is like, maybe she has some new evidence where she'll selectively say,
Starting point is 00:39:54 because again, this doesn't end until the base gets names. You know what I mean? And somebody has to get locked up, I think, this for them to really put a bow on this shit. And there's like talk of there's talk of commuting her sentence. Oh yeah. In order to get her to talk, which then she can say whatever they want to say.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And that feels like, I feel like the tossing back and forth is just them buying time and they're doing some kind of bigger, scary plan and doesn't feel like a conspiracy. It's like, I think this is really bad. This seems like the Maxwell of it all. I'm like, you're pretending like this person doesn't have information or things didn't come out in the course of both trials. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Like that you can't act on. So I think this is, again, it serves two purposes. One, it makes it feel like they're pushing, they're going a step closer for the base to be like, well, you know what, we're going to talk to the lady who was Epstein's girlfriend. We're going to see what she has to say. I feel like that is how they end up
Starting point is 00:40:54 spinning this and getting out of it. Oh yeah, definitely. Having her, making a big media production of her coming out, and then just doing some scripted thing where she's like, and Donald Trump was not involved. However, Bill Clinton was a mastermind and involved in that. It is making me wonder, as hot as things have gotten for him, why is he not just throwing Bill Clinton under the bus? That's all these people want.
Starting point is 00:41:19 That's all they ever say. Bill Clinton was on the flight logs and was probably on the island and in the files. Why is he not doing that unless he's so guilty? He's so implicated. He was like, I was with Bill at the time. He was there the whole time. Yeah. It could just be like, he's like, bro, that's the pot calling the kettle an Epstein friend.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I mean, he doesn't mind being a hypocrite, but I'm wondering if he assumes that like that will just lead people in like, or tell me your point that like he's just in the process of like arranging things so that the files, the only files that people can access have Clinton in them and not him. Yeah. I feel like, I feel like she's going to name Rosie O'Donnell and all the people that he fucking has, like any enemy, she'll just be like, here's the list and it'll just be all people.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Steven Cold Bear, ASAP Rocky. He never thanked me for getting him out of Sweden. Very nasty. Oh, uh, YG. He had that song fuck down like Trump Talk about say that he fucks with Donald Trump. Maybe I'm not with all the bloods You know, I do wear a red tie, but no I claim crypt So people know that's that's where I'm at and I'm ten toes down on that shit. Yeah
Starting point is 00:42:39 But meanwhile Trump what he's doing is like he's doing a bunch of culture war wins right now. So we talked on like how he talked about how he was, he said he got Coke to switch it up to cane sugar and Coke was like, huh? No, no. We like high fructose corn syrup and the corn lobby of the United States was sort of like their response. Sir, this is very un-American of you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Like, uh, yeah, exactly. Industry is other countries. We don't have Yeah, exactly. The sugar industry is other countries. We don't have sugar, baby. We do corn sugars here. Coke has now said, well, yeah, actually, we're coming out with a Coke product, a natural cane sugar one. So that's coming out. But just not Mexican?
Starting point is 00:43:19 Not imported. Yeah. American Coke. It tastes better when it's in the glass bottle anyway. Yeah. Literally, they could just put regular Coke in a glass bottle and I would be like, you can really taste the sugar. You can really taste it.
Starting point is 00:43:33 This is a great vintage. Oh yeah. This is what, 89, I think? Then he also threatened the Washington commanders. He was like, dude, you better lose that woke ass name and go back to the skins or I'm going to fucking, I'm going to, I'm going to put the guy wash on a deal. He said, quote, my statement on the Washington Redskins was has totally blown up, but only in a very positive way. Okay. Yeah. I may put a restriction on them that if they don't change the name back to the original Washington Redskins and get rid of the ridiculous Monica Washington commanders. I won't make a deal for them to build a stadium in Washington.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Here's the thing. Congress already let the city of DC, like the district of Columbia decide what to do with like, what does that RF? What did they play? RFK? Okay. Stadium. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:18 RFK stadium. Yeah. So named after RFK junior. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so it's, it's going to be great. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be called the measles bull. Yeah. Yeah. So named after RFK junior. Yeah, exactly. So it's, it's, it's going to be great.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be called the measles bowl soon. Yeah. And they'll, but everyone, like all the journalists, like there's really no way, not sure exactly how he's going to like, like metal in that deal. Cause there's nothing to do with him at this point. But again, he's just saying, yeah, I am potent.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Watch me change, lean on this football team and make sure that I'm not going to be a bad guy. Yeah. So I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm
Starting point is 00:44:41 like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, with him at this point, but again, he's just saying things. Yeah, I am potent. Watch me change, lean on this football team and make Coke have sugar in it again. Wow. Wow. You're all mighty omnipotent Trump. And then there's just like a slow drip of like, I don't know, old shit that people are just resurfacing the people that I feel like is breaking through.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Like there's a video that went viral where it's just Trump. He's judging a like beauty contest for like preteen or like, you know, 14 year old girls with like the seriousness of like an art appraiser and like, it's just him and a bunch of like grown men just sitting back watching like 14 year olds walk by in fucking bathing suits. Like it's a dog show and they're like just looking at every, oh yeah. Which just like, I feel like enough time has passed that it just looks like fucking so weird and creepy.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And also, you know, enough people aren't like as much as they're going to want to dismiss it, he is acting so much like a nervous liar in a bad movie. Yeah. Where he's just like, what do you mean? I don't know what you're talking about. This guy, this guy that people said is my best friend, never heard of him. How did?
Starting point is 00:46:01 He's dead, so he cares. Yeah. Literally, all we knew was a collar yanking. I think, how close is he to putting a pair of eyeglasses on and be like, you wouldn't punch a man in glasses, would you? Like, what? That's where it went.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Did you see that clip that, another one that came out from in 1992, when he sees like a 10 year old girl on an escalator and he's like, I'll be dating her in 10 years. Yeah. Yeah. There's so many stories like that. There's so much. Thursday night, you're going up the escalator and he's like I'll be dating her in 10 years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, again, there's so many stories like that. This one. So much. You're going up the escalator. I'm going to be dating her in 10 years. Oh my god. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I feel like no,
Starting point is 00:46:36 like we'll probably have some of the things that he's said about Ivanka like cut resurfacing creasing because some of that shit is so wild. And like he was saying it while she was like a child. Yeah. So. Well, he's talking about, I don't know which daughter it was, but about her legs when she was an infant and like,
Starting point is 00:46:55 well, I don't know if she'll have like the breasts of her mother or not. It's like, yeah. Oh, he was talking about Tiffany, I believe. Tiffany, sorry Tiffany. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry Tiffany. Sorry, Tiffany. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Sorry, Tiffany. Sorry, Tiff. Sorry, Tiff. Not acknowledged that he was saying pedophile shit about you. Yeah. When you were a baby. She was a very beautiful baby. She's got Marla's legs.
Starting point is 00:47:16 We don't know whether or not he put his hands up to his chest. OK. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Really normal. Really normal. Really normal. He said the full quote is we don't know whether or not puts hands to chest. She's got this part yet, but time will tell. That's a cool and normal way to be looking at a fucking child
Starting point is 00:47:38 at your own infant. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Well, she has my she has the woman my my romantic partner's body. We'll see if the other part of it happens too. What's the purpose of this? It's normal. But honestly, I feel like you could just do such a, just create a documentary. There's like 30 minutes of just shit like this over and over
Starting point is 00:48:02 and just drop it on their asses. Yeah. Well, we'll see. They're probably closer to being like, I'd rather support a pedophile, honestly, if it's between that and a Democrat, because I'm not going to do it. But I don't know. It is frustrating because there's just so many, people's interest in this case comes, people are interested in this for a good reason. This is a concentrated amount of wealth and power that is clearly doing evil shit. The fact that it is just being fucked this badly and that a person involved in it is the president. Like most movies don't have it where the bad guy ends up being the actual president.
Starting point is 00:48:51 You know, the bad guy involved in the conspiracy. I think the beekeeper did that, but like otherwise it's pretty uncommon. It's like kind of bee movie territory. Clear and present danger or yeah, clear and pleasant kind of got near it where the president was covering for another bad guy and was trying to lean on Harrison Ford. But that still wasn't like smoking gun kind of stuff. It's just like weird to have like somebody fist fighting the president at the end of the movie.
Starting point is 00:49:19 The beekeeper, it's actually the president's shitty kid. So it would be like Donald Trump Jr. So it's a beekeeper. So why do you think, and maybe I'm sure you guys talked about this, but why did they in the first place bring it back up again? That seems like a weird move. Like they could have just, the files, I mean,
Starting point is 00:49:36 and just be like, nope, nothing to see here. Was there a lot of external pressure happening at that moment to make them decide to bring it up? Because if they hadn't brought it up, it just feels like people would have kept wanting it. They could have just been like, we're still working on it. We're still, this thing's going all the way to the top. Just do what everybody did with the JFK files for decades. Yeah. It just seems really odd that they decided, because they had to have known that it was
Starting point is 00:50:00 going to be a big problem. I think it's that they made the mistake of bringing in people like Cash Patel and Dan Bongino who are literally the head of the FBI and they were putting pressure. And so institutionally, they had to be like, no, this is nothing, we're moving on. And then when they did that, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino were pushing back on it. And then that, I think the Dan Bongino thing was the first time that there was a big flare up of this, right? Where people were like, oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:50:31 A genuine rift, yeah. Yeah, yeah. This seems like there's something happening here. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's just, I think they probably thought, we'll give them some grainy video and some other shit that they've
Starting point is 00:50:45 kind of seen and then that'll be it and we can keep it moving. And you didn't realize what they've been. These people have been simmering. Very messy. Yeah, it's very, yeah. And I can, I can only imagine what kind of fucked up shit they'll do in the name of self preservation to spin their way out of this. And what, you know, innocent people actually get harmed and, you know, victims are like re-traumatized again when they're like, we need to read from this document
Starting point is 00:51:13 again out loud and ask this person what they saw. Let's get Glayne out of prison. Let's talk to her. Let's get her out of prison. And then maybe she'll tell up the truth or have some kind of odd tragic accident that we just can't explain. You know, she's unhealthy. I think she's fine. I think she's their fucking golden ticket.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I do too. I think she's probably as safe as anyone's ever been in prison. But I don't know, unless she's like, I'm telling the fucking truth people. Or if she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, get me out there. All right, so here's the deal. Like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, the fucking truth people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get me out there. All right. So here's the deal. Like, yeah, I mean, that'd be, that would be nice. So I would imagine, but yeah, I'd imagine a scumbag of that degree is only looking
Starting point is 00:51:54 out for themselves and trying to avoid any kind of accountability. Just like evil nepo baby. Like the worst people would have to say to get out of this. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's what I think is most likely. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:54:18 For my heart podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is the turning river road. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor? But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt. For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey.
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Starting point is 00:55:38 This is the type of metal I did not know people were wearing. It is not earrings. Yeah. No, no, no. It's not like a belt buckle. No, this is a type of metal I did not know people were wearing. It is not earrings. Yes. No, no, no. Like a belt buckle. No, this is OK.
Starting point is 00:55:49 So this is a really fucked up story. So this man in New York was with his wife as she was getting her knee scanned. OK, at an open MRI facility. They thought the machine was off, apparently, because she's his wife was like, hey, can you help me up out of here? And so he was like, OK, let me enter the room now to help with a tech with the MRI tech, they're operating it went in there. But here's the thing. This man, this is from the The
Starting point is 00:56:15 Guardian article, or this written up quote, the technician operating the machine, which looks like a long narrow tube with openings on each end, then allowed Keith to walk in while he wore a nearly 20 pound metal chain that he used for weight training. So the guy was wearing a 20 pound metal chain around his neck. I guess. What does that look like? I didn't know this was a thing, but maybe I don't go to some thick ass,
Starting point is 00:56:40 like near anchor chain level kind of shit where it's like, I'm gonna put this fucking 20 pound workout chain on. Again, as somebody who's not working out, let alone their neck specifically with chains, I couldn't tell you, but I'd imagine it's something very industrial looking and again, just straight up metal. So then when that happened, he was quote sucked into the device by its potent magnetic force and endured a quote medical episode, which left him in critical condition. And then he was, he passed away a day later. And I'm like, how the fuck is this possible? Like you're already like, you have a death magnet machine and then you let a guy saunter
Starting point is 00:57:18 in with a fucking 20 pound iron chain around his neck. I just feel so negligent on the part of like the MRI facility. But apparently this wasn't the first time he wore the chain into the clinic. His wife told News 12 that she and her husband had previously been to NASA Open MRI, and he had worn his weight training chain there before. This was not the first time that guy had seen that chain.
Starting point is 00:57:44 She told the station they had a conversation about it before. Jeez. It's just like that has to be like MRI tech training. Number one, right? Like, aren't there signs all over those rooms? I'm like, yo, do not get the fuck out of here. If you have metal, uh, it's been many years since I had an MRI scan on my knee. It's when I had
Starting point is 00:58:05 Osgood Schlagers for my growing pains. But anyway, I've not been recently. I don't know if you have Andrew or have any insights to- I've had a couple scans. My chain, I left at home. Smart. Good. I think we've got to turn this open MRI into a closed MRI. I don't think they deserve to maintain the open MRI status. Right. Yeah. Yeah, real sad. Real sad for this woman. Your MRIs were recreational. They weren't even medical.
Starting point is 00:58:37 They were just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mine were just for fun. Yeah. I like the beeps. I like the sounds. I like the vibe. Then you're like, hey tell me my brains good Yeah, what does the scan say my brains good? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah an IQ. Well, no, they said my brain my brain was so dense and smart that they actually couldn't even scan it Oh, wow, that felt good. Yeah, that's sick
Starting point is 00:59:00 Sorry, yes, it's a mess. Yeah, yeah, me that dense. There's a big red X on the screen. Yeah, I think that's good. I think that's good. But just like this story sounds like the like the like a wacky incident from like the early days of MRI scans or it's like, ah, okay, don't have all these oxygen tanks near the big magnetic. I don't want to be the devil's advocate because this is a new story, so who knows? But the article that I was reading said that that he ran in and they told him not to but I don't know who I don't I don't want a victim blame here I don't know who's at multiple
Starting point is 00:59:31 accounts either way I'd be like I would be like sir don't even come into my MRI facility with this fucking thing on yeah I don't even I agree with that I know what can happen and I don't care if it's your right to work work out over there because I don't want the trauma of something terribly happening and I have to bear witness to that. Please. It's just very again. It just feels like so multiple failures at every level when I'm like it's what's it called magnetic resonance imaging is what MRA stands for. I did like a full body scan thing in one of those a couple of years ago. And like, well, I was in there for like an hour and they let you watch TV
Starting point is 01:00:11 and the one that I was in. It's like real lying. It was really interesting. You're lying down and as you're looking up, you're looking at a mirror of a TV that's like behind a wall behind you, like behind plexiglass. Oh, right. OK, so right. This is like they're going to put it're going to put an iPad above his face. It's not in there, but the way they did it was really interesting.
Starting point is 01:00:30 You're looking up at a mirror of a TV that's behind. I don't know. It's kind of cool, I thought. That's how serious they are. They've invented new magic castle type shit to avoid there being any metal in there. Then this guy or the tech was just like, yeah, come on in here yeah they're consulting with David Copperfield to let you watch now I do feel like particularly called to this type of I could see something like this
Starting point is 01:00:55 happening to me like just oh no like this feels real you know like they talk about the call of the void the people who are like You know standing on the edge of a building and they're just like but what if I? Are in the head on traffic anytime like you know, there's the garbage disposal is going in the sink And I'm just like, you know What if I just I don't want to I want not to but it's like you're you're parked outside of the MRI center with your wife and you got like a giant metal chain in one hand and a plastic one in the other. And you're like, which one do I see?
Starting point is 01:01:37 Anyways, or do I wear my plastic chain with a bunch of nails? Construction nails on it. Oh, that's right. So many options. But yes, please. God, like, like to the point, right? Like final destination creates these like sort of weird phobias for us or movies do that I can't like y'all come on now. We should be terrified of MRI machines.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Just with something going awry at this point. Like every time when I've driven, I remember driving through Washington state once and being near like a logging truck. And I was like, I'm like, bro, I'm getting off the fucking highway, dude. I don't even want to be near this shit because I saw a movie when I was 14. That movie, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I do wonder if that movie like caused a drop in deaths by logging truck. I don't know how common they were in the first place. Right. I've definitely been way more careful around logging trucks since seeing that movie. I used to be a wild man. You were a reckless. You were reckless.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I became the logging truck. Whatever the equivalent of birding is, I was doing that for logging trucks. Just trying to get real close. You played a game, you're like, you see a log, you close your eyes and step on the gas Learn your lesson with the garbage disposal Don't want to I just know the possibility is there you know what I mean? That's what the void is
Starting point is 01:03:01 It's not it's not so yeah, it's like I want to do this I mean, that's what they call the void is. It's not, it's not somebody who's like, I want to do this. There's a part of you that recognizes, I think it's a part of me that recognizes how little I'm in control of that or like how, how much of my mental faculties are happening like, you know, in a part of my brain that I don't have access to. You know what I mean? Right. Then you're like, why am I into this? Yeah. Why am I so horny right now? It's calling you like the ring of power.
Starting point is 01:03:28 It's like, how should I put my power? Well, I think it's just, it's one of those things where just like such a small shift has can have such profound consequences is an interesting concept, I think. Yeah, like if you just did this one small thing, everything would be quite different. I think that's, that's, that's the smart version of what we're trying to say. For sure. I think people talk about it with regards to like grabbing a cop's gun.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like out and there's a cop right there. Oh, yeah, I'm not not looking at that gun. Oh, yeah, you're looking at everyone looks at a cop's gun. Yeah, yeah. They go, hmm, hmm, hmm. Like that Britney Broski meme. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:03 You're like that Britney Broski meme. Yeah, exactly. All right. Let's talk about the Catholic Church, shall we? Thank you. It is Tuesday. We've got a- Later stories. When Hollywood inevitably reboots The Exorcist, I firmly believe they should make it about this.
Starting point is 01:04:26 The goofiest one. There's a story published in The Pillar, which I don't have to say this, I hope. But it's a journalistic outlet that covers the Catholic Church, covers the world of Catholicism. But we all knew that. So this story went viral. I wonder how many The Pillar stories go viral.
Starting point is 01:04:46 But- I can never tell when they go viral because I get my pillar in the mail. I get it delivered. In your mail. Yeah, mine comes hard copy. So I don't do the social media thing. Back to your animal.
Starting point is 01:04:56 But I've cut out a few stories. Let me look at the ones I've cut out though. That'll help you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I missed this one when I was reading it yesterday. So underrated. Reading The the pillar in paper form. As the Pope intended. So, this story revealed that a group of Denver seminarians, again, I'm not going to have to tell
Starting point is 01:05:20 anybody what seminarians are, but just in case, these are people training to become priests, were subjected to a strange ritual involving fake blood and a Yeti costume. They were woken up in the middle of the night and told they had to participate in a, quote, sacred tradition, which involved being led into a trailer where a priest dressed as a Yeti performed a fake ritual involving grisly blood. He warned them, if you enter into this family, there's no going back. And the seminarians were told to scream as if in pain before leaving the trailer with bloodied hands and taped mouths. And then just like went back and like washed up.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Oh, but then they had to go into the next room because they would come out to freak out the next batch of precent training. So like, so freak them out. So then when they, when they go in, they're like, Oh, no, you guys are bloody and screen. Oh, it's a classic yeti blood fake out. I thought you knew the classic yeti blood fake out. Yeah. And also this is why was Hugh Grant behind this. This sounds like that movie that was also set in Colorado. I don't know. Oh, shit. It was set in Boulder. This feels again.
Starting point is 01:06:35 This is why this is peak virgin behavior. Like doing shit like this. We do a yeti. Get your ass. Man, y'all should be fucking, bro. What is this? The fuck are you? I feel like we're gonna do a Yeti blood oath tonight. Get their ass miles. Man, y'all should be fucking, bro. What is this? The fuck are you?
Starting point is 01:06:47 I would be so pissed off if I'm like, if I even was trying to do something serious and like, and you're gonna do the Yeti blood oath. I'm like, you guys are fucking losers, dude. What? It was already a stretch, me dedicating my life to the fucking church, but now we're doing Yeti blood oath shit? Fuck out of here. Come on. The photos are not. They're, I don't oath shit. Fuck out of here. Come on. Photos are not there.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I don't like them. It's tough. So Yeti is tricky because what do you mean? In what sense? I don't find Yeti scared. I only know it as like Harry and the Henderson's. Like I don't find it interesting or scary. Or you're a Disney adult who loves the Matterhorn.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Right. Our virgins were talking about Jack Disney adult who loves the Matterhorn. Right. Our virgins were talking about Jack. It's from the Matterhorn. They love fucking Disneyland. But their mileage varies wildly around Yeti stuff. Some people seem to just really love Yeti shit, be real all in on it, you know? Like I feel like Yeti is one of those things that I dismiss, but I'm also like very interested in aliens and UFOs. So like, you know, it's just one of those things that I think has like a deep spiritual power over certain people that I wouldn't ever again, Virgin.
Starting point is 01:08:04 When I say certain people, you of course know the employee. I don't know. Cause I've, I'll, I do stuff for the people that I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,, dude. I never said it was I would never you were in I don't know the employee I don't know Cuz I've I'll I do sex dude. I've done sex
Starting point is 01:08:32 Before so and I fuck with Star Wars man find a new angle, dude. I Don't I don't know. Do you guys like fuck with yetis at all? Are you interested in like yeti sightings, big foot sightings? I mean, yeah. Where do you even come from? I even grew up in the woods and I just, I grew up in like the middle in Colorado and I just, I never really cared or thought of it.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I just feel like, I just feel like, I don't know. Like at this point there would be something about it if it was legit. That's what I think. But even if it wasn't legit, it's like they find new animals in the ocean all the time, and it's not like a big deal. It's like, oh, I guess there was a thing we didn't think about. I don't know. Even if there was a Yeti, it's kind of like, is it just like a different kind of animal? I don't know. It doesn't even feel that relevant or that important.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Right. And yet, people are obsessed. If people were like mysteriously getting killed in the woods, like every month, you know, like, then I think that the story would be more, more interesting. Oh, you are about to hear from some people. Okay. Then they will tell you that that is exactly what's happening. Do they really claim? Cause okay.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Cause I guess I thought that they were just saying that there's sightings, but they're saying that they're actually like people are getting killed and stuff. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You don't know about the mysterious disappearances in the state parks, man. Okay, I'm in. I mean, you look at a map, you look at where people have disappeared from. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:55 I guess I didn't realize it was that. Okay. Couldn't be human murderers. Yeah. But this, the way, first of all, this, the pillar write up, it's a sub stack, which I love. And there's an editor's note, which is so funny how Insular, this field of journalism must be said, quote, owing to pre-existing relationships or other circumstances, which could constitute a potential conflict of interest.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Neither JD Flynn nor Michelle LaRosa contributed to the reporting or editing of this story. I'm sorry. Are you related to the fucking Yeti priest or something and you don't want to snitch? The way this sounds is really- We couldn't be fully objective on this one, guys. This is so painful. It says, when the seminaries entered the trailer, the seminarians were met by Father Friar Napil,
Starting point is 01:10:37 who can be seen in the video setting up a camera to record the occasion alongside a man dressed in a yeti costume. Each seminarian was then invited to sit at the table on which there was a dagger and what appeared to be blood and a dollar bill on a piece of paper. This is giving such virgin horror movie bullshit I've ever in a video of the ritual seen by the pillar the seminarian asked if he has
Starting point is 01:10:58 quote any ideas what's going to happen to which the seminarian response no quote you're about to enter into a sacred tradition. Are you ready for it? The seminary and also in front of the people who come up here, not everyone makes it to enter into the tradition. And he said, you guys have the balls.
Starting point is 01:11:15 This is such, this is like snipe hunt shit when you're doing boy scouts. I'm really impressed with how you're handling this. Yeah. Also like this is the most sacrilegious shit ever. I know. And they just got, and this is going to surprise anybody who's familiar with a Catholicism, but because no canonical crime had occurred, the priest slash
Starting point is 01:11:37 Yeti was given a slap on the wrist and merely reassigned. Oh, oh, well that is the ultimate punishment in the Catholic Church. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got that muscle worked out real nice. What'd they do? Let me see. I don't know. Is penal code 290, section 315 in the... No, I guess no. I guess we'll just have to reassign them. An important aspect of this is that the church... like, so I, the thing that I was assuming the church would be like, this is ridiculous. We're mad at you. Like, this is like mocking Catholicism by like wearing a spirit Halloween yeti costume and like making that a part of our like very serious, like ancient tradition where like we like wear robes and whip ourselves or whatever. Instead, they were mad and brought in an exorcist to reverse.
Starting point is 01:12:31 They're saying it's legit. Kind of. So which one is it? Again, is it no canonical crime has been committed, but then you need an exorcist to come up and clean up the vibes? The exorcist prayed over the seminarians and they made a formal renunciation of this blood oath that they had made. But it doesn't say whether the seminarians had asked to swear, had been
Starting point is 01:12:53 asked to swear an oath of no take backs when they were first doing it. Because if they had the form, if they had done a no take backs, then the formal renunciation actually holds no water. Uh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. They said it's immature. I mean, yeah, no shit. Cause you have a bunch of emotionally stunted dudes doing weird blood oath crap. It's just like, okay, no, you're, you're, you're having them sort of whatever.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Like now, now my inner Catholic teacher is coming out. This is not, this is not a game. This is demonic. This goes back to my point that my pitch for Catholicism and all organized religion get into the psychedelics thing. Like this is your future. They, they, there was a study that, I mean, they've done multiple studies, but studies where they had priests and like people who are religious leaders taking psychedelics and they were like, wow, this is like a powerful religious experience and make that your thing would be so good for
Starting point is 01:13:55 organized religion and be a lot cooler if you did. No, no. We want to do like a weird janky haunted house type thing. That's what we want to be thing To open their eyes to God We should go to we should go to the Catholic churches and we're like shirts that say hashtag let them fuck What you are fucking. I still like that idea. Hey, man. Instead of Jesus gets us, they're like, okay, the next one is what's your fucking.
Starting point is 01:14:36 My fucking is playing the Nintendo Switch 2. My fucking is weirdly Yeti blood oaths for some reason. I don't know what wires got crossed. Yeah, but I'm into it. I love cryptids. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles.
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