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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist. These are
some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment
laugh stravaganza. Uh, yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist.
What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Well, very typically this week, I, uh, I searched the term space potatoes. It is a term used to reference
objects that are not large enough en masse to become round in space.
And I wanted to figure out how formalize this term as,
because it's sort of a nickname for these objects, as it turns out.
I thought it might have...
There are some sort of frivolous terms in astronomy
that get stuck pretty hard and become more official.
Space potatoes, more of a nickname for these objects
that retain sort of an odd or lumpy shape.
But in my search, I learned that the Fisher Cats out of New Hampshire,
a, I want to say double A baseball team, did play as the Space Potatoes for a few games.
And I hope that that returns again next year.
They did three nights in 2025 as the Space Potatoes.
The logo is sick.
The merch sold out super fast.
But in trying to learn how formal a name Space Potato was,
I learned that it was really only formal for a New Hampshire AA baseball team for three games this year.
Still a good nickname, though, for objects that are not large enough to round out.
The logo is wild because it's like an angry potato either resisting being beamed up from a spaceship or getting sent down.
And it's like got a baseball bat and I'm like, I'm going to fuck all of you earthlings up right now.
Yeah, I'm going to beat every earthling at baseball.
It does seem like it's got flame coming off the top of his head.
So it does seem like it's coming at us as if it was sent by angry aliens.
Right, right.
Yeah. I was like, yeah, space potato. I was like, oh, God, in the era of internet lingo, I'm like, who is it? What do we call? Oh, yeah. That really could have gone a lot of directions. Yeah. But it is not a chocolate covered potato. It is indeed something that is not big enough to get rammed in space. Gravity ramp things out.
It was like a thing a boomer would call someone who like asks a weird, trippy question.
And a bunch of fucking space potatoes over here. Or maybe that astronaut Scott Kelly, if there's like anti-Irish sentiment.
Are you, space potato?
What the fuck, man?
So I didn't, I guess I hadn't really thought about the fact that it's, so planets round.
Yeah.
Good.
Because.
Closer.
A lot of gravity.
So a lot of mass, a lot of gravity.
So everything gets pulled in, pull in together.
Gravity works from the center out.
So as your mass increases, it depends on what you're made of.
So there's not a specific tipping point.
But depending on what accretes together, what globs together to create you,
a blob in space. Maybe it'd be going to become a planet. Maybe you're just an asteroid. I'm not
trying to, you know, dismiss the validity of asteroids. Just an asteroid? Oh my God. Come on, Kayla.
We don't agree with that take, listeners, just by the way. I want to distance myself from that day.
My words are my own. You're all heavenly bodies. But gravity works from the center and it,
it's active in all directions equally. So there's a tipping point in your size, depending on what you're
made of where the force of the gravity that you have becomes stronger than the material you're
made of. And when that happens, gravity can change the shape of that material. And the most natural
shape to take, if gravity's working from the center, equally in all directions, is a sphere.
So things tend to get rounded out once they have enough mass because of the effects of gravity.
Yeah. Are they like anomalous small things that end up getting out?
Anomalist?
Sure.
Yeah.
If it's made of is a low density or easily malleable, essentially gravity could round you out and you could be tiny.
I'm just trying to make sure there's paths for everyone.
Also, I said that the astronaut Scott Kelly, and I was like, wait, did I say Mark Kelly's name wrong, the senator who's also a NASA guy?
I heard Mark Kelly, but it could have because I know what you meant.
It's identical twin brother.
His identical twin brother is Scott Kelly also the astronaut.
Wait, have they admitted that?
Or are they just going around as one person?
trying to trick everybody.
I don't know yet.
That's what they should do.
Look, now we got to catch them.
Scott and Mark are such forgettable names.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're doing a prestige.
Yeah.
So, I mean, that goes along with the roundness of the earth.
There's that Neil deGrasse Tyson concept that if you shrunk our planet down to the size of a cue ball,
it would actually be smoother and rounder than a cue ball, even with like, all the mountains and shit.
Like, that's how perfectly round.
the planet Earth is.
We are pretty round.
We do have a little footbally bulge.
And Neil deGrasse can, he, he'll talk about this too.
Well, but he's not pedantic.
But he's not pedantic.
One thing about him.
Because of the moon's gravity shifting the center of our planet back and forth over time
as it swings around us, we have a little bulge.
We got a little football, American football.
Well, yeah.
Nudgy.
But yeah, if we were that dense, then we would be super, super smooth.
Could we have laid you down in your crib differently to not have your head
shaped like that as a baby?
maybe. But you know what? I still think you're beautiful. I still think you're beautiful.
Tori, what's something you think is underrated?
Using, I want to say air quotes, because people can't see me. Using poor grammar, I think is actually
awesome. I think there's a reason that we called, what we now call grammar, please. We used to call
them grammar Nazis back in the day. And there's a reason we called them Nazis. It's because
you're bad people. Like, let people just communicate. It's fine.
And so I am very pro using any kind of incorrect grammar.
If you are communicating in a way that, like, your audience understands you, you have successfully communicated.
Congratulations.
You don't get a cookie or a gold star or more rewards in heaven.
If you use the Queen's English, like, just let people be.
Well, what's like, what's one pet peeve you see where people are calling out, like,
irregardless.
Oh, like stuff like that.
Yeah.
Not like there, there or there.
I mean, who cares about that?
Like, again, if you know what the person's saying,
it doesn't actually, you know, if you're confused by it,
and this is where I personally, I hate the Oxford comma,
but I use it because it is clarifying.
So I'll just say that, right?
Just so that what I'm communicating is clear to people.
But I, you know, I stopped because Jack doesn't use one.
Hell yeah.
Don't use it.
That's a anti-LIP.
I use the New Yorker style guide.
You don't use an Oxford comma, do you, Jack?
I don't, no.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I'm not joking.
Early on in the show, when we would be writing together,
I would have like an Oxford comma.
And I remember you saying some shit about the Oxford comma.
Really?
I guess I don't need that shit.
What an asshole.
No, it wasn't even like an asshole take.
I was just talking.
I think I noticed, I was like, oh, you don't fuck with an Oxford comma?
And you're like, nah, not really.
I don't know.
And I was like, no.
And then I, like, it was sort of like one of those things.
I'm like, damn, are my job?
Ginko jeans, dorky now?
Yeah, the classic
peer pressure around an Oxford comma.
Damn, dude, using an Oxford comma?
Okay.
And then I start using it because you commented on my not using it.
And we're just ships in the night.
Yeah.
Oh, are you using it again?
Uh, no.
Are you?
Yeah, I agree with this take.
I think this is right.
I think spelling, all that shit.
I'm so bad at spelling now.
I've just been writing into programs that spell check shit for me.
For you?
Yeah.
Yeah, that I just have things that my son asked me in front of his friend, like at a Cub Scout meeting.
He was like, how do you spell business?
And I tried to spell it out loud for him.
And I was like, B-U-S-S-I-N-E-S-S.
And like the other dad was like,
No, no, no, no, no.
He's like, it's not Mississippi, dude.
B-I-S-I-N-E-S-Y-S-I.
Hold, now, you spelled Bussing.
I'm sorry, I thought that was what you said.
B-U-S-S-I-N.
Yeah, anything that I didn't spell correctly once word processor came along in, you know, middle school.
I still don't spell well.
Yeah.
And I'm all right with that.
And I'm all right with it.
Yeah.
It's how language innovates.
It's how we get cool things like, like Slop being our new word of the year.
Right.
But yeah.
Do you remember how they used to, do you remember how they every at the end of every year,
like a bunch of all the online publications would be like,
here's the slang words were canceling from this year?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was all like, it was all just like any word.
a black person had said in the last 12 months they're like never again it's like
never again that was fun while it lasted but we're done here all right there was like a yearly
thing online if you're online in like the mid aughts that was like every single December like
here's the words are canceling you can't you're not allowed to use slang it was just like someone at
some point was like you guys this is racist as fuck what are you doing like you're you're
You're the person who gets to delete words?
Really?
Stop, stop talking like that.
You know what we're doing?
We're not going to drink Hennessy at the club anymore.
I'm like, what the fuck is that?
And pull your pants up.
And we're not going to wear sneakers everywhere.
Oh, my God.
What is it?
I thought you were talking about words.
Now this is very just straightforward.
Boat shoes for everyone or bust.
Or golf polos.
That's the most casual thing I can bear to see is a golf polo.
That's right.
We were all dressed in business.
casual back than anyway. I don't know what the fuck we were doing.
Because because it was all the racist door shit.
That was like no hats,
no baggy jeans, no hoodies.
Dude. That was,
that was it. Totally. That's what it was.
That was the reason why we had to pull up looking like a fucking job interview.
Jesus Christ.
I had to remember buying leather shoes so I could go to the fucking club.
It was so stupid. And that was one of the real,
that's like I was off that shit so quick.
I was just,
it was like a waste of money and also,
I mean, I did have fun when I went,
but it.
No, it wasn't funny.
So are people saying grammar police now instead of grammar Nazis?
Like now that there's real Nazis?
Has there been a trend?
I think so. I've been saying grammar police.
Yeah, I mean, that's what I've been saying.
But maybe I'm just only in the woke corners of the internet and other people are still saying grammar Nazi.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It does feel a little weird to use Nazi lately now that we have.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it does.
what's something you think is overrated.
I don't know if this is going to step on future bits,
but I was going to say Erica Kirk,
not just like overrated in terms of like people like her
because it seems like they don't,
but like the idea that you're going to get insight
from the closest person to someone who died violently.
Like did you guys not see the Diddy documentary, the reckoning?
Yeah.
We tried this once and it worked out like really badly.
I just said this on Monday.
I said it's underrated that we're not like that Erica Kirk is the P. Diddy of right now.
Yeah.
She's doing the thing of like, okay.
So if I go out there and be like, he was my best friend and all this other stuff, it's like,
I can raise my stock for whatever the purpose is.
But it has a weird knock on effect of coming off very insincere, which I think for whatever
reason, a lot of people are like, she doesn't care.
I'm sure on some level she does.
It's just like the intensity of the PR after the fact to get out there is a little.
the assumption that she's going to have something valuable to say it's like she's out there on stage
talking over the sting song and we're all pretending that it's you know it's good but yeah yeah yeah and
similarly did he did not become a good rapper all of a sudden no we're like ah maybe this is going to be
the one yeah no that was my favorite part of like a communicable maybe it's like the santa claus
where it's just like on death passes to somebody who killed them or he starts gaining away like biggie
He's like, oh, shit.
Oh, my God.
My eye is starting to drift.
But, yeah, Erica, that interview, I mean, we could talk about that interview now because
it's that there's very little to learn from it.
But she went on CDS.
It'll make you dumber watching it, like much dumber.
She just really, I mean, she sounds like if you ask like an ordinary, you know, high school,
public high school like C student to like answer big questions on a thing like in the aftermath of
a tragedy and it's just like I don't know it's like he's his favorite word was earn and that's
because he really wanted he really liked people to earn stuff he was like the most brilliant man
ever of all that but that came out after barry Weiss astor you know just kind of like yeah a lot of people
we're like getting up, getting the words mixed up, huh? Like, it's pretty unfair. Like, what's
going on with them? Right. And, you know, like, and a lot of those words are things like, the
Second Amendment is worth a few dead bodies or the Civil Rights Act was a mistake or shit like that.
And I think she was like, oh, my God, guys. It's like, you need to see, you need like the whole
context of that clip, not just the sentence that's of a very clear value that he's espousing out loud on
live internet stream and then then you get the thing was like okay he it wasn't that he didn't
like black pilots he loved that people earned things and excellence do like black excellence that
was that was the one that she's like that one thing was somewhat taken out of context and that he
was using a that idea to argue against affirmative action yeah and therefore you're not allowed
to say anything bad about any of the other wild
He was not a shit.
He was allowed to talk about the fact that his last words were basically,
what about black crime?
Yeah, exactly.
This is the other thing, too.
What about black crime?
And then he got shot.
When asked about the Second Amendment thing about the gun deaths, she said, quote,
there's a lot more here, a lot more there than just the one little sentence.
But if you say shit, like, I hate black people.
I don't know how you dress that up on either side of that statement where you're like,
oh, he loves them.
Right.
It's like, no, you said that shit.
I was quoting someone else.
It's called tough love.
He wants them to earn his love.
That's why.
But again, that wasn't, that would be so vile if she tried to like sort of really fucking
skirt that and give that as an explanation.
But like to your point, these aren't, this isn't the person that could be defending it.
Because also it's indefensible.
Yeah.
She's also doing the thing that she talks sort of the way that like chat GBT does.
I don't know if you see those like chat GBT commercials.
It always has, like, this tone of fake portentousness where, or, like, fake, uh, you can say portentousness.
I believe you.
Like, it has this, like, false intentionality that you get, like, on LinkedIn where it's like,
the commercial will be like, uh, chat GPT, like, what, what's like a good date?
What's like a good first date activity?
And then the chat, GBT will be like, listen up, we got this.
Um, dash.
And, like, that's kind of like the way she was...
Competence and agreeableness.
Yeah, it's like, listen.
And it's like she's doing this weird amount of, like, prefacing where she...
Yeah.
She's taking these long, dramatic pauses and then saying the dumbest shit you've ever heard.
Yeah, she's been media trained, but like media training can't make you have anything smart to say.
No, yeah.
Well, and especially in the, again, the position you're in.
It's like...
Yeah, a very difficult position.
Like, you would need a...
really talented
you know
bullshit artist
you'd have to be the fucking
anti-christ
and be like actually
he didn't say that stuff
and I'm going to make you believe
he didn't mean
mean any of the bad stuff you said
there was another
like there was another part of that
same interview where they were
like asking her
if Donald Trump deserves
some of like the blame
for raising the tenor of
you know the political discord
like if he deserves
if he deserves the
same kind of backlash for like violent rhetoric as yes as everybody else they were talking to and she like
her answer was asked by the way by the last person who asked him a question at that debate before he was
shot yeah yeah he was like I'm still gonna ask a question yeah and then her answer was basically like
you know it starts at home and you're like well I don't think I don't think we can blame one person
it starts at home it's like she's just doing she's reading off like the list of
answers you give at a pageant.
And that was the one she settled on.
You know what?
It's really about parenting.
Okay.
Always has been.
So you're going to blame, you know,
people who are underemployed,
underpaid because of the terrible economy.
But I don't want to put it,
I don't want to like point the finger
at the most powerful and visible person in the world
and of the last 50 years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think we're good.
Anyways, I think she's doing great.
Let's take a quick break.
We'll come back.
We'll talk about the news.
We'll be right back.
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and we're back and a rare moment where the president is put outside of his comfort zone
asked to do something that like he wouldn't normally do and just has to like kind of improvise
on the spot and that that is tossing a coin doing the coin toss for the army navy
football game
and my God
I just saw again this
this was a very odd coin flip
let's we'll play the audio from it
and we'll watch it for a second but like just
know look it up because
I don't even know how to describe what it is
it's like whimsical, robotic
and mindless all at the same time
Mr. President
would you do the honor
he's got it in his hand he says oh look at it's like a magic trick
flat
he just
did it get one of the players
Army, you're going to die.
Um, okay.
So that was, I don't know if that was a flip more so as like letting a carrier pigeon go off into the sky.
Like, and even then I feel you're-
Having a child to a nanny.
It really had that energy.
Yeah.
Not a flip.
And I feel like for how like, you know, like most maga men are and how like rigid their idea of masculinity is,
I don't, I can't imagine any of them watch that and go like, holy shit, dude, Trump's
It was a little delicate.
Fucking wide, bro.
It was just like, it was just odd.
Like, it was also, I think just also, it was funny because my non, like, super into politics
friends, I mean, they're into it because, like, we talk about all the time.
But usually that's not the bulk of our conversations.
Yeah.
They were sending that to like, dude, what the fuck is this going to him?
Imagine committing a portion of your life to service.
In addition, risking your physical safety to play a game in honor of the branch of
the military you're served for. The commander-in-chief, the man in charge of your life,
comes out to toss a coin for you, and he basically just releases it to the wind with a gentle
touch of his calm. Yeah. And I get it. He's wearing gloves, and he's 79. He simply doesn't
have the motor control anymore to do that. With all that handshaking, it would have just contributed
to the bruise that we see forming. That's definitely not for an infusion due to dementia at all.
Yeah, yeah, right.
It might be some coin tossing injuries.
That's what Carol Lovitch should get right on that.
That's an excellent talking point.
He was working so hard to ace it for the Army Navy game that he took himself right out of contention.
And hit him right on the back of the hand where an infusion port would be.
Crazy.
Crazy how this fucking coin's out of control.
I mean, like, again, A, did it even flip?
And also, has he even seen a movie where, like, a character, like, flips a coin all cool?
Like, isn't that some shit from his era?
Like, people are like, like, see?
like flicking a fucking coin up in the air
and be like, wow, this guy's cool.
He's manipulating a coin with his hands.
And it's called flipping a coin.
Like, it's, that's the first thing he's.
Yeah, yeah, a neat in this instance that.
He did not seem familiar with when he went into it as he was executing it.
Yeah, he didn't seem to have much of an idea.
It does bring back when he drank water.
We got to see him drink water.
and like he had his like two little dainty like both of his hands were like holding either side and drank it like a like a squirrel like yeah or like a mouse eating a ritzcracker yeah yeah yeah
just like how do you hold a bottle like that okay wish i could dip this in chocolate that'd be great if that's what he needs to do to drink water like do it that's great but you should like hand shakes might be involved there you also don't get to make fun of people who don't have full
mandatory use of their body if you have to drink water that way.
Own it. Be that guy who's like, yeah, I'm president despite the fact that I have to use both
my hands to bring a glass to my lips. Like, awesome. I'm hurting for you. Could you imagine if he did that?
He's like, look, guys, I'll own it. I'm not as sharp as I used to be. But that doesn't mean I'm not
as dedicated as I've always been. And people are like, yeah, shit. Who is this? That is
dementia. That would require dementia for Donald Trump had that level of self-awareness. That's what I'm, God,
who knows what we're in store for as this because the frequency of the weirdo posts
increases just the behavior it gets more and more odd and we'll get into the Christmas reception
he had but also the polling right is not improving for Trump it could be all the new Epstein
photos of them together or maybe the you need more like what are people waiting like are we
trying to establish a connection between Trump and Epstein still like do you need more?
I just we're at this tip like you can't.
Moore isn't going to convince anyone who's not already convinced.
Caitlin, I saw the 15th picture this week, new picture of him hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein over the weekend.
I say, Caitlin, we got him.
We got it.
I think.
I've got some questions.
We've crossed the magical threshold that's going to make people start to suspect something might be up with this guy.
Right.
I mean, so there's a lot of controversy.
I mean, it's also, it could be the recession that shall not be named or we'll just keep saying.
I don't know.
The numbers are going down.
I don't know.
Payrolls contracting.
Let's name it, Becky.
Yeah.
But then, again, we don't know what it is, but right now he's at 42%.
And I just want to say, because he's lower on other.
This is a poll that has been like his strongest poll.
Yes.
And he's drop it like in other polls.
He's in the mid 30s.
This one, he was in like the mid to high 40s and now he's dropped to 42.
Every pole is pointing downward.
Everyone, yes.
And I think the real, the interesting wrinkle is like, I think it's Dan, like the people,
registered Republicans who don't identify as MAGA, they are, they are getting lower.
Like that, that cohort is becoming less and less on board with what's happening.
But what's interesting is that the people who have responded to the poll who are,
consider themselves, MAGA Republicans, they approved his job performance at 70%.
But that's a drop from 78% back in April.
So that's not a huge, that's not like nothing.
And again, that doesn't mean like, it's over, folks.
But I'm wondering, I'm wondering if it could just be all of the human suffering around him, that he has no, he has no interest in solving or remedying or he's not even capable of it.
But luckily, Trump is as sharp as a wine cork.
So he's got to get some action going on the economy.
And he said this at the Christmas, I believe it was at the Christmas reception.
this is just if you didn't know don't worry he didn't know where he was either so yeah yeah yeah
this is him again being like god the economy don't worry though i got i got someone in store and
the specificity of his plan i think it should make us all feel much better for the future to
europe they went to mexico japan they went all over they went to south uh south korea and now
it's just the opposite they're all coming back we're gonna we have an age that's coming up the likes of
which I don't think this country has, this country has never seen.
I think for worse, not for better, but okay.
And I just look so forward to the results.
You're going to see results in six months to a year.
I think you'll see results.
We've never had anything like it.
Again, there's never been any country, China.
Go on, just go on, no results like this that you'll see in six months to a year.
Who is he saying was leaving to go to other countries?
They were talking about just manufacturing and like other countries.
And they're coming back and we're the hottest thing.
He said an age, this is such like I'm not going to saw.
This is me in high school, like begging my high school girlfriend to not break up with me.
I'm like, babe, the miles you're going to see after summer break.
In six to 12 months.
The likes you've never seen.
The way he will listen to what you have to say, the way he will be more emotionally
present. Oh, I mean, you're never going to see something like this. But not going for,
not on a go forward basis in six to 12 months. I got, I need some time, babe. I need some time to
work on myself. Yeah, they didn't burn Rome down in a day, you know, or I don't know how that goes,
but, but yeah, we're talking six to 12 months. I'm sure, maybe he thinks he has that kind of time,
but again, this is, we're living in an era where they are distributing firewood.
for people whose power has been cut off
to be able to heat their homes
because energy costs have gone so high.
People's wages are down.
Like all these other things
and all he can muster up is like,
oh, guys, wait till you see this shit
I'm about to do with the economy in six to 12 months.
But it also doesn't help that he's also saying
that it's already awesome.
So it doesn't, like if I were worried about this economic situation
and he was like, first of all, it already rules.
Second of all, it's going to rule.
I'd be like that, maybe we have different definitions of like how good things.
No, it rules.
It rules.
And guess what?
It's going to rule even harder in about six to 12 months.
Right.
Okay.
Talking exclusively to the 10 people left who own companies.
Yeah, for real.
The audience here is very narrow.
But I can't help but thinking about campaign trail Trump, who was already off his rocker in
the second campaign, just like, you know, the most recent.
I'm going to get in there in two to three days.
I'm going to fix everything that this last guy missed.
I got Ukraine, 23 minutes.
Economy, 16 minutes.
I got this.
You're all going to be billionaires in 16 minutes.
I actually have the first day on a Google calendar.
And he just holds up like a my first calendar or a piece of paper.
Is that a Kathy?
With Googling eyes on it.
The weather report has like a frowny-faced rain cloud on it.
I think that's the longest timeline for a goal I've ever heard him issue.
And I also think he mistook a diagnosis in terms of like lengths of life left for his most recent doctor's visit.
In six to 12 months, the economy might get better.
There is a chance.
There is a chance.
That could be terminal, sir.
He is just like.
Love that movie.
The way he's being carefully bandated and just sort of.
of led around a White House full of signage to let him know what room he's walking into at this
point.
Like, we know the characters behind the scenes that are just, like, just pushing at his
diapered rear, holding him in place so that they can just stay behind the scenes to do what
their city.
Like, Russ Watt is delighted.
Stephen Miller is perfectly happy to let a tottering Trump just sort of toddle his way
through the White House bumping from sign to sign to identify where the Oval Office is.
The theory that the ballroom...
This is Oval Office?
The ballroom is just to keep him busy.
Like, it's doing two things.
It's distracting an agitated dementia patient, and it's allowing him to recreate an
environment that's familiar to him.
So should he live long enough to see the ballroom, it will look just like Marlago,
which he just sort of screams like he's in all the time.
Sure.
Yeah.
It's giving drunk Lucille.
Yeah, it's also giving parents in the 80s and how they would deal with children,
is go to McDonald's and put them in the ballroom.
Yes, yeah, exactly.
They're just like, I don't know, give them a ballroom.
Uh-huh.
Oh, I mean, there was Kevin Hassett, who's the Economic Council Director,
was on Face the Nation on Sunday, and he was asked directly, like,
Trump's just kind of like lying about the economy.
He was just out here in Pennsylvania saying like, shit's better, but it's demonstrably not.
Better than anyone has ever seen.
Yeah, and he was asked point blank, like, like, what do you?
even fucking measuring this off of. And I think the answer is pretty telling. What data is he
looking at? What's your benchmark? Right. Well, one of the things that if you saw his presentation
in Pennsylvania, as he put up a bunch of charts, which he loves to do, where he went through
the individual items that we've already sort of made a bunch of progress on. And so, for example,
under Joe Biden, prescription drugs were up 9%. So far this year, they're down 6 tenths of a
percent. Gasoline is way down. It was like the highest ever under bottom. And so on. Yeah. He was talking about eggs. And so I think the way to think about inflation, of course, is that there are like micro effects like the time. All that to say is what he mentioned were things that are pretty like meaningless in the grand scheme of. Like that's pretty, uh, cherry picked information to. Cherry picking. Yeah. There's a this one. Cherry pick is cheaper than ever. It's never been cheaper. It's been to go gas.
gather fruit from your neighbor's yard to prevent your own starvation.
Never been cheaper to go labor in fields.
That is never been cheaper to hire laborers.
Oops.
Sorry, I wasn't supposed to say that one.
Jesus.
But yeah, they're coming down.
They're coming down.
And it's stuff we've made progress on already is like, I think, again, not anything new,
nothing you're going to do in the future, just dumb talking points where you're like,
I don't know, incidentally, comparatively this price came down.
So we're going to go ahead and say, we're doing, we're doing shit.
As he pointed out, the price of pharmaceuticals has come down six tons of a percent.
Six tons of a percent.
Damn, we're hanging our hat on six tons of a percent.
Yes, we are.
We're not even printing pennies anymore.
How are we supposed to get change for that?
It is wild how, like, I really get the sense that everybody behind the scenes talks about him like a toddler.
Like, he was like, he was like, he mentioned eggs.
He was like, yeah, yeah, he mentioned it.
Like, that's a parent talking about their child's weird obsession with like eggs.
He said he likes turtles?
Yeah, he loves turtles.
A little fucker loves turtles.
I mean, they asked him about the cutter you.
I like turtles.
Oh, yeah, he loves the president loves turtles, doesn't he?
It is going to be, I think, increasingly like an unprecedented, you know, what would Reagan's second term have looked like if nobody could tell him, no, you're not allowed out in the public eye.
And he was just like, yeah, I'm actually a fucking genius.
Everything that comes out of here is motherfucking bars.
homie. Yeah. Mint that.
Mit that shit. That's right.
That shit. I mean,
briefly, those pictures came out.
90 out of 95,
the Trump administration, again,
went with cherry picking, which
they were like, you guys are just
cherry picking pictures of me with
a child trafficker.
What about all the times I didn't hang out with
him? Why aren't you releasing photos of those?
Because your daughter is still getting
groped in those photos and you're still surrounded
by 15-year-olds in your beauty patch.
Like, it's harder to pick photos in which you do not look like a lecherous monster.
87 of 90 is what I went in those pictures.
87 of those I wasn't in.
That's like an A-minus, you know?
Right.
Let's talk about that.
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
I'd have to say.
The thing that you were just playing where he was talking about the economy and how it's
going to be so good in a year, that came from his, like, Christmas reception that happened
over the weekend.
First of all, he was, like, sweating profusely, which I don't know, man.
Like, he usually is pretty dry.
So he's really kind of all over the place.
It's the water.
He can't really.
It's just splashing it in his face, a drinking problem.
But he ended up spending 40 minutes talking about venomous snakes.
You want to hear that?
Hold on.
Let's, let's not, let's, let's, he might have said,
something cool at a Christmas reception in some respects it's cool yeah in uh Peru in uh Peru
Peru it's like we're in uh you're at Christmas risk okay going what about Peru sir and it's known
for being a rather rough place in terms of physical creatures crawling around 28,000 people die a
year from a snake bite a certain snake it's a viper right it's said to be the most poisonous snake in the
world okay i mean he sounds like he's about to fall asleep like imagine being there dude's room
he's drowning in his own mind and he's grasping at things that seem tangentially connected to what
he's talking about to seem like he's got it together like he's like he knew he had something to say
about Peru and then he just
rattled off him like the viper does not
cause the most deaths. Come on
no. Like you can look this up.
But anyway, sure. Or maybe you're
talking about specifically somewhere I don't fucking know
but that's his whole like
why be like that's known for
some snakes, huh?
The stage of life
is usually limited to your family
or drug caretakers. Where
like you're just getting driven
to your next MRI
and whatever kind soul in your life
is still able or willing to drive you,
just sits there and goes,
there are a lot of snakes in Peru, grandpa.
And like, none of this is based in any kind of,
we've all known that grandpa and talking at Christmas dinner
isn't spit in facts.
Grandpa talking at Christmas dinner is just remembering a dream
he had about snakes in a place he decided was Peru.
It's, it's confusing people with other family members.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
You're like, George, George, is that you?
Which also happened immediately after that.
that. I do just want to play this clip where he stops his speech to talk about how he keeps
confusing someone in the crowd with Ivanka.
Like, it's so wild. And then he's like, look, turn around. Let everybody see how much you look
like about it. He said, turn around for the cameras. Like, what was the fucking beauty? Whatever.
Here we go. This is the most interesting story. What do you look like Ivanka? Has anyone
ever told you that? I'm looking at, I'm saying, is that if I could you just turn around for the
camera. Does she look, does she look like Ivanka? It's the most unbelievable thing.
So I wouldn't, I didn't want to take a chance. I say, is that Ivanka? You look just like
Ivanka, which is a great couple. You look just like Abacca. I like Sir Jabaca. I love you.
I didn't want to take a chance. Did he mean that he like didn't want to call out in case it was.
In case it was Ivanka? In case it was Ivanka, maybe. That's your daughter. I think he's wandering around the White House just being like,
Jared?
Like, no, it's Stephen Miller.
I'm not your son-in-law.
This is your second minute.
They don't talk to you anymore.
Are you Ibaka?
Are you Ibaka, sir?
I think anybody with blonde hair and brown roots just get screened at.
Yeah.
Again, like this obsession with, we see this in at the end of Magnolia with people dying.
We see it in all sorts of movies where they're like, I've made some mistakes.
go bring my son home so that I can
speak to him. He also spent, so from his
thing about snakes being deadly in Peru,
he then talked about how nature always wins. He then talked about
how when he dies, his son, Donald Trump Jr.,
is not going to spend much time there because he always
likes to go out and hunt. But then was like, maybe he shouldn't
be because nature
nature always wins, baby.
Yeah, he said, when I kick the bucket
someday, someday, I figure,
I think he'll be here for about two days.
He'll go and pay his respects, and he'll say,
where's Don?
He'd rather be in some jungle.
You won't be there, bro.
And he's a really good hunter, but remember this,
wildlife always wins, unfortunately, in this case.
So your son hates you so much,
he'd rather be outside killing ass.
And then you implied that by missing your funeral
to go hunt animals,
he will then be killed.
Like he's like, right?
Isn't that what he's saying?
But you never know.
Remember this.
Wildlife always wins.
Unfortunately in this case.
Or in this case,
it means that wildlife will always,
his son will always prioritize
not being around him in favor of wildlife.
Yeah.
That's,
yes.
Your children aren't in the room, sir.
Ivanka is not here.
Don Jr.
would rather shoot an endangered animal
than be in the same space with you.
Like that's,
Yeah, because he can at least do cocaine on his hunting trips without being embarrassed.
He's like, it's going to be really hard to be snorting coke at the whole.
The idea that he's a good hunter.
Like, he pays to have good hunters take him out and tell him where to point his high-powered rifle to kill things.
He'd have no idea how to.
They capture a rhinoceros and put it in a steel box with a hole in it, right, where its head is.
And they say, yeah, go ahead, just put your gun in the hole and pull the trigger.
And they go, good shot, sir, you got it.
Yeah.
I have always had trouble humanizing Trump in any way.
He's a very easy figure to just sort of viscerally hate, but he is not planning this anymore.
Like, when Trump's, like, narcissism and egot mania was at the wheel and driving, it was much harder to humanize him.
But he is deep in a cognitive decline.
Yeah.
And is no longer, his hands can't even find the steering wheel.
We watched him try to flip a corner.
So he's in a Christmas, trying to celebrate Christmas and asking for his daughter and aware that his son will not mourn him.
Right.
Like, just Christmas very ghosts of Christmas past all the way down.
The well of empathy here is shallow, but like what we're watching is a deep decline.
And it is like, the best you can hope for at this phase of your life is that your family is in the room and does care for you.
And they do not.
They are not there.
I mean, it sounds like, yeah, it's playing out just as American as possible, too.
Yeah.
Where it's just like, yeah.
And you know what, dude, fuck you, man.
We're going to inherit your money.
And then you could just go here.
But I think the hard part, too, is like just like with my own, in my own family,
just having like family members have dementia and things.
Like the thing that really freaks me out is that like he's in power as all of this is melting away.
A sign has to point him to the office.
His administration is in power.
He is, like, using the contents of his dipey to draw a new image of a dangerous snake that he says it's from Peru.
Like, he is not in the building anymore.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's, it's fucking frightening.
It's frightening.
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And the New York schools banned phones at the beginning of the year.
Their thing was like, kids are on their phones in the classroom.
we've got to stop this shit.
And so they banned them,
they gave the kids the little pouches
to put your phones in.
Oh, like at the comedy mothership?
Yeah, exactly, at the comedy mothership.
So now the teachers can
finally.
Finally.
The special ed teachers are like,
finally, I'm about to let y'all know
what the fear like, oh, no, no, no.
Oh, no.
You know, part of me, I think a lot of people
were like, teenagers are smart.
They'll find ways to get around this shit.
Right.
This shit isn't going to work.
But overall, like, the effect, so the New York Mag went back and, like, checked in on the schools.
And it's kind of crazy to hear, like, at one high school, so this is one example of, like, what I thought would have it.
At one high school, an entrepreneurial senior bought a pouch unlocking magnet on Amazon and tried to charge classmates a dollar per jail break.
That's worse.
That was me.
That was me as fuck.
But generally, they say, there's, quote,
a pleasant buzz in the lunchroom, chatter in the hallways,
and an alphabet of new analog hobbies popping up just about everywhere.
They have card games, board games, sports equipment.
One teacher hands out volleyball every lunch period.
That's weird.
He hands out volleyball, listen to it.
It gets weirder.
It gets weirder.
He said the kids are playing this.
He said, it's no net.
open space forming their own circles of 10 or 12 kids hitting it up to each other an equal
number of girls and boys oh so most i hate this most boring ass that i hey i guess we could just
bump the ball around sticks and shit like they're going back to the kid hitting a hoop down the street
by with a stick i also love that they've been so on their phones just like wee ball yeah exactly
that's what i'm saying like the kids could figure this shit out if they wanted to right right i don't
think they want to figure it out.
I don't think...
We're hard-lined to
just be playing with each other, yeah.
Aiden Amin, a ninth grader at Hunter
College High School. You say Idi Amin?
Aden. Oh, sorry.
I was like, what?
Why? Yeah, is that weird?
Is that a guy?
I don't know.
Idi Amiens hiding out as a ninth grader
in Hunter College High School, is in a
friend group that congregates in the school
for Foye to stack okay
play tiles and compete at
Sari and other tabletop games
during lunch, quote, I'd say it's made us closer.
Honestly, half the people I'm playing board games with, I didn't know at all before this.
Damn.
I didn't realize how cooked these kids were.
Yeah, like we weren't playing board games at lunch.
I know, but we didn't have phones, so we were just, like, talking shit and, like, making fun
of each other, like, you did.
Like, they need to have their hands.
They'll discover that in the spring.
They'll discover talking shit and making fun.
But, like, it really feels like they've, like, gone back.
It really reminds me of, like, the end.
of Wali when like
their devices go down and they just like
look around and they're like, huh?
Like they wake up from like a 40 year
nap. Right, right, right.
It's a lot of gambling, it seems like. Kids are
like gambling with hair ties. It sounds a lot
like prison. They're like,
yeah, they're playing poker gambling for
hair ties and then there are side wagers
going on on the games.
Prop bets.
Prop bets on the gambling, on the poker games.
You know, the teacher's going to fall. You're going to fall. I got 20 on.
I got 20 on. Yeah, yeah. That is.
that is so wild because I do think about like how at my school like people were like people
had yo-yo's and shit right you know what we used to kick laws went through a yo-yo phase
and like my freshman year of high school we were hacking yeah you know uh god I mean like
it's it's it's heartening to hear that it's it was pretty seamless like where sudden it's like
no phones you're like board game talk to friend yeah I'm shocked I was not expecting that at all
yeah and the fact that they're like describing it as like an alien thing that there's a
buzz in the cafeteria when all the kids are there makes me realize that it was like dead
silent before and like that was actually something in our old uh our show miles and jack
i'm at boosties our old NBA show somebody was reporting that like now when you go into NBA locker
rooms at halftime it's dead silent because everyone's on their phones yeah no one's like talking to
each other everyone's just immediately goes to their phone to see what people are saying about the first
have. So like, yeah, I guess it was like weird silent spring shit in there, like, before this
in a way that I hadn't fully understood. And now they're like, it's crazy. The kids are like talking
again. Yeah. I mean, I love it. Yeah. It makes you realize like, yeah, through evolution, like this is
our normal mode of existence is to collaborate, to communicate, to hang out. And then like the glowing
screen in our hands had everyone just like looking down but I feel like I'm fortunate to be like
a 41 year old who still has a lot of those skills intact from like you know yeah but the pre phone
era or even like early phone because phones weren't even smart enough for me to be like on that shit
all the time no same I'm the same age I had a pager yeah right exactly the pager that was an absolute
waste of just what was the point of that yeah but you're
You got to put it in like a cool mint green case, you know, and make it customize it.
But I think, I mean, like, for me, like the most like exhilarating shit was like passing notes and shit.
Oh, right in a note.
And then someone being like, yo, did you see this note that Kristen Roe making?
And you're like, you got it?
And then you like reading it.
People were, I remember people with Xerox fucking notes in the library.
And like mass distribute like a messy note.
And they're like, yo, bro, they're not going to be friends anymore.
Oh, I miss that.
That's so beautiful.
they'll never know what that is.
The little notes that were folded, like origami.
Yes.
I'm sure they're, I mean, they got to be passing notes.
That's a tale of the old time.
They're evolving back to that.
They'll discover notes like next school year.
Yeah, T-I-82 calculator games, you know, playing mafia or whatever.
But like I do, I've always admired in this generation their ability to come up with creative
shit to do one board.
Like we've talked about the people who made a chocolate championship.
cookies with the like hand grabber toys like you weren't allowed to touch any of the ingredients
with your actual hands you had to like crack the egg with the hand graber and like there's uh
I was talking the other day about like kids who just like stood there trying to throw a piece
of fruit onto the pointy tip of a light pole for four hours and then they like got it and we're like
running around like they just scored the World Cup and like I yeah like I feel like maybe
by having, like, had to exist on these phones for so long,
they've given themselves a new...
They can be, like, boredom artists
where they, like, create great, creative things to do
out of just complete boredom.
A lot of those trick-shot things are just kind of,
like, TikTok live money grabs,
because it'll be, like, a kid trying to throw a quarter
in the slot of a piggy bank from, like, 10 feet away.
And, like, they're just sitting there with, like,
coins around, like, hey, what's up?
I just can't keep going.
And then people cut those down to like when they do it.
But there's like thousands of people just tune in to be like, I don't know, do this guy.
So want a ping pong ball off.
Yeah, off like 14 pans.
I understand it now.
Yeah.
I watch my mom.
Well, see, I'm not on TikTok, but my mom is a TikTok freak.
And I watched her make one yesterday and I couldn't believe it.
What was it up?
It was like she had an all-girl slumber party this weekend and they made a human bicycle.
what the fuck is that i'm going to link you guys so you can share it it's like there was like 10 women
and they formed a human bicycle and they like rode around but it was just women's bodies so they're
the wheels it's just women's bodies are the wheels four of them were the wheels sorry uh all right
we don't have to put this in the thing but what's her handle so i can summon the video and we
can watch really quick oh it's uh well she posted it on instagram too it's uh roya or rosaan yeah roi
Yeah, Rojahia, I think.
It's on there.
Foxy Roxy.
Yeah.
Foxy Roxy.
Yeah.
Okay.
Is it everyone wearing red?
Yeah.
It got bottles?
Yeah, it was everyone wearing red.
You just see this?
Oh, that's a, oh, my God.
Wait, hold on.
Wait.
Oh, my.
Sorry, we won't be able to play this, but hold on.
Wait till you see this part.
Where's the bicycle at?
I don't know. I think that one just went on TikTok. Oh, wow, wow, wow. Okay.
That's my mom, guys. Yeah. But having a good time, see?
Yeah, having a great time. That was cute how they turned a roll of paper towels into a trombone.
A trombone. That's my favorite part of the video, yes. Very interesting. Yeah. Beautiful, beautiful.
Amazing. Well, good luck to you young people, rediscovering what it's like to actually be aware of your existence.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hopefully this starts a trend. Finally, we just want to go out.
talking about Christmas movies.
There's a trend going around.
I guess NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour
debated the topic of the worst
Christmas movie of all time.
They mentioned jingle all the way.
Love actually Scrooge?
Oh, Scrooge and Marley.
Oh.
That's about Scrooge and Bob Marley?
Yeah.
That's right.
That sounds kind of tight.
There's a dog in it, no?
Or that's I love Marley.
Oh, that's Marley and me.
Marley and me.
Scrooge of Marley is a
Gay take on a Christmas carol set in modern-day Chicago,
co-starring Bruce Valanche as Fezziwig.
Is it Fezziwig a character?
It must be.
Oh, because there's the Marleys or whatever,
Hunt Ebenees or Scrooge.
I just know that from the Muppet Christmas Carol.
He's like, we're Marley and Marley.
Anyway, classic.
I think this is an interesting idea to rank a Christmas movie,
Because to me, Christmas movies don't need to be good and aren't supposed to be good.
Like, it's its own odd form of filmmaking.
Yeah, as long as they have to be cozy.
As long as they're cozy, they're great.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, jingle all the way fucking sucks, I guess.
If you're like analyzing it, like, this story is dumb.
There's none of this is believable.
But like, if you just want to hear him go, I got the Temple Man doll.
And, you know, it's terrible time.
Great, great.
And Sinbad gets to be a postal carrier with a bomb?
Perfect.
Yeah, I mean, like, the one I hate the most is, this is controversial, but, like, it's a wonderful
life to me is like an absolute depression.
Wow.
We just, we just, I watched that for the first time.
We just watched it for the first time for this show.
And that's what, an episode that's coming out in a few days.
Do you hate me now?
It's just like the black and white of it all.
It's like, I need red.
I saw the shitty colorized version.
Oh, I see.
I saw the black one of my first notes as I was watching and go,
bro, this is so fucking dark.
This dude is beating this kid.
Like within the first 10 minutes?
The fuck is this?
Yeah, it's my husband's favorite.
And I'm like, dude, take this off the screen.
Like, I want to kill myself.
Is it because like the torture porn is so intense until that third act where they just like,
and it all worked out beautifully, right?
Doesn't that a great release?
Yeah, exactly.
You thought your neck was going to get broken there for a second?
That cop.
tried to shoot you man yeah like multiple tons uh i yeah i think if it's not delivering coziness
the aesthetics of christmas i think i think that's a problem that's why polar express is bad
the polar express is yeah haven't seen i think polar express is a good one this is my my uh son was
briefly but ravenously obsessed with trains and we watched it a lot during that period
and the eyes are icy.
Like, it just sends a shiver through your soul.
The eyes, like the character's eyes, they're just dead?
Like a doll's eyes.
Like a doll's eyes.
They roll over white when they go to drink their hot cocoa.
Their eyes roll over white like a shark.
No, it's just, it's just off.
It was just they were trying to do something.
The technology wasn't capable of.
A real controversial,
one. Have you guys seen Christmas with the
cranks with Tim Allen? And
so this is
officially ranked on
Rotten Tomatoes as the
worst Christmas movie
with over 20 reviews.
So you're not counting your
Kurt Cameron saving Christmas.
I watched like the first 20 minutes
of it. I couldn't really
get through it.
But it is very popular.
Like it's beating
elf right now in HBO Max in
terms of like Christmas streaming movies, which is weird.
It sucks.
And isn't it like, doesn't it take place in the summertime or there's some summer
involved in the plot?
Because they want to go to the, they want to go to the, they want to go on a cruise.
Oh, well, that's why I hate it already.
It's like they don't want.
Also, Tim Allen sucks.
I don't need to be seeing anything with him in it.
Yeah.
Not even the Santa Claus.
Yeah, even the Santa Claus.
Yeah.
That's another one where I guess he was.
And now, like, I don't need, I don't really like the movies with Santa in it.
No, you're right.
I want to see people, I think it's really just because it's, I just want to see people in the cold during Christmas.
It's really, it's got that.
I'm like, yeah, this is cool.
Yeah, fine.
You're doing it.
I need, like, red balls everywhere and a little bit of snow.
Yeah.
That's it.
Yeah.
Christmas with the cranks being 5% is pretty wild.
I can't, yeah, I can't believe it's that.
They were that out on that movie.
Is it just, yeah.
Fuck Tim Allen.
right at that point
Jamie Lee Curtis ain't gonna do shit with her career
that's like what they write in that one
should be lucky if she ever gets nominated
for an Academy Award after this shit
and Tim Allen I did recently watch
the Santa Claus with Tim Allen and like
he is a third like the part
where you first meet him and he's just
supposed to be like a very divorced guy
he's thoroughly unlikable
like he's just like
what do you want? You want me
to cook for you?
Yeah. You're
observational comedy is like it's hard to be a single divorce to dad and it's just like I don't know man I just realized my father-in-law is in that movie oh really yeah he's yeah he's yeah he's yeah he's yeah I didn't mean to spill it like that no he plays one of Tim Allen's co-workers oh really I mean it's not a claim to fame but I just it just hit my money to some it is to some it could be I remember that's why we watched it so you're
father-in-law is Judge, or Judge Reinhold?
He's, uh,
David Crumholtz.
He's like, uh, co-worker number two.
Oh, okay, okay, okay, I like that.
Oh, yeah, I actually loved his work in that.
It's funny, though, too, when you look at, like,
rotten tomatoes on the site, it's like the critics fucking hate it, right?
It's like a comedy is so broad and barely dents its targets
and a patronizing moral conclusion that goes against everything its protagonist
originally stood for.
The exhausting, like, it's another one, the exhausting parade of white people's
Christmas problems offers only banality, blandness.
whatever. Then you get to audience ones.
We watch this movie every year. It's a Christmas
tradition. Very funny. Always enjoy
Tim Allen. Christmas with the Cranks is a loud
corny holiday comedy and it embraces
its own absurdity. So people
who aren't the critics are like, yeah, I don't know,
sucks shit, but I'm not, I'm not mad
about it. Like, it's just because it's a texture.
It's a Christmas. It's a texture.
Yes. Oh, I love that.
Yeah. There you go. A writer
Jam wanted to put in a word for the
worst Christmas movie being
Santa Claus the movie, which I didn't really, it doesn't really exist in like the way Christmas with the Cranks is like for some people a holiday classic.
This was like a $50 million production in the mid-80s.
Oh my God.
That was like, this is the definitive cinematic story of Chris Cringle.
And apparently it's just complete dog shit.
Well, I want to watch that.
That's cool, like a Schindler's list about Santa's life.
Dude, it says, this is what he wrote, for starters, it's creepy as fuck, opening with Santa's origin story, which involves him and Mrs. Claus nearly freezing to death, along with their reindeer before being rescued by eerie elves who want to fulfill an ancient prophecy.
Oh, I'm watching this tonight, you guys.
And there's like a part where like a poor kid goes to a McDonald's and just like looks in at people eating McDonald's.
And they're like, God, McDonald's is so fucking good.
The end.
just a hobo hamburger scene
yeah
can I have a big Mac
Santa Claus the movie
Easy to remember
Cam
Meet me texting you guys tonight
Being like wait what was it called again
What was that Santa Claus movie you were talking about
Santa Claus the movie
Tim's Googling porn again
Fuck it
The back of the iPhone will do
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