The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 422 (Best of 3/9/26-3/13/26)

Episode Date: March 15, 2026

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a hilarious comedian, actor, writer, product of Dayton, Ohio. Mm-hmm. Just talking about the Dayton Mall this very morning. The home of funk music. Uh, you know her from her many, very funny. album specials appearances on Netflix as the standups are special. The Landlord special is available on YouTube. Welcome back to the show.

Beth Stelling! Best Sally! Of love, Beth Staley. Thank you. I should try to harmonize with you. Yeah, I just had, you know, Ohio players. Best, Dayton, Ohio, from Dayton, Ohio. I was talking about the chess camp.

My friend from the place I lived after Dayton was like, Hey, do you remember that Carl Keneye shirt you always wore with a little license plate on the chest? He's like, where'd you get that? And I was like, Chess King, Dayton, Ohio. A friend. Chess King. Wow. Was that like the streetwear store?

Yeah, that was the streetwear store. Oh, cool. Merry go round and then chess king came in. It was a little bit. It was like the Banana Republic to Mary Go Rounds. Sure, sure. Jay crew. Yeah, I never got over.

Why did it just go for me? me. The hot topic. It always felt so dangerous to go in there. I don't know why. Like they were going to be mean to you when you walked in or something? Like I didn't have what it took to wear. Yeah. They're like, oh, we got a fucking tourist in here. Yeah, exactly. Well, it's like built on like fan cultures that are probably not going to be accepting. Like if you try, they're not like, they don't want new people on the band wagon. And if you were new, nobody's excited about it. Poser.

Right, right, right. Yeah. Oh, okay. So you fuck with nightmare before Christmas, too? Oh, okay. I mean, I've seen it a couple times. Oh, you've seen it a couple times. I just want to get a dog collar for myself and get out of here.

Yeah. Please. Sorry, I just need to exchange this dog collar I got for a birthday gift to have the receipt. New pretender. The person who got it for me doesn't really know me. Okay. Yeah, right. Can I trade this in for some candy?

Do you have that? Got Ravens Revenge in the test tube, turned to that. Beth, we're thrilled to have you here. Fresh off the high seas. Yeah, exactly. It's just on the, this is important pod boys cruise, aka workaholics boys. Yeah. It was a perfect trip.

My boyfriend, Adam, knew a check, part of the workaholics fam. So his friends mixed with me and my stand-up friends. It was a great amalgamation of trip and reunion. Yeah. It looked great. Big party on the sea. Yeah, I love a party on the sea. Big party on the sea.

And all I have is this croup cough to show for it. I know. Everybody seemed like they had the best time and is also very happy to be alive and on the other side. Yeah, I saw Catherine Blanford on stories being like, thanks for coming out, Pittsburgh. And meanwhile, I'm shooting anybody that's like, thanks for bearing with me, San Francisco, through my cold. I'm sorry. I'll be better next time. Is it that viral?

down on the stage. Yeah. Have you read about that virus is going around or that's like the treatment is confounding people? It's just like the most lingering sickness happening right now. Yeah, I've heard. So this is my second time being sick this year. Uh-huh. And I also heard similarly what you just said, like this cold thing.

Metanumal virus, right? It won't go away. Human metanumal viruses. Well, now I got to write it down. Yeah. It's HMPV. Okay. It's not HPV.

HMPV. Well, I'm upset and I probably have it. HMPV won't let me be or let me be me. I'm down with HMPV. You know me. You know me. Yeah, so not great. I am on tour.

So it's never good to be sick. I come home for like three days at a time and I'm just like, I'd love to get things done or enjoy my home. How do you recharge when you know you have to, like there is no turning back? Like, do you have some kind of like emergency remedy outside of like, you know, begging for- outside of emergency? Antibiotics or something. Yeah, I think it's one of those things. I was pretty close to seeing if I could get some antibiotics this last weekend because

it was like sick shows, San Francisco punchline. It's so fun. But I'm like, my voice is going, which obviously affects your performance. Like punchlines and things like that. Everybody was very kind after they were like, we didn't even know you're sick. And I'm like, well, what does that mean? Yeah. Sorry, I'm so fucked up for you. Yeah.

I don't know. It's good for us. But I guess the answer is I was just doing day quill during the day and I call it night and I quote tea. Yeah. American health care. And water. Yeah, the American health plan. Exactly.

Exactly. That's right. Daycoil. Just pounding that bottle. Oh, my God. I remember. A little bottle of orange followed by a little bottle of purple. Bottle of orange.

Bottle of green. Perhaps a handful of gel caps and spit. Don't take a handful of NyQuil, guys. No, no, no. Unless you have a tiny hand and it's only two capsules. Tiny. Do you imagine how small your hand would have to be? It'd be babies.

Well, we're thrilled to have you. I do wonder if NyQuil is like behind our shitty healthcare system. Like, their sales would take such a dive if we just had normal health care. Yeah. Well, I mean, when you think about how hard the cold medicine hits from Europe and they don't allow us to have it here, that's really the gag. You know what I mean? Like, they're just like, bro, you can't have that shit they have over there. That shit works too good.

Yeah. Yeah. But it's also colorless. Like, it's behind a thing. It's not like NyQuil and Dayquil are like they are packaged and marketed like candy. They look incredible. You go to like a European drugstore and it's just like, yeah, it's in a blank box. There's a whole not.

Like that liquid lytocaine. Yeah. Yeah. But it will fuck your whole shit up. You will be sitting on the ceiling. Don't get this anywhere near, anywhere but your throat. Everything will go down. Yeah, exactly.

Or rot. Who knows? What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? So my most recent search from last night, I was hanging out with a friend. And she's sort of low-key gotten me into Pokemon cards, not like the whole marketplace. Like, I'm curious. I don't know if you guys know about the weird auctioning. You're just ripping over packs.

Yeah, yeah. So I was looking over with her. a lot of my old cards, the ones that I had since I was like a kid, like teen years, early college years. And I just searched TCG online Ryehorn. I had a really nice Ryehorn that I wanted to see the market value for that, just to see what it was. So I've just been like sort of looking back at all my Pokemon cards recently.

I don't really search for things. I mostly GROC these days. So if you included GROC, I would have a much wider pool. What's your emotional relationship with Gron is going to be our new. It's the latest chat you had with Grock that made you cry. I'm always asking it what fruit and vegetables are healthy. I just, before I eat anything, I'm like, do pairs have fiber?

That's the sort of thing I need to know. And what does Grock say? I don't fucking know. Usually says like Hile Hitler or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Dude, you don't actually need fiber. Fiber. Yeah, exactly.

Don't need it. That's like a lib myth, dude. That's right. Yeah, don't worry about your colon, man. Don't worry about it. Useless. Restigal. Don't even acknowledge your colon, dude, because that's getting into like

Suss territory, to be honest. We're going to have a NERA link that replaces that one day. Don't even worry about it. We're going to replace your colon with AI. I feel like it's something. We're close to people saying that, especially after Alex Karp, do you see that latest thing he was saying about he's like, oh yeah, AI is going to like disenfranchise women and like democratic voters and shit.

It's so wild. What? Alex Carp is the squirmy. Palantir guy, yeah. Yeah, he is the most coaked up dude of all time. It's kind of inspiring. It's so inspiring to me. I kind of love that.

The most evil company is fronted by the most insane looking man. Like, I think it's perfect. There's no other way. Like, it's a perfect movie villain. He looks like he wakes up screaming, God damn it. What the fuck, man. Like, it's just always every morning is so chaotic.

He's barely getting a suit on. He's like, Fuck, dude, I got to go to a fucking CNBC fucking round. Fuck, fuck, fuck. Okay, so here's what's going to happen with Petlake. And then he just switches gears to this fucking bad guy. Yeah, he says, this technology disrupts humanities trained, largely Democratic voters, and makes their economic power less and increases the economic power of vocationally trained working class, often male voters. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't even understand how, what the logic is there. What is, what does he mean? It disrupts the Democrats because AI because it hates women or something? Because I think maybe it's trying to be like white collar voters are all Democrats or something. So therefore this will be the rise of the worker trying to be like pro worker. But I mean, look, this is so crazy because if you like look at anti-AI movements, it's just like random Joe Shmos in like rural towns.

Like so many AI data centers have been shut down in like no name flyover cities. Right. Just because everyone, everyone hates it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I don't know, man. I think this is, again, this is the kind of shit you have to say, probably when a lot of your investments that are coming from the Gulf states might be a little wobbly right now, and you really want to keep reinforcing the perception that AI actually quite effective. You still want to stay in this shit, bro. You still want to stay here.

People like Alex Carp are just salesmen at the end of the day. Yeah, they will say anything. Yeah, exactly. I was thinking recently, because I do want to get back to Pokemon cards and how they are as an investment. Because I'm pretty heavily over leveraged in Pokemon cards. No. My kids were asking me, they were like, we need to save pennies. Because now that pennies aren't a thing, in three years, these pennies are going to be worth hundreds of dollars.

I was like, that's not how that works. Oh, babe. And I was like, that's how I thought about baseball cards when I was a kid, though. I was like, you know, I get this card. Three years, it skyrocketed in value, like the Honest Wagner, and every other kid in the world is thinking the exact same thing. But you're talking about a paper rectangle, and at least they're talking about a metal that could functionally maybe be used for something else.

You know what I mean? Like, I can get the child logic of like, if there's no more penny, then we got all the pennies. And it's like, no, and then I was like, why do you think that? They were like so that we can melt them down into bullets in the water wars, dad. Oh, yeah. You just don't. They're going to make iron blocks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. That's right. But how is the Pokemon card value holding up? So, so generally the market. So I'm mostly just fascinated by the market as like an anthropological thing because it's sort of like, you know, it's a little, it's a little game for kids and babies, which I love them. I love games for children and babies. I love Pokemon. I still do as an adult.

But the weird thing about them is it's like, you know, you buy these cards and people will take these cards. And some of them will be worth like thousands of dollars, get them graded. And it's like it turns people and especially children. Like there is a huge content mill these days, especially because of people like Logan Paul, who I believe will be talking about his brother today, Jake Paul. I think that was Jake Paul later on. But like Logan Paul in particular has really. sort of turned this into a grind set sort of life thing. Yeah.

So a lot of kids will have like basically what amounts to like running small businesses and like getting them on this like grind set life very young. And it's very, very weird that they're like I, this like 12 year old is like, I'm not buying this to play with it. I am buying this because it's an asset. And it's like this is sort of like the grind setification of like everything, you know, like Nike shoes. This happened with like Nike shoes back a couple of years ago.

It happens with like every physical thing. Yeah. There's always a resale market. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This one versus. It's bleak. Such a huge consumer base, too, because it's like, what about all children on the internet? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like sneakers are like, were you a millennial, I'm guessing, who maybe wasn't able to buy the sneakers you wanted as a kid? And now that pendulum swinging fucking so hard the other way. You don't know what to do. You've lost your mind. Me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But with the cards, too, like, because I even see, like, my younger, like, nephew.

just acting like a business person and thinking about that. It's like, oh, yeah, that's actually worth this. That's worth this. I'm like, it used to be cool just to be like, I have this Alan Iverson card. Right. You know, and sure, maybe you look at it. It was just a cool thing to have. It was just something you liked looking at or playing with, which like, sure.

Maybe there's not like a lot of real value there, but there is like that dopamine hit of like having something like that. But now it's, yeah, it's even further where it's like, I will become the next millionaire because Logan Paul will buy this from me or something. that. And I think it just sort of speaks to the economic nihilism that's spreading and it's now gotten to children because they are now thinking of like what assets they have as like lemonade stands are not good enough for them anymore. Yeah. Oh, maybe they want margins are razor thin on a lemonade stand. Yeah. Unless you have a lemon tree and you're on your own sugar cane and water.

Dude, no. They don't have access to. Maybe by getting in the Pokemon card market, they could get assets It's like a sugar cane farm. Right. They're thinking multiple steps at that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I think you're right. It is, like, very bleak that it is, like, children now have to think, like, children realize that upward mobility is just not a thing and you have to, like, children are

being sold the get rich quick sort of like that adults in the past had been sold, yeah. Because, yeah, it's like that thing. It's like, these kids are probably growing up. Like, actually, I think I'm going to have, I'm going to have it worse than my parents did. Everyone, I think just thinks that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I tell them that every day.

Your children? You're raising the bright. You don't respect me? You're going to be worse than me. Yeah. So what do you think about that? Say a prayer to St. Logan Paul before you start ripping open these foil packs, all right? That's right.

What something you think is underrated? Underrated, I'm going to go with portable packets of instant oatmeal. Oh. I just came. I know, it's a hot take. You're really moving off your. Yeah. The Christian singles vibe.

Well, I'll tell you something that's pretty wild. Quaker oatmeal, peaches and cream. Wait, no, no, no. Only plain. Only plain. Peaches and cream. I was a little worried. I was hooked on that shit.

As a kid, okay, well, I was eating Satan's dandruff then. Yeah. But I travel a lot. I was just traveling to Kansas City for a wedding. And flights get delayed. Sometimes you get stressed. You can't get the food that you want. But almost every place that you go,

they will have hot water. They'll have hot water if you're on a plane, hot water in a hotel. So if you just want a little nice thing of instant comfort, some instant feeling good, some instant warmth, got to recommend those portable oatmeal packets. And it's your own cup?

No, I'm not crazy, Jack. Okay. I bring my own bull. Yes, exactly. My own cup. I'm doing my hands. And my own food. Well,

I used to bring my own oats and my own cleaver, but for some reason they frowned upon that at PSA. Yeah. Anyway, it's a simple little travel hack to give yourself some comfort and some nutrients. And it also is something that doesn't smell bad, which I think our fellow passengers appreciate. Yeah, there's some people who bring like dry, you know, dehydrated eggs or, um, I like fish necks. Yeah, fish necks and proxed. Dehydrated fish necks.

Yep, yep. Then the marrow starts to reactivate the marrow. Oh, delicious, delicious. Yeah, you can smell it right now. As Miles can attest. I'm a big oatmeal guy. I eat a big vat of oatmeal every morning. Overnight steel cut?

What's your question? Yeah, we're going steel cut. When I've got time, I'm going steel cut. We've got multiple varietals of oatmeal, depending on how much time I have to get it made, you know, because steel cut, you're putting in like 20 minutes. You're in there, yeah. I actually don't know what makes it steel cut.

Is it that you cut it with steel? You have to forge your own steel? No, the question. Don't know, never looked into it. Got it. oat groats chopped into two to three pieces or something. It just, it has like a nice. But only steel has the power to cut that in the proper way.

Like, get out of here. I got to say some of the finest branding that's been done in the food game is calling those steel cut. It's like so appealing to just to be like, uh, steel cut. Oh, you galvanized. Oh, this must be good. Just because I guess the texture from steel cutting produces a chewier, a coarser. coarser texture. That's absolutely right.

Chewy and coarse. There's sometimes you get a little pop in there. Ugh. You don't like that? Like you're one of your molars? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm just grinding my teeth down to dust. You ever try that? Yeah, just one of my broken teeth back there. It's just, Dave, what's something you think is overrated?

AI, I guess, would be the first thing. Oh, come on now. I know that's like too big of a thing that's like too ubiquitous and too, like, that's low-hanging fruit to say that. But I'm so curious when we're going to, I think if you voted for certain things and then you just have like Ukraine and Gaza and the east wing of the White House and the Epstein files and now Iran,

at what point are you like, it's still going pretty good. It's going okay. Right. And I feel like with AI, they've sold us on this idea that like, it's going to be exponential. And if you ever had a Ti-85 calculator

and you could put in exponentials and watch them graph, It really, it goes way up real fast. And so right now we're just in this, I don't even know if it's linear. It feels like a plateau in what it can do. Like Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise fight and we're all supposed to flip out. Oh, wow, I could do this. They did nothing for me.

I don't give a shit about that. That is not impressive. Yeah, when they're like, dude, this is what if Batman fought Thanos? And you're like, first of all, bro, it wouldn't be a fair one. Why the fuck is Batman even getting a hand on Thanos? But that's not even high idea of sooner. That would have been killed at the pitch stage in a human-controlled writer's room. Yeah.

The one thing is that's really interesting is how precariously tied the AI bubble is to the Persian Gulf right now because of all of the tech investment that's happened from the Gulf states, like where the U.S. like, hey, let's court some AI investment. And with the straight of Hormuz shutting down, if they're like, this actually might not be the. the best move for us financially, given the war you fucking started over here. That could have insane reverberations to the tech sector in the U.S. And just show him, we're all connected. We're all connected. One big village. Yeah.

And just like all the, they talked about all the facilities they want to, like all these, you know, data centers they want to start deploying over there. And it's like, yeah, it's all built on a bunch of flimsy shit. Yeah. There was a, uh, there's a, Somebody, I talked to on yesterday's episode about somebody found a children's book at their doctor's office that was like AI generated. And it was just like shadow faces in the back of like these like 17 fingers on one hand completely nonsensical. Like it just it's, it's the fact that it's breaking into like children's books is really fucked up.

Really upset. I want also think of like that really drove at home for me. Well, I think it's also, too, like, at that age, if you like a book, that shit might as well be the Bible to you. Yeah. You believe everything that book showed you, like, it's depictions of a pet, like a dog or whatever. You're like, oh, yeah, based on this book I read when I was a kid, you're putting AI hallucinations now for, like, kids to sort of begin to build their own idea of, like, media literacy off of. Oh, it's going to be so fucking bad. Like, that's not how you draw a face.

It's like this. It has to look melted. Like, it's looking into the Ark of the Covenant. Right. So much of the, now if you're, you know, you have little kids, you have a spectrum of like, people might have handed you books from the 70s. You have real current books. And the way art changed, the way you can really feel it come off the page of a human hand drew it.

However that was like. Yeah, like, you know, when we moved to where everyone was drawn on like a welcome tablet, that was that was a move where now people go, oh, you can't use AI to animate or something. I feel like, then why? But I can use a bunch of Koreans because it's cheap or I can, you know, I can draw and take away the human element of my pencil go into the paper. So it's all happening on a scale where like on some level

if it's just the next tool, I can get behind that. But if it's the thing that's meant to be all end all, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That I don't, that doesn't check out. And the desperation, I forget which company just came out. They had their own analysis of what their AI, like what white collar jobs, their AI was about

to replace. And like, so many business outlets are like, whoa, this company thinks this is the job is going to take. It's like, yeah, of course, to keep its stock price high. It has to present itself as being so effective. It's an existential threat to our employment? Not a great business hook for me personally, but okay. You do? Yeah, I know. I know. It's just, I think we can trust them. I think we're going to get good data from these guys. I've seen enough. I think they know what they're doing. No, we ran it through our

AI algorithms and it says that it's going to work. I don't know, dude. This Miles Dyson guy has a point. I can hear AI proponents being like, yeah, well, it fooled you on that fucking mountain goat thing. Yeah. So I guess you're not so smart. Okay. So it's going to replace the job of what then? At that point.

Making sick videos. Make you look like an idiot. Dude, dudes who strap A gopros to goats. Just replace their asses with that video. Next question. Let's take a quick break. And we'll be right back to talk about these amazing videos of raccoons jumping on trampolines. Oh, your favorite.

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Listen to Love Trapped on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. I wasn't able to find the video of the person with the kiddie pool in the back of there. Was it AI, Jack? I don't think so. No. Okay, good.

We know sometimes. I do fall for that sometimes. You bring the eye thing. I don't know. I feel like I said it too because it feels like a thing. It just feels like an American thing to fill a kitty pull up with gasoline. Like they got there. They got there at the end. Like the things that made me believe it is like they got there at the end of the person filling it up.

And they were like, look at this motherfucker. Which is like how you would discover it. It's like, you're just like, oh my God, the guy over there just filling it up. And then like you see the person drive off and it just like slosh all out the side of the thing. Anyways. That is the most Kentucky ass bullshit I've ever heard. It's so Kentucky. Yeah, Jack, did you just not see it when you lived in Kentucky?

Yeah, that could be it. Remember that video? I'm like, no, Jack, that might have been when you just were living in Kentucky. It was me trying to figure out how to save some gas. All right. Briefly, in a recurring beat that we have called everyone as fucking 12 years old, we have new news from the FBI, a new color. Labbo between the FBI and UFC.

Dude, just check this out. This is straight from Cash Patel's mouth. Quote, I'm thrilled to announce the historic seminar between the FBI and the UFC at Quantico. This is a tremendous opportunity for our FBI agents to learn and train with some of the greatest athletes on Earth. Helping the world. He is doing a kata as he says this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Helping the world's premier law enforcement.

agency be even better prepared to protect the American people. Dana White has changed the game in the mixed martial arts industry, and we're extremely honored to be partnered with him, the professionals and the UFC. We are grateful for their shared love of our nation so that we can better defend her. This is insane. You know, I don't quite care for this club. What I really want is the FBI and San Rio collab.

Oh, yeah. I want like a Hello Kitty themed FBI age. That's more up my sensibilities. Yeah, you have KKK, K. KK. KK. KK. Kriopi, Batsmaru, the person who's trying to entrap a group of Muslim men and some kind of terror plot. Yeah, yeah, I can see all the same Rio collapse for sure. It writes itself. Yeah, they're working on that one. Yeah. But also announced that the Department of the Interior is partnering with Mensa to turn all the water fountains into soda.

Oh, yeah. The water founts are going to have soda now. Yeah. They're perfect for that one. Perfect. Did you guys invent that when you're a kid? I invented that one. What, water fountains have soda come out of? Yeah, all right.

I'm a bit of an inventor. Shoes that grow with your feet and water fountain that have soda come out. That first one. That first one feels like something like a cash strapped parent would invent out of necessity. That's, there actually, no, there is an invention like that.

My wife and I both invented, like invented that for school science projects. Wow. Yeah. I've seen that in Africa. I remember, there was a child who invented, like, using tires and it would just extend as the foot grew. It's a child. Child invention, like child science fair invention, I feel like, along with Wood of Water Fountainhead.

Would have Water Fountainhead soda come out of it. Honestly, the most, the worst part of being a kid is thinking about getting new shoes, honestly. That's probably the highest priority in your life as, like, a five-year-old or a 10-year-old. or however, yeah. I don't have a kid. I was a kid, but I don't remember what that was like too long ago. Me either.

Too damn long. But aren't they still doing the like UFC or like wrestling at the White House? When is that happening? It's the 4th of July. It's supposed to be for the, oh God. 250, for big 250. However, a lot of the UFC fans are pissed because the card sucks.

Like they, it's like one of the weakest cards for something that was supposed to be like, this is going to honor the nation. People were like, you couldn't fucking get anybody. good for this clown show? I feel like every UFC fighter is like a crazy right wing person. Like why can they get better? There's a ton. I'm sure those guys are fighting. But like the ones people want to see. I mean like Connor McGregor is just too on cocaine to fight anymore. But I'm sure they could be like, hey man, there's like fucking three ounces of coke up for grabs for the winter. You know, we can up it to a quarter pound if you're if you're fucking down to have a heart

attack in the octagon. But breathing so fast. He's like hovering an inch off the ground. He's like hovering an inch off the Yeah, it's just like everything, it's just, everything's just falling apart. And even the UFC, it's like that line is trending down too under Dana White's leadership. So it's just, it's like a bunch of dying brands. You do hate to see it, Miles. Yeah, he doesn't see it. I'll never understand how on the right, they boasted about winning the White House. They boasted about winning in 2024 because everyone was just so dang sick and tired of politics,

infiltrating every part of our lives and entertainment in sports. And then they won. And they were like, what if actually, hold on guys. What if sports, entertainment, everything, everything you enjoy, television movies, everything was our politics instead. Right. And then like, turns out no one really likes that either. Yeah, exactly. But hey, look.

The Daily Wire is making some movies that have Hollywood scared. Oh, laughing. Sorry, has Hollywood laughing. They're really bad. This sucks shit. You're laughing so hard. They're laughing so hard. They have not like the sinners spin off or whatever.

They're like, this is a, the, this is. Daily Wires sinners attempt. This is our response to the sinners movie. Sainters. What fuck is that? Because it ain't sinners, bro. It is just such a great illustration of like, they really were like, and in a free marketplace of ideas,

we're going to win this one. Yeah. And they tried. And it did not go. It's crazy how just like everything, like, right wingers will never have a cultural dominance because everything that they do hinges upon it being a backlash to like a leftist or left liberal or even just neutral like cultural moment like nothing that they would do would exist if it wasn't a reaction to something else that already happened yeah the 80s was as close as they got i think the 80s they really had like everybody on board with regan and like they look at some of those movies it was very like reganite reganite and And, but, like, I think that's, I, heading into this administration,

I was like, are the 80s going to come back? But no, they suck too. They're too bad at making. Yeah, the 1780s. Yeah, that's right. Also the 30s, maybe. Yeah, yeah, we're definitely guilty. We're in the gilded age for sure.

Yeah, yeah. All right. Let's talk about, so I believe if my sources are correct, this was Logan Paul, sweating through, clear through his suit. at a Donald Trump rally. It was Logan, Paul. It was Logan.

I don't know the difference between these guys. No, it's Jake. It's Jake. It's Jake. That's Jake Paul. That's the one who got his shit kicked in. I don't know the difference between them. They're basically the same. They're just like one, which is Jake Paul, is just slightly more evil in a different way than the other one.

Yeah, they're both covering their receding hair lines by overgrowing the back portion of their hair and bringing it all to the front. And then bringing it up forward. Yeah. One has a curlier version. One has just a more stringy one. Logan Paul will forever be the dude who went to the Japanese forest and kicked off the wave of like nuisance people, nuisance Westerners entering Japan to make content.

But yeah, Jake Paul is the boxer who, you know, Anthony Joshua completely rearranged his face in the recent boxing match. All right. Agree to disagree on this one. Okay. I think it's Logan Paul. We will have to fact check this one. This will be going to the editor.

So we're still actually looking into this. No one is sure quite yet. Still not sure. So he tried to do it. Like the ostensible like thesis statement of this rally was for Trump to shit on Thomas Massey. Right? Like it was just all about how Thomas Massey is a loser. We got we got to get rid of this loser.

This guy is bad. he's disloyal to the Republican Party he's disloyal to the people of Kentucky and most importantly he's disloyal to I swear to God I thought he was going to be like to me because of Epstein shit but he said to the United States of America

so like how so fucking transparent that he's just like I don't tell you who I don't like the guy who revealed my pedophilic sex ring sex ring friends and me.

He, at the thing too, because he's endorsing his primary opponent, right? The way Trump even talked about it, it couldn't be more like, honestly, I don't even give a fuck who it is. Like, this is what he said when he was like trying to big up the opponent for Massey. The little rally and Rand votes against us all the time too, but at least he's okay. I wouldn't say the greatest. And now Thomas Massey is attacking a great. great Navy SEAL hero. This is a real hero. Ed Galrine.

Who's running against him in the primary. You know why? Because he's not doing right for our president. He didn't want to run for office. He's a hero. He's a farmer. Hero. He's a tremendous warrior. Farmer hero. But he's a farmer right here. He's like, I said, this is the guy I'm looking. I wanted to, I want to just give me somebody with a warm body to beat Massey. I got somebody with a warm body, but. Okay. So that was, that was the, those are the standards. Are they alive?

Yeah, yeah, get them in there. Get them in there. They have a pulse. Okay. Yeah, they have a pulse, warm body, great. And then that guy who's going to speak couldn't be like less. charismatic Ed Galleride. This is him afterwards trying to get the fucking

people pumped up at the rally. Fake news gets this. Tom Massey stands with the ladies of the view. Tom Massey stands with the ladies of the view. Oh, doubling it up. Mr. President, we stand with you.

Fight, fight, fight. I didn't know you can have a voice crack at that age of like 60. That's crazy. I've never seen that before. Stans, he's in the Z. He doubled up. That's too, that's too on the nose for like a southern.

I think that's why Trump was like, this guy's like from Central casting. He's like one of these real life Kentucky people. I didn't even know. I see him in the movies. Yeah, wow. He's a real hasty. He's a war hero, farmer hero.

I do like that right wingers have their own version of standpoint epistemology. And it's just like if you're a war hero, if you are a military guy, you can't say anything about that guy. He's too good. Unless he's above the rest. You're Donald Trump. Yeah.

In which case, you could be like the guy was a loser. You get shot. That's losing in war. Yeah. Yeah. We don't like losers. Yeah, exactly.

Oh my God. I love this. I love. And there was that one point in that in Trump's part where he's like, he's not, he's not loyal to the president. But he like didn't say the president. He like stopped himself halfway through saying like the president.

Yeah. obvious. Oh my God, dude. So wild. He's just like, I'll tell you, wow, this guy made me mad for reasons we're not going to get into. He also introduced one of the Paul brothers to hear which one to

no applause. Really? No applause. He came out and he just like, he looked like someone had like spun him around and like pushed him through a door two seconds before he got on on camera. Yeah. Yeah.

But you know what? It showed lots of courage. Come here, Jackson. You're up easy your people. There's a couple of weeks. Yeah, what Mr. Trump has taught me is courage. You know, we never back down from a fight, even if... Yeah, or deodorant.

He's also sweating clear through it. The flop sweats are in tense. Oh, my God. It's really the flop sweats. What do you got to do? Let's throw some diapers in there? That's what my grandfather famously, a sweaty man,

a basketball coach who was a sweaty man, would sweat through his suits, occasionally would wear diapers under his arms to just keep from this happening. Yeah, was this an indoor event? Was it warm? Why is he so moist?

Why is he humid? You can see the sweat on his face. It's part of me is like, is it his conscience? I'm like, no, he has no soul. Some like cocaine. It's uppers, probably. Yeah, yeah.

He's flying usually, as far as I can tell. Yeah. I don't know. I love that that's the future of the Republican Party is like someone who scams children online. And like, yeah, fights, I guess. And have you guys watched the Paul Brothers documentary on Amazon? They put like a multi-episode, like, short, like documentary about them. I don't know.

I remember when it's authorized or unauthorized, right? Like it's their, it's their version of events. It's like theirs, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I saw clips. I know a bit about it because every time something pops up like that Pokemon card Logan was selling that was like, you know.

Oh, yeah, the scam that he ran. Yeah, the dubious card. And he's like, everybody owns a part of this card, except you don't, assholes. Thank you for your money. I sold it. And now I have the money. But what is your overall takeaway from the documentary? The docu series?

Just that they truly believe that they are like the greatest people of all time and that there is like nothing. that they can't get away with, right? They have run scam after scam after scam after scam after scam after scam for nearly a decade now. And they just keep failing upwards. I mean, Jake Paul's with Donald Trump being endorsed, I guess. Like that's the thing here. Is he endorsed him for public office?

He's running. Then says, I'm going to make a prediction that you will be in the not too distant future running for political office. Oh, interesting. Don't you live in Puerto Rico? He does. Yeah. I do really like the idea that. They were like planning this for a while and and they planned on having Charlie Kirk up there.

And they're like, who's the next best like weirdo podcaster guy? It's Paul brothers. It's Jake Paul or Logan Paul depending on, obviously that will be edited correctly depending on which one it is determined to be. We still don't know. We still don't know. It looks like Jake stinks like Jake. Could be Logan though. We don't know.

We don't know. But then somebody in the background, you know how like the background of his shot. is always a crowd of people looking at the back of his head, which has to be weird. They always look like kind of a little confused and like very bored. And it makes sense because they're just looking at the back of his head

as he gives a speech. One of them couldn't take it anymore and passed out. And like, you know, it was a two-hour speech. I was apparently fucking sweltering. Or not. Maybe she was on that same shit that the Paul brothers. Or she could be like one of the,

the millions of Americans who's rationing their medication due to affordability issues and maybe had some kind of a who know i mean it could be a number of things you can be a number of things it's all on the table so collapsed during the two-hour speech trump lazily asked if there's a doctor in the house and then said take your time take your time multiple times into the mic take your time you know when when you see the ambulance driving down down a road it's like hey you can pull off if you want And chill out here. You can keep going. Oh, they've got good boiled peanuts over here.

You should try this, actually, if you've never had them. He then, like, spiked to the camera. He did, like, a gym from the office look at the camera while the woman was on the ground awaiting medical attention. He was like, no. And then after four minutes of waiting, he asked the audience if they wanted him to play a song and then asked the organizers backstage to play Ave Maria. Well, backstage, you're listening to me?

How about? Abe Maria. Well, because this is going to be okay. How about putting it in right now, Ave Maria, if they are listening. Ave Maria by

Abe Maria. One of the like 20 songs. I love that. I love this so much. He's like he wanted this guy to die. As the angels, as the angels got him, as the angels got him,

As the angels guide his soul lovingly to the gates. He will mean St. Peter, which I don't even think I'll be there. So good for him. This is a sacrifice I was willing to make. This will happen to many of you going forward. This is just the beginning. Sort of like a saw villain. This is like a saw rally.

He is this is. Right, right, right. He is chigsaw here. None of you're getting out of here until you solved my puzzle. The door is locked after this guy. Hey, do you want to play a game? We're playing a game People love it

Look at them They love it This is great for the ratings Taking my new makeup Just like jigsaw Film accurate Oh no No this was

I saw this I saw this happen Like I just got off the bus I was walking around I like I pulled up my phone As I was getting I genuinely laughed out loud I cannot speak

I genuinely laughed out loud At this shit This fucking killed me I was crying I'm still crying over this I'm crying over this Right now It's maybe one of the funniest

things I've seen this year so far. He's like, play Ave Maria. Guys, wouldn't we love that? We all would love Ave Maria. Wouldn't we love it? We love Ave Maria. It feels like the same like in that Will Ferrell, like worst boss SNL sketch where he's like beating the shit out of Chris Parnell.

Targaryen. Yeah. And everyone's like, oh my God. And then after he beats him, he goes, hey. And just like tries to just switch the mood up by doing a little dancing. That's him being like, let's get a little music in here. How about the somber? song, Ave Maria.

The one about dead people. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about what he had to say about the war during that because we did get some policy stuff, as well as DJ Tanner's visit to a demonic sex party.

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And we're back. We're back. And Arnold Schwarzenegger has been quite. I've been a little quiet for a while. I feel like he's been in no less than three Terminator reboots. And every time they're like, but this one's got Arnold, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Has that happened a bunch of times or am I just imagining that? I feel like they've tried it a couple times. For what, I mean, there's always, there's always talk of other Arnold things happening. This is the, like, apparently he was just at the Arnold Sports Festival, which I did not realize that was a thing. Did you know this?

I actually missed. the Olympics because I was watching the Arnold Sports Festival. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I'm like, what the fuck is the... It's just like annual thing. Arnold's there all the time. And anyway, at this event, he gave this quote that had like all the movie blogs.

You're like, what the fuck? Because he's saying there's about to be potentially three reboots of films he's been in Predator, Commando, and Conan. And people were like, what the fuck? He said they did an additional Predator and the director Dan Tractenberg has been doing a great job of that.

Now he wants me to be in the next predator. We've talked about it. And as a matter of fact, Fox Studios has kind of rediscovered Arnold. What? They've rediscovered. They've come to me and said, we want you to do Predator. We've just got a script for you to do Commando 2. Commando 2.

Then he goes on. He says that there's also a possible Conan sequel, quote, they just hired a fantastic writer-director who did Tom Cruise's last four movies. They just hired him, this is Christopher McCoy, to write and direct King Conan. Okay. Okay. My first thing is like, this also feels like the most 2026 shit of like someone passed it saying like, I still got it and we need to pour more money onto this.

Like, you want to see me back in Predator, right? You want to see me back in Conan or Commando 2 at my age. Yes, this is exactly what you want. I don't know, Arnold. I don't know. I don't know. I think, you know, just you did what you did. You did your thing?

Good. Just, yeah, the very idea that his entire stardom is based on was just like the invulnerability of the human body and like this just pure like just a human body as machine. Like he's he's not wrong that like we're definitely in a fascist moment and there are like a lot of fascist vibes in like the original. Conan and stuff like that. But it doesn't really work, doesn't quite work the same when you're just like kind of a older version of that thing.

Right. To that point, it's just sort of like the idea of how indestructible his body felt when this guy is 78 years old right now. But did you see the final, hopefully it was the final, Indiana Jones, where Harrison Ford's like 80 plus? No, I couldn't bear it. myself to watch it.

Oh, man. They had some ingredients there. Had they not once again used Nazis? Like, he pulled it off as the old guy in a way were like, this could have been a fun, final, like, hang up the hat. We did it, everybody. And I feel like they were taking a chance on that.

What if? Like, what if people want to see this? Because nostalgia, they miss it, all the things that are currently happening. But then there's another side that is like, I think it was called Ben. It was a movie about a chimp or something that was like killing everybody. It came out like a few months ago. I was just...

I think it's called chimp, wasn't it? Primeate. Primate. And I think his name is Ben. Something's wrong with Ben. And I was listening to these two movie reviewers talk about it. And they're like, something interesting happened in the theater. The movie's almost so bad that the crowd is cheering for the chimp to kill everybody.

And it becomes this fun, like everyone's bonding, which I think was a unique thing. If you're that studio or if you're that director, like, I figured. it out. This is why people like to go and be in the theater. It's if you can be there going and everyone collectively like, all right, you still got it, Arnold. You're 78, you got it, buddy. And remembering their childhood and laughing, like,

ah, this was different when I was a kid. Because if you go back and watch a lot of those movies, they're just a different experience. They were playing to the theater where there's almost like a wink, wink to the camera and like the score goes up when the hero comes on stage. And I think maybe there's an element to try to get back

to that. Is that what's going on? But I guess it's like such a misread, right? Because it's like for all the people who aren't 78, we're not going, yeah, you still got it. You keep doing it, Mitch McConnell. Yeah, you keep going Joe Biden. You got this. It's like, get the fuck out of the fucking way. Yeah.

Like stop rehashing bullshit. We're not fucking growing by just allowing this generation of people to fucking never end. Like, holy shit. That's just my feeling. And I'm sorry I got loud there, but just get the fuck out of the way, please. I'm scared, Miles. He came back in Terminator Salvation, Terminator Genesis, Terminator Dark Fate, each time in a, like, for some reason, they've inexplicably, like, made a Terminator that ages.

Yeah. For some reason. And then, like, retired to a cabin in that last one. Like, wasn't he living a simple life, like, alone? You're like, what the fuck? Like, he has needs and interests. And were you saying that, like, people are, like, there's a predator, a killer of killers is an animated one, right? Yeah, apparently that's where there's room for the return of Dutch in that one, because there's like a deleted scene where all of the predators have, like, they've, like, kidnapped, like, or put, like, these people, like, characters from the past films are suspended animation as trophies.

And then apparently they're going to have them do, like, a gladiator fight. And that's why they could be reanimated. And in one of these scenes, you see a tank. One has Harrigan in it. It's a Danny Glover's character and another one has Dutch in it. And they're like, so there you go. And I'm like, but is he, is Dutch old as fuck in this suspended animation tank? Is he 78 years old when he comes out?

Yeah, you got it. That's how it works. Take him out of suspended animation. They start aging like forever young Mel Gibson. Yeah, right? Or you take him out. You're like, oh, fuck, put him back, bro. They start aging rapidly when you take him out of the goo.

Fuck, all right, that went all wrong. So you're going to watch it because you watch the last one. Like you're disappointed they're going to make it, but it seems like you're going to watch it. I didn't see, no, no, this, I've read all about it. This is reporting. I'm woefully behind on Predator films.

I haven't seen a Terminator since Terminator 3 came out. And I was like, oh, they've seen all the Terminators. You've seen them all. I've seen all the Terminators. And I rocked them all. I've seen a million Terminator. And I rocked them all. Oh, parenthetical got drunk and was thrown out of the theater.

When I go back to who owns this and or like, what did they see? Do you talk to anyone starting any kind of tech company startup that's looking to, we want to pair creators with. What they're really saying is we want to make 5% or 10% of every person because everyone feels like they're a fucking creator. Everyone wants attention and wants cameras on them. So then I look at that like, oh, right. They are trying to monetize this need that humans have. to get attention and or share whatever you'd call it, entertainment content, et cetera.

But like I started asking myself, does this species and has it always needed this level of amusement, that we always need to be. And if you stop yourself and go like, I don't need to see predator, whatever, I don't need to see Commando six or something. Predator, killer of killers. Yeah. Yeah. If I just go like, oh, I don't need that amusement, I can, I'd rather just sit in a chair.

I'd rather just look out at trees or something. As I've started doing that, it's made me like way more specific about the sort of, I'm going to take on this book. I'm not going to like scroll mindlessly. I'm going to have something in mind and then like go get that movie and watch it. It's totally different. It's like going back to the 90s or something. But it is, I think, helpful mentally. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Oh, that sounds great, man. That sounds fucking wonderful. Try it out, guys. Jack's got a predator killer of killers playing on his phone off screen. He's watching it right now simultaneously. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, that sounds good, man. Oh, shit.

Yeah, Arnold actually looks pretty good, guys. Holy shit. The fucking tree. I just picture a predator up there, man. Yeah. Think about what a predator can do in that tree. And finally, if Frazier Crane existed, he'd be pissed at Timothy Shalamee this week. The Oscar nominee went viral over the weekend for claiming that.

no one cares about ballet or opera anymore, sort of. Yeah. He's, like, discussing with Matthew McConaughey in costume, like, in disguise. I don't know. Matthew McConaughey looking, like, he's, like, method for a role as, like, a 1930s Irish cabby. Or, yeah, or, like, definitely going method, yeah, some maybe, like a Sinn Féin role. He's, like, you've got to be popping up. I don't know, but he, he's almost a distrable.

him being there. Because they'll just cut away, he's like, like responding to Timothy Shaliman. Like, why should your hair so greasy? Yeah, what was that part? Anyway, we'll get to the clip because this is a part. He's just like inexplicably going, like making sounds while he's talking. It's basically Shalemay is just, he's making the point that,

and far be it from me to defend Kylie Jenner's boyfriend here. but it does just seem like he's making the point. He's his own guy. For me, he's always going to be Kylie Jenner. Kylie's man. It seems like he's making the point, like, I don't want film to go to the place where it's, it's a thing that you have to patronize. You have to, like, get people to vote and be like, hey, come out to the ballet because it's dying.

Yeah. And he's like, drawing a line. between that and film and like the way now. I am really happy that Hoppers made money this weekend. I have no reason to really care other than that it's a movie in theaters. And like, you know, Pixar, which is a subsidiary of Disney, a company that is probably pretty evil in many ways. I'm like rooting for them to have a hit because I'm just like,

I don't want movies to go away. The thing that clip was first just, It was just lopped off or just started off with Shaolin going, I don't want to be like working in ballet or opera or things where people are like, hey, let's keep this thing alive. And people were like, why is he shitting on it? And that's when like the full context clip is him sort of like lamenting like sort of the ebb and flow of the popularity of films. But there's just this part because before he gets to that quote,

there's just this one moment where I don't, I still don't know what the fuck Matthew McCona is groaning about. Yeah. I want to speak for people that are here that are younger than me where people desire or desiring things that are more patient and that pull you in. I just saw another article that says, Gen Z is a bigger movie-going audience than a millennial audience, you know? I feel like a fucking grandpa saying that.

No, but point B. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Like, I guess maybe he was agreeing with the take of, like, feeling ancient. Because he was like, mm-hmm. Or maybe you're saying, hey, like, hey, you can't be acting like you're feeling old because, dude, I'm over here.

I'm 25 years older. Is that even him saying? It's just like, wait. I don't know. I don't know. I feel like a fucking grandpa saying that. No. It sounds like he's saying Craig.

Craig. Craig. Cut that out. Craig. We're talking about from Ice Cube's character and Friday? From Friday? Craig. Craig.

Craig. But then, yeah, this is the part where he gets to the sort of like what he's sort of getting at in terms of like film and ballet and all that. I want to be entertaining quickly. I'm really right in the middle, Matthew, because I, I admire people and I've done it myself to go on a talk show and go, hey, we got to keep movie theaters alive. You know, we got to keep this genre alive.

And another part of me feels like if people want to see it like Barbie, like Oppenheimer, they're going to go see it and go out of their way to be loud and proud about it. And I don't want to be working in ballet or opera or, you know, things where it's like, hey, keep this thing alive, even though like no one cares about this anymore. All respect to the ballet and opera people out there. I just lost 14 cents in viewership. That's probably the part that was more of the. I was like, well, hold on, motherfucker.

You don't got it. You could have been like, yeah, I'm that I'm trying to say. I just lost 14 cents from these broke ass motherfuckers. I just lost less than a court, what a quarter's worth in revenue. That's when you're like, okay, motherfucker. Just shut the fuck up. But yeah, I think, if anything, he's probably taking more shots at his own family with that quote, it sounds like. Yeah, yeah.

His mom is a fan, like a dancer. She worked. Let me see. Yeah, like in the New York. Well, here's a clip of him talking about his family in the New York. City Ballet. This interview you had mentioned, you danced. Exactly.

Or your sister liked to dance. I grew up backstage at the New York City Ballet. My grandmother danced in New York City Ballet. My mother danced in New York City Valley. My sister danced in New York City Valley. I grew up dreaming big backstage at the Coke Theater in New York. That's kind of dystopian. The Coke Theater.

The Coke Ch-O-C-H theater. Dude, my grandmother was a dancer. My mother's a dancer. My sister fucking danced in the New York City Ballet. All of them fucking irrelevant now. You know what I mean? And that's the point I'm making. All respect to Uncle Charlie Coke, you know, who gave them that opportunity.

I had a poet on my podcast, The Space Cave. And I've talked to poets since then and brought this thing up where he was like, you know, there's a new kind of camaraderie in poetry because people think of it as really erudite or snobby, like aristocratic. But in reality, there's no wealthy poets. So everyone's doing it purely because they love it. And I think they could relate to that idea of like, yeah, Poetry, we got left behind a little bit.

Right, yeah. And, yeah, like, that's my way of agreement. Yeah, sorry. Appreciate that. And then you go see it, and you, like, I don't know that poetry is the thing for me, but, like, I did the Edinburgh Fringe festival. And it used to be just the festival, and it was the opera and the ballet coming through. And then comedians, magicians, I'd be like, we're artists too. And they started the Fringe.

And then outside of the Fringe, there's even, like, a really vibrant street performer. you know, buskers hanging out. And that's probably the most interesting part of the whole thing. Like the most punk rock. Oh, you guys have to wait in line and get a venue. Fuck that. I'm just going to do it right here. And then they blow everyone's mind and grab the biggest crowds.

And they get, you know, people tip them and all that. And yet. But the biggest crowds are still waiting to see maybe because it's like a destination thing. The highest ticket prices are to go see like what dance troupe has brought in their performance for that year or the plays. So it's still like they are. sophisticated. It's just, it, it's in that sphere of, like, right now, any of us could go to the Hollywood bowl and that feels like a sophisticated place to be, but I don't think any of us, like, go to the opera. But if we went there, it'd be like, tickets are how much? And they only see, it's, it's just

like a totally different, it's nuts. It's so expensive. But yeah, more than anything, like, don't take shots at other fucking artists. Yeah, we're all in this together. Yeah, like, seriously, like, they're, like, the whole point, artist, anyone who has, has an artistic craft they engage in. They know how life-giving it is. And it's not relevant how popular it is. You do it because you've intersected with a way of expressing yourself that gives you life. So to be like, I don't want to be like these other motherfuckers.

Like, no, if anything, figure out how to keep all these boats up floating, like floating because we're living in an era where they're trying to fucking grind out the idea of human artistry at every single corner. So Timothy, come on, man. You should be taken up for all the artists out there. So making us all simultaneously saying, we, you know, in agreement. In agreement.

I make this little scripted podcast. And I got to imagine it's significantly less popular than poetry even, or like for sure the ballet or the opera. And if I heard him saying that about me, about like the art form that I'm currently doing, like, yeah, I might as well be making scripted podcast. And then found out all, everyone in my family did script. I'd be like, what the fuck, man?

Yeah, he's just kind of, he looks like more and more like an insufferable dickhead. I feel like, I just hated the rap shit. That thing when he was in the SD kid video, I was like, what the fuck are you doing, Timothy Shalamey? You're fucking rapping ass. He's good, man. He's good guys. He's actually my favorite rapper. So that is the one thing.

Dude, you see. Why is this spelled that way? It is just Timothy, right? Yeah, he's French. That's why. Okay. Yeah. Got it.

Don't be so American about it where you're like, why is you spelled like that? Why is you spelled wrong? We're doing with a why around here, boy. That's right. Never seen that. Never seen that before. He might be France, like Jim Carrey. All right.

Dave, do you have any feelings on the Havana syndrome story? The last I remember reading about it was maybe like five years ago when they had to like the, the CIA, the building, they were examining it and saying something, something weird is happening here. There's like a frequency. And it reminded me of when Nikola Tesla had his, before, like, his, like, shop burned out. But prior, he developed this little device. He would set on, like, a girder and tuned to a frequency. And then it would make, like, the whole building start shaking. And so the police had to come. They thought there was an earthquake. Like, what is happening here? And so I remember just thinking now, like, oh, there's some frequency they've tapped into that, like,

makes human brains start to like unravel. Right. But I had not heard of it since them, but the stuff with the rats now, I guess, is pretty interesting. Yeah, it's, so I was kind of firmly on the, I feel like this is psychosomatic CIA thing. And like that ended up being where the CIA landed on it. But now.

Where we get all our takes from. What's that? I said, where we get all of our takes from. That should be when I first was like, oh, no. I was wrong. No, you're right, Jackie. We'd love to have you over to Langley to come check out some stuff. Oh, cool, cool.

Talk about it on your little podcast. But yeah, I mean, there's like some compelling articles about how even if they, the people who suffered the attacks had been physically injured, like the injuries would have healed faster than, like, they were still experiencing symptoms like, you know. Years after. Years later. Whereas, like, if they had been hit by something physically, they would have recovered sooner. So it's probably, you know, everything is a combination of like mental and physical.

But there's this news story from 60 minutes where they're saying completely uncompromised network. We might have also. CBS completely uncompromised. They're saying that undercover U.S. agents obtained a mysterious Russian weapon that causes Havana syndrome like brain injuries in rats and sheep is what they're saying. They purchased the miniaturized microwave device for $15 million and have been testing it out on rats and sheep. Purchased from a complex Russian criminal network. The thing is when this was when this news was first happening, like when you asked scientists how this was possible, they'd be like, it's not.

Yeah. Like you can't do this. So something odd. It's still a little skeptical. Just the description of it was purchased from a complex. Russian criminal network for about $15 million in a Pentagon funded operation by undercover Department of Homeland Security agents. I'm like, okay, so Donald Trump paid $15 million for a Russian microwave. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, I don't know. What's going on here? Well, what really?

There are two 60 Minutes producers who have a Havana syndrome book coming out later this year. But the gap, the gap seems to be widening between people who are like, I don't know. I think there's like maybe some psychosomatic stuff happening here and the people who are like, we're actually, we're going zero dark 30 on this thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's real. We bought it from a guy in Russia for 15 million.

It just sounds so dumb. Like what? Yeah, dude, we like low key got that shit for like a fucking deal, dog. 15 million. But I do like it's the idea that like there's some technological kind of thing that established scientists aren't aware of. Yeah. That they figured out in like the.

Russian underground is pretty intriguing. So I'm paying attention. I just, we're back in, baby. I'm back, baby. Jack, let's try and get our own, do it? 15 mil? We can crowdsource that.

And if it's just like a placebo thing, what a beauty you just show up with a briefcase and it is just some wires and things you put together in an old fax machine. Dial 6, 6-8-1, then hit start. Get in a bunker. Get the fuck out, bro. You got 10 minutes.

Yeah. Just bluff people into brain injuries. Yeah. You're feeling that, huh, bro? You're probably feeling that right now, right, dog? Yeah, bro. Yeah, you're feeling it. Yeah, you would.

Bluff rats into brain injuries. Yeah. Fanning yourself with the money. Yeah. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to miles.

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