The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 436 (Best of 6/22/26-6/26/26)

Episode Date: June 28, 2026

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment, laugh stravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Balevi, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are, what you're inquirited? John Heater, Chris Getherd, because I... Was it comma? What's the difference? No, it was, I was trying to see what they worked on together. Because, like, I don't know how to turn it off, but, you know, on Reels, how they have, like, AI summaries at the bottom?

I'm like, I don't think you. Can you turn it on? I don't know. But it said like Chris Getherd was talking about something where he didn't like the person who he was working with was not being very nice to him. And at the bottom it said like Chris Getherd John Heater. And I'm like they didn't even mention that in the video. So is this something that's known online?

And then I looked it up and it was like a sitcom from like 2013. And then I was like, what if AI is just starting beef between people by being? Like, where did it get that from? I had no idea. They say a similar thing happened. There's like a combination of AI hallucination plus like like really misinformed Reddit posts about how like the hand, you know, like Titanic when they're fucking in the car. Yeah.

Like car and then the hand streaks down like the foggy window that that was James Cameron's hand. Like some people's AI summaries were saying that it was his hand and I forget. I think it was like Voltier. That made it like immediately unsexy. Like, why would they do that? It turns out it's a combination of a few different facts. The first being that when Jack is first sketching Kate Winslet, when DeCaprio's sketching.

Oh, that's his hand. That's his hand because he's actually like a decent, like artist. So that was Cameron's hand. It would make sense. Yeah, right. Whereas it does not make sense to have him as a weird extra. No, no, no, no, no. And then, hold on.

I got this. So, like, people were conflating that with like some other thing where, Cameron was walking like a camera crew through like some like movie memorabilia and like the old prop car was there. And he's like and if you look, you can see the handprint there. And he says something about like that's mine. But because he was just saying that he was smearing like a liquid onto the glass to keep the handprint on there. So then like a combination of misunderstanding AI hallucination like started giving people some reason that like the hand in the Titanic car. And that scene was actually James Cameron's.

False. False. That's so weird. Like, I love that AI, that's the epitome of AI giving us more problems than it solves. It's like, now we have to go detective mode to debunk AI shit. That's crazy. Yeah. Look, it's causing more work than it is making things easy for things like movie trivia.

What's something you think is underrated? Water parks. Oh, water parks are great. I love a water park And I particularly like people Who enjoy water parks It's a particular breed of person I think who's willing to be

Walking around barefoot Half-dressed You know, most likely Touching some urine that day Oh yeah Maybe in your mouth Definitely people are peeing in it They are called

Right right They're called They're called They're called They're called Yeah Wait, so you're saying, I like that it's, to me, it's like the same as a person who, like, loves a river, like river. You know, there's like river people. Yeah, I love a river.

River people, just like sort of same brand. I feel like those people just like, I think dirt is gross. So I prefer water park. I'm a water park person. Oh, yeah, you're a water park person. It's not mud ever. I like a water park where I can also get drunk and lose my children. Yeah. I mean, when I was in high school, water parks were, like, quite sexy. Go on. Your face said all. You were like, no. I've never thought of them was sexy in the least bit.

I'm intrigued. What do you mean? Well, because, like, I was in high school and you're, like, going in a bikini and, like, all the guys are working there. And it was just like, and you're there and there. It was just, like, kind of like. Yeah, it was like a bit of a thing. And everyone's always like, it feels like whenever I'm at a water park,

everyone seems very in love. And maybe they shouldn't be. I don't necessarily. Like couples who are doing the water park. They're like maybe not the most glamorous people, but they're always like super touchy feeling in these like rickety wood lines. Yeah. I'm like,

what are we doing? I've never felt like more close to death than like walking up the wooden like staircase. case that goes up to the top of like these water parks from the Jersey Shore that I know have been around for like 30 something years like haven't been touched at all. So maybe it's that thing like that Vancouver Bridge experiment where it's like being like it's that like high intensity scenario that feels like sort of dangerous that allows people to bond deeper. Our bodies confuse fear with horniness because they like both raise our heart levels. And so like that's why people like go on like to scary movies on dates and stuff like that.

It is like a combination. Like, and water parks in particular seem like the, the most like direct combination of like scary thrill ride thing and like everybody's half naked. So I get it now. I get what you're talking about. I went to an indoor water park. Have you guys been?

Wait, what did you say? I went to an indoor water park recently, Great Wolf Lodge. there's like a chain of them across America because like it's like surprisingly affordable to go stay the night at a water like it's a hotel and a water park everyone in the Midwest like knows about this because when I first mentioned they're like

you fucking win the great wolf lodge I fucking love people and it's like a gigantic it feels like a like a like a cruise ship because once you enter everything is in there like the hotel is in there the food is in there an arcade is in there ice cream shop water park wedding chapel

yeah wedding chat whatever you want But like, it was, there were times when you weren't wet, you were like, there was like air conditioning. So I was like, no, fuck. No. It's got to be warm. Yeah, I know. It was kind of fucking me up. Yeah, yeah.

It was fucking me up because like, I mean, it wasn't like super cold, but like you would kind of get in your event and you're like that was fucking freezing and I'm soaking. Yeah, that's wild. Everyone is happy in there. Unlike a rave, like if you go to a rave, you're guaranteed to see or like a big music festival. There's always people crying or couples fighting at a music festival or a concert. No one's doing that at a water park. I haven't seen a lot of fights at a water park. One time I went to raging waters, and you know they have the surf where you can like pretend

surf. Yeah, yeah. And I fell off and then my top came off. And so I stayed under water because I didn't know what to do. So I was like trying to put it on underwater. Like with your head submerged too or you kind of like just head up. No, I was all under. So I was like trying to do it.

And then they turned off the ride. Because they thought you were dead. Yeah. So then all the water went down. Not dead. Just topless. Sorry. Not dead. Just topless.

It was this whole line. Yeah. And I was so humiliated. She hit her head. Rick. Cut it off. Cut it off. She hit her head, man.

Oh, wow. Maybe. Water parts are great. Great underrated. Very valid. You won me by the end. What is something you think is underrated? Couldn't remember if I said this before on the show, but calling an old friend.

You know, instead of texting. to check in someone you haven't talked to in a year, just call them, just say hi. Yeah. See if they pick up and chat. And if they don't, write them off forever. Write them off forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like it's so.

You're dead to me. It's so easy. Text them after that and say you're dead to me. It's so easy to let like relationships fall by the wayside because you get like little glimpses of someone's life on social media. So you kind of feel like, oh, I know what they're up to you. But you haven't really talked to them if it's an old friend, you know? So I don't know, just call them and just say hi and have a 10 minute.

chat, it takes not too much time out of either your day, and it can be rewarding, I think. They will be trying to get off the phone with you right away. Yeah, I know. You gotta get in there. You got to hook them. Everyone, you call people, they're like, yeah, it's, yeah, it's exactly, man, you got me in a bad time. I got to.

I do, like, I do this, they don't like it. It's just, they're like, oh, man, so good to hear from you. All right, well, you know, trying to wrap it up a little bit. So, that's easy. To me, I'm way worse of that in person, like, because a lot of times, like, it's like, I'm high at a grocery store. I was like, Miles? I'm like, fuck.

No. Anyway, great to see you, man. I gotta go. But on the phone, it's, I love, I love a random call. Because, like, I think this was when Mel was on. We talked about this, maybe this week or the end of last week. But it's such like part of our upbringing, just how we grew up. Yeah, yeah, totally.

Endlessly on a phone. Totally. So I think, like, it's almost like we have to remember the old ways sometimes. And it makes them feel appreciated, even if they want to get off immediately, you in Jack's case, but that still makes them feel a little bit of an ego boost. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And, yeah, sometimes they want to get off and then you have a follow-up conversation and it's

great. I do notice, like, when you first start talking, the thing they know about is, like, how's that vacation that you took, like, last home? Yeah, yeah. All they know is, like, what's on social media. Yeah, it's a little bit. So you're always on vacation, I guess. You're like, once last time I posted, sorry.

You saw that those sunglasses, like, with the titties on them? I'm like, I wore those as a joke in a thrift store a few years ago on a vacation. So you've been voting a lot, huh? You're a stickers, huh? Damn, dude. You're a sticker collector. It was fully based on your social media. Crazy.

So I voted stickers. You sold a Michael J. Fox? I was a picture. Yeah, it was a wax museum. It wasn't even here. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Fuck.

What is something you think is overrated? And then this is a companion piece to the underrated, which is everything else you can do on your phone. That's all not good. But I feel like when cell phones first came out, people kind of like criticize the phone aspect of it. And they were like, oh, I can't believe this is a phone

because all this other stuff is awesome. Those other fun stuff. I feel like that was kind of the narrative. But now it's reversed, I think, where the other stuff is taken of our lives. And that all sucks. And maybe the phone is cool again. What about phones?

We're kind of ping ponging a little bit. Yeah. Because I feel like we took the phone thing for granted Because as you said, when we were growing up, that was the way we did everything. And then the new stuff was kind of like, oh, who cares about the phone part? It can do X, Y, Z.

It can do instant messenger too, basically. But then, you know, our lives obviously got totally fucked by all that. And so now it's like, oh, the phone thing is actually weirdly cool. Yeah. Yeah. I was talking with Brian, the editor, and just, we're both thirsting for dumb phones. Yeah, yeah. Like just...

I got that brick thing, but I haven't set it up yet. Oh, really? You know about that? That's the thing that, like, her basically makes. it so you can't use your phone. It basically turns your phone into a dumb phone, and it's a physical thing that you have to tap to undo.

So basically if you leave your house, I don't know, this is an ad for a thing I haven't even used yet, but I did already buy. But you basically, as you leave your house, you tap your phone on the physical thing,

and then while you're out or whatever, your phone cannot do the apps that you lock out. It's just simply cannot. There's no way to bypass it. Right, right, right. And then once you go home, you can tap it the physical thing.

I think it's like, I think the physical form of a smartphone just fucks me up. Yeah, that's true too. Like, And I feel like, I'm like, this thing, bro? Yeah. I'm not going to scroll Reddit on this fucking dumb thing.

I'm like, hello. Yes, thank you. Miles is doing the tiniest phone. Zoolander style. Will Ferrell's a little bit when he's like, how quickly can you have your bags packed for Milan? There, do you guys know about tin cans? No.

It's like a new. With like a string? Yeah. Well, that's where they got the name. Are we third graders right now? But it's a dumb phone. It's a dumb phone. that my kid's school got for each family.

And it's like usually $100, but like each kid gets a dumb phone. And then it's like you put in certain numbers that are like, so it can only like place and receive calls from certain numbers. And it's like other like tin can phones. So like because educators are like, you know, seeing how bad. Yeah, of course. They're like investing in this. And so you, you're, but if your family only has one, you can't call each other, right?

No, no, no, no. You can call other families? Yeah, yeah, you can just call, they can call their friends, which they don't do. Oh, I see. Because they didn't even know about that that was ever a thing. It's not really working. But the idea is every family has one, and then you can call the other families. Yes, exactly.

It's funny. My one friend, like, her. You have one friend. Yeah. Dude. I always have to be specific. That is crazy. I made some mistakes.

Okay. You admit it. You get it. I do have a hand in that. I got to say. Some misplaced words. We're working. I'm glad this person stuck by her side.

But my one friend, her son is like 11. And like all the other kids have phones. And like some of the girls have smartphones. Yeah, have smart phones. And like some of the like he had a birthday and like one of the girls like came up to his mom's like, hey like so and so is a crush on blah blah blah. Like her son. And she's like, can I get his number? And she's like, oh, he doesn't have a phone.

Right. And she's like, oh. Never mind. No, it's like, okay, well, how do I talk to him? She's like, I guess you can, like, text me if you need to get a hold of them. These little girls are, like, texting my friend all the time. They're like, what's he up to? That's funny.

And she's like, girls, this is like not how this ever goes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's like, he will have a phone or something. If he wants, I'll tell him to call you, like, don't just hit me up. That's funny. But that is, yeah, I guess that's the equivalent of, like, girls calling your phone when, like, we were younger, you know? Would you ever panic? Like, you'd call, like, a girl

and, like, their parent would pick up? You'd be like, fuck, dude, I can't do this shit. He's 11-year-old boys keep calling and saying, fuck, and then hanging up the phone. Hang up before you say fuck. We have caller ID now, too, you Kiko. It's my mom's name. I have a close friend who's kid, I know.

I don't have kids, but my friend has, like, a 10 or 11-year-old son. And I just, I saw him the other day at the grocery store, and he was not with his dad. And it was like, and he was just alone. I think his dad was another part. grocery store, but it was funny to be like, oh, hey, and it was like, I'm friends with this 10 year old, but I'm like, oh, I'm friends with this 10 year old, but I'm like, oh, there's a context for this.

I'm like, hey, what's up, man? How are you? Yeah, did you do a compliment? Yeah, yeah. And I was like, it's interesting that I'm friends with this kid, but I mean, we've camped together and stuff. We are friends with his dad, too. But it was just funny.

I got a lot of friends too. So it's like, some kids who are like more precocious just come up and are like, hey, Jack. Yeah, yeah. Talk to me and they're like, like, we're friends. It does feel a little weird. What do they hit you up about? They're just like, when I'm like around.

They just like come up and start talking to me. Okay. And yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm friends with a 10-year-old. No big deal. That's the homie right there. That's the homie. Yeah, yeah, I hit you up later. Yeah, dude, it was a fucking movie.

You're right, bro. Last night was a movie. Specifically the movie if, with John Kaczynski. movie, bro. Good movie, good movie. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Up close and personal.

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And a bit of good news, depending on your perspective, if you're some sort of sicko who likes the Democratic Socialists of America, you might have been excited by the New York, the results of the New York primaries earlier this week. in which Zoran Mamdani's candidates defeated establishment Democratic candidates. And just like, it seems to be like a continuation of the thing that we keep seeing over and over. Just being like, yes, no. Water continues to be wet. People are not feeling the legacy Democrats. People don't like when you juxtapose establishment Democrats with progressives and DSA candidates. Because the difference has become real clear, real quick.

One of the reasons why Karen Bass was like, I want to go against Spencer Pratt in the mayoral election. Yeah, yeah. Not someone to the left of me because then I look even worse. But yeah, Hakeem Jeffries and Zeran went head to head over some of their picks in the primary races that went down Tuesday. And wouldn't you know what, Hakeem lost. And he is now acting like this isn't a moment.

This isn't like something that could be instructive. to the future of the party and their, you know, their potential achievements that they can reach with midterms coming up and beyond, hopefully. This is from the New Republic. It says, quote, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, on the other hand, spent Wednesday trying to downplay the fact that candidates endorsed by Democratic Socialist New York City mayors Aramamem Dani beat the ones Jeffries had endorsed. The mayor and I agree to strongly disagree about some of his endorsements, and he's got work to do in terms of the conversations. that he's going to have with members of Congress moving forward. You're like, speaking of succinct. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So many words.

Yeah, yeah. So you agree to disagree about the endorsements, mainly that you didn't know how to pick a winner. You didn't know how to back the person who actually had the attention of the electorate. Okay. And he's got work to do in terms of the conversations that he's going to have with members.

So he's like, so you got to be nice to the incumbent. That boils down to. He works in the big building. over there. Like you're literally just describing what he does day to day for his work. But also, saying he's got work to do is

in terms of conversations he'll have with people in the building. In terms of the conversations that he's going to have with members of Congress moving forward. Obviously, it can't be happening in the past. So it's just did I hit my word limit?

Did I get my word limit? Do I get paid? Yeah. Did I have? Did I, huh? It's like a weird thing where he's trying to be like, so the first sentence is I'm different. We're different, obviously. Yeah. And then the second one is just he's just trying to like lightly sun him, just a light finger wag to try to be like,

you got a lot of work to do, man. I'm still the boss. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see how people like you over here because I think they're going to be mad at you. Yeah. You fucked up big time, pal. By doing what?

Winning. Winning. That was fucked up the way he won. Stop just bringing up stuff about how, like, the Democratic Party could be doing more. It's like, fuck. That's like that you're talking about me, dude. That's fucked up. Not cool, man.

Now, James Cavill, he is losing his gator ass eating mind right now at the idea of these extremists gaining more ground to Democratic Party. I'm calling for a great schism. A schism. Jizum. Jizzle. This is what I'm calling for. This is what he's. This whole paragraph that you've just said is very heavily influenced by that Australian

T-shirt that we keep talking about. No, no, no. You've talked about gizzer ass eating. You've talked about jizum. I do have to bring it up again. It's an alligator or crockle-dow. If it's in Australia, it's going to be crock and out. It's a crock.

Yeah. It's saying, I'm on me rag mate chucking it in me dump her the way you're kidding I'm on my period yeah

yeah yeah so I don't know I don't know if these people speak Australian miles I said the deal here is just talking out look yes it might seem like I'm stuck on this t-shirt

but I'm saying at an unconscious level so are you because you You said he's not just a gator eating. He's got a gator ass eating. And you said, and you mispronounce schism as jism. All right. You're right. You're right.

You're thinking, it's on, it's on all our minds. And I in real time am not familiar with that shirt or that phrase. But it doesn't take more than the delay that internet lag already has for you to go, on me, rag. Okay. Period. Chuck in. Me, dumper.

Me, dump. Oh, I see what he's trying to communicate. Oh, me, dump. human being. They have a way with words. That's not what this story is about. It's about James Carmel. It's about James Cargall right now.

He went on the Politicon podcast, and he's talking about, this is what he first is. His first thing, I think he's treating the Democrat, like the DSA candidates and like the sort of rise of these progressives to the left of the Democrats as sort of like, like gray scale or some shit from Game of Thrones.

Like it's on the finger now. But then it's going to creep up your whole body. And then you're going to turn into stone. So we got to cut the arm off now. That's what we got to do. That's why he's proposing. It's YouTube, though. So we got to sit through this He-Man ad.

We got some skeletons. Yeah, yeah. It looks like. Just ignore it that. It does look like skeletors about to address the, uh, we must create a schism. Yeah, we need a schizum. Hey, why are you wearing that, Lou?

That New Orleans. Marty Grail. He's wearing a Marty Gras sweatshirt right now, too. Look, he's on brand always with an open suitcase just right behind him wherever he's at. I love how he's a media professional. Anyway, here's James Carville proposing a great schism.

I actually do think it's time for Democrats to talk the S word, schism. I really do. Everybody's always said, no, no, we're a coalition, we're a big tent. And there's some, there's just some shit that I can't be in the same tent. What social? And we talk about what Madami was three for three last night in Manhattan.

My Damme. They call it the Kami corridor. First of all, before I go back to that. Genocide fits in the tent. He's just so, it's just so out to none of these, all these people will never say his name correctly. Just like, what, Cuomo, Cuomo, Mabdaibi. Well, Lee, Cronin's mom, Donnie. And now he got this one, my dad.

Dobby. Well, Joseph Mogabi. I don't know who you, Charles Mogabe, whatever he is. Anyway, Cuddinia's disrespect his name. And then, like we just heard, sorry, let James just you go on. I mean, the street for three last night in Manhattan. They call it a Kami corridor. Do they?

They don't. They never have, in fact, it's usually had a mayor who is Republican, actually. For most of my adult life, it's had Republican mayors. It just seems to be a place where, One very talented candidate has been able to communicate to people what socialism is in a way that you can't get in front of. But however, the Manhattanites famously do call their dumpers the commie corridor. Hey, I'm chucking here. Hey, hey, you're chucking at me dump.

Chuck you back there. Chuck it is just such a fun. Yeah, it's like I'm going to throw a bang into you. And you're like, don't say it like that. Chuck, it hit me, Duffer.

Oh, fuck. All right, sorry. We're talking about serious political. Um, sure.

Okay, he goes on, we'll get a little bit more because he does say, he has to come back to this whole idea of like, there's just some of the things they're talking about it.

They're not full of the Democratic Party. In fact, they don't wish the Democratic Party will, which you're like, yeah, I mean, but for reasons because the party has constituted is,

woefully incapable to govern in this era of end-stage capitalism. So yeah, in that sense, yeah, yeah, yeah. We need a new fighter in the ring. Someone who actually understands what's going on and also can understand what the will of people are and create something that maybe is a little more potent

than merely going. We can gesture things like equality but not really follow through on policy like that. They call it the Kami Corridor. They call it. I don't know if you've been to the Upper West Side. They call that the Kama Corridor. Really? Oh, yeah, all up and down there. Yeah. Crazy, crazy.

So then... The Socialists slant. You'll slide. You'll see. You'll see. Oh, man. All Palestinians. There are no Jewish people in all New York.

So it's just impossible for us to win there. I was by a Marxism Square Garden for the next game. It's crazy. It's crazy, crazy. So yes, here he goes on again about how he just... He's like, I'm not. I can't stand this shit. He's so angry about it.

He's really losing his mind. Yeah. Like he's angrier than he was when Trump won. Yeah. Truly. Because I think he realizes, look, I think it's like,

it's a, it's a dinosaur being like, hey, what's that big rock coming down from the sky? I think the defenders of the status quo, the base tenets of reality as it stands, as it undergoes change, that supersedes party.

They're like, I would prefer reality. Staying how it is, but it kind of changes his tune up, a little bit later in this interview where he's sort of like, we gotta talk about a schism, like he's almost dealing with like a hostage situation. He's like, hey man, and maybe we can make this work for everybody. Like, again, so here's his, he tries to be like,

maybe don't use the word Democrat for Democrat. I don't know, these aren't really solutions. This is again, a senile old man who's scared of the future. Tommy is the leader of it is, you know, you try to insist that you try to insist that people that run into your banner, one is a Democratic socialist and don't use a Democratic Party as your guideline and let's negotiate the terms of a schism here. Maybe we can negotiate the terms of a schism. Some kind of advantageous turns for both of us.

But I'm done. I'm not in that fucking political party. I am totally comfortable in a political party that really is going to throw his hat down like an angry prospector. He was. He really. Michael is not joking. For those listening, he took his. baseball cap off, like his

instinct was to take it off, stomp on it, and then start shooting his guns down at the ground until he starts floating up off the ground. Better afford that. Or like the first white manager who like Jackie Robinson hit a home run off their team. He's like, golly.

Why they let this feels in the lead? I don't understand this. They're throwing them meatballs out there. You call that a fastball? It's good eating. Don't go But that is what, yeah, he just assumes that they're going easy on it. Yeah, yeah. Is how he would be reacting to Jackie Robinson.

So he goes on, now this is where he reveals that what he really sees because I don't, he's not, he's not, unfortunately unforced. He's not dumb enough to be like the things they want are crazy like universal health care or like civil rights. But this is where his neolib Democrat brain leaks the truth out. Here he goes because he says, I'm fine with certain aspects, but this is the part that's real instructive. I am totally comfortable in a political party that spends time questioning the policies of the government of Israel. In fact, I'm enthusiastic about that. I don't want to be in a political party that denies the right of the state of Israel to exist. That's just not, I just can't do that.

I'm sorry. Who is he, who is interviewing him by the way? Sorry, we just got. All right, this is all too. visual, but I will just, okay, I will just say. Okay. So, me, dumper. So, it's my blood.

The crocodile is saying, chuck it. So the chucking it is really the, no, to see what is evidently the future of your party, like the energy, the unbridled energy that is happening, and to say, okay, we need to immediately go to work negotiating the terms of a schism is so we could cover more ground if we split

up like what's insane to me is watching everything about politics and many processes just accelerates to a point of hyperbolic grotesquery of itself, right? So the Democratic Party has gone from we cannot win a thing to

oh no, we're winning. Let's fuck it. How do we How do we make sure we don't win like this? How can we undermine this? Hey, man, vote blue no matter who. I mean, well, that's right. That one. That ain't blue.

Get your eyes tested. That's green or some shit. I don't know what the fuck that is. That ain't a damn fucking party I'm a part of. Yeah, the guy he's, the person who's hosting is a guy named Al Hunt. And Al Hunt, you know, he's like, like fucking a Bloomberg guy. You know, this isn't, this is, you know, he's ultimately everybody's, ultimately that was a conversation between Al, 83 year old Al Hunt and 81 year old James Carville about the future of the fucking, bro, shut the fuck up. You got to the end of the buffet line.

Now, take your ass to the table and go. It must be the kids who are wrong. It has to be. Yeah, yeah. 100% must be. But yeah. So again, genocide, like you were saying. Michael. The tent has to include the killing of Palestinian people.

Right. Okay. Because I'm going to conflate the genocide with a much more tenuous argument about the right of a state to exist, rather than contending with the genocide of it all. He wants that people to be able to question the direction of the Israeli, just not able to do anything about it in any way whatsoever. You can ask questions, but people have been asking questions for decades. For a long. And we don't want those.

They continue to do whatever the fuck they wanted to. The thing with questions is an answer might emerge and then you don't want to act on anything like that. So let's not. So other progressives, you know, obviously are not so cynical. The executive director for data for progress, Ryan O'Connell said, quote, New York City Democratic primaries are a specific thing and that New York DSA has an incredibly strong ground game.

Sure. Zoran is an incredibly popular politician. and it's a very blue area. But I think there's also a lot of things that can be extrapolated nationwide, which we know that to be true because at the end of the day, he's not being like, oh, you got to walk like this so wear a Yankee hat. Only things you do. Like it's like you're talking about shit that affects working people.

Okay. So I get the context of it. But again, the platform has wild appeal, wide appeal. He goes on. He cites their own data or polls that data for progress is done that, quote, found voters who see voters see candidates who don't stand up to the american israel public affairs committee or apac as untrustworthy on other issues and that democratic socialist policies like momdani's have nationwide appeal well when you see victories as large as these and when you grow your

numbers in congress it tends to change parts of the party more broadly and that's why you're seeing the old you know desiccated husk of uh human being and uh james carville being like i don't want anything to do with this shit. That wave looks dangerous. Give me away from that wave. Give me that away. What's that a surfboard? No.

Let me get in a coffin. That's what I want. So yeah, it's just like, it really is mind blowing now that it's that like to your point, Michael, the, the Democrats hate winning thing. You're just purely now just saying outright. No, I don't, we can't win. We're not going to win. Not like, not with this.

And for winning, you have a lot of explaining to do. You got. Yeah. You're going to have to have. That's a very difficult conversations with the losers of our party with all this winning bullshit that you're springing on us last minute. Excuse me, that congressman you ousted, he has kids. Right. How old are they?

48 and 52. Okay. You know what? They work in coal. And you are coming for that too. Where are this kids supposed to get black lungs? Yeah. What are they going to pivot to?

If we go all renewables and shit like that. What are they going to pay for it to? His son just graduated from Columbia and opened a $30 million round of fundraising for his company. Do you have any idea how low that is? Yes. It's a new AI. It's a new AI chat about that can accurately identify a child military target in less than three seconds. No mess-ups this time.

It will accurately know. And he just raised a lot of money. that we got to support the young man. Is there any way that Zoram runs for president? It's like too soon, I'm sure everybody would say. That's one to skip a few, 99, 100 for sure. I'm ready. I'm ready to skip a few.

Well, yeah. If it's a revolution time, sometimes you get surprises. Yeah, yeah, you just got to fucking. And I do think it's, bring him to the front. Whether we ask, I mean, it's definitely global violence, but of course I'm still feeling privileged and insulated in my life chugs along only with random tragedies, striking people who are like friends of friend or whatever, but it feels like regardless we're in an intellectual civil war already. And like, it's interesting to watch in my social media circles,

always people who I think both are of good faith. Like, oh, no, you really mean that you didn't come to troll or try to, who are like, you have to vote blue no matter. People really being like, vote blue no matter who, because of course, the stuff that breaks their heart, concentration camps, ice and stuff. And then people are like, so you don't care what's happening about. It's like, and of course, I laugh and I'm like, you got to expand your mind enough to hold both at once. But I believe all those people are urgently saying that and they mean it. And they're like, yeah. It's like people are, it's like it makes me think of those letters that are like the Civil War to or brother for brother. And it's, we're actually seeing people are like, look, normally we'd

agree, but not that, man. And it's for James Carville. his line is some stupid bullshit, but everyone is finding out where they stand as this schism comes on. No, there are definitely mainstream Democrats who, like, people who just vote and are vote blue no matter who people who are mad and are like, well, you guys are just divisive. And I think we're testing the idea that there might be a larger, a large enough chunk of society now that would prefer to move past a sports-themed political system. Yeah.

Like, are you red? or you blue. You're out for life. I'm actually in dire need. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's maybe discuss it in a more detailed way than that. Yeah. So I'm reaching out.

I have, you know, I've been using chat GPT and Claude to reach out to everybody who says the vote blue no matter who thing. And we're just negotiating terms of a schism. Okay, good. We're just getting pizza sent in. We're just going to negotiate. Get that pentagon pizza track of. But I know people, like I have acquaintances who,

work for well-known Democrats who have done so for a long time and are not progressive, even though like we're in the same age cohort and they've seen the same things and roughly arrived to the same conclusions. And I see for some of those people, too, there's like a rigidity because they felt justified in like, in, like, hitching their wagon to this capital D Democratic party. Yeah. That there's like a weird loyalty that they're, it's like some people, I can see it kind of chipping away where it's like, yeah, this is like this, they, they know it's not working. And other people are just sort of, I think, doubling down to be like, this is just like a blip. It's only going to work in these places because it's really existential for them to be like.

But don't have loyalty to brands, people. Like the second, it doesn't matter how long you've been an Apple person if you don't like iPhones anymore. Switch immediately to something else. If that shit looks cool to you. So, right. Or it's a bit of a hassle, but I'm glad I'm, I'm divesting from certain companies I want to. Like, Gmail I've had my entire life. I think Google is completely evil at this point. So I'm moving to Proton Mail. I'm doing, you know, there's like, you don't have to do stuff just because you're

used to it. Right. Very, very key. Yeah, well, I'm going to double down. I'm going to double down on. I actually like that Apple products cost $500 more today than they did a week ago. That's actually good. Dude, at least, at least Tim Cook's, be honest.

Ironorotically. Like, that's cool. Let's do it to meat. Yeah. And I like meat. It's delicious. I need society to properly value the cost of things so that I can be, so my appetites can be curved appropriately. All right.

All right. That's enough of that. We're going to take a quick break. We're going to come back and talk about that Australian T-shirt. We'll be right there. Knock it off before I chuck it in my dumper. In your own? In your own dumper?

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It's animated, and it's back. It's a great question. Okay. Oh, it might be live action. It could be live action. It's being directed by the guy who made the goosebumps movie. Another scholastic book series, yeah. So I'm assuming live action.

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Thanks for that. Just a position. Guys, Miss Frizzle, real. Miss Frizzle is real. Well, some people did. So there was a, uh, remake of the magic school bus in 2017, starring Kate McKinnon. And people claimed there was anti-Semitic because she,

Ms. Frizzle had been like, kind of given a nose job. Oh. Oh. And, you know, Lily Tomlin was the original voice of Miss Frizzle. Yeah. And so they, like, made her less Jewish in this remake. Interesting.

That's weird. Hmm. She got big blue eyes instead of, like, brown eyes. And she got rid of that spooky red hair. It's blonde now. That's right. Like woven silk. So we'll see.

We'll see what they, what Banks does. But Riley Gaines recently appeared on Katie Miller's podcast, another podcast. another podcast that is... Speak of the devil. Yeah. Wife of Monster podcast. The wife of the monster. Bride of Frankenstein.

My husband, the monster. Which we did not listen to the whole thing because I think that would be physically impossible. But Riley Gaines ended up making headlines. So this is a thing that Katie Miller does where she has people on and then asks them as like a fun icebreaker. the way we do overrated, underrated,

she does, what's your favorite conspiracy theory? So she's stealing from my mama told me. Right. Yeah. But like hers, I feel like is a little bit. She's like,

what's your favorite black conspiracy? Wait, what the fuck? Um, I feel like it's to make it because that is a gateway drug for MAGA. Yeah,

yeah. So to make it like a, sort of like asking someone, what's your fun? What's your favorite little, like fun rom-com. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, what's your, are you a Miranda or are you a Samantha?

Oh, who was it recently? And there's a Chris, like, the energy secretary's wife was like, I believe, I believe the teachers unions are trying to take the children's minds away. And then they just come out with these wild right-winged and seriousness. Yeah. There's an athlete who, what was the one recently, some athlete came on? Oh, yeah, the moon landing. A baseball player was like, I don't, I don't think the moon.

I don't think we were ever landing on. the moon. Elon said we did. So I'm going to trust him on that, but I think there's more to the story. Like, what do you mean? What do you mean? More to the story. But he's like, I think we've been there but not that one time. And it's like, is that. The footage

is fake. Yeah, which is so weird. It's like, what they were there. And it's like, this is the most low stakes. It sucks, man. You're not even denying that people have been on the moon. No, no, absolutely not. It's also so weird that she's like, even though we are in charge of everything, what do you think is really going on? It's like, you are the government.

conspiracy theories have been a gateway drug that helps bring people into the fold of her Nazi Bond villain husband. So she had Riley Gaines on the fourth place swimmer who has created a career by like losing to a trans athlete and being like it's not fair. Right, right. It's like you're middling actually. This isn't the same juxtaposition of like, this person has an unfair advantage and smoking me. the greatest NCAA swimmer of all time. It's like, no, you're mid. Yeah, but you are a D1 swimmer, so we'll give you that.

Congratulations. But you are mid. So asked what a conspiracy theory is that she believes in. She said, like Helen Keller, if I'm being honest with you, did she really exist? Like, did she really exist? I can't wrap my mind around it. Like, you're telling me there's a woman who can't see, she can't hear, but she wrote a book. Oh, I like that.

I like that, Riley. You got, you got something there. She wrote 14 books, by the way. 14, 14, New York City. Okay, I'm team gains. You said 14. I'm teen gains at this point. That's too many. It's bullshit. All right, let me see now. I want to watch this. What's a conspiracy theory that you believe in?

Okay, I'm a pretty horrible conspiracy theorist. Yes. Facts. What does that mean? Horrible at it? Like my whole existence basically is predicated on a conspiracy theory about trans athletes. but anyway, I got one for you. I would say a conspiracy theory I believe in.

Or what about the ones that I don't? How about that? Like Helen Keller. Wait. What? Yeah, she's getting her things mixed up. I don't believe in the conspiracy that she didn't exist. I think that she didn't exist.

I don't believe in the conspiracy that she did exist. Let me invert. Yeah. She's saying, I'll tell you a conspiracy. She's doing. Ellen Keller is a conspiracy theory. She's doing some double negatives here. She's being smart.

Yeah. No, no. Did she really exist? Like, did she really exist? I can't wrap my mind around it. Yeah, she's claiming that she's a conspiracy theory. Right. She's claiming that the existence of Helen Keller herself is a conspiracy theory.

And she doesn't believe in that one. No. Because she's doing some weird jiu-jitsu here. Yeah. There's a woman who can't see, she can't hear, but she wrote a book. I don't know. Katie Miller is even like for the first one. Like I'm like way too naive to believe that actually happened.

Getting what a conspiracy theory is. That's going to be the part that's clipped, by the way. It's going to be like Riley is so stupid and doesn't actually think Helen Keller is real. She has like, she's prescient. Yeah. She's prescient. I just love that. She's like, that's the part that's going to be clipped.

It's like Riley Gaines is so stupid. And it's clipped by Katie Miller's. She's like, yeah, you're fucking right, actually. Because I know what's going to do numbers. It was that weird shit. When I was in college, like the loose change 9-11 conspiracy document. documentary had come out. It was like kind of people were talking about it and stuff.

The truth finally came out. Yeah, exactly. And there was a friend of mine who was like, he was like, you know, I, you know, I've been reading about this 9-11 conspiracy theory shit. And that stuff pisses me off. It makes me so mad because, like, I have friends whose, you know, families died in 9-11. And the idea that people are saying it didn't happen really pisses me off. And I go, oh, do you think the conspiracy is that 9-11 didn't happen? It doesn't happen?

No, no. They are not saying it didn't happen. That shit happened. So you were essentially saying do your research? Yeah, exactly. And he was like, oh, I thought they were saying it didn't happen or something. I was offended. I'm like, no, no, no, no.

They're saying it was an inside job. Yeah, they're questioning aspects of it. But they're definitely, they're definitely, they're not claiming that the buildings did not go out. It'd be funny. He's like, anti-semitism in there.

You tell him that the real, the loose chain stuff. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that. Yeah, building seven was the whole control tower. Yeah, he's all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know that. Amazing.

Yeah. Shout out to him. You want to shout them out by name? I don't even remember. Honestly, I don't even remember. I'm sorry to that man. I'm sorry. But this is, so I thought, this is funnier if she just came up with that on her own.

Right, right, right. She's just like, it's a thing. It's a thing. Wow. Yeah, 2020 TikTok conspiracy theory, you know, pandemic. Everything was bad. People were questioning everything. Yeah. Um, basically users claiming Keller didn't exist.

Uh, and that she was really a fraud. Huh. Some people Oh, she could see And she could see and here She exactly She was like a, you know An old-timey psychic

You know those sisters who were like I can communicate with the dead Through Knox Yeah, yeah It was basically Helen Keller was a glorified Fox sister Carnival trick I've seen this Yeah

Oh yeah she's might watch this shit What's up, see? Straight up mate trying to make her plunge Hey give me that pig skin Yeah Oof I'm so sorry miss Fuck. All right, she's committed.

She's committed. I'll give her that. She's committed to it. This is actually something that goes back to 1892 when she was 11 years old. They were thinking it was fake? People, everybody was like, fake, fake. Was she well known at 11? Yeah, she was famous right away.

So she wrote a story and the thing, people were like that that's actually kind of plagiarized, which it was from a story that she was from a story that she was. she had heard as an eight-year-old and like just, you know, mixed it up in her brain and like kind of remembered it so well that she kind of based a story on it. But people, the person who looked into it was like, yeah, it seems like she kind of remembered some of these things for her story, The Frost Fairies. Um, but she has been in the full blaze of public curiosity too long and been tested by too many scientific men and educational experts to be a successful

deceiver. How did she write? What was that? What was the method? You guys know? I don't know. Was it communicating with her assistant or something? Yeah. Touch and touch? Why are you asking me, dude?

I don't know. I'm just, you don't believe, right? I don't believe she even existed, dude. Yeah, fucking right, dude. No way. Dude. I never thought I say this, but Riley, man,

you're spitting fucking bars for once. Damn. I don't believe anything anymore. So back then, it was just sort of like, people couldn't even wrap their head around this, like people, just generally back then.

not a low. Disability. Back then. Yeah. People still, yeah. I remember, like,

accounts of people doubting their neighbor was blind and, like, trying to prove they weren't blind in an article, like way back before TikTok. There's also an online conspiracy theory

that Stevie Wonder is faking it. Yeah, people love to do that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of fake disabled people, I don't want to give this person any publicity because I don't even remember their name, but an Instagram reel came across my feed the other day, and it was like a kill Tony,

adjacent comedian. Yeah. who's like doing a stand-up act as a deaf and blind person. Jesus Christ. And it's like, and I saw it at first and I was like, oh, is this a deaf and blind comedian? I was like, that's interesting.

But it was, he's totally able-bodied. And he's just making fun of disabled people. Wow. He's a fifth grader in 1994. I know, but it's just like, he's putting this out there and it has a lot of views and likes,

and he put like a thing on YouTube, and I'm like, I can't even imagine doing this on stage, let alone broadcasting this to the world. It's just insane. It's like, that's the level of, of thoughtfulness on that side of the comedy.

because they don't understand irony. Right. And being like foundational to humor. So like, I don't know, people laugh when I do this offensive. Yes, exactly. So what if I just multiply that? Let me just ten X that into a whole fucking special. Yeah.

And he called it Helen Keller, I think. Like he put, is like the Helen Keller special. It's, I mean, I don't want to get this. I don't even know his name. I'll show you guys after. I'm looking at now. It really was like, what the hell? It's me.

It's me. I'm just trying to promote my special. No promo. No promo. By any means necessary. I gotta promote my shit. I gotta get my shit off. That's so fucking terrifying.

But people are into it. People are like, oh, this is funny. It's like, wow, that's crazy. Yeah, and I'm sure for that,

like, it's like the catharsis for people who are just so happy to see their sense of humor get represented in media. And they're like, and I have no brain of my own. And I just,

I don't, I think, because I have no idea how to be a good person. I like when people are offended by shit. So yes. Yeah, yeah.

I'm all in on this album. Okay. One of the key pieces of Stevie Wonder evidence. Like a lot of the Stevie Wonder evidence is like, he can like walk around without bumping into things. That's crazy. Like that guy must be able to see. One of them is in 2019,

former NBA player Shaquille O'Neal shared a tale of wonder recognizing him in an elevator. I was like, dude, do you know how many like noises Shaq must make? Yeah. Also, I mean, we all know Shaq's smell. It's like even any of us. us could our eyes close smell Shaq from a mile away.

It's not hard. Deep friar grease. There's an entire wall that smells like Shaq over there. Yeah. Like sound is not moving around a 7 foot two, 300 pound mass.

He walks in an elevator. And Shaq goes, Hasty eight hours. And he goes, oh, Shaq's like, I just know that. What the fuck? Yeah, because your voice is the deepest fucking thing anyone's fucking heard.

Yeah. And someone who's good with their ears playing music is probably like, I know that voice. No one else could rock the elevator when they walk in like Shaq. Or is his like anecdote is like he walked in. He's like, hello Shaq. He might have just the doors opened and he said, hello, Shaq. But it could be his smell. It could be weird noises that shack makes.

Or he might say that every time an elevator door opens and he finally got it right. It finally paid off. He probably thinks I'm not blind. You should have seen the millions of other elevator patrons who were stupefied by his hello Shack. What? Stevie Wander. God, Stevie Wonder is very blind. All right.

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