The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 408 (Best of 11/17/25-11/21/25)

Episode Date: November 23, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a Google Doc. And send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one-page business plan for you.
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Starting point is 00:02:22 Hello, the internet. And welcome to this episode of the Weekend, These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop, infotainment, laugh stravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay. This morning, it was like big news in my circle of friends.
Starting point is 00:02:55 that the Legends of Zelda movie that we're finally getting our first looks. Oh, really? I'm a big Zelda nerd. I've played all those games to death. It's the only game I can really play. I'm a big dungeon freak.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And, yeah, me and my circle of friends, we love that shit. And so, yeah, there's like the first images. Damn, dungeon freaks sound so much nastier than what it is. I got to really, yeah, what you're talking about? A whole vocabulary is a dungeon freak.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Oh, yeah, he's like, when I say D&D. I can't be talking like this anymore. People are really going to be I'm looking for my name in the files. Okay, so first looks, I'm looking at something that looks like the Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings. Yeah, it's pretty much it. Yeah, it's not much to look at right now, but it's still pretty exciting. So shit that is like, Hollywood's promised to New Zealand that we will boost your tourism industry once every decade.
Starting point is 00:03:48 It feels like what we're seeing here. That's cool. It's live action, you know, that'll be interesting. Oh, wow. They're describing it. The director said they're aiming for something, quote, akin to a live action Miyazaki,
Starting point is 00:04:03 which, okay. I'm here. Who's directing that? There's a lot of opportunity. Yeah, is it Hayao Miyazaki? No,
Starting point is 00:04:09 but, you know, the vibrations, we're going to copy. I used to hate, like, video game adaptations, and then I saw that movie Uncharted with Tom Holland.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And I was actually, this feels like a meal. Like, this feels like a whole meal. I really enjoyed that one. Are you one? But, like, Super Mario.
Starting point is 00:04:25 and stuff. I was like, man. Well, yeah. I mean, I get like the animated version. They're just trying to keep it like to very video gamey kind of stuff because it wasn't the John Ligua Zamo Bob Hoskins live action Mario Brothers we got in the 90s. I mean, that was so good. Are the fans, how are the, because obviously, I mean, I feel like Nintendo fans are less toxic than like console or PC gaming fans. Are there people enthusiastic about this casting?
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah, pretty happy, man. I think everybody just didn't want it to be like. some big name celebrity where they were going to just try to force it like they did. Oh, yeah, because they continuously do. How are they going to get Chris Pratt to do the voice, though? Is he just overdubbing them, like in VL afterwards? All right. I'm going to give you the directors.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Mama Mia. And then I'm going to give you the director's filmography, and you're going to do a bit of a Britney Broski face, Miles, where it's like, oh, okay, all right? Yes. The kombucha face. So he is best known for directing the Maze Runner film trilogy. But then he made the fourth Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes reboot,
Starting point is 00:05:37 Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, which I've heard is like interesting, at least. Yeah, I see it. And it's all right? Yeah, I don't look, bro, I don't, do whatever the fuck you're going to do. You never know, because I know directing movies is, you might make a whole bunch of shitty ones and then suddenly make a good one. So off of this and Amon's excitement, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to say really positive about this. I do really like, I do like the no-name performers, though.
Starting point is 00:06:03 It's a perfect pairing, man, if you think about it, because all the monsters in Zelda are like non-humanoid. They're like pig ape thing, creatures. And so it actually kind of makes sense. It actually makes me more excited now that he's playing the movie. I'm just waiting for when they're going to, because I know right now they say this woman, Bo Braggison is playing Zelda, but I know what they're going to put Sidney Sweeney in that role of me. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know what else it is?
Starting point is 00:06:27 I haven't been excited about anything, like, in movies for so long. And so I'm just really allowing myself, I'm kind of forcing myself to be really excited about this one. I love that. May it not be a disappointment. May it. What was the last time you got really hyped over a movie? I was pretty psyched about one battle after another. I was really psyched over weapons and I never saw it.
Starting point is 00:06:46 You still have seen weapons? No, I've had time. You haven't seen weapons, right? I know. I was just like, I remember seeing the trailer. I'm like, yo, this shit fucking goes. And then cut to like, you know, life, lifeing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm glad also, it seems like it's aimed at theaters, right? Like this is going to be a theatrical release. They're not just going to be like, now on Amazon Prime. No, no, no, no, no. Okay, that's good. That's good. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I think I heard, I was really excited about the Miss Piggy movie. And then I think I heard that it's going to be a streaming thing, which is crazy. You need to put that on it out on theater. That's fine because I just showed my kid the Muppets Christmas Carol. He's fucking love. He normally doesn't like seeing like live action shit. He likes animated shit. He was feeling it.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Oh, nice. Yeah. Is this going to be like a live action Miss Piggy? Live action, Miss Piggy? Yeah. I haven't even heard about this. Emma Stone and Jennifer Lawrence and Miss Piggy. This might be relevant to one of our upcoming icon episodes.
Starting point is 00:07:51 So stay tuned for this. Those. I must start. Yeah, yeah. What is, what's something you think's underrated? Well, guys, I come on this show so much that I feel like I'm running out of underrated things. So I am just going to say pencils, number two, Ticonderoga. And then I, what I said that, I thought of the office quote, of course, because I was just looking at things in the office and saying that I think they're underrated. Are you just looking at the things around you and saying you love them, Rick? That's basically what I'm doing. But I don't know. I love a pencil. I don't have a lot more to say about it.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But I just think I don't type when I need to like process information. God, I have that pencil. I need to erase. It's just a, it's a joy for me. The Taekondoro go is with the green eraser. Yeah, it's like the most classic. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Archetypele platonian pencil. Oh, see, I think it's the most classic as being the pink eraser. No, no, the green, the metal that holds the eraser too. Yeah, and the, like, the lettering is like a shiny green. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. What about mechanical pencils? Where are you at on that?
Starting point is 00:08:58 Eh, you know, I mean, I don't, I'm not going to, like, tell anyone they're wrong. Right. I'm really accepting of all kinds of pencils. I don't like, but you were always fucking against me. Of writing, like the feeling when you break the lead on that thing. It's not good. No. Pressing too hard, baby?
Starting point is 00:09:16 Pressing too hard. You pressed out? Are you always pressing too hard? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Big time. The one good thing about a mechanical pencil is you can click the lead all the way out and then pretend to give yourself a shot and stick it to your arms. So that is true as merit. Did you do the thing where you could shoot staples out of it? No.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Like a big pencil, if you took the tip off, the actual click part, you could put a like a staple that's been like bent from a stapler, flattened out into the place where the lead goes. And if you pull back on like the eraser that clicks on it, it would the tension. we just fucking launch a fucking staple of people. That's amazing. I would have been doing that a lot. I know if I was all the cool shit. Yeah. Hey man,
Starting point is 00:09:59 if the power goes out, baby, I got all kinds of fun shit we can do. Did it come out fast enough to actually cause any kind of pain or even a sensation? Do you know that? I mean, if you maybe hit somebody point blank in their eye, but it was enough to like fuck with someone and be like,
Starting point is 00:10:15 what the fuck? And that's what you want. You want to go to the line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to go to the principle. where someone like errantly turns ahead and like now they're you know in the Dan Crenshaw zone rocking the iPad. I'll put number two pencils in there as also a thing that I think out of context like years in
Starting point is 00:10:31 the future could be in the same room of the, you know, future MoMA as like cool design thing. You know, like the color is really worth. The colors are all really working together. It's just like a real, like with the Marlborough pack, you know, number two pencils. They look really good together. I feel like they could be married. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And they're kind of a couple. I shipped them, actually. Yeah. Because the Marlboro filter is the same color, is a similar color to the number two pencil, you know? Yeah, a pencil and a cigarette. So many things in common. Deep ochre.
Starting point is 00:11:10 What is something you think is overrated more? You know, I was going to say the Epstein files. And, uh, because my thing, yeah, so what? Okay, look. So what? There's a guy called Mort Burke in there a bunch. It's not me, guys. You have any idea how many people there are with that name?
Starting point is 00:11:25 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, look, okay, sure. Are maybe people at the highest levels of government engaging in ritual gay sex while passing anti-LGBT legislation? Yeah, you know what I mean? Fuck, so what? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Don't we have anything better to do and to find out what was in the mind of like
Starting point is 00:11:47 Maybe the only evil genius we've ever truly known, which is like this child hunter. Yeah, right. Oh, Fleet Dipship. Yeah, right. This is what Joe Rogan's probably going to be saying this week. He's like, don't we have anything better to do this week, guys? Yeah, yeah. I'm so tired of seeing it.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Because you're starting to see the people get in line. Bring back the girls to my Instagram feed, you know? I keep seeing people talk about this stuff. Yeah. Remember when it used to be like more AI. Like I remember what happened to little Michaela, the CG Instagram. Game influencer. That was fucking sick, bro. I forgot you were like one of her few public fans.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I forgot. I was. I was. Yeah. I was the only person to get a fucking restraining order serving against them for stalking someone who doesn't exist. Yeah. But I think you're right. And I do think that what you are saying is essential. Like Donald Trump was like, all right, I want to vote for it so people can move on. He was essentially like, I'll let you see it. Yeah. If you promise never to talk about it again. Yeah. Let's just move it along. Not much to see here. Okay, you've seen it. It's good. We're done here, right? Everybody can just shut the fuck up. No. No. I think the thing is no one's, yeah, it's, I don't know if anyone's going to get the satisfying answer they seek. That's, I think the whole thing about it that I'm just sort of like, I don't think it's going to be the thing. I don't know. I'd be surprised again, I've said this if this is, this would be enough to fracture his own basis support of him. Because clearly nobody on the other side of it is like. like, oh, God, I don't know what's going to be in there. What could it possibly mean about Donald Trump?
Starting point is 00:13:22 Right. But, well, all those people are just sort of a continually propagandized by Fox News. So, like, that's not ever going to change. Well, and I think all similarly, like, on MSNBC, I think some people are like, oh, thank God. I don't have to do any kind of like radical action to try and rest control of my country from the oligarchs. Maybe it'll just end elegantly with this leaked email thing. Right. That right. With the same thing with Mangione was my feeling of like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Okay. Yes, but also I don't think a rich kid with a gun is going to save us. Like, it's not going to, you know what I mean? Right, right. I mean, J.B. Pritzker's dad is in those emails. I don't know. We'll see what that does for his, the files. We'll see what that does for his pursuit of power.
Starting point is 00:13:59 But maybe that's, that shows he is, you know, he's of the elite class. He's well connected enough. Yeah. He's like, he's invited to the eyes wide shop parties. He's just like, doesn't go. Right, right, right. Because the food sucks. it's just like baked lays
Starting point is 00:14:18 everybody's trying to lean up at those things you know you don't want to be out there having just eaten ribs the craziest sexual acts you could ever imagine then and also like some loose popcorn yeah right this isn't even fresh yeah I wonder what the food spread was like at the eyes wide shop party sadly Tom Cruise got kicked out
Starting point is 00:14:40 before we could have seen it yeah that was my main complaint with that movie. This guy's an idiot. Right, right. Should have stuck it out. Should have run away. Tried to get some cupcakes or something.
Starting point is 00:14:53 It's a fascinating thing where it's like, people sort of think, oh, they're going to like leak these things out in such a way that it'll become less and less interesting and that people won't care. But there's also this other, the opposite could easily happen where it's like, the more you leave to the imagination, like the more intriguing and engaging it becomes. you know so i think like 20 000 out of do we have any idea how many there are like in theory total oh yeah it seems like a lot because he wasn't putting a lot of time into the emails he was said yeah they're like texts yeah stream of consciousness nonsense yeah uh that that one is good
Starting point is 00:15:29 would be his response to someone being like well i feel like i'm in trouble at work he's like yeah good point uh just zero thought just gives you like a new level of like wow people will to anything as a reply to their question. Never have to put off another text message or email. You can just dash off some bullshit. Sounds all right to me. All right. Yeah, I think we do, like, I wonder if the fact that they're going to be heavily redacted
Starting point is 00:16:01 and leave the names, like, out for all Republicans, is going to backfire because that is a big part of like the game. of, you know, Q and all that shit is, like, trying to figure out and, like, connect the dots. And if you just, like, give them, you know, too many emails for any one person to read through in an entire lifetime
Starting point is 00:16:25 and just be like, there, have at it. Like, you kind of need something to, like, some obstacle for them to work around. So I do want. Well, I think there's phases, right? I think if you're trying to figure out how to do maximum damage to the presidency with this, it's like you they're they're clearly sitting on the most incriminating things like they haven't even begun to reveal those like you know we're getting all these things come out in a slow drip that only make it worse i feel like there's going to be some other thing that they feel will be really compelling but again will the media report on it enough obviously fox will do its thing to completely inoculate their viewers from experiencing reality so hard to know hard to know do you think that's the k are they competent enough
Starting point is 00:17:11 to have leaked the least damaging ones currently? I think just based on hearing from the survivors, they clearly know everything. Right. You know, and I think haven't really made the thing to be like, we're going to speak in a public form about this because I think,
Starting point is 00:17:28 A, it's probably not the best way to do that. But I just feel just based on how you hear other politicians or other elected officials who have been in some of these hearings, they're like, bro, it's, uh, Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:17:42 I mean, I feel like the email that kicked this off, like those early emails where Epstein, before Trump was the president, said, oh, by the way, like, Trump is the dog who hasn't barked. He was in, like, he's implicated in all this. He was with redacted victim for hours at my house. Right. That's on its own. That's it. Like, that's the whole thing. of Epstein's victims for hours on your own.
Starting point is 00:18:11 And he knows that you are implicated in this. The person who was like organizing and overseeing the whole thing. Like that, it feels like that alone, if they were just like, this email has been authenticated. And that was just the only thing. People would be still freaking out about that. But then we all found out that he sucked Bill Clinton's dick. And now we're on to the next thing. Jesus Christ, it's so stupid.
Starting point is 00:18:36 That really made you be like, what kind of? multiverse are we in right now? I know, when that headline came up. But anyway, well, it's, again, I also, right, we don't necessarily know that that's true, whatever, but I've been saying for a while, I think if you pull back, like, we are in a time of transparency. Like, there's so much dark, starting with, like, the Me Too movement, and then up, which is so necessary. And then up till now, there's just, like, the seat, that it's going to become harder and harder to, like, keep these secrets. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I think some people will probably engage with it in good faith and being like people deserve justice and then there are other people
Starting point is 00:19:11 who are like this will hopefully bring my enemies down forget forget what happened that facilitated this terrible fucking controversy but right well and that's i think you're kind of seeing that it's like oh both sides are trying to utilize it as a weapon but it's like no no no you're all everyone it's like you guys are all somewhat implicated yeah yeah right exactly so okay how about this we both agree that whoever's in this should probably face justice straight up right yeah no debate about that can we enter it like that I don't know. This seems like something we should just move on from.
Starting point is 00:19:42 He's dead. He's dead. Okay. Brad Sherman. Why are we talking about that guy? He's a loser. He's dead. He's such a loser.
Starting point is 00:19:48 He's dead. You know who's dead? All the losers. Move on. Yeah. Well, can we talk about how hot my press secretary is? How hot my legitimate female wife is, Melania, Trump? Power couple.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And shout out to that great John Early bit on his last. last HBO special about how the grab them by the pussy tape sounds like John early trying to pretend like he was straight in junior high right it's such a good bit dude yeah yeah I grabbed her by the pussy grabbed her by the pussy what everybody's like what why how unpleasant for both of you yeah that you do it what anything okay dude can I get off this bus now Yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry. Let's get off the box.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Locker room talk. What lockers are you hanging out in? Like, Jeffrey Epstein lockers? Feels like that's the kind of thing people talk about, is that locker room. Great, great financier. Jeff Epstein, good dude. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
Starting point is 00:20:56 We'll talk about how Megan Kelly, you've entered the spin zone with Megan Kelly, and she's got some interesting takes right now. Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a Google Doc and send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one page business plan for you. Here's the link. But there was no link. There was no business plan. It's not his fault. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet. My name is Evan Ratliff. I decided to create Kyle, my AI co-founder, after hearing a lot of stuff like this from OpenAI CEO Sam Aldman. There's this betting pool for the first year that there's a one-person billion-dollar company, which would have been like unimaginable without AI and now will happen.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I got to thinking, could I be that one person? I'd made AI agents before for my award-winning podcast, Shell Game. This season on Shell Game, I'm trying to build a real company with a real product run by fake people. Oh, hey, Evan. Good to have you join us. I found some really interesting data on adoption rates for AI agents and small to medium businesses. Listen to Shell Game on the IHeart Radio app Or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:25:08 Tales from the Shadows. Listen to Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows as part of my Cultura Podcast Network, available on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. We're back. And let's talk about, so Donald Trump, one of the stories that we've been like blizzarded with over the past couple months was that he was gone after his political enemies and trying to put them in jail for being mean to him, essentially, was the gist of it.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And some judges were like, maybe we'll push back on this. but they're kind of doing so the people that trump put in charge of these prosecutions have kind of done the heavy lifting for those judges and for anybody who was like we need to protect democracy they were like don't don't no no no no you don't have to work that hard actually we're going to fuck this up spectacular so fucking bad it's going to be laughable because i mean like it feels like one of the final guardrails we have protecting us from total despotic rule are the courts. Like they've been able to push back a little bit. And while obviously there are like MAGA meatbags and judges robes operating in the courts like Eileen Cannon in Florida who was based like documents. I don't know anything about it. Let them go. They're also like regular judges who care about like how fucking trials work just generally. So again, Trump wants revenge on all the people that held him to account in some form and he will just do anything to get them into court, even if that includes lying, his prosecution of James Comey has hit wall after wall because,
Starting point is 00:27:02 one, there isn't an actual crime to prosecute. Two, no lawyer with any real pedigree would agree to this openly corrupt bullshit. And three, the person that was willing to do it literally knows fuck all about prosecuting a case. So Comey right now, he's seeking to dismiss the case against him. And he's one step closer to that happening since the judge has decided that there were some pretty terrible missteps during the grand jury proceedings. So the prosecution now has to hand over all those grand jury materials for Comey's team to review. Basically, the judge is like, you guys don't know what you were doing, and I think you may be lying, uh, was what happened
Starting point is 00:27:41 earlier this week. Judge Fitzpatrick, quote, raised sharp doubts about an account of the grand jury proceedings provided by the justice department and whether it had turned over all records of the interactions between Halligan and the grand juries. Basically what's happening here is that Halligan said she like that she was trying to get these these two counts like get the grand jury to accept these two counts to indict James Comey they rejected one of them so she kind of just like turned around and brought like a new paper for the foreman of the grand jury to sign and just like yeah there you go where one of the counts the grand jury didn't actually review so she has like swapped it out and sort of like can he sign my report card yeah sign this report card it's a permission permission slip for a field. right like a cover sheet for your report card yeah without the report card attached yeah they said again like this is how it's reported uh the judge claimed that halligan had claimed she had her last contact with the grand jury at 428 p.m that day while the jurors were deliberating but he also noted that the grand jury initially rejected one of the counts against comie leading prosecutors to prepare a new indictment that halligan ultimately signed yet nothing in the record reflects the grand jury's initial decision or consideration of the second indictment so he's like the judge was like there was no time for like based on what I'm seeing there was no way the grand jury could have actually considered this second indictment right so what the fuck are you doing uh he also the judge also said halligan quote who had never prosecuted a case prior to comies appeared to make two
Starting point is 00:29:12 fundamental misstatements of law to the grand jury that could jeopardize the indictment altogether quote the record points to a disturbing pattern of profound investigative missteps missteps that led an FBI agent and a prosecutor to potentially undermine the integrity of the Korean jury proceeding. So she had never prosecuted like a federal case before. She never any kind. Nothing. Nothing. She's an insurance lawyer.
Starting point is 00:29:36 No, she's not a prosecutor. She's just somebody who has a law degree. Yeah. And was practicing it. She wasn't prosecuting cases though. Okay. You know what I mean? She was just there to represent people in like like insurance here.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I don't know what. I don't look. Her being a, of a U.S. attorney. prosecuting a federal case is so, Jack, that's like us playing in the NBA. Like, that's you and me suiting up tonight. I would also watch that.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I would watch that too, if you want to see a guy. I would be so, yeah, it would be so entertaining because I was even in high school, my specialty was getting dunked on spectacular so I would just be like getting dunked on and it like exploding backward like I stepped on a landmine
Starting point is 00:30:18 and like it would be so entertaining for people. They should put me in NBA just to show how good everyone else is. I think this is the equivalent because a lot of legal observers are like, holy fucking shit, dude, this lady's cooked. She's proper, fucked. Then Wednesday, she was in front
Starting point is 00:30:34 of the judge again, quote, the full grand jury never reviewed the indictment. It handed up against former FBI director James Comey, interim U.S. Attorney Halley and conceded Wednesday. She's like, yeah, they never reviewed it. Fine. Okay. Yes, I was
Starting point is 00:30:50 lying. You're being so annoying. about it. Prosecutors said that instead of presenting a new indictment to the grand jury after declined to approve one of the counts, Halligan simply brought an altered version to the magistrate's courtroom for the grand jury's poor person to sign. Like, isn't that a crime? Like, just to be like, yeah. Yes. So how are they so bad. I mean, we know the answer. How they're so bad is because you need somebody who's spectacularly corrupt. And people who are good at their jobs are like making the calculation. They're like, I'm not, I'm not going to like fuck my career to just like act like this guy knows what he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:31:27 The only people who are willing to do that are, in this case, an insurance lawyer that Trump met at a party and was like, I think you're good looking. I think you're beautiful. Yeah. And you have a law degree and therefore. Therefore, you need to be a federal prosecutor to do a revenge case that is already so difficult like in a normal courtroom to try. Because as Comey saying, this was a vindictive prosecution. He fucking tweeted or truth socialed about it. And now you have this loser coming in, just making shit up.
Starting point is 00:32:02 So things are looking not good for this case. It's wild, too, because these are, like, the tactics that, like, sleazy folks use to keep you in lawsuits. Right, yeah. You know, and bogus things like that. Yeah. of legal fees, yeah. And, but now they just run government. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Right. Yeah, yeah, like stretching a thing out by just like filing thing after thing. Right. Even if it doesn't make sense. Yeah. Just to make your life hell. Yeah. And unfortunately, the by any means necessary was truly by any means including deception.
Starting point is 00:32:39 So I don't know. I mean, like that's if this gets dismissed, just another humiliation. This is also the administration that like, you know, senators have died. Federal judges have died. You know, like, everything is on the table as far as I'm concerned with them. Wait, sorry, what do you mean? What senators have died? Melissa Hortman.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Oh, like being assassinated by it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and then they just say, well, it's not us, you know, but it's like, yeah, well, I don't know about that. Yeah. You sure about that? You sure about that's why. Yeah, I, I will see what happens with Letitia James, uh, because she's also another person who's in the crosshairs of Trump's vindictive DOJ crusade.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Right. They're already like, I think it was Fannie Mae, the Freddie Mac. They were like looking at her loan stuff and like, we don't see any kind of deceptive shit here. Like they're like, I don't know. Go ahead, I guess. Like even according to us who would know about this kind of like mortgage fraud, we're like, no. So that'll be another very interesting one to keep an eye on. And I'm sure we will because, yeah, the weaponized incompetence is really leaning into the incompetence.
Starting point is 00:33:49 part. Like, really too much now. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's just you get incompetent people. They'll do anything you say, but they're not going to be good at it always. All right. On the, elsewhere in the world of rich people who thought that they
Starting point is 00:34:05 could get away with fucking anything that they wanted ever. The recently released Epstein emails don't just look bad for Trump, although he is the name that's mentioned the most often. In them, former Treasury Secretary, Harvard president all around
Starting point is 00:34:20 just we've had quotes from this guy just like a complete dipshit neo-liberalism like let the market decide guru Larry Summers was in there
Starting point is 00:34:34 literally asking Epstein for dating advice in 2019 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then in some emails asking Epstein for dating advice in some emails Epstein described Summers
Starting point is 00:34:48 as his wingman. Which that's even worse than the one I had seen where he's like, Jeffrey, what do I do? She doesn't want to fuck me. What do I do? Should I be quiet?
Starting point is 00:35:01 Should I be strong? Yeah, very good, very good. Very good. Very good. You were strong when you complained about her. Yeah, right. Oh, my God. To be, that's being described as Epstein's wingman
Starting point is 00:35:13 has to just be instantly under into the jail. Yes. But, okay, between the Epstein files and the Me Too movement, okay, I just feel like, just be fucking nice to women, man. You know what, Zara? I'm sorry, I hadn't considered that. Which is just fucking cool it, Jack. What if you were just nice to people? What if you were just nicer to me?
Starting point is 00:35:41 Yeah. Because think of all of the young women at Harvard that he prayed on. Oh, God. We don't know that. You can't prove that. That's all electric. He just happened to get dating advice from somebody who made a guilty plea to sex crimes against children in 2008. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:02 But it's a sweetheart deal, a sweetheart deal, though. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Rivers had already stopped accepting donations from Epstein, which I'm sure that wasn't easy for them. Gee, wow. He's an economics professor. he whined that the woman who had abandoned plans with him for another man was really attracted to the other guy and that I'm unsuitable as a partner. He resigned from the board.
Starting point is 00:36:29 So this is not gone over well with, like, this honestly, like, I feel bad how much, how old-fashioned this feels that he had to step down from anything. Like, what is this the fucking Obama administration? What is this? What's going on here? He had to step down from open AI and the New York Times is cutting ties with him. There's still consequences to people being complete, fucking just revealed to be monsters.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Yeah. I mean, it is tough when you're described as Jeffrey Epstein's wingman. Wingman. Literally the dangerous knights crew, the literally dangerous night's crew. With their slick back hair going out, sloppy stakes. which was euphemistic probably for them.
Starting point is 00:37:16 But like this is absolutely, this is like the most purely cancelable offense right now is like you're his wingman he was describing as being described as. And it's enough that you leave Open AI in the New York Times. But you can still, are you still teaching? I mean, look, teaching the children of the future. Well, I mean, to be fair, most are legally adults at this point when they're at hard. According to him, these are not children.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Bring to him and Megan Kelly, these are basically adults. Oh, my God. They're not five, okay? Yeah. And they have to learn economics from this fucking ghoul who does. Of all the people. Yeah. Who's just carrying water for corporations in a corporatocracy.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Boy, does he understand economics. There's a clip of him. A student in one of his classes at Harvard videotaped him opening up the lecture where he has to be like, guys you probably I'm ashamed I'm ashamed of myself although not really saying that no but he's only saying that
Starting point is 00:38:21 because he's caught but exactly but it's just wild just listen to this guy having to be like I know I'm in the FC file it's like what okay Larry Summers try and explain this away some of you will have seen my statement of regret expressing my shame
Starting point is 00:38:38 with respect to what I did in communication with Mr. Epstein and that I've said that I'm going to step back from public children quite part time but I think it's very important
Starting point is 00:38:52 for my teaching obligation very important that you be in a room with young people that's very important nobody else could do what you do you fucking wizard of Wall Street
Starting point is 00:39:06 whatever he wants I'm sure they all agree that this is a great vibe I'm glad that he at least capture the thing that I was the most irked by was his communication with Epstein. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:17 How ashamed I am by my communication. And nothing that was indicated or suggested by that communication. Oh, by the way, he's Mr. Epstein now because y'all seemed like very friendly and informal in those conversations. I thought you were his wingman, dude. Like that, you seemed like you guys were brothers. That's some dude, that's just some fucking guy, man.
Starting point is 00:39:37 And I shouldn't even, I shouldn't even emailed him anyway. Today's lecture is about multilateralism and its future in the G20. You're like, oh, uh-huh, thanks. Today's lecture is on the economics of blackmailing and how you can work for the CIA and the government. And do whatever the fuck you want to. And shout out to Harvard, man, that he was just still there. quote launch a new investigation into Summers.
Starting point is 00:40:07 What is the last one? What is the last one? The last one went well, actually. We actually found out he was really good. So we might need to do a little better with our investigation. Yeah. This is the kind of shit where it's like,
Starting point is 00:40:19 like, these are, this is the low hanging fruit to bring these people to account of like the Larry Summers types where you're like, you're here, you're in the emails. I don't know the fuck your relationship is, but like you have no business being out here in like,
Starting point is 00:40:33 the normal world anymore, let alone teach, like, lecturing at fucking Harvard, my, they have to pass their wisdom onto the, because they do, like, all those people, I feel like, have bought into their own myth that, like, the reason they're so much richer than everybody is because they're that much smarter. So, like, they have a hundred times more money than most people. That's because they're 100 times smarter. So the idea that he, has now been, like, publicly, you know, ostracized, but, like, he still want, like, it's important to him to continue to be like, I, like, what, you want me to not pass this fucking galaxy brain onto the children of the future? Come on. I think he's like, you are so eminently replaceable. Oh, yeah. All you do is carry water. You carry water for the most powerful people in the given system. that you work under.
Starting point is 00:41:34 That's what you do. And that's how you've gotten all the success, is you're just doing the thing that all the people with all the money and power want to be done, and then you get benefits from that. Yeah, yeah. Okay, but before we squid games this,
Starting point is 00:41:49 I am going to bring it back. We can watch the shit out of this, but then the actionable shit afterwards, I don't want to hear any more about how unlikable a woman is at your workplace. Oh, yeah, that was also in New York Times. That was the New York Times. The New York Times, a publication that just was like, did women ruin the workplace?
Starting point is 00:42:13 Even they were like, no, I think we're going to let this guy go. That's the New York Times, but I hear it from every guy, you know, oh, this fucking woman at my workplace, you know, no, but she really sucks. You know, no woman has sucked this much. Right. Yeah, right, exactly. Not this much, okay, ever. Like, I don't care how annoying she is, how shrill she is, how squeaky she is, how whiny she is. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:38 How bossy, how bitchy. Do whatever the fuck she says. Oh, my God. I hear it all the time. God. Who do you hang out with? She's better than me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:48 I do just want to, like, while we're on the topic of rich people thinking that they have, like, galaxy brain and that we, like, they're doing us a favor by even, like, first of all, they love to be like, I, created so many jobs as if that wouldn't have happened without them. But they also, I think they really feel like we need them. And Miles, you found this Bill Ackman fucking thing, where he came out and was like, a little advice from an old man who's fucking killed it. Okay. With women. Like, because Bill Ackman, obviously, you've probably heard us talk about him. He's a fucking billionaire hedge fund, dude. Persian Square Capitol is his hedge fund. And he's,
Starting point is 00:43:33 we've probably talked about him recently because he was shitting his pickleball shorts over the election of Mom Donnie. Yeah. And he's constantly giving out. He was one of the first people to move out of New York City. Yeah, and never do it. And I think, and then we also talked about his,
Starting point is 00:43:45 what was that, where he bought his way onto a pro tennis. He bought his way onto the professional tennis tour and then got rinsed. And then, but like, wouldn't accept it. He was like, there was something off today. Like my, I think my strings were too loose or something at the racket. Oh, something about the racket, I think. No, it's because you're a fucking idiot who just bought his way onto here because you live in a fucking simulacrum. Anyway, this is what he posts.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I'm just going to read his whole fucking banger tweet about relationships. I quote, I hear from many young men. Oh, God, here we go. That they find it difficult to meet young women in a public setting. In other words, the online culture has destroyed the ability to spontaneously meet strangers. As such, I thought I would share a few words that I used in my youth to meet someone that I found compelling. I would ask. Sir, real quick, what does he mean by it's difficult to meet young women in a public setting?
Starting point is 00:44:40 And why is he meeting young women? This is based off of him watching the Fresh and Fit podcast on YouTube or Rumble or some shit. And he's like, I'm surprised he didn't say females at some point. But anyway, this is what he's saying. This is what I would do. Quote, I would ask, may I meet you? Before engaging further in a conversation, I almost never got a no. It inevitably enabled the opportunity for a further conversation.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I met a lot of really interesting people this way. I think the combination of proper grammar and politeness was the key to its effectiveness. You might give it a try. And yes, I think it should also work for women seeking men, as well as same-sex interactions, woke. Okay. And then the last one. This is good. Just two cents from an older, happily married guy concerned about our next generation's happiness and population replacement rates.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Whoa. It's always the population shit with these fucking people. It's either wrapped up in their like fucking, you know, oligarch brain where they're like, I need more bodies to fucking exploit and consume or it's fucking it starts winding down. Or it's the fear of the brown planet thing too. Just two cents from an older, happily married guy with love in his heart and eugenics on my brain. Exactly. Yeah. Population replacement rates is kind of crazy, though, because I don't think I've ever seen, like, when he described his approach of, may I meet you, there were literally hearts coming out of his eyes.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Yeah. He was spanning himself with a stack of $100 bills, as he said it. Listen, as a young woman, who's 45. Canonically Genzy, I just, you know, that's that, what do you call it, warmth? Yeah. May I meet you? Right, looking in my eyes as like the vehicle for population generation. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:48 It's just such a turn on. May I meet you? What is your breeding viability? May I meet you? To evaluate? Do you mind if I bring calipers? Do you mind if I measure your skull circumference? What?
Starting point is 00:47:04 Nothing, nothing, nothing. May I meet you? I mean, he did, and it was hot. It's always like this advice from people who do not live on the same fucking planet as we do. Like, we're like, I'm worried about y'all happiness. worry about the fucking income inequality then. Mm-hmm. Like, you wonder why, like, there was a whole thing, too.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I was looking at how the under five population is swinging in certain places. Like, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, these really expensive cities, they're like hemorrhaging, like, young families because they're just so hard to afford to live in. And it's going up in other places that are more affordable. I'm like, that's your fucking issue. It's not that. Exactly. May I meet you?
Starting point is 00:47:46 Uh, it's, I can't fucking afford to fucking live. And that's the fucking rough. Like, again, so first of all, we've just, we've seen the dip shittery in the Epstein emails of, like, Larry Summers being like, what do I say to her? And Jeffrey Epstein being like, you did well by expressing disapproval that you had planned a vacation for her and she left you for a guy on a motorcycle, very strong of you. Like, the fact that they just, they're in this world where, like, their wealth just. surrounds them. They just have not taken a single breath outside of just a world where everybody is just kissing their ass constantly. And so they're just like gassed up on this idea that everything they say is so fucking wise. And now I feel like we all looked at the Epstein emails and we're
Starting point is 00:48:35 like, that's so weird that everyone was like my sex guru, aka child trafficker. What shall I say? Bill Ackman looked at it and was like, there's a hole in the market here. These people need to hear from a pickup artist like myself. Right, right, exactly. A lot of people, like, it's funny when you tweeted it, they're like, yeah, all right, asshole, what? Because you told him you're a billionaire?
Starting point is 00:48:58 And he's like, I was, this was working for me when I didn't even have two nickels. And you're like, yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, sure, sure. Go ahead. May I meet you? It's also always weird when these guys, like, have their pickup lines, like, that they want to, like, bequeath unto us. like so fresh in their memory as happily married men.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Right. The fact that he thinks this is such a good line, may I meet you? Are you fucking kidding? You should see it. He's cheating on his wife. You know he's cheating on his wife. You know what I mean? And you know he's using his money to do it.
Starting point is 00:49:32 The bootlicker fucking replies in this tweet are just so funny. Like, it's a mix. There are people who are real life people. Then they're like bots. And then they're like the people who are so capitalism pill. that they're like, this is actually brilliant. But someone, I like one person is like, an even better way to do it is with no exception
Starting point is 00:49:49 or no expectation in return, you know? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, agreed, agreed. Agreed. I don't understand anything. It's not always for procreation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and move on to billionaires who are ruining the film industry.
Starting point is 00:50:05 We'll be right back. Okay, okay. Maybe you. Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a Google Doc. And send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one-page business plan for you.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Here's the link. But there was no link. There was no business plan. It's not his fault. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet. My name is Evan Ratliff. I decided to create Kyle, my AI co-founder, after hearing a lot of stuff like this from OpenAI CEO, Sam Aldman. There's this betting pool for the first year that there's a one-person billion-dollar conference.
Starting point is 00:50:43 which would have been like unimaginable without AI and now will happen. I got to thinking, could I be that one person? I'd made AI agents before for my award-winning podcast, Shell Game. This season on Shell Game, I'm trying to build a real company with a real product run by fake people. Oh, hey, Evan. Good to have you join us. I found some really interesting data on adoption rates for AI agents and small to medium businesses. Listen to Shell Game on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:51:13 A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers, but it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zeman, and this is Monster, hunting the Long Island serial killer, the investigation into the most notorious killer in New York, since the son of Sam, available now. Listen for free on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:51:43 All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.
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Starting point is 00:54:21 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Fox News, their number one story for like the first day. Their number, their going concern for the first decade in existence was the war on Christmas. Yeah. AKA anyone being like, we're as a corporation have made the decision that it allows us to reach a broader swath of our potential consumers. If we say stuff like happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas, you know, if we're just like, happy holidays, this is a holiday season in our country.
Starting point is 00:55:12 So, you know. Did you tell my grandmother to burn in hell right now? No, I just said, happy holiday. There's many holidays. So they took that and we're like waging, woke America's waging the war on Christmas. And they don't want us to even have fucking Christmas parties anymore. Now they want it to be face neutral holiday parties, which is never like that it's always been over exaggerated from the start.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Yeah, the Starbucks Cup. It's like commie red, you know? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, come to think of it, so Santa Claus. Hey, something's going on here. Yeah. Probably started by those women malls, Santa. Yeah, that's what I think.
Starting point is 00:55:53 But, so, you know, this particular holiday season, everybody's bracing for higher costs, even though Trump has claimed prices are falling, everybody with eyes that tell information to their brain, as Jeffrey Epstein so helpfully pointed out in his season. email to himself titled Breakthroughs, Eyes Transmit Information to Brain. Is that true? Oh, yeah. He just, like, sent himself this, like, series of high thoughts that were, like, so dumb. They're so dumb.
Starting point is 00:56:26 It's just like, it breaks your soul even further. You're like, just skin part of brain, membrane. But he spelled it membrane. Yeah. And then, yeah. He taught high school math at a private school. It's so crazy to watch him try to put a sentence together. Beard and mustache, trap smell?
Starting point is 00:56:46 Oh, yeah, that's right. That was just like, for what? Why even? Yeah, okay. One of the line items was just groups versus individuals. That was it. Question mark, question mark. I think this is a good point to Chelsea, you're underrated.
Starting point is 00:57:02 It was like, just write that shit down and no one's ever going to have to see that. Yeah. Hensel, maybe. Like, if people saw the notes I take. on creative ideas? Everyone would give up on me. Yeah. If you're writing a secret, make it so you can burn it. That's what I say. Or just, you know, or it's written in a way where it's like, I know how these words are going to hit my brain and reactivate the idea. Anyone else would be like, I think you're a child and you have a childlike perspective on everything. And that might be
Starting point is 00:57:30 true. But anyway. But yeah, anyways, this is all to say, if literally this is only a story that could have come out on Fox News because if anyone had said it anywhere else, Fox News would have, like, broken. They would have, like, gone so hard about how people were trying to cancel Christmas. But because it's Fox News and because they are backed into a corner of having to talk to real people who are being affected by the economy while also trying to hold water for Trump's economy, they've gone to this during a segment about tips to save money during the holidays, guest Jade Warshaw argued that adults don't need gifts. Focus on the people in your life who are age 3 to 18. Grandma doesn't need slippers. If they don't live by you, don't get
Starting point is 00:58:18 them a gift. Hearing it said earnestly on a news show is like, again, people can't afford shit. So this is a new rationale, right? To be like, yeah, fuck Christmas anyway. Budget, budget, budget. You need a plan. Also remember, adults don't need gifts. Okay. Focus on the people in your life who are age three to 18. Grandma doesn't need slippers. If they don't live by you, don't get them a gift. Now's not the time to spend and break the bank sending packages across the country, Dana. Focus on the people in your life ages three to 18. That's my 30 seconds for you. That's my 30 seconds. You know what I mean? No gifts. No gifts for infants. Hold on. Fuck grandma. Leave the baby 18. Your cousin's had a baby man. I, to quote Michael Jordan, fuck them kids.
Starting point is 00:59:06 You know what I mean? It's in this economy, no. You know who doesn't give a shit about toys? Two-year-old. Yeah. I'm surprised they're not defining adults as three to 15 at this time. Yeah, I know. That's right.
Starting point is 00:59:18 It's getting there. Where's the conservative news math on what is a child when it comes to pedophilia and what is a child when it comes to gift giving during Christmas? Yeah, yeah. Can you reconcile those two numbers, please? that by the way that uh a woman who was on there is jade war show was like on the dave ramsie show who's like you know a lot of people know him like this financial guru dude he's also like out there christian conservative guy like he fired his employees for premarital sex yeah wow fired them for premarital sex dude knowing that your employees are having premarital sex should be
Starting point is 00:59:56 disqualifying for public life why do you know that they're having premarital sex don't worry about They admit it. They admit it. He admitted. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. He admitted it. And you're fired now because you said you had sex before you made. One, like, really goofy part of all this war on Christmas stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:18 We did an episode called War on Christmas that I will push, like, many years ago. But the history of Christmas is such that the Puritans, who I would say are these people's cultural ancestors, they banned Christmas. They hated it. They thought it was overly decadent. Right. And it's like, so we're going, you know, we're returning to basically what their proto religious icons rejected. So it is just, they don't know. I mean, they don't know that. In the same way, they're becoming Nazis. Yeah. Yeah. Right. They're just taking a trip through all the best people in history. Yeah, definitely. The witch burners, the people who did the Holocaust, they're killing. They're like, you know why your grandpa couldn't hug anyone, right? It's because of World War II and all the shit that it did do them. But you guys just called them a tough bastard. Anyway, and now he's spinning in his urn because you're cosplaying as a Nazi, but yeah, sure. CNN jumped on this and was like, I feel like this might be Fox admitting the economy is in the toilet because elsewhere, they're like, the economy is thriving. But just so, you know, you can't buy people Christmas presents.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Because the economy is so good, I guess. Don't worry about it. Just shut the fuck up. It's so patronizing because it's like how you try. try and convince a kid like to not do something like oh doing that is not cool that's actually not good they don't need it they don't don't need that actually christmas gifts this year not good for adults actually really dumb to do actually food food is like such an indulgence guys in potable water it's like come on for child's play like yeah i just seeing them shift the goal post
Starting point is 01:01:57 slate actually wrote an article it's time to stop giving gifts to adults there's one and the Guardian, my family has got a lot better since we stopped giving presents. I actually was just talking to somebody who was like, yeah, my family doesn't celebrate anything. Wow. We believe in nothing? We believe in nothing, Labowski.
Starting point is 01:02:17 So this is a point that's been made before. I don't think it was made in direct reference to how shit the economy was in the past. But I do, like, anytime it's framed as like unnecessary consumerist impulses where you're just like buying a present to buy it. It's just like it seems like a lot of this could be addressed by just like being better at giving gifts, not giving shit that people are going to immediately like throw in the trash. Be precise. Yeah. Yeah. I bought 50 AirPods cases in bulk that I'm just going to hand out to people, not even knowing if they have them, but I just need to
Starting point is 01:02:54 give somebody something. Can never can never use too many of these. Are the Fox News people doing any kind of like smokescreen shit of like Christmas is about being together and you know or they just like don't get gets they're not quite there yet I think they're still trying to do a thing where they're trying to act as if they are dealing with reality and like prices are high and here's some budgeting tips I don't think they haven't quite it's that would be something to really hit just trying to ship gears ideologically that quick to be like it was actually never about this ever ever it should be just about the vibes folks not the presents And I always have that attitude of like, it's so obvious that you, I would have figured it out yet.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Right, right, right. Yeah. Telling you to be hyper consumerists our whole career. You want presents for questions. Again, this isn't going to bode well for a country that has been so, had the marketing hammered into your skulls since birth that you must consume. Yeah. This isn't going to happen that easy, but God, just go ahead. I take umbrage with targeting grandma.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Why are we? I know. What the fuck? And slippers. Slippers aren't like some crazy indulgence. It's wild that they're targeting grandma since those are the only people who watch Fox News, right? Yeah, true. And, but I do feel like she kind of has a point in the sense that there might be like a karmic debt for that generation.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Like they're the generation that broadly has hoarded all the wealth. They tend to be the ones who are watching Fox News. So I feel like if your grandma was a Fox watcher Oh, I think if you might have my permission to not buy them slippers You just you just have an ironclad argument for your Fox watching family to not buy them presents You're like I was just watching and they said no adult presents this year So I'm not buying anyone who I've ever seen watch Fox presents this year But why do I think that they still expect presents?
Starting point is 01:04:57 Of course, that's what's so, yeah, stupid about all of this. It is also like such an American ass, like, you know, Fox News just like being the most American values, which is just like, stick them in a home, fuck them. They're no longer useful to us, you know. Stick him in a home that won't even be subsidized by Medicaid. No. Right. Whoops. Go bankrupt.
Starting point is 01:05:20 What about that part? There's another act coming up that we'll have to reckon with. Yeah. I mean, it's funny because I do, I totally get like. There have been years, too, or, like, Hermacity and I are like, man, let's not do presents. Because it is, it's a, it can be a burden to try and, like, give a good gift. It's a nice. I have to effort to give good gifts.
Starting point is 01:05:40 I'm not like, I know people who are so gifted. And the pun is intended at identifying, like, a good gift for someone. I, like, it's come to the point, like, with Hermazine, like, if she says something, like, offhandedly, I'm like, I'll put that in the fucking note. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe this can be a fucking gift. That could maybe be a gift. Yeah, and I'm like writing. Yeah, I'm writing down like Titanic Cruise.
Starting point is 01:06:04 And I'm like, what the fuck was this? What the fuck was this? I'm fucked. Oh my God. It is that phenomenon too of like when you're a kid and you're obsessed with one thing. Like mine was wolves, right? And then you're in your 30s and you're getting wolf shit from your aunt and uncle. I don't really know you.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Yeah. It's like we don't have to do this. We don't have to do this. I get a book like comedy books, you know? I'm sure. from people, like anything from the humor section. Yeah, yeah. Anything from the humor section.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Hey, you're the, you did a comedy thing. You know, Matt Graning before the Simpsons, he did these funny books. Life is hell. Check it out. But anyways, I feel I get all of your relative's presence if you can afford to. Don't, especially, like, I'd say the 18 to, or the 3 to 18, and then maybe skip up to the elderly. But the elderly get no fucking love and attack. for people in this world like that don't don't skip your grandma like you could come to an agreement
Starting point is 01:07:03 with your significant other that that's that's totally fine but like skipping out on the elderly just feels too much to uh no country for old men we're already skipping out and maybe like a good middle ground it's like get your grandma an experience take her somewhere yeah you know get get her take her out to dinner something like that you know you know whatever it takes something different Something different. I mean, unless they watch Fox News, in which case, you can just be like, just send them this clip. To set them like, no comment.
Starting point is 01:07:33 No comment. No comment. Yeah. Hey, it was going to get you slippers, but dot, dot, dot, dot, this link. But you're wearing this, you send a photo you wearing the slippers. Decided these are nice. Nice as hell. Feet are sweating now.
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