The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 421 (Best of 3/2/26-3/6/26)

Episode Date: March 8, 2026

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 428 (3/2/26-3/6/26)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than No Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the under-explored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid, the story of the sports most consequential driver strike,
Starting point is 00:00:20 and plenty of other mishaps, scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent, dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? Evidence has been made to fit. The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed. What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe?
Starting point is 00:00:54 Oh, my God, I think she might be innocent. Listen to Doubt, the case of Lucy Lettby on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, it's Jill Winterstine, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today, I'm talking with my dear friend, Krista Williams. It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change. Dance with the breakdowns. The embodiment of Pisces intuition with Ketka.
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Starting point is 00:02:09 I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it all I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one-night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you.
Starting point is 00:02:35 This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one a nonstop infotainment laugh stravaganza uh yeah so without further ado
Starting point is 00:03:06 here is the weekly zeitgeist what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are okay so um you guys did you know there's 62 different ways to tie your shoelaces 62 no you fucking for real what no it's for real You're just talking about how I used a mnemonic for teaching my kids how to tie their shoelaisers. You should go to phigin.com. I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing it.
Starting point is 00:03:34 It's this dude's Ian's site. It's F-I-E-G-G-E-N.com. This fool not only has documented all the 62 ways, but he has his own one. So I'm sorry. That's fucking dope. Because I feel like we got the simplest one, which is just crossing the two loops over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, you know, like, there's the straight across one that, like, the punk rock kids do.
Starting point is 00:03:59 So it's about how you lace, too. It's not just the 62 ways to tie. I for sure. I meant lace. Please erase what I said. No, no, no, we will not. And we won't. Okay, please keep it forever.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I was going to call your doctor. Left for its icicle, ride dick bicycle. Right. And then you go around the little loop. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. That is always. So how do you, how do you tie your shoes?
Starting point is 00:04:21 Like, what's the look that you're going on? I do the straight across. punk rock thing. But I like that there's 62 other ones and I feel like I could relase my like sneakers and shit with that. Like really interesting ones. You know what I mean? I like how he's saying his
Starting point is 00:04:36 version. He's like, this Ian's secure shoe lace knot recommended. You're like, yeah, it's your fucking website Ian. But isn't that adorable and so precious? It feels like it's from day one of the internet. No, he's a full ass adult. But I think like isn't it adorable? It's like early internet.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Someone's just like. This feels, yeah, this feels like a fucking geo-cities or like Angel Fire website. Look at him. This man loves shoelaces. Good day. Oh, good day. He's Australian. Miles, do the accent.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I love it, mate. Ian Figgin here, also known as Professor Shoelace. I'm a real human living in Melbourne, Australia. This website has no AI content. It's all built with H.I. Miles, I don't know how that's. I don't know how that's possible. Gates. Looking at this website, knowing what the content is, I don't know how he did it without AI, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:05:30 There's no way there's going on it. I believe it. Tell me that that man is not so precious. Welcome to Ian's Shurlis site made by one human for all humans. For listeners, it is like a word doc. Like you could have designed this in a word doc. You would have to go to it. It's so fucking pure. Like, I don't know. The internet is no longer pure, but this man, come on. Oh, mate, today's photo. Because today's pick from the archives is continuing by Hans Heading. This man knows how a fucking power clash, okay?
Starting point is 00:06:04 Wow, this is a wild style. Check it red and white converse all stars with yellow trim laced with yellow train track lacing. Austria's foreign minister Ursula Plasnick with trendy shoes and lacing. Oh my God. He's like spotting celebs. Yeah. You know, I guess in politics.
Starting point is 00:06:24 That would be such a great. Solex with fucking shoe patterns that are dope. I love him. First of all, calling yourself Professor Shulaces is so funny. Your Professor Shulace. But also to be able to walk down the street and just look at everybody's shoes and be like, yeah, that's me. Yeah, that's my work. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:43 That's my, that's my quality. Always nice to meet a fan. That is not the accent. As everyone knows. Wow. This is crazy. He said that, okay, so he said, during Australia's marriage equality debate, Puma engaged me to create the equality knot,
Starting point is 00:07:00 then sent a film crew to shoot this content piece video. This guy is like, this guy created a fucking knot for fucking marriage equality. Oh, wow. That's the most precious thing. Can we just give him all of the traffic? Yeah. Everybody, just please.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Ian Fagan. Yeah, please don't be a lace, uh, fucking milkshake. or shoelace duck, whatever we're calling it now. Oh, my God, yeah. I literally can't answer that. About Ian, what are you about, mate? What are you about, exactly? I'm 62 years old and I currently live in Melbourne with my partner of 30 plus years,
Starting point is 00:07:33 Inge. All right, mate. I'm really shocked that he is straight. Oh, he was, his parents are Dutch. I was born in Wellington, New Zealand, and he had lived in Australia since the age of one year old. Okay, okay. Okay. I'm somewhat artistic, but more technical skill.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Okay, this, okay. Anyway, shout out to you, Ian. Autistic or artistic because both work. Art. I'm just saying this, yeah. As then you're a divergent that will go. I'm a bit of a shoelace artist. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I can definitely see myself. Also a bit of a shoelace, shoelace autist. Pretty much. What is something you think is underrated? This little first thought, but it's genuinely true. Wired earbuds. I need them to go into style because I am constantly replacing my shitty
Starting point is 00:08:22 Bluetooth earbuds but I don't trust myself to get like really nice ones because I will definitely lose them I hate the process of connecting them and when people are talking like trying to talk on the phone or whatever using Bluetooth headphones it's also
Starting point is 00:08:37 terrible and this beautiful mic that's just right there on the wired earbuds it just works you can make them last a long time so I want more people wearing wired earbuds Yeah, it's, I see it more and more. Like, it's funny in, like, professional soccer in Europe, like, they always show the players getting off the team bus. Most of the guys have wired headphones.
Starting point is 00:08:58 And everyone's like, is that true? Well, yeah, they're like, what the? Like, you guys are fucking millionaires and you have wired headphones. One thing I know is that Kamala Harris was very paranoid as she was right to be as vice president. And I think, I want to say that she used wired for earbuds because she was like, Security, yeah. Right. Bluetooth earbuds could get hacked.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Right. So, yeah, that's the other thing. Yeah. And I think it may be just because it has like a look to it still. Like, it's, when I see it, I'm like, yeah, bro, you weren't headphones. Because I'm still, like, I'm a millennial. You know what I mean? You know you can talk to that person.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Yeah, yeah. And it just, it, I don't like, I, I'm, I like my AirPods or whatever, but I also love, like, when I got, when I got real headphones on, too. It's just, it, it just makes me feel like I'm the coolest kid in 1999. How you storing those bad boys when they're not in your ear? You toss them over the shoulder, kind of in a lay-fing-finger. Three-finger wrap-around? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Oh, see, that's the rub. That's the thing that I have yet to master. Yeah, because I am constantly untangling them. You still, like, kind of stick it down the front of my shirt a little bit just to, like, have them right there when I need them. That was also the look. When you tuck the, you tuck the cord and just have them kind of spilling out over the collar when not news. Oh, coming in through, up and through. Up and through.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Exactly. That's what I have. I have had it where my phones in my pocket, wired earbuds go all the way up and through the shirt. And it's just like that. Hell, yeah. But then if you make too sudden of a move, it all gets disconnected and it's a disaster.
Starting point is 00:10:28 One of the most stressful things that has ever happened to me is when you're like walking with wired headphones and it like gets caught on like a door handle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a full attack on, yeah, I hate that. Well, because it's like, It is like a full body thing of like your phone's in danger, your head's in danger. Your holes.
Starting point is 00:10:49 You're getting caught up. And those it's. Yeah, those earphones are probably fucked a little bit too. Like I've had that happen and then like one of the earphones stops working because it's like it's too much. You know? Yes. They can't take that. That's yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:02 That's actually bad for them. So we need clothes that are designed to like have, I need internal tube system. Yeah. within my clothes to secure my wired. That does feel a little secret service coded. I don't. That's why I've never loved it is because like when it's wired up through my shit, I just feel a little bit too much like an app.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Right. You don't want your friends to think that you're wearing a wire at the club. Yeah. You say you were saying they have clothes where you can like wire it. Yeah. I remember at the peak of like wired headphone era too, like just 10 years ago, there were a ton of clothing that had like little holes for you to like, you know, thread the headphones, like cable through and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:11:45 It was kind of like a normal part. But that was also when narking was at its peak popularity. That's true. Right. It hasn't stopped, Chandler. It hasn't stopped, baby. We're still out here. We're still out here.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Proud narcs. People don't know, but snitches get bitches. That's, okay. How would have you been an amazing movement. Pro snitch. Stitches get bitches. Oh, that's great. That's it.
Starting point is 00:12:14 If we still made T-shirts, that would be awesome. People are just out here saying anything. Snitches get homes. No, they don't. That's not true. Sneaches get beaches. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:12:27 What is something you think is overrated? Fucking protein. Okay. Debt protein, cold foam, protein popcorn, but protein in general is overrated. Yeah. I got, where are we going with this? Tell me about it.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Like, I don't need it anymore. I'm drinking protein infused water right now. I know you are. I'm chewing protein. I'm a little skeptical. I just put in a lip or a protein. Proteins in. Protein infusion.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Yeah. Well, if you're vaping it and you're having fun, that's one thing. But I just think like we're all being, it feels like really tied to like toxic masculinity to me. Protein does. Like it feels like. For your gains. Exactly. For your gain.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Like, I don't know, as someone who is not given a shit about protein my entire life, every time I go to the doctor, they're like, don't change anything. So just learn from me, you guys. Yeah. Eat as many cards. They say don't change anything. They said, you've hit the goddamn genetic lottery. We didn't think this was ever going to happen, but we found her. Don't do a fucking thing. And that's my advice to everyone else.
Starting point is 00:13:34 You can be like me. No, I get everything is. That emphasis of like everything being like protein and. enhanced is feels fucking creepy. Doesn't it? There's like a waffle that my kid likes that they're like, and it's added protein. I'm like, this is for kids, dude. Like, this fully lifting weights.
Starting point is 00:13:53 He just wants like a yummy chocolate waffle. Like, I don't give a shit. And I get, I think because a lot of the time there's like for young parents to, like of young kids, like are they getting everything? Are they getting enough protein if they're only these other things? But it's like every time that, every time I ask that to the pediatrician, they're like, yeah yeah like your your kids eating they're fine like it's fine they don't you they doesn't need
Starting point is 00:14:13 he doesn't have a six pack yet what the fuck is this yeah dude do you know your kids macros or not dude yeah is you lifting yeah I don't know I just feel like we kind of I don't know most people probably get I'm not nutritionist I don't do what you're gonna do but I just feel like yeah like they're forcing it everywhere yeah it's seeing it everywhere and it's acting as a deterrent to me in the same way that I got kind of the way they were trying to shove
Starting point is 00:14:36 CBD and everything five years ago it was like or AI now Yeah, yeah. This thing's got AI. Yeah, I don't need my Band-Aid to have AI in it. Oh, you do, Tess. You do. Let me tell you why.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Tess doesn't. Miles, because perfect. I'm perfect. My Band-Aid is providing a lot of very important intelligence to me. Fair enough. About Angeline's parents' backstory. Why does my Band-Aid have a take on this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Like, I've got to feel like the, the, protein dusting that they're putting on the same foods that people have been eating. Like, like you said, protein popcorn, that shit's not working, right? Like protein.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Wait, there is protein popcorn? Protein. I know there's, like, protein Doritos and shit like that. Like, not actual Doritos,
Starting point is 00:15:26 but like bread, foods that are like protein chips. Protein pretzels. Right. Like, that can't be as good as just, like, eating a thing of,
Starting point is 00:15:38 you know, yogurt or, or something that naturally has protein right like just get the food you're supposed to get from the food it's supposed to be yeah I guess I also don't like when like cookies are supposed to have vegetables in them like I don't think when they try to mix and match
Starting point is 00:15:51 yeah yeah right I don't need my heroin to have vitamin C in it fucking let's just get let's get to the thing that it does you know that actually the reason heroin addicts have bad teeth scurvy yeah it's scurvy actually yeah yeah so with this vitamin
Starting point is 00:16:07 like a heroin addicts scurvy this delicious meal had me watering at the mouth. Falling out the gums tender. Yep, yep, yep, yeah, real good. I mean, but it's also like every, there's so many like, like what they call it the halo effect, right?
Starting point is 00:16:23 Of like just by association being like, well, we're just going to say it has this. Like with all the probiotic sodas too. Yeah. We're like, oh, probiotic soda. I'm like, dude, give me a fucking break. Like I get that it's a, it's better. Like having it is good or whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:39 whatever, but let's not act like me drinking my probiotic fucking orange cream sickle thing with a bunch of sugar in it is like, well, thank God, had those probiotics in it too. The only probiotics I believe in are the ones that like look like someone Hachtalugi in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like that's gross. And again, we're giving really glowing food reviews. Like someone Hockahooge and you drink. Exactly. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:07 But yeah, it's like let gross things be gross things. Like I would rather just house for like supplements and then have a Coke bread. Just be a Coke red. We used to just drink. I remember my dad used to was sold into acidophilus. Like all these acid. It was like it's like a probiotic thing. I think it's in yogurt and shit.
Starting point is 00:17:26 But anyway, like we had this jug that he would be like drink your acidophilus boy. And I'm like. And it was just like it was like the essence of yogurt. It was kind of like it was. Yeah, you could, like, taste that tangy yogurt. So it wasn't, like, terrible. Like, I was like, oh, whatever, it's not painful to drink. But I remember, but it was so specialized back then.
Starting point is 00:17:45 We used to be like, come on. I remember my uncle was selling Tahitianoni at the time, got caught up in that shit. So we're like, take your Tahitiannone. Take your little dumb supplements. That's the scam de jure today. Is that illegal, Tahitianoni? No, no, but it's just like one of those, you know, like multi-level marketing things. Or it's like, if I start selling it, then you start selling you, hey, you got these
Starting point is 00:18:06 Goji berries? You know about goji berries? My parents were briefly in the multi-level marketing thing for something called Melaluka. Did you ever remember that? Melaluka. It sounds like a cancer. Like, it's like guys, the name is sucks.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Melaluka. And I think it was it was eucalyptus-based things like shampoo cleaners. But then I think also like food, I remember like eating something that tasted like eucalyptus.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I was like, oh, man, this sucks. Some guy just, like, had a bunch of eucalyptus, and he's like, we just need to start an MLM. Yeah, we were just like, we were some guys downstream, though we were like, you know, Dayton, Ohio, just trying to offload some Melluluka. Oh, gosh, out of all of us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:53 We're on downstream with somebody in an MLM. We're all downstream. That's the real Kevin Bacon game. Yeah. That's right. That guy was one of my downstreams. All right, Tess, Let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:19:07 We're going to come back. We're going to talk about some news. You two, Miles. We'll be right back. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than no grip. A new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the under-explored pockets of F-1, including the astrology of the current grid.
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Starting point is 00:20:02 scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent gumster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict? A villain. A nurse named Lucy Letby. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story?
Starting point is 00:20:42 The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt the case of Lucy Lettby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived in, to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Lettby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level of the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to Doubt, the case of Lucy Lettby on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, this is Joe Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And I just sat down with a mini driver. The Irish traveler said when I was 16, you're going to have a terrible time with men. Actor, storyteller, and unapologetic, Aquarian. visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom-loving and different perspectives, and I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius are misunderstood. A son and Venus and Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership. He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all. If you're navigating your own transformation or just want to chart-side view into how a leading
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Starting point is 00:23:16 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Neckard, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final rows rejected. The internet turned on him.
Starting point is 00:23:36 If I could press a button and rewind it all I would, But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search warrant.
Starting point is 00:24:00 This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an episode. epic battle of he said she said and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. Listen to Love Trapped on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. What a break we just had. All right. Get your sillies out because it's time to talk about the attacks on Iran, the war that Donald Trump is waging on Iran,
Starting point is 00:24:48 which is pretty clearly a diversionary. war intended to distract from all the domestic scandals, specifically the Epstein files. Wait, how could you say that? If Donald Trump said there are imminent threats being opposed by Iran because there are nuclear facilities that we obliterated last summer magically reappeared. And then Netanyahu was like, well, I'm going to do something. And then Donald Trump's like, well, I will too, but don't let him. He's going to do something. I better do something too. Let me do something. Come on. Yeah. Okay, but okay, sure. He was going to do something, so I had to do something first.
Starting point is 00:25:24 That was so weird when he said that. Like, basically it was like, I, I decided. Like, he didn't like the idea that people were like, oh, you got dragged into this? No. But that's what you just said. He just said that you did it because you were preparing for them to do the thing. Right. There have been a lot of comparisons to the 90s movie Wag the Dog, which I don't think I've
Starting point is 00:25:50 ever seen that. But I know that it's about like them making a, making up a fake war, did not realize what they were distracting from. And the thing they were distracting from is the president had been caught making sexual advances toward an underage girl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's about, loosely about Clinton and Lewinsky back in the day, I think, is like what it was like loosely based on. Right. The film came out a month before the Clinton, Lewinsky. scandal came out. Yeah. They knew.
Starting point is 00:26:22 You think they didn't know? Come on, bro. Or maybe this is just a tale as old as time. I mean, unfortunately, it's crazy. But yeah, so they bring in a Hollywood producer who, played by Dustin Hoffman, who, you know, creates a fake war in Albania using special effects and shit. Yeah. The miscalculation being, of course, the assumption that they would go through the trouble of
Starting point is 00:26:49 faking the war in order to, I guess, save innocent people's lives. And instead what they do and what they had done already by that point, because there was a point in George H.W. Bush's first term, only term, fucking loser, where he, people were like, I think the president's a bit of a dork. Whimp. Yeah. This guy's a wimpy nerd. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I think I could kick his ass was like the media's take. take and then he invaded Panama and it was like everyone was like what the fuck is happened like this doesn't make anything said I was weak right yeah right does this look weak asshole yeah just ran the CIA definitely weak absolutely exactly but still so thin-skinned so CIA of him yeah yeah yeah so anyways uh the reality of the situation is that they will without even giving it a second thought, just murder innocent people in order to get a win in the media, to your point, it really does,
Starting point is 00:27:55 the inches devoted to ice or other things happening in the country have completely shrank, obviously, because this is such a fucking blunder we're in the process of engaging in, that yeah, everything else is going, all the attention's going there. Thomas Massey's still been like,
Starting point is 00:28:15 Brian letting up. He's like, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah, I don't know if the media is able to, unfortunately. It makes me crazy. It seems horny for this war thing. Because it's also like, I mean, you guys are right there with you.
Starting point is 00:28:29 We've been yelling at Epstein for at least a decade at this point. Yeah. And I'm just like, you think I'm going to stop? No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a very specific ending I'm looking for. And until I see it, I'm going to have, I'm afraid this is. going to be a big of interest.
Starting point is 00:28:46 You're going to have some notes about how the story is coming together. But if you think even broader, right, like the Epstein files revealed all these connections between these very powerful people who are at the highest levels of government, highest levels of industry, basically being like, we'll do whatever the fuck we want. Yes. And you can see that, like, you can see that sort of texture all over this war with Iran, too, when you have people like Jared Kushner and Steve Whitkoff as your top diplomat, Steve Whitkoff, Steve, what cost a fucking real estate guy?
Starting point is 00:29:16 He's a diplomat. He is the one doing, is like in charge of the diplomatic mission there? No, because again, these powerful people have just ascended now. He's like, no, now I get to decide what everything's happening. It's like the most sloppy version of the fucking like Illuminati ever. No, it's all the pomp and circumstances like completely gone. And like, you know, there's an argument for whether that mattered at all in the first place. But it's like there's not even like a support the troops.
Starting point is 00:29:44 the great, you know, like, we love our servicemen. It's just like, people are going to die. Sorry, that's it. It's just so crass and low class. And like, I mean, and not that it's a, it's a naked, it's naked what it's always been. It's just like, once again, Trump's stripping away all of the layers, the bullshit as it's always been. And now it's like, the honest monster's face is here. And this is what it looks like.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Right. The honest monster's faces here. The honest monster's faces. That's my vocal warm up before I start recording. Sorry, I had to undercut the very serious thing. No, no, no. He just really liked how that felt saying. The honest monsters faces here.
Starting point is 00:30:23 The Wickhoff thing just made me think of something, because I remember, like, the Democrats did this, too, where they bring in somebody who is a private industry success story in McNamara in the Vietnam War, and that was, like, also the last time, not the last time, but like a time of an immense blunder. And I just wonder if it's like maybe a bad idea to ever have people from the private sector
Starting point is 00:30:51 who are just used to this world of like, let's get hours, you know? Yeah. And like they're entering this world where everyone's like mission driven and, you know, we're supposed to be mission driven. And they're just like,
Starting point is 00:31:06 wow, I'm just going to do whatever the fuck I want. Yeah, well, because they're looking as like, well, what do we want? We want them gone. All right. I'll figure out how to do that. I'll do that. Well, but lots of innocent people will die. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, I'm going to make money for me and people who are going to then give me some of their money. Is that correct? Yeah, look, my dad helped develop Chavez Ravine. Okay, I know how to displace people to build something. All right. It's nothing fucking new to me. It's just like the evil people who win at, like, end up being at the top of capitalism by the end. are the people who are now running the government.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And there's no mission, there's no sense of like mission. Yeah. Iran, Troisoros. It's all the same. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. The, the lack of actual diplomatic staff that's involved, I think, is the one thing I've read from, like, other foreign policy experts are like, this is the craziest thing because, like, no one thought about evacuations. Right. So a ton of people are stranded. And they don't know what the day, like, the, like, the, like, the, what. what they call the quote unquote day after when it's done what does iran look like what's the plan for that have you talked to the other partners i don't think about that yeah have you talked to the other partners in the region who now are like well now i don't know if i should be relying on you because
Starting point is 00:32:24 me housing your fucking military here is opening us up for attack now again none of these things are being considered and i think that's like it's just full blunder and like yeah but again hey because of that in our existential dread, I guess I search traffic is down for Jeffrey. It is working, yeah. And if you look at searches on Google for the Epstein files, they've plummeted since this started. So at least temporarily, it's succeeding.
Starting point is 00:32:53 It's taking up Congress's time and it's taking up the media's time. Let's hope it's not. Like people will get over it, but it does feel like Trump is looking at how the media looks and the media currently, like we were saying, on yesterday's trending, looks like it's the fucking sports page, except it's, like, reporting on, like, bombings and, like, torpedoes. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:16 It's, like, fucking highlight reel of U.S. military and, like, other military assaults. I'm sure eventually we'll see, like, a scorecard. It's like, this is how many ships that we've downed. This is how many bases they've bombed. And so I'm sure he's looking at that and being, like, I like these early return. However, I do feel like people are going to be, you know, as they do with every ill-conceived military war that hasn't been thought through and eventually spreads out of control,
Starting point is 00:33:49 people are going to be like, we don't like this anymore. And then it's going to be yet another thing that is, it's like, yeah, he'll use an Epstein file dump to like distract from that when that gets really bad. It feels like a video I saw or like these kids through like a cinder block into a dryer, like a tumble dryer. And it just fucking starts. Like at first you're like, they're like, oh, shit. Because it's wrecking it.
Starting point is 00:34:13 And then the shit starts blowing apart and they're getting hit with shit. And then they're like, ah! Like, it's like the same sensation where they throw it in. They're like, look at that shit. Go. And then it's, then it's exploding in your fucking face. And then sudden you're like, what the fuck has happened? I can't believe I didn't do that as kidding.
Starting point is 00:34:33 That's wild. I mean, I want to see that video. Show me that video. I once broke my friends, my friend and I, when we were like five, saw Raiders the Lost Ark and then proceeded to run under his closing garage door like 45 times. And I guess it was before it had the thing that IR sensor. Yeah, the IR sensor. And so like we would just like slide under it.
Starting point is 00:35:00 It eventually stopped working. Wait, did you get, did someone get, caught or no. Oh yeah, yeah, we got in big trouble. No, no, I meant, oh, I thought you meant when you like got caught the door. Yeah, I think it hit one of us. It didn't like, you know, decadicate us or anything. Well, it just stopped working, but the thing stopped being able to go up and down.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And they were like, what the fuck are you like doing? I don't know. We're doing Indiana Jones. Anyways. That's amazing. Yeah, I mean, I feel like Trump genuinely thought this was just going to be like in and out type thing like Venezuela as well too. He keeps saying
Starting point is 00:35:35 that too. Yeah. And I'm like, yo no, this was always going to be a bigger thing. But I think this also like again, it's like partially obviously has no impulse control. The other part is I'm sure people telling him whatever he wants to hear to a certain extent. Yeah, yeah. Even though there were generals who repeat like this isn't going to be good. This isn't going to be good. And then I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:35:54 don't worry about that guy. He's a fucking weirdo, dude. Yeah. We'll be fine. We'll be fine. There's a reason like multiple administrations have threatened this for decades, but not actually done it. There's a reason we haven't done it. You may notice that that guy was talking about before George H.W. Bush and then his son and all the bloodthirsty motherfuckers who had that exact same, had the exact same colonial impulses as you, empirical, you know, military bloodthirsty just the same as you. We're all like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:25 fuck, Iraq, we're going to take, and they got right to Iran and they were like, we're going to skip on this one. And he just, he doesn't have it. If Dick Cheney didn't do it, then you shouldn't have, I mean, you should have done it anyway, but it's like,
Starting point is 00:36:39 then it was a bad idea. Yeah, yeah. Well, because I think also you think about like, historically the numbers of armies throughout history that have taken L's trying to fight a land war in Iran or Persia at the time.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Yeah, yeah. Like, because, and they're talking about boots on the ground. They're like, do you, that would be exactly what they want. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:57 In terms of being like, oh, you, you deign to come in to here right now. this place is so treacherous. Like, so many people have talked about supply lines are going to be so hard to fucking keep consistent. There's, again, everyone's like, there's a fucking reason here.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Yeah. Big reason. Again, yeah, if you're just hopped up on your own shit and you think anything is fucking possible and you have people rah-wrying that to the point that it's our own demise. And yeah, I guess. Yeah, another thing they're raw-wrowing about, in addition to being a nice little distraction from the Epstein Files for a big man is at a lower level. It's being pitched by people in the military,
Starting point is 00:37:37 by military commanders. Yes, exactly. As about preventing the literal apocalypse. Or bringing it, really. Right. Because you need an apocalypse that they can, yeah. So we can control this one.
Starting point is 00:37:52 If we do it, if we're doing it now, then we'll be on the other side of it, you know. Yeah. I mean, it's. We just need like a 200. mile long river of blood, I think, is what the Bible says. Yes, starting the right apocalypse so we don't get the wrong one. Yeah, yeah, the one that brings full Jesus back.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Yeah. So there's this group that I wish wasn't necessary, but they're doing good work called the Military Religious Freedom Foundation that is a watchdog group that looks out for religious fanaticism in the military. You'll never guess which kind of religious fanaticism they're finding more and more of these days. They've reportedly received more than 200 complaints from service members across all branches of the armed forces concerning military commanders who have been invoking extremist Christian rhetoric to justify this war. So this war that just started, 200 complaints. Okay, like what, dude?
Starting point is 00:38:45 One top military official told their underlings to warn troops about the biblical end times, and say that the mission was, quote, all part of God's divine plan. And he also, quote, referenced numerous citations out of the book of revelations, referring to Armageddon and the imminent return of Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, baby. Jesus Christ. Jesus being a fan, liking a little bit of the old ultraviolence. I think that was from the New Testament, right? Where he and his broods get in there and get a lip. No, sorry, that was clockwork orange. Oh, yeah, yeah. Drogs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:28 The 12 apostles. Yeah, it's... The crazy part is like the deification of Trump, too, that they're fucking talking about. It's like one guy said Trump has been anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and Mark his return to light the signal fire. This is so crazy. So scary. And so scary. And also just like, it's very.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I mean, the vast majority of our military is like, imagine being 18. There was no way you were ever going to be able to afford college. You have one way to actually potentially have like a life of some kind. And it's like unfortunately needing to sign up for this bullshit all by design. Like imagine being like, yeah, like an 18 year old that's just like, what the fuck? I just wanted to go to college for free because it's the only way to get out of my class. I think what's really terrifying is I don't see a single, like, big mainstream news outlet reporting this story. No.
Starting point is 00:40:29 You know what I mean? Like, it's on like Puff Po. It's like the Guardian, the independent, you know, democracy now. But NBC, CBS, they're like, don't. CBS is waiting to get comment from Donald Trump. Or from Jesus Christ himself. Yeah, yeah. To cross.
Starting point is 00:40:47 He will be returning imminently. So it's just a matter of time, obviously. Like they were talking about their like the metric promised. Like it was a term that one of the, these commanding officers was using. And the guy who runs MRFF, Mikey Weinstein, he was saying,
Starting point is 00:41:03 quote, they are promised, because again, this is what's in the book of Revelation. They were promised a 200 mile long river of blood that is four and a half feet deep. Again, filled with nothing but the blood that their weaponized version of Jesus
Starting point is 00:41:14 will spill at the Battle of Armaged. What was the Sabre Metrics, like biblical prophecy? 200 miles long, four and a half feet deep filled with... So we're going to need to kill about this many children. Let's get a Cali up there. Let's get a cal sheet bet up to see how long it's going to take to get that river of blood.
Starting point is 00:41:30 A lot of money on this war, by the way. I know. I know. The insider trading on this already is, I mean, the things that I cannot say into a microphone being broadcast on the internet. Right. But yeah, I mean, I'm sure... I don't know about you guys.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I'm taking the under for four and a half feet deep for the river of blood. Right. That's what they're going on. I don't know if you got that. I don't know if you got that. So producer Catherine did point out that this is a preventative apocalypse kind of like his Donald Trump's neck scar, neck scarring or neck goiter is being caused by a preventative cream.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. It's like it looks bad, but we needed that to prevent, I guess, his whole head from falling off. Is that essentially? Yeah, something like that. But, like, that rhetoric isn't even, isn't limited to our army either. And, well, first of all, they're doing it out in the open. Mike Huckabee said that Israel should be able to occupy essentially the entire Middle East because it was promised to the land in the Bible. And then Netanyahu has predictably been comparing Iran with an ancient biblical enemy, the Amalekites.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Amalekites. Yeah. Amalekites. Yeah. Comparing Iran with an ancient biblical enemy, the Amalek are known in Jewish tradition as representing pure evil. which is like what they called Gossans and Palestinians and have for the last several years
Starting point is 00:42:55 and this is just an extension of like if you have not been with your whole throat yelling about that for the last several years this is what happens when that remains unchecked. It just keeps coming. It just keeps spreading. It's the same playbook. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:10 And the mainstream media just being like, well, we've got to just respect it and, you know, take a both side stance. If that's what they believe, If that's what they believe, that's going to end up affecting pretty much every person on this fucking planet in some way. It's just going to keep going. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:27 This part of the Bible claims that God commanded the Israelites to murder every man, woman, child, and animal in a pagan nation that attacked them. Those are the Amalek people. So, yeah. The right is saying that Iran is run by religious fanatic lunatics, Spider-Man meme. Spider-Man meme, guys. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I just can't imagine what of,
Starting point is 00:43:52 yeah, fuck it. I can't imagine what a fucking loser. You have to be to be this into the Bible in 2026. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking loser. I mean, you know, there's, you know, there's entire organization, schools dedicated to churning out freaks like this,
Starting point is 00:44:10 because Pete Heck Seth comes from this world. Like, his like, like, there's this one pastor that he's, like, friendly with who is all on this shit, like all on this Christian nationalist thing. Because, again, this all fits into the same idea of what America will be under Christ, which is this, like, theocracy where if you deigned to have an abortion or a gay that you will be fucking banished. This is all part of it. They're like, yeah, dude. Then fucking Jesus comes back. Then the U.S. is like part of like the new fucking kingdom of Christ.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And Pete Higseth said in a speech recently to like a Christian media convention that there is a quote direct through line from the Old and New Testament Christian Gospels to the development of Western civilization and the United States of America. And basically how the U.S. military is now in line with the quote, Western Christian ethic. Yeah. Well, and it's so crazy because it's like they do just they gloss over all of the, because there are good parts of the Bible, right? It's like Jesus with his disciples is actually just like love one another, take care of each other. Yeah. All the hippie-dippy, like good things that are there. They're just like, no, no, no, no, no, war.
Starting point is 00:45:24 War and blood and punishment. Yeah, that stuff has gotten all the ink for way too long. We got to go back to this part. Yeah, where everybody kills each other. Yeah, I mean, Pete Hanks have, like, that tattoo that everyone was like, this seems bad that he has this tattoo. That is the dais vault or God-Wil. wills it tattoo, a motto from the Crusades that has been adopted by white supremacists.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah. So, yeah, all the shit that we've been like, this seems bad, you guys. This seems like the sort of thing that we should be, like, screaming about, like, dragging our feet as we're, like, you know, that, that shit is, is what is, like, bringing us to this point. Yeah. And we're in Democrats? Where are you guys at? Cricket. Cricket.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Cricket. What are you doing? What are we doing here? What are we fucking doing here? Yelling at us for not voting for them is all they're doing. Yeah, right. It's all they can do is just be like, mm-mm. Well, like, even like when Chuck Schumer says stuff, it's like, well, we need to learn more about what this is about.
Starting point is 00:46:27 It's like, you're doing that from the presupposition or the context in which that this is justified. You just need to know a little bit more. Right. So you can get comfy with it. How about this guy is out of fucking control? and it's getting people, hundreds and thousands of people are going to be killed because of this. Like, fuck the imminent threat shit. Just go from a basic framework of, are you fucking allowed to do this?
Starting point is 00:46:55 No. And I know he's been doing a ton of this shit. But like they've completely seated like even like opposing him on those grounds. Like being like, you can't fucking do this. Like what is going on? What the fuck are you trying to do? And if, and if this guy is so far of theater. from what he's supposed to do, then begin to be talking about shit like organizing like general
Starting point is 00:47:16 strikes or other ways that you can, that fucking, if you're not going to fucking do it, and I'm, again, I don't think we can expect, you know, Chuck Schumer to be talking about that. But again, fuck, they're, where's some kind of fucking action, you know what I mean? Yeah. No, something. If you are not, because these are powerful people, right? You know, like they, the senators, they have power. It's like when the Maryland senator went down to El Salvador, like specifically to,
Starting point is 00:47:41 like get homey out. Gilmar, Abregal Garcia. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. It's like they have the power to actually do this stuff. They don't have the will to it, which makes them ultimately complicit in all of this. Yeah. And that's what's really disheartening.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Because every day we're just, we see that this, the current Democratic Party and just the way this party works is just they're they actually cannot deal with the moment at all. Like they're, their circuits are fucking fried. They're so unprepared. because they're bought off by A-PAC, because they also have the same corporate masters who are all making money from this. It's like they are, they've been in the way of actual opposition so much.
Starting point is 00:48:21 And it's, it's imperiating. That was a good laugh. I think that sums us all. Thumbs up where we all are. The military is being led by a guy who last year literally wrote a book called
Starting point is 00:48:37 American Crusade in which he wrote, that Islam is not a religion of peace. Maybe that wasn't last year, but that is, he wrote, he wrote a book called that. Yeah, right before, yeah, right. Yeah, he deep belief in Holy War.
Starting point is 00:48:52 He has a white supremacist tattoo that is from the literal crusades on his chest and the way it's being covered in the mainstream media is discouraging. Yeah. Turkey says NATO shot down Iranian missile heading to Turkish airspace. U.S. torpedoed Iranian warship off Sri Lanka with dozens missing. Iran's secret outreach highlights
Starting point is 00:49:14 Trump's challenge. How about just a big fucking headline that's like the only reason we're in this war is, like we don't have an explanation. We don't have an official explanation that makes sense for why they waged this war. Yeah, because there isn't one because the version is,
Starting point is 00:49:30 it's what you're like, oh, you're doing this because you need, you need to take the attention away from how terrible this governance is while also revealing that we have insatiable, imperialistic urges as a nation in like this late stage of collapse that we're in. And also that
Starting point is 00:49:45 this president is easily like moved by anything Benjamin and Yahoo says. And also Lindsey Graham too. Because apparently Lindsey Graham was also there being like, yeah, man, I got him to do this and that. It's like, it's like how we talked about it. It's like, Donald Trump is like the senile
Starting point is 00:50:03 adult, like who you just need to get permission from and you can convince them fucking anything. It's like, hey, can we order 700 Pizas like you'd your mother say it's funny yeah yeah yeah grandpa okay and then they go off and Are doing this shit because yeah even after the war he was at that Medal of Honor ceremony he kept big in up his ballroom like his it's That's all he actually cares about it's like you can just pick him and push him in any day he's gonna get bored of this in a week Yeah he's immediately gonna be bored of this it's horrific it's man how the hell do you opt out of a Dupesday Christian cult that is your entire name
Starting point is 00:50:40 There's your entire nation. Unsubscribe. I would like to unsubscribe. Seriously. It's like leaving a gym. It's horrible. It's really... Send it unsubscribe to the American group chat.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Do not disturb mode. Yeah. And also... I think America has put it on. Do not disturb. I think a lot of Americans are like, I don't even want to pay attention to the news. But you know, the thing is like you need to
Starting point is 00:51:08 because it can't just be, people who are watching the news feeling uncomfortable seeing what's on the horizon. Yeah. People as much as I totally understand the urge of wanting to disengage, but this shit is going to fucking boomerang right back in your fucking face, even if you're like, but I don't pay attention to the news. Sorry, motherfucker. I read a thing earlier.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Like they said they have weapons that can reach us. That is their red line not to do that. Like, it's their, they, they have said that they're like, we can. absolutely hit the U.S. Oh, Iran? Yeah, Iran said this. Yeah. Iran said that they have weapons that can hit the U.S. Like, it very much could be at any point. It is their personal red line not to fire on us.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Right. What the fuck do you think is coming? It's crazy. I don't know. I mean, because I think that in the most optimistic version, it's that because Trump doesn't have the stamina or wherewithal to kind of continue trying to get people to get on board with this, that he's just going to, just like with the tariffs,
Starting point is 00:52:10 craft some weird thing and he'll be like, and I've got an agreement and everything is okay now. And the new people that we like are there and I will now turn my back on this smoldering hole that I've created in the earth. Yeah, it's like, well, definitely got done in five weeks. We're definitely going to get the whole thing done in five weeks. Yeah, yeah. Just, you know, keep paying your rent and keep going to work.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Clocking in, clocking out, you know. Keep consuming, keep putting money into the monster. I might have to cancel the election. But anyway, you guys just keep clocking in, keep clocking out. You know what I mean? I might do a coup, you know what I mean? And just keep, you know, it doesn't. Now he's got Netanyahu and fucking Hegseth who are pushing to just keep it going indefinitely.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And he, again, this is where his dementia is not very, is hurting us. No. I think it's the only thing that would be like if the markets get bad enough. That seems to be the only only other thing that says, God, is money. Yeah, yeah. That's right. Do your job, Wall Street. Oh, wait, your job has been being completely insulated from reality. Suck us dry, Wall Street.
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Starting point is 00:59:04 and basically kill theatrical movie going. And then Paramount came in, Paramount being David Ellison, billionaire's son, who is in Trump's good graces, came through and was like, I want to buy that one too. And it was like, well, that seems like it should be financially impossible because there are all these things. Like, if the Netflix deal fell apart,
Starting point is 00:59:32 somebody would have to pay Netflix $2.8 billion, and he's just like, yeah, well, I'm going to pay that. That's fine. Like Paramount Skydance is going to pay that to just fucking. Oh, just like that, huh? Yeah, just like that. So this thing that seemed like it was going to kill the film industry might kill the entertainment industry in a whole new way
Starting point is 00:59:54 because Paramount Skydance is basically getting a, fucking monopoly over US media. They would now this is the guy who took over CBS and was like, Barry Weiss, you are now the head of CBS News and watching that, just be running to the ground and now he's going to be taking over
Starting point is 01:00:10 CNN, HBO, all of these things. Same guy, same general ideas. And again, it does feel similar to these people just being like, well, we can do whatever we want. Sarandos, Ted Sarandos, the head of Netflix, like met with Trump and then immediately pulled out of the deal.
Starting point is 01:00:31 So it's basically he was just, Trump was like, yeah, I'm going to make it so they can do whatever they want. So yeah, get the fuck out of here. Right. So they did. Hey, great time. I love the Gilded Age that we're in again. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:45 All this shit going on. At least the art is good and not at all. Just not on TV or anything. Yeah. I'm curious to see. I mean, like, I'm really wondering like what this. does like it's obviously one thing that to own it and control it and sure they're like just as legacy media companies like they'll exist but i'm wondering like what happens to its actual growth
Starting point is 01:01:08 because as more and more people become aware of it like you have people are like what the fuck is going on i think most people won't realize obviously but i feel like there's also still like you see more more write-ups at least like in the media or like in the press about like like what the fuck is all this consolidation actually going to mean for them as even like a business right because i'm wondering like if no one wants to watch anything that's on cbs aside from like the few million that love donald trump unconditionally like isn't they are just watching fox news so like it's right yeah i'm curious like what their projections are like do they build in like what the attrition rate would be for people if they're like i'm not fucking with this anymore if this if it's really just like this And are you, if you're like a savvy media tycoon, or you're like, we need to create like a fucking release valve for people to build like, all right, I'm turning my back on these other ones because they've been bought by an oligarch. How about this one by a less evil oligarch or some shit? I'm just curious like how they're looking at it because they have, I'd imagine people like, dude, this is so bad for their brand. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:18 There are people like rubbing their mitts on some level. I don't know how or what that looks like. Because like my first thing is like, dude, this can't be good in the. long term by like losing eroding trust with viewers. I think they don't talk to a lot of normal people. Like they don't talk to a lot of people who aren't in a C suite at a company or like on the board of a company. I think that is partially it. I think partially they're probably just being like, you can get a lot of value right now via corruption. And like we're the only people who have the Trump administration completely backing us. And so we can just like come in, you know, do a smash and
Starting point is 01:02:54 grab during this administration, get all these properties underneath us, and then maybe build these things back up eventually. But it's like, this is a big, yeah, this is a big opportunity because there's never been this much like open, you know, kleptocracy happening. Yeah. And it feels like the columnation or almost like the macro version of what I feel like has been happening in media for a long time. I think, you know, I've definitely worked at a lot of places that have been bought by some venture capitalist fun where they then fire all the creative and it's like, well, cool. Like, that's what made this a valuable company was the people coming up with the ideas. Like, have fun with your parcel or whatever. So it kind of feels like this is a mindset that they're kind of familiar with. And maybe, even though
Starting point is 01:03:36 it's on such a big scale, I think there's a level of hubris that they're, that they're exhibiting just from pillaging and grabbing other smaller companies for so long. Because, yeah, from their perspective, perspective, it does feel like, well, if I certainly have my hands on the means of creating meaning and news for people, then I can just whole, like whole cloth recreate reality in whatever way I see fit. Yeah. And it's that simple when I'm like, I mean, it is and it isn't, I feel like, it is simple and that like most people are going to, they'll turn on their TVs, not really think of who is behind what you're seeing and why they're saying what they're saying in the way they are. And yeah, I don't know. It's such a fucking grim period, too.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Yeah. It does feel similar to the Trump. Because that is the question that I keep having is like, how do they think they're going to get away with this? Like they have a consumer facing business. How do they think that like people are going to be cool with this in the long run? And it's the same question that, you know, I'm asking about the Trump administration. How do they think they're going to get away with like what they're doing in Iran? And it is that thing. you know, the thesis of hyper-normalization documentary and just this idea that the people in power can get away with anything. They've, like, created this system that's completely insulated. So it doesn't matter, like, it's a money-making machine for them. And it doesn't really, there's no functional way
Starting point is 01:05:08 within the current system to, like, for them to see consequences. Yeah, I mean, I wonder, you know, that's why we need the Daily Zyx. I think we will see like independent media rise more as this happens, at least in my most optimistic. I mean, definitely, right? Well, I think like a lot of the journalists who have left and started their own thing have been like, oh, I've actually been surprised that I've been somewhat able to be successful after leaving like a Washington Post or a New York Times and just like off a substack subscriptions and other kind of things. So. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:43 I mean, I bet you Heather Cox Richardson has at least. least as big of a readership as WAPO at this point. You know, I think there is a big appetite for that kind of media. Like, there are critical people out here, you know, so I think that we're not just going to go away just because this just becomes like America Donald Corpse B.S. incorporated or whatever. So whether they react to that and want to make money off of us or not, I guess is their prerogative. Yeah. And I think that's why like, yeah, we're kind of have to, everyone who's listening, you're going to have to kind of be the annoying person that tells people, like, what the fuck they're looking at. Like when you're watching them.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Like, just so you know, can I just show you like this one family is running like 80% of what you're looking at right now? And it doesn't. And right now the effects aren't there. But I know like I feel like on John Oliver, he was even, he mentioned it, I think last night about this potential Ellison takeover where it's like, guys, like this could change a lot of shit because it's about to go through a filter of like what is acceptable discussion and debate on television. you know, based on our oligarchs wishes. I don't think that people that aren't in media are fully, I think, well, because how could they be? Because they're doing that flood the zone thing.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Like, there's just so much scary stuff going on. So it's like media can be, feel kind of like dry or maybe it's not as important of an issue as some of these are the really pressing things that are happening. But I have like normie friends who weren't, who only recently became aware of the Barry Weiss thing. And to me, that was so obvious,
Starting point is 01:07:12 like what was happening at 60 minutes, just in the content that was coming out from there. But informed people are not totally, I don't think this is like top of mind for a lot of people, unfortunately. Sure, sure. Because I think even if they change, I think what happens is like you may be able to change the sort of messenger for these things. But at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:07:32 like you're still trying to appeal to people's sense of identity and values. And like a lot of, that's a lot harder to change because I even see it with like older family members where like they catch weird shit on CNN. Like, why are they talking like this? Like it's crazy. It sounds awful now. And I'm like, well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:48 It's because so and so, and they're like, oh, right, right, right. So people do sense something is off when they're, like, suddenly hearing, like, a completely, like, antithetical worldview of being, like, normalized on a show. But, again, I think a lot of, like, most people just don't have the time or bandwidth to be like, okay, now I need to really check in on my media literacy. All right. So we got to stop talking about this shit, because we do have an important story to get, too. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. for our pop culture detective, Tess Barker. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. So Jim Carrey just received the Lifetime Achievement Award at the Sazar Awards in Paris, in Polly. And no, I didn't just turn into a different person, even though I did say Paris, like a French person. Some people think that wasn't really Jim Carrey. He gave the speech in French, first of all. I want to hear this, because I heard this, and now I need to hear it. Presque mediocre, no? Jim Carrey made a rear
Starting point is 01:08:55 I just definitely can't be him Yeah That guy was speaking French That guy was speaking French, yep exactly And a very good Jim Carrey voice I know I don't get the people that are like This wasn't his voice like that's literally Jim Carrey's voice
Starting point is 01:09:13 It's a couple things probably You know it's because like we look It's such a like patriarchical society That like if a man's appearance changes It's not like, oh, I had some work done. It's, that's a fucking clone, dude. What the fuck, man? He's like killed Jim Carrey.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Yeah, like, what? Dude, he fucking got work done. Like, what do you say? He looks like that because of plastic surgery. That's what you're looking at. Because every, because even I was a little bit like, well, what was his speech like? And I saw a couple of screen caps of him. I'm like, that's very, that's his expression.
Starting point is 01:09:47 That's his face. Yeah, everything looks like, like him. Yeah. But also I just like maybe it's so American. And he's speaking France? No. What is this speech in black and white? Are there subtitles?
Starting point is 01:09:59 Exactly. Yeah. This just looks like Jim Carrey. And especially I think those of us too. There are some pictures that make it look more different. But like watching him in motion, it's like, oh, that's Jim Carrey. He just had a little work done. He just had a little.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Yeah. And I have lived in Los Angeles long enough. I know like what work? You know, like in reverse engineer. He had a blap. He had like a little bit of a facelift. He had some filler put into his cheeks. I mean, it's like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Yeah, you can reverse engineer it. What's a blep? A blep is where they take out part of your eyelid so that your eyes like more awake. Oh, got it. Yeah. Shout out the bleppies out there. Somebody stop me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Somebody. A lot of people were saying somebody should have stopped him on the internet. But like, yeah, it's a very, his eyes. Like the one thing I did see was like, his eye color seemed different. But again, once you see like the whole. whole clips of it. You're like, yeah, dude, it's just, this guy got, this guy got worked out. He's, he's got contacts. Miles, I've been telling you, contacts are coming back. That's why my eyes colored contacts. That's why this eyes an eight ball, dude. But yeah, I mean, I just, I feel like,
Starting point is 01:11:09 oh, yeah, yeah, just this celebrity fears mortality and appearance and has gone under the canife, it seems. I think also, like cloning rumors are pretty, they kind of populous. They kind of pop back up in pop culture. Like there was one about Averillavine that's still been pretty persistent. Oh yeah. There's a huge section of the internet that thinks Averal Avroleven is a cool. Now that I believe. I mean,
Starting point is 01:11:35 let's throw up our fucking sleeves here, Tess. What? Now go on. First of all, she stopped wearing Converse with the real Avrilavine do that. Is it really like shit like that? Yeah. And then. Maybe she realized she was fucking 40.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I just hear the AI voice on Instagram. explaining this to me. Yeah. She had, she stopped wearing converse. Chuck Taylor, All-Stars. She was known for her alt punk.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Yeah, exactly. No, that's literally what it is. And then, yeah, it'll be like, maybe Avro got a little work done,
Starting point is 01:12:06 or she did her hair a little bit differently, or also, like, all of us just kind of look different and different lighting. But I don't know. We're all like the people in Superman, when like, he puts on glasses and parts his hair on the other side. We're just like,
Starting point is 01:12:18 different guy. That's, can't be the same guy I was looking at a, few seconds ago. Yeah. No fucking way. It's him. It's just, it's wild how it just had a life of its own. It's just so odd too that like this one thing kicked off like a thousand conspiracy theories. Yeah. Well, you know, he was in Truman Show guys. So like what does that tell me? Right. Like that was like he was warning us messages about our fake reality already in the 90s. You know Andy Kaufman was doing stuff like that too.
Starting point is 01:12:52 He was an Andy Kaufman guy. Andy Kaufman fake his own death. He became Andy Kaufman. Hello, the mask, i.e., what you would wear if you're faking being someone. We all wear masks, metaphorically speaking. Yeah. I'll never forgive him for pet detective, though. He made the noble profession of pet detection into a goddamn laughing joke.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Oh, my God. Man. It takes years to become a good pet detective. He is either dumb or dumber. it's never really revealed in the movie, but that is the kind of ideas that these people are trafficking in are dumb ideas.
Starting point is 01:13:30 It's all been laid out there for us, people. It's funny, yeah. It's funny, yeah, good. Jim Carrey just, I think, kind of famously doesn't like the public eye. Like, he's sort of reclusive. I think that's why he's not acting much anymore. And so if there's something kind of funny to me
Starting point is 01:13:47 about, like, the one time he tries to step a toe out into the real world, they're just like, clone. Fucking clone. Yeah, you look so weird. Yeah. Yeah. That's got to be tough.
Starting point is 01:13:59 I mean, it's just, it's funny to think like, yeah, for a thing that's like a lifetime achievement award and his fucking whole family's there, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a fucking stand-in clone guy. Just going down one by one to his family members, yanking on their hair, trying to pull their wig off. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Yeah. Yeah, and I mean, our writer J.M. pointed out, this is a, this is a man who's now in his 60s, whose entire stand-up act was just treating his faces if it were silly putty that he bought at a yard sale. Like he stretched it in so many fucked up directions. Hey, I do that with storebots to silly putty, too. It's not just the one that gets the yard sale. You don't only fuck with the second hand stuff. Oh, it's just from a yard sale? Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Let me stress this shit. Find someone else's newspaper in there? Yeah. That shit might be hanging loose on his skull, where it's not for a little bit of work. So, I don't know. I remember there's one, I think it was like Vanity Fair,
Starting point is 01:14:59 maybe Esquire magazine he did, where he put a bunch of clothing pins on his like loose. Yeah. Like all the way around. And it was just like, everyone was like, holy shit. I remember trying to do that as a kid. It hurt so fucking bad.
Starting point is 01:15:13 I started crying. Yeah. And my mom caught me. And then it was like, it stuck. And it didn't work out well. But the man's got the rubber face. He's got the rubber face. He is, I said that like I realized at one point, I think it was like eighth grade that all my funniest friends were just doing Jim Carrey impressions the whole time.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Like that was it. It was like no sense of humor of our own. It was people being like, let me show you something. It was, bye, John. Who could do it the best? Because that's what I was the same way. like being a funny boy in like 1994 was how good could you do a gym carry in person? That was it.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Yeah. How elastic is your own face? You know, you should you dry your teeth off so you get your lip to stick. You know what I mean? There's a whole method you had to do to get Fire Marshal Bill going. Or you could talk with your butt. You could. Easy.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Easy. Yeah. I'd like to ask you a few questions. Teachers hated it. Easy money. Yes. All right. That's going to do it.
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