The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 406 (Best of 11/3/25-11/7/25)

Episode Date: November 9, 2025

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 413 (11/3/25-11/7/25)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:16 weekly zeitgeist uh these are some of our favorite segments from this week all edited together into one non-stop infotainment laugh stravaganza. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our very favorite guests, an artist and creator of music
Starting point is 00:02:44 that's been described as hypnagogic power violence. She just dropped, Kill Yourself, Help Book, kissing booth, two songs off her upcoming album. crisis acting out next year. Please welcome to the show. It's Janie Danger! Jainer! How's it going? Am I supposed to be
Starting point is 00:03:04 quiet in the beginning part and just wait for the intro? You're supposed to be yourself. I remember the very first time I did this. I like said something before you guys had introduced me. I felt bad. And there was just dead silence and I gasped. Yeah. I felt like I'm around like who's this
Starting point is 00:03:20 bitch, this energy. Who's trying to riff early in the free show? no riffing save it keep the riffs in your pocket lady Victor I thought you told her no riffing Close your eyes So you're introduced
Starting point is 00:03:31 Close your eyes Wow A riffless podcast Wow It's like an angel without wings Yeah that's the daily I think from the New York Times How have you guys been
Starting point is 00:03:41 It's been a second Since I've been good Been all right been all right Been all right Good good Are you guys celebrate Happy about the Dodgers You guys look a little
Starting point is 00:03:49 You know it's bittersweet I Oh shut up It was pretty sweet No, no, more so because the team fucking, like the owners, like this, the ownership of the team is fucking backwards. They're like one of the most evil teams of all time. Yeah, exactly. They're like, yeah, we're invested in for-profit prisons and turning a blind eye to ice goons.
Starting point is 00:04:09 But either way, like it is, it is wild to just see because, you know, like every city, any city that's been invaded by ice goons, you'd just any moment that brings people together, like, in a joyful way, like, we're going to take it. We'll take it. absolutely yeah i mean they'll be happy about it until isa deport show hey otani right yeah right exactly god oh gosh yeah owners can't do anything about that think about that for a second you can you imagine the blue jays fans been like i'd like to report what the fuck his name is yoshinobu yamamoto he doesn't speak in english she's been doing gambling and illegal gambling and he doesn't speak english she's like hold on hold on illegal gambling The FBI is here for this.
Starting point is 00:04:51 If it's people of color and illegal gambling, and illegal gambling, yeah. Hates our country. Hasn't even learned the language yet, I'm just saying. It's so funny, because you watch him in the dugout and you're like, this motherfucker knows English. Oh, yeah, yeah, he does. Like, he's like cutting it up with them and stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I don't want to talk to these people to the media. It's also like a Japanese thing to like not want to speak your whatever, like in development English. Like, it's just more comfortable speaking as you can with a translator too. Yeah, I'm going to come out in two seasons and be like, hey, my name's Shohei Otani, you know, just like, Hey, showyotony, yeah, right. Yeah, just like, wait, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:05:26 Is it like, hey, my name's fully formed. Yeah. Sorry. He actually has a Midwestern accent for some reason. Yeah. Hey, raised in Tokyo, don't you know? Don't you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:38 So we're up there in Tokyo then. Right off the Yamunote line. John, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about. who you are. This is meandering, but you'll understand. I found a guy on Instagram which explains where plants and vegetables came from. And as a result, I did a pumpkin deep dive last night at about 11.45 p.m. That as the father of a child was inadvised, because it was an hour and a half long. But are you aware of the journey humanity has had with the pumpkin? No. Did it like start out looking totally different? It's more like we used to eat it. We used to
Starting point is 00:06:16 like it's like it grows everywhere it's one of those things where it's like and if it not for the pumpkin society never would have taken place like in the same way of like if they had not discovered coffee could have we would we have had the industrial revolution you look at like the caloric intake from pumpkin at different times and you're like 90% of our caloric intake was pumpkin oh my god and then you're like and now what do we do at it once a year we pretend that they're a face and then some teenagers smash them yeah you're like I'm like, yep, that tracks for this whole group. I just had to throw away my jack-o-lanterns from Halloween because they were fucked up. They were melting, probably. They were melting, like, they were rotting, and they also had, like, a mold growing on them so fast that I was like, who touched this? Like, when we were carving this, whose hands were that dirty? Once you scrape that out, though, the clock is ticking for a punk. And once you open it up, oh, man.
Starting point is 00:07:16 As an official pumpkin Pete, I can explain. They rot from the inside out. So as we gut them for our delicious, delightful Halloween fun, we're basically just we're starting the clock on it. Yeah, we're starting the clock. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's the end of the movie, it's the end of the movie saw one.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And we're turning to them and going, good look, getting out of here, whatever he says, and then throwing the keys in the bathroom. Right, right, right. His famous line, good luck getting out of here. But I mean, listen, I'll be totally honest by the end of that movie, I was so freaked down. I wasn't even paying attention. I was just like, get me out of here. I think I've, I've done some things. He's going to saw me. Right. Yeah. I mean, I like some pumpkin soup. I like some pumpkin pie. I do, I do enjoy those. Pumpkin seeds. We roasted ours.
Starting point is 00:08:03 We roasted ours, too, and they have remained untouched since we roasted them. We season the fuck out of them. And I'm like, girl, this is it. Yeah, I love it. I'm going to say this. I don't think they love it. I don't think anyone actually likes pumpkin seeds. I think we just like remembering being a child because I think they are a terrible snack that are not good. If you season them well, we were like season them, get them greasy. So they kind of like fry a little bit, to give them the texture. Because normally like they just break into shards and you're like, I'm fucking up the inside of my mouth. But if you roast it. There's a middle. You didn't eat the inside. You just ate the whole thing. I also just want to say this. The whole thing of like, well, if you season it
Starting point is 00:08:42 right, it's really delicious. That's true of literally everything. You put enough olive oil and salt on fentanyl and you're going to be like not that fentanyl doesn't sell itself but you know what I'm saying it just I feel like that's a point for me the fentanyl lollipops actually they don't need any seasoning they're pretty fine to be a deep fried fentanylollipops the number one delicacy at the Idaho category yeah what's something you think's underrated I I really like this is something that people already think is at least pretty good but I really like the new album by clips this year is phenomenal
Starting point is 00:09:14 very very good music oh my god yeah you're you're re-up gang Alex I didn't know that oh my it's fun and like they're just there's just excellent rappers and I really have no life connection to cooking cocaine in Virginia Beach but they do a great job of telling the stories about it and getting other themes going you know that's the point clips yeah yeah everyone thinking they were cooking cracked on Pyrex in Virginia Beach that's the power of their music that's when their first album, I thought I was selling crack cocaine in a tennis ball. I wasn't. I was at a private Catholic high school. Now, is the tennis ball actually, were they using a tennis ball or was it just a tennis ball sized bag? No, the tennis ball is how you, that's how you move the work across
Starting point is 00:10:00 the street. They thought we was playing catch. No, there was a there was drugs in there. So it's like, oh, here, catch the ball. But really, they said, hey, let me get that. Then you take the cash. So you cut it? Yeah, the drugs are the size. Seal it back up. You didn't have to. One little, like, arts and crafts thing. Yeah, baby. Yeah. Yeah. What's your favorite, what's your favorite track on the new Clips album?
Starting point is 00:10:22 Mike Tyson Blow to the Face is really good. Oh, yeah. And, but I feel like, like, the very first track is, like, very emotional. Oh. His dad's passing and everything. Yeah. And, like, there's a real range on it. I know a sentence ago made it sound like they only talk about cocaine, but there's a lot going on.
Starting point is 00:10:39 It's really nice. They love their dad. Their dad sounded like a great guy. Yeah. It's really tragic. Very few rock songs about, like, how good your dad was. Yeah, yeah, truly. It's like, yeah, pops bounced on old, you know, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah, yeah, it's, they're a great album with John Legend, you know. Because also, like, growing up, I feel like I was told that rap is not good and country is not good. And then adulthood has been a lot of discovering how good both of those are. Because, like, there's a lot of good country music also about you disappointed your parents and you're just trying to live. Like Merle Haggard, this thing's mama tried. about disappointing his mom. And, you know, they just really capture it really emotionally and then also do hardcore songs about how they're kicking ass all the time.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. Wow. I love it. You know who else likes the clips? The Pope. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Didn't they perform it at the Vatican? I don't know. Yeah, that was wild. Did you see that? It was a personal request by the Pope. Yeah. He's like, I'm re-up game. He's like, make sure stove God cooks is also here.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I want to hear FICO. Will Smith. Jacket, boy, I cook it till they inside out. I love that. I love a fresh prince jacket. I cook him till they inside out. Yeah, that's, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I think that was a, because if you should check that one out, Alex, because I think they did birds don't sing with like an orchestra at the Vatican. At the Vatican. Yeah. Oh, like, this is an amazing tip. Yeah. And it's like this Pope, the Chicago Pope. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:05 This happened like two months ago. I've always thought of you as the Pope of Chicago, but as the Chicago Pope. but that's he's humble he's another thing you two have in common yeah he the the pope attended game one of the 2005 world series and is there is footage of him in the actual like fox or whatever telecast watching bobby jenks try to close out game one and terrified it won't work out making the face that i made in our basement at home like it's it's the best amazing he just looked like some guy like he was just the pictures of of him at that game. He's just like there with like his brother like they're eating hot dogs. Funny. Funny. What is something like do you think's overrated? Uh, marsupials. I have been digging into them and it seems like the pouch is, I would say, more of a concern. So you're literally digging into a marsupials pouch? Sure, sure, sure, sure. So yeah, there's the, uh, there's a Stop and Frisk in Australia, where it only applies to the pockets on the front of these beasts.
Starting point is 00:13:17 But, no, I think that it's doing a lot of work for their PR and making them sound more interesting than they are with the pockets. I don't think a kangaroo really, if you get past the fact that they let these things hang out in their pouches, are that interesting of an animal. And I think the same goes for, I mean, like, possums are a disaster. or, like, there's just so many animals. Wombats are cute on their own. No one mentions the pouch for them. So I just think that the marsupials are maybe... It's a crutch for, like, the...
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't have to be your whole personality, I guess, is my point, where you can just have one and not bring it up. I would prefer if they'd stop bringing it up. I think it's actually what the issue is. I personally find kangaroos to be, like, shot... You know, if you can just, like, clear your mind of all knowledge that you've ever learned and then, like, look at the world with fresh eyes.
Starting point is 00:14:07 like the fact that there are deer-sized rabbit things that just jump around like huge and will beat the shit out of you and not to mention have a little pouch that they carry their babies in I find it pretty amazing but you you say fuck all that I would say upsetting yeah I think it's because your parents forced you to leave the house when you're 18 probably right right my mom was like you say as long as you want honey This is a marsupial pouch, you know. And I say, until then, they made me sleep in the mailbox in front of the couch or at front of the house, which I believe in front of the couch. And our mailbox was in our living room. It's a big mailbox. What kind of mailbox you got there? Slept on top of it, like Snoopy, just eyes to the stars. One question I've had that I think I've asked on this and maybe had answered and forgot the answer.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Marsupials are the pouch dry? Or are the pouch like the inside of a mouth? Teets are in there, but, you know, from what I understand, it's... If I had a pouch, it would be disgusting. Like, if I had a pouch on my body? Like, what do you keep in there? Yeah, that's the... Right.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I believe there are, uh, and you do ask this constantly, Jack, and it's... And I was... I refused to... I asked the question and I refuse to learn the answer. You go to... You just go, hey, hey, pz, pz, pz, is it wet in there? You're like, so you're talking to the kangaroos? I just sorry, I needed to know.
Starting point is 00:15:35 The baby, the baby. Shh, sh shh, shh. Is it like wet or dry in there? Yeah. All right. No, my. I believe they can nurse in there.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I believe. It is. It's got to be a little moist in there. If there's spillage, of course, and there will be spillage, especially if that thing's hopping around. Imagine trying to suckle from a teat as your mother bounces up and down. Right. Sounds like a fucking nightmare.
Starting point is 00:16:00 You know? Blake, you just killed yourself with that fucking juggled. Imagine trying to seek. Imagine trying to suck. from a teat as your mom bounces upside down. Yeah, it's broadly. That's what Blake wants you to imagine. Fold of skin with a single opening that covers the teats inside the pouch, the blind
Starting point is 00:16:16 offspring attaches itself to one of the mother's teeth and remains attached for as long as it takes to grow and to develop to a juvenile stage. Yeah. So, yeah, marsupials are awesome. I find them very interesting. Like, I also think they're like kind of an alternate, like, in the world of, you know, like sort of parallel evolution, where they like sort of evolve. separately on that Godforsaken continent down there,
Starting point is 00:16:41 but they, like, kind of look the same, except they got, like, a weird little, like, feature, you know? Like, some of the, like, we don't have our own version of kangaroos, obviously, but, you know, a lot of the marsupials are, like, similar to what we've got up here, but just completely different and, like, got that way all on their own just by reacting to the elements, which I find very interesting. Well, Australia has kangaroos, and we have fraud. So it's essentially a one-to-one.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Make them fights, right. Yeah, yeah, exactly. All right. Well, thanks for that, Blake. We're going to say, my pleasure. And sorry to the audience for giving out completely incorrect information about animals right now. Well, I'm mad. Kangaroo are a frog?
Starting point is 00:17:26 I'm a little emotional. Kangaroo is frog. Is it wet in there? We'll be right back. Is it wet in there, though? Like, did we get an answer? around that? I mean, based on the pictures, it's not really. Not really. I mean, it's like dry. I mean, I got something that says a kangaroo pouch
Starting point is 00:17:45 is often damp, slimy, and sometimes smelly due to a mix of milk, saliva, waste from the Joey, and natural skin oil. Yeah, that's what I thought. That's what, and that's what I thought. Hit us up at waste from the joey.com slash TDZ. Oh, she'd a bit of Waste from the Jory. On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night. Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Wally, a double board certified physician. And I'm Hurricane Dibolu, a comedian and someone who once Googled, Do I have scurvy at 3 a.m?
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Starting point is 00:21:56 Yeah, so I'm glad I used that one because it ties in with my overrated one. And this is a theme that's just been coming back a lot. especially over like our troubles and trips with like touring and everything but being pathetic is overrated being nihilistic is overrated being overly cynical is overrated and I'm never going to be the type of person who's going to be like oh have you just tried being happy right I think that the put a smile on your face yeah I think the I don't know I think the the tendency to catastrophize things
Starting point is 00:22:35 is like, I don't know. I think it's kind of insincere in a sense. And that's just something I'm just really, I'm just really over. Like, I need everyone to get a lot more sincere like right fucking now. And I think that
Starting point is 00:22:53 this kind of like bitterness, this like failure to like truly engage with anything you like or to just kind of be this shielded by irony, like, cynic is, it's pathetic and it's disgusting to me. And I think it's so overrated, and I think in the age of, like, the modern internet culture we exist and, like, everyone's so afraid to embrace things that they like or speak up for things that they think are wrong or, I don't know. It's just, I understand that everyone feels like they have, like, this, like, overly critical lens on them. and everyone feels like more exposed than normal, but like, bitch, like, honey, expose yourself, diva.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Let's get naked together. Let's be out in the sun in front of God. Let's be sincere. Now you got me when you said in front of God. That's, it's something I can relate to. That, yeah, I heard it. I heard that. I heard that.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I mean, yeah, I totally get that about the sort of protecting your ego by being so rabidly cynical about things. It's like, well, actually, if I'm cynical about everything, then, like, I'll never be vulnerable through that. Yeah, I think that's... It's a pose that you're, you're, like, responding discomfort by being like, well, actually, it doesn't bother me anymore because I've accepted it. And I think actually sucks, too.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Yeah. No, you just got to keep feeling the discomfort. And there's the opposite end of that, too, where someone, like, really, really likes something. But, like, when you ask them about it, they were like, you know, that's okay. Because they're, like, afraid to, like, embrace. Like, see, this is why I've grown to have a lot more respect for people like furries or like mega weaves and stuff. It's like, it's not my thing, but the fact that you're so into this like inherently kind of silly thing is awesome.
Starting point is 00:24:42 It's awesome. Like, I think that's great. Like, like, I don't know. I think that more people need to be less afraid to. Well, I'm actually like sincerely just really into Zen and the NFL. That's five. That's five. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:57 And so, yeah, I'm out here naked in the sun, too. Yeah, I'm caught. Yeah, I'm just, I guess taking three zins in your upper lip and then doing sports gambling all night. It's okay. Whatever, I guess. It's like, bro, if that's what you do, that's awesome. Tell me. Just a horse shoe is in.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Let's go. Like, I'm here for you, brother. Banging out some parlays. We'll get to parlay corner in a little bit brought to you by Draft Kings. Is that the one? But, yeah, draft king. What's the one where you can bet on? like anything.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Polymarket. Polymarket. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. I mean, polymarket is trending in an interesting direction. Speaking of our first story.
Starting point is 00:25:37 What's the market? A little bit of a, the polymarket has Cuomo in the high single digits. So. Does I mean nine? Yeah, like in that range as of end of last week. I haven't checked my polymarket.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Polymarket sounds like, it sounds like what you would do if you're like, like a trans girl that just moved to Seattle. And you're like, yeah, I'm kind of in the polly market. There you go. What are, yeah, so what are the polls? Wait, what do you mean by, what is the high single? What I mean?
Starting point is 00:26:09 Like, in terms of how close he is now? So, yeah, his chance of winning trended up to, I think, nine or eight last week. So people, you know, there was an article where someone was like, if this keeps up, like, this is a dead heat by Tuesday. That was the one where someone was like, my baby doubled in size since it was, since its birth. Because this keeps up, he will be three billion pounds by the time he's an adult. Zoron's odds are at 91% on Polly Marco.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Yeah, I know. So I was going to say, so it blit, there was a little bit of a Cuomo, we'll call it a surge, because we have to, because the mainstream media needs a story here. It did kind of go back down. And so now Zoron's at 91% and Cuomo's at 7.8%. but everybody wants this story so bad they just like they're willing it to be true the zoron's about to lose in a shocking today the new york postis potis said andrew quomo would beat zoran momdani and head-to-head race for nyc mayor from according to
Starting point is 00:27:16 bombshell pole yeah there's a lot of bombshells some survey you've never heard of uh cool cool i mean maybe put that on your vision board Maybe you can manifest it, but it looks like my sources point to know. Yeah. As long as people turn out. We've been working the poles of the magic eight ball, and it keeps telling us that... Doesn't look good. Doesn't look good for Cuomo.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Yeah, so the New York Post, another angle that the people are trying who... They're going Atlas shrugged on that ass. Ein ronde. I'm never going to pronounce like that. That's so much scarier. Well, it is pronounced. I mean. No, that makes sense. Yeah, it does. I think probably it was
Starting point is 00:28:00 her name was Anne and she was like, could we actually go with my preferred pronunciation? Ayn! So they're being like, look, we're the rich people and we're going to leave this fucking city if you guys don't elect Cuomo.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Yeah, exactly. That's the childish threat of, I will leave and I'm going to take all my toys with me if you don't do what I want to. Sure. There is It says, according to the post, it says around 765,000 people of the 8.4 million residents who call New York City home are preparing to leave, with about 9% of New Yorkers sharing that they would, quote, definitely leave the city if Momdani is elected the 111th mayor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now are you convinced, Janie?
Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah. No. They said definitely. Dude, they said definitely. If those residents were to leave, it would be equal to the population of D.C. Las Vegas or Seattle, essentially. Yeah, go. I mean, honestly, go ahead. You know, if you want a self-rapture out of New York City.
Starting point is 00:29:03 That would be so many people leaving. Like, that is an exodus. I would move to New York. I think I would move to New York. Like, right away, I'm a part of the Wall Street Diaspora. Yeah. But, like, do you, there's a period in, for like, three days around Thanksgiving, when L.A., just, like, all the people leave L.A.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Yeah, a lot of the transplants go back to, like, where they moved from. Yeah, and it becomes the nicest place. Like, you could just, like, drive places without being, like, this might take me an hour and a half, or it might take me 15 minutes, and there's literally no way to tell. It took seven minutes. But, yeah, it's just, it's how city should be.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I'm like, New York is a place that, like, had congestion pricing. to like try and make it like Miles you and I sat in a cab for 45 minutes going three blocks in New York City yeah like the last time we're there together should have walked. Yeah we could have we watched
Starting point is 00:30:08 people walking but we you know we had business to do. Yeah yeah. I remember last time in New York like we had gotten like how we landed in Newark so it was already like a journey the end of the city but like we were not too
Starting point is 00:30:25 far from our friend's apartment in Bushwick, but we needed the sea train to come, and we were just down there waiting for it to come for, like, hours. And I don't live in New York, so I didn't realize that sometimes the trains just don't want to go that day.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Like, sometimes they're just like, I'm having a mental health day. And they just don't want to show up. So it took, like, it was like a $50 cab ride to get there, which was awesome. It's really, I just, thread is so funny to me like because it's like yeah go ahead leave one of the best cities in the country for yeah fort lauderdale like where and i feel like if you're so incensed by a candidate
Starting point is 00:31:06 running on the most basic shit like straightforward shit like affordability we're not even talking like capital s socialism here like then go on then you know have your time and i'm not one of those people who's like who thinks that mom donnie can't do anything get we can't do a lot of the things he's saying because he's just a mayor. I think he can probably do more than like people would think. Some of it. Some of it maybe. But I'm I'm not sure he can
Starting point is 00:31:34 like really make their taxes go up in a substantial way. Unless I'm wrong about that. Unless there's something I'm missing. Like I feel like that would be a something above his purview. Well, it would be called tithing in his caliphate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. No, it's a 50% to. yeah right but yeah it's it's all scared i mean they billionaires are very scared and the media which really like answers them are trying everything they're making it like neck and neck they're making it uh an existential threat to the city and it's uh it could be i mean i'd imagine it's people who are so they just they just believe that he is there to like do some kind of new holocaust against the jewish people of new york or something
Starting point is 00:32:24 plus the billionaires. I think it's the billionaires. I really think it's just people being like he's going to do stuff that is going to be scary for a capital. I think it's also, I mean, like with when a lot of like there's leftist victories happen, it's not always so much what they're going to do with their election win
Starting point is 00:32:45 and more so what that win signifies for other people in the country. and across the world where it's like, oh, we can win, we can do things, we can affect change, when they want you to be like, no, just you can't do shit, shut up. You can vote for a Democrat who can do nothing, essentially. And things might not get worse. Maybe they do.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I don't know, but that's the most you can do. And you can't do anything more than that. I still don't know if Schumer is endorsed. Like, on, I think on Friday, he was like, I'm still talking to Mom Dani. Like, about what at this point? Jeffries did, right? Maybe. I mean, I think the team Jeffrey's dead kind of. I have a trying to bore him to death so that he never takes office. Yeah, I don't think I'm not as though. I do think it's going to be extremely hard. Like, I think the forces of capital are going to be extremely sore losers on this one and make his job very difficult. But I think in terms of, you know, first of all, I think nobody thought he had a chance at getting the nomination, let alone getting elected. So, you know, with the power of like a whole. a lot of people who this is just common sense good for the media is going to be like he's failing
Starting point is 00:34:00 and you know telling that story the whole time but if he can find a way like we talked about how shine bomb in mexico like the first thing that she did was like start holding a every morning two hour press conference that was just like live streamed and just answered people's questions just straight like talking directly to the people like there needs to be something that where he's able to like talk to people about what he's doing that's not filtered through whatever the new york post and even the new york times want to get out there but you know it's not it's not going to be easy well he's incredibly good at talking guy fucking loves to talk yeah he's very telegenic just like with l.a right like you have a city council that's already pretty entrenched
Starting point is 00:34:44 with how they do business so like getting that put into i think the other part is communicating enough that people begin to put pressure on their city council members to right figure out how they're going liver. But I don't know. This Cuomo thing, though, he's talking about how much Mamdani smiles now. He said, I mean, all these things that people... Wait, that's what they made fun of. Yeah. They made fun of it on Saturday Night Live. Yeah. And so Cuomo was like, exactly, fuck this guy. He smiles. And so he, uh, he was like, yeah, you know, all these things that people think Mom Donnie could do, like, uh, you know, have grocery stores and like lower prices. He would just smile and they'd believe him. Like, he's like some sort of.
Starting point is 00:35:24 sort of fucking magician or, you know, hypnotists. It kind of reminds me of when Trump was making fun of Kamala's laugh. Right. She's always lost. She speaks in song. Just funny. So, yeah, Janie, Hakeem Jeffries endorses Bamdani. And then he goes on CNN and has asked moments later, is the, is Mamdani the future of the Democratic Party?
Starting point is 00:35:48 This is what he said, quote, no, the lightning rod in terms of what's going to impact the ability of either. side to win control of the house or hold control in 2026 is going to be the failure of Republicans to actually deliver on the promises that they have made and to actively make life worse for everyday Americans. Fucking just the same tired ass playbook again, they're going to,
Starting point is 00:36:09 they're doing a look at what they're doing. They're not even doing nothing. Full for me. Yeah. God. Good fucking luck. All right. We do have to talk about the new it couple that's taking the world by storm. Do you say new ick couple? I think that. It's being called
Starting point is 00:36:26 the hug heard around the world by us just now. Just now, yeah. It's, uh, yeah, J.D. Vance and Erica Kirk. I mean, she was like, I miss my husband, but, and nobody can ever replace him, but.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Here, look, just listen. Let's just listen. Yeah, so at a turning point USA event, like where, again, J.D. Vance was brought out to play the role of Charlie Kirk and do the debating of people from the stage. She brings, she's about to introduce him and her whole thing is like you know I just want to say this is an amazing person yeah and his wife too
Starting point is 00:36:58 sure sure she's cool but no one can replace him so here it is I just I'll play the I think she's about to say and his wife because they're talking about how much the advances have done for Erica Kirk since Charlie Kirk was killed they
Starting point is 00:37:13 are incredible oh she's wearing the shirt no one will ever replace my husband. No. But I do see some similarities of my husband in J.D. And Vice President J.D. Vance. I do.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And that's why I am so blessed to be able to introduce him tonight. He's an amazing man. So please help me welcome to the stage. Vice President J.D. Vance. So she just hit us with the nobody. Nobody's ever going to replace him. But I see some similarities. That is a crazy thing to say
Starting point is 00:37:53 It is a wild thing to say A widow to say No one can replace my husband Except for this guy Two months ago Two months ago? Yeah Like here's and again
Starting point is 00:38:05 This is the thing that's been getting A lot of attention So he comes out and this is like The hug that they share That go out She'd give a little hair touch He's holding that waist He says Shorty
Starting point is 00:38:15 Let me grab you by the waist Okay The hug on its own Did not I was not like What the fuck but in context of that speech and then really the weirdest thing
Starting point is 00:38:27 as was referenced in my AKA is that at this same conference maybe even earlier before that I think it's after this it would be after because she introduces him yeah because she comes out and then he starts speaking and then he hits us with this take yeah that
Starting point is 00:38:43 so she could have said just as easily liked but he's someone who embodies what Charlie Kirk believes or whatever. I think there's a way to phrase that that's not as there's a frisone of
Starting point is 00:38:59 eroticism there. That is a thing, like, I just remember, like, there were a lot of stories in the aftermath of 9-11 where, like, the fellow firefighters who, of, like, people
Starting point is 00:39:11 who, like, firefighters who died in 9-11, like, there were, a lot of times they would, like, leave their wife for the wives of the fallen firefighters, Like, there's a thing that happens when, like, you're, when somebody's getting a lot of attention from being a, you know, the widow of someone who's life is tragically cut short, and then, like, you are, like, publicly getting a lot of positive attention for being the shoulder that they lean on. But anyways, around this time, at this same event, Judy Vance, had this to say.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Yeah, quote, my wife, as I said at the TPUS is the most amazing. blessing I have in my life. She herself encouraged me to re-engage with my faith many years ago. She's not a Christian and has no plans to convert, but like many people in an interfaith marriage or any interfaith relationship, I hope she may one day see things as I do. Regardless, I'll continue to love and support her and talk to her about faith and life and everything else because she's my wife. Similar format, similar structure to the previous statement about, look, Nobody can replace Charlie. But, but.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And I just say one thing. Yeah. I don't buy for a second, aside from maybe making, like, photo op stuff to, like, appeal to to his Christian base. I do not believe for a second. I mean, this little Harvard fucking, like, God. Like, I don't believe it. I don't buy it.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Especially, like, being Trump's guy, because Trump is one of the most secular people of all fucking time. Sure, sure. And he also killed the Pope. Let's not forget that. I do not, I also don't think, for that matter, that if he was this much of a, like, true, like, died in the whole evangelical type guy, I don't think he would marry a Hindu in the first place. Well, I think that's where he is a recent convert. Yeah. Which is what's so weird. So it's actually her fault. He's a recent convert to. I rest my fucking cave. To Catholicism, the weirdest people in the world, late recent conference. I think, I personally think he can convince himself of anything. Like, that he.
Starting point is 00:41:20 you know, like people like that, like he there's part of him that is believing the bullshit in in some way that like he's doing God's mission by I think he is fake to his very fucking core. Like I like, like for him to like
Starting point is 00:41:38 write that book and like present himself in the way he's presented itself his whole life. I think that there is like I think he's just fake. I do not think there's like a real person in there. Like It's, it's not hillbilly elegy. It's, it's a Freddie Sinellis American psycho.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Right, right, yeah, yeah. Like it's hillbilly psycho. When people were like, oh, man, what's a kind of weird statement? He blasted any criticism as being anti-Christian discrimination. Yeah, man. And then he like doubled down. Which is one of the biggest problems we have in this country, I will say. Anti-Christian discrimination.
Starting point is 00:42:13 100%. It's basically Christian nation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, built on genocidal everything. But yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the problem. That's the problem. I don't know. It's like, I think a lot of people are like, so is he going to dump Usha to then have Charlie Kirk's widow as his wife to run in 2028?
Starting point is 00:42:32 Is Erica Kirk the VP on a Vance ticket? There's so many questions. I mean, like, it's just interesting to see the two because Cash Patel, right, he deigned to embrace Dovali like in a post and then got torn down by all these maga racist people. And I wonder if G.D. Vance is like, obviously, to be the president, I will need a Christian wife. And in this fucked up Game of Thrones-esque thing that's happening here, I choose Erica Kirk. New spot just opened up. I'm going to be honest. I don't think people give a fuck who the first lady is that much, really.
Starting point is 00:43:06 To make this like a deal breaker thing. I think we've learned that in this last administration. So I don't really know how beneficial that would be to have. what I could see is more likely is Erica Kirk herself trying to have some kind of like I don't know kind of like oh she's trying yeah they're going to run her way into the administration
Starting point is 00:43:28 they're gonna yeah they'll find a position for her while I don't well I'm maybe not convinced that there's a some romantic Game of Thrones style thing at play a lot of these people give me swinger vibes and swingerism has been kind of hot in the
Starting point is 00:43:47 conservative movement. It's been hotter for conservatives to be swingers in recent years than it ever has been. And I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these people are just fucking and sucking on the side. And that's all there is to it. I would be surprised if they were not.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Yeah. All available evidence seems to be that. Well, they're so into calling people cucks and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's very corny-coded. Yeah. They're going to change the conservative symbol from an elephant to a pineapple. That's right. elephant with a little pineapple and that's such a good call
Starting point is 00:44:20 about like the Patrick Bateman aspect like when just watching Jadie Vance going to a donut shop is very similar to like watching Patrick Bateman like interact with people and just be like freaking out like his brain just like
Starting point is 00:44:35 can't handle normalcy be like donuts all right how you don't so of whatever you think is ordinary do that. I think we've seen years of like the liberal version of Patrick Bateman and you I mean
Starting point is 00:44:51 you still like Gavin Newsom's very much like a person like that. Pete Buttigieg as well but I think JD Vance and like you can feel like Mark Johnson like I feel like people like that are an example of like the conservative type of Patrick Bateman where I think
Starting point is 00:45:07 that like the years of like people like Bush or like I don't know like Mitch McConnell or like Lindsay Graham where there's like a southern kind of affectation to their like conservatism there's like a folksiness to it I think that they're pivoting more
Starting point is 00:45:23 to the like stone face disaffected like yes I want to make the world worse kind of concertism which shouldn't be that seems weird it seems weird that that's their position it does it does let's take a quick break
Starting point is 00:45:39 and we'll come back and we'll talk about the beginning of the season of Christmas as deigned by Mariah Carey and also big news in the world of Chuck Lori fans who don't know much about Chuck Lori.
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Starting point is 00:49:59 sandwich at that i mean miles you just i don't look man look this guy he cut short the life of a poor ice agent's ballistic vest when he sullied it with a sandwich. And we talked, look, the trial started this week, and we talked about how Janine Piro's been taking a lot of L's with grand juries trying to prosecute Americans for fucking nothing as a way to intimidate people. Well, she tried to get the sandwich guy in a felony.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And the fucking grand, they're like, get the fuck out of here. What are you talking about? So now she's going back trying to get him on a fucking misdemeanor. Okay. And the whole thing, just people that are reporting. from the trial, it sounds like as stupid as it is to try and charge someone for throwing a sub sandwich at a guy and then running. Border Patrol agent Gregory Laramore is on the stand. This is all from a Blue Sky account from Dave Jameson, who is like reporting from the courtroom.
Starting point is 00:50:55 So these are some of his posts on blue sky. Quote, Border Patrol agent Gregory Laramore is on the stand narrating surveillance video of the Sammy Toss. Quote, now he struck me with the sandwich, Laramor says. Border Patrol agent Laramore now testifies that he was not injured by the sandwich, but he felt the impact through his ballistic vest. Jesus. Yeah, this is what he said. The sandwich... He felt the
Starting point is 00:51:18 impact. Yeah. Dude. Wait, hey, imagine what would happen if, you know, someone shot at him through the fucking ballistic fest, sorry for swearing. This is it. It's the same... He said the sandwich came apart and, quote, kind of exploded on his chest upon impact. Quote, I could smell the
Starting point is 00:51:34 onions and mustard. Cue, fortunate son, now. okay because this guy is having a flashback please please help him how is this guy still walking on two feet after all this but then this is the best part the cross-examination from the defense are like okay so it exploded this is from the defense defense is now questioning laramore on cross-examination they show video still of the sandwich and wrap her on the ground post throw the attorney asks quote do you recognize that sandwich Leramor
Starting point is 00:52:05 The sandwich exploded Laramore won't confirm Quote, I did not go back to collect it, he says. The defense team presses Laramore on whether the sandwich really, quote, exploded. They returned to the photo of the sandwich and wrapper on the ground. Defense asked, quote, that sandwich hasn't exploded at all,
Starting point is 00:52:22 has it? Laramore replies, quote, It looks like a little bit is coming out towards the bottom. I love a shithead prosecutor, defense lawyer type. Like, just clearly you're lying. Clearly you're lying. And now I've got you. Also, sorry, you want to go ahead and identify that sandwich there?
Starting point is 00:52:43 You seen that before? That sandwich looked familiar. Also, here's something they never say. I have never seen a police officer help themselves on the stand. Like, you actually look into, like, we all have that image of law and order, and it's Lenny Briscoe. And he's like, and then he told me a social insurer. and social security number, and I knew it had to be the murderer because he was covered in blood.
Starting point is 00:53:05 And then you actually watch any time a police officer gets on the stand. And it's just like, and so what did you see? And it's just like the accused do the crime. And then you go to the camera show. It's like, well, there's you. You're wearing a blindfold and you're holding a sign that says on your blindfold and cannot see. There's a boot on your head and a bucket on your foot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:28 You're in a concrete tunnel underneath where the. It was purported to have taken place. Your pants keep falling down. And you discharged your weapon three times to, quote, unquote, get some light in this goddamn room. Well, it eventuated that at about 1,400 out, you know, they just put it in cop speak, cop jargon so that it sounds like. Yeah, you know, it was 1045 doing a double triple. And I just had myself to talk about in Dublin.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Yeah, we've got a foot long here. The defensive strategy is pretty sound because they're just trying to show the jury how fucking stupid this whole thing is. And they even asked the shell-shocked ice agent about, like, all the gag gifts that his fellow coward colleagues were giving him after the incident. They're like, hey, so what kind of stuff they're giving you after this terrible ordeal? He's like, uh, got a subway, like a sandwich plush toy that one guy gave me and a patch that said felony footlong, uh, put on my tack vest.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And he was apparently even like kind of laughing on the stand about it. So the rare, wait, so is this a bit defense? Right, right, right. We're trying to determine if the state is bringing the charges as a bit. It's a bit, right? Your Honor, objection, I think I'm being zinged. Right, right, 100%. We're trying to put him in jail as a goof, Your Honor.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I mean, look, this is why Janine Prio probably should have got Kim Kardashian to probably prosecute this better than the freaks they have in that office right now. I like Superduser Victor's idea of having Dr. Lumas from Halloween, the guy who, like, always shows up and is like, I pray. You know, like, he's just, his job is to describe Michael Myers to people after Michael Myers has killed someone next door to them. I prayed that he would burn in hell, but in my heart, I knew that hell would not have him. Just like come up and describe the sandwich throw. Right. So in the movie goes, I've been, I've been trick or treated to death tonight.
Starting point is 00:55:27 And he shows up and goes, you don't know. know what death is. Wow. What's amazing about Dr. Loomis as a character is if you follow through what he did as a doctor, he's maybe the worst person ever to practice medicine in cinema. Because it's like, you discovered that this child was capable of black magic
Starting point is 00:55:47 and maybe Satan's pawn on earth to reap death for demons. And your solution was, I'm going to read it some nice books and hope it doesn't escape. Yeah, yeah. That's one way. One way, Donnie. Appeasement. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:01 What are you? The president during escape from New York? Sorry, same action. The sandwich exploded like that bird when hit by Randy Johnson. Johnson's fastball. Do we have any idea of what the contents of the sandwich were besides onions and mustard? Now, that narrows it obviously. It could be tuna, but that's a, that's a, that's an off-piece tuna choice.
Starting point is 00:56:23 I don't think it was tuna. Because if it were tuna, it probably would have exploded, based on my understanding. understanding of physics. Yeah, depending on how long, how damp the bread is. Yeah. And it wasn't a planned attack, right? The guy, I think I remember his account, yeah, his account coming in was just that saw ice agents doing fuck shit, had a, a big sandwich in his hand and could not help
Starting point is 00:56:46 a piece of the shit. Yeah, I mean. And then ran and they couldn't even catch him on foot. And then they're like, fuck it. We got this guy's address. And then they got him at home. Are you kidding me? They didn't even catch this guy.
Starting point is 00:56:58 He threw a sandwich and they had to, they had to fugitive him. Yeah, they did not apprehend him right away. No. Your fugitive was carrying a Quiznose foot long. I mean, to be fair to those ice agents, it was the first time they ever rang in with all that gear on. Right. That's tough. That's tough stuff, dude.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Have you tried to do three push-ups? All right. I do want to talk about another great TV lawyer besides Lenny Briscoe, and that is, of course, Kim Kardashian. She's been making some headlines lately, usually my sign to tune out a new story. But some of these are pretty entertaining. Recently, she admitted that she isn't a lawyer yet, yet. Oh, okay. And one of the reasons is she kept using ChatGPT to study slash cheat, and it, quote, often gave the wrong answer, causing her to, quote, fail tests all the time.
Starting point is 00:57:53 What does she think being a lawyer? is like I don't understand like I I will say we have a number of stories of judges having to reject lawyer like lawyers work and like proofs and what you know whatever the fuck lawyers do for being like you you clearly use chat gbt like these are made up cases that you're citing as president oh no beggars be choosers was a landmark case okay the so yeah I just want to read this quote where someone was asking her about her use of chat GPT. No, I use it for legal advice. So when I'm needing to know the answer to a question,
Starting point is 00:58:34 I'll take a picture and snap and, like, put it up there. And then someone asks her whether she was cheating and she clarified that it was just to study for her tests. They're always wrong. It has made me fail tests all the time. And then I'll get mad and I'll like yell at it and be like, you made me fail. Why did you do this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And it'll reply. And it'll talk back. I think she was saying after, like, and like, yeah, I just have to yell at it a little bit. Yeah. Cool, cool. I'm, again, it's, it's weird that I, I expected a little bit more from Kim Kardashian. I didn't think she would scream at a LLM for, for trying to replace her own intellect.
Starting point is 00:59:17 You made me fail, but she, I don't know why. I thought maybe. I've always suspected she was, like, smarter than she's letting on. And, like, I do think, like, she plays up. this stuff to like just I don't know like as a as a character on keeping up with the Kardashians I think as someone who has probably never had to earnestly study in their life yeah right that she would look at chat GPT as a way to like augment her studies for it and somehow feel let down because she's like this is perfect this is exactly what I needed as someone who doesn't want to do the work however there are signs that the chat GPT leakage has gone further another reason she's in the is a behind-the-scenes clip from her new show, All's Fair, which we're going to get to, involves her telling Sarah Paulson, like great actor, Sarah Paulson, that the moon landing isn't real, citing interviews with Buzz Aldrin and the other one. Come on, chat TPT couldn't give you that answer. When she said the other one, did she mean the guy that we always forget was also up there, or she just couldn't remember Neil Armstrong's name?
Starting point is 01:00:27 she couldn't remember Neil Armstrong's name. Yeah, yeah. But to be clear, neither, none of the three people who went to the moon have ever suggested that the moon landing was faked. And in fact, there's a great video where Buzz Aldrin confronts a person, like a famous moon hoaxer, and
Starting point is 01:00:48 literally punches him in the face. I was going to say, didn't, like, they, speaking of a court case, there was a court case as a result because Buzz Aldrin's a man in the Air Force from the 60s. Like, he's going to, he's going to spit, he's going to drink red meat, and he's going to hit you. How dare you?
Starting point is 01:01:05 I think it was fake. I've seen a few videos on Buzz Aldrin talking about how it didn't happen. He says it all the time now in interviews. Maybe we should find Buzz Aldrin. You ever think about that? No. I haven't. You ever think about maybe finding Buzz Aldrin, maybe asking him what's real and what's not?
Starting point is 01:01:25 Yeah. What happened to people? taking into account who they are when it came to their opinions. You know what I mean? If I'm Kim Kardashian, I'm sitting there being like, okay, I'm famous because my mom and I orchestrated gossip columnists and released a sex tape at the right time to go into reality TV show that's really a sitcom, I probably don't understand rocket propulsion. On which I play a fool.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Like on the sitcom that is purportedly a reality show, I play a fool. Yeah. I'm a dumb idiot who's stupid. Maybe I don't know. Like, maybe I don't know what the Van Allen radiation belt really is capable of. No, but I have seen a out-of-context clip from a Conan O'Brien interview with both Aldrin. The thing they're talking about is the Conan O'Brien interview where he Conan interviewed Aldrin, and he described how broadcasters used animation during news reports at the time, and people were like, see? They just caught out all the context.
Starting point is 01:02:26 And I think maybe he was, like, explaining why there are conspiracy theories. Well, yeah, because you're saying it was intercut with the actual legitimate footage. And he's like that little bit of ambiguity. It was just like, yeah, well, they did that kind of shit. But not it's fake. Because she says shit, like the flag, like, there's no wind on the moon. Like, doing all that shit. Yeah, the standard, like, bullshit.
Starting point is 01:02:47 It's like, yeah, they did that. They knew there would be no wind on the moon. And therefore, we're ready for it. for that. It's kind of crazy. Two last things you say. Why, and I know this was referenced by a comedian Nick Mullin during stand-o special, but I'll say it anyway. If they were going to do something like that,
Starting point is 01:03:04 why would they leave so many clues? You know what I mean? Like, first of all, you're not hatching. We need to fool the Soviet Union that we're at the moon, and we're going to do it with a bunch of famous people who are going to leak the information. Right. Right. The other thing is, when it comes to conspiracy theories, it's
Starting point is 01:03:20 just like, it's either, like, you can always find, there's always just a guy that just lied and claimed it. In the case of the moon landing, it was probably a bunch of other Nazis who wanted to counter the Nazis that did the moon landing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:33 Like, I literally know the guy that started the modern flat earth movement. I started open mic stand-up comedy with him. Right. And he would show up at the coffee shop I worked at in steel muffins and his apartment building had no plumbing. Like, this is just, it is what it is, guys.
Starting point is 01:03:49 And I assume the moon landing not happening was started by, I think there's definitely some KGB seating in there. Like that that was something that they were working on getting out there because they didn't want to, you know, admit the race. The U.S. got there first. Yeah. That'd be fun.
Starting point is 01:04:07 I'd like if the KGB was involved. You know what I mean? Just a guy named Boris, maybe they didn't do it. Yeah. I mean, they had a pretty prominent role in early JFK assassination conspiracy theories. So anyways, one reason she might be pursuing in, in quotes, her legal degree is to as like method acting preparation for her new role in ryan murphy's all's fair which the the cast is fucking stacked it's just like they're i don't know it's like
Starting point is 01:04:44 it's like when doc rivers's son played on that like really stacked clippers team and he was just like i don't know if everybody else is really good maybe yeah maybe you can carry this person yeah Which doesn't work on acting because you do it, you act for yourself. And then the other actors got to do their acting. So if you're a great actress or, you know, someone like Naomi Watts and then you cut to Kim Kardashian doing her line, that might, it might be actually worse, that juxtaposition. Sarah Paulson, Tiana Taylor, Glenn Close, Naomi Watts, all, you know, in Oscar conversations, various points. The show is sitting at, on Rotten Tomatoes, sitting at zero. An unprecedented, the very rare 0% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 01:05:27 To be fair, it's now at 6%. It got up to 6%. They got, they saw the zero. They saw that they were getting bad press for that, and they got there somebody to go out and write a positive review for it. The reviews are fairly unambiguous. The Guardian called it fascinatingly,
Starting point is 01:05:47 incomprehensibly, existentially terrible, and so awful it feels almost contemptuous. Oh, Jesus. Another critic called it unwatchable, a crime against television and possibly the worst television drama ever made, again, with actors who are kind of above being on TV. Like, in many cases you're like,
Starting point is 01:06:07 oh, damn, like, that's wild that they're doing a TV show. Like, this must be prestige, to quote, Super Producer Ana Hosnia, that's some prestige casting. And the Knightley called it, said it's not a hate watch. It's unwatchable. This is actually making me more interested. No. It does, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:25 If it's that bad, you kind of got to know, right? It's like watching Cutthroat Island when it came out because it was so bad. First of all, Cupthroat Island is not that bad. I watched it again in the pandemic. And let me just say that it's rewatchable. It's real fun. Yeah, it's stupid. But it's a pirate movie.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Like, oh, the cannonballs wouldn't make things explode. All right. Fine. Yeah. Gina Davis also wouldn't have that rosy of a skin like on a shift. Yeah, like eat my butt. I don't care. Also, that monkey wouldn't be a fun companion.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Are we going to pull at all these threads? Yes. I will say, speaking of Eat My Butt, some of those plot lines do make it seem like it would be campy fun, which the fact that it has these plot lines and it manages not to be fun for many reviewers is pretty kind of an achievement all on its own. Some clips of surfaced online when a husband is being grilled for his butt plugs and pig costume fetish and, and Watts and Kardashian tell him that the negotiation so far has been just the tip. It'll be so much more painful, the deeper we go. Oh, God. Which seems like it's beneath Naomi Watts.
Starting point is 01:07:36 I don't know. Yeah. I mean, she must have spent all that 21 grams money or something. Yeah, I like this period of time because what we've learned is anyone who is famous is just a shill for money. Yeah. If the Riyadh Comedy Festival and this drama has taught us nothing, it's that like, everyone has a price, and it's vaguely lower than you realize. Like, it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, they'll just do it for money.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Like, I'm sure, like, I guarantee Glenn Close was like sipping Chardonnay and didn't learn her lines because she's like, it's a Kim Kardashian drama, darling. All improv. They're like, they're like, it's just like, they like, like, yeah, it's crazy that all these great performers were with this terrible, weird person from Calabasas. But also, if we really analyze it. Calabasas, which means? Pumpkins. No. Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Is that true? That is. Yeah. I don't believe you. How about that? I promise. Yeah. I smell something, Jack.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Do you know what I smell? Rotten pumpkins? No, your pants and they are aflame. Oh. Yeah. No, it's because the Spanish is calabasa. Calabasa. So calabasas, I guess could be a squash, but hey, same family.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Vulture has also pointed out that the show has an insidious vein of Islamophobia. Yeah, which is just what we need at this point, including a plot point about a sheikh who wants to behead his wife and closest character is apparently a Golda Meyer super fan, the Israeli prime minister, who said there's no such thing as Palestinians. So we'll see. It's too early to tell where maybe the sheik is secretly the good guy and the Golda Meyer fan is revealed to be not a good person. we we it's too soon to know but the only way to find out how bad and evil the show is is to tune in what if this was a paid a piece of paid marketing for the show just tearing it down to like i feel like it's got to be like somewhat effective like i having done the story kind of want to watch it i mean i think what i'll look at the clips that are on social first to see if they're
Starting point is 01:09:41 they're probably just going to raise the hairs on my neck and i'll be like i can't this there's already too much going on. I can't waste my time with this. But I want to watch it the same way that I used to like take shots of tequila with Tabasco in it. You know, it's like some part of me that wants to hurt myself. Yeah. Yeah. Which streamer is this on? I'm sorry if I missed that. Hello. Hulu. I was going to say this doesn't feel like a, this feels like one of the, the, let's throw something at the wall streamers. Like this is, this has peacock, uh, Hulu. Yeah. And every once in a while, a little stream around I like to call Max written all over it. You've not come back from the, you went under to the max side and you haven't come up, come back with the rest of us to the HBO max side.
Starting point is 01:10:27 I only switched, I only stopped calling it HBO Go. Right. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to miles. he needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday.
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