The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 398 (Best of 9/8/25-9/12/25)

Episode Date: September 14, 2025

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So without further ado, here is the week. Eakley Zeitgeist. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very talented writer who's written for the L.A. Times, Rolling Stone, the New York Times, you know, little small publications like that. Her new book is fetishized, A Reckoning with Yellow Fever, Feminism, and Beauty out in the world now. Go by it. It's a great read. Super fascinating. Please welcome. Kyla! You know! That's such amazing opening. I was like, I need to think of a better opening interest.

for myself, like a dramatic one you guys have. You can bring me wherever you're going. I'd have to just, like, be my hype man behind me. Yeah, exactly. Mm-hmm. I do try and bring a boom box wherever. Oh, that would be amazing, like on your shoulder. Yeah, exactly.

Thank you for joining us. Yeah, thanks for having me. The book is out now. Is that like huge relief? Yeah. I mean, I actually got really depressed the next day. So there's a thing called postpartum book publication because I went and looked online and there's a ton of articles about it.

A lot of build up and then much like having a kid, you're just like, oh, this is it? Yeah. My life hasn't changed overnight. That's pretty much the reaction, yeah. I mean, it's like the same thing I think we're like working on political campaigns too. That happens to people the day after election day because everything is leading up to one day. And then you get on the other side of it and you're like, what?

Wait, but can you imagine you're on the losing side? Because if you're on the winning side, then you could be depressed, but at least we won. Yeah, but even on the winning side, you're kind of like, oh, man, I like, I like didn't talk to anyone the last two months to just get through this election or whatever. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The book is really amazing, Kyla, Jack and I are reading it over the weekend and like I was talking before. Yeah, in each other's last. Taking turns, taking turns. Because Jack doesn't, Jack doesn't know about the inland empire.

He doesn't know about what's up in the same game of the house. Where are you from? I'm from all over the East Coast and Midwest. Nobody outside of California, people in California don't even know about the inland empire. It was a fascinating learning experience. I want to learn about the inland empire. I know. I had to explain him what the watching gangst who watching gangsters were.

You know what I mean? These are all very SoCal things. That's like that's a SoCal Asian exclusively. Yeah, yeah. Not Asian knows. That's what I loved about the book. I mean, aside from like your very specific experiences, like, you know, just dealing with, you know, the sort of gender expectations and beauty standards that come

along with being not white in America. But like this stuff about just growing up in Southern California and just the little details that you put in that were, I'm like, it might not be for everyone, but every single like high school is like Edewanda, go on. Hosseenda Heights, go on. It was like hitting my brain. I was like, watching. Yes.

It was a special time, right? I feel like all the people from that air are very nostalgic about it. Yeah. I was just waiting for one of those hondas for $100,000. I made me wish my, yeah. And then like working as an import model, I mean, like you've had such as, just you're, you've touched every experience.

It's a really fascinating book. And I think people should definitely check it out, especially for the obscure esoteric Asian gang references, too. I was thinking like, oh, is it. And if you want to know everything about the import scene, which no one's ever heard of either. Yeah, right. Yeah.

Yeah, you learn a lot about parts of the world you might not be familiar with, and you also get incisive analysis of The Little Mermaid. Oh, yeah, deep dive. Which I always appreciate. Yeah, I was just in Copenhagen looking at that statue. It's really underwhelming. Really? Yeah. It's small.

Yeah, so many people are like, we're going to go see it. And you're like, it's tiny, y'all. It's not like some Disney park. Yeah. No, it nearly is. Oh, really? I'm joking. Yeah, yeah.

No, I think American people, they're like, little mermaid statue and they go and they're like, what is this like art piece? You know what I mean at the shore of the water? Yeah, one thing that also really touched my brain was too is like sort of, I think this happens especially with kids of color in America, especially in like the late 80s and 90s. Like, who do I model my life after on TV? Like I don't have an example. And like especially for me being black and Japanese, like there was certainly no like black

person for me to look up to. So I'd be like, so you can do karate man or you can do basketball gangster and like trying to figure out like sort of parsing through all those things and like trying to land on who you are and what, you know, like, it's like, am I who I am I this version of like, who do I select from from the available like characters on TV? So who did you choose? I was like a combination of like Will Smith. I was mostly like Will Smith.

I think Will Smith was like, because I was like, I wasn't full of myself. I wasn't a tough guy. So I was never like trying to put on some like tough kid persona. You weren't trying to get into watching. No, they wouldn't have me. You know, they should be like you might, you look like maybe you would be an STS, the Filipino gang. They weren't, they were having me watching. But yeah, like I was just like just all of these things.

It's interesting just to see how, you know, universal that kind of experiences, especially for like kids of immigrants or just, you know, like non-white kids. in the U.S., so yeah, just all over, just really, really fun read, aside from just like the very serious stuff too, which I thought was really poignant. Yeah, just all the ways that, you know, the gap between your, like your existence as a human being with an inner life and then the way often white men will talk to you. Oh, have you heard of the Asian fetish being a white man? Yeah, I have heard that. My wife is Korean, actually. So I've been, oh, yeah. Just kidding, just kidding. I've been there for many, where are you from, from questions directed at her.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's so cringy. Okay, so I have a friend who is married to a Korean woman also, and she's the first Asian. He's ever dated. He definitely doesn't have an Asian fetish. And he's like, he gets like little remarks here and they're like questions. Like, oh, do you have an Asian? you know like yeah yeah i'm sure you probably get nudged by other pervert dudes who're like hey man

and you're like what my fucking wife i'm in love with since i was like a young man no yeah it is yeah it's i mean i think about too like i have like you know my friends who are asian women they talk about how like you know how much you have to really kind of have your head on a swivel a lot of times because dudes will just are purely there to be like Asian, right? Okay. In that voice, too. Yeah, or like, she'll be, like, I have one home girl. She's like, this second.

She's like, I'll go on to date this. If the guy says Asian anything, I'm off this. Like, I'm not even trying to hear it. My wife literally had a policy of, like, she didn't really date people who had dated Asian women before. Same. Yeah, I don't want that to be your thing. I don't want to be like part of your thing for Asian women.

Yeah, it just feels like not special. Yeah. Yeah. And she had hurt, like, she was like, yeah. And then sometimes they'll be like, oh, it's just like being into blondes. And I'm like, not really. But it was funny because as I was like talking to her about the book, like, all these conversations that she had were coming up. So, yeah, super fascinating.

Yeah, some men are very weird, like the things they feel I'm very comfortable saying. Yeah, right? Yes. Yeah, they live in a consequence-free world. That's right. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay, so a recent thing for my search history is, did Christopher Columbus have sex with a manatee? So there's apparently, like, they have all of his journals from his, like, kind of travels around the world.

And there's, like, a specific entry where he talks about how he thinks he saw a bunch of mermaids. And then he says, like, they're not quite. quite as beautiful as I thought that they would be. They're a little lumpy. And it's like clearly there were manatees. So my question is, why isn't that in a prager, are you sure? You know, I feel like it's just right there. Yeah.

Oh, my God. Wondering, just chin stroking, they aren't, like, from afar. Yeah. It's like, not horrifying. It's just like, hmm, look, I thought they'd be a 10, but they're like an eight. So the end of the guy who's been at sea for like three months, just, you know debilitatingly horny it's it's that uh if you've seen that movie the lighthouse where a big plot point is that robert patinson like carves a naked woman out of a piece of

rock and then like keeps jacking off to it like becomes enchanted by it i really think that is i think that's what we were dealing with for the majority of human history People whose brains were broken by their unbelievable horniness. To answer the question, did Christopher Columbus have sex with the manatee? The answer is, yeah, probably. Those have a lot of research. It's like, you know, chances are, you know. Just him being like, they're not as pretty as I thought.

Has me think that's doing a lot for me. There's a dot, dot, dot at the end of that sentence for sure. Yeah, but. But it's like he like scratched it out. Nothing. Nothing, Bobadilla. Leave me alone. I'm writing my journals.

Came to realize all at once that they weren't as beautiful as they seemed at first. I don't know what it was that changed. But we were in close quarters, and suddenly I was rocketed. I understood the beauty. Wow. That is, I mean, I feel like, yeah, if we can't get enough people to cancel the idea of Christopher Columbus for the era of untold, you know, colonialism that he ushered. in with his explorer, his explorations, maybe it's him fucking a manatee that can get some people

like, oh, he fucked a manatee? No, he was writing that in his journal while riding on the back of, I said he fucked humanity. Right. I got to say, okay, so I'm, you know, as a native person, I'm obviously very for indigenous people's day. But I got to say, after reading this, I'm not opposed to Columbus Day being a holiday. I just think instead of it being in October, it should be January. where a 10th, which is the date in his journal

where he may be had sex with a man. We have the date. Wait, and why this day, young man? Yeah, he's journals, man. Will you see? What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Okay, this is really dumb, but

for years and years and years, I have been driving around without a phone holder in my car. Uh-huh. And I just got one, and we're not talking about these things enough. It's amazing.

It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. Oh, my God. Like, literally, I want to say the last time I had one was probably six-ish, more than five years ago, maybe even significantly more. So it really is the type of thing where I'm like, wow, I literally had the fuck the other day

driver. I was like, my phone's right there. It's just right there. I don't have to look down. Oh, my God. So anyway, I think those little pieces of plastic are pretty underrated. Prior to that, you were just driving around with it in front of your face. For sure.

With one of your hands holding it up in front of your face. The exact same spot where the holder would be. Yeah. And I had a couple phones. I have the Android item on, like a rude Goldberg machine, Homemade GoPro, dash cam, all of it. But now I just have the one holder, yeah. Yeah.

Always a boxing glove and a boot that's connected. connected to a wheel somehow. It's a boot, like on a plunger. Yeah, on a plunger that like spins for it and kicks something. A bowling ball. I'm usually driving down Banana Peel lane. Is it a phone holder that connects into the air conditioning vent? Yes, but it is also one that has enough space so that it's like I can still feel the air from that vent.

it sounds like you got a good one out yeah i got to search red it do you search redid to figure out which one to get no that one i just took that one i just took a stab in the road dark because i think what i think what i think what happened was the phone fell or something i was like let me just get one of these fucking things right now

and you were doing the search on a broken phone from heaven fallen yeah exactly exactly yeah phone holder for a car and then you just hit the i'm feeling lucky button that's not even a thing anymore is it oh yeah do they even have no oh no they do they do here i'm going to do right now still there holder for car and guess what assholes at google i'm feeling fucking lucky

oh it just fucking feel it doesn't even give i didn't realize what it does it just sends you to whatever it sends you to the top result oh yeah okay that sent me straight to amazon uh amazing amazing they should i feel like they should be like i'm feeling really lucky and And, like, you hit that and you just, like, get the thing, whatever they want to send you. They're just like, yeah, you just bought that shit. I'm going to put Tame and Paula tickets refresh. I'm feeling lucky. There you go.

Just send me straight to fucking Ticketmaster. There you go. They are good friends at Ticketmaster. What is something, Blair, that you think is overrated? Thank you for asking, Jack. And it's going to have to be loboos. I don't want a stuffed animal attached to my purse. Stop it.

I'm not falling victim to your Beanie Baby-Ass Cray's reboot, okay? I don't like reboots in general, and I don't give a shit about loboos, and I think they're weird, even though I love stuffed to animals. So it doesn't make sense. Oh, you love stuffed to animals? Yeah, and the privacy of my own goddamn cave. Like, I'm not walking around. Wait, hold on. Wait, Blair. Stuffed animal caves. Wait, you really fuck with stuffed animals like that? No, I have, no, okay. If I'm going to be, I've already revealed so much on this show over the last decade. Um, I have one weighted, like, six pound bear that is sort of like a weighted blanket that I sleep with. And then I have one stuffed animal from my childhood named Gorilli that I have recently

brought from my parents' house up to here because it was like a thing with me and my brother. So that's like a little comfort thing. So at current moment, I have two in my home. Okay. I thought you were like low-key, like you're really into stuffies and shit. No, Miles, that'd be freaky, okay? Just because I research octopuses for several hours doesn't mean I have like so. Not freaking to me at all.

Does it have some, like, I'm some freak adult stuffy house, a freaky ass. I, camera turns around and just a room full of stuffed animals just watching Blair. She has them all set up, like it looks like a comedy club audience. They're all having to have drinks and food in their little flickering candles. That would actually be really funny to do a special to that. Maybe I should do that. I'll credit you. I'll give you a writing credit.

You don't even have to. Just invite us. Oh, but we would have to, like, hide behind. Is this a life? Is this a life size? No, you'd have to be inside stage. Yeah, okay. That's my backstage.

I'll wait and the wings going with my hands. I'm going, yes, Blair, you're doing it. You're doing it. I'll be put in a hospital if I did that problem. My God. Wait, do you know, do you have contemporaries that are fucking with Lububoos? Oh, yeah, a lot of them. And actually, like, a few of my favorite people.

So no shade to them. If they listen to this, I support you in your freaky-ass, like, endeavors. But I think they're weird, and I would never participate no matter what. And they should be ashamed of themselves. The weighted stuffed bear that kind of acts as a weighted blanket, does it lay on you face down or face up? Oh, my God, Jack. I'm just trying to fix it.

What are you getting at here? Jack, what kind of thing is this? Jack, what kind of perverted-ass question was that? Like a face down Which way my weighted A bear is facing, I don't know I'm just like picturing a bear Like laying face down lifeless

Is it north to south? What are we talking? Where to head at it? It's on my chest usually Or in my nose Or I'm cradling it You know. But a six pound, I feel like that's

Like I get a blanket Because that weight is distributed pretty easily That's just like Just having one image of contact of like, is it big enough chest and it's like, yeah. Okay. All right. When I'm snuggling watching TV.

I wasn't trying to make it horny. I was just trying to like get a sense of like where I was just joking. That's where Jack's particular things come out to. How is it oriented? I was just having a laugh with you. He's just having a laugh. He's nervously texting me right now. There he's saying, did I fuck this up?

Did I put this up? Is Blair mad at me? Do you think? Cut this out. Cut this out. Cut this out. Cut this out. Why are you texting me this?

I just think it's a funny visual image, a bear lying either face down on top of you or face up on top of you. I know. That's just me. You have no idea how weird again. I guess I'm a weirdo. The face-to-face is like you're hugging the bear.

You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And then outwardly also feels more like a display hug. Yeah, I mean. And you tell the bear, I'm fin to grab you by the waist. Yeah. Does it say that sometimes?

It doesn't speak if you can believe it. Oh, okay. I don't know what your money's on. It's really just a nervous system tool that's kind of cozy. Yeah, help your limbic system out. Yeah, absolutely. Calm down that amygdala. Exactly.

Let amygdala be firing. Got to calm it down. Shout out Tara Brock. Why does it make me laugh so hard every time you bring out Terra? You got to bring up Tara the God, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? If we're not doing rain, what's it all about, baby? they're all about how are we going to navigate these emotional trials and tribulations i love when you

bam right jack you know about this no i don't know about this at all recognize allow investigate nurture it's terror brocks like this like therapist spiritual woman who like broadcast i think from like dc virginia maryland area somewhere in the dmv but like my dad i remember he's like i've been listening this terra brock lady her voice is so soothing and she just has like these like sort of long informed talks about, like, you know, our emotions and things like that. Yeah, and she's a meditation teacher. And, yeah, her voice is like just very, like, almost hypnotizing, relaxing. It's like the goaded NPR voice.

Right. It's like so. It takes a little walk around. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. If we're going goaded NPR voices, it's Tara Brock, Terry Gross, Lairsaki. When I used to lead some online breathwork. glasses. I'd always be like, I wonder how this is sounding for them. Are you doing,

how would you do it? Are you doing really soft? Are you projecting? Is it more like ASMO? I can't. Give this a sample. No, I can't. I don't know. It was so long ago. I just need to breathe in. Sometimes people will come up to me and be at the show and be like, I took one of your breathwork classes and I'm always like, well, that's so weird. Oh, after you do stand up? Yeah. Like, I mean, like, wow. You've seen so many different sides of me. Yeah. Cross genre.

Yeah, it doesn't matter. We love you. The Blair Socky triple crown. That's right. Oh, very weird, call. Let's take a quick break. And we'll be right back. When news broke earlier this year that baby KJ, a newborn in Philadelphia,

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of your 20s on the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And yeah, there's a new Gallup poll that says the capitalism is at a... They started asking about this. They didn't even think to ask about this until 2010. They're like, wait, do we like capitalism?

Is this a good thing? And back then, 61% of people approved of capitalism. And then they were like, and fucking, why not ask, what do you think of socialism? And back then, 36% of people approved of socialism. So since then, capitalism has slid seven percentage points. Socialism has gone up. three percentage points. Socialism's

fighting a fucking tough uphill battle in the United States, but I do feel... One way to put that tough uphill battle against the most propagandized people on the I do like just think this is worth noting. Like we're bombarded with

news and daily realities that make it seem like this version of capitalism is like unceasing and unbeatable and we'll be here forever. But I do think that's at least partially, it feels that way because we're inside the propaganda machine for capitalism, you know? They will cover, like, the local news covers, like, door buster sales, like,

their sporting events. And then they, like, won't cover the fact that, like, a local corporation or, like, a local country club has been caught poisoning your water supply. Yeah, no, no. How long has that one lady been in line for PlayStation? Yeah. Yeah, you see black Friday videos of, like, an old, lady getting stabbed over a PS5 as like the person who did the stabbing's of the hero yeah yeah

they're like crazy these people are about deals dangers will be like my kids been talking about that too i mean i get it i get it you're like what about the poisoned water yeah one thing i just want to highlight that you brought up is like it is so 2010 uh the positive ratings for capitalism was 61 percent uh now it's 54 percent that means that since 2010 after multiple financial collapses record high unemployment, price increases, CEOs having so much money that they're literally building multi-million dollar doomsday bunkers. Only 7% of people have been like, wait a second, capitalism's given me second thoughts. I mean, I think that's where the people's probably definitely, like, the people are asking, like, I don't even know the definition of capitalizing.

It's like what we do here? Like, what do you think of water? It's just, yeah, yeah. And they're like, love it? Yeah. Do I love it or just like it? I don't know, like, is it bad? They're like asking the pollster, is it bad? Well, no, I'm asking you that. Oh. But even like the people who don't know to be like, I'm slightly less enthusiastic about capitalism.

Like, I feel like we're seeing these little things, like the Zoran story, which it's, you know, not the story, the actual event, which has the story of the event of his like, you know, shocking political win has been like, this guy might be a very talented politician. It's like treated as like a lightning bolt

out of the clear blue sky. Oh, yeah. Instead of exactly what you would expect to happen if, you know, you live in a world where every fucking day there's more news about the devastating consequences of this current system that we live in. So, I don't know, it's not like,

major progress, but I do feel like there is a thing happening that, like, you know, people just like, why the feeling in their bones is telling them that, like, something is wrong around them. They might not know the exact wording for it, but I do feel like there is progress being made. Yeah. So it's like in the animatrix when, like, when the runner is just like, wait a second, I can see a couple of numbers ahead of me or something like that. Exactly. Yeah. yeah yeah like what's that like there's this have you seen this v h1 video that is making the rounds that's like i don't know exactly what like it's a lifestyles of the rich and famous yeah it's the fabulous life of the fabulous life of and it's a segment about this new york billionaire that uh i don't

know if miles you can you can play it for a second year but this is like where we're coming from that i just want to play for you oh man i totally remember this like intro Yeah Wow This guy seems cool I wonder who he could be Yeah

Financier Jeffrey Epstein Wow Jeff was a high school math teacher Until he traded his blackboard For the big board in 1976 He eventually launching his own exclusive finance firm

For billionaire clients But he just couldn't keep out of the classroom Uh oh Dude, that line, we just couldn't keep that one of the classroom. It's just so jarring to see his story over, like, the VH one behind the music, like record scratch. And then he did this other thing. Yeah, exactly.

He's traded it in for the big board. For a new house, he bought himself an entire schoolhouse. And transformed it into the largest single residence in all of Manhattan. Uh-oh. 51,000 square feet. Hey, somebody should look into this guy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Sample? What the fuck? But that's where we're coming from where, like, that was deemed. Like, later there's like a guy from like paper magazine, which was like a, you know, hipster magazine that is just like, man, this guy, I mean, when you got three planes, uh, your life's going to be pretty cool. Talking about his trip to Africa with Bill Clinton and Kevin Spacey. Yeah, hanging out with the bigwigs.

Like Bill Clinton and Kevin Spacey. Oh, Sproletons Space Man. And a Boeing 727 with, of course, an in-flight trading room. He has a Boeing 727. I'm just wondering, now, what do you need a commercial thighs airliner for? Good question. Uh-huh. comes in handy when you've got powerful friends to fly around.

Oh. When Bill Clinton organized a week-long... This is so fucking disturbing. His personal 727. Wow, wow, wow, wow. So that's where we're coming from. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So we're making progress.

I think everybody, like, from that point of view where, like, that was just the steady buzz in the background was just like, this guy is cool. He's a billionaire to, like, now. Now we get to see what actually goes on behind the scenes of somebody like that. I do got to say, I think that this video is showing me what Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein have done together. And that's, they're just trading ideas, guys. It's just idea swap. Ideas swap day, man, on a fucking commercial jetline.

Ideas, swap, blah, blah, who needs a plane that size, size, size, say. Go dig a little fucking deeper, please. Why do you buy a school? I know, it's like funny that they like kind of, they're all these like, I mean, there's no way, like, during the research for the segment didn't encounter, for instance, that one of those planes was nicknamed the Lolita Express, right? Yeah, named the Lorlita Express. I wonder what was going on there. Yeah, or just answering that question.

Like, why, why does he need a plane that big? Anyway, moving on. So those just things that people can't deny that they're seeing with their own eyes are. It's wild. He was charged a year. before this episode aired. Is that real charge? He had criminal charges in Palm Beach in 2006.

This shit came out in 2007. But hey, look, he's got money. I mean, and that's the same thing. Like, it wouldn't have even mattered because shows like this were just purely focused on, wee, look at all the money. Look at what money do. That, of course, they're like,

I don't know, freaking ignore the charges. He's Bill Clinton's friend. He's got a jet. Yeah. So I feel like that's not too far from where our current, even mainstream media would like to keep things. Like, that's where they're just like, yeah, you know, it's fun. They're billionaires.

Man, who knows what goes on there. And then when somebody like is actually like, capitalism might be bad, we should like do some things to push back against it. They're like, shock election result. What the, these people must be watching, must be brainwashed by the new Jurassic Park movie as we talked about. Those are their reaction. I mean, I am brainwashed by the new Jurassic Park movie. So, yeah, that is fair. Those are explanation for the Zora and Mumdani win was, all these people must be, you know, it's from watching all these Hollywood movies with socialist messaging.

They were like, they think he's a velociraptor. Right. I better vote for him. I don't want him to attack me. He's a raptor. But yeah, I mean, like, this goes along with like, you know, in the U.S. now, our rights are just rapidly eroding. And we have an administration that is just hell bent on redefining what freedom even means in, like, any context for every person. And luckily, we have an ill-equipped, naive and frightened opposition party in the Democrats

to essentially piss themselves as they pray for some kind of well-timed blood clot to happen. I think that's all they've got right now currently, the mainstream. You know who I think is going to solve all this? Chris Cuomo. Oh, yeah. Chris Cuomo. Get Andrew out of here. Get the younger Cuomo.

Yeah, the cooler one. But yeah, they're currently, the Democratic Party is just ever since elected. election day. They have just been chugging terrible advice on being more centrist as a way to fight back and win voters. And it's essentially operating on the same like bullshit idea that like fighting for people's rights forcefully was too woke and not even forcefully. I just didn't even say that. That merely talking about the lack of rights people have in this country was too woke and cost them the election. And they're saying that look, we just need to go back to the status quo talking points in language. So in Politico, they got this memo that was shared that was being circulated amongst Democratic circles from this, you know, centrist Democrat think tank, the third way.

And they're just a terrible organization. And they, their whole thing is like, they put out a list of 45 words, quote, 45 words and phrases they want Democrats to avoid using, alleging the term put a, quote, wall between us and everyday people of all races, religions, and ethnicities. It's a set of words that the third way suggests, quote, people simply do not say, yet they hear them from Democrats. Right. These terms, it's all messaging, man. It's got to be messaging. It can't be the thing that they're saying. It has to be how they're saying it.

Yeah, I just think it's funny that essentially what they're saying is like, look, you can talk about whatever you want. We just think it'd be really make Middle America more open to your ideas if you sprinkled a few slurs in. Yeah, how about that or some F bombs? I mean, a lot of these terms just sound like things that wealthy people who are in control of things are tired of hearing about is what it sounds like. Yeah. And I mean, some of it like stakeholders. I wouldn't mind if people stopped saying stakeholders all the time. But like, you know, I think the only thing my friends are talking about, stakeholders.

That's like business speak. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's like CEO talk. Here are some of the terms, okay. privilege, violence, as in environmental violence, dialoguing. So just like the things that they have, that they're being accused of. Yeah. Triggering othering, microaggression, holding space, body shaming, subverting norms.

What subverting norms? Systems of oppression. Yeah, what are you about that? Dude, cultural appropriation. We got to stop the fuck on. Yeah, yeah. Overton window. Existential threat to the climate democracy economy, radical transparency, stakeholders,

the unhoused food insecurity, housing insecurity, people, person who immigrated, birthing person, cisgender, dead naming, heteronormative, patriarchy, LGBTQIA plus, bipok, allyship, incarcerated people in voluntary confinement. That's just a little sample of what they're talking about. They're like, it sounds like also a lot of these. these things are tied to, you know, societal ills that we're trying to, to, yeah,

I think that that's, like, part of my issue is, like, is it, is it that they don't like the word usage, or are they just, like,

stop talking about LGBTIQ issues and Bipak people, you know? Right. It depends on your flavor. You know what I mean? Like, this is one of the third way executives said, quote,

we are doing our best to get Democrats to talk like normal people and stop talking like they're leading a seminar at Antioch. Right. We think language is one of the, of the central problems we face with, with normie voters, signaling that we are out of touch with how they live, think, and talk. Okay, first of all, they offer no alternate options for how to speak. So what are you fucking saying?

Let's be more direct and actually address the problems that are facing these things. Maybe I could get behind that. Yeah, instead of saying. Just use normal words to do it. Because I do think, like, in some way, in the same way we talk about, like, obscure language being used to, like, make it so that economic shit is, like, confusing and you can't understand what's going on. I do feel like sometimes people use like obscure language to address these things. Yeah. Yeah. Academic things, academic language to address these things that are

actually like problems that they don't plan on addressing. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like basically what they're asking for is instead of saying the unhoused have food insecurity, you should say bums be hungry. Yeah, exactly. It's truly like they like they're basically freaked out by people saying trans people deserve rights and like that we've stopped again calling unhoused people bums and hobos or some shit right um and i look i agree there is something cringe about hearing certain democrats evoke kind of like this language but it's not because like i don't think this is a uh this isn't a vernacular issue okay this is like a fucking authenticity issue because when the people bring stuff up like food insecurity or inequality housing inequality

I think the fact that they're not even putting forward policies that even remotely address these things. Yeah. It just sounds hollow. So more than that, people are like, they say stuff like that's bullshit. People are just tired of hearing them say shit. They don't actually follow through on because plenty of people, if you said, we need, you know, we need to make houses cheaper or address housing insecurity or food. People are like, yeah, that's intersecting with my life. And again, I think the times we're in right now, it calls.

for like a radical departure from the status quo, which again is something this party is fatally committed to. Yeah, I mean, it does feel like there is something to the idea of like being, like, you know, being a little bit more relatable and how that you talk. You know, like, that's why like one of the reasons people love Tim Walls so much is that, like he seems like a dude. But it's like it doesn't feel like the purpose of this is that. It feels like the purpose of this is just like stop talking about trans rights, you know,

like. Yeah. Well, what they're doing is because you hear all the time the talk about quote, the groups is how the establishment democratic party talks about they talk about activism and they say the groups they're getting up our ass about fucking not defending the environment or climate degradation or you know addressing unhoused people it's like oh my gosh they're so noisy so this is basically saying get rid of and these are all the groups the people who are talking about radical transparency in our government that's an activist group there's an activist block talking about systems of oppression

that's group talk cultural appropriate that i'm tired of hearing from people of color about this let's we don't like let's exclude them and that's how this reads it's not about actually addressing any of this shit like with policy because yeah you can i can totally see how you can say let's stop saying housing and security let's say affordable housing or like hey let's make shit cheaper to talk about inflation expensive yeah right and you know like there's a tweet where some centrist Dem was, like, crying over the fact that progressives had, like, a charismatic candidate in Zoran Mamdani. And, like, they're like, we're like, why can't we have someone that captures the public's

imagination like Zoran does, but for centrism? They said that shit, like, they do. Andrew Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo, whenever I think of his ideas, I'm like, wow, thanks for painting a picture, dude. Yeah, wow. Centrism fucking sucks. Yeah, fair. And to that person, the picture is not good.

Yeah. Like, hey, fuck with. Read the fucking room. People aren't following Mumdani. because he's like Riz Khalifa out here just captivating people's, like, it's because he's passionate about talking about fucking inequality. And some of the policy prescriptions, people can actually connect in their brains to how it will affect their own lives,

rather than be like, can we find somebody with the suave charisma of Bernie Sanders? What are you talking about? It's just, he just says the thing that people want to be said. Yeah, yeah. it doesn't matter how he fucking says it he's just saying the thing yeah there's just like there there's even like another quote from one of these think tank people where they're just like

you know like the so much of it is essentially like the way to push back against republicans is to first agree with their flawed premise that they're putting out to debate over agree with that and then debate within that flawed premise or that context that's exactly right actually speaking truth to power. Like, that's their whole thing. So, like, for example, the federal siege of D.C., they're like, well, we don't want people. People are going to get the idea that Democrats don't care about crime if they're against

what Trump is saying, because Trump is saying they're going in because of the crime. It's like, but that's bullshit. That's not why he's there. It should be very easy to point that out. Exactly. I would say that they're shifting the Overton window, but I don't want the Democratic police to arrest me. just so wild too it's like yeah we're going to police speech as a way to yeah right

recapture our voice that's more realistic in the line it's like do they really think too that people who don't live in like metropolitan areas or like larger cities aren't being affected by things like housing insecurity or food insecurity i don't know what either of those things like that's just city talk or some shit joey could you translate that for me uh yeah hobos be hungi Oh, okay. Thank you. The boat, sorry, bows be hung. Oh, that's a Republican thing now, actually. Wait, wait.

Are you running for Senate? Because I could, you got my vote. This guy tells it like it is. It's just like so fucking wild. And again, like, we talk all the time about crime. It's like conceding this idea or seating this idea like crime is just a thing like people of color do in cities rather than being like, you know, this is like the result of having no financial reg. course or stability in your community is like you have to resort to like extra legal options to do things like that that that's one thing but again that's a headier idea to wrap your head around

and i think that's what they're also trying to like avoid generally it's like we can't we can't just stop we can't keep explaining these kinds of things fine but you can still you can still espouse these same values in a way that maybe doesn't sound as academic to just say like stop talking about this at all i think just really sort of reveals that they're whole thing is like we're trying to halt all progress here. We're trying to literally need to go back to like 1988. You've had the charismatic people for centrism. You had, you know, Barack Obama. He was so charismatic. He used the language of the left with like hope and change and, you know, just had the energy of somebody that was actually going to change

things. And then he laundered that energy into fucking, you know, centristism that didn't go anywhere. So now, like, it's, it's like, you know, people who have had, we've had that before and now we're inoculated against it and it doesn't fucking work anymore. Yeah. So, like, that's why there's no more, like, everybody lived through that. There was, like, a major financial crisis. He swept to power with, like, language of, like, hope and change and, like, you know, then proceeded to bail out big banks and now people are like kind of inoculated against that. So that there's your fucking

problem. And now you actually have to do the fucking change. And less on the hope. Yeah, I think I've got an answer to all of this. And that's getting the endorsement of Megan McCain. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Triangulation. Yeah. Guys, if Megan McCain likes it. Yeah. Right? Fuck Megan McCain.

Oh. How hard do you think they're lobbying Barack Obama to run again in the next election? I feel like just to be like, fuck it, all bets are off. You know they're talking about that. If you can do it, why don't you do it? Yeah. I feel like that's probably where we're headed. Like, if they have their way, obviously, I couldn't imagine.

How hard do you think they're lobbying for Joe Biden to run again? He only got one term. He can get another one. Look, he's still saying. I'm just saying with Obama as vice president. Oh, there we go. That way we're looking to the future. Then Obama's your Manchurian candidate. If Biden goes down, that you get Obama again. If Biden goes down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Obama might have had two terms as president. He said zero terms as vice president.

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And we're back. I mean, there's so many reasons this might be one of our last episodes. Gentlemen, it's been a privilege and an honor podcasting with you this evening. Yeah. Now get out our violins. Yeah. Just play like shit because I don't know how to play the violin. I would have been amazing if one of the people was just like,

sorry, I'm freaking out a little bit. Sorry, also I'm not very good. You know this. The fucking ship is really listing. Oh, man. Are we still going to play?

My hands are so fucking sweaty right now. How are you guys playing? Does anyone have an ox cord? Yeah. It would be much easier if I can just play something, some chamber music. But yeah, I only say that, and maybe flippantly, maybe sincerely, because AI, I mean, it sounds like they're gearing up to take over the podcasting world because the Hollywood reporter recently had a piece where they spoke with the people behind Inception AI and they make just a fuck ton of AI podcasts. I'll get to the numbers in a second.

And they try to frame this article like in the beginning. They're like, God, aren't people aren't like networks tired at paying like humans to talk or like paying celebrity? these crazy deals, I do get that. What's the most appointing, what's the most annoying part of podcasts? Having to pay the people who make the thing. That's the worst fucking part. Am I right, ladies? This year is so random.

But anyway, the CEO of this AI company is a former exec from Wondry, another podcast network. And Jack alluded to her, like, Facebook post that she put out to, like, announce this thing. Hey, this is the full part. I'm thrilled to emerge from stealth and share the public debut of Inception Point AI, the company I joined as co-founder and CEO this summer. Oh, my God. Just a, what an opening. Sorry.

I'm thrilled to emerge from stealth and share this. Like, is such a great way to open any work of social media. Yeah. Are you join as a co-founder? I think it's because someone with a fuck ton of money goes, hey, we'd love for you to be the face of this thing to give this thing. credibility. You want to be co-founder and we'll make CEO. Yeah. Because also

like, I guess I guess I haven't heard that phrase emerge from stealth before. But I don't know. God damn. Little wonky use of that word. I'm thrilled to take off my ghost protocol hood and reveal that I'm, that I've joined an

AI podcast company. It goes on as Jack said, we believe that in the near future half of the people on the planet will be AI. That's when my eyes rolled into the back of my head and I go, we're cooked. If there are people sipping the AI

Kool-Aid this hard, I mean, fucking yikes, she goes on to say, we're bringing these people to life and we're bringing the next generation content business model all powered by AI in the process we built what we believe to be the first AI talent management agency with an extensive roster of fake ass people we created with algorithms.

And that's been a thing already too. Yeah, yeah. We've had these voices, these voice models being created and things like that. But now they're really trying to like brand each one and be like, and they do all kinds of stuff. So their whole model is essentially to flood the zone with shit podcasts. But because their overhead is so low, they can make a profit on a laughably small number of listens. This is from the Hollywood Reporter. The company is able to produce each episode for $1 or less, depending on length and complexity.

And attach programmatic advertising to it. This generally means that if about 20 people listen to that episode, the company made a profit on that episode without factoring in overhead. Inception Point, AR has already made more than 5,000 shows across its network and produces more than 3,000 episodes a week. Wow. And it's been up for like a couple of years, which does, again, beg the question of joining as a co-founder two years in. It's a good negotiating tactic, really. I could see this being just like a non-starter, because I do think that the thing people look for from podcasts is humanity.

It's like a thing that they're not just necessarily looking for some quick way to get facts shoveled into their brain. I think a lot of the time, you could read an article if you wanted that or have an article read to you. But I could also see this kind of ruining. things because they're going to be flooding the zone with so much shit. That's the part. That's the part right there. That's the Amazon thing. Yeah.

Right. It's just going to be so many bad podcasts, indistinguishable from our bad podcast. But completely, you know, flooding everything. There will be like five different podcasts. The good news is like this is not how people, like people don't find podcasts by being like, all right, I'm going to go to an inception. and search for a topic that I think I want to know about. And then, you know, people find out about podcasts and then become loyal followers.

Some do, according to them, apparently, because their whole thing set up is cool. Podcast topics are selected with the help of AI based on Google and social media trends. And then the team may launch five different versions of the show with different titles to see what performs the best. The podcasts are often titled after simple SEO search terms. such as whales. Wales. Yeah. It's,

I was, I went to their website. One of our most popular episode is whales. Is whales. Wait. They got whales? Yeah. I got,

I got to their, I went to their website to just look at what their shows are called. And it's shit like this. Diddy verdict. The British Monarchy. Oh, like this one's crazy. AI and the climate crisis.

Are you fucking serious? You're fucking. with AI and thus contributing to the climate crisis? Yeah. Like, what is that one talking about? Assassins, beaches, bourbon, munkers, Betty, Boop, Chaos, Chuck Mangione forever. China, China, China, communism, creatine. There's this one called fucking creatine.

Are these all episodes? Are these episodes of the podcast? No, these are different podcasts. Tell me a one. I'll click on it and we can hear, we can listen to one. I mean, I kind of want to hear socialism. Oh, the socialism? Before they take it down.

Okay, let's see. This is, uh, this is, this is here what they got. Oh, I'm not signing up, you fucking asshole. Yeah, you need to pay for it. That's how they get you. Let's see. Which simply means I never forget a vote, a quote, or a constitutional clause. This is AI.

No ego, no pack money, just pure, relentless recall. Tonight, we're tackling one of the. the most misunderstood, maligned, and frankly butchered concepts in American political discourse. Socialism. Here's my question, though. You can, like, and maybe it will get better to where you really can't, but you can tell that that is AI. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, they're also, they're trying to, they're sort of like trying to be quote unquote ethical where they have the hosts up top say their AI. Yeah. And one of the founders was like, look, dude, I'm not trying to have like, create like these models that people are going to have like deep relationships with because like this they see it as a completely different lane than human hosted podcast but like when you look at it you're like you're doing you're you're talking about subjects that humans currently make podcasts about so I don't know how you're like well no it's not meant to replace that at all like it just we're just

doing the same thing they are at of insane scale and maybe people will fucking listen to it like you know they have the hosts the names are really fucking dumb like for the food podcast i don't know what you're talking about i think these names are totally normal okay what name the host of the food podcast jack all right the food podcast is named uh oh i actually love her i actually follow her on lots of different uh claire delish and then of course my favorite source for gardening info miles Nigel Thistledown. Yes. Thistledown.

And the fucking, like the AI models are like, it sounds like the same ones you hear on TikTok, basically, when people use AI to caption shit. But again, I believe's in nominative determinism. Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like one of the finance one was like penny power or something like that. Just fucking dumb, goofy as shit. But again, I mean, like, I don't know.

Like, will it replace it? I don't know, but I think, like, to your point, Alan, like, it's bad when you have someone putting out 3,000 episodes a week of indistinguishable bullshit because that just makes it harder for anyone who actually wants to podcast to be, to have to like, there's, now it's just all noise. And now how do you find the good ones? That's like a big part of the Amazon's thing is like, it's not that they just are undercutting and they sell the product cheaper.

It's that they've also, like, they've taken away a viable way for people. people to make money. Like opening a small business to like sell goods is a bad business idea now because of Amazon. And so that, yeah, that definitely. And I mean, I will say this, podcasters are truly some of the sickest people in the, in the sphere of the internet or whatever. Like it would be better if they went away is what I think. So they're still going, they're still going to like go after it. But I, it, but I, it, And it is the type of thing where you do just think, like, well, wait, but what if there are people that aren't just that discerning? And they're like, oh, I'm listening to this, you know, AI podcast and they don't really, they don't care one way or the other.

Right. They were about to, on the socialism one, I could hear the hosts leading in, too. So pour yourself a glass of your favorite bourbon or something like that. And I was just like, oh, that is like, there's a certain type of like medium tier podcast that, like, I've accidentally listened to. where that's like the human element is like so pour yourself a favorite glass of bourbon i've got mine right here right and we're going to dig in you know so maybe yeah maybe this is going to hit hit with the people who like listen to whatever those shows are we got a hit we got a hit i mean it's the co-founder of it who i imagine is the actual founder of it or the person who started

he got into this because in during the pandemic he just started like reading like weather reports and shit. Or no, he was reading daily CDC reports. And then a bunch of people started downloading it. Just because he was just reading off a CDC report and he's like,

oh, hey. Then he did like weather reports. Yeah. And he's like, whoa, weather report. And then he was like, there's a quote for him. He's like, you know, talking about how people who are really like

if you have crazy allergies, you look at like the pollen report and stuff. He said, quote, we might make a pollen podcast and maybe only 50 people listen to. But I'm already at unit profitability on that. So then maybe I can make 500 pollen report podcasts. Like these people don't,

this is what happens when people who have never made a fucking thing in their life. Why have we never once on the, on the many, many hours of the show used the phrase unit profitability? The fuck does that even mean? What a cool and soulful term. Yeah, yeah. That founder,

and you know he is the actual founder because his name is pod founderman. And so, yeah. Oh, of the Cincinnati Foundermans. Yes, of the Cincinnati Foundermans. Formerly of Louisville, Kentucky. All right. So that sucks. But there is some light at the end of the tunnel because Kamala Harris has announced her memoir.

A new memoir. A new memoir. It's coming. I guess she hasn't announced it. She announced it a long time ago. It's coming. It's called 170. So it's like about the 107 days that she ran for president.

Do you guys remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We all realized like Biden was bad. And then he, we finally like everybody just pressured him enough into leaving the race. And then she had 107 days to run for president and like started with a spark and had like a couple good ideas. And then those were immediately like replaced by terrible shit by the Democratic Party. had a chance their advisors yeah she like had ideas about like greedflation and calling the democratic

or the republican party weird and they're like no no no no no no shut the why don't you shut the fuck up uh yeah here here here kiss uh kiss dick cheney's daughter right now kiss her on stage that's gonna work so yeah she's she's doing some book tours not at bookstores but uh on a live speaking to our major venues, some tickets going for more than $400, not from like a reseller. That's the official price for a platinum ticket. What a fucking griff, man. That's fucking amazing. Just like, man, that was a shitty presidential campaign, huh?

You want to hear me talk about it for $400? Yeah. Yeah, I do. I do. I do. I do. The excerpts are pretty telling, I'd say. Presumably, like, people are looking for some tea spillout.

And, like, she just really published an excerpt in the Atlantic that defends Biden to some extent, claiming that there was no cover-up concerning his mental decline. Okay. Now, that's where you lost me, Kamala. Come on, no. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's... You saw some shit.

Also, it would kind of implicate her if there were some... Yeah, right. Yeah. In a way, there wasn't really a cover-up because literally the entire country did see it. Uh-oh. That's true. All sides of every, like, there were, like, a few people that tried to deny it. But, like, we just chose not to answer your question.

Right, right. She also said, and this is the refrain from the Biden side, his debate cluster fuck wasn't incapacity. It was just tiredness owing to recent trips. And I think, and then add in from Hunter Biden a little bit of Ambien sprinkled in. so he was it wasn't incapacity he's just at an age where he was incapacitated by being a little bit tired from traveling he was he was taking a trip down memory lane that's right but also remember that that thing from hunter biden who's like oh he was on ambient and then like they looked at the schedule like bro he was he was traveled like a week before like a week solidly before that but

again like you're saying like that's not good if just if traveling makes you all tired like that yeah yeah and you want to be covered out from a trip like a week later like that's that's not a good sign that's like me i'm tuckered out from a trip a week later but like i don't want to be president i'd be so bad at being present i'd be so fucking sleepy what would you do if putton comes up to you and says head or gut jack i cry i cry You guys are so mean to me. My superpower, crying my way out of things. Well into my 40s.

It would be interesting that, like, the American president would a completely different strategy from past American leaders, openly sobbing pathetically as a way to get, as a way to get deals. Just, like, stop, like, invading them. Like, what the hell? All right. Jesus, stop fucking crying, man. My God, you're going to get snod on my suit. You promise. Taft?

President Taft, big crier. Big cry. Yeah. But, yeah, there are other things, too, where she's, like, where she is sort of like, look, there are a lot of times the right-wing media was attacking me, and they just didn't say shit. The White House didn't have my back at fucking all. That is, and you're like, okay.

Absolutely accurate. Like, the energy coming out of the Biden camp during her run for president was like, I don't know for energy. Not so easy to have a candidate who doesn't suck shit, huh? Like, you know what I mean? Like, they were just like praying she was, you got a sense that at least a large part of them. Maybe there were two wolves inside of them and one was rooting for her. But another was definitely hoping to see her fail and be vindicated for thinking that they had a better shot than her.

Yeah. Yeah. There is another thing that she said, too, quote, it's Joe and Jill's decision. We all said that, like a monster. as if we'd all been hypnotized. The stakes were simply too high. This wasn't a choice that should have, she should have been left to an individual's ego

and individual's ambition. It should have been more than a personal decision. Yeah, okay. I don't know. I guess like there's really nothing in here that isn't, that's like shocking to me. I'm like, yeah,

of course they hung you out to dry. I mean, this part, which I think we knew already worse. I often learned that the president's staff was adding fuel to negative narratives that sprang up around me. One narrative that took a stubborn hold was that I had a chaos.

office and unusually high staff turnover during my first year as vice president. I do remember that coming at a pretty critical point. Yeah. And like that wasn't coming. Like they wouldn't have posted that if that was coming from like J.D. Vance. You know what I mean? Like that was coming from someone inside the administration. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So that's fucked up. A lot of the two, it's like the Biden cognitive whatever cover up, this about how his team was mean to her all of it just reads is like the democratic party has no idea what the fuck it's doing and like if if this is what like and i don't know i i to me she feels done like i feel like i feel like as like a populace we're done with her she also i think feels done like i don't know if she would run again but if she does if she does you know

maybe, but like, I'm just like, if this is what we're still talking about, it's like, we're fucked. But we're litigating. Yeah, the obvious, like, why did we lose? Like, guys, is it really that much of a mystery to you? Right. I think that's the only reason this story is of value is just to further drive nails into the coffin of the Democratic Party.

Right. Just like, guys, look how bad it was behind the scenes. Like, we all thought that they had a chance because we were hoping they had a chance. Behind the scenes, they were blowing it, you know? It's a capitalist clown show, and they don't know, they don't realize how their devotion to capitalism and the status quo was really its whole undoing. And now it's now that I, now seeing the quotes from the Biden administration people that are like giving quotes in the aftermath of this excerpt, I'm like, now I believe everything she says. Like one person said, quote, Vice President Harris was simply not good at the job. She had basically zero substantive role in any of the administration's key work streams,

and instead would just dive bomb in for stilted photo ops that expressed how out of depth she was. Wow. Holy shit, dude. That's what they're saying now the day after this came out. President Biden was not the reason. You think we're mean? Actually, you're fucking stupid. Yeah, you're actually fucking dumb. It's not refuting what we're saying at all.

Yeah, it's the same thing. Nobody likes you, but no one's going to tell you that to your face. but nobody actually likes you. They go on to say, quote, President Biden was not the reason she struggled in officer tanked her 2019 presidential campaign or lost the 2024 campaign

for that matter. The independent variable there is the vice president, not Biden or his aides. Damn, son. And you're like, that's like the best I've seen them at being like critical

and having a backbone. They can't, they couldn't do that against Trump. They couldn't, yeah, it's just, but there's other quotes too that back what she says. another aide or staffer who spoke in this one article, I think, let me just make sure it was it in the New Republic, said that, quote, we all know that the Biden folks treated

her and her team like shit. We never thought she would actually say anything. Staffers across a range of ages and positions that I'm talking to are proud of her. Yeah. So there's clearly like, I mean, again, it just shows a very divided administration. And I think that was really probably became clear as Biden just sat on his hands after October 7th, too. Right. So, yeah, we will see where if this, if this harms her career, because you have other people being like, well, she just nuked her career. Really?

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I mean, like the type of people who say that who are like, play it safe politically always have proven that they have some of the worst instincts in modern politics. I mean, like, think about like Anthony Wiener. You know what I mean? Who went to prison? Like,

he's even trying to get back in. Yeah. You know, so it takes a lot to get it through to these people that it's like, hey, maybe you're cooked. Yeah. I don't think so.

I don't know. If only they had like some blueprint of a path forward that had a lot of public support, like a New York mayoral candidate who was dominant and extremely popular that they've chosen to completely ignore and try and fuck over. Well, it's like the thing where it's like, it's like say like the like the,

Like the Democrats are like big Pepsi people. And they're like, no, it's Pepsi forever. I'm like, everyone likes Coke. And like, no, no. It's Pepsi. It's like, look at the fucking numbers, man. Nobody's drinking Pepsi. Numbers are tainted.

And like they can't even fucking admit it. They're just like, fuck, fuck. Like, no, none of them are backing Zorn. Like, what the fuck is going on? That, I mean, again, it's just like, I, I, I've just never felt more done with the Democratic Party as a whole. I'm just like, I don't know what you want for me. I want nothing from you guys, I guess. Yeah.

This is just crazy. Yeah. Seems bad. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to miles. He needs your validation, folks.

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