The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 427 (Best of 4/13/26-4/17/26)

Episode Date: April 19, 2026

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Starting point is 00:01:08 My next guest, it's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. He goes, just give it a shot. But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.
Starting point is 00:01:23 If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat, in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins. But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax. You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct? I doctored the test ones.
Starting point is 00:01:57 It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Gillespie and Michael Mancini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week. all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Uh, yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay, this one's really fine.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Mickey Mantle's hip injury in 1961. Mickey Mantle hip injury, 1961. I'm just double-checking. because I had the exact same Was this something about having sex? No. My old. That was what you,
Starting point is 00:03:13 yesterday's guest's search history was scream seven and you had the exact same follow-up question. Oh. Oh, that's about sex, right? If you scream seven times, it's sex? Sorry. And this actually connects to RFK a little bit.
Starting point is 00:03:32 So basically he got a shot. in his hip by this like doctor called Max Jacobson called the Dr. Feel Good doctor, who was also JFK's doctor. Yes. I'm actually researching him right now for another, for an upcoming icon episode. Yeah, but go, go, go, go. And I was just interested because he didn't get the like home run world record because this hip injury turned into Sipsis because the doctor hit his bone.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And also he said it was like vitamins, but it was actually amphetamines. Yeah, it was just amphetamines. They were all getting vitamin shots that was just pure speed. And they just like came out of it wildly addicted to speed and amphetamine. And people were dying. I feel like I can run on this broken leg. It's crazy. It's like, well, your leg's still broken, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah. PCP, I guess. Yeah, so I found it really interesting. And because I was also watching this movie about Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris in 1961. Because I love a sports documentary or, I mean, movie. Was it the Billy, the, the, Billy Crystal? Yeah, it's the Billy Crystal one.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yeah, yeah. And I remember being, it was like, it's a Billy Crystal movie, and I was like, this is? Yeah. And I watched the whole thing. Guy loves baseball. That's one thing about Billy Crystal. He's, yeah, New York Sports forever. I love the Bronx Bombers.
Starting point is 00:04:52 That's my impression of Billy Crystal. It's really good. Nailed it. Yeah, it's, so I, uh, an upcoming subject of our icon episode that we're recording this week, her dad was like a famous celebrity who also got the Dr. feel good shots and was just like addicted to speed for the rest of his life. And like when he was getting them, he was like they told me it was vitamins.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Like so I just had this weird experience where I just like thought I was getting this health shot and suddenly felt fucking invincible and the best I've ever felt. And then, you know, he's in his 70s doing lines of cocaine. like because he's just like trying to re but then yeah I mean to your point this one guy who is this one little trick doctors do want you to know about this one guy who was going around like giving people shots of speed and claiming there were vitamin shots like just changes the course of history like all these people become addicted to speed Mickey Mantle doesn't break the record yeah their children have weird issues hey had like a psychotic, like psychotic episode. And like in this documentary I was watching, like, they, they were like, it might be why they built the Berlin Walk because this doctor traveled with JFK and was giving both him
Starting point is 00:06:14 and his wife the shots during all of these like high profile like meetings. And I was just like, that sounds insane. Yeah, there's like, there's like new research that says like that a lack of sleep like gives you essentially like makes you crazy. Makes you like unable to function. but you don't realize it. And so, like, and I think that's probably true of, like, people who are on speed, like 24 hours a day and they're not sleeping.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And they're just, they're functioning more, but they're not functioning at a higher level. So they get bad ideas like, yeah, let's, let's build, build a wall. Build the wall. Hell, yeah. Man, that would be crazy, a president having a psychotic episode. I mean, that's what I said in that was, he was, like, running down the halls. And I was like, gosh, why have I not? heard about this. It sounds crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Yeah. JFK, real wild. Wild story that didn't get told a lot. Everyone was like, ah. That's just Jackie. That's right. Just sprinting through the hallway, doing wind sprint through the hallways. Time me, time me, ready, ready? I'll go there and back. I'll go there and back. I'll go there and back. Watch this, watch this. Go, three, two, one, go. Were you fucking timing?
Starting point is 00:07:25 Fuck, I'll do it again. Yeah, just like that's what I was so funny about this dog. Yeah. He's like he like kept like his daughter was like he was like trying to help. He he kept saying he was just trying to help people and it was all about like helping to cure like multiple sclerosis and all these things. But it was like built on no studies like nothing like he was just creating concoctions. And I was like I wonder if they're supposed to be cold or they supposed to be hot.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Like how did he hit Mickey Mantle's like hip bone? Yeah, that's that's not good. I mean probably because he was. lying on speed. He's like shaking like crazy. He's like, All right, Mickey, let's just roll on your side there. He's like, Doc, you sure?
Starting point is 00:08:05 Yeah, I got this. Also, he gave speed shots to Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley, these secret vitamin injections where he's like, yeah, yeah, it's the vitamins that are doing. Taking Hollywood by storm. And Truman Capote. Yeah, and these are all people who died of drug-related problems.
Starting point is 00:08:27 It's really well. Anyways, maybe we need to do a secret, like, not icon, but like should be. The man behind the icon. Yeah. The red string man. What is something, Michael, that you think is underrated? I would say arsenic and food. And that is pretty highly rated.
Starting point is 00:08:46 We've been talking about how. Maybe they're doing it for a reset. We're pro. Yeah, we are pro on this, but yeah, I'm willing to hear your case. When it comes down to what, thank you for hearing. my motion today on the quarter. I guess when it comes down to it, I'm like, all right, so this report
Starting point is 00:09:04 came out that nerds and nerd clusters, if you eat like one bag, you've had two years worth of arsenic for your body. There is a recommended... There's a standard amount of arsenic? There's like a standard amount that you are able
Starting point is 00:09:20 to handle, I guess, without it being considered, like, damaging. Because I guess there's like, you know, elements are in everything. I want to know how we found that out and who found that out. Thank you. That was not.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Who is doing the work, right? Who's doing the labor here? Big arsenic? I think so. Accountability matters. Is Socrates the one who poisoned himself? I forget. No, that was Hamlet.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Yeah. Hamlet. Yeah. All those guys run together. Oh, no. Hamlet? Someone's dad got poisoned in Shakespeare. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I feel like... Sorry. I'm just picturing a Shakespeare scholar, right? now in their car yelling, just screaming. Drove into a wall. They're going to DM me and let me tell you, I'm not going to read it. You should.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I have no interest in hearing about accountability when it comes to Shakespeare. I'm sick of Shakespeare. Actually, I want to say the thing I'm really sick of is Shakespeare. I'm done. I'm done. Why are you talking like that? I don't know what
Starting point is 00:10:21 you're saying. I don't. And I think everyone at a Shakespeare show, it's collective psychosis. because everyone is acting as if they know what everyone's saying. I know you don't, Becky from Peoria. I know you don't. Janet from Houston. You don't know Iambic pentameter.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I don't. None of us know. So let's wrap it up. We all have internet brain rot. None of us are actually paying attention. We're here because we want to feel like we ate our vegetables, right? Culturally. We're here because we want to say we saw whatever star played Iago.
Starting point is 00:11:01 No, I'm done with Shakespeare, and I'm sick of it. This is the best overrated I've ever heard. Thank you. And I'm not done. Because I'm sure that there are so many prolific writers from the 1600s who were like Shakespeare's contemporaries, we will never know who they are. We don't know who that bitch is because everyone's just redoing another Shakespeare. thing. Oh, let's do the story of Shakespeare's mother, the story
Starting point is 00:11:30 of Shakespeare. Like, I'm sure there's someone else who is doing something fierce and we will never know because we're just getting another Shakespeare revival. So, comment me in the comments. I don't care. Shakespeare's the original Spider-Man in many ways. They just keep rebooting and rebooting
Starting point is 00:11:46 and rebooting. Yeah. I can get an older, but the Spider-Men stay the same age. At least like a Spider-Man pervert. Yeah, at least like guys in spandex. At least Spider-Man movies are spawning a whole world of pornography, right? Like, we have Spider-Man porn.
Starting point is 00:12:03 We don't have Shakespeare porn, and we don't need it. No one wants a frilly collar. I'm sure we have Shakespeare porn. You think someone's getting their back blown out with a frilly collar on right now? Oh, yeah. Possibly. Absolutely. People are getting choked by that little rough, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:20 Yeah, yeah. Like, for sure. Yeah. Oh, no. they're climaxing an iambic pentameter. Oh, no. Shakespeare does give you the experience of kind of knowing a language, like when you're kind of learning a language,
Starting point is 00:12:36 and you're like, oh, I got that phrase. Like, I knew that one. It's like when you're talking to like the guy, like when you're talking to a child or the guy on the street who's like yelling, like that's kind of what iambic pentameter is like. It's like I kind of got that, but I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, give us the Baz Luhrmann, at least. Give us some fireworks and everybody. If Nicole Kidman doesn't die in the end, go fuck yourself. Yeah. That's right. Give me the Nicole Kidman version.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Of everything, honestly. Yeah. We did just speed past the fact that nerd clusters have arsenic in them. And I'm willing to go deep on this. So I think that nerd clusters, so there was this report that nerds and because nerd clusters contain nerds have a level of arsenic that is dangerous if you eat too many. I thought I tasted it in there. Like it does feel it does feel like when I'm as I'm eating them, I'm like there's something in here that shouldn't be in there. Jack's a supertaster for poisons. It's got like nice Monsanto tang, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's like, when people can taste cilantro and they're like, it tastes like soap. Yeah, supertasters. But it's like one bag of nerds is like more than the year amount of arsenic that you should be able to consume. And so for me, I'm like either take the arsenic out and then tell me or don't tell me at all and let me, let me kill myself with nerds. Right. You know, let me push it myself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Push it. That's totally reasonable. Thank you. Let me decide for myself. Yeah. And so I was at the movies this weekend. I saw Hale Mary mother of Project Hemp. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Project Hulmery. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And so it was the Project Hylmerie with Ryan Gossling. So I was getting candy for the movie and I reached for the nerd clusters. And I did it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I didn't because I was like, I think I've had enough arsenic for the year. Yeah. I had like the full amount. Yeah. I guess this is growing up. So, yeah, I had to get a different candy, man. I feel like that's, they need to make a new version of Hamlet where he poisons his uncle at the end with nerd clusters. Their clusters are the best candy.
Starting point is 00:15:16 There's a Shakespeare scholar listening to this livid that we've got. every detail about Hamlet wrong. And I'm complaining we have too much of it. Clearly, we don't. I don't know anything about Hamlet. Okay, look, I know that poison was in an ear, okay? And I think like it's not going to work as well if we put the nerd clusters in there. I think we have to change.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Guys, we have to change orifices for sure. We have to. It's not the first time I've said that on this podcast, says, you know, Jack. People are boofing nerds. And it's not okay. And it's time. It's time. It's not okay.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Not boofing nerds. That's the, they're doing. What is something you think is overrated? I think what's overrated is the phones at the club. Oh my God. At the club. I think we should have phones free at the club. Like that should be a policy.
Starting point is 00:16:12 At least on the dance floor. Tell me about what our clubs like in the year of our board 2026. It's just horrible. There. It's just awful. Everyone's pushing. Miles. It's so bad. No one makes eye contact. It's wild. I mean, I've been to a club in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:16:29 for fucking maybe eight years or something like that. Is it, and I remember back when, back in my day, when we were wearing business casual because the dress codes were so racist, they're like, we better not be wearing sneakers in here. Oh, yeah. It was so different and it was all about just like, but I still see like the culture of overpaying for a bottle of alcohol. still, that's well, truly still alive.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Like, the bottles and section culture is like gone, like become crazy. All that is so overrated to me. It should just be like, you should, you should just be like in the woods. Right. Like, no phones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember why you're here. Ideal.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Yeah. What are you doing? Yeah. Well, I'm here to post content about that I'm here. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're here to dance among people and, you know, share. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:16 We'll get some dance videos for sure, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Just as soon as like a viral hit comes on. I've had to tell people like, don't film me, don't film me. Because I go, I get, I get dancing, I get wild. And I tell people, do not feel like. I see dancing on Instagram. I've seen that.
Starting point is 00:17:32 So I had to tell this. I was in L.A. And I went to like a, like a rave club kind of thing. And so this one woman was just like filming me dancing. And I had to like go up to him like, do not film me. I'm not consenting to that. I am in a space where I thought I wasn't going to be filmed. And then she got upset at me.
Starting point is 00:17:48 and then kept coming up to me throughout the whole night being like, you know, and I just didn't it. And I was like, listen, I just, I'm setting a boundary. It's a simple thing. Just goodbye. Don't try and flip it on me and try and act like how I'm violating it now. You're violating my boundaries by not letting me film you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:05 That's fucked up, actually. It wasn't about it. It was such an L.A. like argument to this whole thing where I was like, girl, no, this is not it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I'm about to throw your phone in the trash. The phone you're talking about. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah. You know, there are more and more comedy shows that are doing, like, phones-free, like, where you, like, have to turn your phone in, put it in a little bag. At first, it was just, like, the real big ones, but now- The problematic ones. So, like, I'm going to talk about, like, sexual assault in a real flippant way. So, can you put your phones away? But, like, why are you just comedy shows? Let's go, like, anywhere.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Like, let's just experiment with it. Let's just do phone-free clubs, phone-free. bowling alleys phone, you know, you go to the, yeah, walk out of your house and there's a guy there who's just like, yeah, you're going to need to beg your phone while you're walking on the sidewalk otherwise. Just like, yeah, we need to like amish eyes
Starting point is 00:19:02 some spaces. Light Amishness needs to creep in. Gus, my underrated on yesterday's episode was the Amish and just feels like they had, they were on to something back before, before we realized it. So. Okay, so we're on the same page.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Yeah, I see, I see. And people would thank you, you know? Like at first, I think they'd be a little uncomfortable. They'd be like, what do I do with my hands? What do I do with my eyes? But then, you know. Yeah, they're doing that, like, phone free thing in, like, public schools here in New York City. And my friend's a teacher, and he was like, yeah, at first the kids were, like, so traumatized
Starting point is 00:19:34 by it. But then by the end of the first week, they were like, honestly, this is better. And I'm like, yeah. I was reading that article, too. And it was just so funny to hear, like, the teachers be like, it's like nature heals itself. The kids started making up games. with an empty cardboard box and things like that. I'm like, yes, exactly, like the ancients used to.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Go on. There's a new appreciation for boredom and, yeah, like the sorts of things. Like in that article, I remember, they were like, they're playing a variety of volleyball, but they don't have nets. Or rules. Yeah, or rules. They're just hitting a ball back and forth, which, by the way, is called Keepy Upy, and we've been doing that for worse.
Starting point is 00:20:15 But they, like, I. There's also this genre of, you know, Instagram videos where people just do like really boring, dumb basic shit. There's one that I was enjoying over the weekend where somebody was like, me dropping different things on my toe with a harmonica in my mouth. Oh, yeah. It's like, I don't know. That's the sort of thing you only come up with when you are, just have nothing to do for. But the irony of that is also, it's like, this is a video I'm going to post. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:48 You know, versus like, what were you doing all day Saturday? I was just dropping shit on my toe with a harmonic of my mouth by yourself. Yeah, I didn't even film it. I'm just saying, Miles, you put those phones in those little baggies. You're going to let a whole generation run wild with the best, most boring shit. It feels like one of those things you do and people wouldn't realize how much they actually enjoy it. Like, first people would be like, no, fuck that. I'm not doing my, no phone at this bar.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And then you're like, oh, shit. Let's go. Actually, I cried and told my friends that I'm not sure if my career path is the one I really want. Your voice started quivering when you thought. No, it wasn't. I was just getting really so intense about it that I started shaking like the Hulk with power. Wasn't crying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:34 But why do we ask people to, why do we trust people to turn off their phones at the movies, you know? You don't do it at a comedy club. Just take those sheds, man. You should just take it. I immediately become mad with power. Everywhere. Your phone is mine now. Anyways, great overrated, great underrated.
Starting point is 00:21:53 We're going to take a quick break. And we'll be right back to talk about the Pope. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girl. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends,
Starting point is 00:22:26 Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, everyone? I'm Ago Vodam. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Woo! My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the good. groundlings. I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't
Starting point is 00:23:46 feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal.
Starting point is 00:24:18 The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so-ins, correct? I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg, a lesbian, Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, news, Laura Owens finally faces consequences.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A silver 40 caliber handgun was recovered at the scene. From IHeart Podcasts and Best Case Studios. is Rorschach, murder at City Hall.
Starting point is 00:25:34 How could this have happened in City Hall? Somebody tell me that. July 2003, Councilman James E. Davis arrives at New York City Hall with a guest. Both men are carrying concealed weapons. And in less than 30 minutes,
Starting point is 00:25:50 both of them will be dead. Everybody in the chambers docked. A shocking public murder. A scream, get down, get down. Those are shots. Those are shots. Get down. A charismatic politician. You know, he just bent the rules all the time. I still have a weapon, and I could shoot you.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And an outsider was a secret. He alleged he was a victim of blackmail. That may or may not have been political. That may have been about sex. Listen to Rorschach, murder at City Hall, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. It's nice to always check with Dr. Oz. Oh, I love Jacob's reaction to the pretty good. Pretty good ad reads.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Sometimes people are like, we're going to take a quick break and they check in or like talk, you know, I love just like, we're taking a quick break and we're back. We're back in the same breath. I love it. We don't do that. We disappear for a good two to three minutes. Great. All right. Dr. Oz has recently let the world know that Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:27:12 he's he's our greatest purveyor of medical theories yeah yeah yeah you know well the medical sciences will be puzzling over for for millennia they continue to they continue to given his even the state of his health and he manages to still be president uh but yeah i mean like the medical theories continue the last one if you remember was i take a fuck ton of aspirin so my blood stays thinner as thin as by like my blood real thin so he takes out so much so much Aspirin that like heart doctors are like, yo, do not know. If you get a bloody nose, you will die, sir. It's so thin.
Starting point is 00:27:49 It's thinner than Miles's mustache hair. But he insists on drinking diet Coke all the time and soda. And we just found out because Dr. Oz went on Don Jr.'s triggered podcast to talk about this new fantastic medical theory that Donald Trump has about what. why Diet Coke and soda actually very good and will cure cancer. He'll first start off with, you know, candy bars, that little candy jar he'll call it. He'll hit the red button. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:22 And then comes to the diet soda pops, which is your dad argues that diet soda is good for him because it kills grass. It's poured on grass. So therefore, it must kill cancer cells inside the body. So he'll try to, please. I'm not even going to argue this right now. Yeah, yeah. You know, I'm not even going to argue this right now. Like, I think they're both like, he's like, what a dumb ass.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Even Don Jr. is like, that's my fucking dad. He sounds like Elmer Fudd on cocaine. What is going on with Dr. Oz? You're hanging out with Don Jr. You know, maybe little trays coming out. The way you set up the clip, it sounded like they were going to be like, you know, saying it was good. But even they think it's a joke. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:03 They're laughing. But they're, because I mean, I think on some level, they're like, come on, dude, because it kills grass. You're not going to have cancer. What the fuck is that? But I think it's fun. funny, though, too, because they're not, they're just trying to, like, they can't immediately go, what a dumb fucking person. Because they're part of the machinery. So they're just like, yeah, he's got some, he got some ideas.
Starting point is 00:29:21 He goes on because he also is a lover of Fanta, too. We were on Air Force One the other day, and I walk in there because he wants to talk about something. And he's got an orange soft drink on his desk. Fanta. He takes Fanta. Yeah. That's what I didn't say the brand name on the podcast. He's got Fanta on the desk.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And I say, are you kidding me? So he starts to like sheepishy grin. He goes, you know, this stuff's good for me. He kills catch yourselves. and then he tells me it's fresh squeezed. So how bad could it be for you? I mean, come on, guys. The fuck.
Starting point is 00:29:49 That's just crazy. That's like wacky old person talking like, like, why are you drinking that orange soda? It kills cancer cells. Oh, fuck. This would be, yeah, this would be worrying if you were, like this would be the conversation you're having when you're like, should we take away his keys, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:07 Like he said that the phanta was fresh squeezed. and he's like looking, he looked seriously like sheepish. I was like, it's fresh squeezed. How bad can it be? Well, first of all, asshole, it's not fresh squeezed. It's, I don't know where you got that. But that's like, that's like the logic I had when I was like 10. When I'm like, well, this is orange soda.
Starting point is 00:30:29 It's based on a fruit. Do you guys find that having kids helps you understand him, though? I've found that. Like the logic of like a kid having a tantrum or like someone who doesn't think something's fair that is just the way it is or like the kind of tantrums my kids throw. I'm like, it helps me understand a lot of people like children are like naturally by nature like narcissists. They go through a phase where they are unwilling to like grapple with the fact that there is a world besides them or that they, you know, aren't the most important
Starting point is 00:31:02 thing in the world. Yeah. And some people just never leave that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like I just like the two, and I don't like it, but if, okay, so it kills grass, then it kills tumors, I guess. Right, yes. But wouldn't that logic also suggest it would just generally otherwise destroy healthy organic material, just any material? Just cancer. So grass is tumors. So grass is tumors? Yeah, I like it.
Starting point is 00:31:33 It's sort of the, yeah, yeah, like, chemo. He's like, well, what if it's like he? What if it's the thing that's going to kill the bad thing? Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So then how come that's not, how can people aren't touting this as an actual treatment for cancer then? I am telling it. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:31:51 This is the same dude who six years more mentally fit ago was telling people to drink bleach. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's just like the fact that we're even debating. Like, it, this would be so funny if it wasn't such a fucking bummer. It's, he wasn't threat. like just pushing and pushing and like getting more dangerous and more willing to like talk about using nuclear weapons. Like that seems like the wrong guy to be having this fun conversation about.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah, yeah. This person has no concept of how like even the most basic scientific concepts. So yeah, I'm sure he has he knows a lot about nuclear fallout that he can tell us. Yeah. That's actually good for you. It's actually good. All right. So from that, let's get into.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Because as crazy as Trump seems in this moment, it's important to remember that if you look at everything that's happened in the past 10 years, as the people in power doing whatever is best for the banks and corporations, like everything kind of makes perfect sense. So there's this headline in the Financial Times that Wall Street Banks break records as the Iran War drives trading boom. JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Wells Fargo,
Starting point is 00:33:03 reported more than $25 billion of profit. for the first quarter. If you actually add, if it's, if you take the top six, it's actually closer to 50 billion. Yeah. Which is wild. Like that, this report is leaving out like, if you add up Bank of America, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, City and Wells Fargo, collectively, they were at $47.5 billion in profit. It's just everything that is bad for human beings. We, we have an operating system that it's, it's not just like, for a while, it's, for a while,
Starting point is 00:33:37 is like humans are in the way. Like human people can get in the way of like corporate profit. And more and more, it's like everything that is bad for humans is good for them, essentially. Like I saw an article about the Disney layoffs. Disney's laying off 1,000 employees and they listed as one of the primary reasons. Disney is also trying to bolster its stock price that has been stuck despite a broader market rally in recent years. So it's like this is a thing you can do to get your your stock price going in the right direction. It's just firing a thousand people.
Starting point is 00:34:15 A thing you can do to have record profits as a bank is to start a war with Iran. Or just say nothing, you know, because like all these, all these bank CEOs is like, I don't know. I mean, yeah. Well, because they want to ride it out. Like they want to write it. Like they're trying to find that line where it's like they can they can make enough trades and make, you know, make enough money without getting everyone killed. Like they don't care if they get a certain amount of people killed,
Starting point is 00:34:41 especially if it's people who are in another country or they don't care about, blah, blah, blah. Right. But like, yeah, it's fucking insane. Yeah, because I mean, the whole thing is, right, they're making money off of how investors are in fear right now of like energy prices. Right. And they're profiting off of like all these people just like moving money around like, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And then you look because a lot of those banks just did some stock buy. stock buybacks too. So make sure they're putting money back into the investor's pockets. And they're like, hey, man, this is good for everybody, right? This is good for everybody. I got into a big argument. One of the episodes that we did for our podcast is that I don't know or I didn't know anything about the economy. I feel like now I have like a little bit of a handle on it. Line goes up equals good, right? That's all I know. That's all I knew. So I found a Jacob Reed who teaches AP economics. And so I was doing like private tutoring with him to learn about the economy. And so one of the things, like I came into it very much.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Like, isn't this all just a fucking rigged bullshit? Because these companies are making so much money off of things that are obviously bad for people. And his metaphor was like, you know, you cut down a tree and all we equate it with is like lumber, but not, you know, that it makes clean CO2 and it provides a habitat for animals and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he told me that one of the most interesting things to him in the world of economics over the last. handful of years, is that there's a group of economists who are capitalists who are so concerned about the way things are going right now, hurting capitalism forever, that they're trying to rein it in and come up with new economic theories to make us be able to count all of the things that we wouldn't quantify otherwise, like kids being alive or habitats for animals
Starting point is 00:36:29 or oxygen or whatever, so that capitalism can work with those things because they see the world, even these people who are so pro-capitalism and who have PhDs in, right. Economics. Economics. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Economism.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the episode is very much like, I'm stupid and this guy's smart and he's going to teach me as much as he can and I'm still not that smart about it. But yeah, they're so worried about what's happening that like they actually are fearful about capitalism ending. It's interesting to see how different capitalists are responding to this. Some people, they're like, they're conscious and they're like, man, we got to figure this out because they're figuring it out that it's all on this economic system.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Then there's like the million, the ethical millionaires. I forget what that group is. There's like a group of millionaires who are like, dude, we got like money has to start flowing the other direction. Like now or else like this is all bad. And then the other people are like, we need a fucking bunker, man. Right. to fucking get away from everyone and no one can quite get on the same page. But they at least are identifying that this is a source of terrible pain and chaos.
Starting point is 00:37:42 It's just that it's just not close enough to them. It really. Yeah, like something massive is going to have to change because, yeah, I mean, there's been a massive movement. There's been like these carbon economies where like the value of like putting carbon, like taking carbon out of the atmosphere is like given a monetary value. And it's just not changing quickly enough. And they're still finding a way to, you know, like it, what, like they won't openly say, yeah, we're for the war in Iran, but like volatility and chaos.
Starting point is 00:38:17 And, you know, I started like the biggest revelation for me that we, this current system was doomed was when COVID happened. And like the companies were just like stage propelled at the time. of the market. They're just like, yeah, we're actually good through this as like everybody was getting hurt. It's just like they've completely isolated themselves from anything that is bad for people. And now they can just make things worse and worse and worse for people and keep making more and more and more money. Which brings me back to California being liberal as of being an overrated thought because so many of those companies are either headquartered in or have enormous financial stake in California, which is depending on your metrics, the fourth or fifth
Starting point is 00:39:01 largest economy in the world, if our governor in this state were not like, you know, just taking corporate money and trying to be president, we could regulate things that would have a global, a national, if not a global impact. Just by virtue of California saying that that's how it should be because that's what's better for people. Yeah. Let's take a trip up the coastline, actually, to our good friends in San Francisco where they, like the other, I think this is why AI is so good is it just like allows them to further and like just isolate everything and make like monetary value completely divorced from what is happening to people like in a way that everybody seems to love all birds the shoe company just announced that they're pivoting from shoes to
Starting point is 00:39:50 AI and their stock their stock has sort it doesn't like I read the article to be like okay so this must make sense in some way. Like they must have like some data set that they have from like their customers or like there, there must be something that makes this make sense. And it does not. Like there's nothing that it's just they sold their shoe business essentially. And now they are a entity with a bunch of money
Starting point is 00:40:19 who's like, we're going to invest in AI and like start making some chips that people want. And it's increased. It's like a fucking satire. like the stock market is a satire of like everything that's wrong. Well, it's, yeah, because everything's about the processing power of AI now. So other businesses are like, well, shit, yeah, we can do that. There was like an airline that also was like, yeah, you want to use our turbines? Like a company that built like the crazy, like a fast airliner was like selling its gas turbines to AI companies who needed energy for their date.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Like everyone's like, oh, maybe we can like lop some of this off. For this one, though, it's wild, too, because all birds on April 7th said, they had a press conference, like, we've got a new canvas cruiser collection and a partnership with Pantone. And then April 15th, they're like, yeah, man, we're pivoting to AI compute infrastructure. Everybody get fucked. Yeah. So, like, this divide between the people who are in charge and getting richer off of all of this chaos and pain is very stark in the world of AI. So meta is reportedly hard at work creating an. AI clone of Mark Zuckerberg that is currently being trained on his mannerisms and tone.
Starting point is 00:41:35 That must be melting the fuck down. Are they using like sliders or like, okay, put Riz down to negative three? Manorisms, awkward as fuck. Okay, great. There we go. This is like weeks, a couple weeks after the news that they're shutting down the metaverse and that the however many tens of billions of dollars that were put into, that we're all for nothing.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got to move on to the next thing because that's Wall Street is just like, okay, how do we find a thing that we can claim is a massive growth opportunity?
Starting point is 00:42:09 People are expensive and anytime you're tied to like treating people well and like having employees who do good work, you're actually anchored down. And that's a bad thing. How do we 100x people get them the fuck out of here? Right. So the idea here is that AI Zuck can attend me. meetings in his place and field questions from employees who will obviously feel more connected to a digital simulation of their haunted mannequin of a boss.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And it's... I love that. I hope that someone, like, that makes me want to get a job at Facebook or meta just so that I can have a meeting with AI Zuck, just so that I can film that meeting and release it to everyone and ask him, like, Hey, so do you, like, you know, how come you're, like, funding things that help fascism exist? How come your plan for humanity is to- It's probably got, like, hot words that it filters out.
Starting point is 00:43:07 They're like, uh, Gaza, fascism, all these other things. Oh, sorry, I don't know what you're talking about. I got to go, actually. I have a meeting. I'm AIs up. It just gets a nosebleed today. Mark Zuckerberg just gets a nosebleed. The second you ask one of those.
Starting point is 00:43:21 You know what I noticed, actually, this story is making me realize is that early, like, if you ever listen to those tech founder podcasts, they all are always like, that's a great question, Jacob, and I'm so glad you asked it. And they just, like, compliment each other and are like so pled because they've just, like, have this, like, human training
Starting point is 00:43:45 that tells them that that's what you do. And then, like, that's actually the first place I saw the personality that is now the AI personality where, like, you ask it a question. It's, like, amazing question. Yeah. Which month is spelled with an X? That would be December. Great question. Anytime you need me to answer anything else. I'm right here. Yeah, they've just transported their shitty CEO personalities into these AIs. Well, because they're all reading, like, they read similar, like, psychological psychology books or like the 48 laws of power and shit to. Like, oh, mirroring. And like they're all, like, they've really tried to, like, quote unquote, optimize human interaction by this sort of like, you know, personality by numbers thing. And yeah, that, and then like, it kind of works because like how many people are like out
Starting point is 00:44:34 here being like, everything it's saying to me is true. Right. Do you guys think that some of it is like, uh, him believing that he could have a consciousness and like that like, do you think, because you know how like billionaires are obsessed with like immortality and living forever? Like, do you think that he believes that eventually if, if this is successful, if the people in his inner circle who are yesing everything he says are correct? then he could just switch to being this omnipresent, you know, a hive mind of himself.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Who knows? I mean, he's, it's hard to. The fact that we can't just rule that out and be like, well, no, of course, that's fucking idiotic. Well, because all these people have some weird, like, all these tech billionaires have at least one to eight screws loose fully. Right. You know what I mean? And like with Peter Thiel and his like antichrist obsession, you know, Mark Zuckerberg
Starting point is 00:45:25 thought like was doing his hair after Roman. emperors and shit. Like, I'm sure he has some weird kid fantasy, too, where he's like, and my brain will be a computer that will live forever. I, if I heard that, I'd be like, yeah, that's fucking tracks. But I do think there's also a detail where, like, to us who have, like, normal lives, we're like, yeah, no, that's so ridiculous that this thing that is, like, a malfunctioning, hallucinating, you know, how to win friends and influence people personality.
Starting point is 00:45:57 like that that could replace us. But them, I think it could kind of because they are just a series of. They are those things. They are just a series of like assumptions about like how that growth is the only thing that matters. And like Uber CEO also has like has tried to replace herself with a AI himself. Himself. Eric, Jan from Zoom
Starting point is 00:46:27 the one to attend meetings he can't make. So I think they're like, I think they're telling on themselves that like they're just like, yeah, like sure, you can replace me.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I don't think, yeah, but that's what becomes clear to us. To them, that's not what they're seeing. They're like, oh shit, they're going to realize
Starting point is 00:46:44 I can, I'm on nothing. It's, to them, it's like another extension of their omnipresence or omnipotence. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Unless money gets involved, they won, I don't care. Unless it got to the point where someone was like, yeah, yeah, Zuck, you, you, AIU in the meeting gave me a 10% share of the company. And like, you AIU agreed to it. Sorry, man. Unless something like that happens, they'll never, you know, three, four years from now, they'll quietly shut it down and be like, oh, sorry, we spent, you know, 20 times the amount of money that's ever been spent researching child cancers into this, like, narcissistic, you know, tilting at windmills project and like, whips. is that right? Yeah. Salman CEO, is that, I don't know Salomon, but that's a company. Rushdie's company. Yeah, Salman Rushdie's big Salman Rushdie's wildly capitalized. It's the outdoor company, I think.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Okay. So their CEO was doing this, and he had an AI clone, and it wound up spouting brain dead hallucinations. And the team is currently working on reducing the chatbots hallucinations. But yeah, it's every one of these models is stuck in the same. you know, like just rattling off shit that like sounds authoritative and is full of hallucinations.
Starting point is 00:48:00 They're like nobody can actually trust. So like what is the value? That's exactly what a CEO does. Right. Yeah. So like slowly telling on themselves. They don't want us to know that, I feel like, you know? Have you guys ever watched?
Starting point is 00:48:12 There was this show called, um, Love of My Life or Made for Love. It was called Made for Love. It was on for two seasons, quickly got canceled. It had the dude my brain is so character actor messed up.
Starting point is 00:48:25 It had the dude who is one of the princes in the Into the Woods live action movie was like a CEO and Christina Maloney from how I met your mother and Broadway shows and blah blah blah. He's like married to her and Ray Romano plays her dad. None of this is ringing about to anyone.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I think probably that's why it was canceled. It's like one of the best depictions of a tech CEO being just completely fully insane and having people around them have to fix everything. thing. The premise is like he tests a brain implant on his wife without telling her.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Oh, geez. But it's a comedy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. And then her and her dad, Ray Romano, try to take down this, like, tech CEO guy. That's great. Sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. The idea of testing one of those on your way. Yeah. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:49:14 All right. Anyways, it seems, an experiment by the Harbor Business Review found that their AI CEO consistently, outperformed humans maximizing profit and growth while minimizing risks. I feel like that's the only positive experiment I've heard of with the use of AI. So I do feel like, yeah, we got to get rid of AI, actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:36 It's false for similar to those of human participants, although it seemed to fail more quickly. You could tell someone like, hey, we removed your child. We have killed and removed your child, and we replaced it with a, a metal box. And we've found that that metal box is actually way cheaper to, it's way easier to have in your house. Like, we say these things as if it's like, the bottom line is the only thing that matters and it's,
Starting point is 00:50:03 yeah. Like, these are like fully insane things that these people, sorry. But I do think we should just replace all CEOs with a, just let's see how it goes. This is my fix for billionaires. If I ever ran for office,
Starting point is 00:50:16 this would be my platform. Anyone with a billion dollars or more net worth goes into a lottery. And once a year, one of those numbers is pulled, and they have to fight a grizzly bear with no weapons. And you can get out of it if you donate enough of your money to get down to $999,000,000, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But if you're a billion and over, you have to fight a bear.
Starting point is 00:50:40 And I think this would actually work. And then if you die, your money just gets redistributed to everybody. It is exactly like reverse hunger games, yes. And so I think what would have to be. happen is if you told like Zuckerberg or Musk or like any of these guys, you can only keep your billion dollars if you fight a bear and win. How many of them do you think would go, well, I can't fight a bear? That's ridiculous. And how many of them would go, I can fucking do it. I'm going to know Jiu-Jitsu. Like, this would actually be a problem for other people, but I actually know
Starting point is 00:51:09 Jiu-Jitsu and I'm pretty well-trained. Down to roll with a grizzly, dude. And the rest of us watch it on TV and the bear tears them apart. And then I think even other billionaires would just be like, ah, he couldn't make it, but I'm going to make it. I'm going to start training now. That's right. Yeah. I like this. I like this. And the advertising would rival that of the Super Bowl would get. Oh, yeah. This Sunday, Elon versus the bear. Yeah. And you're like, go the bear. That bear would be so popular. It's a different bear every time too. Just, you know, I like it being like a mountain, you know, in Game of Thrones. It's like, you're going to go up against the bear. Bear bear.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Yeah. I think we like, there would be a whole media apparatus around, like, there could be an American Idol style thing where you get to, everybody gets to vote on the bear, like choose which bear, you know? Which bear? Yeah. That could be fun. Because there is, like, people do, like, follow individual bears, you know, online. There's, like, a subculture. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:13 There's Bear Week. When the bears emerge from hibernation and people. people, they're like tagged and like you can like follow them and see how they're doing. Oh, that's awesome. Isn't like fat bear week? I think it's like fat bear week is what they call. Oh, yeah, yeah. Actually, I think it's the week before hibernation.
Starting point is 00:52:30 And it's like, look how fat this guy. Yeah, a thousand plus stepping into the ring at 1,000 pounds. Yeah. Yeah, good luck. Good luck. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. There's two golden rules that any man should live by.
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Starting point is 00:53:20 I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe.
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Starting point is 00:54:04 I went and had lunch with him one day And I was like And dad I think I want to really give this a shot I don't know what that means But I just know the groundlings I'm working my way up through And I know it's a place that come Look for up and coming talent
Starting point is 00:54:16 He said if it was based solely on talent I wouldn't worry about you Which is really sweet Yeah He goes but there's so much luck involved And he's like Just give it a shot He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.
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Starting point is 00:56:21 Somebody tell me that. July 2003, Councilman James E. Davis arrives at New York City Hall with a guest. Both men are carrying concealed weapons. And in less than 30 minutes, both of them will be dead. Now everybody in the chambers duct. A shocking public murder. I scream, get down, get down. Those are shots. Those are shots. Get down. A charismatic politician. You know, he just bent the rules all the time. I still have a weapon and I could shoot you. And an outsider with a secret. He alleged he was a victim of blackmail. That may or may not have been political.
Starting point is 00:57:06 It may have been about sex. Listen to Roershack, murder at City Hall on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we do have this Live Nation case, antitrust case to talk about. But really briefly, because I don't just want to skip past the very cool detail that they, that, ICE and the Department of Homeland Security have a memo that they sent to their lawyers about what they should do when they meet you in court. Is there, like, you've certainly got their attention. Is there something that you have, like, figured out that, like, we don't understand about ICE or, like, anything?
Starting point is 00:57:58 Or is it just a matter of you being sick with it in terms of being really good in court? Listen, I mean, there are only so many bad bitches on Earth. And I think Truly, it's a plain demand, right? There are only so many. And I am a bad bitch. And I don't think there's any...
Starting point is 00:58:18 Is that in the memo? Yeah. There's no value... Watch out for him. He is a bad bitch. There's no, like, point in denying that I'm a bad bitch in court. Like, that is what I'm good at.
Starting point is 00:58:32 That's what I do. I bat at everything else. So let me have this one thing. Bad a bitch. Like coffee cups from breaking. Yeah, let me brag about being a. He doesn't understand Iambic pantameter. Let him fuck in the courtroom.
Starting point is 00:58:48 I'm uncultured. I'm in eloquent. Like, I am bald. Like, I'm old as hell on the internet. Like, let me have my stripes. Like, let me have my flowers around court and everything else I can suck at. But I think, like, what that really came down to was like, I've been going to court for 10 years before. ever started making content about it. So I've been a practicing attorney since 2014. I've been a
Starting point is 00:59:13 litigator my entire career. And it was always really quiet work. I liked it. I love going to court. I love litigating. There's nothing more interesting than like a weird legal situation that I can sink my teeth into, especially one where maybe no one else can help or no one else is an expert in that area. So I really like pride myself. I have like a relatively, obscure area of law where I manage criminal cases for immigrants. So it's called M-Crim, and it's immigration law meets criminal law, and it's when a migrant faces deportation because they committed a crime. And you're in two different courtrooms. It's like a very specific practice, and it's really exciting to me because people call me, and I'm like, they're like, I don't know
Starting point is 01:00:02 what to do. Other lawyers call me, and they're like, this is a weird ball of wax. I don't know how to untangle it, and I get to be like, I actually know how to do this. Like, I actually, so it's very satisfying in a way in which I don't get that anywhere else in my life. Like, nowhere else in my life, do I have it all figured out? Except it's like one little corner. So when there was that memo, when I did hear that they threw a source that, you know, I had created a ruckus in a government office somewhere based off this work I was doing.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I was, honestly, my first thought was relief because I was like, thank God. Like, thank God these 10, 12 years in court, I now know that something happened because of it. I either pissed someone off or I did this enough of this work to create an impact. And we don't, I think the reason why people have gotten so excited about it. that video about that story is because that doesn't happen a lot in life. A lot of the times we don't know our impact. We don't see the direct- They don't want you to know.
Starting point is 01:01:13 They didn't put out a statement being like, we're very afraid of Michael Foot. Yeah, that was leaked. It was an internal memo, yeah. Yeah, internal memo. And so to just kind of be indirectly told that what you're doing actually had an impact was important, that that quiet work that, no, I mean, so few people were
Starting point is 01:01:35 doing so few people were there alongside me helping. I had to figure a lot of it out myself. I've got a couple great friends that were always there. It was just so nice. It was so nice to finally be like, that was all those nights staying up late or like crying in the shower because I was exhausted or going to court to represent someone who was telling me to go fuck myself, you know, who hated me, or getting yelled out by a judge or getting screwed over by DHS, just knowing it was all work. it for once. Yeah. God, that's such a nice feeling.
Starting point is 01:02:08 And I don't need anything else after that. Yeah, you're good. You've been paid. I can retire. Yeah. And yeah, I've heard your advice to people about, like, if they are taken by ice, like, just don't sign anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Have the number of somebody who is a citizen that you can call. And is that it? Ask for a lawyer. Ask for a lawyer. Say you want to appear before a judge. Let them know that you have. you have like a friend on the outside who is working on getting you an attorney. If Jack, if you were a migrant, I would want you to give Sophia, it's called your A number.
Starting point is 01:02:45 It is sort of like your social security number if you're a migrant, and it just makes it so much easier for a lawyer to track you down if you are placed into removal proceedings or detained by ICE. people really focus on the fact that we are deporting people without ceremony, without removal proceedings without a day in court. I want to be real that that does happen, but it is not the majority of people. So I think the general public don't see what happens after the van door closes and the person gets detained. I'm on the other side of that van door. Like, they then meet me in court. And I get to start what ends can sometimes be a really long process. where I have a client in detention. I've had clients in detention for years.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Like, we're on appeal, like, all sorts of stuff. So it is important you move quickly, but I would just say, like, I don't want to say don't panic because that's such futile advice. Right. Yeah. So I would suggest that. I also think if you do witness ice detaining someone, if you're not a migrant, this is for the white people listening.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Yeah. Film everything you possibly can. Get names, get badge numbers. Talk to witnesses who are there. Get their name and their phone number. Because, especially as like the white person in the room, you have to use your white privilege to shield the people of color in that space. But lawyers like me need those names.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Those are witnesses that can testify, that can write a declaration that I can submit in court. If I go to court, like empty-handed and I'm like, judge, I don't really know what happened, but you should let them out. It's not a very strong argument. But if I have five written declarations from eyewitnesses of what happened, and I've got their A number, and I'm able to research their background, and their friend gives me a photo of their passport, and I've got everything.
Starting point is 01:04:46 I can put it together in a nice packet. Judge is much more likely to listen to me. So that is really my advice. We do kind of have to be like prepping for trial. And then the other thing is that three years from now, when you want to sue the government for legally detaining you, we have all that evidence. And we can do that in civil court, you know? So that's sort of my quick, fast and dirty advice for general public. That's great advice. And thank you for that important for everybody to hear. Let's talk really briefly about this Ticketmaster, Live Nation antitrust case. A Manhattan federal jury found that Live Nation Ticketmaster really is a harmful monopoly. in an antitrust case that was brought by dozens of U.S. states. Pretty obvious that this is the case,
Starting point is 01:05:32 but some of the damning evidence included one, Live Nation executive's internal messages, which called customers so stupid and bragged, that the company was robbing them blind, comma, baby. We're robbing them blind, baby. Why are they cartoon villains, though? Why is everyone cartoon villains? Why, how did it happen?
Starting point is 01:05:55 So poorly written. I know. I love to imagine them like chomping on a cigar, you know what I mean? That they lit with a $100 bill. Like what? This is insane. It's so true. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Yeah, it is pretty crazy. Yeah, I mean, I'm sick of these like giant corporations screwing everyone over, getting rich. And then they can take into court and they pay out millions, but you only get a check in in the mail for like 37 cents. Right. I'm sick of that shit. I've got a settlement check from Joybird, you know, the furniture makers. Yeah, what happened? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:33 We never have like good information about that because that's not what the media is for. They did me dirty. I'm sitting on their couch like right now. You know what I don't know what happened, but they sent me a thing that was $45. Just vaguely says for the arsenic. I will say a lot of the times it's they mismanaged your data and it got compromised. Like someone has your phone. Oh, $45 is not enough for that. It's not enough.
Starting point is 01:06:57 What am I going to buy with $45 from a couch store? Yeah. Yeah. You can get some eggs. A quarter of a lamp. Like, what are we doing? Oh, it's just for the company. Like, it's just, they give you a $45 credit to Joy Bird.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Wow. That's fucking, amazing. You're toast. You're toast. That's amazing. Someone is using, someone in Eastern Europe is using your Social Security. I am from Eastern Europe.
Starting point is 01:07:22 You know, offensive. My own people scamming me for this? I hate it. Just because I wanted a fucking teal colored couch. I love those sofas though. They are nice. Me too. You know what? You can steal my shit. I want that
Starting point is 01:07:38 sofa. Next they're going to be pivoting into like did you see the all birds. Is that the shoe company? Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. The stock price went up like 300% or something. That's psychotic. This, every, everything in this administration, but just generally, like, I keep saying, like, I feel like we just need to come to terms with the fact that we have a bad operating system. Like, the whole way that everything is organized is just in favor of corporations.
Starting point is 01:08:10 And, you know, they don't have, we don't have the necessary, you know, stops in place to, like, make them see consequences when they do shit like this. It's just like even this case, like the judge will decide the specifics when it comes to remedies and damages, but they're probably not going to break up the companies. They'll probably just like charge them a fine because the DOJ bailed on the case after Trump was reelected. Right. So it's just, I don't know, like what is going to be the final straw? Like people are starting to not accept that shit. I think we're seeing the final straws, right? Like we're seeing the Kimberly Clark factories burning down.
Starting point is 01:08:47 we're seeing people like Luigi do what they do. I think that, I mean, this is a real lawsuit, right? After Luigi allegedly murdered the CEO of United Healthcare, United Healthcare started approving claims faster, and the shareholders last year got together and sued United and said, you approved too many claims. You approved too many claims after the CEO, was murdered. Right. And so by literally creating that lawsuit, the shareholders effectively
Starting point is 01:09:25 admitted that what Luigi did worked for all intents and purposes of Luigi's goal. Right. It actually kind of worked, was kind of what the shareholders were saying. So they started approving more claims faster. So, and that is a fact asserted in their lawsuit. So I think when you say, like, when is what's going to change? I think that presumes that what we're looking for is some sort of systematized change, someone to sort of come down from an administration and say, you know what, we're done with this. It's over.
Starting point is 01:10:03 But I actually think, like, from, I imagine the way the change will happen is it'll probably happen in the opposite direction. Yeah, it's going to come from the bottom up instead of the top down is how I predict. Sure. Someone needs to be like, maybe we build a system where the thing that works the best for people is not to just murder people. Right. And like, yeah, I know. And someone really has to do that work. And is that a politician? I don't know. Is that a legislator? Is it stripping corporations of their rights? I mean, corporations. I think that would be the number one thing that would change so much. As soon as corporations became people, we were fucked. Yeah, yeah. Corporate personhood is very real, and it's gotten us into a lot of trouble. They have more rights than individuals in America. And I think this notion that, and right, the three of us in these opinions are not the majority. Like I think a lot of Americans are like, oh, no, companies are good. We need corporations to give us jobs. They're my friends. There are a lot of people who are like, oh, well, they pay my husband's pension, right? Or they put money into my 401K. like corporations are great.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Like there are a lot of people in this country who think that way. And I think that, you know, the sooner, I think through these lawsuits, through people getting only a $10 check in the mail when all their data got stolen, I think the general population is going to start to come around to this idea more
Starting point is 01:11:37 that maybe corporations aren't good for you. Every single nerd that you ate had arsenic in it. Clearly someone, clearly someone at the nerds factory doesn't give a shit about you and your safety, right? Like, uh,
Starting point is 01:11:51 I just got all this arsenic and we got to get rid of it somehow, you know? Yeah. So I, yeah, I think that's right. Like we, I think we got to the place where it's like, billionaires are bad.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Like everybody's like, yeah, fuck billionaires. But the corporations are the next thing. The, because billionaires don't have, you know, multi-billion dollar advertising budgets.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Yeah. So, So like that's what we need to undo a lot of advertising brainwashing that's been happening. Yeah, I agree. I feel, though, that like there's been a fundamental shift that happened when Trump got elected outside of everything has been that, you know, even when we had presidents that were like fucked up that we hated, you know, like Bush, like fucking Reagan, that piece of shit. You know, we've had bad people, but there was still some weird respect.
Starting point is 01:12:43 or something baked in for the position of president and for, like, leading the country. Like, that was still a concept. And I think that that's been betrayed. And the reason there's no stops for it is I think everybody just literally thought we would always have, like, basic humanity and a basic desire to do, like, good things for the people that, you know, live in your country. And I think that has gone out of the window to such a degree that, like, the money's made them so crazy
Starting point is 01:13:16 that now, like, switching to AI, who do you think is going to pay for any of the stuff that AI makes? You're putting people out of work. How are they going to pay for the shit you're making? Right. And I think, I mean, when I think about AI, remember NFTs?
Starting point is 01:13:32 Mm-hmm. Where the fuck did NFTs go? No one gives a shit about that. And all I heard about it. They're all over here, Michael. I'm sorry to say. He's got a closet full of them. I got some that I can move.
Starting point is 01:13:43 And that, what was that like monkey gorilla, you could like buy it? Beating ape or cool ape. It was like some sort of ape where you buy it and it appreciated in value. The one that Justin Bieber owns, he bought it for like $2.8 million. It's worth $14,000 right now. So like I feel like all the NFT,
Starting point is 01:14:03 people just like switch to AI because NFTs, no one would shut the fuck up about them in 2021. It's true. It's all I heard about. It was a true cult. Yeah. And now, where are they? Where's the Metaverse?
Starting point is 01:14:14 And everyone's talking about AI, and everyone's throwing money at it. I think there's going to be a turning point, right? I mean, AI is like, it's like, everyone talks about AI, like it's incredible. And it's like, do you remember that girl in college who was always talking about her boyfriend back home? Yes. Who was like, oh, he's incredible. Like, just wouldn't shut the fuck up about this guy. Sure.
Starting point is 01:14:40 And then Winter Break came around and he came to visit. And it was just some guy named Matt. It was just like some guy. It's always some guy named Matt. It's always some mid dude. And he like literally would say five words and you'd be like this? This is the guy you've been telling him for months. That is so funny.
Starting point is 01:14:59 You guys are going to love Matt. That's a I. That's a I. Because really, like, how many arguments have we all gotten into with chat GPT? Because it's not giving us what we want. I was trying to make a birthday invitation of my face making out with myself in the style of heated rivalry. And it took me, I'm not kidding. It was like days of me fighting with fucking AI just to get this image created.
Starting point is 01:15:25 It was unreal. I was like, I'm fighting with a robot right now. I tried to make an image that was like off of a famous Barbara Streisand photo. That was you making out with yourself. Yes, of course. No, it was like the famous Barbara Streisand photo where she's like holding her nose. and this motherfucker was like, you can't do that. That's a real person.
Starting point is 01:15:44 I'm like, what's happening right now? I'm like, I'm also a real person. And I want it to be of my face, not, they're like, I'm like, she doesn't own this. What is wrong with you? Anyway, so yeah, I don't use it. No, they kept telling me that I was trying to make revenge porn. And I was like, it's me. Let me fuck myself.
Starting point is 01:16:02 I deserve it. Democrats planning to, this is a quote from, I think it's financial times. Democrats planning to run in November's midterm elections have been advised not to antagonize pro-AI campaign groups that have amassed more than 300 million to fight for the industry's priorities. So it's not coming from them. Yeah. Why not? Antagonize them.
Starting point is 01:16:23 They can't write any of their own slogan. They're going to have to rely on it. What are they going to do? Send you a poorly generated email. That is exactly. Antagonize them. Get them. All right.
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